These tires are great in the summer, but I just drove in some heavy sleet and freezing rain and they performed beautifully. While as expected, the traction is less than studless snow tires, they offer great stability and predictability. I was able to get wild (only on purpose not unexpectedly) then reign it right back in on command. You will never stop on a dime in icy conditions, but I felt it stopped better than average for being on ice. They perform better all around than any other all seasons I’ve had. 10/10 would buy again.
These tires may be exceptional in 3 seasons, but you sir are exceptional in all seasons and all time! I’ve been trying to get you more subs with my friends. You are a gem! Keep up the good work! Much love from Canada
Bigger UHP all season test coming soon, so subscribe for that! Also if you have any feedback on your own tyres, head over to www.tyrereviews.com and leave a review for all to see :D Double also, if you watch one thing, skip to the traction part and enjoy the total car / landscape porn ❤️❤️
Is it 4% or 24% better dry braking? Because the caption at 2:48 says 24%? Thanks for the great videos, keep it up!👌 No need to skip! Greetings from Germany ✌️
Welcome to Salt Lake City! I live in the Big Cottonwood Canyon above the city and love driving the canyon in the summer, but we see 400 inches of snowfall through the winter. It's great but tricky combination for tire choice. Thanks for the great videos!
"as the drive between LA and Salt Lake is basically a million miles" m8, that's basically the same as going from Dallas, Texas to El Paso, Texas. European geography has you spoiled with short drives between great places lol.
If you drive 700 miles in Switzerland your trip will take you from Geneva to Davos then back to Geneva and then to Zurich, assuming you still have your driver license...
@@tyrereviews oh yeah. Many canyons through that drive. I’ve done it so much that it’s kind of boring to me haha, but there are other canyons in UT that are absolutely beautiful to drive, in all weather conditions. I’m from San Diego, CA, and have been in UT for 4 years for school, and over the years, have done this drive a lot. Even just going to Vegas I’ve done quite a bit.
Great video! I live and work in SLC and have done that drive MANY times to visit family in LA. It’s fun to live 20 minutes from my favorite ski resort. I’m up there nearly every week 4-5 months of the year. And….love the tires you chose to review. I run a dedicated winter wheel/tire combo November-March (Michelin X-ice)and those A/S the rest of the year. They are great for unpredictable Utah weather. Dedicated summer tires wear out too fast and pick up gravel and throw it all over the place.
This is exactly why I use UHP All Seasons on my car. I live in the Midwestern U.S. and it can get cold in the fall but not generally too hot. Great for use in spring-fall.
The best tire review channel on YT! Just bought a set of Michelin Sport AS4 to replace Michelin Cross Climate tire worn prematurely and causing a terrible humming noise.
I love the conclusion for the snow behavior. It sums up perfectly. They are really good as long as the road surface is still visible. Which covers a lot of use-cases, like freshly plowed roads, or busy salty roads, which are slushy, instead of snowy. I really struggle on these surfaces with summer tires, but these all seasons are just fine. And this covers a LOT of the population, like everything between Canada and Florida, or Scandinavia and Spain, and the populated city areas.
I just replaced a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires (which, I LOVED) with these Pilot Sport AS 4 tires so that I can drive at lower temperatures without as much worry while also maintaining a lot of performance. While the PS4S were the best feeling and looking tires I've ever had on my cars (in appropriate temperatures), I'm also loving the feel of these PSAS4 tires so far. They will probably be what I stick with from now on. Great video!
This is exactly my experience with the Pilot Sport AS3+. It’s so good on anything compacted and relatively plowed snow even storms on roads but once the snow gets fresh and the tire can’t reach a firm surface it becomes pretty challenging sometimes. This tire was even really good for ice considering it’s an all season.
@@lonniemurray4742 2009 Civic Si in manual FWD. Since posting this I swapped to Vredestein Wintrac Pros for the winter as in ski lot conditions I was getting stuck too often with the AS3+ in deep snow.
@@justinstewart3248 summer were great as always. Great cornering grip and wet/dry traction. Only downer is the ride is pretty rough/stiff but a tradeoff I don’t mind.
@@lonniemurray4742 I had the A/S3 on my GTI and I feel the same. I switched to summer 4S and they have been fine in very light snow say 2 inch max . I have another car with winter tires, so I mainly use that one when I see snow. But if its say 20 degrees Fahrenheit and dry, its been fine for normal driving.
I can see these being really popular in Vancouver, Canada. It gets cold and wet and slushy where they would outshine a summer tire and it rarely gets the harsher winter climates of Eastern Canada with massive amounts of snow that would make the tires fail. Definitely will be in consideration for me in the future when my winters/summers need replacing. The rim protector and nice sidewalls are such a blessing and I wish more manufacturers put it into consideration for their tires. It would be features like that that would make me consider that tire over a comparable competitor.
@@rohinhans7819 I did consider those when I bought my car last fall but I didn't feel like the the technology in the tire was enough for my sporty performance oriented sedan, so I went with full winter tires. Luckily I made the right choice for that winter because we had that snowmagedon even though I didn't think it was that bad. I would get these for my regular daily driver though.
Great review! I think these tires make more sense than the PS4S for a street car; better life span, they don't pick up stones as much and they're cheaper, my buddy runs PS A/S3+ on his 996 911 for those reasons. Totally agree with your assessment about them being a 3 season tire, if you live in Ontario or other jurisdiction with similar or worse winters you really need dedicated winter tires.
@@NS416 maybe, but even here in BC's bigger city's get completely covered a few times a year. To the point where you need winter tires. Would think it's much more frequent out East
Prefer to not to take chances. Pilot sport 4s in the spring, summer and fall. Pilot Alpin PA4's for the winter. That is what i use for daily driving my c4s cab. Works great.
The 6 dislikes are from people running Pirelli’s 😉 Great video Johnathan. A very superb tire. It’s all crazy that your drove a nearly 500 HP car, 2,000 miles, and got 25 MPG. Well done!
@@dj_efk Hate to pick but if you too are a Brit, then you will know that the words “the” and “its” cannot be combined together to make a logical sentence...
It appears the PS4 A/S is quite a tire, but the one on the Corvette is a bit of a ringer. According to Michelin, the Corvette tire compound, construction, and tread pattern is different from the rest of the line. Good description of the differences was given by the Michelin marketing guy on a Tire Rack video. That being said, these will be going on my Accord 2.0T soon. Thanks for the great report, and I wish could get a Corvette too.
