Would've been better if she died in that space debris crash in the intro to Lightfall. Now that I think about it, pretty sure that may have been the original plan back before Bungie realized they'd need to buy some time and push the ending to this Destiny saga to a later DLC, and instead stretched the introduction into a full DLC stuffed with filler content - AKA, the Lightfall we got.
Considering we haven't been involved with him in what like, 5 fucking years? Hearing his voice again was quaint, feels like he was never gone for some reason
Zavala *is* the character that should be affected by Amanda's death the most. She showed up at the Last City early on as a child, and Zavala essentially raised her. That's why she was the Vanguard Shipwright.
Well in this very specific instance. I will give them some leeway. Because it’s not really possible for them to give him in depth voice lines or be featured in well, anything involved anymore. But that excuse only works this one time. In the future they need to figure this out.
@@SH1NK1R01 "that excuse only works this one time" is an INSANE thing to say in this scenario. Implying the death of a VA and therefore that VA's character being less involved is an EXCUSE is out of touch and entitled. Really gotta reconsider your terminology here
@@alexmoberg8943 no I don’t. It’s just the reality that in the event of an untimely death they can’t possibly account for it and some parts of the production suffer. But it’s also the case that time marches on. His passing was sad but if you are going to say that the story should suffer for ever because he died. That’s truly insane. What’s out of touch and entitled is thinking that there is some special way to refer to a scenario like this or that people are obligated to speak on the matter in a way that is comfortable to you. I respectfully kept the specifics vague but since you didn’t understand I bluntly told you what had happened. You can’t just turn around and call foul when you didn’t even know what was going on.
I feel like they had the opportunity this season -- kind of like with Splicer -- to focus on the people of the Last City, who rarely get a spotlight, but it just kind of didn't happen. I think the death of Holliday might have been more impactful if there was a stronger emphasis on how civilians contribute to the fight against the Darkness, or how they feel about the Traveler leaving, etc. Maybe then Amanda's mission would have felt more like an embodiment of the will of the people (who *want* to help defend their home but lack the means) instead of a self-serving suicide run.
Imagine if the Shadow Legion tried to invade our home now that the Traveler was gone and the new missions were set in the city. It would help explain why non-lightbearers were with us since they don’t really have anywhere else to go.
I love how the season starts this cycle with loss. The final shape is approaching, people are going to get hurt or die. But it was just so darn sloppy, things go unexplained, an emotionally moving ending with Zavala was undercut by I weird revenge mission. Just messy.
One major point people are forgetting about Amanda being revived, we don’t know what happens to a Guardian who gets revived without the Traveler’s influence being there. The ghosts confirmed that while they can still use the light, they cannot feel the Traveler’s presence anymore.
@@Connor_M13 No but people suspect that she will be. I’m just giving a counter argument to Datto’s “We already got this with Uldren/Crow”. If Amanda gets revived, we are in a point in the story where we don’t have the Traveler’s influence on the light anymore, the ghosts confirmed that it’s just gone.
There's nothing to suggest that anything different would happen. There's a lot of weird and different ideals posited by many characters that really only serve to drive home the idea that there aren't necessarily any rules behind it, nor any direct control from the Traveler. They've been very hands off, and also already were absent/wounded up until the red war. The ghosts feel a difference in accessing the light without the Traveller around and any lightbearer or ghost might also feel similar differences, but the mechanics of resurrection and using the light etc. likely remain the same. The Traveler uses the light, probably the most powerful being that does, but doesn't control it all nor is the 'source'.
I feel the same about GG scoring; it sucks getting 100+ medals in a run only for the score to be lower than if I just emote-finished all the orange bars
No Amanda! Don’t start talking about your backstory ! “Why, am I gonna blow up ?” Worse! Everyone will sigh and make fun of you… and then you’ll blow up.
Amanda’s death I feel like would have been better saved as one of those who got (literally) pieced up by the witness in the campaign. I would have been mind blown if someone we actually cared for would have been split into slices by the witness immediately upon starting the campaign. It would have really made the fight of “save non guardians” this season feel more important. Just my opinion.
Gameplay-wise, the recent quality of life changes and the overall feel of the gunplay feels like the best version of Destiny we've ever gotten. Story and content, obviously not, but the gameplay itself is fun and buildcrafting is very satisfying. And the art team never misses.
The power delta changes basically forced us into SMGs or Quicksilver Storm, or just use a Machine Gun as a primary. Feels like the most restrictive season when it came to actual weapon relevance and diversity due to constantly being power capped and a lot of weapons suffering from that.
4:57 I think that if they brought her back (that’s a big IF), they would have to do something to make her evil or have a negative character arc, or else they risk all character deaths feeling like they will just end up being a road to becoming a guardian, making death have no consequences
Wild theory: Witness is inside the Traveler now. Traveler gets a ghost to Amanda. Witness corrupts the ghost and we get a dark guardian. Crow is highly susceptible to coercion from Dark Amanda. Leads to heavy Vanguard losses.
@chriseddis Well you can throw that theory out the window. At least in regards to Crow. How is "Crow is susceptible to Dark Amanda's corruption" any different to him being corrupted by Riven? Its all just re-treading the the same stuff we have had before
I literally skipped the cutscene for Amanda by accident and then it cut to crow and Mara Sov grieving over her body at the farm. My brain was so unbelievably lost.
I feel like maybe this was the point of the story of the season. Us/Zavala remembering that Bravery.. Devotion...sacrifice has one more line to it. Death. Not the bravery of ciatial, the devotion of misraaks, or the sacrifice of Rasputin. But just, death. Meaningless, non-glorified civilian death that didn't need to happen. Sometimes we act against our own self-preservation.
But that’s what war asks of the people who fight them. To go into harm’s way so that others don’t have…and some don’t make it back. …and it’s not always a glorious end. Sometimes it’s just a trap that someone walks into that ends them. It’s nasty business.
@@gudgurl but…..that is war. That is life. So many people, some that you care a lot about, meet their end in a very anti-climatic way. Not everyone goes out guns blazing
Bungie’s biggest mistake is thinking we cared enough about a vendor who has done nothing but sit in the Tower’s hangar for 5 years and sell blue and green ships and sparrows that I am pretty sure never even rotated.
The problem with Amanda's death is she's a character who sat in the Tower for years and years with virtually no character development, then they killed her off this season and it felt abrupt and unearned. It's hard to care about Amanda dying when we hardly know anything about her other than she's this incredible pilot. Bungie needs to make sure these characters have actual arcs that are longer than just one season if they want people to feel invested.
