BMW B58 Engine Reliability 2021 ( M140I 135I 335I 340I)
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- BMW B58 Engine Reliability 2021 ( M140I 135I 335I 340I )
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#BMWB58 #BMWRELIABILITY #BMWM140I - Авто та транспорт
No bullshit, no frills and fancy edits, just straight down to the point...great video man...
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Great video! So helpful.
Another top video Dean
Good Engine in right hand, 100% Truth Thanks Dean!
Right hand? Basic maintenance is all it’s need. Nothing special. Forged deck design 🤟🏼
Great video Keep it up dan. Please also for The B57
Great video as always! I love the car and I find myself checking up on it. The best BMW engine yet but there are always problems if the owner isn't diligent. With great power comes great responsibility. People are willing to spend a good chunk of change on a vehicle and they want power and to not even think about it. With the simplicity of an electric system I can't see engines going on as the primary power plant for cars. Hopefully governments will see the novelty and understand why buyers want the drama.
Always awesome bro!
Love this doc, been so busy lately ain't been around. You're 100% right bro B58 is a reliable engine, people moan as soon as something fails but 9 time out of 10 it's them thrashing the engine as soon as they start the car up and wonder why parts start to fail when you're pushing extreme loads on a cold engine when the oil hasn't even gone round it...
And not maintaining them properly. I have done 100.000km on my m140i without a single issue.
they change oil at 10000 miles what morons....
Thanks for the info! What year m5 do you have? Any issues with the motor?
Love this vid. I'm thinking of buying my first BMW, had a f20 116/118i in mind with the N13 engine... Was wondering what your thoughts are with them engines and if you've got anything to look out for
i had a f30 with n20 motor tuned was amazing no issues now i got a tuned b58 again no issue fantastic motors and cars
First of all, thanks for the helpfull video. I have a question, is there another way to check the oil other than using the Idrive system?
Great video, is there any chance there’s on for the B48 if there is I can’t find it thanks again 👍🏽
I just bought myself my first ever BMW 2018, 13K Miles on it. Your video brought me even more peace of mind. Thank you.
ditto, 340i xdrive same year and mileage mppsk
@@dhoyt902 how much did u pay
Great video Dean I’m shocked that all these issues are popping up the B58 is a pretty new variant and I watched the lead Toyota engineer talk about the reliability of this motor apparently Toyota took his motor completely apart to and found it met Toyota’s signature reliability. But you learn something everyday. Keep the content coming.
B58tu is the updated one
@@jrboostin do they offer that in the 540i?
Either Toyotas standards have dropped or they were given the revised version of the b58
Toyota made the worst mistake of their life thinking that BMW has any inkling of understanding of Reliability. Did they forget about the legendary 1JZGTE and 2JZGTE Stupid Toyota build a real SUPRA . You do not learn do you. You should know better then this.
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Hiya mate , do you actually have your own place ‘ & do you do the work etc etc as a business, just thinking for future use ??
Cheers , cant tell you how refreshing it is to hear proper advice and knowledge , got some great videos,
Thanks for the video! Could you please do one on B57 too?
What’s that?
@@justinwallace3848 The diesel variant.
New sub. I’m about to trade my evo in for a 340i next month. I’m apprehensive since previously owned a 2008 335i (n54). Thanks for making this video
Just about to buy a 335i 2008, 56k miles , FSH, did you have issues? Cheers 🍻
@@Nod4750 turbo seals go at 100k. Water pump. Coolant reservoir cracked
So basically it is pretty reliable, it doesn't suffer from rod bearing failures like the N55 can.
Reliable if you replace the quart of oil it sips every 1500 miles, effectively doubling your cost of oil over the lifetime of the vehicle.
BMW on engine oil consumption: nah bro those are ADDITIONAL FEATURES
Watched another video (no brainer) I believe.
He says the vanos solenoids are to the rear of the engine now, is this true? If so I imagine the labour charge will be horrendous.
Also, can I periodically check my oil filter without harming anything?
Another great video btw! 👌
@@sly9263 lol how expensive is oil? Really? Come on man.
