This was awesome and eye-opening for someone coming fresh to model:samples. Couldn't find anyone else messing with the machine like this. Are you still planning a video on generative playing with it? Looking forward to that if it's in the cards.
I just got mine (literally) 1st elektro piece of gear. So I have absolutely no idea what you're doing. But I can see you're pushing this thing to it's very limits. Incredible...
Dude your samples are sounding crystal clear. I feel like I can pick good drum sounds that I like from splice but when it comes to texture or something other than drums I don't think I make as good of picks. Any tips, sounds you stay away from etc..? I know it's sort of a dumb question and the best way to find out is to try more lol. Thx 🤙
not dumb at all my dude. most of the sounds I'm using are stock, the one's that i actually record i go direct from my synths to my focusrite interface and record them into logic x. from there it's a lot about how you export, like quality etc. i'm not a recording guru by any means, but i'd suggest just recording and exporting on high quality settings etc. i'm sure there's a ton of info about it. the other thing to keep in mind is what you're doing with the sounds once they are loaded onto the unit. if you're wanting to use sample packs from other ppl it's kind of out of your hands about quality etc. obviously taking a sample and pitching it down will also effect the quality of the sound, or adding effects like saturation will also degrade the fidelity. hopefully that helps haha
ooooooooooh.... I get it today. I just created a simple blast beat at 300bpm and then after the hypnotic effect kicked in I started playing with the retrig on with a snare. I first noticed that when playing with just the pads, you get a sort of timestretched feel that you can control with your fingers with kicks snare and cymbals. Then I snagged a track with the snare and got the idea to create a lead with it. It's not a-musical but it's not exactly musical either, its like holding onto an electric dragon that's threatening to throw you off. Playing with the retrig rate and the pitch lets you create some sweet spots which you can then futz around with freq/res/volume. Sweet spots change per sample and start point. I think with a couple of outboard fx this is an instrument all its own, like a theremin. (It's hard to wrangle but this is day 1 really.) The slide trig I still can't get on demand, but I get why you need it: frees up a hand to tweak knobs. You've also inspired me to try some longer samples and use start point to get a real-time time stretch effect. I'll be honest, lack of certain synth features was starting to make me regret this beast, but as I am walking in literally from the past (16yrs since the last time I wrangled synths) I'm being faced with realtime control on features that used to be fully buried in menus. It'll take me a bit to get a feel for this new liquid land.
This is some crazy fun stuff... I'd been told in the past that people turn elektron products into synths even when they weren't, and this demonstrates why. I have no idea how I'll make music with some of these (especially the last few minutes) but this is next level!
@@mr.apartment well, the one inspired from this tweaking sounds a bit more like ministry meets ATR, but if you're down with that sort of noise I'll definitely post it when I finish it.
Can you please tell me how hard the pads are on your instrument? on the video it seems easy enough, but on my m:s I have to make an effort or hit the pad hard to make it sound
well the bigger pads definitely take more effort, but the small pads aren’t too bad. you can try loosening the screws on the back, that may help some. i took my m:s completely apart to paint it and when i put it back together i noticed that i tightened the screws on the back tight enough to make the pads harder to trigger. let me know if you try it
Hot fire! What is this sorcery? O.0 ..No, really; I specialize in fully unintended "discoveries" with hardware gear, and I've been waiting for a Model:Samples video like this for some time. Subbed and thank you.
Super interesting, thank you for sharing! One thing you are missing out on by not updating firmware is the ability to use velocity as a modulation source, but I can see the appeal of your slide toggle technique.
haha i ended up updating for the ability to put multiple samples on the same track and thought that was worth taking the risk. and the slide toggle still works :) tell me more about the velocity modulation tho, i didn’t know about it
@@mr.apartment Yeah, sample locking is the bees knees! OK, velocity modulation: FUNC + Back button opens the Pad/Vel Menu (Pad Config). Dst is Destination, set to whatever parameter you want to modulate, such as Filter Cutoff for example. DDep is Destination Depth, that's how strong you want the effect to be, can be negative or positive. When playing with this, I recommend treating the T1-T6 pads as pressure pads, as opposed to drum pads. Simply put, the harder you press, the more of the modulation effect you get. To further fine tune it, you can set the VDep (Velocity Depth) parameter to make the pads a bit less sensitive, which is often better. I generally set them to between 30 and 70, but it is always to taste. One of my absolute favorite things to do with this - load up any sample (especially a single cycle oscillator or wavetable), set sample length to 1, and turn on Loop. Now you have a 'synth'. Set Retrig to Always On. Set Velocity Mod destination to pitch, start point, or sample length, and set whatever DDep you want (generally 10 - 20 is good). Now you have a 'synth' that achieves threat-level bananas. Great for achieving those dirty, distorted synth type sounds that I'm sure you love as much as I do. Happy experimenting!
