BMW 340i B58 Blown Engine Teardown! How Did Someone Kill This Thing Already? Lets Find Out!

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  • Опубліковано 14 січ 2022
  • Want to see a particular engine torn down? I may have already done one! I've made over 50 other teardowns from Cummins to an LS7, and from Rotary to Ram Ecodiesels. Check them out here • Blown Up Engine Tear D...
    My name is Eric and I own and run a full service auto salvage business called Importapart located in the Saint Louis MO area. Part of our model is dismantling and selling parts from rare and niche market engines. If you're interested in buying parts from this engine or the other engines I've torn down, email us at Importapartsales@gmail.com.
    Huge shout out to Phil at GAP Automotive in South Florida for supplying this weeks teardown! Today I tear down a blown up(or out) BMW B58B30 Engine from a 2017 BMW 340i. This engine is used in the majority of the BMW lineup and even the new Supra! Its an engine that is still in production so I was excited to see how it comes apart, and how it came apart. Overall, I much rather work on one of these than its predecessor. This engine is much simpler than the N55. Seems to be pretty well made though I do have concerns over the timing system location in years to come.
    I hope you enjoyed this teardown!
    As always, I love all the comments, feedback and even the criticism! Love it all.
    Catch you on the next one!
    -Eric
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  • @robsoto6340
    @robsoto6340 2 роки тому +625

    You could tear apart a lawnmower engine and I’d tune in. There’s something oddly satisfying watching these auto autopsies!!

    • @hyperboloidofonesheet1036
      @hyperboloidofonesheet1036 2 роки тому +5

      You mean like a Mitsubishi 3B30? My "smart" car is offended.

    • @john8890
      @john8890 2 роки тому +11

      I kinda hope he does tear down a lawnmower engine

    • @Backroad_Junkie
      @Backroad_Junkie 2 роки тому +5

      I have a Toro that broke its connecting rod. (At least, that's what it sound like.)
      I'd send it in to him gratis, but I think it died because of oil starvation, and I don't want to look like an idiot, lol. (The lawnmower was 25+ years old, so it could have just been plain tired...)

    • @joshquarry
      @joshquarry 2 роки тому +12

      When I’m watching my wife gives me a funny look and asks, is that actually interesting? Of course!

    • @ericpectol6407
      @ericpectol6407 2 роки тому

      That would be a really short video.

  • @crazieman
    @crazieman 2 роки тому +309

    I do believe this is the first engine that has attacked you on camera.

    • @andrewkennedy9704
      @andrewkennedy9704 2 роки тому +51

      Must've talked to the chair.

    • @CathyInBlue
      @CathyInBlue 2 роки тому +33

      All of the parts flying off this engine are of the very finest German manufacture.

    • @davidnelson6893
      @davidnelson6893 2 роки тому +2

      @@CathyInBlue HAHAH

    • @joshquarry
      @joshquarry 2 роки тому +15

      It looked like the timing chain tensioner attempted a nut shot.

    • @joshquarry
      @joshquarry 2 роки тому +18

      @@CathyInBlue this engine was actually designed under the supervision of Toyota. Due to their exacting standards, BMW almost pulled out of their partnership. I work for a company that is based in Germany (I’m in the US though). I have had chances to see how the Germans engineer things and let me tell you, it is strange and definitely not designed for longevity. Due to the way that the way the German workforce is structured, I wouldn’t be surprised if this isn’t just isolated to the industry I work in.

  • @JF-xq6fr
    @JF-xq6fr Рік тому +12

    Yesterday I watched a video of this engine being assembled at the factory, today it disassembled in Missouri. Can't beat that. Thanks Eric.

  • @joeblow5037
    @joeblow5037 2 роки тому +207

    Never underestimate a wife's chair throwing skills.

    • @codysykes5568
      @codysykes5568 2 роки тому +11

      I'm happy to inform you I am your 69th upvote. Nice.

    • @fteoOpty64
      @fteoOpty64 2 роки тому +7

      Throwing chair is better than porcelain plates flying towards you! 😢😅

  • @richardspees841
    @richardspees841 2 роки тому +144

    I can't even imagine the carnage if that counterbalance had come off the crank at 6000 rpm when the rod let go.

    • @AlinTrinca
      @AlinTrinca 2 роки тому +18

      Send that puppy in space so damn quick fast and in a hurry, it would make Elon jealous.

    • @rawevoli
      @rawevoli Рік тому

      how though?

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. Рік тому

      Counterbalance in an in-line 6?
      The beauty of such an engine is that doesn’t need a counterbalance.
      (Edit: my bad it was the counterbalance of the crankshaft)

    • @Lynxtro
      @Lynxtro Рік тому

      @@Conservator. think hes refering to the counter weights on the crankshaft. You can see its badly cracked at 18:10

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. Рік тому

      @@Lynxtro Ah, I see now 🤦‍♂️ Thank you!

  • @number1Schumacherfan
    @number1Schumacherfan 2 роки тому +169

    A lot if not most of the gasket issues in BMW’s were realized after BMW changed to an O/C interval of 15k. They have since revised that down to 10k, but enthusiasts who take care of their vehicles change the oil every 5k-7.5k. These engines will last a LONG time if you take care of them.

