Majority of the comments did point to either the MAF, Idler control valve or timing belt. But you were also told to get a scan tool to determine what the problem actually is. You got one and narrowed it down pretty quickly
Most older Subarus have a built in diagnostic tool under the dash - green/black connectors - connect them to read codes via the CEL, its never about "oh its this" "replace that", its always about confirming things - resistance checks, inspecting this and that (especially timing related components), voltage readouts, disconnecting things etc
It must be nice to have enough money to pay someone to always diagnose and fix your car. I’ll save my money and spend some time learning to do it myself while feeling accomplished and usually save hundreds to thousands.
Papa Pruett you totally missed the Lonny You could spend 20 hours chasing your tail, buying new parts you don’t need to still not fix the problem. Meanwhile, good mechanic fixes it in 2 hours and no new parts required.
I fix alot of wrxs,if that code came up I would of put a scope on the idle control valve and checked duty cycle and current that would immediately show it stuck/jammed or working too hard because of another issue,,then would of put a amp clamp on the power/starter cable and done a relative compression check,which in all take about 15-20min gone are the days I pull down motors,covers and etc,life is so easy with a picoscope,btw love your idea about asking guys on fb,great vid.
I had a 1uz do exactly this. Idle like it had hugggue cams and spit flames out the intake. Ended up being seized bearings on the iacv. 7 bucks worth of parts had me chasing my tail for days.
I would've brought it to at least one car meet and told everyone it was on a stupid aggressive cam lmao! I mean that idle sounds bad, but it just sounds so good at the same time! But maybed thats just the rotary guy in me coming out.
This could have been a great video but it seemed like it was solely made to make fun of motive dvd's fans. I follow Street Machine, 1320, Cletus, Mighty Car Mods and the list goes on. This is the only channel that never shows appreciation for its fans and actually went out if their way to make a video bagging their fans. It's so hard to be a fan and I've tried but this takes the cake and I've even purchased your videos on UA-cam and DVD and this feels like a kick in the face. People on Facebook groups usually comment with something regarding their own experiences with that particular car and it's up to the person who asked for help to decipher what's happening and make a decision to tackle it themselves or go to a pro. I've helped two people on Facebook get their rb25 running from my own experiences and all my suggestion was to unplug the CTS connector and it worked. Also I bet if someone had the luxury of being in front of the car like Andrew and Benny were they could have come up with the same solution.
anderson silva if you think we bagged our fans then you are making this video about you and taking things way too seriously. Our channel is based around educating our viewers with facts, data and results. We try to keep them away from the confusion of Facebook land. This is not an insult to anyone. It’s showing that sometimes you need to get proper advice, not ask the internet, which quote often does more damage and more confusion unless it specially tailored, which it often isn’t .
@@MotiveVideo obviously this video is isn't about me but there's lots of people asking advice on Facebook and forums and it's still making a mockery of doing so. It's a shame to have such negativity in these videos. All the others UA-camrs previously mentioned have all positive and inspiring videos and get more people into the car scene even on a budget or with plenty of funds but wanting to learn new skills and do it for them selves, which I applaud
Sorry have to agree. I am a motive fan but andrew can be pretty arogant sometimes. Motive can produce some great content but after all these years it hasn't got anywhere near the subs of other younger channels. Wonder why......
If a oscilloscope was used initially, I.E. cam/crank correlation, as well as compression, it would have saved way more time than taking everything apart. I think you give your mechanic way too much credit
Haha, my 2j did this with a fkd crank angle sensor it broke up around 4k and had like a fake 2 step, although there was no flamage out of anything near the intake. Then wouldn't idle at all after a week, i thought it was the coils as it was a progressive faliure..nope was the crank sensor, lol after changing the coils, leads and cam sensor...the power of semi blind deduction....Although all that shit was old and cracked anyways so at the end it was a good refresh!
ALL jokes and bullshit aside, the first thing I said to myself was cam timing because fire out of the intake means that the intake valve(s) are opening when the combustion happens.
So Facebook was right and there was no need for 90% of the video. I respect you put it up anyway but kind of makes all the talk at the beginning pointless.
Garbage... I 've had enough reputable mechanics throw parts and money at cars because I was too busy at my own job. To the point where I've told them to keep a bricked car that they without approval spent a heap of money on.