@@sly9263 no oil consumption here in the M140i, 3000 miles after oil change and not a drop oil is gone.
@@petef7323 that is true its now in the rear
Mine is at 42k now, had no issues so far and bought it brand new in 2016. A change the oil every 5k and its put out over 500hp, other common problem is oil filter housing is made from plastic and can crack if not torque right / too tight.
Nice bro im lookin to buy a m240i
25NM is the right torque right?
Please do one on the b48
I have the coolant loss problem but I can't recall it being a leak. I did run a test at the dealership and they could not find any leaks. What I instead went to do is just refill coolant and it's fine again now. Only problem so far at 40000 miles.
Some say replacing the coolant cap has fixed their leaking issue. Is your coolant still dropping?
What do you think about sprint booster for N52 engines Dean?
I'm Chinese and I barely use Chinese parts for my N52 as genuine BMW parts last longer and less issues afterwards, unless the CCV on the valve cover has to be changed individually (without changing the valve cover as the CCV is built in the cover and no genuine BMW CCV for the black cover N52)
Own a m240i and 540i. Both at over 50k miles now. No engine issues. Huge performance gains from very affordable mods.
How much oil your 540i burns?
@@FreshJungleJuice0.
I've had the M340i since last July since new, done about 1200 miles, no issues so far but we have been in lockdown
Lucky bastard thats my dream car
@@fy6633 you’ll get it one day no worries
@@fy6633 get the 140i way better and less weight
Hi Mate, With the new Ineos Grenadier coming out with the two options of either a B57 or B58. Which one would you sway to. Thank you
B58
How about the hydraulic lifter? Many engine had problem with that
Can you do a video on the b58 in the 2020 and 2021 Supra
Can you talk about stock vs tuned boost and reliability?
I have a 2021 M340i x, no problems so far, i am told the first oil change is at 29,000 klms! Is this the case in the uk? I am in Australia
Dean. My 340 has near 400 bhp. Do you recommend I have the oil changed, say every 6 months? What else do you suggest I do to eliminate any possible problems from a B58 engine with near 400 bhp.
Thanks for letting me know of the possible problems I should be looking out for. 👍BMW Doctor
My Vanos Solenoids have just gone on my B58 (67 plate 340i on 58k miles) only bought the car from BMW couple of days ago. You were spot on with the symptoms. It was lumpy on idle and acceleration was strange, felt like the auto box was struggling. Then the EML light came on. Got it scanned and it’s now with BMW (under warranty) being sorted. Hopefully hasn’t called damage to the Vanos unit. Should I be worried about consequential damage?
How did it turn out?
@@ociabi Vanos unit, actuator and injector all replaced under warranty. Also got some compensation from BMW.
@@ByronUKhow much would it have been out of warranty?
can we do a b48 video m thinking of buying a 520i
I'm in the market for 2017-18 340i 35-60k miles, what should I be prepared to look out for?
Hi does the B58 (M140) have the weak oil pump?
B58👌
I like the B58. In my MK5 Supra :)
Take care of the car and it will take care of you pretty much
if you buy a BMW, you should assume you'll be at the dealer, this is part of BMW business model, or their dealer network and parts department will be out of business, for SURE do not buy cheap ebay or amazon fake parts, and 3000-5000 oil change is cheap insurance
It’s been out for 7 years now, and we still hear only about somewhat trivial issues. I’ve already saw some people with 160kmiles on it (very few of course, but still), and it doesn’t seem to “turn into a pumpkin” at this mileage
That’s really good because most engines fail at 100k for all manufacturers
@@gottgaame 2013 Accord, 132,000+ miles and still functional
@@gottgaame no they don’t lol
@@gottgaamenot true at all lol
Also be aware that the radiators are poorly protected - the grilles are pretty useless.
Boost pressure is not going to be the root cause of oil pan/valve cover gasket leaks. Those have been bmw issues since forever and trust me, that's long before they were turbocharging their street engines. The root cause of those leaks boils down to gasket materials and heat cycling. It's going to happen to literally every car out there today.
