Body Language/Forensic Analysts EXPOSE Casey Anthony: Where the Truth Lies. Her Story CAN'T Be True
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- Опубліковано 5 січ 2023
- Did Casey Anthony lie about what happened to her daughter, Caylee, in the documentary "Casey Anthony: Where the Truth Lies"? In this video we dive into part 3 of the series and look at her version of events. What does her body language suggest, what parts of her testimony does she regret and what elements of her story directly contradict statements she previously made? Find out now.
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03:10 Is Casey Anthony Lying About Her Father?
07:20 Does This PROVE Her Guilt?
14:00 Why Would They Ask This?
20:39 Did George Anthony Confess?
27:00 This CANNOT Be True
33:25 Does Casey Regret Saying This?
38:18 Did She Just Expose Her Lie?
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I was a good friend of Casey's. She left Caylee with her dad ALL THE TIME to hang out with our friend group. That was a fucking lie and Casey is SICK.
Wow. 😯 What a valuable testimony. Can I ask, if you don’t mind sharing: what do you think happened here? Don’t need a definitive answer, I’dd love even just an impression.
If you get this notification as some don't come through and you don't mind me asking is her Dad going to sue her for these lies? She's really sick, it's disgusting to me. The whole thing is just horrific.
@@TheBehavioralArts I think Casey was doing what Casey does best. Making up bullshit lies to make herself the victim. When we asked Casey to bring Caylee to our apartment (bc we loved kids and we even kept books and toys in our home in case one of our friends wanted to bring their kid over) the answer was ALWAYS "Hell no, I need mommy time and if my parents will watch her then I'm letting them!" I don't know how Casey killed Caylee, but I'm positive the blood was on her hands. She was constantly pawning Caylee off to go party! She was KNOWN in the Orlando club scene and Caylee was a fucking burden to her! According to Casey her parents loved Kaylee immensely. Casey's objective was to take care of herself and herself alone. If somebody got in the way of Casey doing what Casey wanted to do, no they didn't. I was pregnant with my first child when Caylee was murdered by Casey. It definitely freaked me out when this happened but after seeing only a little bit of what they showed on TV I already knew that Casey definitely had both of her hands in this. Actually I think that the only reason that Casey decided to go on with her pregnancy with Caylee was because she wanted the attention that comes with being pregnant and having a newborn. That attention goes away after a little while and you no longer get that Rush of adrenaline that narcissists love to get by being showered with attention. Caylee no longer served her purpose. That's why Caylee is not here anymore. Do I know this to be a fact? No. But I do know Casey.
@@NicolaMaxwell I have no connection to anyone who would be able to answer this question anymore but if I had to guess I'd say yes.
@@kaleypittman1105 Thank you for sharing; love your insight being someone who knew her. it seems spot on what we see. I feel bad for her parents. She is trying to frame them, and even her brother now, just to keep the attention on HER as there was no need for this. i think most people know EXACTLY what she is and it's horrible that she got away with it, legally anyway..
Talking about the Google search...part of the footage they didn't show ,when her mom and dad are visiting her in jail, her mom asks her about the passwords for her accounts saying they need it to get video and pictures of Caylee and she very quickly dismisses it saying she's given all that info to Lee (her brother). So if they all shared a passwords then why would they be asking her for them and her refusing to give it claiming she gave it to her brother.
The way they skewed this docu-series is really crazy.
Accounts probably means things like email accounts, and they may be different from the computer's startup password.
I'm not taking a stance of her guilt or innocence here btw. just that this part could be reasonably explainable..
Personally, my family has the password to my computer, but not to my email account.. My kids play online games on my comp all the time.
@@a_diamond I'll have to go back and look at the clip to be sure ( I had saw it yesterday which is why I even thought of that). From the way i understood it it was the setup where on the computer you have accounts where you can have a password or not depending how you set it. I do specifically remember the way it was said was like everything that way hers was password protected which ur right makes sense for like emails and social media. But for prosecution and all to attribute those searches to her computer/Google account specifically seems like that fits in my head to the clip I'm thinking of especially when she would know her family was working with the police giving them things....BUT with all that said you could be right and I could he way off base. That's absolutely possible.
I think it hits me after refreshing myself on all the details of the case yesterday that there's alit of things that were important details throughout this series seems to just brush past or not address at all.
Sorry for the novel and thank u for the other perspective!
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@@a_diamond Oh like another detail was there were 3 searches that day from her computer/Google account it was like 7something AM search for "shot girl costume" then 2:50 "suffocation" 2:51 "foolproof suffocation"
So again it was like all these bits and pieces that when you put them all pointed to her. Same with the car they skipped over the dead body thing considering all the forensics there and the journal entry etc etc. Anyway yeah that's why I'm saying the way this doc presents it I see what ur saying where she gives an answer that most of us wouldn't think twice about cuz yeah my family knows my passwords hell even to most my personal accounts or they could easily guess them lol
But there's all this other little details and context that make it not make sense from what she's saying.
Ok I swear I'll shut up now lol
@@katekatangeleyes No no, you're fine. I don't mind long responses :) I agree there are a lot of details that seem "off" in this case in general..
I wonder why so much seems off.. not just about Casey, but about other family members too.. I don't know if it's just because of the way the footage was shot and framed, but I get a bad feeling from several people.. (to be fair, I actually am not overly familiar with this case. I like body language analysis but usually avoid cases like this, it upsets me too easily).
I think you're right that a lot of the footage shown here seems to lack logical followup questions that I'd expect though..
I hope they did a better job in court...
What’s still unbelievable is that the jury found her non culpable. At the very least neglect . It’s difficult to believe her after all the lies she has told .
Well, a jury can only deal with the information delivered at trial. The state wasn't able prove beyond a shadow of a doubt...I'm not defending Casey. Im just saying that what was presented in court wasn't enough for a jury to convict her. The state should've done a better job.
The jury was so negligent, blind, just like OJ trial.
Her attorney/Jury and this cruel self centered thing all deserve karma!!!!
@scullyfox4271
So I would understand a hung jury but innocent, not even negligent?
paid off jury
George was devastated from the loss of Caylee and also losing Casey who he believed was not capable of such horror. His actions completely support this - nothing he did was from guilt - it was from heartbreak and having to realize that his own daughter WAS a monster - one that he failed to recognize as a lawman and a father/grandfather
I think he recognized but he didn't think she was as bad as that it's hard to admit when you children aren't what you thought you raised but from what they were showing when does first happened he and his wife both were saying that she had been a problem the only reason that she took off with Kaylee to begin with was because she was fighting with her mother and she said she was going to keep her away from her mother because she knew how much Kaylee meant to her mother and her father she was using her as a tool to punish them
Yes, I agree. Then, she had to get Kaylee to sleep (in the trunk) while she played, and one time it was " oops gave the brat too much" then drove around, trying to figure out what to do. Hence the decomp smell....
I think
She drowned and they worked together. I don’t buy his polygraph. I think she’s remorseful. They are rotten.
My dad was crazy about my little girl I watched him melt when he first held her. Pop pops love their granddaughters more than life and so did Mr. Anthony. I have grands now and it’s really hard to even put in words how much you love them.
Yeah, he was recorded freaking out on camera saying they were gonna lose both of them after hearing the child was found dead . Casey was an absolute liar and got away with it .
