I liked the way the watch turned out. I didn’t think I would like a brownish colored dial, but I was pleasantly surprised. I will purchase the case and bracelet now and that will give me time to decide on the dial. Keep up the interesting work!
The color of the metal is the Seiko scratch resistant coating that makes it darker. Over time it will fade. I like the brushed link sides better than the OEM because of scratches that will inevitably happen.
Thanks again for your great build vlogs Dan! The MM200 has been my favorite Seiko diver case shape for a couple years but I never considered building my own until you recommended this affordable case with a great looking insert. I have just ordered my parts tonight (splurged on an OEM dial and OEM hands) and I'm excited for everything to arrive (although nervous about cutting the stem as always). ☺
love to see that brown/black dial on a gold or bronze or even two tone case and braclet. love how you show everything the good, the bad, and the ugly haha
A beauty for sure, waiting on my parts and an aftermarket dial. Eventally I'll put on an oem dial and the brown is less expensive so I'll probably buy it. As far as the dial and hands go, buy a sanmartin or less expensive 62mas homage and build out a nice mod
A way to add a touch of authenticity while still keeping to a low budget is to just get an OEM clasp and add it to a non-OEM bracelet. I have both an OEM clasp and a non-OEM bracelet incoming and I'll be sure to compare the shade of metal on both to see how glaring the differences are.
seiko call it diashield or something like that it gives darker ton to steal parts and looks better than aftermarket, they says is for scratch resist but on my mm300 didnt stop scratches but it do one thing good, it forces you to buying original parts coz color diference, and I have original watch with this dial, which is limited only to seiko's butiques
Great project! The 62mas dial resembles the Seiko 5 snxs79. I wonder how it would look to make a "premium" version of the snxs79 with that dial, perhaps an explorer case or something....
about the darker steel color, i noticed the same thing if I compare my SPB151J1 case to the willard steeldive case: the steel on the seiko Willard is the same; darker ( and way more nicer); looks like titanium. dunno how they get this color.
Its possible. There are budget aftermarket SPB143 cases (and bracelets i think). There are even Heimdallr homages of the SPB143. I might be able to get one and do a simple dial/hand swap with the Grey dial that I removed in this build. It wouldn't look quite as nice as the black dial, but it would save me money in the process. I also like checking out homage watches to see if they're good value. This is something I might look into.
Hey, congrats on another great mod. Your original video inspired me to make an all OEM SPB207 mod. I have the OEM case and hands, just waiting on the dial now. Would you recommend buying an OEM bracelet for this model? My whole purpose of this mod was to keep costs down and get a watch that I love, the bracelet ups the cost just that much. Thanks again!
Happy to hear it. I'm always pleased to hear that my videos have inspired builds or helped people. If you're going for all OEM parts, its worth it to get the OEM bracelet too. Especially since the colour of the aftermarket bracelet (in this video) does differ from the OEM, probably due to a scratch resistant coating they've got on the OEM one. So I'd either get a cheap leather/Nato strap for it until you can go for the OEM bracelet. The aftermarket bracelet does fit the OEM case, but you will notice the difference in the colour of the metal. If that's not a problem for you, its great value for money, but I'd say go for the OEM bracelet if you want the watch to feel complete. Its unfortunate, since the OEM bracelet on AliExpress has gone up in price, but its worth it in my opinion. No matter how you look at it, you're saving a lot of money compared to buying it even with the OEM bracelet. Let me know what you decide, and I'd love to see pictures of the complete watch when its done. God speed with the build!
@@ItsAnotherWatch thanks man! I think that I’ll go with the OEM bracelet and just spend a little more money. Like you said, this will make it all OEM and I’ll get the complete look! Keep up the great content!!
Have you checked the real water protection of an unoriginal case? And will an inclined ceramic insert and a double convex glass fit on the original case?
I've gotta say, that even w/ the slightly less refined bracelet, I prefer the look of the budget friendly SPB185, w/ that rusty, burnt auburn dial. I really feel that you lucked out w/ that one. Question....well 2 questions really; 1) Do all/some/most, OME Seiko dials, come stamped out like that??? Just curious. 2) Do you think it feasible, to possibly formulate a Grand Seiko "style" of build??? Maybe the SLGH005 "White Birch," or even the SBGH269 "Heritage Autumn." I could sit here, and name different models for an hour. That's how fond I am, of many GS designs. Absolutely love the content, BTW. Keep up the great work. Cheers...
