Rack & Pinion Steering | 50HP Lawn Mower Pt. 2
Вставка
- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- After deciding to put a 50 horsepower Predator 670cc V twin on a lawn mower, we knew we had to redesign the suspension and steering for better and safer handling.
We install a steering kit, complete with a rack and pinion, ball joints, and adjustable tie rods to mount to our spindles. We discovered that we needed to move the rack and pinion farther back in the chassis for a decent turning radius. We then ran the steering shaft and universal joint up to a steering wheel.
Thanks for Watching!
Facebook: goo.gl/VR6mh2
Instagram: bit.ly/3T8njaF
----USE CODE "CC10" FOR 10% OFF AT GOPOWERSPORTS.COM----
(Discount applies to mini bike, street kart, and off road kart parts only)
40 series driver clutch: goo.gl/t2LgUd
Springer spindle kit: goo.gl/bDaSyn
Steering gear (please call for complete kit): goo.gl/Ugs1yu
Go Power Sports: bit.ly/3QKyODE
NEW MERCH: www.cars-camera...
Equipment we use: www.amazon.com...
The following video features activities performed in controlled environments by knowledgeable persons. DO NOT attempt to duplicate, re-create, or perform the same or similar activities at home, as personal injury or property damage may result. CARS AND CAMERAS, the persons shown in this video and ANY CONTRIBUTOR, ARE NOT LIABLE FOR ANY such injury or damage. ALL CARSANDCAMERAS CONTENT IS FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY.
Cars and Cameras makes no representation about the sufficiency of any safety precautions and equipment used in this video.
Plasma cutter: Try dropping the air pressure down until it stops popping, make sure your ground is good and lastly put a inline drier/filter. Should fix the issue
Mark Thompson was bouta comment the same looks like way too much air pressure.
Was just about to say the same thing. My Miller is nice and smooth. Looks like too much pressure.
Also try removing any paint and or rust in the cutting area. Makes for a better ground.
Also check your dial on plasma see if it is on the right setting sounds intermediate not constant. Good show guys keep it up
I'm pretty sure it's from moisture in the air line.
With big V twin power, we needed to beef up the steering. This should do the trick! Think it'll wheelie?
CarsandCameras Maybe
Ike's looks better
Yes it will.
Hello John. I am Jacob Cichy im a big fan and i was showing my moms boyfriend the pt 4 of the chopper build (first road test) and i heard you mention something about wanting and old honda bobber?. I have a 1982 honda cm250. I do have the title, It runs but does not have a gas tank. I cant find one anywhere i figured you are the guy who would know how to weld one up and get this bike on the road again! Id love to see it on the channel let me know if you are interested. Thank you for your time
Put a turbo on it
Ike's welds are better
jacques vella yup
agreed, looks like he got better penetration as well
I gotta ask. Anyone else really annoyed by their plasma cutter? Seriously makes me cringe on the inside when I hear the "pulsing".
Somthings wrong with it?
Yes
@@michelebeck4311 yes look up plasma cutting videos and youll instantly notice the difference.
Dude Von Brostein it's the cheapest plasma cutter
@@claytongowin9897 Are you sure that's it? My buddy has a cheapo and it sounds like a normal plasma cutter. It just won't cut anywhere near the thickness of material the box claims it will.
"tighten down on Deez nuts 8:05
Lol I bet they had to cut right there because they couldn't keep straight face after the line.
Lol right when i heard i paused the vid and went straight to the comments
Got em! LOL
CameronOnTheDrums same lol
Khalil Stovall gat eem
Welding is like sex. Looks don't matter as long as you have good penetration.
Good one!!
And plenty of lube!!
Yup
Jamie Buxton lol
A good place on the ground will do fine.
Ike’s is better but just by a hair
Yup
agreed, looks like he got better penetration as well
Welds identical for the most part. The gold star will be awarded to the first one to figure out the plasma cutter. Do love your videos keep it up.
