I run DWS-06's in the winter and ECS in the summer. Those DWS's are nuts in the snow and hardly show wear, and I've never hydroplaned on the ECS's while outrunning the wipers, in a miata... Amazing tires from Conti, super excited to try those new ECF's in 225's!
Was super curious how the ECS did in the rain on a Miata. I have a ND Miata that came with super low quality/cheap tires on it that slip in the wet and dry. Just bought the conti ecs and am super excited to feel them
I just bought a new Miata RF GT and I am torn between these two tires. Because here in Alabama during winter it gets near freezing, albeit very dry, every day for most of the winter. The summers are extremely hot and rainy for the most part. Basically just curious if the DWS do better in dry cold
I put a full year on DWS 06s in my NC Miata. They were great in snow for an all-season, though admittedly, the rears still had new tire smell when the snow hit. When summer came, I basically melted them off. That's probably being a bit too unkind, but one of my fronts is about to show chords at 13 months and 25k miles. Probably half of that wear happened in the last 4 months. They were fast enough to keep up with my buddy's Mustang. I just ordered a set of ECS 02s, and I'm excited to see just how outrageous the body roll will be.
Follow-up. I burned the ECS off my front in less than 6 months of driving. They're a bit faster than DWS for sure, but MUCH sharper. At the limit, the DWS start to feel like pudding and the ECS feel angry, somehow. The body roll reached "bump stops on smooth roads" levels, which I tacked with cubic money (Ohlins!) I ended up putting Blizzak WS90s on for the winter, which made the car EPIC for exactly one day of blizzard rally touge dorifto action, but they drove like used condoms in the dry and wet, at ANY temperature. The car was a UFO on snow and ice, but trash on anything else. I almost crashed a couple times because, even at 30F in the wet, the ECS and DWS absolutely curb stomp the Blizzaks and my normal pace through intersections was beyond their limit. They're going back on this winter, but my goal is to destroy them. They're great fun for drifting because they make their best grip while sideways (even dry). If they still exist in April, I'm turning them into smoke. Back to DWS for winters after that.
They've already said it is "endurance focused" so it won't be a one lap wonder like the Yoko A052. But it will likely be a lot more expensive than the current endurance king, the Hankook R-S4.
My experience has been that even a more budget UHP tire like the Indy 500 or General G-Max RS is an improvement in dry handling over premium UHP all season like the PS AS3 and RE980 A/S.
First of all, Indy's would easily outperform most A/S in the dry because they're a summer compound. lol The Indy's do absolutely terrible in the wet though. I live in the PNW where it's rainy 80% of the year and it was a chore keeping grip with those vs DWS06 / PS3/3+/4 and summers like ExtremeContact Sports & PS4S. Both those summers out performing the Indy's in the dry as well. Indy's are decent in the dry. But for just $100 more in total cost. You can buy a much better tire like the ExtremeContact Sport. Tires are arguably the most important part of a car as it's what is between you & the road. If you enjoy driving and pushing cars. Pinching pennies on tires will only serve to have massive compromises and increase your risk factor exponentially. It's very much worth paying that extra $100.
@@Peylix agreed. That's why I have pilot sport all season 4 on my Accord. I lose a bit to the dedicated summer tires, but they're arguably the best out there... For now
@@Peylix The drawback of the ECS is that it has softer sidewalls and the driver might lose some steering feedback and road feel. The Potenza S007A had the same rigid sidewalls as the Indy 500s without the weak wet performance. It seems like the newer Potenza Sport has softer sidewalls more like the PS4S or ECS unfortunately, though thankfully perhaps not quite as soft. If North America does get the Potenza RE004 as a MkII version of the Indy 500, that should improve the weakness in the wet while still having the rigid sidewalls like the older model Potenzas like the S007A or RE003 (Indy 500).
@@TassieLorenzo @peylix my budget UHP tyre is nito 555 G2 , not sure how this will be for summer , wet & 5 degree celcuis, i live in georgia its mostly summer , wet, but winter stays for 4 months without snow, do u think nito will help? or should i go for DW6+ , but don't want to loose comfort..
Can we talk about how Jon is flying around a track constantly squealing the tires and riding the limit and still can give us an incredibly in depth review of the fine detail between tires
Would love to see the pilot sport cup 2 (240) connect vs the extreme contact force. Knowing this channel and all the hints you dropped this is already in the works. My prediction the ECF will have better wear and will be better in the wet whereas the cup 2 will have slightly better dry performance. Cant wait for your in depth testing.
Fantastic comparison. Thank you so much. I was super curious about the new Conti Extreme Contact Force. Definitely will be an option for Lucky Dog and Lemons endurance racers that face rain and don't want to risk using Hankook RS4's (fantastic tire, tread life, will ruin your day in rain). Also great option for the 'wet' set of tires for die hard autocrossers.
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I have the DWS06 on my '18 BRZ and the difference in cold weather and snow compared to the stock primacy is night and day. Plus it is more comfortable and more stable. I daily drive my car year round with these tires. I'll be purchasing the DWS06 + when it's time to replace these tires.
Great comparison! I have the Extreme Contact Sports as well as the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4s...the difference isn't as much as folks make it out to be/the UHP AS tires really work well.
there is no good video to make this comment (and thanks for the great content btw!) but; I realized that if your tires wear slow enough they dry rot, then you probably should be able to use how much tread was left and its rating to (at least within brand?) pick a stickier tire that would need to be replaced around the time it would start to degrade/rot (6/7 years?). For me, I have had more than a couple cars that are 20+ years old with less than 30k miles on them and end up having 9+ year old good tread depth, hard cracking tires. Also have cars that can see 30k+ miles a year. The 91 Corvette with under 50k miles tires will dry rot, the 18 BRZ with 115k miles is on its 3rd set of summer and 2nd set of winter tires.
Hi, why wouldn't you guys be getting these tires in Europe? What's so different over there compared to the US? I mean I guess the harshest wingers are colder in the Northern US and the hottest summer days can be hotter in the south of US, could tjat be why? I always see different types/models of tires for Europeans.
Would like to see a comparison between the Sport and the new SportContact 7 which you have now reviewed. The SportContact 7 seemed to be the new standard in the UHP Sumer Tyre category.
Ok now I feel better lol I thought I was going crazy when I couldn't push the DWS06 past 45mph safely in the wet. (Just realized I bought the prior version and not the Plus*). Definitely going with a summer tire next March. I'll probably go with the Bridgestone Potenza, just not feeling the soft side wall of the Continentals although it's a great tire. Just not for me, I do too many miles and on a staggered setup I get half the life in the rear.
How does the sidewall stiffness correlate to how many miles you get out of a tire on your vehicle? Treadwear is often more a function of rubber compound than internal construction, though it is still a factor on some vehicles. Softer sidewalls tend to make a tire nicer to live with everyday.