Awesome budget build man! I got inspired to try one myself, but with MM300 dial/hands. MM200 looks good, but the dial and hands of MM300 look even better.
A practical question if I may ask: When you put the movement back in the case and push it into place, there's nothing holding the movement in there even when you put the caseback there, right? I have a watch which appears to have a little gap between the chapter ring and the dial, and I was just thinking could the movement be displaced a bit. Also, thanks for the videos. They're motivating me a lot to start playing with the watches.
It would be the simplest solution to try, since the alternative would be that the crystal/glass isn't seated properly anymore. I'd search for photos of the watch in its usual state to compare to and then try pushing the movement back into place if you can determine that it has in fact come out of position. After it has been re-seated, with the caseback properly fastened, if it still moves out of place, it could be an issue with the crystal. Then I'd compare images of the watch to determine if the crystal is protruding too much and I'd use a press to try and re-seat it. And if that doesn't do it then it might be worth getting it looked at by someone who might have more resources to solve the issue.
I love the fact you use a milk carton top to sit your movements on! 😳 I also love your taste in watches but do you use an old yoghurt pot as a movement cover? 😉 I do!
For the cheaper of the linked SPB185 cases, can I check what thickness was the one you received? Mine arrived today, comes in at 14.8mm thick (gen is 12.5mm). Listing says the case is 12.45mm, though even without taking in the crystal then the aftermarket case is looking at around 13.5mm.
Cheers mate - even though it’s much thicker than I was hoping for, the quality is pretty excellent for under £50. All the parts have now arrived so I’m about to do my first build thanks to your video 👍
Thanks for watching and commenting! To answer your question: No, these MM200 cases don't have slots for chapter rings, the dial rests on the inside of the case. So dials with minute tracks are a must. There is potential for using a Heimdallr THORN watch as a base to mod though, as those have chapter rings in them, but I'm not familiar with the parts and their dimensions so it probably isn't worth it unless you can buy one just to experiment with.
Hey Dan, where do you get your dials from? Are they usually genuine oem dials? Also is it possible to get genuine oem parts from aliexpress? Still in the research phase for my first mod. Great video as usual!
I get some of my dials from eBay and some from AliExpress when they're available. They seem to become available in batches and once they're gone... they're gone. You're kind of limited to whats available at the time but there are quite a few to choose from. Of course aftermarket dials are also an option which are more widely available, but depending on the price they may not have such great lume or appear very green compared to OEM dials. Its always worth checking the print on aftermarket dials too, making sure its clean and the text is similar to what you would see on an OEM dial rather than an incorrect font or mediocre applied logo. I'd say unless they're a completely unique offering that OEM dials can't offer, aftermarket dials are a budget option or a last resort when an OEM dial of that style just ISN'T available. You can get other OEM parts on AliExpress but it seems to be VERY limited and sometimes it involves finding listings that don't use the more obvious keywords like "OEM", "SEIKO" etc. The only oem parts i've bought from AliExpress, besides some of the dials, have been the SPB185 case and bracelet (which are still available if you search SPB185). Sometimes its always worth checking the homages too. If there's one that is essentially the watch you want to build, minus the Seiko branding, you can sometimes get away with a simple dial and hand swap (and maybe changing a branded clasp or sanding down a branded caseback) to transform them into a good value for money SEIKO build. Of course, eBay is a good source. And using picclick.co.uk can gives eBay listings that are sometimes more broad in terms of region, giving results that you otherwise wouldn't see if you were just on your regular eBay site. All in all though, OEM parts (at least for me since I don't have any connections for parts) are rather difficult to come by if they aren't available on AliExpress or eBay. Sometimes other watch parts sellers do stock OEM dials but usually, for me, the one I want isn't there or its out of stock. WatchPartsPlaza sells OEM parts, and modmodewatches.com has some OEM dials available as well. Its worth using your proffered search engine to look for "OEM SEIKO DIAL" to see what comes up. I've found digging around is sometimes the only way to go, especially for obscure or rare OEM dials. Also! The SEIKOMODS subreddit is a great place to post a picture of the dial you want, and ask where you might be able to get one. I've come across some very helpful people there who have linked me to sites that I wouldn't have found otherwise (which escape my memory at the moment). I hope this info helps. I'm no expert with all of this but that's the basic stuff I've come to find when looking for parts in the last couple of years of modding.
