Elektron Model:Samples and Ess Senpai | haQ attaQ
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2024
- Is the Elektron Model:Samples a True Elektron Music Machine? Why get a Model:Samples instead of a used Digitakt and whats this battery handle bussiness about? These are some of the questions that Ess from Elektron answers while also showing us the power packed into the Model:Samples. Check this out!
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I just got mine. The learning process commences. At age 52, learning new machines and techniques is a source of great joy.
62 and waiting on the delivery of a Digitone Keys. I agree, learning hardware is great, much different than learning yass (yet another software synth).
I agree. This box is pretty straight forward and a joy to learn. I love the simplicity and available elegant complexity that is also available if need be.
I just purchased one as well, add to my home studio for my electronic compositions. I'm clocking in at 70.
I began to study music until now (47). But never too late for our dreams. I just got a electribe and a model samples too... keep learning ´til the end!
I grew up on MPC's and samplers. I sold my Elektron years back. A friend gave me his Model:Samples as a gift to get me back into music production and my God I am blown away. So simple, yet so flexible! I like it better than the OP1.
Do you own an OP-1? I am thinking of getting one and wondering if it is worth it. I like the drum kits i have heard and the result of layering drums. Cheers.
I love the way you have emphasized certain points with text. Not that it’s entirely new, just that you have done it in a way that focuses attention on important ideas - important to the discussion or important to you, but also worth underlining for viewers. This could especially help for people not as quick with English, or with a given accent or phrasing. I just appreciate the thoughtfulness of your videos - in this case, taking a simple graphical approach and putting it to a helpful purpose. Your guest did a great job for you and Elektron too. Cheers to both of you for making this instrument come to life here.
It's December 2020, I got my M:S and i was suggested this video literally the next day. The best demo. As a novice to samplers, I find this video much helpful! Best explanation.
I got this device as my first elektron device and I absolutely love it. So fun to use and well thought out. Of course, there is always a thing or two one would want, but overall I am very happy with it.
I can’t wait for this thing. Adding sound locks is huge and opens up so much potential. The only requests I have is a shift+decay function to add attack to the Envelope and a filter EG if possible. Seems like they’ve all but maxed out the DSP on this thing. Regardless, I’m still getting it, and I sold my Digitakt to do so. The Digitakt is a great machine, and it’s a very powerful machine, but having most of its functionality on a knob per function device is too enticing. My workflow and the kind of music I make requires constant tweaking of parameters and a lot of adjustments on trig conditions. This became a pain on the Digitakt because it’s all menu/page driven. Having everything in front of you greatly improves my workflow and makes me much more willing to experiment. In turn, I make sounds and drum patterns I never would’ve made before. Like Ess said, each person will find something they like in each device. For me, it’s the Model:Samples. Adding sound locks firmly placed this into Elektron’s already solid repertoire and it’s deserving of its spot.
Simon and Jakob make a good duo. I really like your editting the content, it makes it really clear.
I agree with the guy who wanted an app for loading samples into it. I’m not sure it has to be Elektron doing the app, we’ve seen 3rd party things for both Rytm and Digitakt (Digitakt also got a librarian in web browsers that support MIDI, or Web MIDI?). I want to sample random stuff with my iPhone, basic sample trim, sort it into folders if making a kit, and transfer to the Model:Samples. Ess did a great job explaining what the point of this box is, a different workflow! 👊👌 Edit: Oh I forgot to say, really good video, thanks Thomann. Jk, Mr.HaQ.
Ngl pros of having a mac is the ability to text sounds or email them quickly, I have a iPhone 5s and a iPad Pro 11 inch MacBook Pro 2017 and model samples, now not using ableton except to record final tracks but mainly using the samples and keeping everything else off till I get poppin on there!!!
This app now exists. Search Elektron Transfer in the App Store.
I like how the combo drifted to IOS and my question was answered . Class compliant .Boom Its already on the way .
Class Compliant audio and midi?!?! BOOOOOM! Total Bonus! 🔥🔥
This is some great insight into this little device... I was kinda feeling ambivalent about it until seeing this video. Thanks, Jakob for revving up my GAS!
Great interview and nice video editing. The callouts and zooms are very helpful and enhance the information.
I already have the model samples and love the work flow but adding sample lock is a real game changer
Samples locks! Yesssssss
love your comment editing on this! well done J. You are killing it on these videos.
M:s is my first Elektron device! I love it!
Got my Samples last week. Nice video. Really intuitive piece of gear, first box I could really wrap my head around. Been having a lot of fun last few days pairing this with the NDLR.
Well done Jakob , great interview and a master class from Ess !!
Best Model Samples video!
I got it... its fukkin amazing!!!
my problem with the Elektron units is decisions - decisions decisions decisions! I WANT THEM ALL ! goddamit ! them all,-
Get an Octatrack! You'll be busy quite a time learning stuff. It's a bit pricey but at the end of the day it saves you money coz you don't need much more other gear.
I have the MS and the MC they're really fun to play synced up together with some pedals !
I just got it in. I’ve been using a Yamaha RM1X for ages but it’s starting to show its age and since I don’t create apt of new beats, it requires me to dive into the manual every time when I write a new drum track, because it’s that complicated.
