Great content. For now I’ll stick to Mojave as it’s running smoothly on the same model. Be nice to upgrade but for now I’m happy with my Mac Pro :). Great content !!!!!!!
@@johnbates3087m1 tech is junk. Apple is thinking for you. You think is offering you best price SSD? . The old Mac Pro all us thinkers to upgrade what we want. I get choose what GPU , ram , optical drive, hard drive
Based on the description, I prepared the installation USB. After selecting EFI, the Mac Pro asks for a keyboard and mouse. There is a 2.0 USB HUB, but the keyboard and mouse do not work. I can't even start the installation. Do you have any idea what I should do?
Nice video but let me say that the graphic glitches can be fixed by enabling the option "Enable beta blur" in OCPL settings and after install opencore again, I had the same problem on my mid 2010 iMac with a similar GPU
With the latest version of OCLP I can use a different card and the gliches are completely gone. Still need to try with the same card as in this video to swe if it was hardwarebor better patch.
HI Jens , thanks for the perfect tutorial, have installed on my Mac Pro 4,1 flash 5,1 2x3,46 intelxeon 12core gpu Nvidia GeForce GTX770 4GB 64GB RAM 1333MHZ, VENTURA 13.3.1 - used open core 6.5 - all moved smooth and easy - ventura was installed on additional pic card nvme ssd 970evoplus - regdds and thanks again - Mario dp
Hey jensd_be, it's been a whole while! I was wondering, are you able to do a hacintosh tutorial? 😅 I'm trying to install macOS Monterey on Windows 11 dual boot, but I can't figure the available videos out, since they are mostly complicated and some of the links are invalid or paid. I'd appreciate it!
Sir u r awesome in your content. I have installed windows 11 22h2 in my pc through your method.... Now Sir i want u to make a video on how to make PC work faster in startup and app loading, if u can please
Hey man nice video. I've been trying to install Ventura following along to this for 7 days now and I always get stuck when installing Ventura. Instead of the orange screen appearing so the finishing touches (wi fi time zones etc) can be applied, it just goes back to reinstall Ventura. Any idea what could be causing this? My Mac Pro 5,1 was originally a 4,1 but I flashed the firmware years ago to be a 5,1. I was also using an older version of Open core initially (before the legacy patcher came out). I was struggling to see the boot picker with my RX580 card so I put in the the old GT120 and it shows things fine. Any advice would be appreciated as its driving me mad that at the last step, it won't load Ventura. Many thanks
I had to reset the NVRAM (I think it's called - I'm pretty new to Macs) after the first reboot or mine did the same thing. I've got it running fine, now, on an early 2009 Mac Pro with a single processor (the cheaper version of the one in this video). I also had to buy a new thumb drive because it kept almost working, but, failing at one point or another. I'm old and I'm a cheapskate and I was trying to this with an older card reader and a Sandisk insertable card. The minute I used a good USB drive - and did the NVRAM deal - it worked. I'm using Ventura as I type, now. Hope you got it sorted out.
i tryed to update my 5.1 to ventura but the instalation after first reboot 10 minutes in stops and error message "an erroroccurred preparing the update." shows up
Your Ventura install went very smoothly. Slightly off topic, but I’ve recently installed OS Monterey 12.6.3 oil a 5,1 Mac Pro using Opencore Legacy Patcher 0.6.1 and everything boots fine without the USB installer connected. Everything seemed to be working perfectly until I tried to play some music via Airplay and realised that none of my Airplay devices (Airport Express or Bluesound Node) were showing in my sound options. All I can see is “Digital Out”, “Line Out” or “Internal Speakers”. And ... Apple Music says “The Airplay device cannot be found on your network. Please verify your network settings and Airplay configuration …”. If I boot from my Mojave back-up drive all the Airplay options re-appear but when I boot into Monterey they are no longer available. So .. the Airport Expresses are working. Do you have any suggestions??
This Mac can run Mojave natively is you use the right videocard!! I run the latest Open Core Monterey on my MacPro 5.1and it works excellent!😊 It is a shame that some old software I used under Mojave, doesn't.😢
I have a 5.1 Mac Pro with a Radeon RX580, which is good, but it also means I won't be able to see the boot options by holding down the option key. It looks like this is necessary to complete the install, do you have any suggestions on how to handle this?
Once you get OpenCore on the machine, you can use that to boot other options with a card that doesn't display the bootloader. I never really tried but maybe you can force something using the Startup Disk utility?
I have the 580 too. To install, I pulled all the drives and booted to usb ( after clearing nvram) until the open core boot screen came up. Then I installed the OS clean , rebooted, the wizard pops up asks you if you want to mount and boot from hard drive. I said yes rebooted pulled the key held option and nothing happened . So I did it again, rebooted, pulled the key and did nothing. It selected the correct boot party and has been running Monterey like a top. Now I want Ventura.
riddle me this I’m trying to upgrade my 2009(early)Mac Pro 4,1 to a 5,1. I did the EFI update and the firmware update when I restart it goes into a short flash mode and crashes then restarts back into El Capitan’s
I am impressed to see Ventura working with Radeon HD 5770, but what is your BootROM version ? (and if higher than MP51.0089.B00, how did you manage to upgrade)
friend, I have a gpu just like yours, but when I installed it, the video driver did not appear, your amd hd5770 has a different firmware, thank you very much for your attention
I have an original Wifi and Bluetooth card in the Mac Pro 4.1. Unfortunately, since the update, Bluetooth is not working. Roth Patch is installed. I've tried several times, but Buetooth doesn't work under Ventura.
Hi Jens, this is pretty exciting. I've just followed your 4,1 full upgrade to Big Sur process (except mine is a 5,1) and am very happy with how it's handling things. My question is to do with GPUs: Does this new upgrade to Ventura mean I can use a non-metal supported GPU? I have an unflashed metal-supported one for Big Sur (Sapphire HD 7950). But could either of these (non-metal supported) GPUs work for this? They are (1) ATI Radeon HD 5870 and (2) NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT?