    • @perjanuschas8050
      @perjanuschas8050 8 місяців тому +12

      Absolutely 100% agreed. Only morons will adhere to the extended change intervals of oil and coolant. Does anyone remember GM NorthStar engines? Intervals set at 100000 miles? used in some Cads and Olds, maybe others. They turned out to be a disaster when not getting their Oil and Coolant changed. That engine supposedly could run for a long time without coolant even. VERY BAD IDEA. Do yourselves a favor, and let me give my two cents worth of knowledge (having worked in the oil and gas industry for quite a while) Oil, wether synthetic or mineral, all come out of a hole in the ground. The difference on the synthetic oil is additives and monodispersed balls (also known as the Uglestad balls after the nowegian inventors name "Uglestad") They are really microscopic uniform polymer particles, perfectly spherical, and acts like ball bearings. (invented for use in medical research at first, but other industries like oil caught on) They were a revolution when released on the market, and Mobil1 containes these to this date. This is why Synthetic Mobil1 is probably the best motoroil you can get. I would guess others followed up but Mobil1 was first in the mid 80's. I've never had motor problems with oil, but I fastidiously cahnge it every 7-8k miles.

    • @v12-s65
      @v12-s65 7 місяців тому +9

      15k? Mate in europe it‘s even more

    • @a12655504
      @a12655504 7 місяців тому +6

      Miles, not kilometers

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 7 місяців тому +9

      Nah, the valve cover gasket and oil filter housing gaskets on the N engines will leak regardless of interval. I've seen it on N55s with 40k miles and 5k changes. It has little to do with the OCI unfortunately and everything to do with the material and thermal cycling.

    • @number1Schumacherfan
      @number1Schumacherfan 7 місяців тому +2

      @@chrisbradley3224 I have an N20 428 with 140k and no leaks and no issues

  • @stevecrowe8813
    @stevecrowe8813 2 роки тому +234

    Great job as usual! I was a tech for 37 years and now teach Auto Tech at the same community college I attended from 1980-1982. I teach engine repair and your adventure of flying parts is just another day during a lab. Valve keepers are the number one UFOs in the shop.
    The crank has to turn 2:1 to the cam. The reduction at the idler allows some of the reduction to be done there and the cam sprocket to be smaller. I worked at a VW dealer from 94-97. The VR-6 engine used the same tech. I read about it in a VW intro manual and VW bragged about how they were able to reduce the width of the cylinder head by 100mm (about 4 inches) so they could put the engine in smaller cars. GM also used this on the 3.4L. Chain from the crank to the idler and belt from there to the cam sprokets
    The location of the timing components is being driven by the insurance industry in Europe. In the US we have the IIHS that issues safety ratings. In Europe, they have Euro NCAP. Euro NCAP figures in pedestrian injuries as part of their ratings. The ratings are used by insurance industry to set insurance rates for vehicles. When a pedestrian is hit by a car, they often end up on the hood of the car. If there is space between the hood and engine and hood does not hit the engine as it is being crushed, the pedestrian suffers less injury. By putting the timing components in the back of the engine (with the corresponding "hump") there can be more space between the engine and hood. MB does this on their hoods. We get the hood hinges to do it here in the US, but not the pyrotechnic actuators the Euro cars have. We will soon have this tech in the US. Buried deep in the recently passed Infrastructure Bill is language that directs DOT to start the process of setting standards similar to Euro NCAP. There is a lot more of this stuff in the Bill as well
    MB came out with a 4 cylinder diesel in the 2010-2020 time frame with the chains on the back. I worked at a MB dealer from 2013-2016 and we had to have a $3500.00 engine stand because of that motor. The engine attached to a frame where the motor mounts were that connected to the engine stand. The crankshaft was 90 degrees to the axis of the stand. The engine was rotated by a geared hand that move it end over end to get to bottom and top of the engine for repairs.

    • @stigslorrydrivingcousin5754
      @stigslorrydrivingcousin5754 2 роки тому +5

      Sounds kind of sarcastic as there are not much pedestrians in US 🤣

    • @jb9652
      @jb9652 2 роки тому +23

      Wonderful! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience, and writing it up so well. 👍

    • @anthonyh958
      @anthonyh958 2 роки тому +12

      Thank you, some great info there.

    • @pmscalisi
      @pmscalisi 2 роки тому +6

      Putting timing components in the back also contributes to the coffers of the shop doing a timing chain replacement. My 3.6 GM engine in RWD configuration allows the timing chain replacement with the engine still installed. Just requires removing the accessories and the engine front cover.

    • @hillwood24
      @hillwood24 2 роки тому +3

      Thank you for sharing this info. I was not aware of much of this.

  • @trith72
    @trith72 Рік тому +25

    B58 is one of the greatest 6 cylinders ever made. Really enjoyed seeing this teardown.

    • @pauliusbu1185
      @pauliusbu1185 8 місяців тому +1

      M50 was indestructable tbh.

