If you get contacted telling you that you won something, it's a scam. Lots of people have been getting a notice from Telegram, it's a scam. I had to stop doing give-aways because of this nonsense. Sorry, but nothing I can do about it.
Apple has recruited one of Universal Audio's top executives, leading to excitable talk about the impact that this could have on Logic Pro in 2023. Dave Tremblay has been appointed Senior Manager of Apple's Audio Systems division. ua-cam.com/video/9TyzrAtEK4U/v-deo.html
I have only been watching your videos for a few days now, but I appreciate your candid and educated responses to this field Barry. I also appreciate how you are passionate about helping out those in at all levels with the questions and challenges they face in the Pro Audio world. I am hobbyist myself in London who works a career in the IT Security. And lately I have been asking myself the same questions, why do I buy this and that etc. Finding your channel has been a breath of fresh air, now I know I need to focus on 'needed' tools and also just building experience in using what I have and learning purposes for different tools too (compressors, eq, reverb, advanced mixing processes etc.) So thanks for the humility and the heart to share all this with people
Using an Apollo twin with a Mac Studio M1 Max. I wonder if I can replace all my DSP chains with the M1. A new ARM apollo I'd buy in a heartbeat. Still waiting to upgarde my whole setup
The Apollo is giving me Adobe vibes at this point. I am locked into a deal that seems very hard to get out of, without saying goodbye to a whole lot of money, energy and time I've spent. After the large amount of money I've invested in an x4, and all the plugins I've amassed, I would love to start over with a non-DSP based solution. But I feel like it's too late already to get a reasonable percentage of that money back. When I'm honest with myself, the I/O on the Apollo is not great, and I only have an emotional attachment to a maximum of 3 or 4 UA plugins. But, honestly, I'm a little tired of this constant change, and this setup is what I'll use for the foreseeable future. In every aspect of tech (cameras, computers, audio stuff), I long for the old days where an investment wasn't considered obsolete a few short years after making it.
It’s not obsolete. There’s just always new technologies and options for you. I totally agree though how UA has got us sucked into their ecosystem and invested too far to back out.
Did you get money back from your work with the device? Once you get a certain return on investment you can just move on and sell it. I know engineers on frozen systems from 2012 that put out incredible albums.
Thanks for the video Barry. In case anyone is on the fence, I was an Apollo x8p user for the last 4 years. Loved the machine. But...with the new Mac computers out there, I realized what Barry has been saying for several months now (see his previous videos on how many tracks it takes to crash one of the new M1 chips) that DSP is beginning to show its age. So, I put it up for sale at Christmas time, sold it, and grabbed the RME Baby Face Pro. Most of that decision was based on the need to have a more portable unit (I work at multiple studios and to take the whole rack unit around was a pain). I'm blown away by the RME. I've never really considered myself an audiophile. Most of the UA-cam videos that go back and forth between how great a plugin sounds, don't really sound that different to my ears. But with this unit, I can tell a major difference in the clarity of the audio. Feels like night and day. The RME is perfect for portability too. I actually have a lot of projects I've tracked and mixed in LUNA (which I really love) so wanted to stay in the UAD world too. Got a Twin Quad first to try and meet the portability need, but it felt so bulky compared to the RME and the sound quality was just not the same. Just like some of the other users here, I saw the deal with the free Townsend mic, so actually got a heavily discounted Apollo x6 with a free Townsend also so that I keep some of my LUNA functionality. At the end of the day, I'm having to move away from LUNA for new projects, but having an M1 macbook pro paired with the RME, I have had 0 issues. Even with my x8p, I'd "run out of resources" with a heavy mix. So far, I've not had any issues with the new setup. Thanks for the videos to encourage me to take the jump Barry.
Andrew, I'm now in your use case camp. after seeing Barry's vid on DSP. I just looked up the Baby face and it's similarly priced to an Apollo Twin X DUO. (I have a Mac Studio M1 Max). The only downside I see to not buy a pre or post NAMM Apollo, is I can't use the Console software to track in my LX mic signals. What's the fix for that - anyone? Thanks so much. Lost in gear acquisition land, and I can even make a track yet, lol (trying to future proof).
@@Subjective_JoshNelson I am able to record my Sphere through my Baby Face. I use the native plugin from Townsend (the original maker of the mic) and it will work in any DAW. So, I put it on the channel strip as a regular plugin and it works great. Honestly I feel like it sounds better this way. I can hear a more pronounced difference in the mic models. The mic doesn't HAVE to run through Console. Of course any of the Putnam or OceanWay collections are UAD only and they will not work this way. Good thing is, the Townsend was free (or at least was when I got it). RME uses a console like program called TotalMix. I was scared of it because I had read how complicated it was. For me, it was easy to set up (at least to get an initial recording done). The hard stuff comes when you start exploring the vast capabilities the program offers you. The functionality of it is unbelievable. I can't wait to dive into that more (probably after Barry does the tutorial video he promised us on it 😀). Honestly, the only think I've missed is LUNA. I really loved tracking and mixing in that. My first two studios were analogue, and I just feel more comfortable with that "process". LUNA gave me that feel, and I got a ton of complements on my mixes in that versus any of the other DAWs I've tried. Hopefully they will come out with a non apollo required version (yeah right 😀)
I just bought the X8 2 weeks ago as the deal was it came with a free Townsend L22. The free mic is what did it for me. I went from an Apollo twin (single core) that I had for 6 years so I'm totally happy with the upgrade. Im a noob in the studio and this channel has helped me out soooo much. thank you
@@snoopywalker1881 they purchased Townsend 18 months ago and they’re trying to get rid of those mics so their new mics are the only ones available. Also yes, you can assume that which I also did.
@@willieelliott352 it’s all about budget. What can you afford without regretting the purchase. Also what do you need? I went with x8 because I had the cash. I didn’t need that much but I also have plans in the next few years to grow my studio so it was a good choice. The x8p is also a great machine (2 more preamps).
Benny thanks so much for the reply Ihave a Digi 03 With a X mod, it sounds great, I was just thinking of when I do switch over because it's A Firewire Interface and I want to up grade to a Thunderbolt, I Have the Octo, was just thinking of get the x6 or x8, especially when you said the Mic deal,have a great day, thanks again
have new M3 Max MacBook Pro, loaded. If the advice now is instead of the aging Apollo's - to let the horsepower of the computer do the real work of DSP thats fine, but what non DSP interface do you recommend? Any comments much appreciated...
i cant solve the pops and distortion form the UAD amps... they take all CPU. And its not a computer problem cause its the only plugin that does it. i have 32 gb of RAM . and an i7
I just found out about that a Super Thanks even existed, so I'm sorry its take long to respond, I had no idea you had done this. Thank you so much, I truly appreciate the support!
My setup currently is an Audient id14 with an audio technica. for my 3-4 years of production i always thought these were enough although I have Peers that tell me i should upgrade to an Apollo and get a new mic. I know this isn't the topic of the video but what would you guys say would be best to do. get an Apollo or try out a shure microphone?
which audio interface can you recommend me? the Focusrite Clarett+ 8pre or the Apollo X8 I'm mainly concerned with low latency and low noise with good sound.
I just bought the clarett 8 pre I’m packing it back up today. For mic input I had to turn the gain up almost 90% times get usable signal I thought something was wrong after hours of searching I found multiple people saying this.
Cool thing about this is that if a person does not have a lot of money, the aging technology is getting better. May be a good idea to compare new price points and features of hardware with used. You might find that used Apollo gear could be better than new low-end gear, particularly if you have a less powerful computer and no funds to update.