I can just picture Datto as a titan in the vanguard meeting saying, why are none guardians out in the field risking there lives?! And me as a Warlock saying: Datto you cannot decide the faith of every human, they want to help. Locking every none guardian in the Last City what does it make us? Just another Bad guy with prisoners. guardian or not, we all have known the risk of wandering these fields. Amanda knew the risks and I know, it saddens me to.
Her death should have been from her being a pilot not a soldier on the ground, as one of the few remaining pilots or something like that, when we take out the prison ship we fail From some fail safe the cabal had so Amanda does a suicide run to destroy the ship As an idea I spent 10 seconds thinking of
@@epicgamerzfail4575 Bungie's motto, "Don't put too much effort into a story or DLC, we can't elevate the players' expectations or they'll expect us to do more than just stay in our comfort zone of making barely passable 'content'" has been on display heavily as of late.
Honestly I feel like Datto is the only UA-camr that has completely given up hoping Bungie might exceed expectations. His generally positive outlook on the quality of the season seems more of a result of resignation than as a result of the season itself being good. More and more I think Datto’s outlook and opinions don’t reflect how most people feel. Feels like you’ve lost touch man. The season was pretty mediocre with some of the worst writing we’ve ever seen since the game launched, and the excuse is that it was only there to pad the launch of Lightfall, which was a short, poorly-written misstep from Bungie in itself. No more excuses.. Bungie’s employing a minimum effort strategy here and we all feel it.
I think part of why this season felt so rough was that it just came off of Season of the Seraph. Don’t get me wrong, that season is far from the best, but with the character writing and relationships within them being so much stronger (not to mention that absolutely phenomenal ending cutscene), this season just felt so lacking in comparison. My main reaction to Seraph’s ending was a deep sense of unease and sadness, all I felt from Defiance’s ending was indifference and disappointment.
Personally, I disagree, because I really wasn't a fan of Seraph. I didn't have high expectations going in, in fact they were VERY low after doing the Lightfall Campeign. I thought it was pretty good, even the Amanda Death, but then the last mission was an abrupt U Turn. And it got me thinking about what I had seen.
The ending of seraph just made me angry, I get storys need to have things happen, but all I did was sit there and "10 years of rasputin teases for that...." haha
The only reason I can see for non-guardian life being risked is the witness is a sorta, "all hands on deck" situation. If you're part of the vanguard, guardian or not, you need to fight for your life because without everyone's participation we cannot survive. Idk why other than that
7:50 I think it was Byf that gave an update on Asher Mir saying he was eventually overwritten in the Vex Network. For anyone unfamiliar, it basically means erased.
I love the removal of pinnacle leveling. Gives people who don't play Destiny as a job time to catch up on things. I may have time now to learn the other raids/dungeons I don't generally play, or to finish out my stasis aspects, or to finish some catalyst, grind weapon levels, go do exotic missions, etc.
I know what you mean, I think I spent 90% of this season just grinding for power and pinnacle gear. I’m really glad they aren’t raising it next season.
Thats insane to me, I get maybe an hour or 2 a night and don't think I've ever taken longer than like 4-5 resets for pinnacle. I'm actually sad about the removal just in the sense that I find less of a reason to boot the game. Each to their own I guess, change wouldn't be happening if I wasn't the minority I assume.
i have an idea, what if Amanda does get revived, but goes through really bad stuff right after that and eventually ends up being an antagonist leading a potentially enemy guardian race post the final shape saga. so she's basically the yin of Crow's yang. both got revived but one from bad to good and the other from good to bad.
As someone who couldn't enjoy this season at all I'm interested to hear Dattos opinion as this is the season that made me take a much deserved break from Destiny and really games as whole for a few months.
ha, I done exactly the same mate. Got bored of D2 super quick this season so took a well deserved break and feel better for it. Not hyped for the new season either tbh.
@@HyperionRexx same Destiny feels like it's lost some kick with lightfall which is a shame and I hope for a real kicker to drive me back in even if it's just to casual play, but for now I'm definitely just gonna watch from the sidelines.
Bro why do you say much deserved like anyone is keeping you playing. It so very normal to stop playing a game for a while. Let some content build up so you have stuff to come back to
I'm kind of just ready to see how this all wraps up in Final Shape at this point. 10 years is a long time and it's starting to wear on me, but I want to see how they wrap up this arc of Destiny and see what it's going to look like going into the future.
After all the "the Season that launches with an expansion is usually baller" talk, I can safely say this is yet again one of the most boring seasons we've had in recent times. Amanda's death was just so sudden and rushed, the ONLY interesting thing of the entire season was Eramis saving Mithrax after Mithrax talked to her to try and stop her using Rasputin. So Eramis looks to have switched sides. Other than that...Bungie really need to up their game and I pray this new Season reveals a lot about so many unanswered questions. I want the Veil explained and WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH XIVU ARATH!?
I feel short-changed that I just bought an expansion and season and don't feel like I got the full value. I feel short-changed that it ended extra early. I feel short-changed that on top of the above, Guardian Games eats up 3 weeks of it and they charge for an upgraded event card. The Season theme was pretty dull and might as well have been called Season of the Season. The story... if it's not fantastic, then so be it, as long as there are good activities and rewards. This was so-so. And yet? Reached a higher rank this season than any season I've ever played. Like, truth be told, its not because I'm having loads of fun on Strand as... I'm a Hunter main... I build around a kinetic handcannon and use void weapons for volatile, so its only there for suspend. Its not because I've got more weekly stuff to do, I've got less, they took away 3 weekly strikes from me (they made it so you can get them in nightfalls). _I think it might be,_ (come to think of it now I've just mindlessly rambled)... the change to Light Levels. Beginning of the expansion was annoying af trying to do Lost Sector's on Legend under-levelled, which then shortly thereafter became a godsend for being able to do master content when it caps you at 1815-1820. It just allowed me to do more high-end, fun content with newer players, which to me is an absolute positive, and having next season not increase the power cap makes it even sweeter.
Here's my thoughts. I stopped playing a month ago , and I didn't do any bounty prep for the first time in years. I haven't been this disappointed with Destiny since Curse of Oh you know what DLC. I hope tomorrow will bring me back.
I liked the seasonal content gameplay wise, but narrative it sucked just like lightfall. Why the fuck was the shadow legion kidnapping people, instead of killing them???
One thing about this season that I dont see anybody asking: from a purely strategic standpoint, why the prisoners? Why would the Shadow Legion and by extension the Witness and Calus, want or need prisoners? Contrived, forced plot point perhaps?
I agree 100%, I see myself playing a lot less of Destiny….All we get is new seasonal content? 30 minutes a week and I think I am done.. Diablo 4 I am available!!
