Lightning Cold, Range when -30C
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- Опубліковано 4 гру 2022
- Cold Tesla
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What is your range when it is Minus 20C to Minus 30C on the highway?
I tested this over multiple trips, short and long.
Speed 115 kmh,
Heat 24C
Fan on 4 to 7
Heated seats on both sides
Heated steering wheel on most of the time.
I received 41 to 44 kwh per 100 kms.
I would say, you can be very confident that you will get 300 kms, with 5% battery left, maybe a little more or less.
It is early days, but when there are more charging stations that work, it will be no problem to go anywhere at anytime with out even thinking about it.
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great video to see real life range in the cold. I added a heater to my garage this year and found it made a huge difference on my range.
90% of truck people aren’t towing trailers or RVs. The range during cold is fine for regular people. I’d love to have a Lighting!!!!
Maybe you should get a electric golf cart if you have no concern of usability. Your statistics are way off.. people do two and USE their trucks. what's going to happen after you use up your 90 miles of range and then someone is at the charging station, your 2 hour wait just became a 4 hour wait.. not remotely viable for another 5- 10 years without some major improvements, then you can say your were right all along.. lol.. but not now.
@@mydroneadventures8807 You can charge from 0 to full in 45 minutes ?? and you can tow a 6K camper trailer more than 90 miles ?? and if someone is in front of you at the charger location, which does not support room for a camper, your saying it will not take you 2 hours or more ?? PROVE THIS... POST A VIDEO.. I will retract my comments then. We have these trucks in my area too... so please don't command me what to post or not post. There is about 1% of charging stations compared to GAS stations. This stuff isn't VIABLE yet.. if we all switched to E-golf carts tonight like you biden voters would like, we all be in trouble in a few weeks.
Thank you for this video! I just bought my 2023 F-150 Lightning, Lariat, ext. Range and live in NW Ontario.
I imagine you live in Alberta. Well with Danielle Smith sabotaging the green agenda I hope you gonna get more chargers soon. EV's are the best. My kona does 17Kwh /100km so it is a bit more frugal. In Quebec and Ontario I have no problem finding chargers. Nice vid . Thumbs up for this one.
You know what u don't have to worry about in a gas-powered truck? Range. I even get to use the heat when I'm driving! If I need more range I go to almost any corner in town, spend 3 minutes, then I'm on my way.
Cool. Makes sense. But some people like electric. It happens to have some downsides. Personally I like the instant heat the electric gives and the fact of costing me $8 to fill my pack (400km in winter). How much does it cost you to fill up your f150? How long do u have to wait until the truck is warm?
Do you know what you will never worry about in an EV truck? Running out of juice, (charged full every morning)going to a gas station, being tied to the fluctuations of the greedy fossil fuel industry, light weight rear end, power outages at home, on and on, the EV is more convenient 99% of the time the ICE is more convenient 1% of the time.
And add heavy towing to the equation. Not to mention $20,000 plus to replace the battery. EV trucks are not on my radar yet!
@matthew mortensen LOL, thats exactly what the problem is! Your a fool if you think the added demand in electricity won't make it skyrocket. Why docyou think everything went to NG in the first place? There is no infrastructure for ev's. There won't ever be, it's too expensive. Wake up 🐑
Another think you failed to comprehend is that Electricsl rates are federally regulated unlike gas prices where the fossil fuel industry regulates our governing policies to drive up profits. Like I said tge only way electrical rates increase is when they are tied to fossil fuels. Or ERCOT!
Thanks for the good info on your experience. What you are basically saying is your experience is a ~>30% loss in range at these cold temps. Don’t forget this vehicle is specifed to get 25.4 kw-hr/100 Kms. Temp. Not specified. That is a 40% difference in your 44kw-hr/100Kms. However, this appears to be is fine for you as it meets your expectations for range based on your needs. All good. However, that may not be acceptable to others either because they expect the same range hot or cold or that they actually need it. This is a consideration all EV buyers need to make before they buy. I agree the Ford F150 is the best performing light truck out there hands down. Just have to know the limitations that any particular vehicle may have and if it fits your needs.
never have I received 25.4 or less, unless it was city driving(under80kms) and no air or heat on.
@@coldtesla6212 Yes, understood but that is what the vehicle is specified for. 515 KMs for 131 KW-hrs.
