Hey Everyone! Sorry the video was a little later than usual, I was making some last minute changes. Also, for those of you who use the subtitles, it will take a bit of time for them to be ready given the last minute upload. Thank you for your patience. I Hope you all enjoy the analysis, I had to cut down a lot of what I filmed because it was getting very long so you might notice i skipped over a few things we've talked about a lot in other videos (like one-sided shoulder shrugs and mouth shrugs) but I am very happy with the things I did cover on this, I think there was a lot of great subtleties to the words he was choosing. Enjoy 🤗!
I was anxious to watch this so I just put on my headphones lol Also, I'd love to see your thoughts on Kenan's interview. I feel he was genuine about his feelings.
I am hearing impaired and had to wait for the closed captions but it’s ok! It was worth it. Great analysis of this interview. I didn’t feel Dan Schneider was genuine at all really. How easy it is to say now, 20-25 years later, that had someone said something you would’ve cut this or that out 😐 what matters is what you said and did THEN and that you were not approachable and people were afraid to say they were uncomfortable. Thank you again Spidey for another fantastic video! I always learn so much
At that Time he was the boss and they were Just actors tryng to make a career...im hoping Someone Will do something about this because an individual like him should not be around
Exactly, Dirty Dan will never feel sorry or remorseful for that matter, he's just hopeful that people will feel sorry for him and play the "I did a lot of bad stuff back in the day, but now I'm the victim here because people are being mean to me for all the horrible stuff I did" card
Dan’s behavior with children and adult women is disgusting. He’s sorry because he was called out . He should name names with his apologies, instead of blanket apologies.
Yeah but these people did the things lol. She was like ok ill bend over the table and do whatever act you want lmao. Only reason she is shy is cause it's brought up now and she don't want ppl to know what she did to make some money and get famous lmao. Sad world. But if someone tell you over and over to commit a murder or do cocaine like you can't just blame them for it that's why it's called peer pressure. Maybe they should have said no way and left. Lmao. Why take the money and the reputation with nickelodeon and then complain about it? Lmao. Alot of the stuff spoke about is funny kids TV. You just have a bunch of pervert adults that are looking back now. Like if they didn't have dirty thoughts then it wouldn't be seen so bad just like when it was first aired. There may have been bad things behind the scenes but some isn't all that bad that was brought up. Obviously some stuff that happened can't ever be made right but alot of the stuff is just pervert adults watching xxx movies everyday watching a kid show after xxx like wth makes no sense
Reminds me of a narcissistic friend. She had "many friends", yet couldn't deal with humans, no empathy, couldn't behave properly, didn't care about boundaries to name a few. I was a very quiet person, didn't talk much, closed off. When I went abroad for 1 year, I dealt with many different other foreign students and locals, learned a lot how to behave and treat different ppl, got open-minded etc. It's just a red flag for me, if someone isn't changing for the "better". They don't question their behavior, that's why a change is not needed for them
Ryan Reynolds has said that he doesn't want his children to be child actors like he was. When the talk show host asked why he said he "[doesn't] approve of child abuse."
When Dan said that a therapist should be on set to talk to the kids about if they really want to be famous, it sounded like his presupposition was that if kids want to be famous, they will have to encounter what was happening on set. And if they can’t handle that, they need to choose not to be famous. I don’t think Dan meant to let that out in his response but I think he slipped up and said it.
To be a “successful” writer, which I have no knowledge of as I never watched those kids shows or the documentary, he seems to be oblivious to how his words sound like in this interview.
Yeah I caught that too! I was wondering if I was reading too much into that, but I’m sure that’s exactly what he meant, like “well they should know what they’re getting into, and if they don’t like it then don’t 🤷♀️ “ type vibe , as if the issue wasn’t all the abusive the predators , but the children not understanding what they’re getting into🤮
I had to pause the video to address the line of adult jokes in kid movies. What stood out to me instantly using Ratatouille as the example is that the characters are adults. When I’m watching a kids movie and the adult characters make a reference or joke, it’s funny and relatable because you’re seeing the adult character doing/thinking like adults. It is ALWAYS awkward and inappropriate when a child is the one saying or referencing an adult comment/situation. It doesn’t match in our minds and I think that’s what creates that discomfort.
Yes in Shrek the comments that Shrek make are great inuendo and are done in such a way that an adult can still come up with a kid friendly explanation for what it was they were laughing at and most of the time it was Shrek saying them. Agree that it is very different hearing an adult saying inuendo than a child.
I can’t stand any writing that when spoken by the child actor, doesn’t ring true, isn’t what a kid that age would say. It’s probably why I don’t enjoy “family” sitcoms.
I've been at friends houses while their kid is watching a cartoon and the characters make adult-ish jokes that kids don't understand. The kids just keep watching and don't pick up on the fact it was a joke, they just absorb it as normal dialog. I've looked at the kids to see if their facial gestures indicate that they get the joke, but are pretending that they don't. The jokes harmlessly fly over their heads and entertain the adults who are stuck watching the show.
I love how in this entire interview, harassment and almost criminal behaviour is minimized to "I wasn't always the nicest guy." Nobody's expecting a producer, writer, director or creator to be the second coming. They expect that he or she will act like a professional and focus on the job in accordance with the law and company policy. You don't have to be a "nice guy" to not harass someone. These aren't your friends. They're co-workers and employees. You don't have to start chatting about your private lives. Just use common sense. "I was immature." That's not immaturity. That's harassment.
Did u really expect a TV producer have morals and be professional? Do u also think politicians are honest people and never lie? Of course this guy is 💯 guilty, but does anyone really think leaving there young children alone with TV producers is a wise move? Would you go to Brooklyn at 3AM and walk down a dark alley?
@@michael-4k4000Are you actually excusing this behavior as “that’s just how Hollywood is, so it’s ok.”? Naw, bro. We as a society aren’t accepting that anymore. It’s over.
@Accountdeactivated80085 First of all if u use a quotation you might want to say who it's from as that's not what I said in anyway shape or form. That behavior is obviously wrong and should be persecuted if true, and it seems true. What I'm saying is the parents should have been more diligent about protecting the child. The child should never ever be left alone without the parent or guardian.
@@johnnystein67can someone explain for me the potato scene? i just don't get it and I've seen the clip. is it supposed to be a dick? i don't think a potato looks like a dick personally. maybe it's why I'm confused.
The scene is not about the potato. It's about the juicing. But moreso than that, its about catching these young actors in a glimpse of humiliation or desperation that is similar to adult film. It's not a common look for children so it is the selling point. In order to achieve that they have to be pushed to that emotion or have to be able to tap into it from experience. Watching these shows as a child made me sad because I understood that.
I’m sorry but you cannot convince me that any of the shots they showed of Ariana Grande were “made for a kid audience because kids find them funny.” I was a kid at that time and I did not find them funny. I found them to be very uncomfortable.
I completely agree. I remember watching it as a kid and I was very confused and uncomfortable. I didn't get it and just waited for the next scene in the show.
The moment his voice breaks, just before a fake cry, my immidiate thought was "oh boy, here we go (eye roll)". You can litterally count 3... 2...1.... Scene. That "emotion" came and went as if it never was there. And you are right Spidey - Mr. Bell's emotions in the docu-series were so heart breaking that you can't help but cry with him too.
I started to tear up at that part of the interview, not because of Dan and his fake cry, but just thinking back to the original documentary and all the terrible things that happened to Drake. If Dan really cared that much I doubt the emotion would have been that quick. Also, why was it necessary to mention that he helped write what Drake's mom said in court? So now you are a hero?
I noticed "I snapped at people, I got snarky" was also a deflection: Nobody cares if he snapped at people, though acting that way around children is a separate issue. It's the sexual harassment and covering for pedophiles we're worried about.
What is 1 of the main themes we lately hear so much about since Jeffrey E's story. Not only in the US but also here in Europe. It seems a big thing everywhere. What about the transmovement so highly promoted even by presidents and the pope. Is it an agenda. What about the explicit sexual education of our children. It is interesting to look up what the who and UNICEF write in their rights for children. It seems as if they are preparing society for the P-word: children have to have the rights parents won't grant them at such a young age, so the laws will give them what they "want and deserve"...
@@bonsense7004 Speaking of deflections, what about trans people? They're irrelevant to this. (And pretty much when I was a kid, sex ed was "penis goes in vagina, nine months later baby". That's how explicit it is today, for that matter.) Also, the Convention on the Rights of the Child explicitly includes the right to be free from sexual exploitation. But can't spell Don Quixote without Q. No, this was rich people exploiting their money and power to exploit the most vulnerable. Now, what about a certain former US president who used to peek in on Miss Teen USA contestants changing? And was friends with Epstein, hmm? Hmm? Hmm? I'm just Saiyan...