Am i the only one who is in this perpetual loop of getting the Destiny 2 itch during the 'worst' seasons very frequently? Seriously, ive been playing daily though casually but season pass is way past 200 and i havent been satisfied with the story let alone gameplay due to the shitty difficulty increase. But i still had the D2 itch and i bet your ass the game will feel better in the upcoming season but my itch will be gone.
The final mission of the season was really disappointing. We blow up one ship and act like we did something, when the witness can just wave his hand and kill us all. Not to mention all the corny dialogue crow gave at the end, i just skipped it.
The seasonal weapons have been getting more easy to grab the least 2 seasons, if you random pull and have a full pattern completed, it’ll be less likely to drop and the ones you have less of will show up more, was DEFIANTLY the case in Seraph
As usual, Datto has it right on the money. Datto, thank you for being such a reasonable voice in the shitshow of destiny youtubers who use "outrage" to get clicks. You always call the good, bad and otherwise as they are, and its refreshing.
Honestly I've been appreciating the overall consistency of seasons since Season 13 (Chosen) and that we've been getting story beats in game more rather then just being told what happened in a blog post, especially as someone who remembers the dark days of Undying through Hunt and just how much of a slog that whole year was especially compared to now. (Also can we stop pretending that the Season of "Return to Ada-1"and Season of Gambit were all that great outside of the weapons themselves?)
Though I agree with you about season of the Joker but I absolutely loved Black Armory. Scourge of the Past is still one of my favorite raids (love the opening area).
Destiny community has been so overexposed to terrible seasons that even Datto has a mild reaction now. This season straight up sucked storywise, like seriously badly. Non of it made sense, the writing was childish and Amanda's death was as emotionally stimulating as lukewarm piss. Nobody, and I mean nobody can explain what the hell we were meant to be as Queensguard. We were not defending the queen, we were not part of her royal guard, she was spirit bombing in a field for 3 months. Utter trash. Im so hoping 21 has great lore but i doubt it.
I would agree that the story was awful, but I found the seasonal content to be fine. The way I see it, the battlegrounds are just strike additions which isn’t my cup of tea but I know people who do a ton of strikes and they are happy with them. The acquisition of seasonal weapon patterns this season was the best we’ve seen so far. It felt like every other activity I was getting a red border. Finally, I thought the vexcalibur quest and mission was exactly what an exotic mission should be. I don’t think this was a bottom tier season but it wasn’t a great season other. The very definition of mediocre.
@@EggyWeggyIII I agree, I was definitely focusing on the story as the weakest point. Gameplay was pretty solid with fun seasonal mods. But yes, battlegrounds are wearing very thin for me at this point.
@@TheNomadProphet id like to see a different take on seasonal content as we’ve seen a lot of battlegrounds but I definitely don’t agree with the people who claim that battlegrounds are the worst form of seasonal content. I would much rather do a series of strikes than a non-changing 20 min 6 player activity with dogshit rewards and awful enemy density.
Say you have no friends without saying you have no friends, how dare you dislike last season, are you the only one that's allowed to dislike a season then anime boy?
For Verglas Curve, fissures doesnt proc because it causes a secondary shatter layered on top of the base That doesn't count as a weapon kill, which causes the discrepancy.
I'm having a hard time separating my feelings about the season as a whole from Lightfall's campaign. That first few weeks really took it out of me and I just had a hard time enjoying the game after that so I checked out about halfway through the season.
This was the first season since Season of Undying that I took a break. I didn't finish the story and I let my FOMO fade. Gonna handle the next season a lot more casually.
So this is the season where i came back after a long long time. The last thing I remember is crow waking up as a new guardian, then took a break, came back around savathun but didn't stick around, and now finally came back. I am having fun, but yeah...story wise it's a miss and i didn't care for Amanda i never really had a connection with her character so meh....but everything else was pretty fun. Excited for the upcoming season along with 3 of my friends that joined me at returning to destiny
Imma be honest, outside of expansions I don't feel like we even need a level to grind. I sincerely hope no new system ever replaces pinnacle cap increases for seasons. And that once you hit the new pinnacle cap a new expansion brings, the only thing you'd ever care about would be the artifact.
The one thing about the possibility of Amanda being resurrected is that it would literally be the exact opposite story as Crow/Uldren. Disliked person does incredibly evil thing before he dies, gets rezzed, doesn't know why everyone hates him. With Amanda, it'd be loved person does incredibly heroic thing before she dies, gets rezzed, doesn't know why everyone loves her. It'd be interesting to see how Crow would react to her resurrection.
I'm just imagining crow doing exactly what spider did and taking advantage of her naivity to try and get what he wants. Then Mara can get mad at him for being a hypocrit for thinking he's different to crow and not her brother but still wanting Amanda to be his friend despite her being a different person.
They didn't "make changes" to combat the instability. They embraced it. Big difference. No real changes were announced regarding stability, they simply told us that now the inevitable reset downtime should be expected, rather than come as a surprise...every week. I would love to hear them say they've created a team, or really anything that sounds like improvement, but currently they've only tempered our expectations.
Yup better than Shadowkeep and better than Beyond Light. Sure it'd be nice if it was the greatest expansion of all time. But let's just be glad it's at least better than most expansions
I didn’t buy the digital deluxe this year because the seasons have become so samey. No power increase is great tho so I can come back for grandmasters and master raids
I still stand firmly on that pinancle grind was a good middle ground. Leave power leveling for the big expansions and pinnacle only for these seasons in between.
@@nahqiv When are you ever locked out of activities? You gotta be massivly behind for it to effect what activities your doing and it takes like 3 weeks running only one character to get pinnacle cap. 4 if you got really bad rng. So like 8 hours a week to do all pinnacles if that. I'm likely gonna get on tomorrow and there will be very little to probably check out given I wont need to pinnacle grind. I like going after all the triumphs but that will happen naturally just chasing the seasonal challenges each week so I didnt think it was a huge hassle
how would having ONE MORE guardian in story be bad? she deserves it, always wanted to be one, and uldrun was over THREE YEARS AGO! We need more guardians!
I thought the story was underwhelming, but they usually try to make the ones accompanying big expansions pretty light. Gameplay-wise I enjoyed it, battlegrounds were good.
i honestly think zavala's reaction made sense. amanda was almost like an adopted child to him. and she was lost too early. if you know his backstory, it makes sense he would be so saddened by it. his son was lost in the line of duty too. it destroyed his relationnship with his wife, and they never reconciled after.