Ike's welds > John's welds
Ikes
Random Ryan is
Yup
but John's doing pretty good too :D
To judge the welding i will call it a draw because ike has the proper width but the beads are sorta jerky looking, john has nice smooth rolling beads but the weld is a little narrow and rounded which means the weld didnt penetrate quite as deep but both welds looks like they wont go anywhere anytime soon so both a good job, now put down the easy welder and pick up a SMAW stick welder and see what you really got lol
When 50HP ain't enough
*BOOOOOOOOOOOST*
I’d be curious to see if an old smog pump (or two) from a late 80’s Chevy 350 would supply enough air to make a power difference if feared properly, essentially a poor mans supercharger for small engines.
dude... they'll die a turbo vtwin is nuts !!
Jake Roadkill boosted a car with leaf blowers .
George Rokosky didn’t they get like 3-5 more hp on a v8 I don’t remember but imagine a leaf blower on a tiny v twin (tiny compared to a v8) you might get a significant bost in power because your moving so little weight but idk
Jakes Karts idk but it would take up a ton of space.
Am I the only one that noticed they cut way too much off the frame?
Then Ike stands on it and says "did I just bend it?" * rolls eyes *
You should reinforce where you cut the huge holes / U shaped channels or you might have problems with it twisting and breaking when its up an running...
There isn't any weight on that part of the frame, and we end up X bracing underneath as well.
Good to know you are bracing it, the corners are where it needs to be strong... Big triangular gussets in the corners underneath would work as well...
I always love seeing these notifications
As much as I hate youtubers getting stuff for free cause they youtubers... BUT will some company like everlast sponsor these guys and give them a half ass decent plasma cutter and welder. That cutter is hot garbage, would have better luck with oxy acetylene torch than that thing.
Chris Buesa that would not be good they would probably turn on oxygen first
I love how all this small scale hot rodding stuff would translate over to full size cars no problem. The great part is how cheaply you can work on stuff this size. You can learn to do everything without spending a fortune. Then some day have the skill to do something full sized without having to learn the expensive way.
God dang... I hope i'm not the only one reminded of "Home Improvement" by that build...
Ikes weld looks stronger but yours looks nicer
Ike’s weld looks better
Craig Boozer yup
Sorry ike, but i have to go with john on that weld. BUT, you do normally have the better welds, this one was just by looks, strength wise and quality of the weld, ike had the better weld, johns was just smoother
Sorry I'm going with Ikes weld on this one! Looks better, cleaner, and stronger! But It'll be fine!
Ike's welds were the proper color. You both had nice even coverage, but one of those jobs looked a little bit over heated. Hint hint, it's the one that looked more blueish . But it's hard to say, because that could have been due to lighting or color correction. Ike's looked a little beefier as well.
They both look good
Logan Nichols yup
Guys, you do a great job - Love every. single. video. But as a former CNC machinist, every time I see you drilling into metal without coolant/lubricant....well, I cry a little, that's all. Thumbs up, anyway, but #savethebits !! ;)
I really enjoy watching your videos!
Why don’t you use Ackerman steering? Seems to be a fairly simple concept/application and should really help the steering plow. I don’t think I’ve seen many (if any) go kart builders talk about it in their videos.
they have ackerman steering it's just setup wrong.
Holy Crap dude... u guys butchered the shit out of that chassis. Good job all and all.
Tighten down on “ Deez nutz” 😂😂
Sand blast the whole thing and then paint it all a mat black with Cars and Cameras in red on ther side of the hood.
