Ridge will always be a little shorter than your level mark if you are leveling from top of truss. As the ridge must drop down so the top corners are flush with the pitch of the truss you are nailing it to.
Brings back memories of doing this myself in the 80s, minus nail guns and cordless saws.🤣 These were fun to build. Thanks for this video Matt. Yup old guy......
Thanks! Appreciate your content Matt. Been GCing for a few years and my framer was sucking so now I’m doing the framing myself and you’re really helpful in the transition. What’s your price per foot for framing labor? Does it vary on complexity of the build?
Man, you don’t have to do that. I’d answer anything in comments without.. Framing Labor varies from $12.50-15/ft on easier, cookie cutter homes. Higher end custom market touches $30/ft. Variables like wall heights, single or multi level, roof pitch, hand cut vs. trusses, access to property, etc.
@@MattBangsWood thanks man, just want to throw some $ your way cause I know it takes time to do these videos and want to show my appreciation. The least I could do for the help you’re giving me.
That's how we build them here in the southwest Dallas but I still haven't gotten used to the battery powered saws they always sound like they're binding I only used one the last three years before I retired thanks Matt and that is the easiest and best way to explain those cuts id be lying if I said I didn't cut them backwards in the beginning just had to except it still don't know how I could walk four feet to my material and now I'm upsidedown and backwards 😊
Great explanation, i always wondered how that's done. I can't even draw it on a paper haha. What purpose does that little roof serve other than design? It seems like it only complicates life and makes the roof more prone to leaking and possible mold damage later on.
With a roof like this, are there any structurual framing requirements below the sheathing? For example, does the ridge board need to be supported by a truss under the sheathing? Do the sleeper boards require any special support under sheathing?
Is the wood moldy or is it just the type of wood that looks that way after some time outside ? Remember the old Larry Haun videos had the same look on the wood.
I’m a framer with a custom set of badgers. They are probably the most comfortable set of bags I’ve ever had. If you’re going to get a badger make sure you go custom. They can make anything. I got a tail pouch and built in super fabric tool slots for sharp tools.
Take the roof pitch you’re landing on, put it into degrees and subtract it by 90. That’s the angle of your back cut, to get your ridge board to sit perfect.
@@MattBangsWood I have a 4:12 pitch roof. According to Google it’s 18.4 degrees when I convert it. So if I subtract 90 degrees from that it would be 71.6 degrees to get it to sit level? And this would be the same angle despite the length of the boards ? I appreciate the info!
I bought the Stabila Tape ? Thinking oh I will try it cause it’s about the same as a Fat Max ? I am a finish carpenter ( sub ) and it’s the 1st 24” I murder in 3 months ? If? Now 6-8 months later it’s great still? The case is trashed , rubber all frayed , changed the clip to a “ pro carpenter “ clip ? However; the tape itself is still new(ish) ? Just info ? Maybe I hv one in a million ?
Consider whether you’re over reliant on your tape measure. More things than not can be fitted w/o ever using a tape than you’d think and the fit is usually better once you’ve nailed down the methods. Also consider whether you might be using the first 24” of the tape too frequently bc you’re not using a combination square for small measurements. It’s easy to get comfortable using a particular tool and never stop to consider whether it’s the right or best tool for the job. Just somethings to think about.
@@arsenicjones9125 ok thanks for the info? Just saying from a 14 yr finish carpenter who builds cabinets (custom) and I will tell you I carry the 4” Martinez, 7 1/4” Martinez , multi mark, 6” Starrett , folding Lufkin, Starrett spring punch, and a Leica laser tape. In a set of AKRIBIS custom trim bags. I know what I am doing and I am a contractor that subs to GC for finish. Thanks for trying to make me feel like maybe I am a notch down from you ! But you might need to take that somewhere else! I was commenting on what a good tape they make that’s all !!! Move along please!