My ONLY issue with Amanda's death is that our character was IN the room she was in during the cutscene when it started so why didnt we for example maybe try to protect her from the blast. she could still die but it would hit harder
Red borders may have been easy to get in the first week or two until the nerf to drop rates then (in my experience) they're non existent. Over a month of running heroic patrols with zero red borders to show for it.
stood on one spot the whole time !?!?!!?!?!!?!? 6:20 i was out there actully getting IT DONE. I HAD STASIS EVERYTHING AND OVERSHILDS AND INFANADS AND INFA ROCKETS
I think that bungie needs to work on the major story beats of seasons, there is more than likely going to be a lot of major story beats over these next couple of seasons as stories wrap up so I hope that going forward they can see that Amanda's death was a bit to synthetic and anticlimactic, its almost like they didn't know how to make it work in any other way and just made a random excuse for a lightless human to be inside one of the most heavily fortified shadow legion bases when there are guardians who can do this single handedly.
Makes you think why Hawthorne wasn't involved at all. Especially being one FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY she'd have fit right in with this season in helping Guardians freeing civilians from the Shadow Legion instead of just vibing in the tower being useless as usual.
In my opinion, the whole guardian games emote and then finisher "meta" is really enjoyable. I would not want another place where I just blow through everything the same way as I do in vanguard strikes. That would be really boring imo. The whole emote and finisher thing makes it so you have to play these strikes WILDLY differently. You need to strategize and use eachother's emote cooldowns for someone else to step in... what is annoying me is all the unraveling, shatter, volatile, inca, voltshot ruining this cuz we kill them too fast. Really have to just go in as a no fun loadout which I understand could be lame.
@2:36 ur supposed to feel sad datto, i think thats the tone bungie wanted to set...the statement "if we we're going to kill off a character..." saved u, cuz it sounded like u was saying u wanted to be happy she was gone...but...i see ur point....anyways, good video as usual
Honestly I dont know why but this season has felt way too long. Maybe its just cause we went from so many change in the year being that february, march, arpril and may are such different months when it comes to the year but also the season content and main dlc content literally only lasted us 2 fricken months. I dont understand how bungie can ok this content and extend it for this long. I dont know about yall but the drip feed content just feels extremely tired at this point. They always say the best things are yet to come with the next update or the next season or the next whatever, but it never seems to come. either they need to lengthen these seasonal stories and flush them out more, rather then just killing off un used characters everyone forgot about for shock and awe, which just falls flat, or shorten the season lengths and make more of them. I dont know, this season overall was very mid. The story and technical problems of lightfall were annoying but I could live with it since we were getting new things to do, but when those things burn out so quickly it feels like this season lasted way too long and not much to do. Well I guess this is a filler content year, and in reality, we should have been done with this fricken light a darkness story this year.
I think the light leveling is kind of dumb in general. Its not so much an intrinsic power boost on a lucky roll as it is a lazy way to implement mechanics that other looter type games already had in more interesting(if harder to balance) ways. I think the loot system that destiny has outside the light leveling is pretty good on its own, and its pretty clear that a lot of die hard destiny fans will keep playing even if they had every exotic in the game just for the sheer fact that they can get a better roll on perks or work on optimizing a new subclass. Its also annoying to have a pretty well done build only to have to change it JUST because the light level was higher and youre already at soft cap rather than something intrinsic to the armor piece itself, its no longer really a choice if you have to wear that new piece to even out the light levels for other world drops, preventing you from using that fun exotic you got in the middle of leveling or already had when light cap gets raised.
Amanda's death was very anticlimactic. We literally just had the backstory cutscene for her a week before, and then she blows up.
It was done so poorly I did not care at all
We really didnt need her
Would've been better if she died in that space debris crash in the intro to Lightfall. Now that I think about it, pretty sure that may have been the original plan back before Bungie realized they'd need to buy some time and push the ending to this Destiny saga to a later DLC, and instead stretched the introduction into a full DLC stuffed with filler content - AKA, the Lightfall we got.
@@joshuavidrine889 frr. She survived an impossible crash to die anyway in a random mission
@@kenric38 I can pull a ship out of the vault or collections wtf does a mechanic do
Finally, my opinion has arrived
One joke
@@akilh340 Gunna cry? 😢
Bro these jokes are getting old lol
@@wyattwharton1599 and so are you
Keep slugging, o' Ghalr mine. FOMO
Although this season was really mid, I did like the inclusion of devrim, rather than him standing in one place for years
Considering we haven't been involved with him in what like, 5 fucking years?
Hearing his voice again was quaint, feels like he was never gone for some reason
Oh boy i cant wait for him to stand in place for another half a decade before he gets shoved into the plot again
Zavala *is* the character that should be affected by Amanda's death the most. She showed up at the Last City early on as a child, and Zavala essentially raised her. That's why she was the Vanguard Shipwright.
Well in this very specific instance. I will give them some leeway. Because it’s not really possible for them to give him in depth voice lines or be featured in well, anything involved anymore. But that excuse only works this one time. In the future they need to figure this out.
@@SH1NK1R01 Figure what out? Zavala being affected by her death? What's the issue you're implying exists?
@@alexmoberg8943 the actor is dead. He can’t record more lines.
@@SH1NK1R01 "that excuse only works this one time" is an INSANE thing to say in this scenario. Implying the death of a VA and therefore that VA's character being less involved is an EXCUSE is out of touch and entitled. Really gotta reconsider your terminology here
@@alexmoberg8943 no I don’t. It’s just the reality that in the event of an untimely death they can’t possibly account for it and some parts of the production suffer. But it’s also the case that time marches on. His passing was sad but if you are going to say that the story should suffer for ever because he died. That’s truly insane. What’s out of touch and entitled is thinking that there is some special way to refer to a scenario like this or that people are obligated to speak on the matter in a way that is comfortable to you. I respectfully kept the specifics vague but since you didn’t understand I bluntly told you what had happened. You can’t just turn around and call foul when you didn’t even know what was going on.
It was absolutely a season and that’s about all I can say about it.
So…. boring and repetitive with a story written by a 15 year old?
@@JA-kr1lza season.
Its one of the seasons of all time
@@JA-kr1lz Come on, last year's seasons actually had pretty good stories. Though this one......yeah this one sucked.
@@hmx8694 with the exception of plunder i would agree
They didn't invest the time to make Amanda's death earn the emotions they were looking for. This is true of most big moments in the game.
I feel like they had the opportunity this season -- kind of like with Splicer -- to focus on the people of the Last City, who rarely get a spotlight, but it just kind of didn't happen. I think the death of Holliday might have been more impactful if there was a stronger emphasis on how civilians contribute to the fight against the Darkness, or how they feel about the Traveler leaving, etc. Maybe then Amanda's mission would have felt more like an embodiment of the will of the people (who *want* to help defend their home but lack the means) instead of a self-serving suicide run.