YOU ARE RIGHT!!!! I met Dan at 10 (and his producing partner who very markedly creeped me out..at TEN YEARS OLD) What ppl are saying about him is true. Those inappropriate kids scenes were inside jokes amongst grown men with a Frat boy mentality serving their egos rather than protecting the fragile self worth and safety of children. He should be ashamed of himself (and he isn’t...)
You met him what in a meet and greet? Did you sit there for like 10 years and get to know him? I'm so confused on because you met him that means you know every single ounce about the guy LOL not defending the guy but just saying how does that make your comment credible and solidify everything? Because a lot of these employees coming forward could have came out 5 years ago or even 8 years ago or 10 years ago and nothing would have been different but why did they wait until now and there's no excuse to say well the documentary did this and exposed all of this one there have been UA-cam documentaries out for how many years? Just saying
@@SAMEntalhealthI think you forget how powerful the American entertainment industry is and how much people of all wealth classes fear losing their way of keeping bills paid along with the fact that many of the child stars probably suppressed that shit deep down and tried to move past it probably feeling shame or like it was their fault for some reason like most SA victims do. It’s not a hard question to answer for yourself if you use your head.
When you said "what? do you want a cookie?' The frustration was next level. That was so loud because you are always so calm in your videos. Thank you for your humanity in the ways you review these things
Thank you for not adding the inappropriate footage of those children from the original shows. I also found it incredibly distasteful and exploitative that they re-aired those clips. Class act on your part.
Regarding what “adult jokes” are appropriate for kids and not: An animated cartoon with a very subtle innuendo is completely different than a child acting out an inappropriate gesture. The visual nature of it is the main problem. There is dialog that is just blatantly sexual, not a subtle winkwink, that is just straight up grooming.
@@gabolujan3109 Why do you want to see them? That's not something you should want to see. It's disgusting, disturbing and clearly indicates sexual intentions.
This is the reaction video I've been waiting for. Congratulations on 1 million subscribers by the way....been here since before Johnny Depp trial and I've loved watching you grow.
As someone who is healing from narcissistic relationships... this scumbag pisses me off. It's all so obvious when you’ve been through it (and have healed enough to recognize it). He is a TEXTBOOK example of a narcissistic sociopath. He doesn't take true ownership or accountability for a single thing and shows absolutely no remorse. He has learned how to dance around the issues and pass the blame. Dan has deeply damaged so many peoples lives... if he truly understood even half of the trauma he has caused- he would need years of therapy and healing to process it all.
He believes a therapist should be on set to help the child deal with bad adult behavior, because clearly it's the child that has the problem. He still does not believe he has a problem. I feel sad for this man.
He's a real predator getting Amanda Bynes pregnant at 13 while she lived with him &wife. She can't speak on it bc he paid her to sign a hush hush contract. The same with Jaime Lynn Spears.
And her story was of her back in school as a kid(& he wanted her to tell her childhood story as if she's being sodo mized while telling it) that is definitely predator behavior trying to get her to role play that so he could picture it.
My question is why are people believing these people and there were so many other employees that are not involved with this just a handful or even a few, what makes what they are claiming factual because it's going with the narrative or because there's evidence of anything? Boogie doesn't bring these things up and Dan doesn't even know about half the conspiracy theories about him that are out there but I am very curious as to why people don't look at both sides of the coin and make people like Brian Peck or Jason handy to be a side dish compared to Dan Schneider when these people have legitimate convictions against them for things that they did do and there's evidence of, just saying not say Dan is Innocent by all means because I see both sides of the coin he could also be everything people are saying but there's also a great chance that people that for instance are these employees, like adult employees back then, have been released from the business or quit for so long why didn't they just say something back then and I don't mean back then as in like 1996 back then I mean like 2010 and 2008 they didn't have anything to lose but everything to gain but now all of a sudden they come out yet there's a bunch of other employees I'm sure that have been involved that are not saying anything and people will immediately think they were probably in on all of the madness and don't want to expose themselves and I'll just sit there and say or they don't even realize that there's so much conspiracy going on that they don't participate also it's kind of screwed up that people that say they didn't have the same experiences others are called Schneider supporters or this or that when they're not denoting other people's experiences they are just saying they didn't experience the same thing that's another thing that is a little bizarre about the Public's Mass opinion
Yep Spidey you are right on the money. In the Doc when Drakes dad started crying, it broke me. I could feel his grief through the screen. When Dan pulled a sad face/voice crack I literally blurted out "what are you doing?" 😂 Also the fact Dan felt the need to reiterate that Drake acknowledged him positively just rubbed me wrong :/
The way he pretended to cry about helping Drake Bell's mother tells me all I need to know about this man. He's a full on manipulator that doesn't feel bad for anything he's done. I think he's actually pissed off that these people had the temerity to call him out. This has been a known thing for years. I first heard about it over 5 years ago from a UA-cam video. Yet Schneider waited until this big production to address it because he thought it would just fly under the radar. Some of the scenes I've seen look exactly like they were written by a child predator for other child predators and a softball interview that seems almost scripted isn't going to convince me otherwise. This dude has a ton of darkness in him and he spread that darkness around and traumatized too many people. The really sad part is that he's not the first, he won't be the last and it seems that those who mistreat others are the ones who truly thrive in Hollywood.
Those kids desperately wanted to be on television. That wasn’t the issue! It was the sexual behavior on and off screen that was the problem! AND HE KNOWS THAT!
You ever notice that men who abuse people like this are never apologetic until they’re publicly outed and shamed? That alone tells you the apology is insincere and meaningless
Great vid! The innuendo in ratatouille is not only for adults. It’s also acted out by adults. While Schneider’s inappropriate innuendos and acts are acted out by kids. Which in consequence, sexualizes them. That’s another line.
it's kinda double cause drake said he had big support from dan and didn't have anything negative towards him so there is nothing to apologize for in that situation. On the other side, this interview is extremely forced and scripted so it doesn't even matter anyways xD
Regarding the clip you showed with Boogie, (13:57) when Dan said "you know me, you've been on my sets", the way boogie's eye squinted almost suggests resentment. Like "dont bring me into this"
The doc has accusations of racism, so it feels like "I need to badge you, a Black man to make me look better" moment. (I use "badge" as in scout badge.)
He was the token black character and I'm pretty sure he was exclusively portrayed as a crazy guy, aka bad representation for black people, I'm surprised he even agreed to do the interview!
@@kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061it especially feels that way now with the episode they filmed later on with Giovonnie Samuels and Bryan Hearne were interviewed about the apology video. The fact that Dan called Giovonnie before the quiet on set came out and asked how she had felt about him as a child since she had later worked with him as an adult on Henry danger. Also the fact he knew she was being interviewed for a year and he didn’t call the other people on the doc to apologize.
As a kid growing up in the early 2000's, Nickelodeon was one of my favorite channels to watch [other than Suit Life]. I loved watching "iCarly," "Drake & Josh," "Victorious" and "The Amanda Show." As a kid, I never understood those inappropriate jokes at all and I enjoyed the silliness of the shows. When I was 13, I joined "The Slap" because I wanted to be noticed by my favorite people. However, now that I'm in my late 20's and I rewatch any of those shows, I'm disgusted at seeing all the adult content in the shows. I'm so ANGRY with Dan Schneider that he did those things to ADULT WOMEN. Even going so far as going into a HOT TUB [fully clothed or NOT] with Amanda Bynes when she was *16*?! Sickening!!! The fact that he even LET two PDF-files near f*cking CHILREN is mind boggling!!! And that Brian Peck's LAWYERS had called up ALL of *Brian's* friends to write a letter to the JUDGE handling Drake Bell's SA's case under a LIE!!! And it was proven in a statement from one of Brian's friend's who made a statement about how she was SORRY because she was "under the presumption that it was a different matter." There was SO many PEOPLE there to support Brian AT COURT and literally NOBODY was there to support Drake! Dan Schneider is a master manipulator and a Grade A Douchecaneo~!!! P.S. If Drake Bell happens to see my comment, just know that I would've been there in that court room to support you. And that many MANY others would've, too.
The thing with me that a lot of people resonate with too is as a kid when I watched those shows and those moments came up on the show like where they showed feet or those weird Arianna grande scenes etc I did actually feel uncomfortable. I couldn’t put my finger on why I did but even as a kid it just made me feel weird. And now as an adult I know exactly why it was so uncomfortable to watch. Dan says that it’s adults pointing this stuff out but he doesn’t realize it’s us adults who have grown up after watching his shows that see it.
@@shelbydn6187 I didn't like feet and seeing those scenes definitely made me uncomfortable. I loved watching them because they were my favorite shows and put up with the weird scenes. Kids and adults [who grew up with these shows] have seen how weird it has been.