    • @tradegang8403
      @tradegang8403 7 місяців тому

      @@pauliusbu1185 thats because is also slow as shit. just like old merc engines, bullet proof because they were slow as shit

    • @commantrosexetlos4700
      @commantrosexetlos4700 6 місяців тому

      Wtf are you serious? The V6 in c43 is stronger ..more torque more hp..and insane sound..so does V6 f type..rb26,2jz are insane..b58 is a better city quiet engine..b58 is only tuner friendly that's it

    • @hotdog9262
      @hotdog9262 5 місяців тому +4

      @@commantrosexetlos4700 its superior to other gas 6 engines. reliable, smooth, tons of power everywhere and real economy. extremely good efficiency for a 6 cylinder

    • @commantrosexetlos4700
      @commantrosexetlos4700 5 місяців тому

      @@hotdog9262 it's one of the best engines I agree..but as tuning goes and racing..rb26 i6..best ever ..they took her 3000whp..b58 is amazing city engine..low down torque mid and top

  • @ericcindycrowder7482
    @ericcindycrowder7482 2 роки тому +358

    That “timing idler” is a speed step down pulley. Probably 1.5x speed reduction based on sprocket size. This allows the cam sprockets to be smaller than if they were driven directly off the crank. This helps with packaging and allows the cams to be closer to each other, but based on the valve angles these cams are spaced far apart from each other.

    • @jb9652
      @jb9652 2 роки тому +7

      Excellent! Thank you!

    • @Fearls1
      @Fearls1 2 роки тому +11

      Strange, it adds so much to the side of the motor. Germans and their overthinking leads to some terribly unfriendly designs. "Peak" BMW ICE motors make me yearn for our electric future.

    • @Ewok_Nz
      @Ewok_Nz 2 роки тому +65

      @@Fearls1 they use the same block for diesel engines and the fuel pump is mounted on the reverse side. Pretty clever really.

    • @wtice4632
      @wtice4632 2 роки тому +41

      @@Fearls1 electric sucks and is lame

    • @AndreSilva-tj6hh
      @AndreSilva-tj6hh 2 роки тому +2

      Thats the high pressure fuel pump

  • @stevebot
    @stevebot 2 роки тому +45

    #5 valves looked like they may have had a steam clean. Always a clue.

  • @jvw1973
    @jvw1973 2 роки тому +75

    Just drove my B58 100+ miles today…interesting to see what it actually looks like 👍🏻

    • @MJT-DA
      @MJT-DA 2 роки тому +1

      @MachineGunIt either the new supra or the bmw z4

    • @CDFurniss
      @CDFurniss 2 роки тому +4

      @MachineGunIt my X3 M40i has one too.

    • @Davidg710
      @Davidg710 2 роки тому

      Or the 2016 and up 740i

    • @jvw1973
      @jvw1973 2 роки тому +9

      I really enjoyed these replies, we have a beautiful Manhattan Green X5 and absolutely love this vehicle…

    • @petevicente9236
      @petevicente9236 2 роки тому +2

      Wife has a 22’ M440 IX drop top. Beautiful car and an awesome motor

  • @alexisdiaz4217
    @alexisdiaz4217 2 роки тому +4

    These tear down videos are so great, I find myself rewatching old ones while you upload a new one!

  • @AndrewPenner
    @AndrewPenner 2 роки тому +70

    Most of these I find extremely interesting and (oddly) relaxing. This one? The "accelerated disassembly" portions had me chuckling,, and thankful that as frustrating as it possibly was, that you weren't hurt. By the engine at least. We just won't talk about the argument with the chair

  • @mysock351C
    @mysock351C 2 роки тому +16

    I saw him taking the cam caps off first and I was thinking "hmmm... how is THAT going to work out?" Well, about as well as I expected, but that only adds to the charm and character of these videos! 😃

  • @gavinparvin9346
    @gavinparvin9346 2 роки тому +17

    For future reference , in case you want to showcase that style of valvetronic. There’s an Allen on the face of the valvetronic motor that will turn the e-shaft to full operation or no operation

  • @rayshutsa6690
    @rayshutsa6690 2 роки тому +86

    This was a cool teardown love the explosions. These autopsies on these engines keep us guessing till the issue is found. Thank you very much for another awesome video. 😀🇨🇦

    • @Digital-Dan
      @Digital-Dan 2 роки тому +1

      They're no fun when they happen on things you plan to put back together without a manual. :-(

  • @gusrubio489
    @gusrubio489 2 роки тому +5

    As someone who has also won and lost fights against furniture, walls, doors etc., I won't ask what happened. Hope you heal up fully and keep the videos coming

  • @matthewtaylor3308
    @matthewtaylor3308 2 роки тому +76

    You gotta love a camshaft that uninstalls itself. 👍

    • @clifbradley
      @clifbradley 2 роки тому +1

      Self clearing

    • @CathyInBlue
      @CathyInBlue 2 роки тому +7

      @@clifbradley Self-clearancing pistons is going up right next to mechanicly regapped spark-plugs. This channel is doing wonders for my vocabulary.

    • @matthewb8229
      @matthewb8229 2 роки тому

      I'm good with automatic uninstall camshaft. Provided I'm not driving it at the time.

  • @shire1951
    @shire1951 2 роки тому +12

    I love watching these videos, they remind me of my apprenticeship days at Roots motors. Started out stripping and cleaning the engines and transmissions ready for the mechanics to work on. Then being transferred through the departments, six months on trucks, six months on service, six months body shop. Then finally I found my place in the toolroom. Looking back they were happy days.