@@waffle911 I prefer a stiffer side wall for handling. I didn't correlate tire wear to side walls. I said, "...just not feeling the soft side wall of the Continentals although a great tire." (Period, theirs a period there) I went on to say "Just not for me, I do too many miles and on a staggered setup I get half the life in the rear." Meaning, if I'm going to continue driving as much as I do, I want my ride to be the way I prefer. At no point was I correlating tread life and side wall. I was talking about my preferred ride quality especially when doing many miles. The DWS06 move around especially on a staggered setup in the rain. Even the guy in the review had a similar experience, the Conti's lean toward oversteer and with a soft side wall, you get a bit more body roll too and they feel unnerving like almost no feedback to what the car is doing, making me more a reactive driver than proactive driver. Maybe this will help you understand. My friend preferred a soft comfy bed where I preferred a firm stiff bed and pillow. She liked the feeling of sinking into the bed and her pillow. I was the total opposite, I even tend to fold my pillows for more firmness.
@@waffle911 I also drive for a living, been doing 60k to 100k per year for the past 3yrs. I've never used Continental tires before. My parents do. They use them on a Cadillac and seem to like them. I drive a Benz and this being my first experience with Conti's I don't like them in the real world. On paper their an excellent tire. It's different once they're on your car and you're driving on many different roads. Something else I hate is they do horrible on grooved roads and bridges that have grates. That bit of slip in the rear coming and going across the Bay Bridge is not cool. The tires I had previously were the Continental ContiProContact MO and those were actually better in stability worn out than my DWS06. I'm not saying the DWS06 are bad, they are amazing in fact. I'm willing to trade off comfort for driver feedback. I've tried a lot of tires from a lot of brands on at least 12 cars within the past 3yrs. I know you don't know me, but I'm 36 and I've been driving since I was 12.
quick note may be different in the UK but over here we call that Continental Extreme Contact Sport tire a Max Performance tire, and the new Force tire is considered a extreme summer tire i.e track days.
@@tyrereviews interesting 🤔 I've just always used tire rack and notice that's how they grouped the tires. I am still on the fence if I should choose the Conti ECS or ECF. I do daily my car and I have been known to hit triple digits in the rain I'm just not 100% confident in these new Force tires if they will be able to hold up in those kinds of conditions? Or if I were to use those tires I would have to be a lot more careful whenever it rained. I do like taking the car to the mountains and even if it does rain I still like to drive the car hard! THANKS FOR THE REVIEW!
I think you tested the Goodyear Exhilerate, which I'm interested in. If you had to choose one , which one would you go with the Extreme Contact dws06+ or the Goodyear for good dry and wet handling
Any reason why Continental has completely different names and offerings for their tyres in the US and Europe? I think none of these tyres are available in Europe.
I'm surprised the summer was 2.1 seconds faster than the all-season in the wet but only 1.3 seconds faster in the dry. I would have guessed the opposite - do you think that's common comparing summer and all-season?
I'm really glad that you made this video, great info as always! I need new tires for a 2001 Camaro SS and I have it narrowed down to either the Continental ExtremeContact Sport 02 and the Continental ExtremeContact DWS06. I live in Minnesota and we get pretty bad winters but I only drive the car in the Fall and summer when there is no snow and ice so winter traction is not important to me but it would be nice to drive the car sometimes when it is a little colder. I'm leaning towards the Continental ExtremeContact Sport 02 I know you said the cross over point it about 45 degrees but do you know how cold of a temperature I could drive the sport 02 in if there is no ice and snow? Or do you think I should go with the DWS06?
Thanks, for the DWS06+ I've heard the side walls are too soft. Also have you notice how they wear? Does the rim size I have 20 inch have an impact how the sidewall feels.
A very track-focused tyre feeling is a tempting poison indeed. Even more than the grip itself. Just switched from them to regular UHP tyres and I'm already repented on the choice, I'm missing that sharp, crisp feeling of the steering
Hi. Ever think about doing a review for EVs because i have a Tesla model 3 performance and I'm starting my research for my next tires. Since EVs are heavier and the handling and power delivery is so different, would you do a test with EVs in mind? I suggest to test the Model 3 Performance because it is the most popular and the Track mode can help test the tires closer to the limit. Thanks.
Would you get a Michelin PSAS4, Continental DWS06+, or Michelin CC2 for a 500hp EV where driving dynamics matter but range (low rolling resistance) and comfort (noise) matters as well. All 3 choices will do OK with the winter season. Leaning towards the continental or michelin CC2 due to comfort and LRR but wanted an expert opinion
@@tyrereviews so CC2 may be out if it's not LRR...do you have rolling resistance numbers for the 3 tires? I haven't been able to find it in your reviews Current tire is a Pirelli Pzero summer.
None of them are; the first two were developed specifically for North America, and the track tire is so super brand new it just hasn't reached Europe yet.
Would the Continental Extreme Contact DWS06+ be a good choice for a 2016 Audi A8 with 20" rims for comfort As there are not many Grand touring tires in that size And you confirmed here that they ride well I love the fact that these will have stellar braking in dry and wet vs Touring tires by about 30% in the wet and 10% in the dry I watch all your videos But, What would you put on a 2016 Audi A8 with 20" rims for comfort? Impossible to get a used A8 with 19" tires as everyone ordered the 20" option I guess My car comes with the 265/65r20" but the Continental Extreme Contact DWS06+ doesn't come in that size, so I would have to get the 275/40r20" Those tires are 28.7" tall giving me 4.35" of sidewall vs the 28" tall 19" 255/45r19" giving me 4.5" that should soften things up Making chasing down 19" rims pointless for a extra 0.15 inch of sidewall I thought they may be to tall, but the car has a 21" option 275/35r221 that are 28.5 " tall Also when I priced them out the 275/40r20" are only about $20.00 a each more than the 255/45r19" I love your channel
Had the Conti DWS from this test for about 6 Colorado winters. Surprisingly very remarkable in terms of ice and light snow traction. Great evacuation for slush. Obviously not going to be great for deep snow, but given the car the tires were on we’d never have taken it out in the midst of a storm anyway. But with these you could confidently set out anytime after the first lows do their thing.
Very interesting content again! May I just suggest something? I thought it would be a good thing to show us a constant picture and/or name of the tyre we're talking about, at the side of the screen, because at a moment I was wondering what tyre we were talking about. Now beside that, I really enjoyed the video, once again! Keep up the great work!
@@reeisessit Yup. Porsche doesn’t do it and some manufacturers at least allow you to turn it off without needing to pull fuses or using a third party OBD-II connected app.
@@Ficon I just googled it and found an article of 2012 when porsche did fake sound in the cabin like 911 and Panamera GTS but it doesnt matter, nowadays almost every car has it and on almost every car you can turn it off.
@@reeisessit Using resonance pipes to bring actual engine noises into the cabin is not the same as playing fake sounds through the speakers. Most cars do not allow you to turn it off and it actually gets louder in sport mode.
Just purchased my first set of the DWS 06 Plus, based on several factors including your review and purchase for your Porsche. Super smooth, great traction for my needs, and low noise-245/40/19 Thanks for all the awesome work you do!
@NissanGuy94 I just got DWS 06 Plus (2012 Audi A6 3.0T) in the same size 245/40/19 and was previous running EC sport (summer). The DWS are MUCH quieter. Steering feel is noticeably reduced though. I'm enjoying the comfort and they should last a lot longer than the summers. The summers were probably noisy as they were down to 3/32 tread depth - I still think they are quieter though.