@@tyrereviews Thanks for the video. Would you tell us what is the UTQG treadwear rating ? I saw it, 540, It is really good, higher than most summer tires for only about 200-300
@@tire_reviews it is not enough for people who live in high snow area, but enough for most Western USA and Canada, below Kentucky/Tennessee, Western Europe including Germany, and France except Apls area. Germany required 3peaks symbol for winter tires after 2024 although Germany are mostly wet in winter, not snowing except Hamburg or Berlin. Fortunately, the Law only say in icy conditions, not by month like Austria. Winter tire is a waste of money, noisy, wear fast in aspalt, and soft like gelly. I believe, we only need US touring all seasons tires for most people that only get snow 1-5 days in a yesr.
I love UHP AS tires. Even in summer, they are better than most summer tires, only summer UHP tires can beat them by a small margin. I was only 1/10th away from my car’s official 0-60 time. Sure they are NOT snow tires at all. They are only good enough to get you home in case of a half inch surprise snowfall. If you are careful. Better than summer tires, but nowhere near real snow tires. But many of us are living in populated areas, where roads are plowed overnight, and on the 2 days a year when we have heavy snow, I can just stay at home. And these are the best in rain and/or cold. I’d put 60k miles into a Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric AS set in my Mustang, and I was very satisfied with it. I just replaced it to these Michelins (that’s why I’m watching these videos), which has even higher ratings. Looking forward to how they perform.
Update: just after writing the above comment, I did my first acceleration test. Temperatures just below freezing, road surface is dry. I have 320HP on the rear wheels. No revving the engine, just wide open throttle from idle after a red light. Not even a squeak, the grip is very nice. On this performance level, I see no drawbacks whatsoever compared to a dedicated summer tire. I would probably need 500+ HP to justify Pilot 4S for the summer.
Ever since your latest comparison of UHP all season tires, I've been waiting to see the promised winter comparison of them, mostly to see how the Continental ExtremeContact DWS06+ handles compacted snow compared to the other choices. It rains a lot in western Oregon, so Conti tires have always been a favorite of mine, but I'm moving to Michigan and want an all season tire that can handle more than a dusting of snow.
Beautiful video! I will say there's an important caveat in that the tread pattern on the 'Vette-specific AS4 is pretty different from the standard AS4. I wonder how that affects behavior.
Thank you for pointing out that important detail ; that snow footage at 9:00 is terrible performance for a All Season Tire. I'm now reconsidering this tire for my Audi S5.
I got to drive that same setup for an hour at NCM Motorsports Park, phenomenal tire in the heat, with great wear characteristics to boot, and if it functions well below 40f that's just magical
For the majority of us who have hotter cars, this tire and it’s predecessor give about 90% of a summer tire on public roads, especially if you are slicing and dicing back roads. A great product
Oh my favourite channel by far. Always link your videos when people are trying to argue what tyres are better. Please test the Nankang ar1 against big brand tyres like cup 2, trofeo r, r888r etc
Love your stuff! Always found tires amazing, and this channel is the best. Informative w/ beautiful camerawork. It was fun seeing my local haunts (SLC and all the canyons) on a UK based channel. Next time you're here, you can borrow my car for any new tire (or tyre, lol) test!
Kind of a funny update; 2 days after installing these I got stuck in a snowstorm. I've been a big believer of winter tires for years, and this experience reenforced that. I had what I'd consider to be "average winter driving problems" - gotta go slow, a lot of sliding while trying to brake, stability control doing its best. As opposed to proper winter tires, where all these were virtual non-issues. The dream of one set of tires for the whole year... still not here.
Great point to the video. I used to always disregard all season tires, but realizing I mostly don’t experience any snow during the winter, I’m thinking an all season for the winter and a summer tire for the summer makes sense :)
I was a two-set-of-tires dude but then storage became an issue for me so I've watched a few reviews on CrossClimate and realized that, in my country, snow have become rarirty yet rain and temperature fluctations have gone wild. Now, I have them on two cars all year round and I am very satisfied with them. Added benefit of longevity since my mileage is, sadly, above local average.
@@tyrereviews ... brought beck some great memories of driving the same route (I15) but in two halves ( Santa Monica to LV flowed by LV to Salt Lake City) in a brand new V8 Mustang 👍🏼
Great review! While I do run dedicated summer and winter tires on my G8, it's nice to see a tire that would work well in colder but less snowy areas, as yeah, summer tires are terrible once it gets cold.
Thanks Jonathan, for another interesting and useful tire review. I think you've nailed it precisely on how well Michelin has balanced and extracted the best handling and wear characteristics that are normally mutually exclusive on tires. I noticed this on previous reviews on other Michelin tires and experienced it myself on the PS4S tires that I got on my 370Z. Your excellent review of the PS4S was a principal reason for why I got that tire. I'm looking forward to future summer ultra high performance tire reviews ... if these darn PS4Ss will ever wear down😉, or maybe I just need to do some fast canyon carving on the coastal roads here in northern California in order to help them along.
I love your videos! Excellent job as usual. It was really fun to see a video in my home state where I recognize everything. I frequently drive up Big Cottonwood Canyon. That is a fun canyon with a sporty car.
One of your greatest video ever! The location and the car helped a lot. TBH I watched only for this 😂. I thought I was a tyre nerd but did not knew about this UHP AS tyre, amazing what tyre technology can do this days. Great content, as usual!
I love this kind of tire technology. This UHP all-season performs better than several middling summer performance tires in dry and wet conditions above 40° Fahrenheit. It truly does everything, with even decent snow capability. The Michelin PSAS4 and the Continental DWS 06 Plus really have changed the game for UHP all/season tires. I have the DWS 06 Plus on my Mazda3 and they’re great, but I wonder if I missed out on some outright dry grip or steering feel compared to the Michelin. Though I know the wet and snow performance of the Continental will be superior I don’t get much of that weather in SoCal.
Just went with these for my mustang GT..I like driving my car in very cold temps(not snow) so I didn't go with summer tire. Hope I made the right choice!
Torn between these and the DWS06 plus tires. These supposedly make more noise, are heavier, and cost more. The Conti's supposedly are a little less precise in turn in and have a narrower tread size for size....but a better ride. How would you compare the two...and is the dws06 plus better in snow or not....your stopping stuff shows the Michelin to be better but others suggest the lateral issues with the Micheling (turning) are pretty concerning in snow..... Torn... Great video. Car is an F-type awd with 20" wheels....to use all winter in the mid Atlantic USA where we see only 2-4 days of snow.
I think a lot of people misunderstand the point of an all season tire, it's not really made to give you great snow traction. The real reason for those tires is for people who live in places that get winter but not a huge amount of snow, making dedicated winter tires impractical. Basically what he was talking about in terms of canyon driving.
That fits my experience. when you have a sporty car, your living in an area where the streets are mostly damp or dry in the winter at temperatures around 0°C and you don't need to drive it every day I can recommend to drive a summer tire in the summer and an all season in winter, because the all season just is the better compromise. Also if the car has AWD traction is not a problem even on streets with thick snow. The all season has a better road feel and as long as the roads are not snowy it even has more grip than a normal winter tire.