    • @rawevoli
      @rawevoli Рік тому +1

      Similar to me I started out doing service for six months, then alignment for six, then found my place doing body work. Only shop I ever worked at but I'm glad they did everything in one shop. I learned a lot and miss working on beautiful cars everyday but I left the industry for a business opportunity, only thing I don't miss is the bondo dust

  • @stephenshort839
    @stephenshort839 2 роки тому +1

    As a Retired Technician, I enjoy watching 👀 you tear down the motors. Trouble shooting for the failure was one thing I that fascinated me. I told my Wife what I was watching 👀, she said "WHAT?". Yes I'll keep watching. Thanks for taking the time from your work to make these videos. 😲👍

  • @snriver1089
    @snriver1089 2 роки тому +14

    Like you videos! No joke, these motors coast a fortune. My uncle’s 2013 bmw 535i hydro-locked too (he drove through a small puddle of water, nothing too big according to him..) and insurance foot the bill which was over $22k. BMW installed new engine etc…I end up buying it from him down the road 😀

    • @flaircraft
      @flaircraft 2 роки тому +4

      BMW = Broke My Wallet.

  • @Dis-Emboweled
    @Dis-Emboweled 2 роки тому +18

    We need to see the tear down of the chair that attacked you! 🤣

    • @jfan4reva
      @jfan4reva 2 роки тому +1

      I was expecting him to double up when that chain tensioner piston popped out. Looked like it might hit some easily damaged equipment....

    • @Dis-Emboweled
      @Dis-Emboweled 2 роки тому

      @@jfan4reva that's assault!

  • @bbutc
    @bbutc 2 роки тому +6

    I've binged watched a few of Eric's engine tear-down videos now, and the message that is coming across is: Don't deffer maintenance and change your engine oil in accordance with the manufactures recommendations! - If you don't follow these simple rules YOUR engine could end up in his workshop.

  • @Jim007baker
    @Jim007baker 2 роки тому +2

    Great job in diagnosing that disaster, I never would have guessed that was what happened to that engine

  • @kwakas4ever
    @kwakas4ever 2 роки тому +3

    Well, that one was action packed!! Between a malevolent chair and and a Beemer motor throwing bits about, you've taken a beating this week. Cant wait for next week already.....👍👍 Seriously, excellent vid. Love ya work.

  • @stevewesley8187
    @stevewesley8187 2 роки тому +42

    Just imagine the fun putting one of these back together !

    • @BSed31
      @BSed31 2 роки тому +5

      I own one so I'm really hoping that's not in my future 😂

    • @MattExzy
      @MattExzy 2 роки тому +2

      Bicycle time.

    • @fabioribeiro1009
      @fabioribeiro1009 2 роки тому

      @@BSed31 Keep it as it is and you will be fine 😉

  • @jeffterrell3325
    @jeffterrell3325 2 роки тому

    The slow mo is fantastic. Really laughed on this on! Thanks. Great video!!

  • @MrReniks
    @MrReniks 2 роки тому +1

    so grateful i found your chanel,as i 'm an engine guy your videos are so satisfying.

  • @KingdomAuto
    @KingdomAuto 2 роки тому +36

    Good to know that you were pleased with this engine overall, I was really interested in this one because the B58 seems to be a much more reliable powerplant from BMW, compared to years past, but it was great to see a teardown like this. Thanks for the upload!

    • @fregyt
      @fregyt Рік тому +4

      BMW has rewllly really taken away the criticism from n54 and n55 to heart

  • @dawsonklump4636
    @dawsonklump4636 2 роки тому +44

    I'm a bmw tech and I have seen a few of these engine self destruct like this due to sucking up water.
    Also, I'm pretty sure the extra timing chain in the back of the engine is for either a vacuum pump or a high pressure fuel pump on diesels. These blocks are based off the B series diesels which proceeded it.

    • @igotaction
      @igotaction 2 роки тому +4

      HPFP on M57, which this exact design was based on just in the front. I am rebuilding a M57 now. M57 much easier as far as the head is concerned, solid gears on the cams and no valvetronic.

    • @traelz
      @traelz 2 роки тому +4

      @@igotaction this is a very different block then a M57 my man, in fact there is very little in common

    • @snerby141989
      @snerby141989 2 роки тому +13

      I'd wager water ingestion, also. The only B58 I've seen with catastrophic bottom end damage was due to water. The shape of the manifold, the trajectory of intake air flow and the fact that there's no air-to-air intercooler low down on the front of the engine for the water to pool makes it all get pulled right into #6.

    • @aimless-drifter
      @aimless-drifter 2 роки тому

      ooo really? I was going to guess the water came from intercooler (water to air) that leaked into an intake.

    • @snerby141989
      @snerby141989 2 роки тому +1

      @@aimless-drifter it would have had to been sudden, catastrophic failure of that intercooler for that volume of coolant to cause that level of damage. Also (depending on where the leak and the intercooler would have sprung) it wouldn't necessarily affect #6 primarily followed by #5, as would be logically explained by an incoming mass of water up the charge pipe.

  • @skid_Demon
    @skid_Demon 2 роки тому +1

    Love the little 'bloop' as the tensioner piston went visiting

  • @MultiMightyQuinn
    @MultiMightyQuinn 2 роки тому +1

    The engine wanted to make you work for it! Fun teardown, thanks for sharing!