Speaking as a mom, I don't see anything off about missing the smell of a child. How many times do we pick up an article of clothing and smell the person who wore it? We as humans have anchors to certain smells.
I agree! I'm not a Mum but I recognise there's almost a physical hunger for a smell of a loved one once they're gone
she tries to vilify basic human emotions
@@Sailors30 yes we do!
Agree. Our loved ones unique body scent, not BO, does evoke strong emotions. My niece and I were just discussing remembering my mother's scent who passed away 35 years ago. My niece was a child then. I think her father used the word sweat meaning Caylee's body scent.
Agreed! I lost my son in 2015 and I miss his smell. The comment does not send off warning bells for me.
If I was abused by a parent, no way in hell would I ever let them watch my child.
Sadly a lot do.
@@Princesssparkles2014 That's a sin.
I was. And you're right.
Exactly
I was abused that I know how it is you get brainwashed it's crazy
What I found interesting in this interview is that Casey never referred to her daughter as “Kaylee” by her name. She always used words such as “she”, “her” “my daughter” “child”, “kid”and etc. I think this would have been an interesting topic to elaborate on. From what I’ve heard, by not using her name she distances herself from Kaylee. It also caught my attention because this video was supposed to be about Kaylee, but not once did she use her name. very narcissistic and self centered. By the way great analysis and video!!
Exactly noticed that too a lot of criminal cases have this too
Spot on
Definitely distancing. Great catch!
Same as the Ramseys and jonbenet
100%
Who in hell doesn't report your toddler missing for 31 days unless you know where she is and happened
Yeah thats f up. She defenetly did something or she def know what did and who did. So f up. I spend every day of my life making sure my kids are happy loved and safe i cant wrap my head around this.. ,😢
She can call the police when a person threw water on her, yet she cannot call the police when her child disappear for days!
She did said it to her mom she told her that she was close in a phone call
@@tareginda so messed up. Beyond messed up. Poor little girl. ❤️ Horrible mother.. i would call the second any of my kids went missing. Im always with them outside playing even if its in our own backyard. Keeping them safe is my priority. As most it is for many mother unfortunately not for every mother 😢
They definitely didn’t have each other’s passwords. When her parents visited her in jail, they asked her for her computer password and specifically said they couldn’t get into her account, and she responded that she already “gave [her brother] everything.”
Also, why do you need someone else’s password if you all share the same computer? Just use your own.
what scares me is that when the most obvious facts can get twisted and fabricated, the truth is so egregious that it's denied. then imagine how many other cases could have been judged unfairly. It's really shocking to see a person who got away with murder sit in front of the cameras playing the victim. Not just a horrible mother to her child but a monstrous daughter to her father. and yet she didn't pay for her actions.
Narcissist never do. They're always held unaccountable which is what creates a narcissist in the first place
She's alone and hated, she's paying.
@@lubabe9969 No, I don’t think she is paying! Because I read that when she is out at night at clubs men have said she was pissed they didn’t recognize her. And said you don’t know who I am? I was under the impression she was going to change her name.
I remember watching an interview on TV over a decade ago that had me bawling. I don't remember who the woman was, but she had lost her 2 young sons in an accident. The mother was completely devastated while telling the interviewer that she hadn't washed all of the boys clothes. She said she could still smell her boys on their shirts - "like little boy sweat from running around all summer". George's comment seemed exactly the same to me.
I agree when u bond with a child there smell matters we only had our Sophie 225 min.and we washed nothing we can still smell her on her blankets so George isn't gilty
Casey told her family investigator that she was PLANNING to blame her dad and say that he assaulted her, because he was willing to testify against her. This whole thing is a sick response to the vendetta of a narcissist.
She claims to not remember the abuse until prison….but also says she wouldn’t let Cayley be around her dad because he was abusive…. So glad you mentioned this. I caught that too and feel like everything out of her mouth is total BS. I don’t think she was abused…I think she’s is just acting because she wants to be believed.
Also the leap from a grandpa saying a toddler's sweat is sweet, proves SA? He was weird and awkward, but parents sniff their kids all the time, because scent locks in our best memories. Doesn't prove SA does prove her mind is gross
Im sorry I’ve been a victim of abuse and I have kids and know what I went thru. I would never leave my child there know that happened to me!!!
@@johannyvallecillo4528I’m saying that her stories are inconsistent…if he was abusing her and she didn’t want to let the dad be around her (understandable) …then it doesn’t add up to what she said about not remembering the abuse until she was in prison…. If she didn’t remember until prison she wouldn’t have been protecting Cayley from him prior to prison. But I don’t believe Casey does anything but lie and make herself a victim.
on the missing the smells of loved ones topic, when my dad passed away my mom literally went through his things and bagged up the clothes he wore most often to preserve the smell of him although we had to clean out his room. we still have those specific pieces of clothing in bags because to her it's an important anchor. it's a piece of him that remains with us. it's really not that unusual to miss the smell of someone you love. at the end of the day we're animals, and scent lives at the core of our emotions and memories
I think this woman wandet to make money AND also feels and experiences HATE against her person wherever she goes and stands!!So she probably hoped with this Documentary she will get her self free of the hate and the disgust that people bring up against her person….and making money from it is wonderful for her 😢😢maybe enough to go start a new life somewhere in the world.
I DO believe with everything I gat…SHE murdered her little girl !!!
I also did the same thing when my husband passed..
The first thing she talks about after "needing to take a minute" after hearing her dad made the sweat comment and it was at the funeral, and she was able to really cry and show emotion, was the fact that she wasn't at the funeral she was locked up and I feel like that says it all, she's crying over the fact that she was in jail and didn't get to go to the funeral.. master manipulators pull emotion from actual events, good liars make lies up including true things so they can sell it theyre partially telling the truth and will remember how they felt she probably cried her eyes out all day in jail, shes not a victim of sexual abuse from her dad she's a scumbag liar and makes me sick
Yeah now she's trying to say her brother did stuff to her too she never brought that up in court she's trying to take her whole family down it's not bad enough that she let her daughter down now she's tearing her whole family down
My goodness, you are falling for her actions and emotions. Dad did not abuse her. It is made up. Smelling a child, I did everyone one mine and still have loving memories of their smell, clean, sweaty, and both smells combined. Old age, and still long for the smell of a small child.
Casey still embellishes
Oh, and those guys didn't live with Casey. They were her boyfriend's roommates - where she was basically "couch-surfing" at their apartment to avoid going home to her parents during the last 4 weeks before her baby was reported missing. The media always tries to trick us into believing these people were very close to Casey and knew her well. She'd only known them for 6 weeks and basically hid out at their apartment.
My whole problem is she is accusing her dad of all these things. Why did she never fight for her daughter. If she knows he’s abusive and took Caylee from her why is she not screaming from the rooftop to go after her father. Because she knows he didn’t do it and she did. Any mother wouldn’t be able to rest until their daughters killer was in jail
You cannot make sense of the lies a liar till she’s lying there’s no way to make sense of it it’s a waste of time even trying
, how is is that
Exactly
Agreed
Yeah, I definitely think she is telling partial truth in how Caylee died. She's lying about who did it. I have always said it seems as though Casey tried to make it appear as though Caylee was kidnapped. When she said something about her dad using a pillow to knock her out, knowing that Casey most likely performed the fool-proof suffocation search, connecting the dots, everything seems to make sense that Casey is the one who did it.