One comment worth making - the Corvette OEM PS4AS is slightly less geared towards actual snow and more towards providing a reasonable driving experience in very cold temps. The actual PS4AS should do better in snow by a fair bit than the Corvette versions 🤞
Like the honesty of this tire's capabilities in varying conditions. We seem to agree. I drive a Scion FRS. It came new with primacy HP tires. Made in France. Very satisfactory they were and lasted 48,000 miles. >Replaced them with Pilot Sport 3+ tires, Y spec. Hated those tires as the sidewalls were too soft. All the wonderful sharp steering response of the previous primacy HP tires no longer existed.< Went back then to another set of Primacy Hp tires yet one size bigger. Those were made in Spain. The made in Spain tires had great handling/steering feel, yet were much harder riding than the original tires. Switched them out for a set of Pilot Sport 4s tires in also the bigger size...now on the car. These are a great compromise between the other two. Still slightly hard riding yet no where near as hard as the Primacy HP tires made in Spain. I have not yet figured out how much difference there is in ride quality between sizes. Original tires were 215/45/17. Now using 225/45/17. The 4s tires do retain the handling/steering feel of the Primacy HP tires. Have you experienced same model, same size tire, yet made in a different country, varying in stiffness or hardness of rubber content ?
Good information, if you ever get the time feel free to leave some reviews at www.tyrereviews.com :) As for different manu countries, unless the tyres are intended for different markets, or an OE fitment, they should be the same. And Michelin are probably the best at making them the same. So it might be the larger sized HP were an OE fitment somewhere, intended for a different market to the OE tyres, or just one of those weird things with a larger size like an extra ply was introduced
I see that corvette going the exact same way as the Nissan GT-R. When they first came out they were around £60,000 in the UK but now are nearly twice the price because they are just that good and sold a lot.
Great video even if filming yourself! This tyre connects two seeingly opposite quallities and it just shows how far the technology has came. Of course it has limitations but this is still a sensible option for certain people. Looking foward for more content! :)
As a UK driver, I'd probably go for this. As it's not available I've opted for the Cross Climate 2 - I drive a Passat Alltrack estate so hardly a performance vehicle. Gets us to the Alps fine in the winter, and the tyres also help out when we get a couple weeks snow and slush
I use Firestone Indy 500 summer tires starting in March for the last 4 years on my 16 S550 GT and drives perfectly fine even in -15+ temps! It will loose some tire pressure which my portable inflator can easily refill and amazed how well it does! I still can't believe how good these tires considering it's going to last me 8 months each year for 4 years for a set of tires that only cost $1100CAD!
I'm in Seattle where Fall/Winter weather is typically above 40F with occasional days/week that drops below 40, very infrequently with snow. I continue to buy Performance Summer tires because if on the rare occasion it did snow, I just wouldn't drive. My understanding is that ALL SEASON tires above 40F, always compromise wet/dry traction/handling and wet/dry braking. On less common days where it's wet and below 40F I'd drive a little more conservative. Under these circumstances would you agree that the Michelin PS4S would fit my use case best rather than the Michelin PS AS4? I do also have another set of wheels with some AS RFT tires but would only put them on in extreme cold weather where I absolutely had to drive, which again would be pretty rare.
I'm in Seattle as well. The all season tires are superior in the rain over the PS4. I got to drive both side by side in the rain. I have an extra set of ps4 for summer. I'll keep the all seasons on until June 1.
Got my as3 replaced with as4 on fiesta st. Hands down better tire. Road comfort wise. Turn in is better and i think the rubber is better compounds feels sticky to touch. My as3 lasted 26,000 miles they were cracking at 20,000 and chunks tearing at 25,000. Highly abused i rip my car every day to and from work. I dont drive in snow as i have a truck but that ability to grip at 30 degrees is needed in newengland i opted for the as4 over going r888 because of this reason. The toyos would have sucked in the wet and cold which is like half of the year so no brainer. Plus the fiesta is more rally than street anyways a all seasons probably more fitting
Another awesome video!!! I'm in Utah and live just down the street from Cottonwood Canyon were you were at, definitely a beautiful canyon! Also, driving on the salt flats is super fun. Keep the fantastic content coming. I would love to see this tire versus the Conti DWS and General Gmax AS05 and see all the data in dry and snow.
I am glad you had a good time in the US. It really is a beautiful country. I run Pirelli UHP all seasons on my WRX, traction is not an issue even in deep fresh snow.
I drove on Goodyear Eagle F1s (Max performance summer tire) from Canada to Texas many times over 5 years during the winter, pretty much matched what you're saying for the Pilot Sports. During those trips I hit 2 blizzards and one freezing rain storm. Like on the Vette they sucked in the snow but they did "ok" on pure ice, I gather due to the softer rubber compound. Not sure why you'd say UHP summers are bad in colder wet (not snow), the F1's were not bad at all. Just my opinion though, did over 10,000 miles in those "off" conditions. Good review BTW and beauitful car well, ... except the color ;)
@@dufonrafal At least in the US. If you're going with the flow of traffic, the police leave you alone. Going too much slower than the flow of traffic is dangerous to you and everyone else. Just don't be last
I autocrossed on the 215/45R17 version of these for half a year. They have amazing wear qualities and at the end of the season they show very little wear.
Yes, why isn’t this type of tyre available in Europe, a dam good question? Similarly the Continental Extreme Contact DWS range??? Thank you, I enjoy your video shows immensely. I never buy a set of tyres without watching you latest Tyre Reviews, keep up the tremendous good work. I share your reviews with many of my colleagues and friends who drive HPV’s and UHP’s. Thank You....... 👍
Did the school run this morning, car starts shouting at me that i have a flat. look at both my front tyres and both my Pilot Sport 4S tyres have screws in them and not just one screw. aarrhhhhhhh. I live in the south of England but these dont seem to be available yet???? is that right. I so what a set
I put these on my Accord V6 (Front drive, about 280hp). They're great even in sub 40 fahrenheit (as you said), but they are insanely grippy for an all-season. The unintended byproduct has been that they don't chirp when you hit the gas, and I've been finding a bit less torque steer off the line.
5:14 When you say "you don't get information that front axle is about to slide", can you describe what you mean? How do you feel this? Maybe make a video about it? Thanks
As Arthur said, however a few extra psi won't give up much grip and toul have a nicer steering feel, but it will reduce comfort and watch out for center wear
I have the AS3+ on my Model 3 performance and have been impressed with the wet and dry traction. Now I will just have to see how they do in the snow this winter.
Great video as usual. Amazing that they can sell the Corvette for that sort of money.. Unbelievable value.. But on the drive.. I'm in Perth, Western Australia.. If you left Perth & drove the same distance. you would still be in Western Australia... And there would be the rest of Australia to go...