I can't imagine UA, or anybody, coming out with an interface that will cause me to abandon my Apollos. They give me everything I could possibly hope for -- including easy I/O for mixing with outboard gear!
I think the biggest advice I can give anybody, if the gear you’re using does what you needed it to do, and you should not consider upgrading to anything else until it can no longer do what you needed to do.
Seems like the tascam model 12 seems like it covers way more. I know it's not an audio interface alone but it seems like that and much more. Am I wrong?
True, Adeles, Last single "Hello" was recorded in the box using the Apollo twin 2and generation. It was mixed in the box, mastered outside.The original DIGI 002 costed 1200.00. The d/a coverters were not near as good a U/A or even focusrite mid level pres. The Killers 1st album that got them on the radio was recorded on a digi 001, even worse D to A Converters, poor sounding mic pres. Great art will supersede any equipment.
@@BarryJohns Why are you always so bitter about UA? Its absurd. They make amazing products. Period. You have definitely fallen far in my estimation with 1. these ridiculously biased misinformation videos that you publish about UA and 2. your need to pretend like you are the Nostrodamus of audio, which nobody wants or needs. Hang it up, its just sad.
@@alexanderstuartpetty485 Didn't watch this video or any of the others, you are judging by a thumbnail. This video is actually supportive of UA. Go figure......
I'm already with apollo for years. Got the x8 and x16 for my desktop in the studio and they've been amazing. Thinking of buying an x4 now, more for "on the road" purposes. I travel a lot and it would give me the possibility to use my usual apollo setup in a more portable way with my laptop. But this video kind of gave me some doubts if that's the right way to go, or if it would be better to wait for their new machines. What do you think?
just switched to a X4 and V8 Apollo setup. Mainly got it for tracking and overall workflow. Both were purchased used and the transfer was simple and fast. this setup should last me a very long time.
I'm very new here, but I just wanted to say I hope you have a podcast. I could really keep your video playing and work in the background without any distractions. Your voice is just amazing for podcasts!
I bought an appollo twin x 8 couldn't use it fully with my iMac computer being dated so I bought a Mac book and it cannot recognize appollo , tried to use advice from support nothing what should I do with this user unfriendly appollo?$1000 bucks wasted.
I was getting ready to fight with the title of your video lol. But I agree with all of what you say. I did just pull the trigger on a an Apollo x8p Heritage interface and can't wait to dig in to it. I got some extra plugs like the Capitol Mastering compressor, tape delay, Lexicon 224 reverb, rotary speaker and a couple of others. My last interface was the Tascam US1800, so you can just imagine a whole new world that opens up to me with this new interface. I've read great things about the Behringer ADA8200, which would give you an extra 8 mic inputs that can be routed out via ADAT light pipe to the x8p. The converters are great and the unit is $229 street price. Not a bad investment for a modest home studio. Thanks for this video. We're about the same age and have seen a ton of change in the DAW interface recording world.
As much as I loved my plug-in set brought by my UAD-2 Quad PCIe, I honestly feel burned at the same time since UA refused to support it properly on systems with Ryzen processors. So upon upgrading my system, immediately half of my kit suddenly became unusable! It was at that point I realized that I couldn't rely on UA (or any one proprietary platform) anymore since none of their stuff was native (thank God for Plug-in Alliance). Honestly I should have diversified sooner. The practice in redoing my kit gives my plugin choice more focus. I'm actually in the process of removing bloat plug-ins and sorting everything that makes things useful and meaningful to me. That said, still, it's still a nice knife in the stomach whenever I think I no longer have access to $1400 worth of plug-ins. I hope that UA in the future does add native access to their legacy packages/plug-ins, but until that happens, I'm staying away. ... Also HEY from a guy also rocking with RME!
I want to buy a Apollo I'm on windows.I was just wondering why The Apollo twin USB interface..... Why they didn't upgrade the USB version and all the other versions are thunderbolt.
Barry I got my first uad product 3yr or so ago i got a apollo twin and have added on plugins also i think i can run max around 10-15 depending on witch ones Im running. The spark plugins are great but if u have no internet your shit out of luck (no cool). Im on the fence where Im headed in the future. I built a offline setup and Now all these companies are making it where u need internet to run there products.
@@ScantlessBeatz It’s very trendy to bash the iLok dongle, I personally have zero problems with it. I have a desktop so I’m not moving around with the dongle so no worries that I might lose the dongle. It’s plugged in and stays that way. It’s super convenient when upgrading from one macOS to another or moving to a fresh installation. You don’t have to manually authorize all your plugins, as long as the dongle is plugged in you’re good to go. Sometimes I wish ALL my third party plugins were authorized to my iLok dongle.
@@drvoodoo3073 Ya I never had a problem with a phyiscal ilok I just did not want to pay for one when I had a digital ilock but did not realize some plugins need internet to verify. I own other plugins on my ilock and i dont need internet for them the Uad spark plugins surprised me when my internet was accidentally unplugged one day and they didn't work. I have a laptop protable set up cus I dj & do remote recording session like people will pay me to go to their house and record them. A laptop,mic,apollo is basically all I need to remotely record and Im not using a $200 mic I have a Neumann mic.
Know I have more studio gear then that Im just saying a mic laptop and apollo interface is the best option for me cus myself and my clients can hear the processing in real time from autotune,reverb or anything put on the vocal chain. Thats why I got a apollo in the first place cause it gives me basically no latency and I can print in real time what ever is on my vocal chain. Now I do need to get a apollo 8x in the future maybe.
Barry ayuda! Estoy por elegir entre un RME ufx+ en $2300 o por una apollo quad x8p EN $2200 tengo un PROPHET 6 y un TR-8S. Quiero poder sacar el provecho. mi primer placa seria y es entre esta dos. Es todo mi dinero ayuda. Cual opinas ?
Barry this is a good video and makes sense but you said you "stake your reputation" on a new Apollo for NAMM which has been and gone ... and UA are silent. How about a follow up?
it'll probably take more than this to shatter @@BarryJohns! To maybe add to your argument the Apollo x4 is the lowest price it has ever been while the rest of the Apollo's aren't which may suggest that is the targeted replacement they are running out. My interest in Apollo is definitely driven by Unison preamps and not DSP capability. I don't have external preamps and I'm replacing a 10 year old Focusrite Saffire Liquid 56 for my project studio. The 56 has a basic version of Unison with Liquid selectable preamps. That's why the Apollo was of more interest than an alternative audio interface like an Audient where I get a great - but non-variable - preamp. As per one of your videos I need great preamps for vocals and acoustic guitar and I like that Unison provides Neumann and API preamps amongst others. Now I'm unsure as to how to replace my aged Focusrite audio interface ....
I've been using a Tascam US1800 on a Windows 8 ten year old computer for the last decade. Surprisingly it still works great with very little latency, but I have been looking into a complete upgrade (New computer, new interface) for a while mainly because the tech has improved so much from when I started out and I would like something with a superior AD/DA converter and modern DSP plugin system. I've been hesitant because getting into something new with the ability to record 16 or more tracks at once would cost thousands of dollars. If and when I do get a new setup I want it to allow me to use my collection of outboard preamps and something that will last me for years. I've been looking at the Apollo x8, the older Apollo quad 8, Steinberg AXR4T or a Motu interface. What would you recommend?
hey Barry, question(s) 1, is there an alternative to the tube tech plugin? new to the system and my 14 day trail is coming up, when first got it I got the 6 for 400 deal and I didn't know about the tube tech, is there even away to exchange one of my plugins for it? purchased middle of jan... and from what I hear the deals only come out twice a year, and im recording hip hop daily, non of that drake singing crap like nwa, ice t, dr Dre sound if that gives you an idea... thanks
I just wanna write and record music. I’m a one man band aka keyboard player. I just bought a Mac Studio and love Logic Pro X. I have used a mbox m2 mini for over a decade and other than the hissing it gives you if you turn your gain up any, it does everything I need which is…MIDI, usb to computer, mic inputs,…. What would you recommend me get to up grade away from the hissing while keeping everything else? Thanks for all you do!