Now having said that, the Elektron’s manual requires some quick start sections to be honest.
But it’s not as complicated as the RM1x but it takes a bit of time. For example selecting a sample requires you to press the button to keep it locked up the track. I’d you don’t click the button after you change to another track your selected sample is gone; which is idiotic as you audition it you’d expect it to be implicitly selected.
But it’s really a nice simple drum machine, that allows you to quickly draft up your drum tracks. I just finished a backing track for Falco’s Amadeus, where I used it for my first project. And immediately dove in to do AHA’s take on me drum track. It’s kind of addictive and that’s good.
I’m not yet sure how to create odd time signature beats.
Like 5/4th and 6/8ths as I use those a lot too.
It looks like something that would be used on the Nostromo in alien, because the interior the Nostromo had, had that design aesthetic.
Great video. I learnt a lot of extra things I hadn't from other videos.
😂 kul att höra svenska på slutet med! #lättroadenfredagkväll.
Got mine yesterday, amazing! I don't like menu diving UI, so the Digitakt never appeals to me. But this, I got some basic trip hop thing going in less than 40 mins without looking at the manual, that is a huge plus! Of course I'll RTFM heh. Great interview, thanks!
Jakob: "I had to give up my dreams of a Digitakt..." 😥
ESS: "🤭 (giggle)"...
Great stuff Jakob. I just got one and can’t wait to get stuck in. The battery option isn’t available yet I don’t think? One tiny thing, I’m surprised you didn’t sit the other way round so that you were next to the LCD display. Thanks. Lee
Add an app that could load samples into it and I’d be in. Not a fan of using a PC to do it. Looks cool though. Nice editing too, clarifications in just the right places.
I’m still getting it but yes that would be huge. I’m hoping since they’re talking so much about the class-compliant usb and focusing on smartphone usage means something is in the works. If not, I suspect someone will make it so just like someone did for the Analog Rytm.
apps.apple.com/us/app/transfer-samples/id1522995351
16:00 - Remember, purists... Even your own knob has more than one function.
If I could load samples from my phone straight to the model:samples through an app......
That would be so cool
The fact that they’re making the cellphone streaming such a prominent feature leads me to believe they will do this. Either them or someone else will make one. Just give it time ;)
Haut Strange I hope so 🤞🏽
pieslice I hope so as well :) someone did it for the Analog Rytm so I’m thinking it’ll happen.
Awesome interview! Does Model:Samples allow you to slice samples to the sequencer and then randomize the slices or start points with the lfos?
Kul! Den där maskinen växer snabbt!
Den e ju tung! 👊🏼
Wow! That sounds and patterns reminds me Aphex Twin :)
I so want that retrig live record function on Digitakt 😭. And the Apply quantize.
loving Senpai 😄
thîs is the real deal i needed on this machine
I like the look of the device, i.e, white with grey and orange, instead of the usual all-black. One thing about black devices is that things are harder to see, especially in dim lighting.
fantastic machine!
like korg esx,but with improving almost in everything.
Stream audio directly into the iPad? Via usb? I wouldn’t mind picking one up
Given your previous video about your apprehension for TSR19, wanted to comment that this video is excellent!! In depth and explored many factors/features of the Sample previously unknown (to me anyhow). Looking forward to seeing some more...
Also, looks like that F/W update just surfaced:
www.elektron.se/support/?connection=modelsamples#resources&
I have this, it rules but how exactly did you put chords in again? kinda brushed right past it
Forgive me for my ignorance as I’m not an IPad musician (but I do have the m:s), but why is class compliant usb such a cool feature? What would you use it for? Someone school me 🎧
External USB gear has to be class compliant in order to be able to connect to and work with iDevices. iOS doesen’t work like normal operating systems (OS) and so there’s no way of downloading drivers for external USB gear like one does on Desktop/Laptop computers. Class compliant is like saying “plug n Play”. No extra drivers needed. Like Ess states in the video, M:s is class compliant and allows for streaming MIDI and Audio in and out of the iPad/iPhone. This can be done over USB without having to add a sound interface to the setup.
Jakob Haq thankyou for the in depth response Jakob! Ah, so now I understand....great video by the way, the editing is very well done and it’s one of the most informative on the m:s out there 🎧
My pleasure, and thank you for your kind words. The camera and switcher crew did a great job on the raw footage so I had great material to work with for the editing on my iPad.
Hey did you ever finish building the echo base from musicpcb? How did it sound and will you ever put up the video on the wiring for it?
Yeah the Curcuit and wiring is done but the enclosure isn’t finished. I thought I’d wait with making a video on it since most of my viewers (at that time) weren’t interested in that type content, so I needed to space the project out. Also I need the enclosure to be finished. Panel is on the way though. I’m also building a second one because the final product is going to be stereo. A video will be done when it’s finished but I have no clue when that’ll be though. 😅
the battery handle is in the same dimension as winds of winter
That was fun :D
Swinging brought me here, nudge nudge LOL
With USB Audio in
And Resampling feature it would be a little Monater Machine
So a Digitakt?