@@zephyr1408 oh wow! 🤣 you just picked that up took it the wrong way and sat right down on it to complain about how butthurt it made you feel. Good job it’s quite a feat. 🤯 If they add it to the Olympics you could take home gold. You described a problem and I asked you to consider something. If that’s talking down to you that’s because you’ve decided to take it that way. You chose to be upset. I didn’t say anything upsetting to you but you decided that’s how you needed to take it. Idk if you’re having a bad day or what but maybe consider whether being asked to think about an issue is inherently demeaning or whether it’s just when you’re asked to think about it that it becomes demeaning.
I usually cut all my California cuts on the ground before taking them to the roof, saves you a lot of time. Cut your 2x jacks in the middle of a 14' or so the cut will work for both sides. Please stop using OSB! Dont forget your LS50s. Engineers hates when you forget your hardware!
Why stop using OSB? We do reroofing, 10 times the amount repairs on plywood decks vs OSB decks. On 5/8” plywood that is. 1/2” is worse. I have seen 5/8” plywood push H clips so far that there was over 1/2” offset between sheets. It is such a pleasure doing roofs that are sheathed with OSB because it does not move as much, work the deck nails loose, warp, or delaminate. We have replaced entire roof decks because of plywood, not cheap to say the least. I started making my own H-clip repair to keep decks smoother because it is such a problem. If it is warped over 1/8” we use a Hillman heavy duty drywall anchor, and fender washer to stabilizer the sheets. Sometimes there are 50-75 on one roof.
I just lost a framing contract for noncompliant with harness and rope fall protection which is absolutely a BS process. Ive framed 40 years without falling off a roof . The you guys work used to be my normal Having said that I use a fair but of kickers on the first row which gives me a second chance if I slip and helps keep tools fasteners and spare parts from slipping off
@@MattBangsWood I was always trying to integrate them in 3D into the inside of the house in my mind, but I never could. Wow, builders go out of their way with cheap tricks to make a 2D blah home into something that looks multi-dimensional but really isnt. Instead they could have spent the money and effort on better insulation, fixtures, more space, or even higher ceilings.
Thanks for sharing! This is a tricky one to understand, so it's a super helpful watch. Love seeing the behind the scenes magic!
You explained that perfectly. You seriously have one of the best channels on UA-cam. I give you tons of credit for everything you do.
Thanks Matt, this is the first time someone explained how to cut these and I now get it. You the man, cheers 😉
This is by far the best video showing this. Thanks so much for sharing
Thanks Dude. Those were a couple nice tricks. Thank you 👍
You are the ultimate teacher explanations were spot on we had to cut each cut each time love it thank you so much for creating this channel
Ridge will always be a little shorter than your level mark if you are leveling from top of truss. As the ridge must drop down so the top corners are flush with the pitch of the truss you are nailing it to.
It's surprising how few people understand this. . try that on a 14 or 16 pitch you'll get it right away
Love your videos Matt, doesn’t look so hard when you explain it
Thank you for the video Matt you do a good job explaining everything
Good video you are representing the trade very well
Awesome work and education Matt 🔨
Thanks Matt . Great teaching .💪👍👍
Brings back memories of doing this myself in the 80s, minus nail guns and cordless saws.🤣 These were fun to build. Thanks for this video Matt. Yup old guy......
When did you see nail guns getting introduced more and more?
@@MattBangsWoodI got my first hitatchi in 1990
@@MattBangsWood 1987
Thanks Matt!
Great video! Thanks for sharing mate
Thanks! Appreciate your content Matt. Been GCing for a few years and my framer was sucking so now I’m doing the framing myself and you’re really helpful in the transition. What’s your price per foot for framing labor? Does it vary on complexity of the build?
Man, you don’t have to do that. I’d answer anything in comments without..
Framing Labor varies from $12.50-15/ft on easier, cookie cutter homes. Higher end custom market touches $30/ft.
Variables like wall heights, single or multi level, roof pitch, hand cut vs. trusses, access to property, etc.