I'm really glad you're discussing this. I've seen some doc here on UA-cam for years and have discussed these shows with friends and family at various times. I am still shocked that Dan has been protected this long.
The part where Dan explains the salaries is probably the only mostly truthful stuff he says that's why he suddenly has this odd burst of confidence in explaining it
I appreciate your take on this, i worked with offenders of SA AND dv at the beginning of my career. Some truly have regret and shame for their beahviors and there inability to reframe from acting on impulse. Some apologize because they were caught, and they are now seen for their preditory behaviors, they know people want them to apologize. As a client said years ago. "You apologize for spilled milk, you dont apologize for when you hurt someone". Knowing one is truly sorry and regretful only comes with time after you stopped hurting people. I greatly appreciate you discussing this topic and not showing the videos, those kids were exploted enough. These kids at times had their parents on set, and they didnt say anything due to the money and fame. Your other question, was where is the line for something being inappropriate. Everyone has their own threshold, for each individual they have to ask themself "does this make me uncomfortable" go with your gut, teach your children they have automony over their body and a right to tell someone "no".
Thank you for sharing your perspective on this topic. I really value the fact you said Drake’s SA should’ve been its own series, because I agree that Dan used his experience as a scapegoat.
A leopard doesn't change its spots. Minimizing, passing the blame, claiming inexperience, talking about how many liked working with him...naaah...i see spots, Leopard-like spots.
They both seem to be way too comfortable with their words for it to not be scripted. Like, even if you're a gifted speaker, if this is the first time you're being confronted with these sorts of accusations and making statements about them, there is going to be some internal struggle and uncertainty. This seems very much like he has had time to perfect his answers (which brings to question your point of why he hasn't contacted any of these people to aplogize beforehand). Likewise, even if a person did not personally wrong you, if you learn of these things about them and then confront them, there is going to be awkwardness. Animosity. Confusion. All of this just sounds like them shooting the breeze. I wouldn't be surprised if it was all set up in advance for Dan's hopeful benefit.
His therapist comment sounds to me as if, in his perspective, the issue is not sexual harassment of children, but that for him, the children who have issues on set are those that aren't "ready to do what it takes to get famous". I think this is terrifying. This man and how he talks sends chills down my spine. Furthermore, wasn't Drakes mother, whom he describes as wonderful, extremely neglectful towards Drake? I don't know any mother who would let her kid sleep over at a wayy older coworkers place to save gas and time. For me, this seemed very negligent, especially when you contrast her with the father. This would also explain how Dan knew that it was Drake, as that was a question I had after the documentary as seemingly the rest of the set didn't know. All in all, this interview makes him even more suspicious and just goes to show how little it all means to him. He's throwing himself a pity party.
I'd say that his apology script was more about what he was able to do to avoid a court room. It seemed more about justification and minimisation than genuine regret.
Great analysis! I found it odd that he states he HAS apologized to the people before and then a little later he states he definitely owes them an apology like he hasn’t done so already. So which is it?! I agree there is a lot of deflection from specific issues by talking about the broader issue so he doesn’t have to take personal accountability for purposeful decisions he made or actions that paint him in a bad way.
If Dan had to help Drake's mom write the statement about the abuse her son suffered and then didn't do everything in his power to make sure that pos never works with kids ever again is very telling.
To me, Dan "helping" Drake at the time was like the announcer of the Phillies just keeping an occasional eye on the guy playing the Phillie Finatic to make sure he's not struggling too much when walking around in the costume.
It's so frustrating to me that people like Dan aren't called out sooner. People shouldn't have to be afraid to come forward (or punished for it). Something has to change. I just wish I knew how to make it happen.
Loved your analysis and explanation! I agree with everything. This was a calculated PR 'apology', it lacked authenticity. When we apologise we should directly contact the people affected and say sorry. We do not talk to a interviewer for the cameras.
"At which point in a producer's journey do you learn that it's unacceptable to make a woman present to a room full of people while pretending to be s*d*mized?" P R E A CH
Agreed!!! People are only sorry when they get caught. If truly sorry, the documentary would have ppl saying Dan apologized. And yes, I noticed how he side stepped the question about complaint/thought of content. I always got creeped out out by him when watching "Head of the Class" and now I know why. You are 100% correct on your observations. Glad you posted on it.
I was Always creeped out by him in "Head Of The Class" too! I was in high school but always felt uncomfortable about his character but couldn't put my finger on why. Now we know why they always say to Trust Your Gut!!
I love how you explain your arguments why the things he has said are unreasonable. I bet no one has a chance argueing with you 😅 You explain really well
I just watched the documentary so was so excited to see you post a video about it!! I LOVe that you didn’t post the inappropriate scenes as to not give them more exposure 👏 This was so insightful! He really is pretty sly at being manipulative and gaslighting in a way (if I’m using that term correctly) But so good to see someone calling out the ways some things he says just DO not line up. Great video!!! You’re the one content creator that I NEVER miss a video! Like a reward after a long week!! Oh and also, I bawled when Drake’s dad was crying, it hurt my heart 💔 But not when this guy cried.
31:40 he LITERALLY said 10s ago that he’s never done a writer’s deal, and then he goes right on describing how a writer’s salary would get negotiated. Even if you’re not directly involved, you’re related by your decisions of saying “yes, let’s make two people share a salary because they’re expendable”. Regardless of whether or not they’re male or female, THAT 👏SHOULD 👏 NEVER 👏 HAVE 👏 BEEN 👏 OK 👏 IN 👏 ANY 👏 KIND 👏 OF 👏 TIME 🎬
41:18 THATS NOT WHAT A THERAPIST DOES. Those are called agents. Therapists help you work through your emotional state. They’re not there to offer advice on what you need in order to be successful. I think what you meant here, Dan, is advocacy for the kids and their families. Or, aka, someone who genuinely cares and wants the kids to be happy. Not someone who only sees them as dollar signs.
Great breakdown! I think you hit on all the feelings I had while watching his apology, so it was great to hear the why/how to what I was feeling. Overall, yeah it feels like he still doesn't care, thinks he hasn't done anything wrong because no one stopped him or told him not to do it, and I get the hint he's mostly afraid of being seen as a 'bad guy' publicly.
Part of what we need to pay attention to is who's saying the jokes. For example, animated kids films such as Shrek, Rio, and more include underhanded adult jokes being told by adult actors. The jokes on his shows were being told by children.
Great video Spidey! So many great lessons, I was wondering if you're still going to cover "mediums" and cold readings? I hope you do, it would be so interesting!! :)
@thebehavioralarts I appreciate that you have the integrity to not repost the videos. For the victims and victims in general it is hard to see these videos and the comments. Thank you for not just speaking to Dan's behaviour but also to his words. It is validating for those who want to reply and don't have to, because you say it so well. I remeber watching these shows as a child and feeling saddened for the actors. I also remeber watching your television appearances and being entertained. Its lovely to see what you have chosen to do with your career and talents. It is meaningful.
Spidey I think with "making sure the kid wants to be there" he's referring to situations like with Jennette McCurdy. It was her mother who decided Jennette would become an actress, and Jennette booked roles because she was talented and gave her best because her purpose in life was to make mom happy. She never wanted that career herself. A good therapist might be able to detect where the motivation is coming from
Yah however I don’t think a Theraphist could have stopped her mom from what she was doing either. And Jannette was so in deep I don’t think that a Therphist would have gotten it out of her unless they were meeting pretty regularly…I don’t know.
My impression is more of an intend to have kids only dedicated to being there -> less likely to complain, and more willing to jump the hoops that HE 'd want them to. It would help him, keep the storry and complains down and from coming out, which .. I kind of find scary. Pretty sure he thought about howntomcover his stacks and minimize the problems for him. That is not improvment, most certainly not for child actors.
23:45 I love that you distinguished the difference between adult humor and inappropriate humor. Almost all the old cartoons did it, like how many times have you seen a kid's show and noticed the double entendre behind it later on as an adult? That's all well and good, but what Dan was doing was definitely not that, where even as a kid you go "that was kinda weird" Edit: To answer the question, I think it's the intent. Like I can imagine in a writer's room full of maybe comedy fans that hears a line and takes in out of context, makes it a point to make a joke and leans into it without going too far but it's subtly there. The way Dan writes, as mentioned before he runs a tight ship of his way or no way and so from the beginning he wanted these scenes to occur no matter what. He had a vision behind it, and I think it's pretty clear what that was inside and outside the scripts.
I told my ex husband when my oldest daughter was watching iCarly/Victorious to mark my words on the fact that one day the show runners would be exposed for some weird chomo stuff at some point. You could not watch that show as a grown adult and not know what you were looking at and the intent behind it. I knew I wasn’t being crazy. It felt like some sort of peethreedeeoh dog whistle.