Thanks for the kind words. The HD 5870 should work with the non-Metal patch as it is of the same generation of that HD 5570 which I used. Curious to see your results as I suspect an issue with my card. You can easily play with different cards by swapping the card, boot the Mac, run the post install patch and apply patches and reboot. I did a quick test with the GT120 and also a R9 280x (with Metal support but not in Ventura yet) that I still. Trying to get my hands on am RX560/570/580 for an acceptable price as well.
@@davidian3412 I dont think it will. For now only a very few AMD-based cards are supported due to the lack of AVX 2.0 support on the CPUs. As soon as that AVX 2.0 emulation is possible, all Metal cards should work again if I get this right.
Don't forget with the new edition to the operating system of runningboardd in Monterey and Ventura to control iOS app's it will prevent the Computer from sleeping all the way and it can not be turned off or none of the apps will work( but the sleep works) and you will have to reinstall the operating system,
It should work with non-Apple keyboards as well although I had mixed succes in the past. Especially wireless keyboards somehow seem to have issues entering the boot loader. But just to boot up the machine there is no need for an Apple keyboard at all.
After kicking around my custom debloated Windows 11 it's difficult to be enthused with using my Mac Pro running the Ventura OS. Much love to the Github devotees for their unwavering effort. But in reality if you do not have a newer device running M1 or M2 architecture this will likely be the last OS upgrade for your device, the sooner you accept this the better. Apple annual OSes mandate you buy a newer device just to be replaced by the next device because of the newer OS in a few years. Microsoft on the other hand doesn't really care about what you use and will offer OS support for a ridiculous amount of years to come. Js.
In theory upgrade does work but I have never tried from a non-OpenCore install to upgrade with OCLP. Maybe first install OpenCore on your current OS version, then upgrade?
My Bluetooth card in my 5.1 is original as is wifi. Will it work? What brand of card did you put in yours? If I understand correctly you only need to use a usb 2.0 hub the first time? Thanks for your help.
I finaly figure out how to use opencore on a chinese Xeon board 😳 Specs Intel xeon 2670 V3 12cores, 24threads GTX 1650 64 gb ddr4 After 2 months fixing issue’s i got it 🥺
Should still work fine in 2024 but you can also go even for Sonoma if desired. See my video on that specifically if interested: ua-cam.com/video/acpQuCIy3GA/v-deo.html
Can you help me figure out why my Wi-Fi or Bluetooth isn’t working? I have a Mac Pro 4,1. I’ve run the post install. Installed open core again to the main drive. Nothing seems to work.
Maybe a stupid question but are you sure that you have the optional airport module? Afaik that was not standard on the 4,1. Did it work on the previous macOS version you had on there?
Dear sir，I have a late 2008 macbook. After installation of Ventura, the trackpad doesn't work, there's no driver for the trackpad. Neither does the airdrop function. I have applied post patches so many times, but the problems still exist. Do you have the same experience as I do? How to solve the problem? Would you pls be kind enough to give me a reply?
Don't have experience with it myself but I think this is related to legacy UHCI/OHCI support in Ventura as you can see here: github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/issues/1021 For now the recommendation is to not upgrade to Ventura on these model Macbooks unfortunately.
I have a 2009 Mac Pro with Mojave. It presents the following problem. While I want to download, for example, an update of some program, for example Firefox, some file or something else, the process stops. What could be wrong? my connection is optical and the relevant check has been done by OTE and everything was fine since the pages on the internet open very quickly. Do I need to change anything in the hardware? Do you suggest I get a new network card? I've tried everything but I don't know what else I need to do. Thanks
Sounds like a strange issue. Maybe, with Mojave, it could be related to expired root certificates but then I'd expect that the download doesn't even start. I'd try to download to another destination as well. Maybe there is an issue with the file system on the Downloads-location volume or such.
Anl RX580 will not ahow a boot screen so you need another (supported) card to show that or try using the startup utility from macOS to set the USB drive to boot from. But I've had mixed success with that
@@Taras-Nabad yeah but you first need to twll your mac that it needs to boot OCLP. Holding down the option key would show the original native boot loader. That one then could start OCLP which can be displayed on that RX580
@@jensdbe Hartelijk dank voor je zeer snelle antwoord, inmiddels heb ik toch 0.6.1 weten te verkrijgen. Maar helaas vanaf 8:54 op je film, gaat het toch fout, ik krijg alleen maar het inschakelen van de muis en het toetsenbord te zien, en een verwijzing naar Apple.
Thank you very much for your very quick reply, in the meantime I have managed to get 0.6.1 after all. But unfortunately from 8:54 on your movie, it still goes wrong, I only get to see enabling the mouse and keyboard, and a reference to Apple.
Unfortunately I don't have a lot of experience with the 3,1. Are you able to boot different USB drives? Maybe check if you have erased the whole drive instead of just the volume/partition or try with another USB drive.
Hi Jens. I have a 4,1 flashed to 5,1 running High Sierra on a HD5770 graphics card. I have followed all the OCLP instructions to upgrade to Big Sur and yet I can't get a boot screen to select EFI boot. Have you experienced this or suspect what may be going wrong? Thanks
Do you not see the bootscreen of it does not list the EFI boot option? In the aecond case, make sure to erase the whole drive in Disk Utility or try another USB drive.
hi, thank you for all your work of research and documentation. i may still have a problem and i think it's due to a EFi upgrade in a previously tentative of upgrade OS, following your steps in a previous video BIGSUR on mac PRO 4,1, Now my mac is on 5,1 do i have to use opencore built for 4,1 or 5,1 ?
If you did a firmware upgrade of your 4,1 to 5,1, you will need to everything as if this was a 5,1. So that is the model which you need to select in OCLP. Normally that should also be what OCLP detects itself, at least if you use the same machine to create the installer on.
Not sure why you would see this. I'd try to re-erase the drive (make sure you select the whole drive and not a single volume). If that doesn't help, maybe try another USB drive if possible.
Does anyone know if you can still boot into 10.7? On the Mac Pro 4,1/5,1? I use 10.7 and don’t want to loose that ability but would also like to have the use of Ventura.
Haven't really tried this but I wouldn't know why that would not be possible. You can install Ventura on a separate partition or drive so it doesn't touch your 10.7 installation.