@@MattBangsWood thanks man, just want to throw some $ your way cause I know it takes time to do these videos and want to show my appreciation. The least I could do for the help you’re giving me.
Nicely done! 👏
for the sleepers I just set my square on the chalk line and it gives me the degree, so you don't have to move the board a couple times and scribe
New whip who dis 💁♂️💁♂️💁♂️
❤️
Great Video.
Awesome video. Would have loved to see a video of the main trusses being set, framed in and sheathed. But I understand you need to work! Great work
It’s coming, i just wanted to put out a little tutorial / educational piece.
@@MattBangsWood much love brother! Looking forward to it
On a 6 to 6 I always go 40-50. But the difference is we use two 2x4 material spread out to catch short of bevel . Florida
When framing a valley
Dewalt daddy!
What is that feature called? At the end I think you said cowley? Thanks.
That's how we build them here in the southwest Dallas but I still haven't gotten used to the battery powered saws they always sound like they're binding I only used one the last three years before I retired thanks Matt and that is the easiest and best way to explain those cuts id be lying if I said I didn't cut them backwards in the beginning just had to except it still don't know how I could walk four feet to my material and now I'm upsidedown and backwards 😊
I still cut them backwards from time to time, happens to the best of us! I agree that the battery powered tools always feel like they’re in a pinch.
@MattBangsWood how would one go about getting into carpentry? Having zero experience?
Call a company and say you want to get a job with them.. Everyone is hiring.
Great explanation, i always wondered how that's done. I can't even draw it on a paper haha.
What purpose does that little roof serve other than design? It seems like it only complicates life and makes the roof more prone to leaking and possible mold damage later on.
With a roof like this, are there any structurual framing requirements below the sheathing? For example, does the ridge board need to be supported by a truss under the sheathing? Do the sleeper boards require any special support under sheathing?
Is the wood moldy or is it just the type of wood that looks that way after some time outside ? Remember the old Larry Haun videos had the same look on the wood.
It’s a bit moist.. won’t hurt anything though, dried out.
any formula we can use to figure out valley sleepers angle??
Matt how do you like the badger belt
I’m a framer with a custom set of badgers. They are probably the most comfortable set of bags I’ve ever had. If you’re going to get a badger make sure you go custom. They can make anything. I got a tail pouch and built in super fabric tool slots for sharp tools.
How to do you find the angle to have the board sit flush “on top” of the roof ?
Take the roof pitch you’re landing on, put it into degrees and subtract it by 90.
That’s the angle of your back cut, to get your ridge board to sit perfect.
@ t would that also make it level?
@@MattBangsWood I have a 4:12 pitch roof. According to Google it’s 18.4 degrees when I convert it. So if I subtract 90 degrees from that it would be 71.6 degrees to get it to sit level? And this would be the same angle despite the length of the boards ? I appreciate the info!
I bought the Stabila Tape ? Thinking oh I will try it cause it’s about the same as a Fat Max ? I am a finish carpenter ( sub ) and it’s the 1st 24” I murder in 3 months ? If? Now 6-8 months later it’s great still? The case is trashed , rubber all frayed , changed the clip to a “ pro carpenter “ clip ? However; the tape itself is still new(ish) ? Just info ? Maybe I hv one in a million ?
I’ve never used that before!
I’ll check it out.
Consider whether you’re over reliant on your tape measure. More things than not can be fitted w/o ever using a tape than you’d think and the fit is usually better once you’ve nailed down the methods. Also consider whether you might be using the first 24” of the tape too frequently bc you’re not using a combination square for small measurements.
It’s easy to get comfortable using a particular tool and never stop to consider whether it’s the right or best tool for the job. Just somethings to think about.
@@arsenicjones9125 ok thanks for the info? Just saying from a 14 yr finish carpenter who builds cabinets (custom) and I will tell you I carry the 4” Martinez, 7 1/4” Martinez , multi mark, 6” Starrett , folding Lufkin, Starrett spring punch, and a Leica laser tape. In a set of AKRIBIS custom trim bags.