Coolant loss can be as simple as replacing the main circuit reservoir cap, you'll see the residue on the threads if this is the case. Worst case you have a leak from the intake manifold where the liquid to air intercooler is located and will have to replace it. Also keep in mind that these engines reverted to a mechanical water pump mounted to the engine block for the main circuit and therefore it can leak. Head gasket failure is quite rare for these engines.
Pcv issues are common on this engine series. The first gen b58 has a serviceable pcv diaphragm that can tear which will cause a crazy amount of smoke at idle, luckily it's a $30 part that's easily replaced. The 2nd and 3rd gen b58 do not utilize this and if you have one you will have to replace the valve cover.
Fuel injectors can be problematic for this engine and a leaky injector can cause engine damage, ive certainly heard of more than a few injector failures occurring with this engine that have caused serious problems for their owners.
what about oil consumption?
The b58 was never on the 135/335.
He from uk. It might be different for him
35i models never got the b58
@@alexd5240 no it doesn't matter, bmw changed the nomenclature when they introduced the b58. The 35i only came with the n54/55 engines, nothing else.
The b48 had a variant with the 35i designation, but still. Not the b58
@@zsolthajdu3774 Self rebadged and ///M316 dont count!
So here in the states 2018 and newer?
I have 76,000 miles on my 2018 X5sDrive35i and I have done nothing to it other than routine maintenance every ten thousand miles. It uses less than 1/2 quart of oil in 10,000 miles. It’s looking like the brakes will have to be done before 100,000 miles.
Just to clarify it is a turbo charged engine right ?
What about 740 li?? Is it reliable??
Do you think these issues are still on a current b58s on the new 2021 m340i?
My friend had issues @ 5k miles with the engine consuming too much oil. It got so bad to where the car was spitting out so much fumes and “hotboxed” the cabin of the car
And this is why i will still not buy another one. As much as I want to, i won’t.
What is the name of the intro song?
A number of points on this video are not actually quite correct.
1. The Vanos solenoid shown in the video isn’t off a B58
2. Neither is the oil filter. Oil filter failures have nothing to do with the filter being crushed through over tightening. It is due to a design flaw in the filter and the O rings at its base gripping too tightly on removal leading to the base of the filter shearing off.
Impossible to crush the filter unless you install the wrong part.
3. The coolant loss common on the B58 and is caused by the use of O-rings in the coolant caps. These dry out and seize which damages them when the caps
What about oil starvation like the m135i had does this suffer also
for future reference it would be great if you listed the sort of milage that these problems pop-up. e.g. seels tend to go at 60k or whatever it might be. Cheers
That is very very hard to say as that depends on the owners previously to the car if the car had been looked after, then you won’t encounter half these issues. If you get a bad neglected one these problems will be imminent straight away as soon as you buy it regardless of mileage. I hope this helps its very hard to say what car a person will buy and with what mileage and from who. Therefore I can’t tell you exactly when they will fail just they are known to fail but it’s all different upon different cars
@@BMWDoctor yeah that makes sense but an average would be a good marker. Do some issues pop up at 15k or will they last for ages. I get that each engines are driven differently but a good indication from average wear would be great. Example being, tyres generally last for 10-15k miles unless you drive hard if it’s a good tyre.
Again mate tyres vary on all cars. Has the person been doing burnouts ? Has he been drifting ? Did he put on cheap budget tyres ? It can all vary as cheap tyres will wear down before even 5k if your doing burnouts they won’t even last 1000 miles it’s all different you know what I mean.
That’s why I would change my 540i with a Honda hybrid
I'm guessing this is applicable to the B48 also, since it is pretty much the B58 but with 4 cylinders instead of 6
Would Toyota actually consider using the B58 in their Supra if it wasn't going to meet the usual Toyota reliability standards?
I'm getting an m140i pretty soon, heard of the usual coolant loss, oil filter damage and exhaust valve spring rattle.