Here: www.amazon.co.uk/HBselect-Automatic-Positions-Display-Storage/dp/B07YXNF6QW/ Unfortunately after a few months of use, when i plugged it into a different slot it burnt out the motors, making the winding feature useless. The winding function can be a bit noisy too. Still, its a nice looking case, I'd recommend something similar but perhaps without the auto winding function, unless you're in need of that.
@@ItsAnotherWatch Oh no I meant like the actual display case back for the SPB185 itself. You mentioned it was one for the old 7s movements with the black spacer, but I cant seem to find anything.
@@kevinhuynh1870 Ah my apologies. I actually figured these things were really common, but when trying to find the link again (the one I bought in 2020 is a dead link) I found it harder to locate them. This is the closest thing I can find on AliExpress: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002964555564.html The key (i think) is that it needs to be a case back designed for the black spacer of the 7s36 rather than the NH36. Because it hasn't got the raised back to compensate for the smaller grey movement ring the Nh36 has. So if this fails, you could get a caseback from Namoki mods or Crystal times that is made for the 7S rather than the NH and it might work too. (I don't have any of the 7S casebacks on hand to test unfortunately) Since the aftermarket caseback used in this video was said to be made for an SKX007 as a drop in replacement, i assume its made for the 7S spacer rather than NH which is why it works on this case (without leaving a gap due to the raised part for an NH36)
If its an MM300 Jubilee it MIGHT fit. Since the MM300 Heimdallr fits the OEM and aftermarket case. But only if its the 20mm lug width one made for an MM300/MM300 Homage.
Thanks for letting me know, it looks like the listing has changed since i bought this. I've updated the link with an alternative seller for the same bracelet.
@@ItsAnotherWatch That's brilliant, cheers. I ordered the bracelet a couple of days ago and was gonna get a few fat spring bars from Amazon. Appreciate your videos mate. They're very well made and entertaining. Look forward to seeing some new ones in the future.
The genuine watch has been available for £530, might be better to spend the extra few hundred odd pounds and get the real deal instead of spending so much time and effort constructing a fake watch.
That brown dial is actually from a SPB240 with bronze bezel. Hopefully, you do more of these budget mod videos. It inspired my own budget spb185
I liked the way the watch turned out. I didn’t think I would like a brownish colored dial, but I was pleasantly surprised. I will purchase the case and bracelet now and that will give me time to decide on the dial. Keep up the interesting work!
I bought the same one. Thought it was black as well. Doing the exact same build. Gonna order that bracelet now. Thanks for the great info!
Haha I'm glad you found the Ali express listing, it's actually a steal. Made one similar to that for my client and he loves it.
Great video and honest comments , appreciate your efforts. Keep it up 👍
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The color of the metal is the Seiko scratch resistant coating that makes it darker. Over time it will fade. I like the brushed link sides better than the OEM because of scratches that will inevitably happen.
Thanks again for your great build vlogs Dan! The MM200 has been my favorite Seiko diver case shape for a couple years but I never considered building my own until you recommended this affordable case with a great looking insert. I have just ordered my parts tonight (splurged on an OEM dial and OEM hands) and I'm excited for everything to arrive (although nervous about cutting the stem as always). ☺
love to see that brown/black dial on a gold or bronze or even two tone case and braclet. love how you show everything the good, the bad, and the ugly haha
That brown dial is gorgeous!
Have to say, the brown looks great in that case, top job!
A beauty for sure, waiting on my parts and an aftermarket dial. Eventally I'll put on an oem dial and the brown is less expensive so I'll probably buy it. As far as the dial and hands go, buy a sanmartin or less expensive 62mas homage and build out a nice mod
A way to add a touch of authenticity while still keeping to a low budget is to just get an OEM clasp and add it to a non-OEM bracelet. I have both an OEM clasp and a non-OEM bracelet incoming and I'll be sure to compare the shade of metal on both to see how glaring the differences are.
That’s not to shabby at all,good video I enjoyed that thanks for sharing 👍
Great job my friend keep up the good work. I'm really getting into these Seiko mods now
You’re brilliant mate ! Gratings from Sardegna .
You need to do a brass case with that brown dial. It looks awesome in the case holder.