Again, a great review! The fact that you were able to get the 3 different performance tires from one manufacturer was awesome. I am currently running the Continental DW, which is the earlier version of the Continental Sport, on my F56 JCW and, once again, your results for the Sport are spot on to my expectations for an up graded version of the DW. I recently “tested” the DW in the monsoon rains we have been having here in the NE area of the States. With standing water and at highway speeds I had no issues; no hydroplaning. A very confidence inspiring tire. Glad to hear the Conti Sport did equally well or better. I am also impressed with the DWS results. Again, glad to hear I have a viable option for the JCW for the 3 seasons here where the DW/Sport is less desirable option.
hi jonathan would love to see you compare the Yoko A052, the RE71RS, This new extreme force contact, Michelin Cup 2, Pirelli P Zeo Trofeo...... as a guy who tracks his cars id love to get your views and thoughts
Thanks to Jonathan’s reviews, I’m enjoying my 1st set of Continental’s with 4 UHP Extreme Contact Sport Summer tires and they are every bit as awesome as he describes…. Thanks for the best reviews on the net!
@@tyrereviews can't wait! PS: it's amazing how far uhp all season tires have come compared to uhp summer tires. There's still a gap, but for most people with normal cars... They're plenty of fun.
The Hankook RS4 keeps going out of stock, so I'm looking for a replacement for an endurance 200TW! though ECF is way more expensive, but I hope the wear test comes soon!
Thanks for this video. This has convinced me that I want a Summer tire. I live in the South, and get very little Winter weather. The car I'm looking to equip is a Miata, which, IMO, is a "Summer car". Yes, I drive it in the Spring & Fall, but not Winter. So a Summer tire it is.
Great channel, thanks for this video! I've been agonizing over this very decision lately. I have a mk7 Golf R, and run summer/winter tires. Where I live, nighttime temps start dipping below 4C/40F in October, and don't reliably stay above that until mid-May. Usually, we don't see snow during before late November, or after March, so I hate to use dedicated snows (X-Ice) for the full 7 months of colder weather. But if I use the summers, I end up a little nervous driving late at night, or going on overnight trips for a few months out of the year, and I'm certainly not pushing the car at those temperatures. So 'fun' season ends up being only 4-5 months long. I feel like I'd get more confident use out of the car switching to A/S tires, but am worried about losing performance and enjoyment. The car came on contisportcontact 5p, and they were quite good in all performance respects. However, they wore pretty fast (down to 3/32 at 40000km), and for the 2nd half of their life, were VERY loud, annoyingly so. I've just pulled the trigger on a set of DWS06+. The price was about 40% less than the PS4S, 20% less than AS4. For the price, I could have chosen something like the Firestone Indy 500 or Falken FK510. What I'm hoping for is lower noise and better comfort than the 5Ps I'm replacing, and good performance in spring/fall temps, hopefully without too big a summer performance hit. Hopefully I've not made a big mistake! One interesting note - the DWS06+ look to be about 10lbs per corner lighter than the 5P I'm replacing. I'm not sure what the implications are for performance and MPG, or anything else for that matter, but it was a surprise to me.
Glad I helped you make up your mind, let me know how you find them! Don't forget, new tyres always feel a bit soft compared to worn tyres, so don't be too worried if you find that when you put them on.
Got an update for us? I'm thinking of putting the DWS 06+ on my Mazdaspeed3 for pretty much the exact same reasons as you said. I would love to hear some feedback from someone else in the FWD Hot hatch club running those tires!
@@andrewnickds Idk if you figured out your tire situation but you should absolutely go AS. Unless we're talking about a weekend canyon runner, you don't see winter, or wouldn't use winter tires for more than 1/4 of the year; the tiny tiny performance hit from AS is 100% worth it for the sheer amount more usefulness the tire has. It's like being at 100% for 65% of the time vs being at 96% for 100% of the time.
Thanks for this video. Very curious about the Extremecontact Force. I know you mentioned that it was super hot during testing, but how would you rate the speed in which it came up to temperature versus the other 200tw tires you've tested in the past? I would love to see a test with this versus the Rival S 1.5, A052, Rt660 etc. If you end up doing that it would be great to have some feedback on how fast the tires come up to temp (especially useful for the Autocross, Sprint Race, Time Attack, Hillclimb crowd). Great work on this!
I looked for a uhp summer vs uhp all season comparison for about two weeks. I finally found your video sitting in the waiting room while my new tires are being installed. Quite the timing, ha! I went with DWS 06 Plus. I'm surprised the summer tires did so well in the wet. Thanks for a great video!
Follow up - I love the DWS 06+. Fantastic tire! For road use, they are about as good as it gets unless you want a snow tire for the winter. Agreed though, that they aren't meant for the track. I autocrossed with them a twice and their side walls are too soft, and they got too hot pretty easily in late spring and summer. Grip is good, but easily outclassed by most all summer tires.
Hey Jon, long-time lurker - and liker - of your videos here! Just a suggestion: when you utilise imperial units such as at 11:48, it'd be great if you could just add a small bracket for the metric version at the lower part of the video like what Doug Demuro does in his videos. Otherwise, great job with your work all these years and I'll keep watching!
what I noticed is that there's a big difference between a soaking wet road and when it's slightly damp. Just too many aspects to mention them all but that'd be an interesting part in testing.
@@tyrereviews that's true as well. Maybe something for a cloudy day. Just from my experience that's the most interesting part for a tyre especially when aged. Already looking forward to the aged tyre test. Is it still coming?
Another excellent video, showing once again (pragmatically) what quality tyres do for driving enjoyment. Does the ExtremeContact Sport sit above the SportContact 6 in terms of dry performance?
awesome review! i recently went with the ECS on my car specifically because it did well in the wet road holding and braking while still being respectfully sticky in the dry. i dont race my car so a 200tw tire isnt for me (anymore) and it rarely sees snow or extremely cold temps.
I ran a three day rally on the Tail of the Dragon with DWS-06's in a 500hp E92. Never broke them loose once. Day 2 rained the entire day. Never lost traction. I was truly amazed. Little no no signs of wear. I just ordered a set of ECS02's for my F82 M4 to see if they perform as well.
I went to the track today with my DW06 Plus, I spent only around 20 minutes on track, the DW06 Plus has been destroyed. Vibration at 60+ mph, 10 times road noise etc.
just ordered new set of 235/40/18 DWS 06 Plus for my neuspeed wheels to replace my worn Michelin PSS for my MK7 GTI for Michigan summers. I have MI X-ICE on factory wheels but in West MI the Spring/Fall can catch you off guard with temp/snow and make the car undriveable. Hope Its not a terrible loss of dry/handling performance...
A great review, as usual! I’ve been waiting for an assessment of the DWS06+ versus a summer tire. I LOVE my Michelin PS4S but worry about the weather fluctuations in spring/fall in New England and need a functional daily. Sounds like the new DWS06+ is the choice w/ a dedicated winter setup for truly snowy conditions. Can’t wait for the winter tests to confirm my decisions.