Well, golly mate. He started in the Western U.S., ended up in the Western U.S. and still had the rest of the Western U.S. to go. Then you’d hit the Central U.S. and a whole lot later, the Eastern U.S. to go. What’s your point? Hate to break it to you, Australia < USA.
@@HowardOchs It was more on the size of the state. IE: Alaska is the biggest state for the USA. WA is 1.4 times as big. Or if you want to go mainland USA. WA is 4 times the size of Texas.. So my comment was how long you had to drive & still be in the same State, not country. Enjoy your day :)
I like the new vette but since I had the C5 when I turned 30 I never desired one after that. I’m getting the same tires installed on my 2023 M4 soon will see if they are up to the task.
I live mid alberta and think these tires will do well for our summer mustang car... seems like it can handle the small spring and fall snow falls and wet roads.. looks good to me
I use the similar class Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 for spring, summer and fall. I have used it a few times in light snow and it performed decently, but I can't fully trust it even though it is snow rated. I always switch back to my Nokian Hakkapeliittas for the BC winters in Canada. How does this compare to the Continentals?
Thank you for some US content. I enjoyed the video and it was very informative. I use A/S 3 for road driving in Washington DC (hotter and colder than the UK but not bitterly cold) and Cup 2 for the track on my C7 Corvette Grand Sport and for our climate it works really well. Also Corvettes are interesting as the ABS, stability and Performance Traction Management are calibrated for the tires (and type of brakes) the car comes with. So after market Cup 2s on a base Corvette can be frustrating.
I live in SoCal and just got a GLE 53 Coupe with Michelin P4S tires. I hit mammoth and big bear all season. Pretty sure I’m going to switch to these. Any thoughts.
Greetings, time for new tires for my C7 Grand Sport. In your opinion, run flats or regular. I'm more concerned about ride comfort than getting a flat, in which case I would call AAA. Thanks
These are my winter tires on my Focus RS. It never gets that cold in my area and hardly snows so true winter tires are overkill. Also it will sometimes spike up into the 60s and 70s during the day and be in the 30s at night when I get off work so winter tires would experience to much wear during the day and summer tires wouldn't have any grip at night. Summer time though I switch to Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires
With a tire that wide, on a car that light,low, stiff, and powerful... Even snow tires wouldn't make it "great" in the snow.. I'm pretty impressed that it actually moves..😉
These are not snow tires. Essentially, they're a PS4s with a compound that you can leave on in the COLD. Also, if you order your C8 with the Z51 package, and really who wouldn't?, you don't get the PS All Season 4s, you get the summer 4s.
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Never thought I'd see you in Utah. Welcome brother.
Fellow tire nerd that loves your reviews.
Hey Utah bro!
These tires are great in the summer, but I just drove in some heavy sleet and freezing rain and they performed beautifully. While as expected, the traction is less than studless snow tires, they offer great stability and predictability. I was able to get wild (only on purpose not unexpectedly) then reign it right back in on command. You will never stop on a dime in icy conditions, but I felt it stopped better than average for being on ice. They perform better all around than any other all seasons I’ve had. 10/10 would buy again.
These tires may be exceptional in 3 seasons, but you sir are exceptional in all seasons and all time! I’ve been trying to get you more subs with my friends. You are a gem! Keep up the good work! Much love from Canada
I appreciate that, thank you :)
Bigger UHP all season test coming soon, so subscribe for that! Also if you have any feedback on your own tyres, head over to www.tyrereviews.com and leave a review for all to see :D
Double also, if you watch one thing, skip to the traction part and enjoy the total car / landscape porn ❤️❤️
No need to skip anything here people ... great video from start to finish 👌🏼
As usual Jonathan, great content and review. Nothing to skip here.
Skip over tyre nerdiness??? Are you insane??
Is it 4% or 24% better dry braking? Because the caption at 2:48 says 24%?
Thanks for the great videos, keep it up!👌 No need to skip!
Greetings from Germany ✌️
@@korbinianfaltermeier193 4%, if they'd managed 24% I'd be mega impressed! Sorry for typo
EU All-Season tyres are All-Weather tires in the USA. USA All-Season tires are meant for cold weather but only a small amount of snow.
Welcome to Salt Lake City! I live in the Big Cottonwood Canyon above the city and love driving the canyon in the summer, but we see 400 inches of snowfall through the winter. It's great but tricky combination for tire choice. Thanks for the great videos!
"as the drive between LA and Salt Lake is basically a million miles"
m8, that's basically the same as going from Dallas, Texas to El Paso, Texas. European geography has you spoiled with short drives between great places lol.
If you drive 700 miles in the UK you're probably going to end up in the ocean.
If you drive 700 miles in The Netherlands going south, you’d be in France 😅😂
Lol width of Ontario Canada
If you drive 700 miles in Switzerland your trip will take you from Geneva to Davos then back to Geneva and then to Zurich, assuming you still have your driver license...
US size is comparable to EU, and EU countries are comparable to US states in size, that's how we need to think.
I’ve done this drive so many times in my life, that I literally know the exact spots in your video, that you are at haha
What a beautiful drive it is too! And I'm sure you notice there's about 4 different canyons spliced into "one" canyon drive
@@tyrereviews oh yeah. Many canyons through that drive. I’ve done it so much that it’s kind of boring to me haha, but there are other canyons in UT that are absolutely beautiful to drive, in all weather conditions.
I’m from San Diego, CA, and have been in UT for 4 years for school, and over the years, have done this drive a lot. Even just going to Vegas I’ve done quite a bit.
@@JacesOwnWorld Kolob Canyon. Gorgeous and often empty (from my experience). Always hit it up between Vegas and SLC.
Tbm mor minha u
10:48 32+ miles per gallon for a car like that is incredible.
Really impressive car
38 UK mpg, as USA gallon is smaller
Yes but it's a slippery car doing road speed you could probably do the run all in top gear on tickover
that includes driving at 80 mph, which makes the mpg even more impressive
My 2.0 boxer engine does 11mpg 😂 what a car
Great video! I live and work in SLC and have done that drive MANY times to visit family in LA. It’s fun to live 20 minutes from my favorite ski resort. I’m up there nearly every week 4-5 months of the year.
And….love the tires you chose to review. I run a dedicated winter wheel/tire combo November-March (Michelin X-ice)and those A/S the rest of the year. They are great for unpredictable Utah weather.
Dedicated summer tires wear out too fast and pick up gravel and throw it all over the place.
This is exactly why I use UHP All Seasons on my car. I live in the Midwestern U.S. and it can get cold in the fall but not generally too hot. Great for use in spring-fall.
The best tire review channel on YT! Just bought a set of Michelin Sport AS4 to replace Michelin Cross Climate tire worn prematurely and causing a terrible humming noise.