I just acquired a mac pro 4,1 and for years i wanted one. I am currently undergoing the upgrade process of this system. I have already flash it to a 5,1. I will be upgrading the CPU among many other things very soon on this system. And i am even considering replacing my current daily driver, that is a much new Ryzen build with DDR4. I have started to come to terms with the fact i no longer game like i used too.
Performance-wise it still can follow a lot of newer systems but power consumption isn't really great. Especially comparing with M1/M2 machines (since you're not gaming anymore). One of the next videos will be about CPU/GPU upgrade on the machine I used here, so tay tuned if you want to be prepared for your CPU upgrade :)
I just used OCLP to put Ventura onto a MacBook Pro i7 2011, it was not very responsive, slow boot even with SSD that delivers close to 650MB/s write. I’d be interested to hear others experience but I’m unlikely to upgrade past Monty on the 5.1. In video above safari does not open fast, mine does not bounce more than once.
It's better with a card that has Metal support like a RX560/RX580 but everything works pretty well with the HD 5770 as well. Currently supported cards are limited.
firstly thank you very much for useful video,I have aMacPro 5.1 and osx Monterey running now and I'm using RX580 graphic card. I have a little English and I want to ask you; can I upgrade to Ventura using this RX580 graphic card and can I use this card when I upgrade to ventura? thanks for your help.
Yes, the RX580 is one of the few cards that will work with Metal support on the 5,1 on Ventura with OCLP so you are lucky :) Would be curious to see your results. Keep us posted.
@@jensdbe I'm a little busy these days, I will definitely write the results under this heading when I make the update.Thank you for your interest and help.
Which of the two methods is better for a safe and stable MacPro 5.1 update, Martin Lo's OC method or the OC Legacy Patcher method? I appreciate your response.
I didn't really look deeply into Marin Lo's OC method but as far as I can see it involves a lot more steps and possibility to tune. I did install OpenCore before using Clover Configurator etc. I guess it just depends what method you prefer. OCLP is very automated and not much can go wrong. In the end, the result will be the same. The different methods are just a different way to install OpenCore and apply patches.
@@jensdbe If I install the OCLP without upgrading the operating system, however, it will enable GPU acceleration and give me a boot screen like Martin's OC ?
I like your videos, just installed Ventura on my macmini 2012 following your instructions and it worked without any issues. I have a question - what if I have unflashed RX580 with no boot screen? When I reboot machine, how do I select OC EFI as boot option? I am sure many of us are having the same problem. Thanks!!
I think the best approach is to first install OpenCore to your hard drive. That will allow you to boot other media with the RX580. Or temporarily replace your video card with one that does show the bootloader.
@@jensdbe Would really appreciate if you could explain "first install OpenCore to the harddrive, this will allow you to boot other media with the RX580" in more detail. Thanks!
I have a problem with my installation on 5.1 mac pro, when it does the reboot after copying everything to the ssd it hangs indicating that there is a problem that says "a problem occurred preparing the software update" any advice? I have the hd5770btw, this video is awesome
Try to run Disk Utility (it can be from the environment which gives you that error) Then run First Aid on the drive/partition on which you try to install Ventura. Followed by a re-try. This has helped me before in the same situation.
Thanks! I saw you still have an old firmware so no nvme support? I just got a 2010 5,1 and have 5770 an 7950 but it won't install mojave. Haven't touched opencore yet but thinking about going this road to Ventura you showed. Are you going to make a video about the firware upgrade to 144? That would be great! Thank you!
I did the Ventura install a bit unplanned here but definitely took care of the firmware and NVMe. Documented that all in a video as well. You can find it here: ua-cam.com/video/zTl1lL1zfkg/v-deo.html
@@jensdbeThanks! I just watched that 2 times. How long did you have to wait for the 7950 showed screen? Even after 15 minutes it doesn't show up with mine. It's a XFX with no boot switch and thinking about flashing it or try Opencore for unsupported macs first.
@@Yeenon_usa i don't think it can. The 7950 could run mojave but would not work on motherey so i got an rx 580. I think you have to get a gpu that was new when the os was released so from the same time period.
Hey Jens, I'm about to upgrade my Mac Pro (Mid 2010) to macOS Ventura, after going through your video I have one question, my current system is running macOS Mojave and has a Radeon RX 570 graphics card installed for metal - however this is a non-flashed card, do you see any problems with the installation as the card is non-flashed ?
@@justinwdean not at all, when booting OpenCore, you will see the boot selection and installer without issues. You can also upgrade to the latest Sonoma if you like. Same process and I also have a video on that: ua-cam.com/video/acpQuCIy3GA/v-deo.html
@@jensdbe So no need to flash the card - bonus and tbh impossible for me as i dont have a windows machine, thx so much for the speedy reply - on with the update then and again thank you for your videos
@@jensdbe One last thing my Mac Pro is currently running macOS Mojave like you via a SATA SSD, mine being a 2TB Crucial SSD but I also have additional storage via one of the PCI-Express slots using a Corsair MP600 CORE 4TB for use with Dropbox, instead of putting Ventura on another SATA SSD could I use another Corsair MP600 CORE say a 2TB card to boot Ventura from and run applications, would this work do you think?
@@justinwdean most likely not unfortunately. I'm working on a video specifically for the 4,1/5,1 for Sonoma and I successfully used an Apple keyboard with built-in USB hub (the classic metwl/white one with a USB port underneath at each side)
followed the guide - Mac Pro 5,1 clean install but I have no EFI Boot option just Install Ventura? Ive mounted the EFI on another Mac and OC is there but not showing up on Bootpicker? Any help? I plugged the Install USB into the USB 2 hub - should I plug it directly into the Mac Pro ?
Maybe check the output when building OpenCore and installing it to the USB drive. Did you see any errors there? How did you format/erase the USB drive? In my case I plugged the USB drive directly to the Mac (used the front ports) but it shouldn't really matter to my idea.
@@austinstallion8187 maybe give it another try and re-erase the USB drive from the start? Make sure to select the drive itself (after changing to All Devices in Disk Utility). No need to re-download the installer as it should already be there. If that doesn't work, maybe try another brand/type of USB drive. Sometimes, some USB drives are just not your best friend to boot from. I remember some Sandisk USB drives which were always trouble to boot from as they came up as an external HD instead of a USB drive.