About the "fool-proof suffocation" search, that's the one big thing that convinces me more than any other single piece that Casey is guilty of *(something)* so yeah if I was Casey and I knew for a fact I didn't make that search I'd be on *fire* trying to prove who did. But she knows she did, so she can't be like that. She can only insinuate and/or suggest it was George, the scapegoat of her entire life.
Yeah it in the court case there was another search that was done that her mother took blame for and it was some kind of poison or something but her mother said she must have hit it when she was looking up something for plants which it never made sense when they brought that up in court when her mother says well I must have done it
What really disgusts me about Casey Anthony is she knows she has already gotten away with the death of her daughter whether she killed her on purpose or it was an accidental overdose to shut her up, she did it and got away with it. Now she is such a frikkin narcissist that she needs attention again and she is fine with continuing her little game of demonizing her Dad. God this girl makes my skin crawl. I pray she never has another child because I would fear for the safety of that child
Well said! I wish the judge had the option to have her sterilized.
This is even not normal to administer chloroform, WTF. She should be in prison.
I think she's guilty but her mindset fascinates me. Does she justify it to herself at all. Does she pretend to herself it was accidental or just compartmentalise & lock that memory away because it doesn't bother her, so she's not remorseful. I mean if we believe her story she left her child dead/dying in her Dad's arms & then disappeared for a month. A month & no contact!
the Fl Dept of child services found her guilty ........IMHO any child she has they would take right away
@@maryannenizio5074 she has another child now
Casey: she’s(Caylee) never been left alone with him(George)even as an infant.
Also Casey:I can’t believe he’s admitting he abused her.
Looooolllllll omg wow! GREAT point!!!
@@TheBehavioralArts
thank you Spidey ,
I know like you and Dr Das have said INCONSISTENCIES!! If I had stopped to point them all out I would still be typing 😂
Loved this series with Dr Das, both you and him bring so much to the table.
Keep up the great work!! :)
Not to mention from her story she left her home with her dad alone FOR A MONTH
I didn’t leave Caylee alone because I know what I went through. Versus, I didn’t remember what happened until I was in jail.
Which is it?
I lost my 3-year old son, 30 years ago. I loved putting my nose behind his neck and smell him (I would do that with my other kids too, when they were toddlers). As weird as that may sound, I am sure a lot of parents do that, and I think it has something to do with very primitive protective instincts (I could identify my child among many in the dark, by his smell). I still remember that smell today, it is deeply engrained in my mind, and thinking of it still gives me a sense of comfort.
Yes we totally love the smell of our kids and it must be something chemical because I couldn't tell you what they smell like but I know my brain picks something up from it. Also I could smell when my 3 year old daughter's pee was off before she even started having bladder infection symptoms and my son's sweat smells different when he's getting sick so it's a tool for us too.
I still do that with my 6 year old. It's a completely natural human response for a Mother. My condolences to you for the loss of your angel son.♥️
@@joanna0988 yep my son had a urine infection when he was young and I picked up on that before he showed any symptoms
@@NicolaMaxwell So crazy right? The doctor didn't believe me but ran the test anyways and sure enough she had a high count of bacteria grow.
@@joanna0988 Same, my boy had a urine infection. It's instinctive for us bonded Mum's. ♥️♥️
Omg she's awful. Imagine being her dad and hearing her accuse him of suffocating her with a pillow, insinuating he did the same to Caylee. Disgusting. And if this fantasy of hers were true and she was TRULY abused by her father, why lie and lie some more to mislead the police? Give me a break.
I wish I could put a million thumbs up to the opening sentence here.
Time to get Camille Vazquez on the case.
@@dolladollabillsyo7698 imagine being her dad and lying to the police, saying he missed the smell of Kaylees “baby sweat” AT HER FUNERAL, throwing fits of anger at the press on several occasions…not to mention he cheated on his wife and was lying about that too. ADD IN THE FACT that if Casey is such a horrible person, and such a liar (both things that I believe to be very true), then why ON GOD’S GREEN EARTH is everyone saying he’s a good guy, WHEN HE’S THE ONE WHO RAISED HER??? You know how parenting works right??
It's sad that her story holds together like "Swiss cheese" because we don't want to believe that abuse victims would willfully lie to falsely harm others. As we have seen in multiple cases in the Me Too movement, victimization is being weaponized for sinister ends in our culture right now. Who loses is true justice for Caylee in this life.
@@Sheseasyouthere True words. 👏👏👏
I do think that narcissistic people actually believe their lies. She is such a sick person. You guys are sooo good at breaking down her narrative. Excellent work!
She believes her own lies / BS.
Despicable 🤮
I’m a private investigator. I love your channel and you’re 100% right on your take on this evidence. I see everything you see and agree with your conclusions. Her “investigator” is an insult to our field.
Thanks for your input! Always appreciated 😊
I think the investigator is totally under the narcissistic spell. He sees her as a daughter. And a true narcissist can convince you of anything, even if it contradicts knowledge you already have. Even if it contradicts hard facts. Unfortunately I've lived it.
I'm really glad you provided insight from your field of expertise. I find it extremely strange the Private Investigator continued to maintain such a close relationship AFTER the verdict was received. I know occasionally law enforcement officers will check on a Victim of DV to see how they are doing. But I grew up in a rural area where there weren't Private Investigators. I understand the goal of a PI but in case like this one, I'm assuming he was hired by her attorney. So would he have spoken more to her attorneys or would he have spoken with her and her attorneys? Wouldn't she have provided these "alternative theories" to the PI or does a PI normally have initial questions they would ask to give them areas to explore?
Have you or any other Private Investigator checked in on clients after a case? If it has happened did it depend on the type of case? Idk I just feel it's a weird dynamic they have now.. Almost like he wants to take on the father/protector role of Casey now.
I'm just asking questions to clarify it for myself. I know some officers will keep in touch with a DV Victim to see how they are doing after filing a report. Sometimes they will check in on someone who they have been called out to their house several times - even if they didn't file a report. So I was just curious if Private Investigators ever do the same?
@@themslydia they live together. Pat McKenna was my neighbor for over 20 years. I think it's weird too. 😕
@@lilc5353 I really do feel sorry for you . She must have been your biggest nightmare whilst she lived near you . She doesn't care about her child . You could see that in her from the very start . She's proven that she couldn't care less about her child . It's terrifying to think of what she would do to anyone . She should be forcefully sterilised to save any other future generations from going through what she put her poor child through
It's so disturbing to watch Casey with her father. I almost thought she was laughing at his belief that they'd be together with Caylee at home again soon, but then turned it into a more socially acceptable crying expression, knowing she was being recorded. If she found it hilarious that her father thought he'd be with his granddaughter again... that's unfathomable cruelty.
The web search she made is so damning, too. Her lies are really falling apart now. It's a shame she will probably never face justice for all of her crimes.
I thought the same, i know nothing about this case and that smiled looked like dupers delight, like “yeah there’s no way were all going to be together again’ but then quickly to ooops i better look sad
Agree it is dishonest to pretend that this is an admission of abuse. It's just not true!
@Emily Bennet reason #125,963 to not have children IMO. Just because you birth them, doesn't mean they have to be nice to you.
Casey has Oedipus complex for sure. Gross.
It’s even more horrible when you know that he tried to kill himself after they found Caylee’s body. All the while she knew that she was dead.