I love the conclusion for the snow behavior. It sums up perfectly. They are really good as long as the road surface is still visible. Which covers a lot of use-cases, like freshly plowed roads, or busy salty roads, which are slushy, instead of snowy. I really struggle on these surfaces with summer tires, but these all seasons are just fine. And this covers a LOT of the population, like everything between Canada and Florida, or Scandinavia and Spain, and the populated city areas.
I just replaced a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires (which, I LOVED) with these Pilot Sport AS 4 tires so that I can drive at lower temperatures without as much worry while also maintaining a lot of performance. While the PS4S were the best feeling and looking tires I've ever had on my cars (in appropriate temperatures), I'm also loving the feel of these PSAS4 tires so far. They will probably be what I stick with from now on. Great video!
This is exactly my experience with the Pilot Sport AS3+. It’s so good on anything compacted and relatively plowed snow even storms on roads but once the snow gets fresh and the tire can’t reach a firm surface it becomes pretty challenging sometimes. This tire was even really good for ice considering it’s an all season.
my a/s3+'s were hot garbage in the snow. What car did you have them on?
How did they perform in the summer though??
@@lonniemurray4742 2009 Civic Si in manual FWD. Since posting this I swapped to Vredestein Wintrac Pros for the winter as in ski lot conditions I was getting stuck too often with the AS3+ in deep snow.
@@justinstewart3248 summer were great as always. Great cornering grip and wet/dry traction. Only downer is the ride is pretty rough/stiff but a tradeoff I don’t mind.
@@lonniemurray4742 I had the A/S3 on my GTI and I feel the same. I switched to summer 4S and they have been fine in very light snow say 2 inch max . I have another car with winter tires, so I mainly use that one when I see snow. But if its say 20 degrees Fahrenheit and dry, its been fine for normal driving.
I can see these being really popular in Vancouver, Canada. It gets cold and wet and slushy where they would outshine a summer tire and it rarely gets the harsher winter climates of Eastern Canada with massive amounts of snow that would make the tires fail. Definitely will be in consideration for me in the future when my winters/summers need replacing. The rim protector and nice sidewalls are such a blessing and I wish more manufacturers put it into consideration for their tires. It would be features like that that would make me consider that tire over a comparable competitor.
Grip first, but when grip is equal, lets go for looks :D
I’m in the Vancouver area, I got some PSAS 3 plus. They work well in all our conditions
@@rohinhans7819 I did consider those when I bought my car last fall but I didn't feel like the the technology in the tire was enough for my sporty performance oriented sedan, so I went with full winter tires. Luckily I made the right choice for that winter because we had that snowmagedon even though I didn't think it was that bad. I would get these for my regular daily driver though.
Great review! I think these tires make more sense than the PS4S for a street car; better life span, they don't pick up stones as much and they're cheaper, my buddy runs PS A/S3+ on his 996 911 for those reasons. Totally agree with your assessment about them being a 3 season tire, if you live in Ontario or other jurisdiction with similar or worse winters you really need dedicated winter tires.
In bc Canada, I was using my ps a/s 3 plus and it was fine, but out in Ontario they definitely wouldn’t work for winter
@@rohinhans7819 You should prob be fine in the bigger cities...
@@NS416 maybe, but even here in BC's bigger city's get completely covered a few times a year. To the point where you need winter tires. Would think it's much more frequent out East
Prefer to not to take chances. Pilot sport 4s in the spring, summer and fall. Pilot Alpin PA4's for the winter. That is what i use for daily driving my c4s cab. Works great.
Makes no sense to me.. You would be better off with the traditional Sommer/winter tire swap..
When you swap anyway.. Why a all season tire?
@@Kevin-rf9sx since when is the Alpin PA4 an(not "a") all season tire? It is a winter tire.
Probably because there isn‘t that much snow where he lifes...
That's a great solution :)
@@Jon-nz3dm aahh ouch... i thought the 4s is a 4 Season tire ^^
The 6 dislikes are from people running Pirelli’s 😉
Great video Johnathan. A very superb tire. It’s all crazy that your drove a nearly 500 HP car, 2,000 miles, and got 25 MPG. Well done!
Thank you :)
You're spot on. We need this tire in UK (in a wide range of sizes) where 'all season' could be the default choice. Great video!
Hate to pick, but if you’re a Brit then it’s spelt “tyre”
@@dj_efk hahaha Sometimes I don't even notice auto correct. Or auto-yank in this case
@@dj_efk Hate to pick but if you too are a Brit, then you will know that the words “the” and “its” cannot be combined together to make a logical sentence...
It appears the PS4 A/S is quite a tire, but the one on the Corvette is a bit of a ringer. According to Michelin, the Corvette tire compound, construction, and tread pattern is different from the rest of the line. Good description of the differences was given by the Michelin marketing guy on a Tire Rack video. That being said, these will be going on my Accord 2.0T soon. Thanks for the great report, and I wish could get a Corvette too.
You are correct, and I've tested the RT version since this video and it's very good!
Ohh yeah, been looking forward to this one mate! #tyreporn
You'll be sad we don't get it :(
@@tyrereviews Thanks for the video. Would you tell us what is the UTQG treadwear rating ? I saw it, 540, It is really good, higher than most summer tires for only about 200-300
@@rondhole Good edit :) Yeah, it's very high which is why the MPS4S wlll bet better in the dry and wet when warmer :)
@@tire_reviews it is not enough for people who live in high snow area, but enough for most Western USA and Canada, below Kentucky/Tennessee, Western Europe including Germany, and France except Apls area. Germany required 3peaks symbol for winter tires after 2024 although Germany are mostly wet in winter, not snowing except Hamburg or Berlin. Fortunately, the Law only say in icy conditions, not by month like Austria. Winter tire is a waste of money, noisy, wear fast in aspalt, and soft like gelly. I believe, we only need US touring all seasons tires for most people that only get snow 1-5 days in a yesr.
@@tyrereviews They are making a RH drive version. Aussie & Japan have gotten theirs so you should too. Blessings from Bay Area California
I love UHP AS tires. Even in summer, they are better than most summer tires, only summer UHP tires can beat them by a small margin. I was only 1/10th away from my car’s official 0-60 time.
Sure they are NOT snow tires at all. They are only good enough to get you home in case of a half inch surprise snowfall. If you are careful. Better than summer tires, but nowhere near real snow tires. But many of us are living in populated areas, where roads are plowed overnight, and on the 2 days a year when we have heavy snow, I can just stay at home. And these are the best in rain and/or cold.
I’d put 60k miles into a Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric AS set in my Mustang, and I was very satisfied with it. I just replaced it to these Michelins (that’s why I’m watching these videos), which has even higher ratings. Looking forward to how they perform.