Love the build!!! Can't wait to start building my mower been looking for a steering rack. Might be using that one. I have a 1986 roper rally I am using with a 22 hp. Vtwin Briggs
“Tighten deez nuts” ha goteeem dang there building in go karts and stuff got so advanced I miss the “it’ll be fine moments”
Man I stuck I have to wait till next Monday
Lol great build guys
This thing looks so sketchy
Great video once again fellas. Since you're target is 50 hp for the monster mower please tell me it's gonna be another N.A. Build. A FAT TURBSKIE would really help hitting the goal. Maybe 2? What do ya say? Pull out all the stops ,go for broke and separate the MEN from the BOYS! Take the crown of custom built minibikes. Guaranteed to spank any other garages build on UA-cam. FOR SURE. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT'S NEXT. LATER DUDES
Ikes looked better but not by much both looked pretty good
Both welds (would have) worked, Ike's is a Sunday go to meeting weld, Johns is a get it done nobody will see it weld... Many good points raised, study your geometries and what has to happen, it could save your butt, I know this thing will probably spend more time on its back wheels anyway so maybe outside of turning it around to do another wheelie, handling won't be much of a issue anyway.. (oh God why do I have a feeling this will be on the Grand Prix, maybe not it'll tear up some serious lawn) lol...... :D
Deez nuts 😂
someone pleeaasseee send them a plasma cutter . That one sucks
Antonio Napoli let start a go fund me to bye them a highper therm x65
They just need to adjust pressure
I think ike only paid like 100 or 200 on it so cant complain to much about it
Ikes is a little better. Clean the paint off of the cut area before plasma cutting. That's a tiny unit and you need all the connectivity you can get. Steady and consistent is the name of the game in metal work.
Half of ikes looks like shit the other half is mint
Yours was too fast too hot & probably not enough penetration in comparison.... but your straight line accuracy is TRUELY impressive!
Ike, more Model A ! PLEASE!!!
Both because your friendship is building it not your ego's 😊😊😊😋
Not in the weight, sorry to say. But I'm loving it watching you two guys get after it!!!
Don't you guys think that you should put some steel back where you cut away for the steering rack. As a matter of fact there is a lot of reinforcing you should be doing. That 670 has a lot of torque I'm thinking the frame needs some build-up to handle it.
Great video guys it looks like you need to reinforce the front of the frame and also you will need to reinforce the rear of the frame when you install the new axle due to basically the frame is nothing more than glorified sheet metal lol keep up the good work guys
Freemoves
UA-cam
Only think that i can say about your welds and plasma work, is clean the paint and rust off!!! Tryin to use a plasma or weld with paint still on the part produces poor results... i love all your guys' builds!!! Keep it up!!!
You guys should get a Honda Odyssey fr250 I just got one a week ago and did a 340cc snowmobile engine swap. It would be awesome to see an old school go kart like that done up by you guys. Mine is beastly
Get a spring tractor seat for those jumps, those landings can be hard on the back.
At what point are we going to see the duo upgrade to modifying VW Beetles? Seems they're well on their way at this point....
wanna know how to really make america great again.....building up boring machines into over powered beasts keep up these builds guys
High horsepower on a tractor frame, even if it is a garden tractor, y’all know what that means? It’s time for a good ole tractor pull!
My name is John too ,but John Ike's is more uniform and even, yet what do I know I can't weld at all!
both look good great job edbonjovi1
Up north we call it bolt in vs "unboltable". By the way , youalls play banjo around them parts ?
With that being a mower I say both welds but need to as fish plates i would anyways I'm good at braking stuff
Both welds are ok not perfecto Ike has a slight edge on form. Do a front wheel drive kart. Curious
The worst part about Wednesday is having to wait till Monday again!
Structurally ike has ya beat. You need to weld past the ends, with 50hp it could crack there.
Johns weld looks better.. but neither of you prepped, so they are both probably crap!! Lol
Ikes Weld! But youre getting better and better, John. Both welds are pretty nice!
I say both welds looked good and strong. And once again great video and I'm dieing to see how the mower looks when it's done. Keep up the great work fellas
John’s because it’s smaller so it won’t get in the way but it’s the same width so it’s just as strong 10/10 John!!!!