I have the Michelin PS AS4 on my car and the new DWS 06 Plus on my wifes car. If you like your PS4s, go with the Michelin All Seasons. The Contis lack just a little bit in feel compared to the Michelins.
I run DWS-06 as a dedicated winter tire, and ECS in the summer. Never felt like I've needed anything more in the snow, those things are crazy good. I rock 15" and 16" in the winter on a miata, nobody else makes anything comparable in the sizes...
Im from Colorado and got these tires in November for my civic Si, and they have been able to get through every storm so far without getting stuck. I’m also lowered about 1 ½” and it got through some deep 8” parking lots
I'm interested in a comparison between a highly rated UHP All Season (DWS or Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4) and a middle of the pack Performance Summer tire that would be comparatively priced. Curious if a highly rated UHP All Season actually out performs a lesser rated Summer.
@@St3vo13 You'd notice the steering slowness of the UHP AS tire for sure, you might not notice the grip difference apart from in an emergency situation where you need it! I'm not sure there would be a huge amount in it!
DWS06+ vs DWS06 The DWS06+ get a solid 9.0 out of 10 overall. A summer tire is about a 9.5 or 9.7 in dry and wet conditions. This tire is so close to being perfect it's amazing. I loved those Nokian WRG4 especially for winter but they moved around the moment they hit warm wet roads. Now I'll be purchasing the Michelin PSAS4 for winter duties. In Maryland our weather is literally identical to the UK most of the time, just a bit more sunshine and high humidity in summer. I've done nearly 8k miles since ownership. Something I noticed is that now the front tires actually get good heat in them. The WRG4 would get +4 to 5psi rear while the front only about +2 when warm. These evenly go up and I can tell there's an improvement in tread wear. The DWS06+ tire is definitely chunkier than the outgoing DWS06. They take pot hole way better, way way better. I run 245/40 18 front and 265/35 18 rear as my stock setup. DWS06+ are better than the DWS06 in every way. The only difference I noticed was road noise in the first 100miles or so. Also cold tires they rumble a little but once broken in and warmed up they're quiet. Also if you under inflat them a bit they rumble. I've driven in below 40° f a few days we transitioned in March in April from winter to spring. The tires did great in 30° f. In the wet. Since owning this Mercedes-Benz I've had several sets of tires on this car. The stock ContiProContact, Nokian WRG4 (squared 245), and DWS06. They all had a tendency to move around in the front. I couldn't drive over 55mph safely in the rain. My car is rwd. The DWS06+ track very well even on terrible Baltimore roads in sport. I used to get a weird almost detached rear end feeling at low speeds, and that's gone. I'm assuming the ESP system was kicking in.
My source for tire performance baselines. I'm glad I found your channel. 😊
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@@tyrereviews what is the ambient temperature in this test
@@gorrilaunit99 Can't remember exactly but high, 30s to 40s c
I run DWS-06's in the winter and ECS in the summer. Those DWS's are nuts in the snow and hardly show wear, and I've never hydroplaned on the ECS's while outrunning the wipers, in a miata...
Amazing tires from Conti, super excited to try those new ECF's in 225's!
Fully agree on the DWS in the snow (in a Miata). Can't confirm on the others though.
Was super curious how the ECS did in the rain on a Miata. I have a ND Miata that came with super low quality/cheap tires on it that slip in the wet and dry. Just bought the conti ecs and am super excited to feel them
I just bought a new Miata RF GT and I am torn between these two tires. Because here in Alabama during winter it gets near freezing, albeit very dry, every day for most of the winter. The summers are extremely hot and rainy for the most part. Basically just curious if the DWS do better in dry cold
I put a full year on DWS 06s in my NC Miata. They were great in snow for an all-season, though admittedly, the rears still had new tire smell when the snow hit. When summer came, I basically melted them off. That's probably being a bit too unkind, but one of my fronts is about to show chords at 13 months and 25k miles. Probably half of that wear happened in the last 4 months. They were fast enough to keep up with my buddy's Mustang. I just ordered a set of ECS 02s, and I'm excited to see just how outrageous the body roll will be.
Follow-up. I burned the ECS off my front in less than 6 months of driving. They're a bit faster than DWS for sure, but MUCH sharper. At the limit, the DWS start to feel like pudding and the ECS feel angry, somehow. The body roll reached "bump stops on smooth roads" levels, which I tacked with cubic money (Ohlins!)
I ended up putting Blizzak WS90s on for the winter, which made the car EPIC for exactly one day of blizzard rally touge dorifto action, but they drove like used condoms in the dry and wet, at ANY temperature. The car was a UFO on snow and ice, but trash on anything else. I almost crashed a couple times because, even at 30F in the wet, the ECS and DWS absolutely curb stomp the Blizzaks and my normal pace through intersections was beyond their limit. They're going back on this winter, but my goal is to destroy them. They're great fun for drifting because they make their best grip while sideways (even dry). If they still exist in April, I'm turning them into smoke. Back to DWS for winters after that.
Excellent video as always! Great to see another tire manufacturer supporting your testing!
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I run the DWS 06+ on my 2020 MX-5 and drive in the winter. I absolutely LOVE the tires in the snow. Overall incredible tire in all conditions.
Drop what you’re doing, Jonathan’s back!
Unless it's holding a baby...
@@tyrereviews I hope he's not "doing" a baby
@@tyrereviews my baby its called lancer Evolution 7 RS2. Cant drop It ;)
@@atascatorDAOC My dad begs to differ, he dropped an E30 BMW on my head.
I'm a week late but literally saw it pop up and dropped everything I was doing to watch this lol
I use the ECS as my daily tire in FL, and can't wait to see how the ECF compares to other 200tw tires
They've already said it is "endurance focused" so it won't be a one lap wonder like the Yoko A052. But it will likely be a lot more expensive than the current endurance king, the Hankook R-S4.
@@gwcrispi I have rs4s for my car rn, Im interested to see if the contis will really be worth the extra $, either through performance or wear
@@DaAnimalControl are the ecf's better than the rs4's in grip/times?
My experience has been that even a more budget UHP tire like the Indy 500 or General G-Max RS is an improvement in dry handling over premium UHP all season like the PS AS3 and RE980 A/S.
First of all, Indy's would easily outperform most A/S in the dry because they're a summer compound. lol
The Indy's do absolutely terrible in the wet though. I live in the PNW where it's rainy 80% of the year and it was a chore keeping grip with those vs DWS06 / PS3/3+/4 and summers like ExtremeContact Sports & PS4S. Both those summers out performing the Indy's in the dry as well.
Indy's are decent in the dry. But for just $100 more in total cost. You can buy a much better tire like the ExtremeContact Sport.
Tires are arguably the most important part of a car as it's what is between you & the road. If you enjoy driving and pushing cars. Pinching pennies on tires will only serve to have massive compromises and increase your risk factor exponentially.
It's very much worth paying that extra $100.