You need a graphic card that supports showing the bootloader. So the original GT120 or HD 5770 or a flashed card with EFI support. If you don't have either of these you can use the startup disk utility to set your mac to boot from USB
@@gidrogen1298 A GTX Titan, which is of the Kepler architecture is not (yet) supported with patching for Ventura. See here for more information: dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/VENTURA-DROP.html#currently-unsupported-broken-hardware-in-ventura Regarding the booting, insert a bootable USB drive, go to Apple menu > System Settings > General >Startup Disk, unlock and select the USB drive to boot from it on the next boot. Then restart the Mac.
Playing around with a hackingtosh is definitely on my list as well. I just love the hardware so much, especially the 4,1/5,1 and iMacs from around 2012-2015. How is the experience on that Optiplex? Is it usable for day to day work?
@@jensdbe Its great, i7 3770, 16 gigs ddr3 and intel hd4000 graphics. Everything that I use it for is flying on it… I even got a USB bluetooth working on it. Its my nightstand machine so its used mostly for 1080p media consumption on the 24" Samsung S24C450 screen. Loving it.
@@jensdbe One thing. I got the hd4000 graphics by installing opencore patches from the version 4.11 not the latest one. It was very buggy with the latest from 3 weeks ago 4.11 did the trick.
For the 4,1 and 5,1 specifically, you need one of the following to use the non-Metal patch: AMD TeraScale 1 and 2 2000 - 6000 series Nvidia Tesla 8000 - 200 series Nvidia Maxwell and Pascal 900 - 1000 series To have Metal support: NVIDIA Kepler (GTX 6xx, GTX 7xx) AMD/ATI GCN 1-3 (HD 7xxx/8xxx/9xxx, R7/R9) AMD/ATI Polaris (RX 4xx/5xx) - (Hosts lacking AVX2.0) AMD/ATI Vega (RX 56/64/VII) - (Hosts lacking AVX2.0)
Updates come in through the regular channel but in some cases it might be needed to re-apply some of the patches if things got overwritten. So always good to keep a copy of the OCLP app handy before updating.
@@50charactersonly61 not sure if I have it on a previous video, It's just like updating any regular/supported Mac. Only after the update completes, you run the "Post install root patch" again from OCLP. Like I did here: ua-cam.com/video/lU19o8OHvVM/v-deo.html When it is needed to re-run the patches, it will be listed here which exact patches and you can continue, see the progress and reboot when done. It's pretty painless usualy.
Great content. For now I’ll stick to Mojave as it’s running smoothly on the same model. Be nice to upgrade but for now I’m happy with my Mac Pro :). Great content !!!!!!!
Monterey and Ventura has a lot of cool and useful stuff compared to Mojave
However Mojave runs 32bit and 64bit. New version doesnt
@@johnbates3087m1 tech is junk. Apple is thinking for you. You think is offering you best price SSD? . The old Mac Pro all us thinkers to upgrade what we want. I get choose what GPU , ram , optical drive, hard drive
Based on the description, I prepared the installation USB. After selecting EFI, the Mac Pro asks for a keyboard and mouse. There is a 2.0 USB HUB, but the keyboard and mouse do not work. I can't even start the installation. Do you have any idea what I should do?
Nice video but let me say that the graphic glitches can be fixed by enabling the option "Enable beta blur" in OCPL settings and after install opencore again, I had the same problem on my mid 2010 iMac with a similar GPU
With the latest version of OCLP I can use a different card and the gliches are completely gone. Still need to try with the same card as in this video to swe if it was hardwarebor better patch.
HI Jens , thanks for the perfect tutorial, have installed on my Mac Pro 4,1 flash 5,1 2x3,46 intelxeon 12core gpu Nvidia GeForce GTX770 4GB 64GB RAM 1333MHZ, VENTURA
13.3.1 - used open core 6.5 - all moved smooth and easy - ventura was installed on additional pic card nvme ssd 970evoplus - regdds and thanks again - Mario dp
Hey jensd_be, it's been a whole while!
I was wondering, are you able to do a hacintosh tutorial? 😅
I'm trying to install macOS Monterey on Windows 11 dual boot, but I can't figure the available videos out, since they are mostly complicated and some of the links are invalid or paid.
I'd appreciate it!
Sir u r awesome in your content. I have installed windows 11 22h2 in my pc through your method.... Now Sir i want u to make a video on how to make PC work faster in startup and app loading, if u can please
Hey man nice video. I've been trying to install Ventura following along to this for 7 days now and I always get stuck when installing Ventura. Instead of the orange screen appearing so the finishing touches (wi fi time zones etc) can be applied, it just goes back to reinstall Ventura. Any idea what could be causing this?
My Mac Pro 5,1 was originally a 4,1 but I flashed the firmware years ago to be a 5,1. I was also using an older version of Open core initially (before the legacy patcher came out). I was struggling to see the boot picker with my RX580 card so I put in the the old GT120 and it shows things fine.
Any advice would be appreciated as its driving me mad that at the last step, it won't load Ventura. Many thanks
I had to reset the NVRAM (I think it's called - I'm pretty new to Macs) after the first reboot or mine did the same thing. I've got it running fine, now, on an early 2009 Mac Pro with a single processor (the cheaper version of the one in this video). I also had to buy a new thumb drive because it kept almost working, but, failing at one point or another. I'm old and I'm a cheapskate and I was trying to this with an older card reader and a Sandisk insertable card. The minute I used a good USB drive - and did the NVRAM deal - it worked. I'm using Ventura as I type, now. Hope you got it sorted out.
thank you so much! everything worked as expected
im very glad i found out about this as i just bought a 2011 macbook pro and would like to keep it around as long as i can :)
i tryed to update my 5.1 to ventura but the instalation after first reboot 10 minutes in stops and error message "an erroroccurred preparing the update." shows up
Hi jensd_be, remember me? You helped me with windows security being empty.