I only drive my lightning locally and only charge at home. Average trip is just 60 miles. And only charge my ER battery to 80%. I probably wouldn't have bought it if I needed it for long distance traveling
Thank you. I got the truck recently, but having a hard time adjusting, I keep looking at the remaining charge 😅
I looked at a Lightning Lariat at a local dealer. Ford deleted the heated steering wheel. My understanding is it isn't available on 2023 models. Well done Ford.
no its back, and I would not buy one if it did not have the option
It was a parts shortage. A few options were omitted not by choice but because they could not get the parts from their suppliers. I am shopping now for used and I check all the window stickers for vehicles I'm interested in.
thanks for the video. I am debating getting better tires for canadian winters for my lightning
my other electric had Firestone all weather (not all season) and my escape has goodyear at winter, but they are loud on the the hwy, my friend has Michelin mud and snow on his f350 all perform about the same
That was actually better than I expected. Where do you live? Do you ever have problems with your gas vehicles starting in the extreme cold? I heard that is a nice advantage of electric cars. They will always start when others won't. I imagine a diesel would struggle at -30.
yes, you must plug in your diesel, or it will not start, transports never turn off the engine, most newer cars will start at minus 30, EV's do not worry but range is lower.
I'll stick to 880km range on my powerboost heat on full blast, heated seats on full and I don't have to worry about where I need to charge and finding a charging station. I can also fill up in just a few minutes and go another 880km.
i can't remember the last time I needed to drive my truck that far, I'll take the lightning personally for my city vehicle
That's a lot of money to shell out for a vehicle to run around the city/local driving.
CO2 “the gas of life” is not a bad thing. The world is much greener.
It's a really fancy Electric Golf cart at this point. It will be better with battery improvements. in 7-10 years.
if a golf cart could go 200, carry 5 people and a square meter of gravel
@@coldtesla6212 A square meter of gravel isn't how the working man get by.. LOL.. Try pulling a 6 or 10K trailer to random locations, you will find you CAN NOT. Charging infrastructure doesn't exist. IT ISN"T HERE... 5-10 more year, if our nation doesn't collapse before then.
Man. Switch to km per kw. Kw per 100 km is so hard to do head math. I get 2.1 to 2.2 km per kw at -20c 2.3 at -10c . At zero back up to 2.8 to 3.0 km per kw. This is 50/50 hwy/city
Good video. Remember battery percentage is not real battery percentage in the Winter. Ford recalcs the battery capacity based on ambient temp. I bet you will find you may only be able to go 83 km on 39%. Do a test and let us know. In summary in cold 100% is not 100 or 131 kW. So 44 kw/100 kms may be correct (and I found the Ford efficiency spot on) but battery is not specified capacity. Sorry it's disappointing. Message me if you want to see the data. A buddy recently scanned his found his 100kWh battery was only 80 kWh and that's at 20F. I made the same assumption as you but when measuring the actual charges, less charger losses, to validate, my true efficiency was 10-30% less as the battery is “smaller”.
How warm was your cabin during these tests? Looking at this truck in Manitoba. And do you have a tonneau cover? Thanks.
22C
yep a tonneau cover, when it is cold, 300kms at 120kph is all you get
It's either we get a Lightning now, or I wait for the Cybertruck. Would be nice to have in town service things like cracked windshields. As it is now we have to go 350 kilometers away for those kinds of things.
As a fellow Albertan, I'm really looking at switching from my 2014 Tesla to the lightning. Everyone screams about the range loss in winter for the lightning, but as a percentage, is it worse than my model S? That's what I'm really trying to figure out. But realistically, with a bigger range to start with, I suspect it would be okay. One real world question, at those temperatures, do you figure it would be able to do the leg from Calgary to Golden? My model S can do that most of the year, but can't quite manage it at -30c. The distance is less than the 300 km you talk about here, but you have to count the mountains.
Depends on speed, if you are 115kmh, then yes no problem, what you lose on the way up you get back on the way down. I constantly get 300kms, wind is the big one!
@@coldtesla6212 considering 3/4 of the way there is a 90 limit, that means it's doing better than my model S, and that's the only thing that really matters to me. You say what you lose on the way up you gain on the way down, that's not universally true. Sure you regen a bunch, but there are certainly significant losses to that. I was just wondering if you had real world experience heading through the mountains?