Why do you think UA would release a new Apollo based around being able to use plugins natively? Like we couldn't already do that with the existing Apollo now
You could only be able to do that in the last few months since Spark was released. Im suggesting we will see a new type of DSP that allows seamless switching between native and DSP. Who knows if I’m right, I’ve been half right so far, but we will have to see what happens at NAMM. They are defiantly trying to get rid of existing Apollo units as they keep continuing the sale. This hasn’t happened to this degree before.
@BarryJohns I live in Fort Wayne next to the sweetwater HQ and last week i bought an open box apollo X8 for $2,275 out the door. If they release a new one right after my 30days is up I'll be so upset lol
A few years ago I started investing in hardware, currently I have 3 full racks of equipment and I lack space for more devices that have already been bought. DSP uad lies in the garage because I didn't even want to connect to a new computer, I never buy equipment from manufacturers who abandon support. That's why I have and use RME and MYTEK adda. I heard that UA has abandoned to support Apollo with Firewire.....is it true ?
I got an x8p about 2 years ago. It was a much needed upgrade at the time and did transform my recordings by tracking through their dsp powered plugins. Super curious about the new interfaces coming out, though it'll be a long time before I get something new as I bought the Apollo for the long haul. I'll upgrade my computer long before that.
Thanks man, I’m going to wait to buy anything at this point. When I grabbed the Antelope Audio Discrete 4, no more than 31 days later they came out with the synergy core processing. They would not let me exchange or upgrade at all. I even had series issues with connectivity to my computer. It left a mark with me where I vouched to never buy another Antelope Audio interface again. But either way, almost 4 years later, I’m on the look again. Uggggggg
Hi Barry I realise this question is on the bottom end of the spectrum but I’m urgently looking for an audio interface that gives me professional or at least semi professional recordings. Will the Apollo Solo do the job or do I have to get the Twin. Would appreciate any insight. Thanks.
I’ve gotten rid of most of my outboard gear. Recently added a 2nd X8P that came with the Sphere L22. I love the versatility of the unison Pres. Bang for the buck $3300 pull out the $1500 for the included L22 and I added 8 mic Pres for under $250 each. I understand tech always move forward but I’m super happy having 20 unison mic Pres, enough DSP to run a 1073 and Fairchild on every channel or an API and 1176 for tracking. UADX allows me spreed out my mix across the Apollos and M1 Mac mini. Using Luna. I’m very happy where I am and if UA puts something out that completely blows away my current system. That would be great for everyone as I really don’t have any technical reasons I can’t make a great album.
I was late on the x8 l22 sale :( i am very new and only learned about the l22 about 2 weeks ago. I quickly got myself an l22 because I know when theyre sold out, only the new ones are available
I use studio one and reaper on my five year old pc with a cheap ssl interface and everything just runs super smooth. Never ever had any problems. All the uad native plugins run fine. I was on the fence to buy an Apollo quad or x6 as I plan to get a little bit of analog stuff in the future, but now I may be better looking into other interfaces.. the new uad interfaces you told us all were around the corner are still not available.. so what to go for? RME?
You are right. This stuff changing so fast. And there are so many cheaper options on the market. I just purchased the Apolo X4, in a bundle with a Sphere LX microphone. Then they added tons of plugins also. So I’m waiting to see if what you say happens- but it would be nice to see new hardware Apollos at a cheaper price.
Barry, what is your take on the just announced Native bundled plug-in sale promo? Should one jump on it now, due to the heavy discounting going on. Or, will one regret buying, say the Diamond bundle at $699 because post NAMM they will have updated them. (Just looking for your speculative opinion; nothing I would hold you too : ) ) Also, I'm not clear if I buy the Native bundle do I get the DSP versions, too. - at no extra charge?
I give up on UAD when FireWire was not supported by the newer machines. What am I supposed to do with my old FireWire satellite card? No one wants to buy it. Of the plug-ins I did buy. I wish they would make them native already. Charging $24 for a subscription on spark for very little content. I can get by with the plug-ins I have.
Hi Barry, great video, 1 question: I have a Fireface UCX and I barely record audio here, and when it happens (vocal or guitar) is only 1 channel at a time. My main recording is VSTs synths via USB midi keyboard (House/Techno) music producer here. My projects are always 24bit/48khz sample rate / 256 buffer size. Round Trip Latency on RME are one of the best in terms of those values bit/sample/buffer I get arround 13ms and if I go 128buffer size I get arround 7ms. I saw some tests that shows Apollo Round Trip Latency 13.4ms at 128 buffer size, meaning poor performance (almost half of the performance of RME). But I didnt test my self. The whole point here is that a friend of mine, wants to buy my RME cuz he needs more I/Os and he wants to exchange his apollo twin mkii Quad + old mac mini 2012 + Behringer Xenyx 2442. I would keep his Apollo with me and sell the mac and the mixer. Im afraid that maybe is not a good deal. Could you give your opinion?
Mr barry which interface do you recommend of a professional interface im new starting and i dont want to buy another one and another one. I just want one can grow with me sir. If you have choice please let me no sir. Im new to you and building a home studio sir. Have a great day sir
I am digging Luna with the API and Tape extensions. The workflow is really well thought out making it more of a console than a DAW workflow. I am looking at upgrading to the Antelope Orion Studio from my Discrete 8 Synergy core. As far as Antelope goes, when I have had issues, they have been fixed quickly with their support team. I guess I am wondering if there is an appreciable difference between Unison and just a good quality AD interface. Not that I have a budget for the Apollo channel count I would need...
Not exactly sure what more we we can expect from the current crop of DAWS and interfaces...if there's something you can't do in this day and age it's most likely user error. At this point people should focus on upgrading their singing, rapping, songwriting, instrumentation or production skills...which all seem to take a dive whenever the next "essential" DAW feature or plugin fixes your mistakes with one click and eliminates the need/opportunity to learn how, and more importantly, why and when to do something.
I love your honest appraisals and great information! I've had a lot of issues with my antelope D 4 synergy core. I've had to download drivers many times. Sometimes the headphones work, most the time not. I can't just sit down and record...there's usually always some issue or update or something that gets in the way and I wind up spending all my allotted time fixing the problem getting ready to record, rather than actually recording! And I spent 1100 bucks on it. I had a much, much easier time recording and got way more done when I used a Yamaha 8 track digital/analog unit!
RME really is the GOAT. They were among the first to have updated driver for the RME 800 with the M1max. That interface is like 16+ years old, and it’s still GREAT.
This is a huge stretch, but a control surface version of the Apollo with full control of console and LUNA, 16 unison enabled preamps, great A/D D/A converters, automation (motorized faders) and parameters, and also a ton of SHARC processors for even more DSP along with the ability to use UAD plugins without LUNA or DSP would definitely be game changing. Still I'm happy with my Apollo X8P and Octo-Satilite and probably wouldn't sell it even if I did jump on any new Apollo, especially if they continue to work together in the same ecosystem as they do now.