  • @domkraggp9944
    @domkraggp9944 2 роки тому +12

    By the way , the red stuff on the upper conrod bearing is a wear resistant coat meant to make them withstand the oil starvation that can be caused by repeated use of the stop start system.Also interesting is that they moved away from the bedplate design

    • @mvfc7637
      @mvfc7637 2 роки тому +7

      I’ve always wondered if the stop-start system you see on new cars was detrimental to the engine, now I know it can be and how they’re engineered to mitigats any problems with the motor.

  • @Joao.Carlos.R.Carnoto7895
    @Joao.Carlos.R.Carnoto7895 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the info. Nice to watch a teardown of a B58 like the one in my car

  • @josephmangarella6550
    @josephmangarella6550 Рік тому

    Eric I just watched this video for the first time. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do more engines you haven't worked on before, this was hysterical!

  • @seeyawouldntwannabeya347
    @seeyawouldntwannabeya347 Рік тому +1

    As an owner of a B58 engine in my G30 BMW this was very interesting. Keep up the good work.

  • @FerralVideo
    @FerralVideo 2 роки тому +35

    I haven't watched the video yet, but I wanted to thank you for these teardowns. They provoked me into checking on my own car.
    I was low on oil and overdue for a change, so I took care of both just yesterday.

    • @thegreatcanadianlumberjack5307
      @thegreatcanadianlumberjack5307 2 роки тому +6

      Rule #1 of car ownership (For those who have internal combustion engines) Always stay on top of your Oil changes and that is a indicator your car burns oil so keep an eye on how much it's burning if it's burning more than a quart (A small bottle of Engine oil) between your oil changes then your could have an issue with your seals or Gaskets. Every 3 months change your oil or if your drive alot general Rule of thumb is every 5000 kms (or 3000 Miles roughly) You can go a bit longer with Synthetic oil.

    • @FerralVideo
      @FerralVideo 2 роки тому +3

      @@thegreatcanadianlumberjack5307 Yeah... I had a completely missed oil change (naughty I know!) and was just under minimum, so about a quart down. Seems pretty average burn rate for a car of its age and mileage, though I'll watch it more closely to make sure I don't have a problem. And more importantly, actually change my darn oil on time!
      I drive so little that 5k (hybrid car, so engine has reduced load, manufacturer recommends 5k instead of 3k) goes by in a year's span or so.

    • @spicysnowman8886
      @spicysnowman8886 Рік тому

      If you have a bmw you can check the oil level in the car in 5 seconds.

  • @hahaha12345678993
    @hahaha12345678993 2 роки тому +3

    i remember on papadakis racing channel he had some kind of problem also with the valve train when he was trying to take them off, i'll have to go rewatch that episode

  • @driversl
    @driversl 2 роки тому

    Love the forensic analysis aspect of this channel

  • @chez8239
    @chez8239 Рік тому

    man the result at the end cant be anymore satisfying haha great job and thank you for putting out a video explaining what causes this kind of issues well done 👍

  • @Mark-th1gn
    @Mark-th1gn 2 роки тому +22

    Valvetronic is extra difficult to take apart. The springs can be really dangerous as you've seen. I once had a spring unleash its tension on my thumb, it survived but it was not nice. If you want to work on valvetronic engines that should run after working on them really do get the proper tools.

    • @Rockardo_
      @Rockardo_ 6 місяців тому

      Holy fuck I could not imagine how bad that hurt, Im a BMW and im always nervous when im working on the valvetronic springs.

  • @Driver0378
    @Driver0378 2 роки тому +6

    Always enjoy your tear downs! This block could see life as a cool coffee table. It even has extra holes you could do some cool lighting with. 😜

    • @corsacaleb
      @corsacaleb 2 роки тому

      doing this exact thing with this exact block lol its perfect

    • @Driver0378
      @Driver0378 2 роки тому

      @@corsacaleb Awesome! Hope it turns out well!

  • @yungkaos3500
    @yungkaos3500 6 місяців тому +1

    this was very interesting to watch, I enjoyed this. Thanks for the content!

  • @purplepurplesaurasne
    @purplepurplesaurasne Місяць тому

    These are great, the BMW inline 6 teardowns really show the generational difference between the N55 and B58. Thanks!

  • @joshfps8546
    @joshfps8546 Рік тому +4

    Nice teardown and analysis. I own a M240i B58 myself and i love it. Best and most reliable engine ive ever owned.

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 Рік тому +1

      Which isn't saying much

    • @jasonwan163
      @jasonwan163 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@fzr1000 well its reliable enough for toyota to put it in their supra..... says enough for me

  • @jase9951
    @jase9951 2 роки тому +4

    I think if you remove the Valvetronic motor from the side of the head, it will relieve the tension from those springs. On the N52/54/55 there is an allen head on the back of the Valvetronic motor you turn to release the tension before removal.

  • @rickestabrook4987
    @rickestabrook4987 2 роки тому

    Love your videos. Informative, always giving useful preventative advice. And you are well spoken, sir. A Pleasure.

  • @RGB06084
    @RGB06084 2 роки тому

    This is the funniest of all the channels I've subscribed to! Parts flying is fun!