Not sure but good to hear I managed to help :)
Your Ventura install went very smoothly. Slightly off topic, but I’ve recently installed OS Monterey 12.6.3 oil a 5,1 Mac Pro using Opencore Legacy Patcher 0.6.1 and everything boots fine without the USB installer connected.
Everything seemed to be working perfectly until I tried to play some music via Airplay and realised that none of my Airplay devices (Airport Express or Bluesound Node) were showing in my sound options. All I can see is “Digital Out”, “Line Out” or “Internal Speakers”. And ... Apple Music says “The Airplay device cannot be found on your network. Please verify your network settings and Airplay configuration …”.
If I boot from my Mojave back-up drive all the Airplay options re-appear but when I boot into Monterey they are no longer available. So .. the Airport Expresses are working.
Do you have any suggestions??
👏🏻 I wish I could have tried this but I don’t have a Mac Pro any more. Kudos
This messed up my wifi. cant do anything kept getting error mesh missing 23
This Mac can run Mojave natively is you use the right videocard!! I run the latest Open Core Monterey on my MacPro 5.1and it works excellent!😊 It is a shame that some old software I used under Mojave, doesn't.😢
I have a Mid 2010 Mac Pro 5,1. Which graphics card are you using?
After Mojave there is no more 32-bit support, the system is powerful enough to run Mojave in a virtual machine or any other OS.
I have a 5.1 Mac Pro with a Radeon RX580, which is good, but it also means I won't be able to see the boot options by holding down the option key. It looks like this is necessary to complete the install, do you have any suggestions on how to handle this?
Once you get OpenCore on the machine, you can use that to boot other options with a card that doesn't display the bootloader. I never really tried but maybe you can force something using the Startup Disk utility?
I have the 580 too. To install, I pulled all the drives and booted to usb ( after clearing nvram) until the open core boot screen came up. Then I installed the OS clean , rebooted, the wizard pops up asks you if you want to mount and boot from hard drive. I said yes rebooted pulled the key held option and nothing happened . So I did it again, rebooted, pulled the key and did nothing. It selected the correct boot party and has been running Monterey like a top. Now I want Ventura.
After I saw the usb initially, I turned it off, returned the ssd then rebooted.
I have apple ATI 5770 card but it doesn’t work on Mojave, I am curious how can you make it working?
riddle me this I’m trying to upgrade my 2009(early)Mac Pro 4,1 to a 5,1. I did the EFI update and the firmware update when I restart it goes into a short flash mode and crashes then restarts back into El Capitan’s
I am impressed to see Ventura working with Radeon HD 5770, but what is your BootROM version ? (and if higher than MP51.0089.B00, how did you manage to upgrade)
Have a look at my other video on how I upgraded the bootROM version: ua-cam.com/video/zTl1lL1zfkg/v-deo.html
friend, I have a gpu just like yours, but when I installed it, the video driver did not appear, your amd hd5770 has a different firmware, thank you very much for your attention
Disable graphics composition for the glitches
I have an original Wifi and Bluetooth card in the Mac Pro 4.1. Unfortunately, since the update, Bluetooth is not working. Roth Patch is installed. I've tried several times, but Buetooth doesn't work under Ventura.
Hi Jens, this is pretty exciting. I've just followed your 4,1 full upgrade to Big Sur process (except mine is a 5,1) and am very happy with how it's handling things. My question is to do with GPUs: Does this new upgrade to Ventura mean I can use a non-metal supported GPU? I have an unflashed metal-supported one for Big Sur (Sapphire HD 7950). But could either of these (non-metal supported) GPUs work for this? They are (1) ATI Radeon HD 5870 and (2) NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT?
Thanks for the kind words. The HD 5870 should work with the non-Metal patch as it is of the same generation of that HD 5570 which I used. Curious to see your results as I suspect an issue with my card. You can easily play with different cards by swapping the card, boot the Mac, run the post install patch and apply patches and reboot. I did a quick test with the GT120 and also a R9 280x (with Metal support but not in Ventura yet) that I still. Trying to get my hands on am RX560/570/580 for an acceptable price as well.
@@jensdbe Do you think my unflashed Sapphire HD 7950 (metal supported) will work?
@@davidian3412 I dont think it will. For now only a very few AMD-based cards are supported due to the lack of AVX 2.0 support on the CPUs. As soon as that AVX 2.0 emulation is possible, all Metal cards should work again if I get this right.
@@jensdbe I just want to let you that if you want to see the bootrom, your non-metal card must be flashed.
Don't forget with the new edition to the operating system of runningboardd in Monterey and Ventura to control iOS app's it will prevent the Computer from sleeping all the way and it can not be turned off or none of the apps will work( but the sleep works) and you will have to reinstall the operating system,
Another question, Can I make the installer of Ventura on the current macOS high sierra?
Can you help me with this doubt? To boot it, do I need an Apple keyboard?
It should work with non-Apple keyboards as well although I had mixed succes in the past. Especially wireless keyboards somehow seem to have issues entering the boot loader. But just to boot up the machine there is no need for an Apple keyboard at all.
After kicking around my custom debloated Windows 11 it's difficult to be enthused with using my Mac Pro running the Ventura OS. Much love to the Github devotees for their unwavering effort. But in reality if you do not have a newer device running M1 or M2 architecture this will likely be the last OS upgrade for your device, the sooner you accept this the better. Apple annual OSes mandate you buy a newer device just to be replaced by the next device because of the newer OS in a few years. Microsoft on the other hand doesn't really care about what you use and will offer OS support for a ridiculous amount of years to come. Js.
Can oclp only do a clean install? I want to avoid having to re install all my applcations and rebuild my current mojave system……
In theory upgrade does work but I have never tried from a non-OpenCore install to upgrade with OCLP. Maybe first install OpenCore on your current OS version, then upgrade?
But if you have USB 2.0 in Mac Pro 2012, is the USB going to have issues as well?
This is only applicable for a Mac Pro 4,1 or 5,1 as far as I know. I did install Ventura on some other models without any issues.
Sir r9 270x show 7 mb till me how to solve
hi,
how do you record your bootscreen and installation?
I have a HDMI capture device. You place it between the HDMI output and a monitor and then can use a separate PC to record all output :)
i have a gt120 card hehe would it work with that to install monterey? good video by the way.