Had a huge nightmare with dealership repairing a brand new VE Sportwagon, stutter under load that cleared up through rev range, they changed a myriad of parts (new trans, torque converter, among other things) 5 times back and forth with the car, loan cars, Director of the dealership ended up loaning his own car because it became such a huge problem that they just couldn't fix... was a fault with drive by wire... professionals at a dealership bahahaha
Kinda a roundabout concept with the whole critique of the help you asked for...good vid otherwise I guess. Maybe you just weren't smart enough to see the confusion in the whole thing
@@MotiveVideoI know. That is from back in the day when you did the 180sx with MCM. People had all sort of theories then. I think it was also mentioned in one of the vids? 👍
majority of internet advice is trash but don't be so negative some of it is golden. However those that haven't a clue shouldn't comment. I guessed in the right problem area but my advise would be take it to a professional. My expertise is in computers and troubleshooting requires step by step information gathering and testing. A single response can't help but a back and forth can eventually help, if you're getting advice from an expert. However they're hard to find these days.
a lot of facebook technicians butt hurt about this video lol his point is don't go buying and changing parts without getting the advice of a certified specialist... that has a beer gut and beard.
Yeah but that's not going to cause the ignition timing to be that far off that it's spitting flames out the vacume ports on the inlet manifold... Is it? No it's not dude
@@MotiveVideo So, you ignore my identical comment of doing a UA-cam comments one posted before Nick but compliment his comment....okay.....🤨🤔 Was it because the laughs were added? Oh well, at least great minds think alike. 😎
hmm.. you probably asked a facebook group full of amateurs. Because 20 answers and all are bullshit... ask a correct group and you really can find solutions...
Not realy a mystery. If explosion is happening in the , or should I say out the intake, it means ignition point is happening with one or more valves open. Eier stuck valves, or belt skipped , so cam and crank timing is out of sync. Solution: set timing corect with alignment points for true tdc on crank and cams. Shoot base timing and set corect. If still problem , engine out and complete head work. Now I'll watch 😂
So you were wrong, just as the video proved. If someone had listened to your advice they would be at the stage of the engines pulled out and found nothing. Your advice is exactly the issue.
Best way to fix it if you take it crap has motor out of it put a 2JZ in it do Jay-Z's are 100% better then the Nissan Motors I know you need some guys going to get pissed don't get me wrong I do like the Nissan's but the 2JZ is undisputable
13:08 The famous Benny 1 motion intercooler installation
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Majority of the comments did point to either the MAF, Idler control valve or timing belt. But you were also told to get a scan tool to determine what the problem actually is. You got one and narrowed it down pretty quickly
Most older Subarus have a built in diagnostic tool under the dash - green/black connectors - connect them to read codes via the CEL, its never about "oh its this" "replace that", its always about confirming things - resistance checks, inspecting this and that (especially timing related components), voltage readouts, disconnecting things etc
Try and fix it myself and maybe learn something in the process!
Mate, you're not a fucking professional, just own up and admit it. MotiveDVD said you need to just let a professional do it
Mechanical stig is everywhere. Maybe there is 2 of them!
Goes to show facebooks guess was just as good as a good mechanic lol.
So hang on, someone on Facebook was actually right and you guys fluffed around for hours anyway? Kinda defeats the premise of the video...
Yep
Had a laugh at that too, I was thinking similar to Mech Stig, timing issue of some sort.
Haha yeah I thought that was the issue too and agreed with him but don’t know much about Subarus
coreyw427 no one said exactly what was wrong. Not a single person
I'm suprised they didn't edit that out or completely ignore it.
It must be nice to have enough money to pay someone to always diagnose and fix your car.
I’ll save my money and spend some time learning to do it myself while feeling accomplished and usually save hundreds to thousands.
Papa Pruett you totally missed the Lonny
You could spend 20 hours chasing your tail, buying new parts you don’t need to still not fix the problem. Meanwhile, good mechanic fixes it in 2 hours and no new parts required.
I fix alot of wrxs,if that code came up I would of put a scope on the idle control valve and checked duty cycle and current that would immediately show it stuck/jammed or working too hard because of another issue,,then would of put a amp clamp on the power/starter cable and done a relative compression check,which in all take about 15-20min gone are the days I pull down motors,covers and etc,life is so easy with a picoscope,btw love your idea about asking guys on fb,great vid.
haha nice, if only we could all bring in the mechanical stig X-D
Best way to fix a WRX is to sell it for a Skyline.
You sir, are asking for more trouble.
Not to mention making your rallies a lot less fun...
or just rb25 swap it
Then sell the skyline and buy a 2j supra
@@MrDngrsdave then LS swap the supra
I'm at 3:00 and I'm guessing the key on either the crank or one of the cams has sheared. I will shortly know if I'm close?
FUCK
Im following Benny on everyones utube channel. Was fitting 240z engine yesterday.
battle of the bellies
Haha yes you did thrash it.. looks like fun guys. Love it
You can buy a $13 obd2 wifi scan tool for your phone
I see your Subaru has a VGPS system installed too...
(Variable Gauge Position System) :D
i mean, i have a scan tool......
Hey Andrew, just wondering why you went with the process west top mount over a front mount? Is it a worthwhile upgrade over stock STI intercooler?
I had a 1uz do exactly this. Idle like it had hugggue cams and spit flames out the intake. Ended up being seized bearings on the iacv. 7 bucks worth of parts had me chasing my tail for days.