Lol Ike’s was better
lol....yours looks better...but... ikes loos like a stack of dimes so I'm going with ike
If you boys ever tried a new plasma cutter you would toss that one out of a moving pick up! lol
you remeber what happened to the guy that invented the segway? That's why you should always wear a helmet!
Im always excited to see new content from you two i love that garage building and the best is everyone can afford that type of building and its the most fun you can get for the buck 👍🏻😎 btw that plasma cutter had some issues huh ?
You might want to try decreasing the pressure a little but on the plasma cutter and drain the water out of the air compressor
Ike's, John you need to travel faster and bring down the size of your bead.
Looks pretty sweet! As long as the welds hold that's all that counts... 😋
U guys should do something with tbe 2 engine frankenstien bike and 2 speed mini bike again
hey you guys neeed to put an air dryer on your plasma cutter .it will make a world of difference
Guess you don't need to measure twice and cut once if you've got a grinder and a welder...
Ike’s weld is better yours has burn through
Unboltable rack and pinion= serviceable = keep cutting till it fits.
I’m an ex welder I did it for over 20 years. John’s is better but Ike’s is good too.
Something is wrong with your plasma cutter!
One whole American dollar says it'll be faster than the drag rail with that engine
Ikes is prettier,but damn john awesome job bro!...
Both your welds are great but Jon just slow down a bit and it'll be great.
You boys really need an air dryer and some new tips for that plasma torch.
needle is rising on the SICK-O-METER!!!!
Ike makes better bacon.
Both your welds look fine. It'll be fine....
Ike's welds are better, John was moving too fast
John and Ike ..try turning down the air on the cutter..it may make smoother cuts..that or it has moisture in the air line...but that's not important..ya'll are making the best decision to get rid of the transaxle for a live axle..don't forget to make a set of wheelie bars..cheers from Bama
It has water in it
Johns looks better bit who got better penetration on the metal?
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE pretty please with sugar on top, would you do a video about ACKERMAN ANGLE?
Ill try to add one in a vid
I think where you cut the big holes in the frame , I would of Stuck a piece of angle iron inside of the frame and also on top of the frame since you are using the front part of the frame to hold your steering unit . You Don't seem to have ALOT of Frame left . you could still add a piece of 1" angle Iron to the top of the frame and take it back about 18" to get more support . Just a thought .
Ike's weld looked better sorry. Have a great day . Keith
Hey, what happened to the 1930 Model T project? Sure would have liked to see it finished, and you driving it.
Its in my garage
I wish y'all would do a 670 cc mini bike build!
You guys just made that tractor frame junk. If your brakes fail and you hit some thing the frame will go up and smash you motor all to garbage. Also it will go straight down under any pressure even hitting bump s
MEASURE TWICE CUT ONCE !! ,C'mon guys you know the old saying. Love the channel, keep it up.
Y'all should make the axle as long as you can with out it looking funny so y'all can have it handle better since it will be wider and stuff yall are awesome keep up the good work guys plz
I feel like your plasma isn't being grounded properly?, it shouldn't cut like that, love the content keep it up!!
Cheep plasma cutter
Isaac's weld look better.
Yo Ikes weld looks like it got more penetration than your John no offence but I'll go with old school experience and say Ikes looks better . I can see his swirl pattern and yours kinda looks Slaggy.
You all take it easy
Be blessed Jah Rastafari Selassie I Jah
Lol. Thanks
Isaac it'll be fine oh yeah any time brother.
Be blessed
I think your plasma cutter is faulty.....
I dare say you're gonna have to brace that frame all to hell
Ikes is better. Your weld was too fast.
Ikes looks better
Love the video super awesome I always enjoy your guyses builds you guys are super awesome keep up the good work you guys are amazing
Like the project, but you guys need to have another look at that steering geometry. You've got a big dose of anti-ackerman at the moment, and it will tend to understeer a like a pig without a lot of lateral load transfer. I'm sure the v twin will have enough grunt to get oversteer, but will be way more fun in the slow corners if done better. Good luck!