In theory the non-Metal patches in OCLP should allow it to work relatively fine but you will get a way better experience with a Metal-supported card.
I am running Monterey which I installed last week but I’m thinking of putting Ventura in .
Worth a try for sure :)
@@jensdbe Gonna savour Monterey for a bit I think.
My Bluetooth card in my 5.1 is original as is wifi. Will it work? What brand of card did you put in yours? If I understand correctly you only need to use a usb 2.0 hub the first time? Thanks for your help.
I finaly figure out how to use opencore on a chinese Xeon board 😳
Specs
Intel xeon 2670 V3 12cores, 24threads
GTX 1650
64 gb ddr4
After 2 months fixing issue’s i got it 🥺
I'm telling this for too long now but I really want to look into trying a hackingtosh as well. Just need to find some more time.
perfect , any issues in 2024? just downgraded to r7 gona miss the 6800
Should still work fine in 2024 but you can also go even for Sonoma if desired. See my video on that specifically if interested: ua-cam.com/video/acpQuCIy3GA/v-deo.html
@@jensdbe took a few goes , seems to be working well atm 👍
Can you help me figure out why my Wi-Fi or Bluetooth isn’t working? I have a Mac Pro 4,1. I’ve run the post install. Installed open core again to the main drive. Nothing seems to work.
Maybe a stupid question but are you sure that you have the optional airport module? Afaik that was not standard on the 4,1. Did it work on the previous macOS version you had on there?
Dear sir，I have a late 2008 macbook. After installation of Ventura, the trackpad doesn't work, there's no driver for the trackpad. Neither does the airdrop function.
I have applied post patches so many times, but the problems still exist.
Do you have the same experience as I do? How to solve the problem? Would you pls be kind enough to give me a reply?
Don't have experience with it myself but I think this is related to legacy UHCI/OHCI support in Ventura as you can see here: github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/issues/1021
For now the recommendation is to not upgrade to Ventura on these model Macbooks unfortunately.
Sir when I boot it shows mouse and keyboard on boot how to fix it??
I have a 2009 Mac Pro with Mojave. It presents the following problem. While I want to download, for example, an update of some program, for example Firefox, some file or something else, the process stops. What could be wrong? my connection is optical and the relevant check has been done by OTE and everything was fine since the pages on the internet open very quickly. Do I need to change anything in the hardware? Do you suggest I get a new network card? I've tried everything but I don't know what else I need to do. Thanks
Sounds like a strange issue. Maybe, with Mojave, it could be related to expired root certificates but then I'd expect that the download doesn't even start.
I'd try to download to another destination as well. Maybe there is an issue with the file system on the Downloads-location volume or such.
thank you for this video. Did you use the standard wifi+bt Modul or did you upgrade a newer one?
This is the standard wifi/BT module which shipped with the machine as far as I know.
What do you do when you reboot holding the option key and no boot loader options come up . Just black screen. Using RX580.
Anl RX580 will not ahow a boot screen so you need another (supported) card to show that or try using the startup utility from macOS to set the USB drive to boot from. But I've had mixed success with that
@@jensdbe I thought OCLP has its own boot screen.
@@Taras-Nabad yeah but you first need to twll your mac that it needs to boot OCLP. Holding down the option key would show the original native boot loader. That one then could start OCLP which can be displayed on that RX580
I just started this project , and im kinda lost with the programs i need to install the open core , so many variants
Just one: Open Core Legacy Patcher is all you need
I think i might get an older version of it cause my 5.1 isn’t recognizing it as a valid app
It looks like in Asia it is impossible to download OCLP 0.6.1. I'll only get 1.5.0 where it go's wrong?
The latest release is 1.5.0 it should work in the same way still
@@jensdbe Hartelijk dank voor je zeer snelle antwoord, inmiddels heb ik toch 0.6.1 weten te verkrijgen. Maar helaas vanaf 8:54 op je film, gaat het toch fout, ik krijg alleen maar het inschakelen van de muis en het toetsenbord te zien, en een verwijzing naar Apple.
Thank you very much for your very quick reply, in the meantime I have managed to get 0.6.1 after all. But unfortunately from 8:54 on your movie, it still goes wrong, I only get to see enabling the mouse and keyboard, and a reference to Apple.
I have a macoro3,1. Followed the exact same steps, I don’t get a UEFI BOOT option.
Unfortunately I don't have a lot of experience with the 3,1. Are you able to boot different USB drives? Maybe check if you have erased the whole drive instead of just the volume/partition or try with another USB drive.
Hi Jens. I have a 4,1 flashed to 5,1 running High Sierra on a HD5770 graphics card. I have followed all the OCLP instructions to upgrade to Big Sur and yet I can't get a boot screen to select EFI boot. Have you experienced this or suspect what may be going wrong? Thanks
Do you not see the bootscreen of it does not list the EFI boot option? In the aecond case, make sure to erase the whole drive in Disk Utility or try another USB drive.
thanks
Thank You for all your effort.
hi, thank you for all your work of research and documentation. i may still have a problem and i think it's due to a EFi upgrade in a previously tentative of upgrade OS, following your steps in a previous video BIGSUR on mac PRO 4,1,
Now my mac is on 5,1 do i have to use opencore built for 4,1 or 5,1 ?
If you did a firmware upgrade of your 4,1 to 5,1, you will need to everything as if this was a 5,1. So that is the model which you need to select in OCLP. Normally that should also be what OCLP detects itself, at least if you use the same machine to create the installer on.
I am enable to copy the installer on the usb drive, i have '' Failled to creat macOS installer'' soon after this step.
Not sure why you would see this. I'd try to re-erase the drive (make sure you select the whole drive and not a single volume). If that doesn't help, maybe try another USB drive if possible.
Bought a 5,1 after brain surgery, but then realized the guy sold me a 4,1.
Doesn’t have to be an issue. Both are very similar. Only upgrading the dual CPU model takes a bit more effort (see my last video)
Thanks for the video, its great to see whats happening at the bleeding edge of Hackintosh
Does anyone know if you can still boot into 10.7? On the Mac Pro 4,1/5,1? I use 10.7 and don’t want to loose that ability but would also like to have the use of Ventura.