And now that he is recovering from a serious accident and incapable of even properly defending himself, she’s out with this documentary to put the blame on him.
She’s disgusting! She probably couldn’t wait for him to die before blaming him for it.
Seconding many of the comments wishing for more collabs between the two of you, you guys are excellent together. Highly complementary brainwaves, hehe.
And I was literally doing finger guns at the screen when Spidey mentioned her narcissism couldn't accept an 'accident' scenario.
Yay! Glad to see Dr Das again! 🙌 such a great collaboration yet again
As a mother, I think the father meant when he spoke about the smell of her sweet sweat, he was talking about her baby scent. It’s a certain thing only parents would understand. For instance I loved the smell of my son when he was a baby, a toddler, it calmed me and it’s because of our connection being flesh and blood, and him being my child, I miss his baby scent. He’s 5 now and sometimes he still cuddles with me at night time and I fall asleep cuddling him, because he’s my boy and it’s a comfort. And then an hour or so later I wake up and go to my room, but i think that’s what her father meant when speaking about Caylee, just I think he was trying to be poetic about it.
I think most normal people understand what George meant, especially with a toddler always out playing in the hot Florida weather. It’s only weirdo Casey that invented 15-20 people, places and events to cover up what she did to that poor kid. George feels like a failure as a grandparent and he feels like he let Caylee down, and now she’s gone.
So true. I can remember the smell of my little newborn sweating against my breast as I nursed him and he is a whole man of age 22 now.
I absolutely agree. The only thing a little odd is using the word "sweat", but I imagine that's just a guy thing.
I completely agree that this was a reach. I love cuddling with my daughter and smelling her scent.
Smell is a very big deal for those who actually are normal and have LOVED a child. When my sister's 12 week old baby passed away, one of the first things my sister said was "I just want to crawl into her crib so I can smell her". At the time I didn't get her comment, but now after having three children of my own, I do get it. Casey Anthony won't have a beautiful life like her tattoo says. Everyone knows she's a murderer-it's showing on her face.
I still cannot believe she was found not guilty.
It’s upsetting, but I understand why. There cannot be a reasonable doubt. We don’t know what happened exactly, how she died, when she died, who knew, who placed her there at the swamp. If it cannot be proved beyond any reasonable doubt the she did kill Caylee alone, herself, the instruction to the jury is that they cannot convict. The state did not have enough information, they did not do a thorough investigation, and because everything was based on suspicion and logic, not actual evidence, she was let off. Trust me, the jury knows she very probably did it, but very probably without evidence is not death penalty material.
@@alexys72904 People fail to get this with court cases often. A jury has to be not just sure but certain of their decision. Especially with murder and the death penalty, it has to be unanimous as well. Is it likely Casey is at least involved in her daughter's death? Sure. Is it certain beyond a reasonable doubt that she intentionally murdered her daughter and then covered it up? Not at all. Court is exactly where such a distinction matters.
Not only that, but they were trying to prove first degree, capitol murder (premeditation and intent). They should’ve gone with manslaughter if they wanted a conviction. But I totally agree with you that I can’t believe she wasn’t convicted.
@@Tixchix This is an issue with greedy convictions. It reminds me of the case of Chauvin. All the lawyers observing the case said that trying to get him for 1st degree murder was a dead case, and that's why there was a brief panic when it seemed prosecution would push for that. Sometimes you gotta know what your evidence is going to support. Manslaughter would definitely have worked since the end decision was 'she accidentally drowned due to negligence', but the prosecution tried to go for 'she drowned the child on purpose' and there just wasn't sufficient evidence for that.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit I thought the jury could convict of any lesser included offense. It seems kind of silly that you would just let a person go on about their business if you're SURE they're in some way responsible for another human's death, but just aren't sure about some of the details such as pre-meditation.
Loveeeeee the collaboration, you guys are very informative and easy on the eyes.. thank you for your video!!!
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I actually grew up with an abusive dad and I have a 3 yr old boy now and I imagined that my son was gone and there was even a chance my dad had typed that into a computer and I actually ended up having hard, semi labored breathing FOR REAL. Just thinking about it.
Sorry you felt that, but what a powerful testament. That; I believe would be the reasonable response! It will never make sense to me that that’s not where her mind went and she’s just casually going “nope, wasn’t me, next question please”
The thing is, I don’t always think we should believe victims if they’re prone to lying and acusing people often. She’s been known to accuse innocent people all the time, and she’s a chronic liar. I think it’s safe to have some doubts when she’s claiming something like this, because it came out of nowhere and ALSO she’s lied before about a Nanny stealing her kids when said Nanny didn’t even know her.
Always assuming someone’s telling the truth about abuse, leads to people saying they’re guilty before proven innocent, and it can ruin lives.
She lied about way more than that. This woman is no victim. She got away with murdering her own child.
Not necessarily. Bad things can happen to liers too.
This! It baffles my mind that people don't talk about her being convicted on four charges of lying to police. She Is LITERALLY a convicted liar (×4)!
I believe human nature includes being prone to lying, and only the most idiotic and gullible person imaginable would “believe all victims” before their victim hood is even established. No damn common sense in this propagandistic catchphrase “believe all victims”. None whatever.
@@poci1211good. I want bad things to happen to liars.
To say he was “abusing” her just because he loved her sweaty smell, is absurd. Half the mom’s would be guilty. My daughter-in-law loves the smell of stinky baby’s feet. I think she protests too much. I believe their is some hidden jealousy against Caylee going on, she was no longer daddy’s little darling.
Exactly. She was literally disgusted when people showed concern about Caylee. Her friend was hysterical and Casey got annoyed with her.
💯 I have 3 teenagers and I often say I miss their “puppy breath and stinky baby feet”. Even now each one has their own smell.
I think when it's a smell from a cute kid or even a cute animal, it just doesn't seem like it's that unpleasant, it somehow just goes along with the cuteness, I have no idea why
This analysis and collab was so great. It was really interesting to see Dr. Das' opinion especially because there is such a closeness between your two fields. The overlap of your fields and knowledge really creating some great information and opinion between the two of you. It also helped reaffirm a lot of your guys' opinions which is always helpful. Obviously we all respect Spidey a heck of a lot, but it always helps to have another respectable opinion that can support yours. Great content! Great analysis! Just great!
Please keep up the amazing work you do! and I hope the community continues to be insightful and respectful and just truly amazing!
Another fantastic analysis from both of you!! Thank you!
She wouldn’t be living with her dad as an adult ESPECIALLY having a little girl herself if he did what she said he did. She’s so disgusting!
It's possible. I know someone who was SA'ed by her grandfather as a kid (as were her siblings & cousins, though nobody knew about the others until decades later), and she moved in with that grandfather when she moved back to the home area in her mid 20s. A lot of people try to push memories from childhood so far down they deny their existence to themselves, as if it was a bad dream instead of reality. That said, Casey's stories just don't add up. Maybe she was abused, but she's lied about so much so easily that I disbelieve this also.
I know, this is why she states her father only started coming to her room when she was older, to make the lie more believable,
When I was a kid my mom never let me go to my cousin's house to play no matter how much I begged (they had cool toys). When I was older I found out my uncle had molested her and many other kids in the family.
My ex was previously married. His ex said she was abused by her father and found out through repressed memory therapy. Yet, she sent their daughter to vaca with the same person she said abused her. Exactly why you can call b.s. The fake abuse claim is an attention grabber.