Update: just after writing the above comment, I did my first acceleration test. Temperatures just below freezing, road surface is dry. I have 320HP on the rear wheels. No revving the engine, just wide open throttle from idle after a red light. Not even a squeak, the grip is very nice. On this performance level, I see no drawbacks whatsoever compared to a dedicated summer tire. I would probably need 500+ HP to justify Pilot 4S for the summer.
YES!!! I have been waiting for this tire. I have been running this tire on my IS250 for 3 months now
How do you find it?
@@tyrereviews I didn't get to test it for snowy conditions but so far it has good grip in the dry especially in the rain.
@@julliangranada7221 Thanks :D if you get the time please leave a review on www.tyrereviews.co.uk/submit.htm?match=Michelin-Pilot-Sport-All-Season-4
Ever since your latest comparison of UHP all season tires, I've been waiting to see the promised winter comparison of them, mostly to see how the Continental ExtremeContact DWS06+ handles compacted snow compared to the other choices. It rains a lot in western Oregon, so Conti tires have always been a favorite of mine, but I'm moving to Michigan and want an all season tire that can handle more than a dusting of snow.
Beautiful video! I will say there's an important caveat in that the tread pattern on the 'Vette-specific AS4 is pretty different from the standard AS4. I wonder how that affects behavior.
I noticed that and was searching the comments to see if anyone else noticed. Fair question!
Thank you for pointing out that important detail ; that snow footage at 9:00 is terrible performance for a All Season Tire. I'm now reconsidering this tire for my Audi S5.
Surely this would be an amazing tyre for the UK.
I got to drive that same setup for an hour at NCM Motorsports Park, phenomenal tire in the heat, with great wear characteristics to boot, and if it functions well below 40f that's just magical
:D
Am I the only one who noticed how much weight was added to the front left rim for balance? 105g is YUUUGE :D
You should win a geek award, I didn't even see that!
I did indeed notice that.
For the majority of us who have hotter cars, this tire and it’s predecessor give about 90% of a summer tire on public roads, especially if you are slicing and dicing back roads. A great product
TF is a "hotter car"?
Oh my favourite channel by far. Always link your videos when people are trying to argue what tyres are better. Please test the Nankang ar1 against big brand tyres like cup 2, trofeo r, r888r etc
That should be coming next year :)
Love your stuff! Always found tires amazing, and this channel is the best. Informative w/ beautiful camerawork. It was fun seeing my local haunts (SLC and all the canyons) on a UK based channel. Next time you're here, you can borrow my car for any new tire (or tyre, lol) test!
You live in a great city :)
Fantastic review - and the bit at the end reminded me not to have TOO high of expectations in the snow. Much appreciated!
Kind of a funny update; 2 days after installing these I got stuck in a snowstorm. I've been a big believer of winter tires for years, and this experience reenforced that. I had what I'd consider to be "average winter driving problems" - gotta go slow, a lot of sliding while trying to brake, stability control doing its best. As opposed to proper winter tires, where all these were virtual non-issues. The dream of one set of tires for the whole year... still not here.
Great point to the video. I used to always disregard all season tires, but realizing I mostly don’t experience any snow during the winter, I’m thinking an all season for the winter and a summer tire for the summer makes sense :)
I was a two-set-of-tires dude but then storage became an issue for me so I've watched a few reviews on CrossClimate and realized that, in my country, snow have become rarirty yet rain and temperature fluctations have gone wild. Now, I have them on two cars all year round and I am very satisfied with them. Added benefit of longevity since my mileage is, sadly, above local average.
I like the plan of all season for winter and summer tyre for summer, if you're in a climate that gets cold but not much snow!
What an epic road trip, car & tyre review video all rolled into one 👍🏼 Well done that man 👏🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@tyrereviews ... brought beck some great memories of driving the same route (I15) but in two halves ( Santa Monica to LV flowed by LV to Salt Lake City) in a brand new V8 Mustang 👍🏼
Great review! While I do run dedicated summer and winter tires on my G8, it's nice to see a tire that would work well in colder but less snowy areas, as yeah, summer tires are terrible once it gets cold.
Thanks Jonathan, for another interesting and useful tire review.
I think you've nailed it precisely on how well Michelin has balanced and extracted the best handling and wear characteristics that are normally mutually exclusive on tires. I noticed this on previous reviews on other Michelin tires and experienced it myself on the PS4S tires that I got on my 370Z. Your excellent review of the PS4S was a principal reason for why I got that tire. I'm looking forward to future summer ultra high performance tire reviews ... if these darn PS4Ss will ever wear down😉, or maybe I just need to do some fast canyon carving on the coastal roads here in northern California in order to help them along.
I'm glad I'm useful, and yeah the wear on Michelin tyres is insane!
I love your videos! Excellent job as usual. It was really fun to see a video in my home state where I recognize everything. I frequently drive up Big Cottonwood Canyon. That is a fun canyon with a sporty car.
What a place Utah is!
One of your greatest video ever!
The location and the car helped a lot. TBH I watched only for this 😂.
I thought I was a tyre nerd but did not knew about this UHP AS tyre, amazing what tyre technology can do this days.
Great content, as usual!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love this kind of tire technology. This UHP all-season performs better than several middling summer performance tires in dry and wet conditions above 40° Fahrenheit. It truly does everything, with even decent snow capability. The Michelin PSAS4 and the Continental DWS 06 Plus really have changed the game for UHP all/season tires. I have the DWS 06 Plus on my Mazda3 and they’re great, but I wonder if I missed out on some outright dry grip or steering feel compared to the Michelin. Though I know the wet and snow performance of the Continental will be superior I don’t get much of that weather in SoCal.
Just went with these for my mustang GT..I like driving my car in very cold temps(not snow) so I didn't go with summer tire. Hope I made the right choice!
Holy grail of allseason tyres. Big like for this video, as I told you on chat please come back to Europe with this kind of tire.
I'd really love to. I think they'd have to be adapted for EUrope (more wet grip, less tread life) but I think there's a market
I asked this question in June and the video is here!!!! Massive thanks
I got the 3+ a few years ago and that weekend it dumped 3' of snow, had no issue getting around, but then again they were new.
So glad you did this test! I am in the US and used to live in UT. UHP tires are my choice, even though I prefer Conti and their cheaper General.
Torn between these and the DWS06 plus tires. These supposedly make more noise, are heavier, and cost more. The Conti's supposedly are a little less precise in turn in and have a narrower tread size for size....but a better ride. How would you compare the two...and is the dws06 plus better in snow or not....your stopping stuff shows the Michelin to be better but others suggest the lateral issues with the Micheling (turning) are pretty concerning in snow.....
Torn... Great video. Car is an F-type awd with 20" wheels....to use all winter in the mid Atlantic USA where we see only 2-4 days of snow.
amazing in depth review of some tyres I really don't think anyone pays enough attention to them for any car they drive.