I would've brought it to at least one car meet and told everyone it was on a stupid aggressive cam lmao! I mean that idle sounds bad, but it just sounds so good at the same time! But maybed thats just the rotary guy in me coming out.
Every vid needs mechanical stig or turbo yoda for the win!!!👌👌
If it makes you feel better Benny, I was thinking timing too - intake flames and idling/running like a 2 legged dog are generally good signs.
If the code points to an open or short why wouldnt you go check wiring first ?
Haha maybe blind faith in a 25+ year old wiring harness?
What military grade vacuum line is holding that gauge in the vent! It's hung on for dear life through more than it's fair share of episodes now.
Lol. there is actually a cable tie under there somewhere
Still haven't fixed that door mirror lol 👍
That race track looks like a bloody construction site.
Boost gauge trying to go north for the winter.
More "west" though... at that end of the return road...
Or just maybe, it wanted to head south... not turn east.
This could have been a great video but it seemed like it was solely made to make fun of motive dvd's fans. I follow Street Machine, 1320, Cletus, Mighty Car Mods and the list goes on. This is the only channel that never shows appreciation for its fans and actually went out if their way to make a video bagging their fans. It's so hard to be a fan and I've tried but this takes the cake and I've even purchased your videos on UA-cam and DVD and this feels like a kick in the face.
People on Facebook groups usually comment with something regarding their own experiences with that particular car and it's up to the person who asked for help to decipher what's happening and make a decision to tackle it themselves or go to a pro. I've helped two people on Facebook get their rb25 running from my own experiences and all my suggestion was to unplug the CTS connector and it worked. Also I bet if someone had the luxury of being in front of the car like Andrew and Benny were they could have come up with the same solution.
anderson silva if you think we bagged our fans then you are making this video about you and taking things way too seriously.
Our channel is based around educating our viewers with facts, data and results. We try to keep them away from the confusion of Facebook land.
This is not an insult to anyone. It’s showing that sometimes you need to get proper advice, not ask the internet, which quote often does more damage and more confusion unless it specially tailored, which it often isn’t .
@@MotiveVideo obviously this video is isn't about me but there's lots of people asking advice on Facebook and forums and it's still making a mockery of doing so. It's a shame to have such negativity in these videos. All the others UA-camrs previously mentioned have all positive and inspiring videos and get more people into the car scene even on a budget or with plenty of funds but wanting to learn new skills and do it for them selves, which I applaud
Sorry have to agree. I am a motive fan but andrew can be pretty arogant sometimes. Motive can produce some great content but after all these years it hasn't got anywhere near the subs of other younger channels. Wonder why......
@@James-dx9ho it sux because it could be a massive channel and it has great content but a new host would be great, image if Benny was the host
How do I make that tool at 10:40 ?
And I never thumbed down a video until now
If a oscilloscope was used initially, I.E. cam/crank correlation, as well as compression, it would have saved way more time than taking everything apart. I think you give your mechanic way too much credit
Andrew try find an IHI vf48 turbo for your wrx!!!
Does anyone know what go pro they are using?
Haha, my 2j did this with a fkd crank angle sensor it broke up around 4k and had like a fake 2 step, although there was no flamage out of anything near the intake. Then wouldn't idle at all after a week, i thought it was the coils as it was a progressive faliure..nope was the crank sensor, lol after changing the coils, leads and cam sensor...the power of semi blind deduction....Although all that shit was old and cracked anyways so at the end it was a good refresh!
I had that intake backfire issue with my bmw and it was the cam position sensor that caused it.
davidgtrr34 that was our first thought in this case
Nah bro, gotta be a nitrous backfire bro straight up bro
The exhaust kinda sound like a horse running 😂😂
Suprised to see JB in a seat that is clearly not the right size for him
Need everyone’s opinion! Should I keep my 2005 WRX CSE8 or sell it and get a R34 GTT?
ALL jokes and bullshit aside, the first thing I said to myself was cam timing because fire out of the intake means that the intake valve(s) are opening when the combustion happens.
Missed the mark with this vid but was still an interesting watch!
Missed the mark bigtime
At 10:30 song name please
it's a subaru.... That's where you went wrong
did you fix the BOV for the night runs? It sounds way louder hahaha
Legotruck82 a blow off valve ninja fixed it
Gfb?
Scooby do mystery solved
Velma - "It was the old man!"
Old man - "damm those pesky kids!"
supercheap auto offer a car scan service for only $14 dollarydoos
Ohhhh its mighty car mods guy
Yes it’s back
🤣 I HAVE A SCAN TOOL AT HOME it cost me about $25 all up, for the hardware and software
but i too have a big glorious beard 🤣 👌
Yeah but i bet you couldn't a continuity test :s according to Andrew thats second only to brain surgery.