I tried mapping what it would take to drive an electric vehicle to western ontario. Maybe in a long range Telsa but in a Lightning rapid charging stations seem to be almost non-existant north of Duluth, Mn. If I am going to spend a lot of money on a pickup then I want to be able to take it on a Canadian fishing trip which would be a challenge for sure.
Thankfully Ford EV"s will have access to Tesla Superchargers starting next year!
@@josephsoileau8465 That will help to allow trips on I94 in North Dokota. Try mapping Duluth, MN to Dryden Ontario. There are still area especially in the North with very long distances between chargers. I went on a fishing camp about 50 miles northwest of Dryden last year. When you have charging in many more spots it would be better for long distance travel.
This is still a gas powered truck.
69% of electricity generated in Alberta is by gas & diesel.
I agree, but it’s a gas powered truck with a drivetrain that is 90% efficient rather than 35%, like a true gas powered truck.
wrong, no electricity is generated by diesel, 40% water, nat gas the rest.
99% of people buying an EV give zero shits about being green. I bought my EV because it saves me 400 to 500 a month in fuel. Basically, pays the car payment. I plan to put up solar, so I don't even have to pay to charge it at all.
Sorry if i missed this but is this the extended battery?
yes, do not buy any other type, unless you never plan to leave the city or live where it never gets below freezing
How you assum that you get extra range. Have you drive it to 0?
10kms, I try to never to go below 20kms, dont want to get stranded
210km to my fishing spot. Not sure it would make it with a trailer
depends on the trailer? In the summer I can make 300kms towing 3000kg
Is this the extended range version?
yes
I just love how all the people that buy EV’s try to justify their short comings….. Too windy - need to hold off on the test, too cold - mileage isn’t THAT bad, getting stuck in an accident traffic jam at -30C - just bundle up so you don’t freeze 🥶 to death when your charge runs out in the middle of nowhere! These EV trucks carry a pretty hefty price premium and yet there are MANY compromises that have to be made vs an ICE. Maybe they will get there 10 years down the road, but as an engineer the numbers just don’t currently add up in order for me to purchase one. Maybe one day when they triple the range and cut the charging time…
I love it when people that have never been in an EV much less don’t own one tell people that have driven (more miles a year than you by averages) them for 11 years.
BTW, the average new EV with a heat pump can keep the cabin of the vehicle warm for 75 hours where as the average ICE car with a full tank can only idle for around 30 hours. Who is bundling up now?
As I say the average EV is way more convenient than an ICE during 99% of the driving we do whilst a ice is only slightly more convenient 1% of the time.
@@matthewmortensen7401 You must live in Cal i forn i a… because in other parts of the world where it actually gets cold, EV’s just don’t cut it period.
You mean cold places like Norway where EVs have 80% of the new car market?
Great point.
PS. I drive my EV all last week with temps in the teens, no problem.
FUD.
@@mattmortensen8492 You mean the huge subsidies that they give in Norway for EV? Nice try, comparing apples to oranges.
@@mattmortensen8492 And again, -30 to -40C is far off from the teens.
Soon enough people are going to start adding diesel heaters to keep their batteries warm to improve range...
My son, wanted to put his Lincoln generator from his welding truck on the back for endless range, but that works out to 25liters/100kms, hehe
Sorry still not a supporter call me archaic in thought on this but I want reliability of my ice engine in cold. Where I know if I needed to stop and fill I could do in 5 minutes
True, speed is important, but I have no concerns, after a year I know how far I can go, and yes it is a pain in the A** to charge anywhere but home, but you are missing out on all the fun.
That's a 3 TON vehicle, so no, it'll scare the Jesus out of you on slick roads......wanna turn?......nope.....the Chevy is FOUR and a HALF tons.....9000 pounds!!!
I had a 1999 F-150 Super-cab bought new, and drove it for 20 years...4200 pounds. When the roads were icy it was a freaking nightmare.....
handles extremely well on icy roads, duel motor, and of course winter tires!
Way to many problems! EVs not for me. 🇺🇸😖😖
Will they be for you when gas is $10 per gallon? It is inevitable. We just don’t know when
@@swss12 I will be able to afford $10.00 a gallon, not a problem 👌. The problem would be if I had a $1500. Dollar a month car payment for 5 years!