Not unless he completely broke her down mentally and had that control over her , thats possible and she like many of yall turn away from harsh truth even if its in your face lmao.
She said to her parents in one of her jailhouse phone calls she had JUST given her brother Lee all of her passwords over the phone while she was in jail, so people didn't know each other's passwords before she was arrested. Casey made those searches, there's no doubt.
Besides, the Search was Googled at __:51 & George lived 10 minutes from work. So...he initiated Search at 9min until the hour, read articles, went on Social Media Site, hopped in truck, & made it to work to clock in to begin shift on the hour? Really? All that done in 9 minutes incl a 10 minute drive? Seriously??
Interesting...retrial ??
Always looking forward to these!
Thank you both for your input! Love learning about this😊
I have no degree BUT I have been around MANY people who DO NO wrong. They are able to lie right to your face and with fierce indignation because you don’t go along with them and praise them in the process. I see in her the anger she has against her father. He has been outspoken on many interviews that he believes she had ‘something’ to do with his granddaughter’s death. Casey has been stewing all these years….. not over the tragic death of her daughter but because her Dad has said things about her and she is getting back at him.
As a mother and grandmother, when George mentions the sweet smell of her sweat, to me he's saying that he loved her so much that everything about her was precious to him including something like even her sweat. I can totally relate to this. Example; when a widow keeps a husband's shirt for the smell. Nothing sexual about this.
My dad abused me as a child, and honestly I didn’t remember until I became pregnant at 20. Repressed memories. But growing up, even before thinking about kids, and remembering things, I KNEW my dad would NEVER be left alone with my kids. No matter what. Anyone else experience something like this? This makes me feel like she’s a liar
I love your material! Do you have videos of current interviews, where you project the outcome ahead of time?
There's a reason they didn't show the full quote from her father. While it was kind of weird and creepy thing to say, in the actual quote it was in the context of his granddaughter coming in from playing outside. Everything she says is these little half-truths and its infuriating.
It’s very telling that she chose now to drop this. Even at the beginning of the documentary the people filming ask Casey how she feels about having this documentary coming out that she doesn’t have any control over. Like…why did they come right out of the gate announcing to the viewers that Casey had no say in how they edited this documentary, or the questions asked? To me it was suggestive. We are living in a time of narcissistic liars and I think she is SICK of being a pariah and holing herself up away from society. We’ve got a lot of nasty people getting passes right now and are thriving and I think they thought “oh they’ll believe her in this environment”.
I remember my son coming in from playing outside on a hot day, all dirty and sweaty, he'd have a sippy cp of juice on my lap and fall asleep, I remember how he smelled and brushing his sweaty hair off his face as he slept....I so miss those precious times. Anyone who has loved a toddler understands what he is missing!
@@lmm8960can't believe anything they tell you are on TV all documentaries have to go through the lawyers of the people that are doing them or a contract of some kind usually so we know that she knew what was coming up they usually make an agreement on what questions can be asked and what ones can't
@@lmm8960they actually did have very directed questions. The interviewer was not allowed to stray from the questions. Nancy Grace was initially contacted about this project and she declined to participate because she couldn't ask her own questions.
I interpreted this "comforting smile" she had briefly during the talk with her father as "aha, I have you fooled, I know she's not coming back!" And then she realized she wasn't supposed to smile so she made a concerned face.
i thought thing! that mouth cover was to hide a smile and the scrunch was to try and stop it
sadly me too, I always had the feeling she knew during that conversation
Did she give a dupers delight type of smile??
Duping delight indeed
After watching other channels on body language you are so clear and precise. Thank you for doing what you do.
Once again, an excellent video! Thanks Spidey!
Hey Behavioral Artists! I really hope you enjoyed this analysis. I am particularly excited about the massive contradictions in the conversation she has with her interrogator friend right at the end.
Remember to head over to Dr. Das’ channel to watch the rest of this analysis, he really has some astounding observations and insight: ua-cam.com/video/-CTJPz0-L2c/v-deo.html
Absolutely loved the series, thank you so much. Subbed to Dr Das, great content there too. You guys are a great duo!♥️♥️
I've fallen in love with behavior analytics for the exact reason that this video is SO important. While we can't conjure proof or evidence from interviews like this, the public is so often manipulated into one belief or another while ultimately there's so much more information right in front of us. Caylee deserves for these questions to be asked, at the very least. Thank you for what you do!
Thank you for having Dr. Das again. He is very insightful. I subscribed to his channel after you had him weigh in last.
I would be interested in hearing your analysis on the Casey Kasem family drama. Possible topic for the future. I watched the documentary and am torn.
I don’t remember, but was water found in Kayleighs, lungs from the autopsy, and if water was found, could they determine if it was pool water or bath water? If no water was found, then did she die by suffocation 47:09
For most of Kaylee’s life Casey lied to her parents saying she had a job and a nanny for Kaylee.
For the 30 days after Kaylee’s death she told her parents Kaylee was with her, doing fine but not available to see or talk to them. Furthermore, all of her friends reported that she was in good spirits and acting totally normally while she participated in the hot body contest, slept over at her boyfriend’s, and got a new tattoo.
When her mother tracked finally her down she lied to her family and the police saying Zanny the Nanny kidnapped Kaylee. Including all sorts or ridiculous details l, including multiple addresses, Zanny’s family members, down to the floral fabric on the car seat Zanny supposedly used for Kaylee. She even claimed to have spoken to Kaylee on the phone a short time before.
At trial she told the story that Kaylee accidentally drown in the pool, and her father disposed of the body in the most bizarre and illogical manner. First letting her decompose in Casey’s trunk, before wrapping her in a bunch of items from the house, putting duct tape over her mouth, and dumping her in a field 1/4 mile down the road.
Now she’s saying her father SA’d her for years, smothered her multiple times as a child, killed Kaylee, staged a drowning, googled how to suffocate someone, then staged a murder in the way he disposed of her body.
That’s a lot of different narratives to keep track of…
Disney pays entry level, live at home employees enough to afford a nanny. 🤔
All the lies, all the bizarre scenarios. None of it makes any sense. Her behavior when her Mom tracked her and the car down and demanded answers. I think if it hadn't been for the Mom frantically trying to find her Grand-daughter, Casey would have continued dodging the truth for a lot longer. Her daughter was already dead, but parents had to go and ruin everything. She never appeared to be sad about her daughter being gone. To me that was a red flag. And how the stories keep changing. So which one is it Casey? Answer the questions, stop dodging and manipulating the narrative. I followed this whole case from the start. I still feel disgusted at her not guilty verdict. There was no justice.
Exactly- she told her mom she had the daughter - if her dad had her ahhh he won is 31 days would have suspected that
Yeah she can say anything she wants now even if we find proof that she was the one that did it she can't be charged again I'm just wondering if she is doing all of this because she wants to go after her father for money are you accusing him of doing this it would not surprise me because she's very angry he doesn't speak with her anymore and she used to have him wrapped around her finger
Thank you Dr. Das for your opinions and knowledge on this case. Ty Spidey, for having him on the show. This series was very important. I'm a psychiatric Registered Nurse and I appreciate having a psychiatrist on the show for accurate information.
This is great! Love this channel!!!