  • @johnkidd2176
    @johnkidd2176 2 роки тому +13

    That was entertaining watching parts fly off the engine! 😂

  • @Cynsham
    @Cynsham 2 роки тому +65

    Super cool teardown man, I love your sense of humor and i'm pretty sure I might have watched every single engine teardown you've done, keep it up man love the channel
    Edit: I died laughing at those self removing camshafts

  • @chuckmyhervold2540
    @chuckmyhervold2540 2 роки тому +1

    I ve seen the affects of hydro locking years ago on a Dodge v6 that a mechanic friend was working on in his shop. Seems as though a mutual friends daughter drove through standing water after a flash flood with the family Caravan. I couldn’t believe how one of the con rods was twisted and snapped two like playdough! So it was no surprise when you discovered that number five con rod was probably damaged by ingesting water.
    Love the video, and also glad to hear it was operator error, not a design flaw.
    As a BMW fan I was relieved, because I would love to have a Bimmer with this motor!

  • @trevenbrewer5044
    @trevenbrewer5044 2 роки тому

    Excellent video. One of the best. Keep up the amazing work!

  • @kamanah1800
    @kamanah1800 2 роки тому +17

    This is more of an Exorcism of an Engine than an a teardown. Parts popping off is like demons leaving the unit. Awesome content, this is however crazy lol.

  • @johnw3379
    @johnw3379 2 роки тому +6

    I love your teardown videos! Please keep up the great content!

  • @andysteele8267
    @andysteele8267 2 роки тому

    I really enjoy your videos, I get a kick out of all of the destruction. I don't know much about engines but I do know that there is a Mahle aluminum casting plant in Morristown TN. I did some work there many years ago. Keep up the great videos

  • @Martyz-TV
    @Martyz-TV 2 роки тому +2

    Kudos for showing the spring mistakes. I don't think I could have left those in the video. That says more about you than me 😍🤩😄

  • @wirelesspirat
    @wirelesspirat 2 роки тому +10

    The B58 is possibly one of the best 6 cylinder engines on the market today. Even with stock parts 500 - 600 hp is possible without problems with larger turbos and software optimizations.

    • @hellkitty1014
      @hellkitty1014 2 роки тому

      Definitely Top 5 in the B58 C/D version. The Alfa 2.9 is up there, as is the Porsche 2.9.

  • @sirfartsalot1328
    @sirfartsalot1328 2 роки тому +4

    Man, I wish more manufacturers made inline 6s.

  • @Intersept
    @Intersept Рік тому +1

    Classic BMW. Reliable, not overpriced. 11/10 will be. I enjoy.

  • @bryans2790
    @bryans2790 Рік тому +2

    Thank you. Good to know this failure was caused by human error and not poor engineering

  • @mattt198654321
    @mattt198654321 2 роки тому +95

    I was really surprised how small those cylinder bores were in comparison to the block. Really thick block walls. I bet that thing is made to handle a lot of boost. Too bad it didn't help this time.

    • @aero5937
      @aero5937 2 роки тому +6

      Yeap, probably was the tune.

    • @bulkhogan5
      @bulkhogan5 2 роки тому +9

      @@aero5937 B58s are quite stout

    • @vexed_con
      @vexed_con 2 роки тому +23

      I think papdakis racing is making over 1000hp on a stock block b58. Twas a pretty porky block the b58 got

    • @humphrey09applebee61
      @humphrey09applebee61 2 роки тому +3

      The walls between the cylinders are rather small though. Stuff breaks were it is thinnest.

    • @JonOlaivar
      @JonOlaivar 2 роки тому

      @@humphrey09applebee61 Still seems to hold up well though! It's a pretty impressive platform, especially considering this isn't even the top spec motor for this generation.

  • @marsarmory6236
    @marsarmory6236 Рік тому +8

    Thanks for this video on the b58, I think it’s the best bmw engine to come out in a long time, it looks to be built like a tank. A guy locally is running one tuned to 500+ hp and has methane injection and some bolt ons, he has had zero issues in the last two years/45k

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 Рік тому

      S58 is a far superior engine, do the research

    • @redarmy1778
      @redarmy1778 Рік тому

      s58 sounds like a turd

    • @universalg_
      @universalg_ 9 місяців тому

      @@fzr1000981which is based on the b58

    • @Hayden.STI.8
      @Hayden.STI.8 5 місяців тому

      @@fzr1000981it is not a far superior engine they both are really solid motors. S58 is just a little better but that’s because it was made to handle more power than the b58 from factory. It should be better at handling power than the b58. It’s superior because of its purpose over the b58.

  • @donthewellguy
    @donthewellguy 2 роки тому +1

    That’s awesome! These videos are very educational and well done…
    Thanks

  • @alexdell-spector9015
    @alexdell-spector9015 2 роки тому +2

    The B series BMW engines are modular, the petrols and diesels share many components including blocks, timing gear etc. That “idler pulley” is where the chain driven high pressure pump is mounted on the diesels.

  • @gtpanoz
    @gtpanoz 2 роки тому +5

    The chair hired this engine to work your nose over again. 🤣
    I can see this video quickly jump up in views since this is the current Supra's engine.

  • @prayformojo1117
    @prayformojo1117 2 роки тому +136

    This was a good one. These engines are stout and make 500hp with E85 and the newer TU HPFP. That coating they have on the bearings looks really good, might not have rod bearing issues like you occasionally see on the N55s.