I use Metric Halo 2882 and LIO 8. I have had the 2882 for 20 years. The company has had some upgrades and both units sound amazing / amazing features / amazing quality / great support. I would love you to do a review on Metric Halo. Very underrated.
I have a video on my channel regarding how I process my voice for the channel as well as talk about the mic I use. How I Process My Voice for Videos ua-cam.com/video/1v7Ealv9Jzs/v-deo.html
Yeah I've been looking into a new interface. I been a beginner bought my studio equipment and stuff this last year around May and I bought a Scarlet Focusrite 2i2 and it been working good but my mentor that taught me to make beats and produce told me in time get you a better interface..Ive been looking into the Apollo. Looks like something he has but should I wait to get the Apollo like you said because you say they will come out with something new. Give me some feed back. Thankyou
I'd hold onto your 2i2 for now. If improving your mixes is the main priority, get some good open back headphones. If you already have good headphones and monitors, invest in some decent acoustic treatment (not foam) for your room.
i never bought an apollo but i dreamed of buying one, i have an audient id4 just to work remotely but now im building a studio with a friend and i was gonna buy the latest apollo if i had the money so thank you, ill wait and see what happens this year
Hi Barry, love your videos. I bought a UA X8P a little over a year ago despite your advice and it works quite wel,l although it was overpriced. The deciding factor for me was that it allows you to track with plugins….Im not tracking with compression or EQ but being able to take advantage of mic pre modules when tracking is a real plus. Having 8 channels of Telefunken V76 or similar is unheard of for me. Am I missing something? Is there a way to do that with RME for example? And, do you know if UAD Console is compatible with Reaper? Thanks for all you do!
RME still have a different focus, decent card, not better than UAD but not worse. For tracking, preamps and UAD plugins in that price range is inevitable, except you have eg. 8x 1073/1084/88RLB/etc outboard pre connected to eg. a Merging card.
UAD is running a massive sale right now on all hardware products.. until March 31st.. which might also be a sign of things to come. I’m thinking that the old interfaces might still be compatible with whatever they’re planning.. if they allow connectivity to the older interfaces from the next generation.. people would be fine. Also they could just make an option of using DSP or RAM. Because i got like 64G of RAM on my Mac UAD setup.. if apollo could properly access that additional memory i’m game.
The alternative to DSP is more like CPU than RAM. Having a lot of memory isn’t gonna make your computer process the plugins any faster. The CPU processes the audio. We have no clue what UA’s gonna do though. I think whatchu meant to say was that they should give you the option to run their plugins either DSP or native. They just started rolling out the native versions of their plugins. But a setting or switch to change between native and DSP would make more sense imo.
I have Apollo Twin Thunderbolt and I love it. The sound with my EVE SC305 monitors and Adam Sub8 is amazing, and at this point I don't need anything else. There are UAD plugins I cannot work without, and there are plugins that I basically lost money and don't use them. I don't like the subscription model but, I am very curious what UAD will come up with next.
Love your insight Barry, I've been holing out on a computer upgrade as well as Audio Interface which I was thinking of a RME or Apollo, just that RME is firewire an I want to go to Thunderbolt.
Thank you for the good video .In so far as converter quality .As the issue of age . In that you have more wisdom for song writing material , and life experience .What about the converters that are attached to our heads ? The ability to hear the extra best quality ? Not totally lost but a perspective .
I've had my Apollo for almost 8 years now and was thinking of getting a new Apollo to add I/O to my system. Now that they will probably release new versions, I am waiting to see what the new ones are and whether they can be linked to my current Apollo. I would be disappointed if UA didn't update their hardware periodically.
I hope you're planning on an update video now that thet just released their new versions. might be called "AS I WAS SAYING... LOL" or wonder if they changed your mind.
good video Barry, speaking of antelope audio I owned Zen go interface for 3 years I sold it yesterday ,not worth the money ,I bought plugins then I found that after month they put the same plugins on free with pack, plus on that plugins behavior wired the needles not moving ,I when I try to post that subject in they community group I got banned😯😯?? I going for the new audient ID24
I think we're looking at 1) new ARM-based Apollo's, and 2) a new Ox Box (apparently rumors of a pedal version). I think there are a few clues as to why the new Apollo's will be ARM-based, namely, Apple silicon support already existing for the UADx plugins and also the UAFX pedals running on ARM-processors. That also means that the UAFX may eventually get ported to this new UAD-ARM/UADx platform. I also fully expect the ability to toggle the UADx plugins between the DSP and native On-Demand.
If you get contacted telling you that you won something, it's a scam. Lots of people have been getting a notice from Telegram, it's a scam. I had to stop doing give-aways because of this nonsense. Sorry, but nothing I can do about it.
Hi Barry! Do you think the new interfaces from UA will come with improved converters?
Np sir
There really are some piece of shit humans out there.
in my opinion, at this point Apple should buy Universal Audio, and put a M2 Max inside their Apollo line up. Now that would be a Monster.
Great idea, & change Luna Daw to a more ‘Luna Pro’….
Apple has recruited one of Universal Audio's top executives, leading to excitable talk about the impact that this could have on Logic Pro in 2023. Dave Tremblay has been appointed Senior Manager of Apple's Audio Systems division.
ua-cam.com/video/9TyzrAtEK4U/v-deo.html
Yes, and prohibit the cards to be used on Windows.
As long as Apple avoids any subscription service I’m good w that lol
Holy shit that would be crazy
I have only been watching your videos for a few days now, but I appreciate your candid and educated responses to this field Barry. I also appreciate how you are passionate about helping out those in at all levels with the questions and challenges they face in the Pro Audio world. I am hobbyist myself in London who works a career in the IT Security. And lately I have been asking myself the same questions, why do I buy this and that etc. Finding your channel has been a breath of fresh air, now I know I need to focus on 'needed' tools and also just building experience in using what I have and learning purposes for different tools too (compressors, eq, reverb, advanced mixing processes etc.) So thanks for the humility and the heart to share all this with people
Using an Apollo twin with a Mac Studio M1 Max. I wonder if I can replace all my DSP chains with the M1. A new ARM apollo I'd buy in a heartbeat.
Still waiting to upgarde my whole setup
The Apollo is giving me Adobe vibes at this point. I am locked into a deal that seems very hard to get out of, without saying goodbye to a whole lot of money, energy and time I've spent. After the large amount of money I've invested in an x4, and all the plugins I've amassed, I would love to start over with a non-DSP based solution. But I feel like it's too late already to get a reasonable percentage of that money back. When I'm honest with myself, the I/O on the Apollo is not great, and I only have an emotional attachment to a maximum of 3 or 4 UA plugins. But, honestly, I'm a little tired of this constant change, and this setup is what I'll use for the foreseeable future. In every aspect of tech (cameras, computers, audio stuff), I long for the old days where an investment wasn't considered obsolete a few short years after making it.
It’s not obsolete. There’s just always new technologies and options for you. I totally agree though how UA has got us sucked into their ecosystem and invested too far to back out.
Mac Vibes, I would say....
Did you get money back from your work with the device? Once you get a certain return on investment you can just move on and sell it. I know engineers on frozen systems from 2012 that put out incredible albums.
Aren’t the majority of UAD2 plugins also native? You can still use your plugins without the interface now
@@Morpholigical Probably only 30% of them are uad2
I couldn't remember the name of your channel so I just typed in Universal Audio sucks and you were the first search result. 🤣🤣🤣
It's been 19 month since this video, and UA haven't released anything.
So, should I buy an Apollo today?
haha i guess his reputation sucks
They released next gen APOLLO Series in Oct 2024
@@Hardik_Pdefinitely did I'm just starting out which one would you recommend
@@Hardik_Pwhat gen is that?