@@Peylix agreed. That's why I have pilot sport all season 4 on my Accord. I lose a bit to the dedicated summer tires, but they're arguably the best out there... For now
@@Peylix The drawback of the ECS is that it has softer sidewalls and the driver might lose some steering feedback and road feel. The Potenza S007A had the same rigid sidewalls as the Indy 500s without the weak wet performance. It seems like the newer Potenza Sport has softer sidewalls more like the PS4S or ECS unfortunately, though thankfully perhaps not quite as soft. If North America does get the Potenza RE004 as a MkII version of the Indy 500, that should improve the weakness in the wet while still having the rigid sidewalls like the older model Potenzas like the S007A or RE003 (Indy 500).
@@TassieLorenzo @peylix my budget UHP tyre is nito 555 G2 , not sure how this will be for summer , wet & 5 degree celcuis, i live in georgia its mostly summer , wet, but winter stays for 4 months without snow, do u think nito will help? or should i go for DW6+ , but don't want to loose comfort..
The only channel I watch every new video immediately...even if I am at work! hahaha
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Can we talk about how Jon is flying around a track constantly squealing the tires and riding the limit and still can give us an incredibly in depth review of the fine detail between tires
Would love to see the pilot sport cup 2 (240) connect vs the extreme contact force. Knowing this channel and all the hints you dropped this is already in the works. My prediction the ECF will have better wear and will be better in the wet whereas the cup 2 will have slightly better dry performance. Cant wait for your in depth testing.
Jonathan, you never disappoint
Enjoy the thoroughness of your tyre reviews. Thanks for all of the work.
Fantastic comparison. Thank you so much. I was super curious about the new Conti Extreme Contact Force. Definitely will be an option for Lucky Dog and Lemons endurance racers that face rain and don't want to risk using Hankook RS4's (fantastic tire, tread life, will ruin your day in rain). Also great option for the 'wet' set of tires for die hard autocrossers.
i use the DW as my wet tire for champ car . 100% agree with the wet summery . dry though after 2 hours it became hot .
Best review channel -- data and detail oriented. Well structured videos.
I have the DWS06 on my '18 BRZ and the difference in cold weather and snow compared to the stock primacy is night and day. Plus it is more comfortable and more stable. I daily drive my car year round with these tires. I'll be purchasing the DWS06 + when it's time to replace these tires.
DWS06Plus are best all around tires. I have them on a muscle car. Smooth. Good tread-wear.
this is the Tyre review I needed thanks so much for your work on this 22 thumbs up !
The DWS06plus is amazing. Simply amazing.
Great comparison! I have the Extreme Contact Sports as well as the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4s...the difference isn't as much as folks make it out to be/the UHP AS tires really work well.
Thanks for the info! Stick some reviews on www.tire-reviews.com please :D
Great contebt man. I'd love to see the new Force tire vs the RS4 and RT660 in the not to distant future.
Me to
Good video! I really like the ECS and I'm looking forward to giving the ECF a go on track.
I'm rollin' on some Dunlop Sport Maxx RT2 235/35 ZR19 with my Focus ST. Very pleased with the stickyness!. Great tire.
there is no good video to make this comment (and thanks for the great content btw!) but;
I realized that if your tires wear slow enough they dry rot, then you probably should be able to use how much tread was left and its rating to (at least within brand?) pick a stickier tire that would need to be replaced around the time it would start to degrade/rot (6/7 years?).
For me, I have had more than a couple cars that are 20+ years old with less than 30k miles on them and end up having 9+ year old good tread depth, hard cracking tires. Also have cars that can see 30k+ miles a year. The 91 Corvette with under 50k miles tires will dry rot, the 18 BRZ with 115k miles is on its 3rd set of summer and 2nd set of winter tires.
Won't be getting these tyres in Europe, but watching anyway ; )
:D Thanks!
Hi, why wouldn't you guys be getting these tires in Europe? What's so different over there compared to the US? I mean I guess the harshest wingers are colder in the Northern US and the hottest summer days can be hotter in the south of US, could tjat be why? I always see different types/models of tires for Europeans.
@@bokiNYC Generally it's mileage vs wetgrip / rolling resistance. We have higher demands for the latter and the US prefers the former!
@@bokiNYC for some reason continental has entirely separate parallel product lineup in europe.
@@blegi1245 Most manufacturers do. Market demands are completely different between the two continents.
Would like to see a comparison between the Sport and the new SportContact 7 which you have now reviewed. The SportContact 7 seemed to be the new standard in the UHP Sumer Tyre category.
The main issue is they're not the same markets so the customer rarely has the chance to buy both!
I love my turanza t005 with rft
Very interesting!
Glad you think so!
I always enjoy these videos, but 99% of the time the tires you review are not available in my size 😅🤷♂️
:( the feels
Ok now I feel better lol I thought I was going crazy when I couldn't push the DWS06 past 45mph safely in the wet. (Just realized I bought the prior version and not the Plus*). Definitely going with a summer tire next March. I'll probably go with the Bridgestone Potenza, just not feeling the soft side wall of the Continentals although it's a great tire. Just not for me, I do too many miles and on a staggered setup I get half the life in the rear.
How does the sidewall stiffness correlate to how many miles you get out of a tire on your vehicle? Treadwear is often more a function of rubber compound than internal construction, though it is still a factor on some vehicles. Softer sidewalls tend to make a tire nicer to live with everyday.
@@waffle911 I prefer a stiffer side wall for handling. I didn't correlate tire wear to side walls. I said, "...just not feeling the soft side wall of the Continentals although a great tire." (Period, theirs a period there)
I went on to say "Just not for me, I do too many miles and on a staggered setup I get half the life in the rear."
Meaning, if I'm going to continue driving as much as I do, I want my ride to be the way I prefer. At no point was I correlating tread life and side wall. I was talking about my preferred ride quality especially when doing many miles. The DWS06 move around especially on a staggered setup in the rain.
Even the guy in the review had a similar experience, the Conti's lean toward oversteer and with a soft side wall, you get a bit more body roll too and they feel unnerving like almost no feedback to what the car is doing, making me more a reactive driver than proactive driver.
Maybe this will help you understand. My friend preferred a soft comfy bed where I preferred a firm stiff bed and pillow. She liked the feeling of sinking into the bed and her pillow. I was the total opposite, I even tend to fold my pillows for more firmness.
@@waffle911 I also drive for a living, been doing 60k to 100k per year for the past 3yrs. I've never used Continental tires before. My parents do. They use them on a Cadillac and seem to like them. I drive a Benz and this being my first experience with Conti's I don't like them in the real world. On paper their an excellent tire. It's different once they're on your car and you're driving on many different roads.
Something else I hate is they do horrible on grooved roads and bridges that have grates. That bit of slip in the rear coming and going across the Bay Bridge is not cool.
The tires I had previously were the Continental ContiProContact MO and those were actually better in stability worn out than my DWS06.
I'm not saying the DWS06 are bad, they are amazing in fact. I'm willing to trade off comfort for driver feedback.
I've tried a lot of tires from a lot of brands on at least 12 cars within the past 3yrs. I know you don't know me, but I'm 36 and I've been driving since I was 12.
Another great tire review video. Thanks.
continental building great products, great review
The UHP tires are often XL rated and a good match for the weight & torque of an EV. Hoping we see an EV tire test soon!
