How to frame an irregular “bastard” hip roof - Step-by step instructions.

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  • Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
  • How to use Roof Framer’s Bible to get every rafter length, angle, cut, and more.
    Buy Roof Framer’s Bible: www.roofbible.com/
    0:00 Intro
    1:43 Consequences of mixing pitches on a hip roof
    4:16 Longer ridge - first consequence of mixing pitches
    5:37 Angle of hip and valley rafters
    7:55 Always figure from the end of the overhang
    9:15 Finding the ends of the ridge
    11:07 Factor chart - finding the framing points
    17:37 Second consequence - fascias don’t align
    19:20 Aligning fascia heights - two options
    22:24 Option 1 - unequal overhangs
    23:19 Option 2 - raising the plate line
    25:02 Figuring from the fascia line
    26:42 Hip offset
    Author’s Bio:
    Barry Mussell started framing houses over forty years ago. He built over 300 homes and commercial buildings with his own hands, before taking on the role of Framing Manager for a large home builder. He trained and supervised hundreds of framing crews who built more than 18,000 homes across the southeastern United States. Thirty years ago he wrote Roof Framer’s Bible - The Complete Pocket Reference to Roof Framing. It has been sold all over the world. He is now focused on training the next generation of carpenters and tradesmen.

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  • @RoofFramersBible
    @RoofFramersBible  5 місяців тому

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  • @kyleunhassobiscay
    @kyleunhassobiscay 5 місяців тому +7

    Finally a face to the name! I’m a 35 year old framing contractor out of California. I’ve been framing since I was 18 and been in business on my own for 8 years as of October 2023. Your book has been in my toolbox from day 1! Cheers 🍻

  • @bradypayne7623
    @bradypayne7623 4 місяці тому +1

    sir you are the master of roof framing

    • @RoofFramersBible
      @RoofFramersBible  4 місяці тому

      I'm just an old carpenter. Thanks for watching!

  • @justindc3124
    @justindc3124 5 місяців тому

    So glad to have subscribed!
    Thanks!

  • @toniochoa6445
    @toniochoa6445 3 місяці тому

    this is good video sir thanks for sharing this good stuff

  • @jbreefer148
    @jbreefer148 5 місяців тому

    I'm building a 12x16' storage shed and I want to put a hip roof on top. I found your channel and also ordered the roofers bible. Thank for your help.

  • @Dan-nh8nu
    @Dan-nh8nu Місяць тому

    I use the roofing ready reckoner in the U.K because I use metric mostly. I do own this book though.

  • @williamhospodor5246
    @williamhospodor5246 5 місяців тому +1

    I am so happy this came out! I would like to better understand the math though such as how you came up with that 6in offset. Does the book give more detail?

    • @RoofFramersBible
      @RoofFramersBible  5 місяців тому +2

      The amount of the hip offset depends on the pitch combination and the width of the overhang. The formula is: (high pitch - low pitch) x overhang width ÷ Low pitch = the hip offset. This is given in the book. The book also gives the hip and valley offsets for several standard overhangs already pre-calculated on each of the 68 different pitch combinations in the book. Thanks for watching!

  • @davidpatrick3533
    @davidpatrick3533 3 місяці тому

    Great video! the example at the 22:10 mark... wouldn't that drop the entire rafter by 1"... even at the ridge? Do you have to adjust the angle of the seat cut and plumb cut at the ridge? Or is that change in angle trivial?

    • @RoofFramersBible
      @RoofFramersBible  3 місяці тому

      No, I guess I didn't communicate that well. The rafter isn't moving at all. It stays in exactly the same place. In the example we needed a 4" plate build up due to the pitch difference. Because plates are 1 1/2" thick, it is cumbersome to get that 4", so instead we built up the plate 3" (two 2x4's) and moved the birdsmouth seat cut the last 1". The rafter didn't move. The seat cut line moved down 1" which allows the rafter to bear on the lower plate at 3". I hope that explains it better. Thanks for watching!