Thanks for the video Barry. In case anyone is on the fence, I was an Apollo x8p user for the last 4 years. Loved the machine. But...with the new Mac computers out there, I realized what Barry has been saying for several months now (see his previous videos on how many tracks it takes to crash one of the new M1 chips) that DSP is beginning to show its age. So, I put it up for sale at Christmas time, sold it, and grabbed the RME Baby Face Pro. Most of that decision was based on the need to have a more portable unit (I work at multiple studios and to take the whole rack unit around was a pain). I'm blown away by the RME. I've never really considered myself an audiophile. Most of the UA-cam videos that go back and forth between how great a plugin sounds, don't really sound that different to my ears. But with this unit, I can tell a major difference in the clarity of the audio. Feels like night and day. The RME is perfect for portability too. I actually have a lot of projects I've tracked and mixed in LUNA (which I really love) so wanted to stay in the UAD world too. Got a Twin Quad first to try and meet the portability need, but it felt so bulky compared to the RME and the sound quality was just not the same. Just like some of the other users here, I saw the deal with the free Townsend mic, so actually got a heavily discounted Apollo x6 with a free Townsend also so that I keep some of my LUNA functionality. At the end of the day, I'm having to move away from LUNA for new projects, but having an M1 macbook pro paired with the RME, I have had 0 issues. Even with my x8p, I'd "run out of resources" with a heavy mix. So far, I've not had any issues with the new setup. Thanks for the videos to encourage me to take the jump Barry.
Andrew, I'm now in your use case camp. after seeing Barry's vid on DSP. I just looked up the Baby face and it's similarly priced to an Apollo Twin X DUO. (I have a Mac Studio M1 Max). The only downside I see to not buy a pre or post NAMM Apollo, is I can't use the Console software to track in my LX mic signals. What's the fix for that - anyone? Thanks so much.
Lost in gear acquisition land, and I can even make a track yet, lol (trying to future proof).
@@Subjective_JoshNelson I am able to record my Sphere through my Baby Face. I use the native plugin from Townsend (the original maker of the mic) and it will work in any DAW. So, I put it on the channel strip as a regular plugin and it works great. Honestly I feel like it sounds better this way. I can hear a more pronounced difference in the mic models. The mic doesn't HAVE to run through Console. Of course any of the Putnam or OceanWay collections are UAD only and they will not work this way. Good thing is, the Townsend was free (or at least was when I got it).
RME uses a console like program called TotalMix. I was scared of it because I had read how complicated it was. For me, it was easy to set up (at least to get an initial recording done). The hard stuff comes when you start exploring the vast capabilities the program offers you. The functionality of it is unbelievable. I can't wait to dive into that more (probably after Barry does the tutorial video he promised us on it 😀).
Honestly, the only think I've missed is LUNA. I really loved tracking and mixing in that. My first two studios were analogue, and I just feel more comfortable with that "process". LUNA gave me that feel, and I got a ton of complements on my mixes in that versus any of the other DAWs I've tried. Hopefully they will come out with a non apollo required version (yeah right 😀)
I just bought the X8 2 weeks ago as the deal was it came with a free Townsend L22. The free mic is what did it for me. I went from an Apollo twin (single core) that I had for 6 years so I'm totally happy with the upgrade. Im a noob in the studio and this channel has helped me out soooo much. thank you
Isnt that the fact that UA is offering a Free Townsend mL22 w an X8 more proof a big product announcement is coming?
Whats up Benny man I thinking of get an x6 or x8 I would love to know where you got tyour deal, that Mic is over a grand itself, would appreciate it
@@snoopywalker1881 they purchased Townsend 18 months ago and they’re trying to get rid of those mics so their new mics are the only ones available. Also yes, you can assume that which I also did.
@@willieelliott352 it’s all about budget. What can you afford without regretting the purchase. Also what do you need? I went with x8 because I had the cash. I didn’t need that much but I also have plans in the next few years to grow my studio so it was a good choice. The x8p is also a great machine (2 more preamps).
Benny thanks so much for the reply Ihave a Digi 03 With a X mod, it sounds great, I was just thinking of when I do switch over because it's A Firewire Interface and I want to up grade to a Thunderbolt, I Have the Octo, was just thinking of get the x6 or x8, especially when you said the Mic deal,have a great day, thanks again
have new M3 Max MacBook Pro, loaded. If the advice now is instead of the aging Apollo's - to let the horsepower of the computer do the real work of DSP thats fine, but what non DSP interface do you recommend? Any comments much appreciated...
Well put sir. Keep being honest. It's refreshing and welcomed by this man! CHEERS!
How's that new Universal Audio Interface?
i cant solve the pops and distortion form the UAD amps... they take all CPU. And its not a computer problem cause its the only plugin that does it. i have 32 gb of RAM . and an i7
Thanks!
I just found out about that a Super Thanks even existed, so I'm sorry its take long to respond, I had no idea you had done this. Thank you so much, I truly appreciate the support!
I had one and can purely back you here , I had to swap it to a SSL 2+
Works like I need it to 🙏
I reallu want to try their Oxide Tape Recorder, but 15.4% cpu power per instance is not acceptable for a native plugin.
My setup currently is an Audient id14 with an audio technica. for my 3-4 years of production i always thought these were enough although I have Peers that tell me i should upgrade to an Apollo and get a new mic.
I know this isn't the topic of the video but what would you guys say would be best to do. get an Apollo or try out a shure microphone?
@BarryJohns Well. Here we go. What do you think of V2 hardware?
Is UAD still better than Modern Waves products? What do you think about the Waves Abbey Roads Mastering Plugin?
Yes
Is working good for me, no need to upgrade. If it ain't broke????
So anything new 6 month later ?
They just released a new usb (windows only) audio interface....would be interesting to get a review!
That's nothing new, RME is still king
UAD still has a decent ADC/DAC, best plugins, few cards (the same as before) are better and RME is not one of them
Speaking of AVID what is your thoughts on the new MBOX Studio interface?
which audio interface can you recommend me?
the Focusrite Clarett+ 8pre or the Apollo X8
I'm mainly concerned with low latency and low noise with good sound.
I just bought the clarett 8 pre I’m packing it back up today. For mic input I had to turn the gain up almost 90% times get usable signal I thought something was wrong after hours of searching I found multiple people saying this.
@@tsoghostly Which microphone did you use?
@@samadam4774 I tried it on 2 condenser mics Mojave ma 300 & the avatone bv1 . I ended up with an apogee interface happy with the sound I got now !!
@@samadam4774 mojave ma 300
what would be the best rival of the apollo twin x? taking in mind quality and price point.
RME Babyface Pro
@@BarryJohns thanks
do you think Apple is going to buy UA like they buy Emagic and Camel Audio?
So no new products were announced, now what ? :(
Cool thing about this is that if a person does not have a lot of money, the aging technology is getting better. May be a good idea to compare new price points and features of hardware with used. You might find that used Apollo gear could be better than new low-end gear, particularly if you have a less powerful computer and no funds to update.
What exactly do you think they will do? Some hybrid between DSP and native?
I’m beginning to think I was wrong, it’s a mystery to me. Their best bet would be to design something around ARM processors. Only time will tell.
I can't imagine UA, or anybody, coming out with an interface that will cause me to abandon my Apollos. They give me everything I could possibly hope for -- including easy I/O for mixing with outboard gear!
I think the biggest advice I can give anybody, if the gear you’re using does what you needed it to do, and you should not consider upgrading to anything else until it can no longer do what you needed to do.