@@projectzed5766 how much money have you got?
So Facebook was right and there was no need for 90% of the video. I respect you put it up anyway but kind of makes all the talk at the beginning pointless.
Flux capacitor
Say what you will about EJ's. But after all these years, they still sound the tits! Great driving!
Garbage... I 've had enough reputable mechanics throw parts and money at cars because I was too busy at my own job. To the point where I've told them to keep a bricked car that they without approval spent a heap of money on.
Had a huge nightmare with dealership repairing a brand new VE Sportwagon, stutter under load that cleared up through rev range, they changed a myriad of parts (new trans, torque converter, among other things) 5 times back and forth with the car, loan cars, Director of the dealership ended up loaning his own car because it became such a huge problem that they just couldn't fix... was a fault with drive by wire... professionals at a dealership bahahaha
i reckon the timing belt has jumped.
29th out of 90 cars, is a good result, probably one of the cheaper cars there as well.
Danger to Manifold
Your beer buddy just installed cams when you werent looking. Problem solved
Your on the wrong groups , and a scan tool is cheap. Compression and leakdown test are always the go to
Kinda a roundabout concept with the whole critique of the help you asked for...good vid otherwise I guess. Maybe you just weren't smart enough to see the confusion in the whole thing
I agree
But the internet says you guys don't like each other????
VX Blub it does? Hmmm. Strange as Andrew and Benny are good mates. Benny works at Andrew’s events.
@@MotiveVideoI know. That is from back in the day when you did the 180sx with MCM. People had all sort of theories then. I think it was also mentioned in one of the vids? 👍
Simple... Your inlet valve on cyl 4 is toasted or any other cyl... Pull the engine out and rebuild..
Amir Pomen huh?
@@MotiveVideo haha definately i fall in the wrong online diagnosis team...lol
majority of internet advice is trash but don't be so negative some of it is golden. However those that haven't a clue shouldn't comment. I guessed in the right problem area but my advise would be take it to a professional. My expertise is in computers and troubleshooting requires step by step information gathering and testing. A single response can't help but a back and forth can eventually help, if you're getting advice from an expert. However they're hard to find these days.
Normally it is a common issue, but that was not it.
Good ol' facebook mechanics haha
a lot of facebook technicians butt hurt about this video lol his point is don't go buying and changing parts without getting the advice of a certified specialist... that has a beer gut and beard.
Lumpy cams ftw
Now do a UA-cam comments one. 😂🤣
Sounds normal to me
Coilpacks are a common failure point on some of these ej series engines
Yeah but that's not going to cause the ignition timing to be that far off that it's spitting flames out the vacume ports on the inlet manifold... Is it? No it's not dude
@ChrisHallett83 stfu you muppet your another troll with no knowledge.
Shrink wrap with a lighter lol...
'We use the most expensive tool for spark plugs but a good old bic will do for this job' hahaha
Wouldve been faster if he had air or cordless tools. Who uses strictly hand ratchets these days?
So why is this “the guy” you want working on ur wrx ? Rigolis no good ?
k24/20vtec its EJ25 delete
You both have to go on diets haha
Matthew Serrano you need to not be a wanker that only comments to make themselves feel better about their life.
Motive Video
Only saying you need to go on a diet Jesus princess only looking out for your health.
My life is fine cheers though you arrogant fat lard
I dare you to ask UA-cam comments to fix your car 🙈
Actually I'm not even sure if you'll read this as UA-cam comments are never good
Nick Taylor some are. Like this one 👍
@@MotiveVideo So, you ignore my identical comment of doing a UA-cam comments one posted before Nick but compliment his comment....okay.....🤨🤔 Was it because the laughs were added?
Oh well, at least great minds think alike. 😎
yur timing jump a bit
Heheheheee...
hmm.. you probably asked a facebook group full of amateurs. Because 20 answers and all are bullshit... ask a correct group and you really can find solutions...
Keyboard mechanics
Stupid clickbait title, funny video tough.
Not realy a mystery. If explosion is happening in the , or should I say out the intake, it means ignition point is happening with one or more valves open. Eier stuck valves, or belt skipped , so cam and crank timing is out of sync. Solution: set timing corect with alignment points for true tdc on crank and cams. Shoot base timing and set corect. If still problem , engine out and complete head work. Now I'll watch 😂
Dammed.. Stuck full open iacv? 😵
So you were wrong, just as the video proved. If someone had listened to your advice they would be at the stage of the engines pulled out and found nothing.
Your advice is exactly the issue.
Best way to fix it if you take it crap has motor out of it put a 2JZ in it do Jay-Z's are 100% better then the Nissan Motors I know you need some guys going to get pissed don't get me wrong I do like the Nissan's but the 2JZ is undisputable
this is a "budget" track car. how much would it cost to do a conversion? serious question.