Best retrig video I've found so far. Exactly what I was looking for great job. Now I just need to record some samples and connect it to my microfreak and I'm off to the races.
happy to hear that :) all sounds are stock on the model:samples, it’s been so long i couldn’t tell you which one it was but i’m pretty sure i just loaded a full kit on there. sorry i could be more help haha
the tempo stuff is where my mind usually goes first when messing around with stuff, i have a hard time enjoying playing sequencers because it can be difficult to make them sound humanistic, so that is usually my go-to
@@mr.apartment Indeed !...I had a Model:samples not too long ago and this machine begs for experimentation. It may appear too basic as a groovebox but offers a lot more if you like weird things. So... Thanks for these tricks....they will be used !
@@LaSpatuleduFutur happy to share :) i really like the M:S because i'm a knob per function type person. for me, thinking about every submenu just takes me out of the moment and out of the groove. i'm planning a "generative ambient" vid and a "glitch percussion" vid in the next few weeks, but there's a lot of programming involved. definitely some good ideas, but the live improv is what i love most about the unit
@@mr.apartment Great, Can't wait to see the vids ! I feel the same about the "one knob" strategy, that's why i didn't jump into the Digitakt for my first Elektron, and getting to know the M:S jam after jam comfort me in my choice....but the next step might be the Octatrack.Time stretching, the fader....it's calling !
@@LaSpatuleduFutur i agree, the digitakt is so deep with so many possibilities, but looks like a nightmare to learn or play live. though i like what other creators do with it, i don't think i'll end up going any further with samplers myself. i've been digging pretty deep into the modular world lately and really liking what i see.
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This thing is a true masterpiece. It's like a sampler, but it's not. Elektron is on another level.
it def checks a lot of boxes that other desktops don’t :) good fun
Amazing! Best (ab)use of any sampler/groovebox I’ve ever watched! Congrats 👊🏼
t(ha)nk you my friend 😌
This was awesome and eye-opening for someone coming fresh to model:samples. Couldn't find anyone else messing with the machine like this. Are you still planning a video on generative playing with it? Looking forward to that if it's in the cards.
yep, i definitely am. i moved recently and i’m trying to figure out how to fill in the new place
@@mr.apartment I'll second that. Hope a video on your generative ideas is still on the table.
I just got mine (literally) 1st elektro piece of gear. So I have absolutely no idea what you're doing.
But I can see you're pushing this thing to it's very limits.
Incredible...
thanks :) sometimes i just feel like i’m trolling my gear more than making music
How do you get the slide toggle to reliably trigger? I can make it happen at best once every couple of tries.
i feel like it’s about doing it fast and about using 1/3 of the keyboard. that’s about the best advice i could give :) cheers
Excellent video ! I also like to turn knobs and I'm fond of happy accidents. This might be the best device to do so, thanks !
Mr Thingamabob happy to share with likeminded individuals as yourself :)
…using the whole arm to turn a dial
leverage built the pyramids
Dude your samples are sounding crystal clear. I feel like I can pick good drum sounds that I like from splice but when it comes to texture or something other than drums I don't think I make as good of picks. Any tips, sounds you stay away from etc..? I know it's sort of a dumb question and the best way to find out is to try more lol. Thx 🤙
not dumb at all my dude. most of the sounds I'm using are stock, the one's that i actually record i go direct from my synths to my focusrite interface and record them into logic x. from there it's a lot about how you export, like quality etc. i'm not a recording guru by any means, but i'd suggest just recording and exporting on high quality settings etc. i'm sure there's a ton of info about it. the other thing to keep in mind is what you're doing with the sounds once they are loaded onto the unit. if you're wanting to use sample packs from other ppl it's kind of out of your hands about quality etc. obviously taking a sample and pitching it down will also effect the quality of the sound, or adding effects like saturation will also degrade the fidelity. hopefully that helps haha
ooooooooooh.... I get it today. I just created a simple blast beat at 300bpm and then after the hypnotic effect kicked in I started playing with the retrig on with a snare. I first noticed that when playing with just the pads, you get a sort of timestretched feel that you can control with your fingers with kicks snare and cymbals.
Then I snagged a track with the snare and got the idea to create a lead with it. It's not a-musical but it's not exactly musical either, its like holding onto an electric dragon that's threatening to throw you off. Playing with the retrig rate and the pitch lets you create some sweet spots which you can then futz around with freq/res/volume. Sweet spots change per sample and start point.