Should have shown the easy class compliant audio connection to iPad, I need to figure out my portable battery situation for the samples then I can use the headphone output of the samples and usb to aum to both sequence midi and do all the audio, only part that sucks is no sample uploading app yet
apps.apple.com/us/app/transfer-samples/id1522995351
wait, so you can sample audio from iOS device when it is connected via USB ?? Or i'm missunderstanding it ?
No. This device has no sampling capabilities. However, when you play audio from a device connected via usb, the audio is mixed with the audio from the device itself. Additionally, audio is output via usb which makes recording the m:s without an audio interface possible.
@@doppelganger8659 lol that was a really complicated way of saying...
No, you drag and drop samples into it through USB and it has audio out through USB...
So, I gather this unit doesn’t sync to other hardware? Just receives and sends note info via midi? 😔
Incorrect. You can read all about how SYNC works in Model:Samples under section 11.3 MIDI (11.31 SYNC) on page 38 in the manual >>> www.elektron.se/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Model-Samples-User-Manual_ENG.pdf
Such a easy to use device, perfect for beginners and masters. Sweden knows how to make good shit, ill tell ya that.
Wieso trägt der ne Mütze? Ist es kalt? Über die Kopfhörer hört er gerade was?
what's the ppq/resolution on this unit?
Simple answer - 96 ppq
I must be getting to old as I watched this twice a don't really understand in what environment I would use this with my I pad that I can't already do with my DAWs that I don't need a magnifying glass to see the screen with
russ8889 the point is you barely need the screen at all. It is nearly knob per function with almost no menu diving. I can make patterns faster than I could I could play them live with this device. My job involves 90% computer work. I don’t want to look at a screen during my music making time. The other nice thing is that this is just ready to go. It has one job. Making music. It’s really good at it. I have many ios apps and while I could in theory do many of the same things I can do with this on an iPad, that sounds tedious and not fun. This is loads of fun to use, great tactile response, (nothing quite like turning a knob) and doesn’t give me eye fatigue.
@@doppelganger8659 this is why I'm getting one.
I don't need to spend any more time staring at glowing rectangles.
Jakob: "I don't like randomness? " hmm... I don't buy any machine without a random feature(s) ...of course you need to "leash the randomness " otherwise randomness is useless
Yes, one of my favourite features.
I'm a dane, and I know what a knob is hehe 😜
the more I try to learn about this machine the more lost I get
Did you end up getting one?
Elektron seems like they've never used a Yamaha, Roland or Korg...
So they kind of use they're own workflow that feels completely unintuitive to anyone coming from the other corps...
But it makes perfect sense in an Elektron kind of way...
@@BendApparatus hey I did get this same machine.
Mine wont record right there are two ways to record something but it never works right.it never does what is shows in other videos I tried to follow the steps but it doesnt record right.But I can play it live thats about it.But the pads are good and can be expressive using the roll feature.I like it but I wish I could record stuff to it,it never works though.
@@dragonmodel9262 🤔
That's weird.
Recording can be done in 2 ways.
1. Push the circle button then just push the little number pads in the spot you want the sounds to play.
You do have to switch to a different track for each instrument using the big pads.
2. Push the circle button THEN the triangle button while still holding the circle button. That puts you in live record mode. Then play your beat using the big track buttons.
you can switch to quantized or unquantized mode. By toggling the above button combo a couple of times.
It's fiddly but the screen will let you know which mode you're in.
There's also a click/metronome you can activate through another button combo FUNC + 🔁.
That is unless you're talking about some type of hardware issue...
@@BendApparatushey I appreciate the reply.
I will try this and see if I have any luck .hey thank you.
Do you have to set the tempo or how many bars it will play when you record something if that makes sense?because it said you can do a live recording but I willtry this first,hey ty I will let you know if it worked
@@dragonmodel9262 you don't have to set the tempo unless you want to.
The default tempo seems to be 120bpm. I'm 1 of those people who always forgets tempo when making beats...so all my beats are 120bpm...😅
Default bar length is 1 bar (16 steps).
You can make it longer by pushing FUNC + PAGE then using the 🍊 knob to increase it.
But here's the thing.
By leaving it at 1 bar (16 steps) you can try to learn the sequencer's probability and conditional trigger functions to make a 1 bar pattern sound like 2 or 3 even 4 bars long!
There's a lot of power and wackiness in this odd white slate. It's just a matter of trying different stuff.
TIPS!
1. Make a habit of pushing the ⏺️ button after you finish recording live to get out of it and not accidentally record knob twiddling onto your pattern.
2. Once you get a groove going you like. Push FUNC + 🔧 button to quick/temp save to a 📋. So if you knob twiddle yourself into a mess you can push FUNC + PATTERN to quick load your saved groove again!
Remember it's a temp save so you will still need to permanently save by going into the 🔧 menu and pattern save. I will admit this thing's save menu is kind of confusing. So let me know if you need some tips.
I'm also learning this thing.
JESUS CHRIST PLAY SOME GOD DAMN MUSIC TOO
Too much juice yo
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Stimming's review sort of convinced me to pass on this model.
Ok