Working on an EV video right now!
Why would I need "subjective handling?"
Summer tires seem almost useless comparing performance numbers
quick note may be different in the UK but over here we call that Continental Extreme Contact Sport tire a Max Performance tire, and the new Force tire is considered a extreme summer tire i.e track days.
I call them the same on the website, but the internet searches UHP more :)
@@tyrereviews interesting 🤔 I've just always used tire rack and notice that's how they grouped the tires. I am still on the fence if I should choose the Conti ECS or ECF. I do daily my car and I have been known to hit triple digits in the rain I'm just not 100% confident in these new Force tires if they will be able to hold up in those kinds of conditions? Or if I were to use those tires I would have to be a lot more careful whenever it rained. I do like taking the car to the mountains and even if it does rain I still like to drive the car hard!
THANKS FOR THE REVIEW!
I think you tested the Goodyear Exhilerate, which I'm interested in. If you had to choose one , which one would you go with the Extreme Contact dws06+ or the Goodyear for good dry and wet handling
Were all three the same size? They look like substantially different diameters then they're standing side by side
Any reason why Continental has completely different names and offerings for their tyres in the US and Europe? I think none of these tyres are available in Europe.
A lot of brands do, different markeet requirements, they generally h ave less grip and higher mileage than we do!
used to own a set of extremecontact sport, worn out exactly at 15k, but it is grippy.
those were my suspicions, that usually Continental tires wear out pretty quickly compared to other premium brands such as Michelin and Goodyear
I'm surprised the summer was 2.1 seconds faster than the all-season in the wet but only 1.3 seconds faster in the dry. I would have guessed the opposite - do you think that's common comparing summer and all-season?
That's a good question, and without testing I couldn't be sure but like you I would have expected those numbers to be the other way around
Trade-off for winter performance is wet performance.
Rival S or the Conti Extreme Force? Saw another video you did with a bmw and the 1.5S was the fastest but the Conti wasnt in that test. Thanks.
Great video!
What about a comparision between the SportContact 6 and ExtremeContact Sport? are they better than the Michelin's Pilot Sport 4S?
It's hard to find demand for that test, though i've tested SC6 vs ECS a number of times :)
I'm really glad that you made this video, great info as always! I need new tires for a 2001 Camaro SS and I have it narrowed down to either the Continental ExtremeContact Sport 02 and the Continental ExtremeContact DWS06. I live in Minnesota and we get pretty bad winters but I only drive the car in the Fall and summer when there is no snow and ice so winter traction is not important to me but it would be nice to drive the car sometimes when it is a little colder. I'm leaning towards the Continental ExtremeContact Sport 02 I know you said the cross over point it about 45 degrees but do you know how cold of a temperature I could drive the sport 02 in if there is no ice and snow? Or do you think I should go with the DWS06?
You’ll be fine! I survived GY F1 supercar 2 on my gt500 in WI is 30 degree weather and those are the worst sports car tire ever made!
Thanks, for the DWS06+ I've heard the side walls are too soft. Also have you notice how they wear? Does the rim size I have 20 inch have an impact how the sidewall feels.
A very track-focused tyre feeling is a tempting poison indeed. Even more than the grip itself.
Just switched from them to regular UHP tyres and I'm already repented on the choice, I'm missing that sharp, crisp feeling of the steering
can you do a video about run-flat tyre and normal tyre in performance differences?
Hi. Ever think about doing a review for EVs because i have a Tesla model 3 performance and I'm starting my research for my next tires. Since EVs are heavier and the handling and power delivery is so different, would you do a test with EVs in mind? I suggest to test the Model 3 Performance because it is the most popular and the Track mode can help test the tires closer to the limit. Thanks.
From other comments, he's already working on that video, but with an Audi E-Tron.
Would like to know how the force compares to the hankook rs4
Me too bro, me too
So how do you rate this new 200tw FORCE against say Cup 2 or A050 ?
Similar lap times ?
Can you compare an ultra high performance all season tyre against a cheap summer tyre?
Would you get a Michelin PSAS4, Continental DWS06+, or Michelin CC2 for a 500hp EV where driving dynamics matter but range (low rolling resistance) and comfort (noise) matters as well. All 3 choices will do OK with the winter season. Leaning towards the continental or michelin CC2 due to comfort and LRR but wanted an expert opinion
The US spec CC2 doesn't seem to have low rolling resistance, but it would likely be the most comfortable
@@tyrereviews so CC2 may be out if it's not LRR...do you have rolling resistance numbers for the 3 tires? I haven't been able to find it in your reviews
Current tire is a Pirelli Pzero summer.
@@Steve-Stoytchev I don't sorry, there's no US law which requires RR data to be public like in the eU
@@tyrereviews thanks! Also fantastic content and data - especially the videos. Please keep it up!
how's the tracking when driving in a straight line?
Summary:
Best wet is Contact sport
Best dry is Contact force
Moderately better than Contact force in wet for DWS06+
How do they get the water on the track? And keep it there from evaporating?
Sprinklers at the edge
Im gna have a guess and say that track tyre isnt available in the uk?
None of them are; the first two were developed specifically for North America, and the track tire is so super brand new it just hasn't reached Europe yet.
Would the Continental Extreme Contact DWS06+ be a good choice for a 2016 Audi A8 with 20" rims for comfort
As there are not many Grand touring tires in that size
And you confirmed here that they ride well
I love the fact that these will have stellar braking in dry and wet vs Touring tires by about 30% in the wet and 10% in the dry
I watch all your videos
But,
What would you put on a 2016 Audi A8 with 20" rims for comfort?
Impossible to get a used A8 with 19" tires as everyone ordered the 20" option I guess
My car comes with the 265/65r20" but the Continental Extreme Contact DWS06+ doesn't come in that size, so I would have to get the 275/40r20"
Those tires are 28.7" tall giving me 4.35" of sidewall vs the 28" tall 19" 255/45r19" giving me 4.5" that should soften things up
Making chasing down 19" rims pointless for a extra 0.15 inch of sidewall
I thought they may be to tall, but the car has a 21" option 275/35r221 that are 28.5 " tall
Also when I priced them out the 275/40r20" are only about $20.00 a each more than the 255/45r19"
I love your channel
I put some on my Cayenne and the comfort levels are great!
@@tyrereviews Thank you
I swear I've been looking for years for a comparison of UHP All Season vs UHP Summer tires and F*@k me you made a video on it
Would love to see a cold - but not snowy - comparison test!
Had the Conti DWS from this test for about 6 Colorado winters. Surprisingly very remarkable in terms of ice and light snow traction. Great evacuation for slush. Obviously not going to be great for deep snow, but given the car the tires were on we’d never have taken it out in the midst of a storm anyway. But with these you could confidently set out anytime after the first lows do their thing.
I'd like to see Ecocontact vs premium contact vs SportContac.
Same premium brand, 3 category tyre. How much their compound compare ?
I also wanna see the EcoContact vs its family :=)
Aren’t those tires are no longer on production?
Don't worry about compound, worry more about the tyre structure and the handling!