I think with a couple of outboard fx this is an instrument all its own, like a theremin. (It's hard to wrangle but this is day 1 really.) The slide trig I still can't get on demand, but I get why you need it: frees up a hand to tweak knobs.
You've also inspired me to try some longer samples and use start point to get a real-time time stretch effect. I'll be honest, lack of certain synth features was starting to make me regret this beast, but as I am walking in literally from the past (16yrs since the last time I wrangled synths) I'm being faced with realtime control on features that used to be fully buried in menus. It'll take me a bit to get a feel for this new liquid land.
really happy you’re enjoying the new territory :)
Excellent tips! This is sure to provide unique results, I'm all for happy accidents! Thank you.
happy to help:)
Amazing, opened up so many ideas for me. Thank you !
glad to help :)
These are all incredible ideas! Just got one of these to try it out. Thanks for the knowledge!
happy to help :)
This is some crazy fun stuff... I'd been told in the past that people turn elektron products into synths even when they weren't, and this demonstrates why. I have no idea how I'll make music with some of these (especially the last few minutes) but this is next level!
thanks so much :) if you decide to make some music definitely post and let me know, i’d like to hear it
@@mr.apartment well, the one inspired from this tweaking sounds a bit more like ministry meets ATR, but if you're down with that sort of noise I'll definitely post it when I finish it.
Absolutely: WOOOOOOW. So creative. Couldn‘t stop listening. Can’t wait to try it myself 🚀
i'm really glad to hear that :) always happy to inspire
Can you please tell me how hard the pads are on your instrument? on the video it seems easy enough, but on my m:s I have to make an effort or hit the pad hard to make it sound
well the bigger pads definitely take more effort, but the small pads aren’t too bad. you can try loosening the screws on the back, that may help some. i took my m:s completely apart to paint it and when i put it back together i noticed that i tightened the screws on the back tight enough to make the pads harder to trigger. let me know if you try it
Hot fire! What is this sorcery? O.0 ..No, really; I specialize in fully unintended "discoveries" with hardware gear, and I've been waiting for a Model:Samples video like this for some time. Subbed and thank you.
thank you :) glad to meet a fellow explorer
"happy misakes" :) that was a totally unique model:samples vid. many thanks!
i was wondering if anyone was ever gonna pick up on that :) congrats
Agreed. Really awesome creative ideas. Thanks so much!
Although I freely admit that some of this hurt my delicate, over-50 sensibilities….. 😉
life is frequently unpleasant and also my biggest muse :) thanks for watching
@@mr.apartment SameSame. I probably just had my headphones up too loud....
good one
thank you :)
I wish you made more videos!
definitely slacking. trying to get things out away in the new apartment and going to start again.
Now that’s how to glitch the fock out of a model samples. Love it!!
Leo Glen thanks mate!
There was a misake :P
@@Jux925 wel done :)
Brrrrrrrilllliannnttt!!!!! xxxxxx
thanks friend :)
Super interesting, thank you for sharing! One thing you are missing out on by not updating firmware is the ability to use velocity as a modulation source, but I can see the appeal of your slide toggle technique.
haha i ended up updating for the ability to put multiple samples on the same track and thought that was worth taking the risk. and the slide toggle still works :) tell me more about the velocity modulation tho, i didn’t know about it
@@mr.apartment Yeah, sample locking is the bees knees! OK, velocity modulation: FUNC + Back button opens the Pad/Vel Menu (Pad Config). Dst is Destination, set to whatever parameter you want to modulate, such as Filter Cutoff for example. DDep is Destination Depth, that's how strong you want the effect to be, can be negative or positive. When playing with this, I recommend treating the T1-T6 pads as pressure pads, as opposed to drum pads. Simply put, the harder you press, the more of the modulation effect you get. To further fine tune it, you can set the VDep (Velocity Depth) parameter to make the pads a bit less sensitive, which is often better. I generally set them to between 30 and 70, but it is always to taste.
One of my absolute favorite things to do with this - load up any sample (especially a single cycle oscillator or wavetable), set sample length to 1, and turn on Loop. Now you have a 'synth'. Set Retrig to Always On. Set Velocity Mod destination to pitch, start point, or sample length, and set whatever DDep you want (generally 10 - 20 is good). Now you have a 'synth' that achieves threat-level bananas. Great for achieving those dirty, distorted synth type sounds that I'm sure you love as much as I do.
Happy experimenting!