Thanks :D
I think a lot of people misunderstand the point of an all season tire, it's not really made to give you great snow traction. The real reason for those tires is for people who live in places that get winter but not a huge amount of snow, making dedicated winter tires impractical. Basically what he was talking about in terms of canyon driving.
That fits my experience. when you have a sporty car, your living in an area where the streets are mostly damp or dry in the winter at temperatures around 0°C and you don't need to drive it every day I can recommend to drive a summer tire in the summer and an all season in winter, because the all season just is the better compromise. Also if the car has AWD traction is not a problem even on streets with thick snow.
The all season has a better road feel and as long as the roads are not snowy it even has more grip than a normal winter tire.
Love this and all your content. Tires are so underrated
Thank you :)
One comment worth making - the Corvette OEM PS4AS is slightly less geared towards actual snow and more towards providing a reasonable driving experience in very cold temps. The actual PS4AS should do better in snow by a fair bit than the Corvette versions 🤞
7:10 that music is one of Topher’s soundsystem test tracks from his POV reviews.
Fun to see all my familiar haunts. You sure picked the perfect time to visit Utah for this test.
Very lucky with the snow!
@@tyrereviews I'll say, ski season starts in less than a week
Like the honesty of this tire's capabilities in varying conditions.
We seem to agree. I drive a Scion FRS. It came new with primacy HP tires. Made in France. Very satisfactory they were and lasted 48,000 miles. >Replaced them with Pilot Sport 3+ tires, Y spec. Hated those tires as the sidewalls were too soft. All the wonderful sharp steering response of the previous primacy HP tires no longer existed.< Went back then to another set of Primacy Hp tires yet one size bigger. Those were made in Spain. The made in Spain tires had great handling/steering feel, yet were much harder riding than the original tires. Switched them out for a set of Pilot Sport 4s tires in also the bigger size...now on the car. These are a great compromise between the other two. Still slightly hard riding yet no where near as hard as the Primacy HP tires made in Spain. I have not yet figured out how much difference there is in ride quality between sizes. Original tires were 215/45/17. Now using 225/45/17. The 4s tires do retain the handling/steering feel of the Primacy HP tires.
Have you experienced same model, same size tire, yet made in a different country, varying in stiffness or hardness of rubber content ?
Good information, if you ever get the time feel free to leave some reviews at www.tyrereviews.com :)
As for different manu countries, unless the tyres are intended for different markets, or an OE fitment, they should be the same. And Michelin are probably the best at making them the same. So it might be the larger sized HP were an OE fitment somewhere, intended for a different market to the OE tyres, or just one of those weird things with a larger size like an extra ply was introduced
Nice work! Do always feel you're being honest in your reviews too.
I appreciate that!
I see that corvette going the exact same way as the Nissan GT-R. When they first came out they were around £60,000 in the UK but now are nearly twice the price because they are just that good and sold a lot.
Great video even if filming yourself! This tyre connects two seeingly opposite quallities and it just shows how far the technology has came. Of course it has limitations but this is still a sensible option for certain people. Looking foward for more content! :)
That's a great summary :D
As a UK driver, I'd probably go for this. As it's not available I've opted for the Cross Climate 2 - I drive a Passat Alltrack estate so hardly a performance vehicle. Gets us to the Alps fine in the winter, and the tyres also help out when we get a couple weeks snow and slush
Brilliant review and imagery as always. Great job!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I use Firestone Indy 500 summer tires starting in March for the last 4 years on my 16 S550 GT and drives perfectly fine even in -15+ temps! It will loose some tire pressure which my portable inflator can easily refill and amazed how well it does! I still can't believe how good these tires considering it's going to last me 8 months each year for 4 years for a set of tires that only cost $1100CAD!
I hope to test them one day! Feel free to leave a review over at www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Firestone/Firehawk-Indy-500.htm if you get the time :D
I'm in Seattle where Fall/Winter weather is typically above 40F with occasional days/week that drops below 40, very infrequently with snow. I continue to buy Performance Summer tires because if on the rare occasion it did snow, I just wouldn't drive. My understanding is that ALL SEASON tires above 40F, always compromise wet/dry traction/handling and wet/dry braking. On less common days where it's wet and below 40F I'd drive a little more conservative. Under these circumstances would you agree that the Michelin PS4S would fit my use case best rather than the Michelin PS AS4? I do also have another set of wheels with some AS RFT tires but would only put them on in extreme cold weather where I absolutely had to drive, which again would be pretty rare.
As long as you can avoid snow, I think the PS4S will be simliar around the low 40s but obviously the AS will start to perform better as temps drop
I'm in Seattle as well. The all season tires are superior in the rain over the PS4. I got to drive both side by side in the rain. I have an extra set of ps4 for summer. I'll keep the all seasons on until June 1.
There were no Issues with the quality. Enjoyed that!
Thank you: )
Great video! I just bought a set yesterday for the 2015 Lexus GS350 AWD. I'm ready for all the NC weather! 😊
I can’t wait to get a set of AS4 😄 still got plenty tread on my AS3+ as of now
Let me know how you find them :D
hopefully this drops AS3 prices as i love mine !
Same
Got my as3 replaced with as4 on fiesta st. Hands down better tire. Road comfort wise. Turn in is better and i think the rubber is better compounds feels sticky to touch. My as3 lasted 26,000 miles they were cracking at 20,000 and chunks tearing at 25,000. Highly abused i rip my car every day to and from work. I dont drive in snow as i have a truck but that ability to grip at 30 degrees is needed in newengland i opted for the as4 over going r888 because of this reason. The toyos would have sucked in the wet and cold which is like half of the year so no brainer. Plus the fiesta is more rally than street anyways a all seasons probably more fitting
This is a great video and you picked such a prime location. Well done.
Another awesome video!!! I'm in Utah and live just down the street from Cottonwood Canyon were you were at, definitely a beautiful canyon! Also, driving on the salt flats is super fun. Keep the fantastic content coming. I would love to see this tire versus the Conti DWS and General Gmax AS05 and see all the data in dry and snow.
What a pretty canyon! You have to crawl up it slowly because the speed limit is so low but it's very pretty for filming!
Great video! Been trying to figure out which all seasons to get when not using winters. You made my choice.
I am glad you had a good time in the US. It really is a beautiful country. I run Pirelli UHP all seasons on my WRX, traction is not an issue even in deep fresh snow.
I drove on Goodyear Eagle F1s (Max performance summer tire) from Canada to Texas many times over 5 years during the winter, pretty much matched what you're saying for the Pilot Sports. During those trips I hit 2 blizzards and one freezing rain storm. Like on the Vette they sucked in the snow but they did "ok" on pure ice, I gather due to the softer rubber compound. Not sure why you'd say UHP summers are bad in colder wet (not snow), the F1's were not bad at all. Just my opinion though, did over 10,000 miles in those "off" conditions. Good review BTW and beauitful car well, ... except the color ;)
Cold and wet uhp summer tyres get really sketchy as the rubber hardens dramatically, hence these being an ok middle ground
@@tyrereviews Would be interesting to compare durometer results from both types of tires at freezing temps.