Seems like the tascam model 12 seems like it covers way more. I know it's not an audio interface alone but it seems like that and much more. Am I wrong?
True, Adeles, Last single "Hello" was recorded in the box using the Apollo twin 2and generation. It was mixed in the box, mastered outside.The original DIGI 002 costed 1200.00. The d/a coverters were not near as good a U/A or even focusrite mid level pres. The Killers 1st album that got them on the radio was recorded on a digi 001, even worse D to A Converters, poor sounding mic pres. Great art will supersede any equipment.
@@BarryJohns Why are you always so bitter about UA? Its absurd. They make amazing products. Period. You have definitely fallen far in my estimation with 1. these ridiculously biased misinformation videos that you publish about UA and 2. your need to pretend like you are the Nostrodamus of audio, which nobody wants or needs. Hang it up, its just sad.
@@alexanderstuartpetty485 Didn't watch this video or any of the others, you are judging by a thumbnail. This video is actually supportive of UA. Go figure......
I'm already with apollo for years. Got the x8 and x16 for my desktop in the studio and they've been amazing. Thinking of buying an x4 now, more for "on the road" purposes. I travel a lot and it would give me the possibility to use my usual apollo setup in a more portable way with my laptop. But this video kind of gave me some doubts if that's the right way to go, or if it would be better to wait for their new machines. What do you think?
so it's been 4 months, when do we buy the Apollo? Do we just wait?
just switched to a X4 and V8 Apollo setup. Mainly got it for tracking and overall workflow. Both were purchased used and the transfer was simple and fast. this setup should last me a very long time.
Your set up is fine.
I need help reconnecting my apollo twin x will pay money to get it up and running again
I'm very new here, but I just wanted to say I hope you have a podcast. I could really keep your video playing and work in the background without any distractions. Your voice is just amazing for podcasts!
I bought an appollo twin x 8 couldn't use it fully with my iMac computer being dated so I bought a Mac book and it cannot recognize appollo , tried to use advice from support nothing what should I do with this user unfriendly appollo?$1000 bucks wasted.
I was getting ready to fight with the title of your video lol. But I agree with all of what you say. I did just pull the trigger on a an Apollo x8p Heritage interface and can't wait to dig in to it. I got some extra plugs like the Capitol Mastering compressor, tape delay, Lexicon 224 reverb, rotary speaker and a couple of others. My last interface was the Tascam US1800, so you can just imagine a whole new world that opens up to me with this new interface. I've read great things about the Behringer ADA8200, which would give you an extra 8 mic inputs that can be routed out via ADAT light pipe to the x8p. The converters are great and the unit is $229 street price. Not a bad investment for a modest home studio. Thanks for this video. We're about the same age and have seen a ton of change in the DAW interface recording world.
As much as I loved my plug-in set brought by my UAD-2 Quad PCIe, I honestly feel burned at the same time since UA refused to support it properly on systems with Ryzen processors. So upon upgrading my system, immediately half of my kit suddenly became unusable!
It was at that point I realized that I couldn't rely on UA (or any one proprietary platform) anymore since none of their stuff was native (thank God for Plug-in Alliance).
Honestly I should have diversified sooner. The practice in redoing my kit gives my plugin choice more focus. I'm actually in the process of removing bloat plug-ins and sorting everything that makes things useful and meaningful to me.
That said, still, it's still a nice knife in the stomach whenever I think I no longer have access to $1400 worth of plug-ins. I hope that UA in the future does add native access to their legacy packages/plug-ins, but until that happens, I'm staying away.
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Also HEY from a guy also rocking with RME!
UA's customer support is some of the worst I've ever experienced. It's like they train their support staff to gaslight customers. 🤣
I think diversification is completely overlooked and an underrated comment . Spot on
I'm looking to invest in a new interface. Does anyone know any release dates?
I want to buy a Apollo I'm on windows.I was just wondering why The Apollo twin USB interface..... Why they didn't upgrade the USB version and all the other versions are thunderbolt.
What mic are you using? Sounds great
My next video will be how I process my dialog.
@@BarryJohns 🙃
Barry I got my first uad product 3yr or so ago i got a apollo twin and have added on plugins also i think i can run max around 10-15 depending on witch ones Im running. The spark plugins are great but if u have no internet your shit out of luck (no cool).
Im on the fence where Im headed in the future. I built a offline setup and Now all these companies are making it where u need internet to run there products.
Just buy a physical iLok key and all your problems will be fixed
@@hlgrf8876 you know I didnt even think of that cus i been using a digital ilock that is a good idea. I never owned a phyiscal ilock
@@ScantlessBeatz It’s very trendy to bash the iLok dongle, I personally have zero problems with it. I have a desktop so I’m not moving around with the dongle so no worries that I might lose the dongle. It’s plugged in and stays that way. It’s super convenient when upgrading from one macOS to another or moving to a fresh installation. You don’t have to manually authorize all your plugins, as long as the dongle is plugged in you’re good to go. Sometimes I wish ALL my third party plugins were authorized to my iLok dongle.
@@drvoodoo3073 Ya I never had a problem with a phyiscal ilok I just did not want to pay for one when I had a digital ilock but did not realize some plugins need internet to verify. I own other plugins on my ilock and i dont need internet for them the Uad spark plugins surprised me when my internet was accidentally unplugged one day and they didn't work. I have a laptop protable set up cus I dj & do remote recording session like people will pay me to go to their house and record them. A laptop,mic,apollo is basically all I need to remotely record and Im not using a $200 mic I have a Neumann mic.
Know I have more studio gear then that Im just saying a mic laptop and apollo interface is the best option for me cus myself and my clients can hear the processing in real time from autotune,reverb or anything put on the vocal chain. Thats why I got a apollo in the first place cause it gives me basically no latency and I can print in real time what ever is on my vocal chain. Now I do need to get a apollo 8x in the future maybe.
Barry ayuda! Estoy por elegir entre un RME ufx+ en $2300 o por una apollo quad x8p EN $2200 tengo un PROPHET 6 y un TR-8S. Quiero poder sacar el provecho. mi primer placa seria y es entre esta dos. Es todo mi dinero ayuda. Cual opinas ?
I could have bought any interface and I bought the UFX+.
Barry this is a good video and makes sense but you said you "stake your reputation" on a new Apollo for NAMM which has been and gone ... and UA are silent. How about a follow up?
Well it looks like my reputation is in shatters, can’t get all of them right🤦♂️
it'll probably take more than this to shatter @@BarryJohns! To maybe add to your argument the Apollo x4 is the lowest price it has ever been while the rest of the Apollo's aren't which may suggest that is the targeted replacement they are running out. My interest in Apollo is definitely driven by Unison preamps and not DSP capability. I don't have external preamps and I'm replacing a 10 year old Focusrite Saffire Liquid 56 for my project studio. The 56 has a basic version of Unison with Liquid selectable preamps. That's why the Apollo was of more interest than an alternative audio interface like an Audient where I get a great - but non-variable - preamp. As per one of your videos I need great preamps for vocals and acoustic guitar and I like that Unison provides Neumann and API preamps amongst others. Now I'm unsure as to how to replace my aged Focusrite audio interface ....
What interface is an upgrade after it?
I've been using a Tascam US1800 on a Windows 8 ten year old computer for the last decade. Surprisingly it still works great with very little latency, but I have been looking into a complete upgrade (New computer, new interface) for a while mainly because the tech has improved so much from when I started out and I would like something with a superior AD/DA converter and modern DSP plugin system. I've been hesitant because getting into something new with the ability to record 16 or more tracks at once would cost thousands of dollars. If and when I do get a new setup I want it to allow me to use my collection of outboard preamps and something that will last me for years. I've been looking at the Apollo x8, the older Apollo quad 8, Steinberg AXR4T or a Motu interface. What would you recommend?