Agree, and also the huuuge difference between adult jokes in cartoons is the media. Cartoons are animated, aren't real people. Sure, the jokes can be inappropriate and wrong as well when written with poor intention, but at least they're being portrayed by fictional characters who exist only in the timespan and universe of that cartoon. With Nickelodeon, these were very much real kids being used as vehicles, as literal toys for the adults to make inappropriate jokes, perverted adults who probably thought it was even funnier to have unaware (real) kids doing adult stuff, ignoring how that could've have ripercussions later on their lives, career and mental health.
Clearly, he's not sorry for anything he did to anyone. He's just trying to save his reputation. I think he failed. And BTW, it is NOT common practice in television to take two writers who are not already partners and make them split a salary. Absolutely not. I've worked in scripted TV in LA for decades. Not only is it not done, the union would not stand for it. Frankly, any agent who agrees to this needs to be dropped. Now, if a writing team gets hired together (not put together by the show), then they do split the writers feel as if they're only one person because they do not work separately from each other, so their writing output equals that of one person.
The best kid movie with adult intended humor will forever be Shrek. I watched it with my dad and my niece when she was little, watched it with my boys when they were little, I have watched it with my grandma and husband, and one day I will watch it with my grandkids. It's a great movie and in my opinion a timeless movie.
Regarding the line between what's OK and what's not, I think something that matters is how forced it is. For example, in the documentary, they talk about the scene from Zoey 101 that made them particularly uncomfortable was the jelly squirting on Jamie Lynn's face. That just wouldn't happen naturally. Whereas with language at least there's a chance that a kid could say something and not realize it could be misconstrued
As soon as i saw him crying in the apology i knew something was up. And the fact that the COMMENTS ARE TURNED OFF. he doesn't want anyone calling out more crap. He should be arrested, honestly.
i remember avoiding certain episodes as a kid cus there was so many scenes that made me feel uncomfortable and i didn't even know why at the time, and as someone who hates feet "them" scenes really stuck out alot too
Spidey. You are *the first* person covering this topic who refused to air those disgusting scenes. THANK YOU. I have seen them so many times while going down this rabbit hole and I feel like my face is permanently contorted into "disgust" from it. Blegh. Where you're talking about where we draw the line for suggestive jokes in kid shows: I agree having the joke spoken is one thing! But another thing, in my opinion, is when it involves the children. Having a child essentially perform a suggestive joke or when a kid is put into a compromising position for something that's clearly adult entertainment. I firmly believe that Schneider knew what he was doing. The format in which Ariana Grande's character was recorded during the potato segment, toe-s*cking segment, and water-pouring segment all made it specifically look like a p0rno. On top of that, the way that her character talks. She's not just being made to sound young and dumb. She's supposed to sound like a p0rnstar. It's disgusting. And the very clear mock c*mshots. Bleeeeeghhhhh There was SO much more that Schneider has been accused of that they didn't touch on in the documentary. It bothers me that he doesn't address his cr33py relationship with Amanda Bynes. Does he even comment on making women massage him? I'd love to see YOU or one of the Behavior Panel interview him. He was way too comfortable here. Sorry I always write you a book when I comment but I have a couple off-topic questions: What show are you on on Netflix? I googled it but couldn't find anything and I'd love to watch it. Second, is your Pothos plant okay? (assuming that's what it is) lol. You might just need a tiny little LED light for it. I noticed in your last video it was losing some leaves and I'm not trying to be bossy at all, lol I'm autistic and plants are one of my obsessions so I just had to ask. 🤣🤣 I know this week was tough for you, so I just wanna say I appreciate you and hope next week treats you better. Happy easter btw!!!
Spidey, I agree with you on this except for one thing, which derives from my own clinical experience. I believe Dan is victim-blaming when he suggests therapists should be on-set. It’s subtle but definitely revelatory of his true perspective. He is suggesting that the complaints by these child actors arise because they were unsuitable to the task, they were in the wrong careers, they shouldnt have been on the set at all. It’s the “casting couch” myth, all over again. A part of him still believes these actors and staffers should have submitted to the abuse and accepted his dominance of them. They should, he believes evidently, have “closed their eyes and thought of Hollywood”. (I dont know if you get that Victorian/British reference?)
Omg @TheBehavioralArts this video was so on point and calls Dan out so poignantly. Please keep contributing to a kinder society. We need this awareness! Thank you!❤❤❤
Hey Everyone!
Sorry the video was a little later than usual, I was making some last minute changes. Also, for those of you who use the subtitles, it will take a bit of time for them to be ready given the last minute upload. Thank you for your patience.
I Hope you all enjoy the analysis, I had to cut down a lot of what I filmed because it was getting very long so you might notice i skipped over a few things we've talked about a lot in other videos (like one-sided shoulder shrugs and mouth shrugs) but I am very happy with the things I did cover on this, I think there was a lot of great subtleties to the words he was choosing.
Enjoy 🤗!
I was anxious to watch this so I just put on my headphones lol Also, I'd love to see your thoughts on Kenan's interview. I feel he was genuine about his feelings.
Thank you for hitting every important point in the interview. Very on point.
@@Marle_xvxthanks 😊
I am hearing impaired and had to wait for the closed captions but it’s ok! It was worth it. Great analysis of this interview. I didn’t feel Dan Schneider was genuine at all really. How easy it is to say now, 20-25 years later, that had someone said something you would’ve cut this or that out 😐 what matters is what you said and did THEN and that you were not approachable and people were afraid to say they were uncomfortable. Thank you again Spidey for another fantastic video! I always learn so much
@@aleigha9141 my pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for your patience 😊
Hes not sorry for what he did, he's sorry he got caught and called out for it.
Took the words right out of my mouth (fingers?) 💯
Funny how he’s never apologized until now! You’re right!
At that Time he was the boss and they were Just actors tryng to make a career...im hoping Someone Will do something about this because an individual like him should not be around
Exactly, Dirty Dan will never feel sorry or remorseful for that matter, he's just hopeful that people will feel sorry for him and play the "I did a lot of bad stuff back in the day, but now I'm the victim here because people are being mean to me for all the horrible stuff I did" card
How do you know that for sure? Can you prove it?
Dan’s behavior with children and adult women is disgusting. He’s sorry because he was called out . He should name names with his apologies, instead of blanket apologies.
Even his blanket apologies have holes.
He cannot say details because he knows could be self-snitching for a future lawsuit or even worst, criminal case. He knows he victimized people.
Yeah but these people did the things lol. She was like ok ill bend over the table and do whatever act you want lmao. Only reason she is shy is cause it's brought up now and she don't want ppl to know what she did to make some money and get famous lmao. Sad world. But if someone tell you over and over to commit a murder or do cocaine like you can't just blame them for it that's why it's called peer pressure. Maybe they should have said no way and left. Lmao. Why take the money and the reputation with nickelodeon and then complain about it? Lmao. Alot of the stuff spoke about is funny kids TV. You just have a bunch of pervert adults that are looking back now. Like if they didn't have dirty thoughts then it wouldn't be seen so bad just like when it was first aired. There may have been bad things behind the scenes but some isn't all that bad that was brought up. Obviously some stuff that happened can't ever be made right but alot of the stuff is just pervert adults watching xxx movies everyday watching a kid show after xxx like wth makes no sense
@NCbeachlady 💯 % agree!
Just a diddy in sheep’s clothing!
"This guy made a life writing kids TV shows and he seems to know nothing about children."
Best summary I've heard of this entire situation.
Agreed.
Reminds me of a narcissistic friend. She had "many friends", yet couldn't deal with humans, no empathy, couldn't behave properly, didn't care about boundaries to name a few.
I was a very quiet person, didn't talk much, closed off. When I went abroad for 1 year, I dealt with many different other foreign students and locals, learned a lot how to behave and treat different ppl, got open-minded etc. It's just a red flag for me, if someone isn't changing for the "better". They don't question their behavior, that's why a change is not needed for them
The whole interview was scripted by Dan and fake. I think the interviewer was likely paid to do this interview as well.
Predators know their prey...
@@db_cooks i think he did it even for free and got a "present" as a thanks :D
Ryan Reynolds has said that he doesn't want his children to be child actors like he was. When the talk show host asked why he said he "[doesn't] approve of child abuse."
When Dan said that a therapist should be on set to talk to the kids about if they really want to be famous, it sounded like his presupposition was that if kids want to be famous, they will have to encounter what was happening on set. And if they can’t handle that, they need to choose not to be famous. I don’t think Dan meant to let that out in his response but I think he slipped up and said it.
Yeah he said the quiet part out loud.