Haven't really tried this but I wouldn't know why that would not be possible. You can install Ventura on a separate partition or drive so it doesn't touch your 10.7 installation.
I just acquired a mac pro 4,1 and for years i wanted one. I am currently undergoing the upgrade process of this system. I have already flash it to a 5,1. I will be upgrading the CPU among many other things very soon on this system. And i am even considering replacing my current daily driver, that is a much new Ryzen build with DDR4. I have started to come to terms with the fact i no longer game like i used too.
Performance-wise it still can follow a lot of newer systems but power consumption isn't really great. Especially comparing with M1/M2 machines (since you're not gaming anymore). One of the next videos will be about CPU/GPU upgrade on the machine I used here, so tay tuned if you want to be prepared for your CPU upgrade :)
Excellent, Jens!
I just used OCLP to put Ventura onto a MacBook Pro i7 2011, it was not very responsive, slow boot even with SSD that delivers close to 650MB/s write. I’d be interested to hear others experience but I’m unlikely to upgrade past Monty on the 5.1. In video above safari does not open fast, mine does not bounce more than once.
same here ventura isn't working wellfor me , instead use monterey that was an upgrade for me
Very helpful, thanks! Could you someday create a tutorial for installing Windows on a separate/dedicated hard drive on an OpenCore Mac Pro?
I do have this planned as it requires some special care for a 4,1/5,1
For everything to go smoothly, is it necessary to have a native graphics card?
It's better with a card that has Metal support like a RX560/RX580 but everything works pretty well with the HD 5770 as well. Currently supported cards are limited.
Is the temperature ok when running the adobe app?
firstly thank you very much for useful video,I have aMacPro 5.1 and osx Monterey running now and I'm using RX580 graphic card. I have a little English and I want to ask you; can I upgrade to Ventura using this RX580 graphic card and can I use this card when I upgrade to ventura? thanks for your help.
Yes, the RX580 is one of the few cards that will work with Metal support on the 5,1 on Ventura with OCLP so you are lucky :) Would be curious to see your results. Keep us posted.
@@jensdbe I'm a little busy these days, I will definitely write the results under this heading when I make the update.Thank you for your interest and help.
Question: Is it possible to patch the 4,1 to a 5,1 *after* installing Ventura with OpenCore?
From what I read online this should be possible. I never did it from Ventura myself though. On the planning for the 4,1 I used for this video.
Which of the two methods is better for a safe and stable MacPro 5.1 update, Martin Lo's OC method or the OC Legacy Patcher method? I appreciate your response.
I didn't really look deeply into Marin Lo's OC method but as far as I can see it involves a lot more steps and possibility to tune. I did install OpenCore before using Clover Configurator etc. I guess it just depends what method you prefer. OCLP is very automated and not much can go wrong. In the end, the result will be the same. The different methods are just a different way to install OpenCore and apply patches.
@@jensdbe If I install the OCLP without upgrading the operating system, however, it will enable GPU acceleration and give me a boot screen like Martin's OC ?
No.
I like your videos, just installed Ventura on my macmini 2012 following your instructions and it worked without any issues. I have a question - what if I have unflashed RX580 with no boot screen? When I reboot machine, how do I select OC EFI as boot option? I am sure many of us are having the same problem. Thanks!!
I think the best approach is to first install OpenCore to your hard drive. That will allow you to boot other media with the RX580. Or temporarily replace your video card with one that does show the bootloader.
@@jensdbe Would really appreciate if you could explain "first install OpenCore to the harddrive, this will allow you to boot other media with the RX580" in more detail. Thanks!
I have a problem with my installation on 5.1 mac pro, when it does the reboot after copying everything to the ssd it hangs indicating that there is a problem that says "a problem occurred preparing the software update" any advice? I have the hd5770btw, this video is awesome
Try to run Disk Utility (it can be from the environment which gives you that error) Then run First Aid on the drive/partition on which you try to install Ventura. Followed by a re-try. This has helped me before in the same situation.
@@jensdbe i follow this advise but i have the same result... may i try with another ssd?
didn't work whit another ssd
July 2023 I will try this.
i think this video you did had a great explanation, thanks man i'm considering bought used mac pro in the future
Good to hear you have liked it. There is a lot of fun playing with these :)
So far usb patch not working on my 3,1 for anyone who has one and also Bluetooth. WiFi is fine though.
As far as I know this should work. Did you check if all patches were applies? Maybe try to re-apply from OCLP?
@@jensdbe I did do I twice originally. One more time can’t hurt!
Thanks! I saw you still have an old firmware so no nvme support? I just got a 2010 5,1 and have 5770 an 7950 but it won't install mojave. Haven't touched opencore yet but thinking about going this road to Ventura you showed. Are you going to make a video about the firware upgrade to 144? That would be great! Thank you!
I did the Ventura install a bit unplanned here but definitely took care of the firmware and NVMe. Documented that all in a video as well. You can find it here: ua-cam.com/video/zTl1lL1zfkg/v-deo.html
@@jensdbeThanks! I just watched that 2 times. How long did you have to wait for the 7950 showed screen? Even after 15 minutes it doesn't show up with mine. It's a XFX with no boot switch and thinking about flashing it or try Opencore for unsupported macs first.
I have apple ATI 5770 card but it doesn’t work on Mojave, I am curious how can you make it working?
@@Yeenon_usa i don't think it can. The 7950 could run mojave but would not work on motherey so i got an rx 580. I think you have to get a gpu that was new when the os was released so from the same time period.
Hey Jens, I'm about to upgrade my Mac Pro (Mid 2010) to macOS Ventura, after going through your video I have one question, my current system is running macOS Mojave and has a Radeon RX 570 graphics card installed for metal - however this is a non-flashed card, do you see any problems with the installation as the card is non-flashed ?