First I've heard of the ignition coils, that was a snag on the N55 35i engines and older straight 6's, never heard of it on B58 40i engines until now. Coolant loss almost always shows up no leaks when checked so just keep topping it up and it doesn't seem manifest itself into anything.
Most common is exhaust valve spring rattle, easily fixed as you and many others have shown. Only other thing I can think, servicing wise I don't think they have a service interval for the ZF gearbox fluid, but ZF themselves recommend something like 60k miles off the top of my head? Worth considering if you're going to be owning the car long term as I believe even at an Indy you're looking at £300 minimum. And that's one thing you should be careful with who you trust to do that gearbox service. I'd only take mine to a BMW Indy that's done plenty as there are quite a few things to go wrong by all accounts.
Wait till mid 2022 before buying a m140i used car prices are off the roof at the moment, I was gonna grab a 2017 shadow edition with 25k miles for 17 grand auto box, now same cars risen to 22 grand
@@prometheustv2084 The price is only going to rise. It's already a classic.
So its unreliable ? I wanted 540i 2018 2019 reliability is my concerne
Just maintain the engine and it will treat you well.
would you say im better off getting a 2015 335i or 2016-2017 340i? i was thinking the last model 335i would have the kinks worked out?
340i or 530i or 740i
2021 M340i not b58tu ???
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I have a Toyota Supra mk5 with the B58 is it reliable
I also have the same car. I've see an engine being taken apart to see just what the insides are made of. Their is so much plastic... so much
26 mpg florida driving
auto rwd 340I
This guy really knows his shit..
hey ppl any opinions on their experience with the m340i b58?
How about B57? Does it have the same issues N57 has and is it anywhere near as good or better compared to M57?
Can you tell me what are the common issues in the the N57 engine?
@@abdbach379 rod bearings
@@abdbach379 no, they don't.
this problem is no longer present due to a redesign and better engineered oil pump
This guy really knows his beans..
you lost me speaking about the coils ... "if you loose one : you put stress on the others !" ... ??? how the hell will you technically explain that ?
Love how no one brings up my 540i😌
Is it reliable ? I am looking 2018 2019 540i
What about 440i, I was interested buying 2018 440i from dealership
It’s the same engine ...........
11k my fuel pump just decided to stop working....
Does the 540i also have this engine ?
Yes
To any talking most the things wrong with this motor is common in most turbo motors
Ahhh i'm not a mechanic so i have no chance to buy this
I think I'm going with a Q50 after this video 😆
i have a strong alcohol smell in cabin, was thinking it was coolant... not sure, carpets not wet, coolant is fine.... really strange - this is in my m140i - any idea's
Mate, did you leave a bottle of hand sanitizer in your car and it fell under your seat? lol
Window washer fluid? Some garages use a strong ethanol washer fluid to top up.
Check your boot for a homeless man
If this is considered a reliable bmw engine, I'm scared to find out what the less-reliable bmw engines do lol. I'll postpone my purchase for now. Thanks!
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Depends on the x5 bmw you choose lol. Which is bmws most unreliable suv I think it’s really the weight
My B58 is making a dirty chirp noise when I start it up and I do not know what it is and I’m shitting it
What did BMW service diagnose?
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You miss m240i
I can't understand why BMW persists with the silly plastic valve cover. Mercedes does not do this madness and doesn't have these silly issues with valve timing solenoids etc. I think a Merc might have similar "issues" in terms of quantity to a BMW, but the Mercedes seem to built for better long term durability.
On VANOS solenoids, change the oil every 7,500 to 10,000 km instead of the silly long recommended interval and you can avoid that issue in my experience.
The oil filter issue is shocking. They never had this issue in the past in my experience but they also never used to bury these under the freakin' intake manifold which BMW chose to do on this engine for a reason that is beyond comprehension.
On ignition coils, I swapped all of mine at 180K km when they didn't fail on my N55.
With BMW's failure to address these issues and the stupid oil filter and timing chain locations, I'm thinking it's time to switch to something simpler and better thought out.