They seem allergic to acknowledging the Last City outside of lore tabs lmao
Imagine if the Shadow Legion tried to invade our home now that the Traveler was gone and the new missions were set in the city. It would help explain why non-lightbearers were with us since they don’t really have anywhere else to go.
I love how the season starts this cycle with loss. The final shape is approaching, people are going to get hurt or die. But it was just so darn sloppy, things go unexplained, an emotionally moving ending with Zavala was undercut by I weird revenge mission. Just messy.
One major point people are forgetting about Amanda being revived, we don’t know what happens to a Guardian who gets revived without the Traveler’s influence being there. The ghosts confirmed that while they can still use the light, they cannot feel the Traveler’s presence anymore.
Darkness time
She was revived?
And darkness was what let Savathun remember...
@@Connor_M13 No but people suspect that she will be. I’m just giving a counter argument to Datto’s “We already got this with Uldren/Crow”. If Amanda gets revived, we are in a point in the story where we don’t have the Traveler’s influence on the light anymore, the ghosts confirmed that it’s just gone.
There's nothing to suggest that anything different would happen. There's a lot of weird and different ideals posited by many characters that really only serve to drive home the idea that there aren't necessarily any rules behind it, nor any direct control from the Traveler. They've been very hands off, and also already were absent/wounded up until the red war.
The ghosts feel a difference in accessing the light without the Traveller around and any lightbearer or ghost might also feel similar differences, but the mechanics of resurrection and using the light etc. likely remain the same. The Traveler uses the light, probably the most powerful being that does, but doesn't control it all nor is the 'source'.
I feel the same about GG scoring; it sucks getting 100+ medals in a run only for the score to be lower than if I just emote-finished all the orange bars
No Amanda! Don’t start talking about your backstory !
“Why, am I gonna blow up ?”
Worse! Everyone will sigh and make fun of you… and then you’ll blow up.
Amanda’s death I feel like would have been better saved as one of those who got (literally) pieced up by the witness in the campaign. I would have been mind blown if someone we actually cared for would have been split into slices by the witness immediately upon starting the campaign. It would have really made the fight of “save non guardians” this season feel more important. Just my opinion.
Vexcalibur being a glaive and not a sword feels like a crime
Gameplay-wise, the recent quality of life changes and the overall feel of the gunplay feels like the best version of Destiny we've ever gotten. Story and content, obviously not, but the gameplay itself is fun and buildcrafting is very satisfying. And the art team never misses.
Other than the loadouts, the rest of the armor mod changes were terrible
@@marklo6283 i like that they condensed the ammo finder mods but overall the mod changes were not a good one.
Music and VFX never miss either.
The art team was clearly on vacation for weapon designs
The power delta changes basically forced us into SMGs or Quicksilver Storm, or just use a Machine Gun as a primary. Feels like the most restrictive season when it came to actual weapon relevance and diversity due to constantly being power capped and a lot of weapons suffering from that.
Just so you know Datto, I never finished any Red Border Weapon this season. my drops were stupidly low and i was getting bored very quickly.
4:57 I think that if they brought her back (that’s a big IF), they would have to do something to make her evil or have a negative character arc, or else they risk all character deaths feeling like they will just end up being a road to becoming a guardian, making death have no consequences
Wild theory: Witness is inside the Traveler now. Traveler gets a ghost to Amanda. Witness corrupts the ghost and we get a dark guardian. Crow is highly susceptible to coercion from Dark Amanda. Leads to heavy Vanguard losses.
@chriseddis Well you can throw that theory out the window. At least in regards to Crow. How is "Crow is susceptible to Dark Amanda's corruption" any different to him being corrupted by Riven? Its all just re-treading the the same stuff we have had before
New vanguard titan after Zavala sacrifices himself heroicly in Final Shape
This was definitely one of the seasons of all time‼️🔥💯🗣️
Mans didnt even watch the video and leaves a comment
@@sinzspades733 I mean, it is his opinion and doesn't require the video to validate their opinion.
That being said, it was definitely a season.
I literally skipped the cutscene for Amanda by accident and then it cut to crow and Mara Sov grieving over her body at the farm. My brain was so unbelievably lost.
I feel like maybe this was the point of the story of the season. Us/Zavala remembering that Bravery.. Devotion...sacrifice has one more line to it. Death. Not the bravery of ciatial, the devotion of misraaks, or the sacrifice of Rasputin. But just, death. Meaningless, non-glorified civilian death that didn't need to happen. Sometimes we act against our own self-preservation.
But that’s what war asks of the people who fight them. To go into harm’s way so that others don’t have…and some don’t make it back.
…and it’s not always a glorious end. Sometimes it’s just a trap that someone walks into that ends them. It’s nasty business.
Nah...don't try to see deep meaning where there's none.
It's just half assed half baked phoned in content.
@@gudgurl but…..that is war. That is life. So many people, some that you care a lot about, meet their end in a very anti-climatic way. Not everyone goes out guns blazing
Bungie’s biggest mistake is thinking we cared enough about a vendor who has done nothing but sit in the Tower’s hangar for 5 years and sell blue and green ships and sparrows that I am pretty sure never even rotated.
The problem with Amanda's death is she's a character who sat in the Tower for years and years with virtually no character development, then they killed her off this season and it felt abrupt and unearned. It's hard to care about Amanda dying when we hardly know anything about her other than she's this incredible pilot. Bungie needs to make sure these characters have actual arcs that are longer than just one season if they want people to feel invested.
She had a bit more development in the lore
I can just picture Datto as a titan in the vanguard meeting saying, why are none guardians out in the field risking there lives?! And me as a Warlock saying: Datto you cannot decide the faith of every human, they want to help. Locking every none guardian in the Last City what does it make us? Just another Bad guy with prisoners. guardian or not, we all have known the risk of wandering these fields. Amanda knew the risks and I know, it saddens me to.
Being WAY to nice about the season
It does seem like he’s going easy on this one.
Her death should have been from her being a pilot not a soldier on the ground, as one of the few remaining pilots or something like that, when we take out the prison ship we fail From some fail safe the cabal had so Amanda does a suicide run to destroy the ship
As an idea I spent 10 seconds thinking of
Defiance was good. Not bad, not amazing. I feel expansion seasons always take a backseat to the expansion itself.