@@minimal.camera wow! you blew my mind. i'm goin to have to try that for sure! thanks :)
@@minimal.camera thank you for sharing ! big insights.
so sickk , thanks for showing how
of course :)
badass
you are ;)
Nice❤
you are nice :)
Today I learned…
and tomorrow you conquer...
Awesome stuff, thanks for sharing
anytime :) more to come
Got Rez from Underworld vibes @ 7:40
Best retrig video I've found so far. Exactly what I was looking for great job. Now I just need to record some samples and connect it to my microfreak and I'm off to the races.
let me know if you post anything :)
Cool tip for the Model:Samples - you can download and subsequently upload the Bruh sound effect onto it, thus making the perfect snare drum.
the more you know :)
This is some crazy shit. I love it
aww thanks :) glad you enjoyed it
inspiring
as are you :)
King of model samples!! 😱😱Can we please jam together?? 👏👏✌️
absolutely, show me what you got :)
THANK YOU !!!! Is massive technique ! BIG UP :)
thanks for the kind words :)
i want one so bad
sell some plasma :P
update: got one!
Good trick!
:) i’m working on something a little different with it, coming in a week or so. stay tuned :)
Damn! You Are the Model Sample Wizard! Thank you!
snakes and snails and puppy dog tails
This is my typa hype. Dont tell my side glitches that I be togglin between them and some model samples
secret safe with me J, tru
what a great approach, love it!
Holy crap! You just released the monsters inside the M:S!
could be more lurking 👀 who knows :)
Amazing work! Congrats! I learned a lot today. Where can I get the bank you use in first minute? Thanks for all!
happy to hear that :) all sounds are stock on the model:samples, it’s been so long i couldn’t tell you which one it was but i’m pretty sure i just loaded a full kit on there. sorry i could be more help haha
Happy to read that! I’ll buy mine ! ❤️ Thanks for teaching so well
This is doodoo dope. Thanks for all the great ideas
:D anytime friend
You are the hacker of this sampler!
grazie :)
You're a genius man. Love the use of the tempo to change the speed of the retrig. Never thought of it like that
the tempo stuff is where my mind usually goes first when messing around with stuff, i have a hard time enjoying playing sequencers because it can be difficult to make them sound humanistic, so that is usually my go-to
glad you enjoyed it ;)
damn! these are really good techniques! much appreciated :)
happy to help :) planning a "generative" and "glitch" based techniques videos soon.
@@mr.apartment Awesome! I've been trying to dive more into making IDM so this is perfect, cheers!
@@TomuG3 sweet, hopefully i’ll have something of substance to share :)
Good stuff man !!
thanks so much :)
Amazing
glad you’re enjoying the video :)
Good Job
thanks so much :)
Coooolest live performance!
thanks :) happy you enjoyed it
Damn, that was crazy. Incredibly creative way of using the Elektron!
thanks :) i'll have another video with it soon on glitch and generative stylings, stay tuned
Thanks man
thank you!
Now THAT was fun...
glad you thought so :)
Wicked
Mike Waldeck Jr. thanks :)
this will not make my neighbours happy....
as long as it makes you happy...that's what counts XD
@@mr.apartment Indeed !...I had a Model:samples not too long ago and this machine begs for experimentation.
It may appear too basic as a groovebox but offers a lot more if you like weird things.
So... Thanks for these tricks....they will be used !
@@LaSpatuleduFutur happy to share :) i really like the M:S because i'm a knob per function type person. for me, thinking about every submenu just takes me out of the moment and out of the groove. i'm planning a "generative ambient" vid and a "glitch percussion" vid in the next few weeks, but there's a lot of programming involved. definitely some good ideas, but the live improv is what i love most about the unit
@@mr.apartment Great, Can't wait to see the vids ! I feel the same about the "one knob" strategy, that's why i didn't jump into the Digitakt for my first Elektron, and getting to know the M:S jam after jam comfort me in my choice....but the next step might be the Octatrack.Time stretching, the fader....it's calling !
@@LaSpatuleduFutur i agree, the digitakt is so deep with so many possibilities, but looks like a nightmare to learn or play live. though i like what other creators do with it, i don't think i'll end up going any further with samplers myself. i've been digging pretty deep into the modular world lately and really liking what i see.
Love owt like this! :-)
haha come again?
@@mr.apartment basically just saying love creative use or misuse of gear like this. Owt is slang for anything. Really enjoying your videos.
@@Leaveblank8 gotcha! you teachin me stuff too :) i'm glad you enjoyed it
Thanks Mr. Now I can schizz out some of factory patterens.
planning another one in the future on generative and glitch techniques. could be a while. glad you enjoyed :)