As someone who was abused by my uncle, when I had to move back into the family home where I knew he was going to be present at times, I was hyper vigilant that my children were never EVER out of my sight when he was around. As fucked up as it is that I tolerated him being around me in a group family context, I was aware at all times where he was relative to them. I stopped protecting myself from him because he couldn’t hurt me anymore, my whole protective instinct was directed towards them. I know the psychology of abuse is complex but How did she not demonstrate a shred of protection ?
Because none of hers really happened. She’s a notorious liar who can’t be trusted to voice true stories at any time. I’m sorry no one told you. You can’t compare your story to hers because hers is a complete fable.
I agree I was abused when I was young and she doesn't act like someone that was and now she's trying to say she didn't allow the baby around him at all by himself that's contrary to what both of her parents said they always had Kaylee I just don't believe a word this girl says and I think she should have been put in jail the sad thing is I read somewhere or something that she had twins now or something I don't know where I read it I can't remember but I hope it's not true
Case Anthony just confessed to her crime in this Doco.
Take out George Anthony’s name and she’s told you what happened.
If you want to convince everyone the real way Caylee died, tell the truth, but put yourself in the 3rd person and blame someone else for your actions.
Casey suffocated Caylee with a pillow.
Put her in the pool to make it look like an accident.
Held her and cried.
Heard her mother in her head blaming her and saying she’ll never forgive her and she’ll go to jail for neglect. So she changed her mind about telling everyone she drowned in the pool.
Then she took her away and disposed of her body.
That's actually a strong case, it's common for narcissists or cluster B personality disorder people to do just that.
I disagree. She has duct tape on her mouth. She silenced that baby in the back of her car so that she could party. She died and stunk up the car. She dumped the body near the house. She got the idea of the pool from all the news reports speculating.
@@idneilkell She probably put the duct tape on after she smothered her to ensure she died, then dunked her in the pool. She did Google fool proof ways to suffocate someone!
She couldn’t mention it in the interview because it’s admitting that there WAS duct tape on her mouth. Which she denied the whole time. The pool is neither here nor there, I believe she’s admitting to murder and she didn’t drown in that pool.
She was found with heart stickers from the house over duct tape. I think Casey sedated her and taped her mouth shut, put her in the trunk to party and Caylee died. Hence the smell of decomposition.
This actually makes sense 😢
Spideeeeey I love your videos. They're amazing, hope you can add Spanish subtitles soon so your international fans can also learn from your analysis. Once again. Amazing!!
We love Dr Shahom Das here in the UK! I found your channel through his channel. I'd like to see more collaborations between you two.
Yaaaay, so great that Dr Das is back again. Yous make a great analytical duo!
Yes!😍
I agreee!!
Agreed!!!
You're starting another me too movement lol.
I am so glad that you guys touched on how invested a liar can be in their lie, to the point the emotions behind it are real. I'm thinking part of this stems from narcissistic traits but a lot of the genuineness of that emotion is from a place of self pity and thinking how dare they not believe me. I'm sure she is genuinely hurt that her parents, in her mind, put her daughter first. It's almost like they go into survival mode and for her, lying is certainly a life or death situation. We are programmed to survive. Morals fall away. I think this is why she (and many others) can lie so authentically. She is outraged and grieving it's just not for any of the right reasons but man she can open the tap anytime. Scary stuff.
lie till you die. That's the narcissist way of life
I've known one person who did this. I was completely drawn into the lies and the emotion was so real! It was unbelievable when I found out. The lies were so outrageous but good at the same time.
She doesn't lie "authenticically." She just lies. I don't believe a word.
I know someone that’s been doing that for 35 years. I think they tell themselves lies so long, they actually begin to believe it. People throw the word narcissist around to the point they truly do not understand what a danger a narcissist can really be, especially to those that are the closest to them.
Yesssss!! Love the colab and expertise from both you beautiful gentlemen
you guys are great at what you do!!! love your channel!!!
I wonder what the doctors thoughts on the idea that a pathological liars' ability to lie more convincingly would improve with age and life experience. Do these people actually come to believe their own lies? Love your analysis guys!
I totally believe that they do believe their own lies, but underneath it all know the truth! Most definitely!
They convince themselves so much that their own brain changed to match the lie as the truth
I have a close relative with whom I had a long term custodial battle. (Obviously I cannot go into details.) This person built a world of lies to defend the behavior, and tear down myself in an, at times, vicious manner. It was terrifying to me as this person absolutely believed these lies and so was completely convincing- even to those who knew it was lies. Years later this person has done enormous amounts of work, had grown tremendously yet still has trouble facing the truth. The world of lies was so real that, even in the face of several witnesses to the truth, this person cannot accept personal responsibility when it gets most difficult.
It differs between specific personality disorders, but remember that this is a learned behavior with Anthony. It has worked for her vehemently in the past, therefore she continues to do it. Regardless, Casey is acutely aware of reality, the effect of her actions, and the difference between right and wrong. There are a plethora of interesting studies on the capabilities of conning other's without regard, specifically those in the Cluster B category/high in these traits.
This has been fascinating. I'm a legal academic, so particulary interested in the behaviour of the attorneys involved. Thanks Spidey.
I love that you did this video and made it so clear. The contradictions were driving me crazy while watching it but I was struggling to exactly explain it and line them up. I was trying hard to be objective and put her story together and see the probability but every time I would get stuck because this than why that. The abuse idea had to come after or her earlier words and actions would have been different.
I have just discovered your YT and its amazing, so interesting and so glad I found you.... also looooove Dr Das! WOW what a team :)
Dr. Das is probably my favorite guest you've had on your channel, and that's saying something because you've had so many amazing guests!
We can competently take the "we all had everyone's passwords" off the table. That is a LIE!! During her prison video calls Casey is giving her brother Lee all her passwords, including her MySpace password. She also gives her Mom Cindy her passwords, even spelling them for both of them. WHY is she giving them and spelling her passwords to her family if they all already knew each others passwords? It's just another lie that Casey tells. Try again Casey.
The prison videos are more than 1 month after the google search / myspace activity. Also, the willingness to share passwords (even there's an implication of expectation that they would amongst each other) shows that it was common in their family to share passwords. The fact that she needed to "give them passwords" doesn't mean "they already knew" was false. It's very easy to imagine a scenario where the passwords changed between the day the searches were made and the day she discussed passwords from prison prompting them to ask her to share.
Also, even in the prison video where she knows she's being recorded and the videos can reach the public (ua-cam.com/video/wUhkM4Qj3dM/v-deo.html) she gives her (very simple, low-security) password.
So, sorry -- this just sounds like a petty objection to her narrative. There's a lot of scenarios where she's 1) truthful that they knew her password and 2) she still needed to share her passwords with them from prison.
Casey can't control what questions her parents would ask..they know they r being recorded. Playing devils advocate...could the father and mother been covering themselves by using this question as a pawn..as reasonable doubt? ...just critical thinking.
@@britbrat4559 that's not critical thinking. That's reaching on a whole other level.
Another excellent analysis!
Thank you as always for your clarity and intuition take care
I watched a TV series with Marsha Clark from the OJ Trial and ever since Marsha covered all of the details and lies that Casey told to so many different people and the police. There is no way that Casey is innocent. Way to many dots connect her to the crime. Now watching you Spidey really makes her 💯 guilty. It's just sad that she'll never go to prison or DP for the crime she committed 😔
That was a good series!