But that wasn’t what happened last time . We actually had a damn good season to pair with witch queen. Bungie can do better
@@solarearbol1469 witch queen was an exception in a lot of ways. Unfortunately we cant expect it to be the norm, including its season
@@epicgamerzfail4575 Bungie's motto, "Don't put too much effort into a story or DLC, we can't elevate the players' expectations or they'll expect us to do more than just stay in our comfort zone of making barely passable 'content'" has been on display heavily as of late.
@@joshuavidrine889 Yep, Bungo's director himself said that...cannot overdeliver.
They really killed almost everyone in the hangar
Poor Saint 😢
Inb4 Amanda will be ressurected as a "Witness guardian" because of what the Witness is doing inside the Travaler.
Traveler
Hum...doing inside The Traveler.
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The seasonal quests felt a lot less like a drag in previous seasons. Major improvement for me as I like to go through it on all characters.
Honestly I feel like Datto is the only UA-camr that has completely given up hoping Bungie might exceed expectations. His generally positive outlook on the quality of the season seems more of a result of resignation than as a result of the season itself being good. More and more I think Datto’s outlook and opinions don’t reflect how most people feel.
Feels like you’ve lost touch man. The season was pretty mediocre with some of the worst writing we’ve ever seen since the game launched, and the excuse is that it was only there to pad the launch of Lightfall, which was a short, poorly-written misstep from Bungie in itself. No more excuses.. Bungie’s employing a minimum effort strategy here and we all feel it.
Worst seasonal story content ever. Not up for debate. Not only was it bad, it was terrible. Who cares about Devrim and Amanda Holliday
I think part of why this season felt so rough was that it just came off of Season of the Seraph. Don’t get me wrong, that season is far from the best, but with the character writing and relationships within them being so much stronger (not to mention that absolutely phenomenal ending cutscene), this season just felt so lacking in comparison.
My main reaction to Seraph’s ending was a deep sense of unease and sadness, all I felt from Defiance’s ending was indifference and disappointment.
Seraph was such a high and that’s why defiance felt so low
Personally, I disagree, because I really wasn't a fan of Seraph. I didn't have high expectations going in, in fact they were VERY low after doing the Lightfall Campeign. I thought it was pretty good, even the Amanda Death, but then the last mission was an abrupt U Turn. And it got me thinking about what I had seen.
The ending of seraph just made me angry, I get storys need to have things happen, but all I did was sit there and "10 years of rasputin teases for that...." haha
@@shauns28 that's exactly what pisses me off the most about it
The only reason I can see for non-guardian life being risked is the witness is a sorta, "all hands on deck" situation. If you're part of the vanguard, guardian or not, you need to fight for your life because without everyone's participation we cannot survive.
Idk why other than that
Because they want to? Amanda put herself in that situation because she wanted to help people more directly.
@@cryw1092 yeah exactly
Seasonal activity was dope - Agreed on all of those points.
14:00 at least that one had suspense with Crow almost blowing our new and fragile alliance
7:50 I think it was Byf that gave an update on Asher Mir saying he was eventually overwritten in the Vex Network. For anyone unfamiliar, it basically means erased.
I love the removal of pinnacle leveling. Gives people who don't play Destiny as a job time to catch up on things. I may have time now to learn the other raids/dungeons I don't generally play, or to finish out my stasis aspects, or to finish some catalyst, grind weapon levels, go do exotic missions, etc.
I know what you mean, I think I spent 90% of this season just grinding for power and pinnacle gear. I’m really glad they aren’t raising it next season.
Thats insane to me, I get maybe an hour or 2 a night and don't think I've ever taken longer than like 4-5 resets for pinnacle. I'm actually sad about the removal just in the sense that I find less of a reason to boot the game.
Each to their own I guess, change wouldn't be happening if I wasn't the minority I assume.
i have an idea, what if Amanda does get revived, but goes through really bad stuff right after that and eventually ends up being an antagonist leading a potentially enemy guardian race post the final shape saga. so she's basically the yin of Crow's yang. both got revived but one from bad to good and the other from good to bad.
As someone who couldn't enjoy this season at all I'm interested to hear Dattos opinion as this is the season that made me take a much deserved break from Destiny and really games as whole for a few months.
ha, I done exactly the same mate. Got bored of D2 super quick this season so took a well deserved break and feel better for it. Not hyped for the new season either tbh.
@@HyperionRexx same Destiny feels like it's lost some kick with lightfall which is a shame and I hope for a real kicker to drive me back in even if it's just to casual play, but for now I'm definitely just gonna watch from the sidelines.
Bro why do you say much deserved like anyone is keeping you playing. It so very normal to stop playing a game for a while. Let some content build up so you have stuff to come back to
Out of all the seasons, this was the most seasonal of them all
A meh season for the end of 1000 silver seasons, 1200 seasons better overdeliver
Of all the seasons of destiny this is certainly one of them
I'm kind of just ready to see how this all wraps up in Final Shape at this point. 10 years is a long time and it's starting to wear on me, but I want to see how they wrap up this arc of Destiny and see what it's going to look like going into the future.
After all the "the Season that launches with an expansion is usually baller" talk, I can safely say this is yet again one of the most boring seasons we've had in recent times. Amanda's death was just so sudden and rushed, the ONLY interesting thing of the entire season was Eramis saving Mithrax after Mithrax talked to her to try and stop her using Rasputin. So Eramis looks to have switched sides. Other than that...Bungie really need to up their game and I pray this new Season reveals a lot about so many unanswered questions. I want the Veil explained and WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH XIVU ARATH!?
Let’s not forget that bungie’s eulogy for Amanda, a VIDEO GAME CHARACTER mind you, was longer than reddick’s. The bastards
I feel short-changed that I just bought an expansion and season and don't feel like I got the full value.
I feel short-changed that it ended extra early.
I feel short-changed that on top of the above, Guardian Games eats up 3 weeks of it and they charge for an upgraded event card.
The Season theme was pretty dull and might as well have been called Season of the Season.
The story... if it's not fantastic, then so be it, as long as there are good activities and rewards. This was so-so.
And yet?
Reached a higher rank this season than any season I've ever played.
Like, truth be told, its not because I'm having loads of fun on Strand as... I'm a Hunter main... I build around a kinetic handcannon and use void weapons for volatile, so its only there for suspend.
Its not because I've got more weekly stuff to do, I've got less, they took away 3 weekly strikes from me (they made it so you can get them in nightfalls).
_I think it might be,_ (come to think of it now I've just mindlessly rambled)... the change to Light Levels.
Beginning of the expansion was annoying af trying to do Lost Sector's on Legend under-levelled, which then shortly thereafter became a godsend for being able to do master content when it caps you at 1815-1820. It just allowed me to do more high-end, fun content with newer players, which to me is an absolute positive, and having next season not increase the power cap makes it even sweeter.