Very interesting content again! May I just suggest something? I thought it would be a good thing to show us a constant picture and/or name of the tyre we're talking about, at the side of the screen, because at a moment I was wondering what tyre we were talking about. Now beside that, I really enjoyed the video, once again! Keep up the great work!
I'll keep that in mind :)
Thumbs up for another outstanding analysis. Thumbs down to the Ford engineer who came up with that fake engine noise in the cabin.
It's pretty bad. I have an etron at the moment and that's pretty strange for different reasons!
So thumbs down for every car engineer? Almost every car has it nowdays 🤷🏾♂️
@@reeisessit Yup. Porsche doesn’t do it and some manufacturers at least allow you to turn it off without needing to pull fuses or using a third party OBD-II connected app.
@@Ficon I just googled it and found an article of 2012 when porsche did fake sound in the cabin like 911 and Panamera GTS but it doesnt matter, nowadays almost every car has it and on almost every car you can turn it off.
@@reeisessit Using resonance pipes to bring actual engine noises into the cabin is not the same as playing fake sounds through the speakers. Most cars do not allow you to turn it off and it actually gets louder in sport mode.
CAN WE GET A REVIEW ON POTHOLES?...which tyre glides through potholes and ditches like Vaseline lubricant?
Interesting insights there, comparing these directly shows how far tyre technology has come.
I saw the ECF tire in the thumbnail and I HAD to click immediately! I'm so curious on those tires and no one has done a review yet.
They're awesome :)
Great video
Was expecting much worse from the all season
Just purchased my first set of the DWS 06 Plus, based on several factors including your review and purchase for your Porsche. Super smooth, great traction for my needs, and low noise-245/40/19 Thanks for all the awesome work you do!
Here in Georgia temp can go below 45f but no snow . Not sure if I can use all season or summer is enough ..
@NissanGuy94 I just got DWS 06 Plus (2012 Audi A6 3.0T) in the same size 245/40/19 and was previous running EC sport (summer). The DWS are MUCH quieter. Steering feel is noticeably reduced though. I'm enjoying the comfort and they should last a lot longer than the summers. The summers were probably noisy as they were down to 3/32 tread depth - I still think they are quieter though.
Finally a tire with the dimension 225/40 R17 😍
Again, a great review! The fact that you were able to get the 3 different performance tires from one manufacturer was awesome. I am currently running the Continental DW, which is the earlier version of the Continental Sport, on my F56 JCW and, once again, your results for the Sport are spot on to my expectations for an up graded version of the DW. I recently “tested” the DW in the monsoon rains we have been having here in the NE area of the States. With standing water and at highway speeds I had no issues; no hydroplaning. A very confidence inspiring tire. Glad to hear the Conti Sport did equally well or better. I am also impressed with the DWS results. Again, glad to hear I have a viable option for the JCW for the 3 seasons here where the DW/Sport is less desirable option.
Glad you enjoyed it and you're getting on with your tyres
hi jonathan would love to see you compare the Yoko A052, the RE71RS, This new extreme force contact, Michelin Cup 2, Pirelli P Zeo Trofeo...... as a guy who tracks his cars id love to get your views and thoughts
All impressive tires! Great test!
Thanks to Jonathan’s reviews, I’m enjoying my 1st set of Continental’s with 4 UHP Extreme Contact Sport Summer tires and they are every bit as awesome as he describes…. Thanks for the best reviews on the net!
How would you rate the DWS06 plus vs PSAS4?
Hooray!
Can we put the cup 2 on snow also for "comedy relief" ?
Got the 4S on snow coming later this year
@@tyrereviews can't wait!
PS: it's amazing how far uhp all season tires have come compared to uhp summer tires. There's still a gap, but for most people with normal cars... They're plenty of fun.
AWESOME1 Thank you so much! I have been waiting for this for years, you did a great job!
Thank you :D
The Hankook RS4 keeps going out of stock, so I'm looking for a replacement for an endurance 200TW! though ECF is way more expensive, but I hope the wear test comes soon!
Thanks for this video. This has convinced me that I want a Summer tire. I live in the South, and get very little Winter weather. The car I'm looking to equip is a Miata, which, IMO, is a "Summer car". Yes, I drive it in the Spring & Fall, but not Winter. So a Summer tire it is.
Well, how could I NOT watch this...
:D
Great channel, thanks for this video! I've been agonizing over this very decision lately.
I have a mk7 Golf R, and run summer/winter tires. Where I live, nighttime temps start dipping below 4C/40F in October, and don't reliably stay above that until mid-May. Usually, we don't see snow during before late November, or after March, so I hate to use dedicated snows (X-Ice) for the full 7 months of colder weather. But if I use the summers, I end up a little nervous driving late at night, or going on overnight trips for a few months out of the year, and I'm certainly not pushing the car at those temperatures. So 'fun' season ends up being only 4-5 months long.
I feel like I'd get more confident use out of the car switching to A/S tires, but am worried about losing performance and enjoyment. The car came on contisportcontact 5p, and they were quite good in all performance respects. However, they wore pretty fast (down to 3/32 at 40000km), and for the 2nd half of their life, were VERY loud, annoyingly so.
I've just pulled the trigger on a set of DWS06+. The price was about 40% less than the PS4S, 20% less than AS4. For the price, I could have chosen something like the Firestone Indy 500 or Falken FK510. What I'm hoping for is lower noise and better comfort than the 5Ps I'm replacing, and good performance in spring/fall temps, hopefully without too big a summer performance hit. Hopefully I've not made a big mistake!
One interesting note - the DWS06+ look to be about 10lbs per corner lighter than the 5P I'm replacing. I'm not sure what the implications are for performance and MPG, or anything else for that matter, but it was a surprise to me.
Glad I helped you make up your mind, let me know how you find them! Don't forget, new tyres always feel a bit soft compared to worn tyres, so don't be too worried if you find that when you put them on.
Got an update for us? I'm thinking of putting the DWS 06+ on my Mazdaspeed3 for pretty much the exact same reasons as you said. I would love to hear some feedback from someone else in the FWD Hot hatch club running those tires!
@@andrewnickds Idk if you figured out your tire situation but you should absolutely go AS. Unless we're talking about a weekend canyon runner, you don't see winter, or wouldn't use winter tires for more than 1/4 of the year; the tiny tiny performance hit from AS is 100% worth it for the sheer amount more usefulness the tire has. It's like being at 100% for 65% of the time vs being at 96% for 100% of the time.
Can’t wait for the next video looking at 200TW tires !
Thanks so much for doing this! It seems none of the major tire reviewers do this.
Who are the major tire reviewers in your opinion?
@@tyrereviews now that I think about it, I'm really only talking about Tire Rack.
Thanks for this video. Very curious about the Extremecontact Force. I know you mentioned that it was super hot during testing, but how would you rate the speed in which it came up to temperature versus the other 200tw tires you've tested in the past? I would love to see a test with this versus the Rival S 1.5, A052, Rt660 etc. If you end up doing that it would be great to have some feedback on how fast the tires come up to temp (especially useful for the Autocross, Sprint Race, Time Attack, Hillclimb crowd). Great work on this!
I can't answer that accurately, sorry, it was really hot!