Hey what do you think about the model 12?
My Apollo twin x is recording a buzz rn would you happen to know why
hey Barry, question(s) 1, is there an alternative to the tube tech plugin? new to the system and my 14 day trail is coming up, when first got it I got the 6 for 400 deal and I didn't know about the tube tech, is there even away to exchange one of my plugins for it? purchased middle of jan... and from what I hear the deals only come out twice a year, and im recording hip hop daily, non of that drake singing crap like nwa, ice t, dr Dre sound if that gives you an idea... thanks
Tube Tech plugins are actually by Softube. Just get the native versions.
barry what a bout luna record sistem is release for uad spark ?
I just wanna write and record music. I’m a one man band aka keyboard player. I just bought a Mac Studio and love Logic Pro X. I have used a mbox m2 mini for over a decade and other than the hissing it gives you if you turn your gain up any, it does everything I need which is…MIDI, usb to computer, mic inputs,….
What would you recommend me get to up grade away from the hissing while keeping everything else?
Thanks for all you do!
NAMM 2023 is here, and UAD isn't in the lineup... you still believe they are gonna release a new Apollo this year?
Why do you think UA would release a new Apollo based around being able to use plugins natively? Like we couldn't already do that with the existing Apollo now
You could only be able to do that in the last few months since Spark was released. Im suggesting we will see a new type of DSP that allows seamless switching between native and DSP. Who knows if I’m right, I’ve been half right so far, but we will have to see what happens at NAMM. They are defiantly trying to get rid of existing Apollo units as they keep continuing the sale. This hasn’t happened to this degree before.
@BarryJohns I live in Fort Wayne next to the sweetwater HQ and last week i bought an open box apollo X8 for $2,275 out the door. If they release a new one right after my 30days is up I'll be so upset lol
A few years ago I started investing in hardware, currently I have 3 full racks of equipment and I lack space for more devices that have already been bought. DSP uad lies in the garage because I didn't even want to connect to a new computer, I never buy equipment from manufacturers who abandon support. That's why I have and use RME and MYTEK adda. I heard that UA has abandoned to support Apollo with Firewire.....is it true ?
3:48 and i was on Sonar back then because it outperformed them all. Console emulation was crazy good too!
Prophet Barry Johns 😅 you always have good future insight and advice that can help us from making a move too soon. Thanks for your videos 💯
I got an x8p about 2 years ago. It was a much needed upgrade at the time and did transform my recordings by tracking through their dsp powered plugins. Super curious about the new interfaces coming out, though it'll be a long time before I get something new as I bought the Apollo for the long haul. I'll upgrade my computer long before that.
Thanks man, I’m going to wait to buy anything at this point. When I grabbed the Antelope Audio Discrete 4, no more than 31 days later they came out with the synergy core processing. They would not let me exchange or upgrade at all. I even had series issues with connectivity to my computer. It left a mark with me where I vouched to never buy another Antelope Audio interface again. But either way, almost 4 years later, I’m on the look again. Uggggggg
Hi Barry I realise this question is on the bottom end of the spectrum but I’m urgently looking for an audio interface that gives me professional or at least semi professional recordings. Will the Apollo Solo do the job or do I have to get the Twin. Would appreciate any insight. Thanks.
I feel like I’m stuck I bought the one for PC nobody wants it and I might be getting a desk top Mac I’m already using Mac for my portable side .
I need a small box DSP. What else than UA?
I’ve gotten rid of most of my outboard gear. Recently added a 2nd X8P that came with the Sphere L22. I love the versatility of the unison Pres. Bang for the buck $3300 pull out the $1500 for the included L22 and I added 8 mic Pres for under $250 each.
I understand tech always move forward but I’m super happy having 20 unison mic Pres, enough DSP to run a 1073 and Fairchild on every channel or an API and 1176 for tracking. UADX allows me spreed out my mix across the Apollos and M1 Mac mini. Using Luna.
I’m very happy where I am and if UA puts something out that completely blows away my current system. That would be great for everyone as I really don’t have any technical reasons I can’t make a great album.
I was late on the x8 l22 sale :( i am very new and only learned about the l22 about 2 weeks ago. I quickly got myself an l22 because I know when theyre sold out, only the new ones are available
@@ducngo3077 Welcome!
I use studio one and reaper on my five year old pc with a cheap ssl interface and everything just runs super smooth. Never ever had any problems. All the uad native plugins run fine. I was on the fence to buy an Apollo quad or x6 as I plan to get a little bit of analog stuff in the future, but now I may be better looking into other interfaces.. the new uad interfaces you told us all were around the corner are still not available.. so what to go for? RME?
You are right. This stuff changing so fast. And there are so many cheaper options on the market. I just purchased the Apolo X4, in a bundle with a Sphere LX microphone. Then they added tons of plugins also. So I’m waiting to see if what you say happens- but it would be nice to see new hardware Apollos at a cheaper price.
Barry, what is your take on the just announced Native bundled plug-in sale promo? Should one jump on it now, due to the heavy discounting going on. Or, will one regret buying, say the Diamond bundle at $699 because post NAMM they will have updated them. (Just looking for your speculative opinion; nothing I would hold you too : ) ) Also, I'm not clear if I buy the Native bundle do I get the DSP versions, too. - at no extra charge?
@Barry Johns Studio Talk - I didn’t think there would be new Apollos at NAMM and there wasn't.
I give up on UAD when FireWire was not supported by the newer machines. What am I supposed to do with my old FireWire satellite card? No one wants to buy it. Of the plug-ins I did buy. I wish they would make them native already. Charging $24 for a subscription on spark for very little content. I can get by with the plug-ins I have.
Luna works with Core Audio Now? That makes me wonder what is up.
Hi Barry, great video, 1 question: I have a Fireface UCX and I barely record audio here, and when it happens (vocal or guitar) is only 1 channel at a time. My main recording is VSTs synths via USB midi keyboard (House/Techno) music producer here. My projects are always 24bit/48khz sample rate / 256 buffer size. Round Trip Latency on RME are one of the best in terms of those values bit/sample/buffer I get arround 13ms and if I go 128buffer size I get arround 7ms. I saw some tests that shows Apollo Round Trip Latency 13.4ms at 128 buffer size, meaning poor performance (almost half of the performance of RME). But I didnt test my self. The whole point here is that a friend of mine, wants to buy my RME cuz he needs more I/Os and he wants to exchange his apollo twin mkii Quad + old mac mini 2012 + Behringer Xenyx 2442. I would keep his Apollo with me and sell the mac and the mixer. Im afraid that maybe is not a good deal. Could you give your opinion?
The computer and behringer are not worth anything at all. I would not make that trade.
Mr barry which interface do you recommend of a professional interface im new starting and i dont want to buy another one and another one. I just want one can grow with me sir. If you have choice please let me no sir. Im new to you and building a home studio sir. Have a great day sir
How About UAD Satelite , Anyone ??
I am digging Luna with the API and Tape extensions. The workflow is really well thought out making it more of a console than a DAW workflow. I am looking at upgrading to the Antelope Orion Studio from my Discrete 8 Synergy core. As far as Antelope goes, when I have had issues, they have been fixed quickly with their support team. I guess I am wondering if there is an appreciable difference between Unison and just a good quality AD interface. Not that I have a budget for the Apollo channel count I would need...