Feels like the only moment that stuck with me was zavala kneeling over amandas coffin, but thats ofcourse for another reason : (
Here's my thoughts. I stopped playing a month ago , and I didn't do any bounty prep for the first time in years. I haven't been this disappointed with Destiny since Curse of Oh you know what DLC.
I hope tomorrow will bring me back.
I liked the seasonal content gameplay wise, but narrative it sucked just like lightfall.
Why the fuck was the shadow legion kidnapping people, instead of killing them???
One thing about this season that I dont see anybody asking: from a purely strategic standpoint, why the prisoners? Why would the Shadow Legion and by extension the Witness and Calus, want or need prisoners?
Contrived, forced plot point perhaps?
I agree 100%, I see myself playing a lot less of Destiny….All we get is new seasonal content? 30 minutes a week and I think I am done.. Diablo 4 I am available!!
Am i the only one who is in this perpetual loop of getting the Destiny 2 itch during the 'worst' seasons very frequently?
Seriously, ive been playing daily though casually but season pass is way past 200 and i havent been satisfied with the story let alone gameplay due to the shitty difficulty increase.
But i still had the D2 itch and i bet your ass the game will feel better in the upcoming season but my itch will be gone.
Amanda is a borderline NPC. We are supposed to feel something like Cayde’s death with Amanda’s death. That’s why they invented the word “contrived”.
The final mission of the season was really disappointing. We blow up one ship and act like we did something, when the witness can just wave his hand and kill us all. Not to mention all the corny dialogue crow gave at the end, i just skipped it.
havent played for over a month now, this season was just such a letdown for me, hoping the game picks up next season but highly doubt it.
They had to kill Amanda in the season because she wasn't killed in the Lightfall opening cinematic, which is also know as: absolutely bullshit.
I'm just hoping these changes to the formula they were talking about in season of the splicer innovate in interesting ways.
bud that was nearly 2 years ago
Better to keep low expectations, otherwise Bungo will always disappoint.
The seasonal weapons have been getting more easy to grab the least 2 seasons, if you random pull and have a full pattern completed, it’ll be less likely to drop and the ones you have less of will show up more, was DEFIANTLY the case in Seraph
As usual, Datto has it right on the money. Datto, thank you for being such a reasonable voice in the shitshow of destiny youtubers who use "outrage" to get clicks. You always call the good, bad and otherwise as they are, and its refreshing.
Honestly I've been appreciating the overall consistency of seasons since Season 13 (Chosen) and that we've been getting story beats in game more rather then just being told what happened in a blog post, especially as someone who remembers the dark days of Undying through Hunt and just how much of a slog that whole year was especially compared to now. (Also can we stop pretending that the Season of "Return to Ada-1"and Season of Gambit were all that great outside of the weapons themselves?)
Though I agree with you about season of the Joker but I absolutely loved Black Armory. Scourge of the Past is still one of my favorite raids (love the opening area).
Thank you for everything you do Datto
Destiny community has been so overexposed to terrible seasons that even Datto has a mild reaction now. This season straight up sucked storywise, like seriously badly. Non of it made sense, the writing was childish and Amanda's death was as emotionally stimulating as lukewarm piss. Nobody, and I mean nobody can explain what the hell we were meant to be as Queensguard. We were not defending the queen, we were not part of her royal guard, she was spirit bombing in a field for 3 months. Utter trash. Im so hoping 21 has great lore but i doubt it.
I would agree that the story was awful, but I found the seasonal content to be fine. The way I see it, the battlegrounds are just strike additions which isn’t my cup of tea but I know people who do a ton of strikes and they are happy with them. The acquisition of seasonal weapon patterns this season was the best we’ve seen so far. It felt like every other activity I was getting a red border. Finally, I thought the vexcalibur quest and mission was exactly what an exotic mission should be. I don’t think this was a bottom tier season but it wasn’t a great season other. The very definition of mediocre.
@@EggyWeggyIII I agree, I was definitely focusing on the story as the weakest point. Gameplay was pretty solid with fun seasonal mods. But yes, battlegrounds are wearing very thin for me at this point.
@@TheNomadProphet id like to see a different take on seasonal content as we’ve seen a lot of battlegrounds but I definitely don’t agree with the people who claim that battlegrounds are the worst form of seasonal content. I would much rather do a series of strikes than a non-changing 20 min 6 player activity with dogshit rewards and awful enemy density.
It was definitely the most boring season of this expansion🔥‼️
Say you have no friends without saying you have no friends, how dare you dislike last season, are you the only one that's allowed to dislike a season then anime boy?
RIP Amanda Holliday, Lance Reddick, and Season of Defiance...
For Verglas Curve, fissures doesnt proc because it causes a secondary shatter layered on top of the base
That doesn't count as a weapon kill, which causes the discrepancy.
hoping for a fun season with some replayability and an engaging/coherent story plot
Copium
@@omensoffate of the highest degree
I'm having a hard time separating my feelings about the season as a whole from Lightfall's campaign. That first few weeks really took it out of me and I just had a hard time enjoying the game after that so I checked out about halfway through the season.
Same here. First time I've taken a break from the game. Hoping Season of the Deep blows us away!
Perfectly sums up my thoughts about the season
This was the first season since Season of Undying that I took a break. I didn't finish the story and I let my FOMO fade. Gonna handle the next season a lot more casually.
I was literally just looking for this video!
So this is the season where i came back after a long long time. The last thing I remember is crow waking up as a new guardian, then took a break, came back around savathun but didn't stick around, and now finally came back. I am having fun, but yeah...story wise it's a miss and i didn't care for Amanda i never really had a connection with her character so meh....but everything else was pretty fun. Excited for the upcoming season along with 3 of my friends that joined me at returning to destiny
Amanda is the pilot character, and you're telling me she doesn't go down flying?
Imma be honest, outside of expansions I don't feel like we even need a level to grind. I sincerely hope no new system ever replaces pinnacle cap increases for seasons. And that once you hit the new pinnacle cap a new expansion brings, the only thing you'd ever care about would be the artifact.
I hope that the power level will be removed once and for all
The one thing about the possibility of Amanda being resurrected is that it would literally be the exact opposite story as Crow/Uldren. Disliked person does incredibly evil thing before he dies, gets rezzed, doesn't know why everyone hates him. With Amanda, it'd be loved person does incredibly heroic thing before she dies, gets rezzed, doesn't know why everyone loves her.
It'd be interesting to see how Crow would react to her resurrection.
I'm just imagining crow doing exactly what spider did and taking advantage of her naivity to try and get what he wants.