Exactly😢. So creepy. Came off like paid therapist to coerce children
To be a “successful” writer, which I have no knowledge of as I never watched those kids shows or the documentary, he seems to be oblivious to how his words sound like in this interview.
He wanted to leverage the professional to control the kid... that's why he said that.
Yeah I caught that too! I was wondering if I was reading too much into that, but I’m sure that’s exactly what he meant, like “well they should know what they’re getting into, and if they don’t like it then don’t 🤷♀️ “ type vibe , as if the issue wasn’t all the abusive the predators , but the children not understanding what they’re getting into🤮
I had to pause the video to address the line of adult jokes in kid movies. What stood out to me instantly using Ratatouille as the example is that the characters are adults. When I’m watching a kids movie and the adult characters make a reference or joke, it’s funny and relatable because you’re seeing the adult character doing/thinking like adults. It is ALWAYS awkward and inappropriate when a child is the one saying or referencing an adult comment/situation. It doesn’t match in our minds and I think that’s what creates that discomfort.
Yes in Shrek the comments that Shrek make are great inuendo and are done in such a way that an adult can still come up with a kid friendly explanation for what it was they were laughing at and most of the time it was Shrek saying them. Agree that it is very different hearing an adult saying inuendo than a child.
You explained that beautifully. I didn't know how to put it into words but that exactly explained where the discomfort comes from.
I can’t stand any writing that when spoken by the child actor, doesn’t ring true, isn’t what a kid that age would say. It’s probably why I don’t enjoy “family” sitcoms.
I've been at friends houses while their kid is watching a cartoon and the characters make adult-ish jokes that kids don't understand. The kids just keep watching and don't pick up on the fact it was a joke, they just absorb it as normal dialog. I've looked at the kids to see if their facial gestures indicate that they get the joke, but are pretending that they don't. The jokes harmlessly fly over their heads and entertain the adults who are stuck watching the show.
Toy Story
I love how in this entire interview, harassment and almost criminal behaviour is minimized to "I wasn't always the nicest guy." Nobody's expecting a producer, writer, director or creator to be the second coming. They expect that he or she will act like a professional and focus on the job in accordance with the law and company policy. You don't have to be a "nice guy" to not harass someone. These aren't your friends. They're co-workers and employees. You don't have to start chatting about your private lives. Just use common sense. "I was immature." That's not immaturity. That's harassment.
Yes, harassment and plain abuse!
Preach!
Did u really expect a TV producer have morals and be professional? Do u also think politicians are honest people and never lie? Of course this guy is 💯 guilty, but does anyone really think leaving there young children alone with TV producers is a wise move? Would you go to Brooklyn at 3AM and walk down a dark alley?
@@michael-4k4000Are you actually excusing this behavior as “that’s just how Hollywood is, so it’s ok.”? Naw, bro. We as a society aren’t accepting that anymore. It’s over.
@Accountdeactivated80085 First of all if u use a quotation you might want to say who it's from as that's not what I said in anyway shape or form. That behavior is obviously wrong and should be persecuted if true, and it seems true. What I'm saying is the parents should have been more diligent about protecting the child. The child should never ever be left alone without the parent or guardian.
Thank you for not sharing the inappropriate videos of the kids. I didn't think they should be seen again and again.
That potato scene is frickin unbelievable and DISGUSTING!
@@johnnystein67can someone explain for me the potato scene? i just don't get it and I've seen the clip. is it supposed to be a dick? i don't think a potato looks like a dick personally. maybe it's why I'm confused.
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@@timjbull92It's supposed to resemble an adult actress begging for the "money shot."
The scene is not about the potato. It's about the juicing. But moreso than that, its about catching these young actors in a glimpse of humiliation or desperation that is similar to adult film. It's not a common look for children so it is the selling point. In order to achieve that they have to be pushed to that emotion or have to be able to tap into it from experience. Watching these shows as a child made me sad because I understood that.
I’m sorry but you cannot convince me that any of the shots they showed of Ariana Grande were “made for a kid audience because kids find them funny.” I was a kid at that time and I did not find them funny. I found them to be very uncomfortable.
Exactly. Kids weren't drawn to the "jokes". They loved watching kids have fun together 😢
I was more disturbed from the feet stuff I remember being like “wow there’s a lot of feet in these shows” and I was only 4
True. When I saw all those scenes, I was disturbed and hoped my mom wouldn't see it or come in.... We knew from the beginning that this was wrong.
I completely agree. I remember watching it as a kid and I was very confused and uncomfortable. I didn't get it and just waited for the next scene in the show.
I literally stopped watching his shows because they were weird… and as a kid I wasn’t sure why… now I do.
The moment his voice breaks, just before a fake cry, my immidiate thought was "oh boy, here we go (eye roll)". You can litterally count 3... 2...1.... Scene. That "emotion" came and went as if it never was there. And you are right Spidey - Mr. Bell's emotions in the docu-series were so heart breaking that you can't help but cry with him too.
Give the guy a break. He hasn't been acting for a while so he's a bit rusty. 🤣
@@jenniferrollin5777no breaks allowed for this clown 😅
The “emotion” switch on and off like Johnny Depp’s ex during the trial, this looked so fake!
I started to tear up at that part of the interview, not because of Dan and his fake cry, but just thinking back to the original documentary and all the terrible things that happened to Drake. If Dan really cared that much I doubt the emotion would have been that quick. Also, why was it necessary to mention that he helped write what Drake's mom said in court? So now you are a hero?
Don't even get me started with that chuckle he gave before saying he would remove the inappropriate stuff if told to.
I noticed "I snapped at people, I got snarky" was also a deflection: Nobody cares if he snapped at people, though acting that way around children is a separate issue. It's the sexual harassment and covering for pedophiles we're worried about.
People did care if he snapped and got snarky. That lent to the atmosphere that you could not approach or question his decisions.
What is 1 of the main themes we lately hear so much about since Jeffrey E's story. Not only in the US but also here in Europe. It seems a big thing everywhere. What about the transmovement so highly promoted even by presidents and the pope. Is it an agenda. What about the explicit sexual education of our children. It is interesting to look up what the who and UNICEF write in their rights for children. It seems as if they are preparing society for the P-word: children have to have the rights parents won't grant them at such a young age, so the laws will give them what they "want and deserve"...
@@bonsense7004 Speaking of deflections, what about trans people? They're irrelevant to this. (And pretty much when I was a kid, sex ed was "penis goes in vagina, nine months later baby". That's how explicit it is today, for that matter.) Also, the Convention on the Rights of the Child explicitly includes the right to be free from sexual exploitation. But can't spell Don Quixote without Q.
No, this was rich people exploiting their money and power to exploit the most vulnerable.
Now, what about a certain former US president who used to peek in on Miss Teen USA contestants changing? And was friends with Epstein, hmm? Hmm? Hmm? I'm just Saiyan...
Which he denied and there's literally no proof about it lol
YOU ARE RIGHT!!!! I met Dan at 10 (and his producing partner who very markedly creeped me out..at TEN YEARS OLD) What ppl are saying about him is true. Those inappropriate kids scenes were inside jokes amongst grown men with a Frat boy mentality serving their egos rather than protecting the fragile self worth and safety of children. He should be ashamed of himself (and he isn’t...)
You met him what in a meet and greet? Did you sit there for like 10 years and get to know him? I'm so confused on because you met him that means you know every single ounce about the guy LOL not defending the guy but just saying how does that make your comment credible and solidify everything? Because a lot of these employees coming forward could have came out 5 years ago or even 8 years ago or 10 years ago and nothing would have been different but why did they wait until now and there's no excuse to say well the documentary did this and exposed all of this one there have been UA-cam documentaries out for how many years? Just saying
@@SAMEntalhealthI think you forget how powerful the American entertainment industry is and how much people of all wealth classes fear losing their way of keeping bills paid along with the fact that many of the child stars probably suppressed that shit deep down and tried to move past it probably feeling shame or like it was their fault for some reason like most SA victims do. It’s not a hard question to answer for yourself if you use your head.
@@SAMEntalhealthyou’d think with a username like yours, that you’d be more aware of why this shit is coming to a bigger light👎
When you said "what? do you want a cookie?' The frustration was next level. That was so loud because you are always so calm in your videos. Thank you for your humanity in the ways you review these things
Thank you for not adding the inappropriate footage of those children from the original shows. I also found it incredibly distasteful and exploitative that they re-aired those clips. Class act on your part.
Regarding what “adult jokes” are appropriate for kids and not: An animated cartoon with a very subtle innuendo is completely different than a child acting out an inappropriate gesture. The visual nature of it is the main problem. There is dialog that is just blatantly sexual, not a subtle winkwink, that is just straight up grooming.