80 mph (on the interstate) must feel painfully slow in that car.
But returns pretty good gas mileage :D
@@tyrereviews pretty impressive !
Usually speed limit is 80, everyone is doing 90+. You are not breaking laws if you are not caught. No speed cameras here.
@@jasonsong86 You are still breaking the law though xD
@@dufonrafal At least in the US. If you're going with the flow of traffic, the police leave you alone. Going too much slower than the flow of traffic is dangerous to you and everyone else. Just don't be last
so an uhp all season for spring-fall then winter tires for winter. sounds like a great combo
Pretty much!
I have AS3, great ties. I can only image AS4 will be even better.
You drive it in snow? I assume a RWD with all seasons isn't going to do as well as a FWD or 4WD/AWD on all seasons?
Surely this tyre is perfect for the UK. Michellin please bring it here (in 225/40R18 and 245/35R18)! Take my money!
I autocrossed on the 215/45R17 version of these for half a year. They have amazing wear qualities and at the end of the season they show very little wear.
Astonishing work, as always!
:D
Yes, why isn’t this type of tyre available in Europe, a dam good question? Similarly the Continental Extreme Contact DWS range??? Thank you, I enjoy your video shows immensely. I never buy a set of tyres without watching you latest Tyre Reviews, keep up the tremendous good work. I share your reviews with many of my colleagues and friends who drive HPV’s and UHP’s. Thank You....... 👍
Lets see what the future brings :)
Did the school run this morning, car starts shouting at me that i have a flat. look at both my front tyres and both my Pilot Sport 4S tyres have screws in them and not just one screw. aarrhhhhhhh. I live in the south of England but these dont seem to be available yet???? is that right. I so what a set
Sadly these won't be coming to Europe any time soon :/
I put these on my Accord V6 (Front drive, about 280hp). They're great even in sub 40 fahrenheit (as you said), but they are insanely grippy for an all-season. The unintended byproduct has been that they don't chirp when you hit the gas, and I've been finding a bit less torque steer off the line.
Awesome :) If you fancy leaving a review over at www.tyrereviews.com that would be great :)
5:14 When you say "you don't get information that front axle is about to slide", can you describe what you mean? How do you feel this? Maybe make a video about it? Thanks
Usually you can feel via the steering wheel when the tyre is near the limit of grip, with these, not as much
It's the tactile feedback from the steering wheel, some tires do give better feedback than other tires.
Why is that my tyres 'seem' to handle better running pressures higher than the door placard specification?
Higher pressure may make the car feel more responsive, but you will lose some traction.
As Arthur said, however a few extra psi won't give up much grip and toul have a nicer steering feel, but it will reduce comfort and watch out for center wear
I have the AS3+ on my Model 3 performance and have been impressed with the wet and dry traction. Now I will just have to see how they do in the snow this winter.
Let me know!
Good luck ordering or finding a base C8 Corvette $60,000. Dream on.
I’ve done this drive many years ago and it was a great drive!
Great video as usual. Amazing that they can sell the Corvette for that sort of money.. Unbelievable value..
But on the drive.. I'm in Perth, Western Australia.. If you left Perth & drove the same distance. you would still be in Western Australia...
And there would be the rest of Australia to go...
Well, golly mate. He started in the Western U.S., ended up in the Western U.S. and still had the rest of the Western U.S. to go. Then you’d hit the Central U.S. and a whole lot later, the Eastern U.S. to go. What’s your point? Hate to break it to you, Australia < USA.
@@HowardOchs It was more on the size of the state. IE: Alaska is the biggest state for the USA. WA is 1.4 times as big. Or if you want to go mainland USA. WA is 4 times the size of Texas.. So my comment was how long you had to drive & still be in the same State, not country. Enjoy your day :)
Are you a keen to compare and contrast this tire against crossclimate 2 ? From a dailidricer standpoint of view??
I really want to do that
I like the new vette but since I had the C5 when I turned 30 I never desired one after that. I’m getting the same tires installed on my 2023 M4 soon will see if they are up to the task.
This is an INSANE idea. I’m in northern Alberta... hard to believe this is possible, especially where it’s winter 9 months a year. ☺️
I live mid alberta and think these tires will do well for our summer mustang car... seems like it can handle the small spring and fall snow falls and wet roads.. looks good to me
Oh yes great review again
Such a variety of places! Good shots 🤤🤤🤤
How does this tire compare to the Continental DWS 06+, specifically in the comfort ride quality segment?
I use the similar class Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 for spring, summer and fall. I have used it a few times in light snow and it performed decently, but I can't fully trust it even though it is snow rated. I always switch back to my Nokian Hakkapeliittas for the BC winters in Canada.
How does this compare to the Continentals?
As far as I know, the Conti has better snow performance but worse dry and wet
Currently running the michelin alpine, superb tire.
Thank you for some US content. I enjoyed the video and it was very informative. I use A/S 3 for road driving in Washington DC (hotter and colder than the UK but not bitterly cold) and Cup 2 for the track on my C7 Corvette Grand Sport and for our climate it works really well. Also Corvettes are interesting as the ABS, stability and Performance Traction Management are calibrated for the tires (and type of brakes) the car comes with. So after market Cup 2s on a base Corvette can be frustrating.
I live in SoCal and just got a GLE 53 Coupe with Michelin P4S tires. I hit mammoth and big bear all season. Pretty sure I’m going to switch to these. Any thoughts.
Greetings, time for new tires for my C7 Grand Sport. In your opinion, run flats or regular. I'm more concerned about ride comfort than getting a flat, in which case I would call AAA. Thanks
Do you suppose the C8 would have done somewhat better in the snow with the AS 4's if it had AWD?
Can you do a "DWS06 Plus" video similar to this with an equivalent Mercedes, BMW, Audi or Porsche
Maybe Acura loans you a NSX 🙏🏾
Or Audi the S8
These are my winter tires on my Focus RS. It never gets that cold in my area and hardly snows so true winter tires are overkill. Also it will sometimes spike up into the 60s and 70s during the day and be in the 30s at night when I get off work so winter tires would experience to much wear during the day and summer tires wouldn't have any grip at night.
Summer time though I switch to Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires
With a tire that wide, on a car that light,low, stiff, and powerful... Even snow tires wouldn't make it "great" in the snow.. I'm pretty impressed that it actually moves..😉
These are not snow tires. Essentially, they're a PS4s with a compound that you can leave on in the COLD. Also, if you order your C8 with the Z51 package, and really who wouldn't?, you don't get the PS All Season 4s, you get the summer 4s.