    • @BmwMe-uh9sy
      @BmwMe-uh9sy 2 роки тому +4

      ye idk why n55e had that issue i dont see it much on the n54, considering they use the same bearings

    • @ahshitherewegoagain6361
      @ahshitherewegoagain6361 2 роки тому +2

      @@BmwMe-uh9sy I guess it's the cranks fault

    • @joelrolo1915
      @joelrolo1915 2 роки тому

      The n5t is the engine from the m5 e6p right

    • @BmwMe-uh9sy
      @BmwMe-uh9sy 2 роки тому

      @@joelrolo1915 no

    • @joelrolo1915
      @joelrolo1915 2 роки тому

      @@BmwMe-uh9sy n55* ?

  • @davidtappe5337
    @davidtappe5337 2 роки тому +1

    Brother I lmao the couch when the unplanned cam bounced out. Good shit.

  • @DjNikGnashers
    @DjNikGnashers 2 роки тому +2

    Interesting video thank you.
    The only other B58 I have seen go the same way, was the green M140i 'HULK' car which was a stage 2 trackday toy. The owner had the standard sump and got oil starvation which resulted in exactly the same piston / con rod coming through the block.

  • @GodKing804
    @GodKing804 2 роки тому +4

    Finally. I'm running so much boost on mine

  • @carlospastran3527
    @carlospastran3527 2 роки тому +5

    The first explosion would definitely make me wear safety glasses before continuing...

  • @gnryushi
    @gnryushi Рік тому

    This was very satisfying. Especially the analysis at the end. I did not know hydrolock on a cylinder was a thing.

  • @JayBearjaysbigadventure
    @JayBearjaysbigadventure 2 роки тому +1

    Why, WHY is this channel so freaking satisfying to watch?!? I just love it. The BMW content is probably not up most people's alley, but that's what my channel is about, both cars and motorcycles. If you ever get a chance to tear down a BMW K1600, I'd love to be there to watch, lol. I'll even help you clean up the leftover pizza and beer. HA! leftover pizza and beer. Yah, not gonna need to clean up THAT... :)

  • @losertown2785
    @losertown2785 7 місяців тому +10

    Little tip for getting to the head bolts without taking the valvetronic apart, if you use a wrench to turn the cam you can sometimes get to the head bolts without removing the cam, did it on a b58 a couple months ago because I didn’t wanna take the valvetronic apart and it wasn’t too bad. hope that helps for next time 😁

  • @igotaction
    @igotaction 2 роки тому +20

    That timing chain design including the crank pulley/vibration dampener is identical to the M57 3.0 diesel. N54/55 have cartridge rail for the chain. This is much easier to time and avoids the old crank hub slippage. Where the idler pulley is on B58 is where the diesel HPFP is located.

    • @LSmiata
      @LSmiata 2 роки тому +2

      very interesting. But why would BMW add the chain on a gas engine? Seems like extra parts not needed for an inherently balanced engine. Also adds costs and rotating mass.
      Curious.
      Mr. P

    • @machtschnell7452
      @machtschnell7452 2 роки тому

      HPFP = High Pressure Fuel Pump

    • @LSmiata
      @LSmiata 2 роки тому +2

      @@machtschnell7452
      Hello Macht Schnell,
      For Gasoline engines, is the HPFP not driven off the exhaust cam between cyl 5 and 6?
      I am not familiar with the B58, but do see what looks like a mount for the HPFP pump.

    • @jannehokkanen8175
      @jannehokkanen8175 2 роки тому +2

      @@LSmiata In BMW's new engine family, the crankcase is identical to the B57 diesel version, engineered as both a gasoline and diesel engine in one common part...kvg

    • @LSmiata
      @LSmiata 2 роки тому +1

      @@jannehokkanen8175
      What is kvg?
      High Pressure Fuel Pump not located between Cly-5 and Cly-6 and driven off the exhaust cam? Do not understand your post other than....yes Diesel and "gas" engines share same architecture. Oldsmobile did that in the 80's....did not work out so well. Diesel pressures vs gas very different.

  • @TKsGarage
    @TKsGarage 2 роки тому +1

    Learned a lot about my engine in my bmw. Awesome info. Thanks

  • @cschleiger1991
    @cschleiger1991 2 роки тому

    6:25 Taking that cam off "BMW explosion says it all" lmbo!!! Great vid man

  • @oldtanker4860
    @oldtanker4860 2 роки тому +3

    Self removing camshaft, COOL. A little JB weld and you can put the piston back together.

  • @TheAfterPein
    @TheAfterPein 2 роки тому +27

    The hydrolock explains it well. I'm surprised it ruined the crankshaft, as Papadakis and Aasbo use a stock one in their FD Supra engine, pushing over 1k whp if I'm not mistaken. After seeing the block take the brunt of that incident and not destroy everything, I'm further sold on that platform.

    • @231mac
      @231mac 2 роки тому +14

      The hydro locking didn't break the counterbalancer; the rod/piston getting wedged between the counterbalancer and the main did that.

  • @RA-1965
    @RA-1965 7 місяців тому +1

    Just come across this channel - now binge watching! I've seen similar damage due to LSPI (low speed pre-ignition) issues on a high performance engine variant that I was the chief engineer of back in the day. Lack of evidence of water ingress in other parts of the engine leads me to suspect this could be the causal factor.