Yes how much stuff involved feet is concerning, even more so that some people have brushed it off saying that kids find things with feet funny.
I want to see. I never seen them
@@gabolujan3109 Why do you want to see them? That's not something you should want to see. It's disgusting, disturbing and clearly indicates sexual intentions.
@@corporalrollmops because I want the truth. I want to put these pervs in prison. No one is arrested. They hide the evidence
This is the reaction video I've been waiting for. Congratulations on 1 million subscribers by the way....been here since before Johnny Depp trial and I've loved watching you grow.
His will smith one on 2022 Oscars went super viral. It’s how I discovered him.
Thank you for not feeling like you have to show disturbing things. I like that you have class and consideration for your viewers.
"I hate that anybody who worked for me didn't have a good time (13:45)." Emmy award winning minimization comment.
Yeah. I hate when that happens.🙄
As someone who is healing from narcissistic relationships... this scumbag pisses me off. It's all so obvious when you’ve been through it (and have healed enough to recognize it).
He is a TEXTBOOK example of a narcissistic sociopath. He doesn't take true ownership or accountability for a single thing and shows absolutely no remorse. He has learned how to dance around the issues and pass the blame.
Dan has deeply damaged so many peoples lives... if he truly understood even half of the trauma he has caused- he would need years of therapy and healing to process it all.
He believes a therapist should be on set to help the child deal with bad adult behavior, because clearly it's the child that has the problem. He still does not believe he has a problem. I feel sad for this man.
Disgust is more appropriate.
This part made me so angry. At the beginning I had feeling maybe he really is sorry but the end, the last words he said wow
He's a real predator getting Amanda Bynes pregnant at 13 while she lived with him &wife. She can't speak on it bc he paid her to sign a hush hush contract. The same with Jaime Lynn Spears.
Tell a story like you’re being sod***zed is not a “practical joke”. It’s twisted
And her story was of her back in school as a kid(& he wanted her to tell her childhood story as if she's being sodo mized while telling it) that is definitely predator behavior trying to get her to role play that so he could picture it.
That was absolutely disgusting!!
My question is why are people believing these people and there were so many other employees that are not involved with this just a handful or even a few, what makes what they are claiming factual because it's going with the narrative or because there's evidence of anything? Boogie doesn't bring these things up and Dan doesn't even know about half the conspiracy theories about him that are out there but I am very curious as to why people don't look at both sides of the coin and make people like Brian Peck or Jason handy to be a side dish compared to Dan Schneider when these people have legitimate convictions against them for things that they did do and there's evidence of, just saying not say Dan is Innocent by all means because I see both sides of the coin he could also be everything people are saying but there's also a great chance that people that for instance are these employees, like adult employees back then, have been released from the business or quit for so long why didn't they just say something back then and I don't mean back then as in like 1996 back then I mean like 2010 and 2008 they didn't have anything to lose but everything to gain but now all of a sudden they come out yet there's a bunch of other employees I'm sure that have been involved that are not saying anything and people will immediately think they were probably in on all of the madness and don't want to expose themselves and I'll just sit there and say or they don't even realize that there's so much conspiracy going on that they don't participate also it's kind of screwed up that people that say they didn't have the same experiences others are called Schneider supporters or this or that when they're not denoting other people's experiences they are just saying they didn't experience the same thing that's another thing that is a little bizarre about the Public's Mass opinion
And what would that even contribute to a kid show?!? Unnecessary for the job and shows exactly what culture was in the writing rooms.
Yep Spidey you are right on the money. In the Doc when Drakes dad started crying, it broke me. I could feel his grief through the screen. When Dan pulled a sad face/voice crack I literally blurted out "what are you doing?" 😂 Also the fact Dan felt the need to reiterate that Drake acknowledged him positively just rubbed me wrong :/
Also had like 10 seconds of acting upset and went straight to talking normally again
The way he pretended to cry about helping Drake Bell's mother tells me all I need to know about this man. He's a full on manipulator that doesn't feel bad for anything he's done. I think he's actually pissed off that these people had the temerity to call him out. This has been a known thing for years. I first heard about it over 5 years ago from a UA-cam video. Yet Schneider waited until this big production to address it because he thought it would just fly under the radar. Some of the scenes I've seen look exactly like they were written by a child predator for other child predators and a softball interview that seems almost scripted isn't going to convince me otherwise. This dude has a ton of darkness in him and he spread that darkness around and traumatized too many people. The really sad part is that he's not the first, he won't be the last and it seems that those who mistreat others are the ones who truly thrive in Hollywood.
Those kids desperately wanted to be on television. That wasn’t the issue! It was the sexual behavior on and off screen that was the problem! AND HE KNOWS THAT!
@@victoriaryanlpcpc8075 no one should be THAT desperate.
I think he knew it was inappropriate and liked it.
You ever notice that men who abuse people like this are never apologetic until they’re publicly outed and shamed? That alone tells you the apology is insincere and meaningless
They also never reach out to their victims directly. It’s always a public show only.
Yes! I will believe the person that comes out and apologizes BEFORE the documentary comes out. And not a day before...before there IS one
This isn't even the worst he's done. Getting Amanda Bynes pregnant at 13. She can't speak on it bc he paid her well to stay quiet.
Dan is the literal epitome of “I’m sorry…. Because I got caught”
Great vid! The innuendo in ratatouille is not only for adults. It’s also acted out by adults. While Schneider’s inappropriate innuendos and acts are acted out by kids. Which in consequence, sexualizes them. That’s another line.
The fact that they avoid talking about his biggest victim, says everything to me.
it's kinda double cause drake said he had big support from dan and didn't have anything negative towards him so there is nothing to apologize for in that situation. On the other side, this interview is extremely forced and scripted so it doesn't even matter anyways xD
They should of asked him about Amanda Bynes being pregnant at 13 while staying with him & wife at his house.
She can't talk about it bc he paid her to sign a hush hush contract.
@@Vrazzo1490and she got an abortion so no dna to test... wish someone would do a dna test on Jamie Lynn Spears' daughter.
@@jamie36 Drake isn't his biggest victim, maybe 2nd or 3rd
You introduce me to like 90% of the topics you cover. I watch every week to sit under the learning tree. Thank you for your work.
If your interested in the topic, i would really recommend Alexa's podcast "eat predators" she's former Zoey 101 child actress
@@nubesvaporosasWow! I didn't know she had a podcast. Will check that out.
@@nubesvaporosasAlso, Sloan covers a lot of this stuff.
the learning tree😊🌳❤
Regarding the clip you showed with Boogie, (13:57) when Dan said "you know me, you've been on my sets", the way boogie's eye squinted almost suggests resentment. Like "dont bring me into this"
What a great catch!
Right !
The doc has accusations of racism, so it feels like "I need to badge you, a Black man to make me look better" moment. (I use "badge" as in scout badge.)
He was the token black character and I'm pretty sure he was exclusively portrayed as a crazy guy, aka bad representation for black people, I'm surprised he even agreed to do the interview!
@@kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061it especially feels that way now with the episode they filmed later on with Giovonnie Samuels and Bryan Hearne were interviewed about the apology video. The fact that Dan called Giovonnie before the quiet on set came out and asked how she had felt about him as a child since she had later worked with him as an adult on Henry danger. Also the fact he knew she was being interviewed for a year and he didn’t call the other people on the doc to apologize.
As a kid growing up in the early 2000's, Nickelodeon was one of my favorite channels to watch [other than Suit Life]. I loved watching "iCarly," "Drake & Josh," "Victorious" and "The Amanda Show." As a kid, I never understood those inappropriate jokes at all and I enjoyed the silliness of the shows. When I was 13, I joined "The Slap" because I wanted to be noticed by my favorite people.
However, now that I'm in my late 20's and I rewatch any of those shows, I'm disgusted at seeing all the adult content in the shows. I'm so ANGRY with Dan Schneider that he did those things to ADULT WOMEN. Even going so far as going into a HOT TUB [fully clothed or NOT] with Amanda Bynes when she was *16*?! Sickening!!!
The fact that he even LET two PDF-files near f*cking CHILREN is mind boggling!!! And that Brian Peck's LAWYERS had called up ALL of *Brian's* friends to write a letter to the JUDGE handling Drake Bell's SA's case under a LIE!!! And it was proven in a statement from one of Brian's friend's who made a statement about how she was SORRY because she was "under the presumption that it was a different matter." There was SO many PEOPLE there to support Brian AT COURT and literally NOBODY was there to support Drake!
Dan Schneider is a master manipulator and a Grade A Douchecaneo~!!!
P.S. If Drake Bell happens to see my comment, just know that I would've been there in that court room to support you. And that many MANY others would've, too.