Can’t wait to see the 200 utqg comparisons. I had a good autocross season on the Falken RT660s but missed my old RE71 sidewall stiffness
It's always on the channel :)
Can you go the opposite way. with the UHP being the highest performance againts things like grand tourer or ultra low rolling resistance tire
Could you make a vid, with all the Summer tire family from Continental ? Including the EcoContact ?
Thanks so much !!!
I looked for a uhp summer vs uhp all season comparison for about two weeks. I finally found your video sitting in the waiting room while my new tires are being installed. Quite the timing, ha! I went with DWS 06 Plus. I'm surprised the summer tires did so well in the wet. Thanks for a great video!
Follow up - I love the DWS 06+. Fantastic tire! For road use, they are about as good as it gets unless you want a snow tire for the winter. Agreed though, that they aren't meant for the track. I autocrossed with them a twice and their side walls are too soft, and they got too hot pretty easily in late spring and summer. Grip is good, but easily outclassed by most all summer tires.
Hey Jon, long-time lurker - and liker - of your videos here! Just a suggestion: when you utilise imperial units such as at 11:48, it'd be great if you could just add a small bracket for the metric version at the lower part of the video like what Doug Demuro does in his videos. Otherwise, great job with your work all these years and I'll keep watching!
Or consider using the Project Binky wonky imperial conversions, which are amusing in the extreme! ;)
Good work 👍
what I noticed is that there's a big difference between a soaking wet road and when it's slightly damp. Just too many aspects to mention them all but that'd be an interesting part in testing.
Sadly damp conditions are very difficult to keep fair and consistent :(
@@tyrereviews that's true as well. Maybe something for a cloudy day. Just from my experience that's the most interesting part for a tyre especially when aged. Already looking forward to the aged tyre test. Is it still coming?
Another excellent video, showing once again (pragmatically) what quality tyres do for driving enjoyment. Does the ExtremeContact Sport sit above the SportContact 6 in terms of dry performance?
awesome review! i recently went with the ECS on my car specifically because it did well in the wet road holding and braking while still being respectfully sticky in the dry. i dont race my car so a 200tw tire isnt for me (anymore) and it rarely sees snow or extremely cold temps.
Sounds like the perfect choice :)
I ran a three day rally on the Tail of the Dragon with DWS-06's in a 500hp E92. Never broke them loose once. Day 2 rained the entire day. Never lost traction. I was truly amazed. Little no no signs of wear. I just ordered a set of ECS02's for my F82 M4 to see if they perform as well.
How’s performance
I went to the track today with my DW06 Plus, I spent only around 20 minutes on track, the DW06 Plus has been destroyed. Vibration at 60+ mph, 10 times road noise etc.
RIP :(
Just saw the opening frame. Gosh this random Focus ST looks so magical. :) This car is growing on me (I have a mk2.5 orange, and always hated the mk3)
Perhaps it's the bright orange!
Oh, it is lovely in the sun, trust me :)
just ordered new set of 235/40/18 DWS 06 Plus for my neuspeed wheels to replace my worn Michelin PSS for my MK7 GTI for Michigan summers. I have MI X-ICE on factory wheels but in West MI the Spring/Fall can catch you off guard with temp/snow and make the car undriveable. Hope Its not a terrible loss of dry/handling performance...
A great review, as usual! I’ve been waiting for an assessment of the DWS06+ versus a summer tire. I LOVE my Michelin PS4S but worry about the weather fluctuations in spring/fall in New England and need a functional daily. Sounds like the new DWS06+ is the choice w/ a dedicated winter setup for truly snowy conditions. Can’t wait for the winter tests to confirm my decisions.
I have the Michelin PS AS4 on my car and the new DWS 06 Plus on my wifes car. If you like your PS4s, go with the Michelin All Seasons. The Contis lack just a little bit in feel compared to the Michelins.
@@ak2112 DWS + are so much more comfortable, Michelin are much stiffer...if you are not a street racer, go for DWS + for your daily driver.
I run DWS-06 as a dedicated winter tire, and ECS in the summer. Never felt like I've needed anything more in the snow, those things are crazy good.
I rock 15" and 16" in the winter on a miata, nobody else makes anything comparable in the sizes...
Im from Colorado and got these tires in November for my civic Si, and they have been able to get through every storm so far without getting stuck. I’m also lowered about 1 ½” and it got through some deep 8” parking lots
@@TheRyansLion have you ran these in the summer? I have a ‘22 Si and looking to get DWS+
I'm interested in a comparison between a highly rated UHP All Season (DWS or Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4) and a middle of the pack Performance Summer tire that would be comparatively priced. Curious if a highly rated UHP All Season actually out performs a lesser rated Summer.
In the dry, probably not, in the wet, probably :)
@@tyrereviews but would it a noticeable difference in the dry if you're not tracking it?
@@tyrereviews also I appreciate the reply. Wasn't expecting anything :)
@@St3vo13 You'd notice the steering slowness of the UHP AS tire for sure, you might not notice the grip difference apart from in an emergency situation where you need it! I'm not sure there would be a huge amount in it!
Please do the Conti ECS 02
DWS06+ vs DWS06
The DWS06+ get a solid 9.0 out of 10 overall. A summer tire is about a 9.5 or 9.7 in dry and wet conditions.
This tire is so close to being perfect it's amazing. I loved those Nokian WRG4 especially for winter but they moved around the moment they hit warm wet roads. Now I'll be purchasing the Michelin PSAS4 for winter duties. In Maryland our weather is literally identical to the UK most of the time, just a bit more sunshine and high humidity in summer. I've done nearly 8k miles since ownership.
Something I noticed is that now the front tires actually get good heat in them. The WRG4 would get +4 to 5psi rear while the front only about +2 when warm. These evenly go up and I can tell there's an improvement in tread wear.
The DWS06+ tire is definitely chunkier than the outgoing DWS06. They take pot hole way better, way way better.
I run 245/40 18 front and 265/35 18 rear as my stock setup.
DWS06+ are better than the DWS06 in every way. The only difference I noticed was road noise in the first 100miles or so. Also cold tires they rumble a little but once broken in and warmed up they're quiet. Also if you under inflat them a bit they rumble.
I've driven in below 40° f a few days we transitioned in March in April from winter to spring. The tires did great in 30° f.
In the wet.
Since owning this Mercedes-Benz I've had several sets of tires on this car.
The stock ContiProContact, Nokian WRG4 (squared 245), and DWS06. They all had a tendency to move around in the front. I couldn't drive over 55mph safely in the rain. My car is rwd.
The DWS06+ track very well even on terrible Baltimore roads in sport. I used to get a weird almost detached rear end feeling at low speeds, and that's gone. I'm assuming the ESP system was kicking in.
Thank you for nice video. I'm still looking for promised EV tires test. Is that still in plan to be done?
I have an etron at the moment, but it's not a full test, more normal vs ev tyres
@@tyrereviews I think low resistance tires like ecopia, e-primacy.. . Etron does not count. It needs UHP tires. Daily driver low resistance tires.
Will you test the new Yokohama Advan Sport V107 and AD09 vs the competition:)
I'll try!