*Marcia
@@mininjas do you know the name?
@@redd1799 Marcia Clark investigates the first 48: Casey Anthony
Ok one glaring contradiction that you didn’t see in your clips- is that- in one of these episodes of the documentary- she claims she NEVER told her legal team exactly what happened that day when Caylee “disappeared”. Yet- in his opening statement- Jose Baez said that George was holding Caylee wet and heavy from the pool- screaming “look at what you did! This is your fault- your mother will never forgive you.” Which is the EXACT story she tells that happened that day during this documentary- almost word for word. Although Jose said Caylee drown in the pool and she is now saying that never happened. But my point is- if she never told her legal team that story- how did Jose come up with that story word for word what actually happened? Ughhhhh she is such a liar/contradictor!!! It gets me so upset. I cry every time I think of what she did to Caylee. I want to think it was an accident- but the duct tape over the baby’s mouth, and the “fool proof suffocation” search tells me otherwise. I’m a mom- and I cannot imagine how she could do that to such a sweet little doll face!!! Love you Spidey & Dr. Das you are amazing! Great team! Great videos!!! ❤❤ ❤❤
So weird. Wouldn't someone immediately call the cops/911? George screaming that out instead of "CALL 911" makes it sound fake.
@@maureenc1284 exactly!!! Nothing Casey says makes any sense!!!
Great vid again! Awesome work. It's so bizarre to me that her and/or people around her, thought it was a good idea to change the story, let alone in this way. Idkw they were thinking smh. It's tough to imagine they think this is convincing, right? So weird
Yeah man. Totally agree
Thank you for continuing this mini series and also bringing back Dr. Das, I really love the two of you as a duo and the fact that are you both so respectful toward the topics while trying to remain neutral.
Personally, I don't see anything odd about the grandpa saying he missed the smell of Caylee's sweat at least not odd in like a sexual way. As a mother, if I thought even for a second that my child was in danger, even if I was in jail I'd be fighting for my child and before that there is no way I'd be partying for a month while my child is MIA or possibly dead. She just feels very fake like AH to me no matter how hard I desperately try to believe her.
Oh my gosh I have been refreshing all morning waiting for this 😆 thanks, spidey! You've done an incredible job with this series. So excited to see Dr Das back!!!! Checked out some of his videos, and they're incredible. I love having the psychiatry aspect looked into as well as the behavioral.
I'm excited to see where you found a new inconsistency!!!
In my opinion, Casey Anthony truly believes in and abides by the idea of, as Fall Out Boy once said, “I don’t care what you think, as long as it’s about me,” 😂
Great guest! Great video!
I love how you say "button"
If everyone had each other’s passwords Casey could have used anyones password on her computer to log in and to search her devious searches. She didn’t because she was already logged in and didn’t think it would come down to that. She thought time was helping her case. She thought because it had been a month since her daughters death that they wouldn’t be able to get all the evidence. Truth is it did hinder the evidence. However you cannot explain away the duct tape on caylees mouth , the happy face sticker , the blanket she was wrapped in, t smell in her car which is very different than the smell of garbage, the lies about her job and the nanny , the partying and wet T-shirt contest when she knew her daughter was missing , etc etc it’s all damning evidence that Casey did this, she knew she could lead the police on a goose chase and deter them from getting the evidence. She is a pathological liar.
Talking again from a mom perspective… I found out two years prior to having my first child that my father in law had allegedly abused my sister in law. Since finding that out I was paranoid about him, and that went through the roof after having my son when mama goose and mama bear instincts really started kicking in. And after finding out I was going to have a daughter, I’m even more on edge, though we burned that bridge with my husband’s father. I have vowed to never let him see my children. So… I find it hard to understand why Casey still allowed her father to be near Caylee. That part doesn’t compute, and also, the images of her out partying. If I were Casey Anthony I wouldn’t allow anyone else to care for my child unless I absolutely had to. Or I should say, I don’t let other people watch my children unless I absolutely have to. And even then I looked for the soonest available nightshift so that they would never have to be with anyone else other than myself or their dad and grandma. But Casey didn’t have those trust issues to begin with…. I know you try to say that we should never not believe when someone claims abuse, but when certain behaviors contradict what she claims, it’s a little hard to be on board. I’m sorry.
im really sorry you had to deal with this. casey said, she was uncomfortable with having her dad in her daughters presens, but on the other hand, she just revocered these abuse memories in jail. doesnt add up what she says…
My best friend was abused by her own father as a child. He PROMISED her he wouldn't do it again to anyone and she allows her daughter to spend nights there. I've tried to gently hint that it's a bad idea and she adamantly defends him so I could see how an abused person still falls for the abusers lies 😢😢
I knew a girl that was abused by her pop and yet she would still go and see him, she ran into him at the mall and gave him a kiss on the mouth, I was shocked and couldn’t understand it, well when she had a baby and still didn’t cut him out , I parted ways with her.
I have thought about it a lot and my conclusion is some can’t walk away from their family, she was so broken and dependent on them. I have not seen any family for 20 years and I KNOW how hard it is to be alone. 99% do not understand how hard it is.
@@joanna0988 instead of just hinting to your friend maybe hint to social services or something… you could be the person that makes a difference in the child’s life.
@@aubreygraham981 You want me to report something that I don't know is happening? The Canadian version of CPS was useless when I reported what my daughter's friend told me about being molested by a step parent and that definitely didn't improve the child's life. My daughter and I gave filmed statements, there were interviews, I was threatened by the child's mother and then when the police said the child didn't use the right words so there was no case the family moved out of the province and I have no idea where they went.
I know this is probably a strange stance to take with this but as I am about 6 minutes in, I am just loving the attentiveness of Dr Das to Spidey. It's so lovely to see! Not only is he paying attention but I feel like I can see him REALLY taking it in, he really looks to me as if he's truly immersed in learning what Spidey is explaining and it comes with an air of great respect, and I see this flow both ways between you both.
Absolutely loved this coverage, best body language specialist on YT in my opinion! And I must thank you for introducing me to Dr Das! I am also British, but he literally has the EXACT career role I am aiming for, so it is really refreshing and informing for me, thank you for featuring him! And for your continued hard work and respect toward your analysis'.
"conspiracy theory" VS "occam's razor" is such a clever and useful way to get a an idea of how someone's brain works, I loved learning this!
Your whole series of videos on the Casey Anthony's case was one of my favorite analysis!!
I would love to see some more videos of yours teaching "mentalist" tricks on how to read people :)
Actually as a seasoned accountant, I found it confusing. I am an accountant and also believe in most conspiracy theories. LOL.
Let's acknowledge the fact also that she's 36 years old and ten or more years later she's still living with the man from her legal team like she's still in need of shelter. Why would she still be there? Maybe your analysis of his capacity for thinking about this objectively explains that. I think he's easily manipulated, and as a narcissist and a manipulator she latched on to him. It's almost like she needs to have someone in her pocket who makes her feel believed.
Absolutely narcissists need constant validation and adoration
Good point, I feel bad for her Pat McKenna 😕 😔
you must have missed that she does NOT still live with him. the documentary said she lived with him until she got her own place
This whole analysis was so incredibly fascinating! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I think the comment about George missing the smell of Caylee’s sweat set Casey off, because smell is such a strong memory and it hit home for Casey. She actually remembered it as well and felt loss when recalling the smell.