The thing with me that a lot of people resonate with too is as a kid when I watched those shows and those moments came up on the show like where they showed feet or those weird Arianna grande scenes etc I did actually feel uncomfortable. I couldn’t put my finger on why I did but even as a kid it just made me feel weird. And now as an adult I know exactly why it was so uncomfortable to watch.
Dan says that it’s adults pointing this stuff out but he doesn’t realize it’s us adults who have grown up after watching his shows that see it.
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I didn't like feet and seeing those scenes definitely made me uncomfortable. I loved watching them because they were my favorite shows and put up with the weird scenes.
Kids and adults [who grew up with these shows] have seen how weird it has been.
I'm really glad you're discussing this. I've seen some doc here on UA-cam for years and have discussed these shows with friends and family at various times. I am still shocked that Dan has been protected this long.
The part where Dan explains the salaries is probably the only mostly truthful stuff he says that's why he suddenly has this odd burst of confidence in explaining it
This interview just proved that sometimes people are only sorry that they got caught. This man showed no true remorse and has no accountability.
Dude! I searched for this analysis the second I saw this pop off 😳 I'm sooooo amped to hear what you have to say my friend! 👍
Any apology that comes with a “but” is not really an apology. “I shouldn’t have done it, BUT, I was inexperienced.”
My Dad always used to say, anything said after “but” renders an apology null and void ☺️
Yup, it's a conditional apology and doesn't mean shit.
Absolutely fantastic job on covering this!
I appreciate your take on this, i worked with offenders of SA AND dv at the beginning of my career. Some truly have regret and shame for their beahviors and there inability to reframe from acting on impulse. Some apologize because they were caught, and they are now seen for their preditory behaviors, they know people want them to apologize. As a client said years ago. "You apologize for spilled milk, you dont apologize for when you hurt someone". Knowing one is truly sorry and regretful only comes with time after you stopped hurting people. I greatly appreciate you discussing this topic and not showing the videos, those kids were exploted enough. These kids at times had their parents on set, and they didnt say anything due to the money and fame. Your other question, was where is the line for something being inappropriate. Everyone has their own threshold, for each individual they have to ask themself "does this make me uncomfortable" go with your gut, teach your children they have automony over their body and a right to tell someone "no".
Thank you for sharing your perspective on this topic. I really value the fact you said Drake’s SA should’ve been its own series, because I agree that Dan used his experience as a scapegoat.
first thing I noticed was how he said 'I appreciated how YOU reached out', i interpreted in it exactly the same way you did
A leopard doesn't change its spots. Minimizing, passing the blame, claiming inexperience, talking about how many liked working with him...naaah...i see spots, Leopard-like spots.
They both seem to be way too comfortable with their words for it to not be scripted. Like, even if you're a gifted speaker, if this is the first time you're being confronted with these sorts of accusations and making statements about them, there is going to be some internal struggle and uncertainty. This seems very much like he has had time to perfect his answers (which brings to question your point of why he hasn't contacted any of these people to aplogize beforehand).
Likewise, even if a person did not personally wrong you, if you learn of these things about them and then confront them, there is going to be awkwardness. Animosity. Confusion.
All of this just sounds like them shooting the breeze. I wouldn't be surprised if it was all set up in advance for Dan's hopeful benefit.
Great analysis. A difficult topic and you handled it so well.
His therapist comment sounds to me as if, in his perspective, the issue is not sexual harassment of children, but that for him, the children who have issues on set are those that aren't "ready to do what it takes to get famous". I think this is terrifying. This man and how he talks sends chills down my spine. Furthermore, wasn't Drakes mother, whom he describes as wonderful, extremely neglectful towards Drake? I don't know any mother who would let her kid sleep over at a wayy older coworkers place to save gas and time. For me, this seemed very negligent, especially when you contrast her with the father. This would also explain how Dan knew that it was Drake, as that was a question I had after the documentary as seemingly the rest of the set didn't know.
All in all, this interview makes him even more suspicious and just goes to show how little it all means to him. He's throwing himself a pity party.
Clicked so fast! Can't wait to hear your take on him Spidey
Same!
Needed to hear your take on this Spidey!!
oooo so glad you're covering this! Thank you Spidey!! Hope you're have a great weekend and make time to relax! You're the best!
I'd say that his apology script was more about what he was able to do to avoid a court room. It seemed more about justification and minimisation than genuine regret.
Great analysis!
I found it odd that he states he HAS apologized to the people before and then a little later he states he definitely owes them an apology like he hasn’t done so already. So which is it?!
I agree there is a lot of deflection from specific issues by talking about the broader issue so he doesn’t have to take personal accountability for purposeful decisions he made or actions that paint him in a bad way.
This has been going on for a long time. He needs to be accountable.
If Dan had to help Drake's mom write the statement about the abuse her son suffered and then didn't do everything in his power to make sure that pos never works with kids ever again is very telling.
To me, Dan "helping" Drake at the time was like the announcer of the Phillies just keeping an occasional eye on the guy playing the Phillie Finatic to make sure he's not struggling too much when walking around in the costume.
It's so frustrating to me that people like Dan aren't called out sooner. People shouldn't have to be afraid to come forward (or punished for it). Something has to change. I just wish I knew how to make it happen.
Loved your analysis and explanation! I agree with everything. This was a calculated PR 'apology', it lacked authenticity. When we apologise we should directly contact the people affected and say sorry. We do not talk to a interviewer for the cameras.
"At which point in a producer's journey do you learn that it's unacceptable to make a woman present to a room full of people while pretending to be s*d*mized?" P R E A CH
I have so much respect for you and how you delivered this video! Please never stop making videos for everyone to see xx
Agreed!!! People are only sorry when they get caught. If truly sorry, the documentary would have ppl saying Dan apologized. And yes, I noticed how he side stepped the question about complaint/thought of content.
I always got creeped out out by him when watching "Head of the Class" and now I know why. You are 100% correct on your observations. Glad you posted on it.
I was Always creeped out by him in "Head Of The Class" too! I was in high school but always felt uncomfortable about his character but couldn't put my finger on why. Now we know why they always say to Trust Your Gut!!
Once again, you nailed it. The distancing, the minimizing, the obfuscation. Classic manipulator. Thanks Spidey.
I just love your analysis and unbiased insight! It’s refreshing. Plus, I’ve been learning a lot. Fantastic job! I look forward to your next video.☺️
Thank you so much 😊 glad you enjoyed it
I love how you explain your arguments why the things he has said are unreasonable. I bet no one has a chance argueing with you 😅 You explain really well
I just watched the documentary so was so excited to see you post a video about it!! I LOVe that you didn’t post the inappropriate scenes as to not give them more exposure 👏 This was so insightful! He really is pretty sly at being manipulative and gaslighting in a way (if I’m using that term correctly) But so good to see someone calling out the ways some things he says just DO not line up. Great video!!! You’re the one content creator that I NEVER miss a video! Like a reward after a long week!! Oh and also, I bawled when Drake’s dad was crying, it hurt my heart 💔 But not when this guy cried.
Thanks!
thank YOU :)
Thank you for looking into this and exposing this important issue
Spidey, your passion came through in this video, and rightly so!!! Congrats on 1 million!!! 🎉
31:40 he LITERALLY said 10s ago that he’s never done a writer’s deal, and then he goes right on describing how a writer’s salary would get negotiated. Even if you’re not directly involved, you’re related by your decisions of saying “yes, let’s make two people share a salary because they’re expendable”. Regardless of whether or not they’re male or female, THAT 👏SHOULD 👏 NEVER 👏 HAVE 👏 BEEN 👏 OK 👏 IN 👏 ANY 👏 KIND 👏 OF 👏 TIME 🎬
41:18 THATS NOT WHAT A THERAPIST DOES. Those are called agents. Therapists help you work through your emotional state. They’re not there to offer advice on what you need in order to be successful. I think what you meant here, Dan, is advocacy for the kids and their families. Or, aka, someone who genuinely cares and wants the kids to be happy. Not someone who only sees them as dollar signs.
Great breakdown! I think you hit on all the feelings I had while watching his apology, so it was great to hear the why/how to what I was feeling.
Overall, yeah it feels like he still doesn't care, thinks he hasn't done anything wrong because no one stopped him or told him not to do it, and I get the hint he's mostly afraid of being seen as a 'bad guy' publicly.
Excellent analysis, spot on! Always great to hear how you arrive at your decisions.
The best adult jokes in kids movies are the ones that are deeply encrypted so that just adults understand them.
Part of what we need to pay attention to is who's saying the jokes. For example, animated kids films such as Shrek, Rio, and more include underhanded adult jokes being told by adult actors. The jokes on his shows were being told by children.