Wanted ur opinion if u think apogee symphony mk3 will be there in namm2023
Apogee are lagging
@@christopherpederson1021 what do u mean by lagging
Not exactly sure what more we we can expect from the current crop of DAWS and interfaces...if there's something you can't do in this day and age it's most likely user error. At this point people should focus on upgrading their singing, rapping, songwriting, instrumentation or production skills...which all seem to take a dive whenever the next "essential" DAW feature or plugin fixes your mistakes with one click and eliminates the need/opportunity to learn how, and more importantly, why and when to do something.
I love your honest appraisals and great information!
I've had a lot of issues with my antelope D 4 synergy core.
I've had to download drivers many times. Sometimes the headphones work, most the time not.
I can't just sit down and record...there's usually always some issue or update or something that gets in the way and I wind up spending all my allotted time fixing the problem getting ready to record, rather than actually recording!
And I spent 1100 bucks on it.
I had a much, much easier time recording and got way more done when I used a Yamaha 8 track digital/analog unit!
RME really is the GOAT. They were among the first to have updated driver for the RME 800 with the M1max. That interface is like 16+ years old, and it’s still GREAT.
Think it's worth waiting until winter naam to see if there's something similar to the volt 2 from them?
I agree with you all the way, but they just released a new twin usb 3. Did you get to check it out?
Looking forward to your thoughts on it 🙌🏻
This is a huge stretch, but a control surface version of the Apollo with full control of console and LUNA, 16 unison enabled preamps, great A/D D/A converters, automation (motorized faders) and parameters, and also a ton of SHARC processors for even more DSP along with the ability to use UAD plugins without LUNA or DSP would definitely be game changing. Still I'm happy with my Apollo X8P and Octo-Satilite and probably wouldn't sell it even if I did jump on any new Apollo, especially if they continue to work together in the same ecosystem as they do now.
that would be insane, but would most defo come at a huge price
This dude should’ve nvr made this video
I use Metric Halo 2882 and LIO 8. I have had the 2882 for 20 years. The company has had some upgrades and both units sound amazing / amazing features / amazing quality / great support. I would love you to do a review on Metric Halo. Very underrated.
yes but no dante card
There was NO major Apollo announcement at Winter NAMM by Universal Audio.
Hello, your audio is always really clear. What microphone and interface do you use to record your speaking portions? Do you do any processing?
I have a video on my channel regarding how I process my voice for the channel as well as talk about the mic I use.
How I Process My Voice for Videos
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Yeah I've been looking into a new interface. I been a beginner bought my studio equipment and stuff this last year around May and I bought a Scarlet Focusrite 2i2 and it been working good but my mentor that taught me to make beats and produce told me in time get you a better interface..Ive been looking into the Apollo. Looks like something he has but should I wait to get the Apollo like you said because you say they will come out with something new. Give me some feed back. Thankyou
I'd hold onto your 2i2 for now. If improving your mixes is the main priority, get some good open back headphones. If you already have good headphones and monitors, invest in some decent acoustic treatment (not foam) for your room.
Do you think they are going to also make a better OXBOX ?
i never bought an apollo but i dreamed of buying one, i have an audient id4 just to work remotely but now im building a studio with a friend and i was gonna buy the latest apollo if i had the money so thank you, ill wait and see what happens this year
Hi Barry, love your videos.
I bought a UA X8P a little over a year ago despite your advice and it works quite wel,l although it was overpriced. The deciding factor for me was that it allows you to track with plugins….Im not tracking with compression or EQ but being able to take advantage of mic pre modules when tracking is a real plus. Having 8 channels of Telefunken V76 or similar is unheard of for me. Am I missing something? Is there a way to do that with RME for example?
And, do you know if UAD Console is compatible with Reaper?
Thanks for all you do!
UAD works great with REAPER!
RME still have a different focus, decent card, not better than UAD but not worse. For tracking, preamps and UAD plugins in that price range is inevitable, except you have eg. 8x 1073/1084/88RLB/etc outboard pre connected to eg. a Merging card.
UAD is running a massive sale right now on all hardware products.. until March 31st.. which might also be a sign of things to come.
I’m thinking that the old interfaces might still be compatible with whatever they’re planning.. if they allow connectivity to the older interfaces from the next generation.. people would be fine. Also they could just make an option of using DSP or RAM. Because i got like 64G of RAM on my Mac UAD setup.. if apollo could properly access that additional memory i’m game.
Same setup as me i have a new max 2 macbook pro w 64gb of ram. Its way more than enough
The alternative to DSP is more like CPU than RAM. Having a lot of memory isn’t gonna make your computer process the plugins any faster. The CPU processes the audio. We have no clue what UA’s gonna do though. I think whatchu meant to say was that they should give you the option to run their plugins either DSP or native. They just started rolling out the native versions of their plugins. But a setting or switch to change between native and DSP would make more sense imo.
What’s the latest on this??
ï use an apollo solo everyday and ï love it
I have Apollo Twin Thunderbolt and I love it. The sound with my EVE SC305 monitors and Adam Sub8 is amazing, and at this point I don't need anything else. There are UAD plugins I cannot work without, and there are plugins that I basically lost money and don't use them. I don't like the subscription model but, I am very curious what UAD will come up with next.
I still use a Prism Orpheus. Lovely. Everyone has their own practice and work flow.
Love your insight Barry, I've been holing out on a computer upgrade as well as Audio Interface which I was thinking of a RME or Apollo, just that RME is firewire an I want to go to Thunderbolt.
Thank you for the good video .In so far as converter quality .As the issue of age . In that you have more wisdom for song writing material , and life experience .What about the converters that are attached to our heads ? The ability to hear the extra best quality ? Not totally lost but a perspective .
I noticed like a month and a half ago, a lot of vendors are giving discounts on UA interfaces, they're giving a lot of plugins with purchase too.
Use an Apollo with external outboard it is a bad thing?
No, exactly the opposite, thats the recommended recording workflow.
I've had my Apollo for almost 8 years now and was thinking of getting a new Apollo to add I/O to my system. Now that they will probably release new versions, I am waiting to see what the new ones are and whether they can be linked to my current Apollo. I would be disappointed if UA didn't update their hardware periodically.
I hope you're planning on an update video now that thet just released their new versions. might be called "AS I WAS SAYING... LOL" or wonder if they changed your mind.
good video Barry, speaking of antelope audio I owned Zen go interface for 3 years I sold it yesterday ,not worth the money ,I bought plugins then I found that after month they put the same plugins on free with pack, plus on that plugins behavior wired the needles not moving ,I when I try to post that subject in they community group I got banned😯😯?? I going for the new audient ID24
I think we're looking at 1) new ARM-based Apollo's, and 2) a new Ox Box (apparently rumors of a pedal version). I think there are a few clues as to why the new Apollo's will be ARM-based, namely, Apple silicon support already existing for the UADx plugins and also the UAFX pedals running on ARM-processors. That also means that the UAFX may eventually get ported to this new UAD-ARM/UADx platform. I also fully expect the ability to toggle the UADx plugins between the DSP and native On-Demand.
Low cost pro audio interface w/ good Ad/Da Conversion? That’s not focusrite
❤Hi Barry it’s taken me 50 years to get here,UAD AND APOLLO GIVE ME THE QUALITY I LOVE
so what happens to the 2 I just bought for 7k $ 2 month ago so we are fucked
not including the plugins WOW
Thought this was a clickbait video. Great video Barry, way to put the future of apollo into perspective for those who don't have half a brain.