Yeah i have a b58 gen1 m140i it take not even 2min of driving and it up to temperature then it foot to the floor i haven't had one problem i don't know what this guy's talking about
Oil pan gasket issues?
They will leak, when I bought my car I did a visual inspection of it prior to purchase and it was clean, replaced my brakes a month later and caught it leaking so brought it straight back to bmw and had it resealed under warranty. They utilize rtv for the gasket, it was like 40 bucks for the sealant and all the oil pan bolts, 1300 bucks for labor cause the front subframe has to be dropped to remove the pan.
Best thing to do is to avoid this brand alltogether :))) live a more relaxed and healthier life.
Really wish I could. No word of a lie, I have just been diagnosed with a illness and my doctor and hospital said its because of the stress of the car and UA-cam in my life. So I can vouch for that and say you're right, But these cars are a bad bad addiction like a drug im not joking. NOTHING ELSE feels the same and level of technology I cant live without as I love technology and the latest stuff, Otherwise I think my health would re improve and so would my quality of sleep all together. As I don't even sleep worrying about the things over night getting robbed or stolen or not starting or if I'm gonna be able to source parts.
BMW is a constant worry and think of it as having a wife and baby, These cars are for people who don't have anything else but there car to care about, and believe me if I didn't have this channel I would drive a Mercedes.
@@BMWDoctor I can totally relate, take care and stay safe. Wishing you all the best!
@@BMWDoctor are Mercedes’ more reliable?
@@BMWDoctor I have a Camry V6 that has very low mileage. Silky smooth V6, 0-60 in around 5.5-6 seconds! I’d love to experience a BMW one day, but I think after reading about their supposedly most reliable engine, the most I’d do is lease one. I’m keeping my Camry for another 20 years at this rate.
Are they still using Plastic Timing Chain Guides and Water Pump Assemblies??...if so they will never be a vehicle i buy
then dont and fuck off
Nearly any timing chain vehicle you buy has plastic guides, ive been in this business for nearly 20 years and never heard of metal guides in any modern engine so there's that. B58 utilizes a mechanical water pump bolted to the block for the main circuit, so if it fails you'll at least spot a leak instead of just having no coolant flow out of nowhere.
@@JeeperZJ Lexus for the win!
BMW should partner with Toyota Denso more and move away from Bosch
Not so sure about reliability after just 105,000 miles...
This is not spam... I really need help with this.
My 2017 BMW 540i G30 just burned a valve #4 cylinder. (105k miles) I had the vsfr high flow cat, upgraded charge pipe, k&n air filter, new B58TU Fuel pump, and Bootmod3 Stage 2+ 93 octane.
I am beyond depressed!😢 I am a Single Dad with 1 special needs, child.
I was told I need a new engine that will cost 21k installed. I just can't! 😭
I still owe 25k, and it is my only car. I have nothing right now and am about to lose my job. I can't get my kids to the doctors, etc... If you can please reach out to your connections and see if they can help, I would be forever grateful 🙏
(Huntsville, Alabama USA)
🤔A rebuild and breakdown of what went wrong with my B58 might help others with B58. (Content Idea)
God bless you, brother!!!
~J. McCall
Why are there so much PLASTIC components in the engine area amongst German Lux cars?
It's not only germans. All od them use the damn plastic for the same components...
I have n55 in the X3, and n55 update in the m235i in both explode the charge Pipe, in my m140i the engine explode the cylinder #1 with only 7000 kms BMW dont give me warranty, has engine, has company, doesn't recommend.😐🔥🏎️ 25.000 usd to buy a new engine
Bro who is charging you 25 k for a n55 lmao the dealer ??
@@MultiBluedog123 Better question, why is he blowing up so many engines and charge pipes?
Been driving an N55 in a 2014 535xi GT. The car weights over 4K pounds, and no catastrophic issues.
All the same crap as the older engines. Amazes me BMW cannot fix the same issues they had forever.
No your wrong ! It ain’t the engines that’s unreliable, it’s the owners.
At this rate, it’s more of a feature, rather than an issue
BMW is suck! never rectified thier problem after so many generation...!