I truly can not believe she was found not guilty. It’s sickening.
3:12 I really like you and Sohom together, it is so well rounded! Thanks for bringing him back for this!
Yeah I would go savage over the search also!! This is entire episode is on point. Thank you both!
Babies literally emit a certain smell that makes adults feel closer to them. It's evolutionary adaptation that makes adults feel a dedication to take care of them. Surprisingly, humans are not considered to have natural maternal/paternal instincts, so it's a necessary physiological survival mechanism. For sure, creeps who prey on children exist, but non-creep adults will notice and appreciate that near-indescribable scent, too.
Honestly that part about the sweet sweat comment was soooo staged it felt incredibly deceptive. Obviously Casey has watched the funeral footage, I simply don't believe she never watched it. Also, with the piano and emotion the comment seems creepier than it actually was. I watched the full tape without the framing and it's not that weird. It's obviously a clumsy poetic illustration. He was talking about Caylee getting him to play with her even when he was tired and playing outside and then he said "the smell of her sweet sweat when she came in from outside" which sounds like poetic description albeit awkward. Also, he said that a hug from a child gives him energy which Casey flipped out about that he was admitting he was a pedophile. If you watch the whole tape, he was talking about her getting him to play even when he was tired so it wasn't weird.
Where can this apparent information be found? I've heard it before but anecdotally and not as scientific fact. I have an almost almost 2 year old that I would walk through fire for but I have no Idea what this "smell" is that I hear people talk about lol.
It's baby smell and unless it's overwhelmed by vomit or poop or pee, it's a happy smell
That sounds like a fancy way of trying to restate the fact that babies smell nice as if it’s a scientific hypothesis. I think they smell how they do, and the positive associations are because they’re babies and we like them. But if you need science to justify liking babies, go for it I guess. Seems like common human decency to me.
@@citychicken9949 you know when your baby falls asleep on your lap and gets a bit sweaty and you snuggle them and you can smell the baby sweat? That’s what I was thinking of anyway!
Yay! I just got to finish watching this one! And I'm thrilled because I said ever since this happened, she went with the accident theory because her narcissism will not let her be seen as a neglectful mother!! You took the words right out of my head. Now I know I'm on the right track with her.
I watched the George Anthony interview and was left with more questions!! Just as you mentioned, so much details on all of it . We appreciate you always taking the time to digest it as much as you have. :)
Good episode.
I have an incredibly hard time finding her emotion genuine. I really, truly can't believe she is telling the truth about her father. I think maybe she's telling the truth about her brother mostly because she'd mentioned that to somebody before this all happened. But I think she is using other trauma, or sadness for herself to evoke these emotions. Maybe I'm just being biased but it's so hard for me to feel like she's being truthful about that.
I think (for me at least) it's the classic 'well if she's lied about everything else, why should we believe this?'. It's also weird to me how she was so firm and insistent in 'no, my brother never raped me. absolutely not. no. never.' with a tone that it's an absurd thought, but then goes on to say that he may as well have, in a really odd shift in tone, that almost implies 'well, what's the difference'. I would think those emotions would either be consistent with 'yeah, he touched me inappropriately, but that was it,' or 'technically no, but it was so traumatic and painful, and I felt so scared and betrayed by someone loved, why does it matter what the exact definition is?'.
Trauma and healing is absolutely complex, so maybe she does flip-flop about how she feels and thinks about it, but I'm with you in finding her only sad for herself, and very hard to believe.
I totally agree! I think that she was a total daddy's girl and she was outraged and genuinely crushed that he did not have her back unconditionally. I think it broke her narcissistic self image so much that she found all the justification she needed to go after him with a well of emotion to draw on from it.
Yet she asked, actually demanded to see her brother, during one of her parents visits . By this time it seemed she was angry with her parents because she didn’t feel that they were supportive.
This documentary was all over the place. Honestly, in my opinion, she came out of this seeming more suspicious.
I can’t believe her either. Noting she says makes sense to me and I feel like this whole documentary, all of her emotions are about herself.
She is angry and upset that she sat in jail and that people don’t believe her. She doesn’t care about her daughter at all.
You guys are freaking phenomenal. I WISH that Spidey could end up interviewing her one day. I know thats wishful thinking but still. Omg. I wish the ppl talking to her would have conducted this in such a way that straight sense and facts were tactfully thrown at her because its clear to me that they had a ridiculous narrative. The questions were so blah with Casey running the show. I guess that's why I wish Spidey or Chase could somehow follow up bc they know what to do.
Ditto to that..
I'd love to see her being interrogated about this... send in Greg Hartley
I’m waiting for her to explain how it is she was so terrified and abused yet she chose to live with her parents as an adult and leave them to care for her frequently like come on
That slow blink looks like a half eye roll as well.. like she's thinking "don't ask me this, stop talking"..
Thank you so much Spidey and Dr Das! Fascinating series. You guys rock!🤗♥️
Can't wait for your take on this. I think she's a pure and pathological liar.
I think she's worse than that 😢
One of the big inconsistencies she made is she said she never left him alone with her. But she also said she was supposed to be with him for 31 days. It just all these little lies makes it hard to believe her. She said she’s blunt but has been caught lying
One of Casey's friends in a documentary said that 'Zany the Nanny' was a reference to giving kids Xanex to keep them sedated while partying. Wish they had looked into that. Absolutely revolting.
That is so dark and repulsive. I already had a bad image of her but all of this makes it so much worse.
There was no way to check it. Poor Caylee was already a skeleton by the time she was discovered, and there was no marrow left in her bones. I believe there was an attempt to do a toxicology screening but there was no tissue or blood remaining. Even typing this about a toddler makes me sick.
Spidey, you and Dr. Das certainly don’t disappoint! Another fantastic, insightful and amazing video. I loved it and both of you! (Please collab more often!). I am truly so fascinated and LOVE learning from both of you. My mind was blown! You both raised SO MANY points I’d never even thought of! The inconsistencies are innumerable and her story has warped and changed so many times it’s practically impossible to believe. Thank you for all of three of these videos … they were my favourite by far! ❤🎉
That’s so sweet Erin! Thank you so much and I’m really glad you enjoyed this series 😊
@@TheBehavioralArts ❤️🙌 the documentary is one sided. All about her. They barely touch on any of the consistencies you both pointed out. I would be floored if she wasn’t compensated monetarily from this series. It is, in a way, mind blowing 🤯. Why aren’t they asking her the tough questions (I can think of a few!). The punishment question would’ve been a great question to ask her if she truly believes the story she’s woven ( I think?) about her dad. Then again, she’s not saying her dad is a murderer… I think she said? 🫠🙄
Thanks so much for the reply! You’re a gem! Ooohhh.. I’m editing my comment because I just realized that maybe the punishment question is only for those who are suspected of committing a crime …. Not sure! So in that case, maybe it wouldn’t be appropriate to ask Casey that type of question.
I NEED you and Dr. Das to go over one of the old videos that shows the facts of the case and interviews and her reactions at the time etc.
It's SO different from the way the docu-series presents it and makes her explanations now make even less sense as well as alot of details they straight out skipped over.
Love what y'all do!
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I second this.
Thank you! You are spot on dr Dax., I’m going to listen to Dr Dax. And look forward to watching your channel as well
Great point about her narcissism. That feels spot on to me