  • @I_am_Monty
    @I_am_Monty 2 роки тому

    Great job on determining the issue 👏

  • @connorshaw7203
    @connorshaw7203 2 роки тому +3

    Love the videos, it would be cool to see you do an Infiniti 2.0 turbo variable compression engine. It's a bit newer so I imagine it'll be awhile

    • @destruxandexploze2552
      @destruxandexploze2552 Рік тому +1

      It’s in the Altima with a CVT so all he needs is one from a car with a blown trans (very common) so I’m sure it’ll be soon.

  • @dowen1511
    @dowen1511 2 роки тому +14

    Actually it's kinda fun watching the parts blow off 😂

  • @StoneyRice
    @StoneyRice 2 роки тому +1

    On a binge of your videos and love the new lingo I am learning. Piston McNuggets and engine gravel are new favorite phrases. One idea for the waiting room. Start collecting the engine gravel and fill an old oil pan. Viola, engine gravel zen garden.

  • @katzicael
    @katzicael 2 роки тому +1

    The cam chain tensioner firing off into the distance barely missing you and your gentleman's area was hilarious.

    • @Fix_It_Again_Tony
      @Fix_It_Again_Tony 2 роки тому

      The plunger made a hilarious sound in the slow motion clip.

  • @cheemomugdoo799
    @cheemomugdoo799 2 роки тому +3

    FYI, Inline 6 engines don't require a balance shaft due to their almost perfect balance of primary and secondary forces.

  • @clgce2607
    @clgce2607 2 роки тому +6

    Hi I have a question, I looked up the engine for sale and found it for sell new/used in the 5k-8k range si I was wondering where did you find that it retailed for "over 21 grand" (21:33), but great video overall, super interesting to see these being directed for science!

  • @jtjones4727
    @jtjones4727 2 роки тому

    Sorry to hear you hurt yourself. Hope you get feeling better, I know your a trooper and would put out the videos anyway.

  • @nopenope5812
    @nopenope5812 2 роки тому

    These vids are so soothing to watch

  • @babaganoosh555
    @babaganoosh555 2 роки тому +3

    That explosion #3 was almost crown jewels height

  • @justsumguy2u
    @justsumguy2u 2 роки тому +3

    That engine was angry, it kept assaulting you with flying parts lol

  • @dianea3324
    @dianea3324 2 роки тому

    This was a super great tear down to watch.

  • @autoSRI
    @autoSRI 2 роки тому

    I was watching you tear it to bits and thought those big springs look pretty strong and a few seconds later you confirmed they are pretty strong

  • @skildude
    @skildude 2 роки тому +9

    Gotta love the DIY nose job you performed. Just asking for a friend, was this a wheeled of non-wheeled chair

  • @hyper8545
    @hyper8545 2 роки тому +12

    This b58 must have had a spicy tune to throw a piston like that.

    • @igotaction
      @igotaction 2 роки тому +1

      I said same, that thing ran lean and last cylinder on the rail ate it. If it sucked up floodwater there would be corrosion.

    • @traelz
      @traelz 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, water in the intake tune

    • @danked6731
      @danked6731 2 роки тому +7

      Bootmod3 strikes again lol

    • @Dunkaroos248
      @Dunkaroos248 2 роки тому +2

      With a bad tune I think you’d see the piston only explode, not a bent rod like it had on #5. I’m siding with Eric on this one.

    • @madeofscars9355
      @madeofscars9355 2 роки тому +1

      @@Dunkaroos248 a severe over boost resulting in lean conditions and detonation will bend rods like wet paper straw's.
      I pulled a motor down from a ford falcon xr6 turbo that the owner accidentally put the boost controller lines for the waste gate on back the front and it hit well over 30 psi (full throttle and he realized something wasn't right he immediately let off and as he looked over at the gauge it was just coming back past 30 psi) it almost folded no2 rod in half the piston underwent a weight reduction via the cranks counter weights and bent the rods in cyl 5 and cyl 3 were slightly bent. Sometimes a simple accident or mechanical failure can result in spectacular damage.

  • @samsonchan1488
    @samsonchan1488 2 роки тому

    Great mystery! Look forward to the next episode.

  • @The_Truth777
    @The_Truth777 Місяць тому

    Tip, when you don't have the tool to remove the ecenteic shaft, a cheap make-shift tool is to slit a screw driver in the middle with a grinder. Slit size should be equal to the spring arm size. You can then use the screw driver to push each arm out off tension. That'll allow you to remove the shift without an explosion 😊

  • @adotintheshark4848
    @adotintheshark4848 2 роки тому +7

    That "mystery" chain is the lower timing chain. It is driven from the crankshaft and drives an intermediate sprocket, which in turn drives the upper timing chain.

  • @lizkrinsky5209
    @lizkrinsky5209 2 роки тому +4

    Ha!!! Reminds me of an incident a few years ago when I was living on the Delmar Loop. I was walking home from the little farmers market on a cold and very wet early afternoon when this douche nozzle comes speeding up Skinker in one of those BMWs and he purposefully pulled over to hit this huge icy puddle blowing water all over me, down the inside of my coat, soaking me and laughing his ass off until his car came screaming to a stop on the other side of Delmar with a noisy hydro lock. And there he sat as I walked by laughing my ass off. major CARma.

  • @BANACANADIAN
    @BANACANADIAN 2 роки тому

    Always satisfying looking this motor be torn down apart always looking forward to your videos

  • @llllbserkllll
    @llllbserkllll Рік тому

    I'm not much into cars, but this channel is quite entertaining.