Great video Spidey! So many great lessons, I was wondering if you're still going to cover "mediums" and cold readings? I hope you do, it would be so interesting!! :)
It’s something I want to do properly. It’s in my big projects list which means it will take time but I’m really passionate about the topic
Excellent video as always Spidey. Congratulations on 1M!🎊🎉
Another great analysis!! Thank you!
I was WAITING for a video like this....thank you for covering this!
Thank you! I’ve been waiting to hear your take on this.
@thebehavioralarts I appreciate that you have the integrity to not repost the videos. For the victims and victims in general it is hard to see these videos and the comments. Thank you for not just speaking to Dan's behaviour but also to his words. It is validating for those who want to reply and don't have to, because you say it so well. I remeber watching these shows as a child and feeling saddened for the actors. I also remeber watching your television appearances and being entertained. Its lovely to see what you have chosen to do with your career and talents. It is meaningful.
I've been waiting so patiently for this video!!!! ❤
Great video, spidey. You really went in on him and made great points
Thanks 😊 glad you enjoyed it
Great analysis! I think the way you made a distinction between "jokes for adults" vs the inappropriate things Dan put in his shows.
I think the line is adults making the adult jokes and kids making the adult jokes.
Good analysis, as always. It's more an act of fame preservation than an act of true regret.
Your analysis is so thorough- thank you!
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Spidey I think with "making sure the kid wants to be there" he's referring to situations like with Jennette McCurdy. It was her mother who decided Jennette would become an actress, and Jennette booked roles because she was talented and gave her best because her purpose in life was to make mom happy. She never wanted that career herself.
A good therapist might be able to detect where the motivation is coming from
Yah however I don’t think a Theraphist could have stopped her mom from what she was doing either. And Jannette was so in deep I don’t think that a Therphist would have gotten it out of her unless they were meeting pretty regularly…I don’t know.
My impression is more of an intend to have kids only dedicated to being there -> less likely to complain, and more willing to jump the hoops that HE 'd want them to.
It would help him, keep the storry and complains down and from coming out, which .. I kind of find scary. Pretty sure he thought about howntomcover his stacks and minimize the problems for him. That is not improvment, most certainly not for child actors.
The way you can read, explain and pick up everything i can…. feel? but cannot explain. 👏🏻
23:45 I love that you distinguished the difference between adult humor and inappropriate humor. Almost all the old cartoons did it, like how many times have you seen a kid's show and noticed the double entendre behind it later on as an adult? That's all well and good, but what Dan was doing was definitely not that, where even as a kid you go "that was kinda weird"
Edit: To answer the question, I think it's the intent. Like I can imagine in a writer's room full of maybe comedy fans that hears a line and takes in out of context, makes it a point to make a joke and leans into it without going too far but it's subtly there. The way Dan writes, as mentioned before he runs a tight ship of his way or no way and so from the beginning he wanted these scenes to occur no matter what. He had a vision behind it, and I think it's pretty clear what that was inside and outside the scripts.
Allll the innuendos in Rocko's Modern Life are complete proof of the realizing as an adult! Like Rocko working a sex line.
I told my ex husband when my oldest daughter was watching iCarly/Victorious to mark my words on the fact that one day the show runners would be exposed for some weird chomo stuff at some point. You could not watch that show as a grown adult and not know what you were looking at and the intent behind it.
I knew I wasn’t being crazy. It felt like some sort of peethreedeeoh dog whistle.
Agree, and also the huuuge difference between adult jokes in cartoons is the media. Cartoons are animated, aren't real people. Sure, the jokes can be inappropriate and wrong as well when written with poor intention, but at least they're being portrayed by fictional characters who exist only in the timespan and universe of that cartoon.
With Nickelodeon, these were very much real kids being used as vehicles, as literal toys for the adults to make inappropriate jokes, perverted adults who probably thought it was even funnier to have unaware (real) kids doing adult stuff, ignoring how that could've have ripercussions later on their lives, career and mental health.
Love you changed your observations these days not only based on facial expressions but also moral compass etc.
This is brilliant. I just discovered your channel and was looking for commentary on this interview in particular. Thank you!
Clearly, he's not sorry for anything he did to anyone. He's just trying to save his reputation. I think he failed. And BTW, it is NOT common practice in television to take two writers who are not already partners and make them split a salary. Absolutely not. I've worked in scripted TV in LA for decades. Not only is it not done, the union would not stand for it. Frankly, any agent who agrees to this needs to be dropped. Now, if a writing team gets hired together (not put together by the show), then they do split the writers feel as if they're only one person because they do not work separately from each other, so their writing output equals that of one person.
Your analysis is right on!!!
I have been waiting for your analysis, Spidy.
The best kid movie with adult intended humor will forever be Shrek. I watched it with my dad and my niece when she was little, watched it with my boys when they were little, I have watched it with my grandma and husband, and one day I will watch it with my grandkids. It's a great movie and in my opinion a timeless movie.
Agreed. Shrek and finding Nemo are the ones that come to mind for me😂
Regarding the line between what's OK and what's not, I think something that matters is how forced it is. For example, in the documentary, they talk about the scene from Zoey 101 that made them particularly uncomfortable was the jelly squirting on Jamie Lynn's face. That just wouldn't happen naturally. Whereas with language at least there's a chance that a kid could say something and not realize it could be misconstrued
This might be your best work. You didn't miss a single nuance IMO. Bravo
You did such a great job on this Spidey! No surprise though. I love all your content but this one was especially good. Thanks for all you do!
Thanks so much 😊 glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for this analysis. Although I‘m over 30, I must admit I didn’t notice all the gaslighting and blaming others. I‘ve learned a lot today!
He needed to say I'm a POS.. I know I was a POS and I'll pay for people's therapy..
Very insightful analysis! I've been waiting for this since his "apology" came out. Can you maybe do the Ned's declassified podcast apology next?
As soon as i saw him crying in the apology i knew something was up. And the fact that the COMMENTS ARE TURNED OFF. he doesn't want anyone calling out more crap. He should be arrested, honestly.
Not surprised the comments were turned off but at least there's react channels like this one so we don't have to watch the actual interview!
i remember avoiding certain episodes as a kid cus there was so many scenes that made me feel uncomfortable and i didn't even know why at the time, and as someone who hates feet "them" scenes really stuck out alot too
Loved this analysis
Spidey. You are *the first* person covering this topic who refused to air those disgusting scenes. THANK YOU. I have seen them so many times while going down this rabbit hole and I feel like my face is permanently contorted into "disgust" from it. Blegh.
Where you're talking about where we draw the line for suggestive jokes in kid shows: I agree having the joke spoken is one thing! But another thing, in my opinion, is when it involves the children. Having a child essentially perform a suggestive joke or when a kid is put into a compromising position for something that's clearly adult entertainment. I firmly believe that Schneider knew what he was doing. The format in which Ariana Grande's character was recorded during the potato segment, toe-s*cking segment, and water-pouring segment all made it specifically look like a p0rno. On top of that, the way that her character talks. She's not just being made to sound young and dumb. She's supposed to sound like a p0rnstar. It's disgusting. And the very clear mock c*mshots. Bleeeeeghhhhh
There was SO much more that Schneider has been accused of that they didn't touch on in the documentary. It bothers me that he doesn't address his cr33py relationship with Amanda Bynes. Does he even comment on making women massage him? I'd love to see YOU or one of the Behavior Panel interview him. He was way too comfortable here.
Sorry I always write you a book when I comment but I have a couple off-topic questions: What show are you on on Netflix? I googled it but couldn't find anything and I'd love to watch it.
Second, is your Pothos plant okay? (assuming that's what it is) lol. You might just need a tiny little LED light for it. I noticed in your last video it was losing some leaves and I'm not trying to be bossy at all, lol I'm autistic and plants are one of my obsessions so I just had to ask. 🤣🤣
I know this week was tough for you, so I just wanna say I appreciate you and hope next week treats you better. Happy easter btw!!!
Spidey, I agree with you on this except for one thing, which derives from my own clinical experience. I believe Dan is victim-blaming when he suggests therapists should be on-set. It’s subtle but definitely revelatory of his true perspective. He is suggesting that the complaints by these child actors arise because they were unsuitable to the task, they were in the wrong careers, they shouldnt have been on the set at all. It’s the “casting couch” myth, all over again. A part of him still believes these actors and staffers should have submitted to the abuse and accepted his dominance of them. They should, he believes evidently, have “closed their eyes and thought of Hollywood”. (I dont know if you get that Victorian/British reference?)
Exactly!
Omg @TheBehavioralArts this video was so on point and calls Dan out so poignantly. Please keep contributing to a kinder society. We need this awareness! Thank you!❤❤❤
Still watching but boogy was an adult on iCarly. He worked at the smoothie shop the kids would go to