I know what I am doing and I am a contractor that subs to GC for finish.
Thanks for trying to make me feel like maybe I am a notch down from you !
But you might need to take that somewhere else!
I was commenting on what a good tape they make that’s all !!! Move along please!
@@zephyr1408 oh wow! 🤣 you just picked that up took it the wrong way and sat right down on it to complain about how butthurt it made you feel. Good job it’s quite a feat. 🤯 If they add it to the Olympics you could take home gold.
You described a problem and I asked you to consider something. If that’s talking down to you that’s because you’ve decided to take it that way. You chose to be upset. I didn’t say anything upsetting to you but you decided that’s how you needed to take it. Idk if you’re having a bad day or what but maybe consider whether being asked to think about an issue is inherently demeaning or whether it’s just when you’re asked to think about it that it becomes demeaning.
Yo bro weres fox at does he still got his youtube channel
I usually cut all my California cuts on the ground before taking them to the roof, saves you a lot of time. Cut your 2x jacks in the middle of a 14' or so the cut will work for both sides. Please stop using OSB! Dont forget your LS50s. Engineers hates when you forget your hardware!
Why stop using OSB? We do reroofing, 10 times the amount repairs on plywood decks vs OSB decks. On 5/8” plywood that is. 1/2” is worse. I have seen 5/8” plywood push H clips so far that there was over 1/2” offset between sheets. It is such a pleasure doing roofs that are sheathed with OSB because it does not move as much, work the deck nails loose, warp, or delaminate. We have replaced entire roof decks because of plywood, not cheap to say the least. I started making my own H-clip repair to keep decks smoother because it is such a problem. If it is warped over 1/8” we use a Hillman heavy duty drywall anchor, and fender washer to stabilizer the sheets. Sometimes there are 50-75 on one roof.
great!!
how many trucks do you have? Seems like every build series you roll up to the jobsite in a different one lol
A few, been trying to sell off the ones I’m not using.. I have a problem.
26 degrees..... 27 degrees..... What ever it takes. 😄
It’s all relative, 26.57° if we’re overly concerned! 🤣👊
What Milwaukee pack out was that at the beginning
It's sick you probably forgot more than I know about framing
I guarantee that’s not true. 🤣
I just lost a framing contract for noncompliant with harness and rope fall protection which is absolutely a BS process.
Ive framed 40 years without falling off a roof . The you guys work used to be my normal Having said that I use a fair but of kickers on the first row which gives me a second chance if I slip and helps keep tools fasteners and spare parts from slipping off
The way you guys work
Please edit
No way? Big builder or what was the cause?
49°on top of sleeper? 41°on bottom. Added up makes 90
Wait, your gun shoots without depressing the tip? 😧
Two fingers, pointer finger on the nose pulling it back, middle finger on the trigger. It’s an acquired skill..
YOU NEED A TRAILER...had ours now for 30 years. Would never go back to hauling tools in our trucks.
Have you ever slipped on sawdust Matt?
Absolutely, air hoses too. If we got multiple people up there, I tend to clean it off, but just myself I’m not too concerned.
Think these are more intimidating than tricky. “If” yah don’t complicate it.
There’s just a handful of things you need to get right or else it doesn’t work. Definitely intimidating.
👍✌
Still confused
Watch Larry Haun
now I get it. Those are not integrated into the rest of the house. Its just an attached shell. In other words USELESS! Fake dormers right?
Pretty close, but not entirely “useless”.. it’s an aesthetic thing for sure though!
@@MattBangsWood I was always trying to integrate them in 3D into the inside of the house in my mind, but I never could. Wow, builders go out of their way with cheap tricks to make a 2D blah home into something that looks multi-dimensional but really isnt. Instead they could have spent the money and effort on better insulation, fixtures, more space, or even higher ceilings.
What is this?
Cut in round valleys next