Then Mara can get mad at him for being a hypocrit for thinking he's different to crow and not her brother but still wanting Amanda to be his friend despite her being a different person.
My biggest problem narrative wise was we have zero clue why the shadow legion is kidnaping people or whos is leading them in calus absence
Psh I bet this mfer works on the game and creates the modifiers we all hate smh
They didn't "make changes" to combat the instability. They embraced it. Big difference. No real changes were announced regarding stability, they simply told us that now the inevitable reset downtime should be expected, rather than come as a surprise...every week. I would love to hear them say they've created a team, or really anything that sounds like improvement, but currently they've only tempered our expectations.
They did not say it would be every week also they said it wouldn’t be permanent
Wasn’t as bad as beyond light but light fall definitely takes second place in the worst DLC category
Yup better than Shadowkeep and better than Beyond Light. Sure it'd be nice if it was the greatest expansion of all time. But let's just be glad it's at least better than most expansions
I did not know emote into a finisher on orange health bars was a thing... The amount of activities where we fell 5-10k points short..
I didn’t buy the digital deluxe this year because the seasons have become so samey. No power increase is great tho so I can come back for grandmasters and master raids
Pretty sure they talked about season getting story changes for 23 or 24 ?
I genuinely think this is the worst season in destiny
I still stand firmly on that pinancle grind was a good middle ground. Leave power leveling for the big expansions and pinnacle only for these seasons in between.
I hope that the power level will be removed once and for all
@@nahqiv When are you ever locked out of activities? You gotta be massivly behind for it to effect what activities your doing and it takes like 3 weeks running only one character to get pinnacle cap. 4 if you got really bad rng. So like 8 hours a week to do all pinnacles if that. I'm likely gonna get on tomorrow and there will be very little to probably check out given I wont need to pinnacle grind. I like going after all the triumphs but that will happen naturally just chasing the seasonal challenges each week so I didnt think it was a huge hassle
Avalon was the biggest W by far of this whole expansion/season imo. But I am bias, my favorite season was Splicer.
how would having ONE MORE guardian in story be bad? she deserves it, always wanted to be one, and uldrun was over THREE YEARS AGO! We need more guardians!
I thought the story was underwhelming, but they usually try to make the ones accompanying big expansions pretty light. Gameplay-wise I enjoyed it, battlegrounds were good.
i honestly think zavala's reaction made sense. amanda was almost like an adopted child to him. and she was lost too early. if you know his backstory, it makes sense he would be so saddened by it. his son was lost in the line of duty too. it destroyed his relationnship with his wife, and they never reconciled after.
It was awful. I cannot take the seasonal format anymore.
Love all the videos as of late :)
Finally I know what I should think about this season
My ONLY issue with Amanda's death is that our character was IN the room she was in during the cutscene when it started so why didnt we for example maybe try to protect her from the blast. she could still die but it would hit harder
Red borders may have been easy to get in the first week or two until the nerf to drop rates then (in my experience) they're non existent. Over a month of running heroic patrols with zero red borders to show for it.
destiny been dropping the ball ever since season of opulence
stood on one spot the whole time !?!?!!?!?!!?!?
6:20
i was out there actully getting IT DONE.
I HAD STASIS EVERYTHING AND OVERSHILDS AND INFANADS AND INFA ROCKETS
I think that bungie needs to work on the major story beats of seasons, there is more than likely going to be a lot of major story beats over these next couple of seasons as stories wrap up so I hope that going forward they can see that Amanda's death was a bit to synthetic and anticlimactic, its almost like they didn't know how to make it work in any other way and just made a random excuse for a lightless human to be inside one of the most heavily fortified shadow legion bases when there are guardians who can do this single handedly.
Oh, the end if the season already? I forgot to play again.... I don't... Like lightfall....
Makes you think why Hawthorne wasn't involved at all. Especially being one FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY she'd have fit right in with this season in helping Guardians freeing civilians from the Shadow Legion instead of just vibing in the tower being useless as usual.
In my opinion, the whole guardian games emote and then finisher "meta" is really enjoyable. I would not want another place where I just blow through everything the same way as I do in vanguard strikes. That would be really boring imo. The whole emote and finisher thing makes it so you have to play these strikes WILDLY differently. You need to strategize and use eachother's emote cooldowns for someone else to step in... what is annoying me is all the unraveling, shatter, volatile, inca, voltshot ruining this cuz we kill them too fast. Really have to just go in as a no fun loadout which I understand could be lame.
@2:36 ur supposed to feel sad datto, i think thats the tone bungie wanted to set...the statement "if we we're going to kill off a character..." saved u, cuz it sounded like u was saying u wanted to be happy she was gone...but...i see ur point....anyways, good video as usual
Shame that Amanda's death was lampshaded 2 years ago huh?
12:30 - I hate how MOST PEOPLE forget this every years.
Bungie: "Let's have anticlimactic season to go hand in hand with anticlimactic DLC!"
Players: "LOL no."
Bungie: Surprised Pikachu face.
Honestly I dont know why but this season has felt way too long. Maybe its just cause we went from so many change in the year being that february, march, arpril and may are such different months when it comes to the year but also the season content and main dlc content literally only lasted us 2 fricken months. I dont understand how bungie can ok this content and extend it for this long. I dont know about yall but the drip feed content just feels extremely tired at this point. They always say the best things are yet to come with the next update or the next season or the next whatever, but it never seems to come. either they need to lengthen these seasonal stories and flush them out more, rather then just killing off un used characters everyone forgot about for shock and awe, which just falls flat, or shorten the season lengths and make more of them. I dont know, this season overall was very mid. The story and technical problems of lightfall were annoying but I could live with it since we were getting new things to do, but when those things burn out so quickly it feels like this season lasted way too long and not much to do. Well I guess this is a filler content year, and in reality, we should have been done with this fricken light a darkness story this year.
I think the light leveling is kind of dumb in general. Its not so much an intrinsic power boost on a lucky roll as it is a lazy way to implement mechanics that other looter type games already had in more interesting(if harder to balance) ways.
I think the loot system that destiny has outside the light leveling is pretty good on its own, and its pretty clear that a lot of die hard destiny fans will keep playing even if they had every exotic in the game just for the sheer fact that they can get a better roll on perks or work on optimizing a new subclass. Its also annoying to have a pretty well done build only to have to change it JUST because the light level was higher and youre already at soft cap rather than something intrinsic to the armor piece itself, its no longer really a choice if you have to wear that new piece to even out the light levels for other world drops, preventing you from using that fun exotic you got in the middle of leveling or already had when light cap gets raised.