@@justinwdean not at all, when booting OpenCore, you will see the boot selection and installer without issues. You can also upgrade to the latest Sonoma if you like. Same process and I also have a video on that: ua-cam.com/video/acpQuCIy3GA/v-deo.html
@@jensdbe So no need to flash the card - bonus and tbh impossible for me as i dont have a windows machine, thx so much for the speedy reply - on with the update then and again thank you for your videos
@@jensdbe One last thing my Mac Pro is currently running macOS Mojave like you via a SATA SSD, mine being a 2TB Crucial SSD but I also have additional storage via one of the PCI-Express slots using a Corsair MP600 CORE 4TB for use with Dropbox, instead of putting Ventura on another SATA SSD could I use another Corsair MP600 CORE say a 2TB card to boot Ventura from and run applications, would this work do you think?
Hi @jensdbe i haven't got a USB hub but i do have a USB 3.0 PCIe card installed will that work?
@@justinwdean most likely not unfortunately. I'm working on a video specifically for the 4,1/5,1 for Sonoma and I successfully used an Apple keyboard with built-in USB hub (the classic metwl/white one with a USB port underneath at each side)
Could you try to see if the current latest Xcode would run on this? Does sound work? Thanks.
Sound works as expected. Need to check on Xcode. Will try to find some time to test this.
@@jensdbe Does xcode work? Thanks.
followed the guide - Mac Pro 5,1 clean install but I have no EFI Boot option just Install Ventura? Ive mounted the EFI on another Mac and OC is there but not showing up on Bootpicker? Any help? I plugged the Install USB into the USB 2 hub - should I plug it directly into the Mac Pro ?
Maybe check the output when building OpenCore and installing it to the USB drive. Did you see any errors there? How did you format/erase the USB drive? In my case I plugged the USB drive directly to the Mac (used the front ports) but it shouldn't really matter to my idea.
@@jensdbe No errors but
I formatted the USB Extended Journal?
@@austinstallion8187 maybe give it another try and re-erase the USB drive from the start? Make sure to select the drive itself (after changing to All Devices in Disk Utility). No need to re-download the installer as it should already be there. If that doesn't work, maybe try another brand/type of USB drive. Sometimes, some USB drives are just not your best friend to boot from. I remember some Sandisk USB drives which were always trouble to boot from as they came up as an external HD instead of a USB drive.
@@jensdbe yes will try that thank you 🙏🏽
An interesting video and I'm glad to hear that workarounds are still being created!
Me too :) I do worry a bit though that Apple's transition to Apple Silicon will make this impossible in 1-2 releases out.
@@jensdbe Yes, that is a possibility, but those computers would work well with Linux Mint installed or Sparky Linux.
@@laurencejohnson4106 so far Windows is still a very valid option as well.
@@jensdbe That's true.
Do you need to upgrade the wifi and bluetooth card before using big sur or Ventura?
I didn't take any additional steps regarding wifi/bluetooth to upgrade any firmware or so.
@@jensdbe aslo can u download straight from apple or is it from oc?
Parabéns pelo vídeo
Thanks
Do I need to have a native graphics card to go to the loader? I will be very grateful if you answer
You need a graphic card that supports showing the bootloader. So the original GT120 or HD 5770 or a flashed card with EFI support. If you don't have either of these you can use the startup disk utility to set your mac to boot from USB
@@jensdbe I only have a GTX Titan card, can you explain a little more about booting a Mac via USB? I will be very grateful to you
@@gidrogen1298 A GTX Titan, which is of the Kepler architecture is not (yet) supported with patching for Ventura. See here for more information: dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/VENTURA-DROP.html#currently-unsupported-broken-hardware-in-ventura
Regarding the booting, insert a bootable USB drive, go to Apple menu > System Settings > General >Startup Disk, unlock and select the USB drive to boot from it on the next boot. Then restart the Mac.
@@jensdbe Thank you, very helpful!
@@jensdbe So I shouldn't put Ventura on my Mac Pro? Because my graphics card just won't work with Ventura? I'm sorry if I disturb you
You have some cool toys Bud, I recently hackintoshed Optiplex 7010 SFF with Monterey and Clover...
Playing around with a hackingtosh is definitely on my list as well. I just love the hardware so much, especially the 4,1/5,1 and iMacs from around 2012-2015. How is the experience on that Optiplex? Is it usable for day to day work?
@@jensdbe Its great, i7 3770, 16 gigs ddr3 and intel hd4000 graphics. Everything that I use it for is flying on it… I even got a USB bluetooth working on it. Its my nightstand machine so its used mostly for 1080p media consumption on the 24" Samsung S24C450 screen. Loving it.
@@AndrzejLDotEu sounds good. Might start reading on which hardware I need to select and start collecting to give this a try :)
@@jensdbe Absolutely 😀
@@jensdbe One thing. I got the hd4000 graphics by installing opencore patches from the version 4.11 not the latest one. It was very buggy with the latest from 3 weeks ago 4.11 did the trick.
What gpu would you need for Ventura?
For the 4,1 and 5,1 specifically, you need one of the following to use the non-Metal patch:
AMD TeraScale 1 and 2 2000 - 6000 series
Nvidia Tesla 8000 - 200 series
Nvidia Maxwell and Pascal 900 - 1000 series
To have Metal support:
NVIDIA Kepler (GTX 6xx, GTX 7xx)
AMD/ATI GCN 1-3 (HD 7xxx/8xxx/9xxx, R7/R9)
AMD/ATI Polaris (RX 4xx/5xx) - (Hosts lacking AVX2.0)
AMD/ATI Vega (RX 56/64/VII) - (Hosts lacking AVX2.0)
@@jensdbehi would the rx580 work, also how would I put macOS on the rx580?
Am I able to get regular updates if I follow this tutorial?
Updates come in through the regular channel but in some cases it might be needed to re-apply some of the patches if things got overwritten. So always good to keep a copy of the OCLP app handy before updating.
@@jensdbe Do you have a video of doing this on a PC or laptop?
@@50charactersonly61 not sure if I have it on a previous video, It's just like updating any regular/supported Mac. Only after the update completes, you run the "Post install root patch" again from OCLP. Like I did here: ua-cam.com/video/lU19o8OHvVM/v-deo.html When it is needed to re-run the patches, it will be listed here which exact patches and you can continue, see the progress and reboot when done. It's pretty painless usualy.
@@jensdbe thanks for replying! Keep up the good work!