  • @chuckstires2038
    @chuckstires2038 5 місяців тому

    Looking at your website, you definitely build impressive structures. For that reason, I was thinking you might direct me to a solution for my sunroom project.
    I am adding a cathedral ceiling sunroom by extending the first floor on the back of my home which has a second floor 12" cantilevered extension. The challenge is supporting the ridge beam on the rim of the cantilever. What methods should I consider?
    I would appreciate any guidance you can provide.
    Thank you,
    Chuck
    Raleigh, NC

    • @RoofFramersBible
      @RoofFramersBible  5 місяців тому

      Supporting any significant load on an existing cantilever is a problem. There are too many variables to give you an answer. You need a competent professional to check it out. I suggest you call Kevin Munson, PE of Residential Structures, Inc. They are very good structural engineers that I have known for 20 years. Good luck!

    • @chuckstires2038
      @chuckstires2038 5 місяців тому

      Thank you for the lead.

  • @jm3287
    @jm3287 5 місяців тому

    I do have a 8/12 and a 15/12 coming up. My question is how did you get the .533 and .854 to get the 15/12 run, rafter length and 1.315 for the hip???

    • @RoofFramersBible
      @RoofFramersBible  5 місяців тому

      Well, that is just the math. It takes several steps to get those lengths, but once you have them you can use a "factor" to get other lengths of the same pitch combination. Since the relationship of one value to the other is proportional, you can use those factors to get the lengths in one calculation instead of several. The factor chart is just a shortcut way to get the answer. Thanks for watching!

  • @emilechap8573
    @emilechap8573 5 місяців тому +2

    Does the top of irregular hip have to be beveled or can you drop it like regular hip ? Thx for the good teaching.

    • @RoofFramersBible
      @RoofFramersBible  5 місяців тому +1

      If it is to be accurate you would have to back the hip since the hip drop would be different for each side. But, if the pitch spread isn't too wide you could cheat a little and drop the hip the average of the two sides hip drop. It wouldn't be perfect, but good enough for it to work. Thanks for watching!

    • @emilechap8573
      @emilechap8573 5 місяців тому

      @@RoofFramersBible thankyou

    • @RoofFramersBible
      @RoofFramersBible  5 місяців тому +1

      I just posted the bastard hip part 2 video. It specifically answers your earlier question. Check it out.

    • @emilechap8573
      @emilechap8573 5 місяців тому

      Ok thx

    • @johnlasseigne7676
      @johnlasseigne7676 5 місяців тому

      I believe it is shifted if you don't bevel. They use this technique called french scribe I believe. It's complex to achieve

  • @aaronj9208
    @aaronj9208 3 місяці тому

    Dumb question but what would be an example or senerio someone would build a roof like this?

    • @RoofFramersBible
      @RoofFramersBible  3 місяці тому +2

      That isn't a dumb question at all. There are a lot of situations that will force the use of two different pitches on a hip roof, but the most common one is narrow building lots. This often causes the homes to be deeper than they are wide. If you use the same pitch all the way around then the ridge will run front to back instead of side to side. This doesn't make the front elevation very attractive. By using steeper pitches on the ends, the designer can massage the ridge direction and /or lengths to make the elevations better looking. Thanks for watching!

  • @scrivenerscarpentry
    @scrivenerscarpentry 5 місяців тому

    Anything in metric?

    • @MA-sp9dl
      @MA-sp9dl 5 місяців тому

      Same

    • @RoofFramersBible
      @RoofFramersBible  5 місяців тому

      We don't have a metric edition. I have sold these in metric countries for years. I presume where the pitch ratio is the same, say a 12/12 pitch, or 45 degrees, then they could still use the factor chart. The factor chart doesn't care what the unit of measure is. It would still be valid. I'm not sure exactly what they are doing, but many have used it. Thanks for watching!

  • @beelinebeeline1228
    @beelinebeeline1228 2 місяці тому

    Перевидите да на русский