Another great vid, just waiting on a dial for my spb185 mod.
Silver 62MAS dial and hands in a black case and bezel/insert!
Looking goood. Nice color dial.
seiko call it diashield or something like that it gives darker ton to steal parts and looks better than aftermarket, they says is for scratch resist but on my mm300 didnt stop scratches but it do one thing good, it forces you to buying original parts coz color diference, and I have original watch with this dial, which is limited only to seiko's butiques
Going to have a go at this. I chose this build because I am cheap
Great project!
The 62mas dial resembles the Seiko 5 snxs79. I wonder how it would look to make a "premium" version of the snxs79 with that dial, perhaps an explorer case or something....
about the darker steel color, i noticed the same thing if I compare my SPB151J1 case to the willard steeldive case: the steel on the seiko Willard is the same; darker ( and way more nicer); looks like titanium. dunno how they get this color.
i think the grey looked gorgeous. maybe a leather or suede bracelet would have helped to negate all the grey that your seeing
Could you do a SPB143 build? I love the watch but can't fork over €1200+ for a glorified nh35 based watch
Its possible. There are budget aftermarket SPB143 cases (and bracelets i think). There are even Heimdallr homages of the SPB143. I might be able to get one and do a simple dial/hand swap with the Grey dial that I removed in this build. It wouldn't look quite as nice as the black dial, but it would save me money in the process. I also like checking out homage watches to see if they're good value. This is something I might look into.
Hey, congrats on another great mod. Your original video inspired me to make an all OEM SPB207 mod. I have the OEM case and hands, just waiting on the dial now. Would you recommend buying an OEM bracelet for this model? My whole purpose of this mod was to keep costs down and get a watch that I love, the bracelet ups the cost just that much. Thanks again!
Happy to hear it. I'm always pleased to hear that my videos have inspired builds or helped people.
If you're going for all OEM parts, its worth it to get the OEM bracelet too. Especially since the colour of the aftermarket bracelet (in this video) does differ from the OEM, probably due to a scratch resistant coating they've got on the OEM one.
So I'd either get a cheap leather/Nato strap for it until you can go for the OEM bracelet.
The aftermarket bracelet does fit the OEM case, but you will notice the difference in the colour of the metal. If that's not a problem for you, its great value for money, but I'd say go for the OEM bracelet if you want the watch to feel complete.
Its unfortunate, since the OEM bracelet on AliExpress has gone up in price, but its worth it in my opinion. No matter how you look at it, you're saving a lot of money compared to buying it even with the OEM bracelet. Let me know what you decide, and I'd love to see pictures of the complete watch when its done. God speed with the build!
@@ItsAnotherWatch thanks man! I think that I’ll go with the OEM bracelet and just spend a little more money. Like you said, this will make it all OEM and I’ll get the complete look! Keep up the great content!!
Where did you get OEM 207 Hands?
Just perfect ❤️👍. Can you make the spb207 green dial? I want to buy it 🍻
This would be absolutely bangger if it was made as spb147j1
Have you checked the real water protection of an unoriginal case? And will an inclined ceramic insert and a double convex glass fit on the original case?
I've gotta say, that even w/ the slightly less refined bracelet, I prefer the look of the budget friendly SPB185, w/ that rusty, burnt auburn dial. I really feel that you lucked out w/ that one. Question....well 2 questions really; 1) Do all/some/most, OME Seiko dials, come stamped out like that??? Just curious. 2) Do you think it feasible, to possibly formulate a Grand Seiko "style" of build??? Maybe the SLGH005 "White Birch," or even the SBGH269 "Heritage Autumn." I could sit here, and name different models for an hour. That's how fond I am, of many GS designs. Absolutely love the content, BTW. Keep up the great work. Cheers...
Awesome budget build man! I got inspired to try one myself, but with MM300 dial/hands. MM200 looks good, but the dial and hands of MM300 look even better.
On the other hand I wish there was a 62mas case with crown at 4(ish) o'clock.
A practical question if I may ask: When you put the movement back in the case and push it into place, there's nothing holding the movement in there even when you put the caseback there, right? I have a watch which appears to have a little gap between the chapter ring and the dial, and I was just thinking could the movement be displaced a bit.
Also, thanks for the videos. They're motivating me a lot to start playing with the watches.
It would be the simplest solution to try, since the alternative would be that the crystal/glass isn't seated properly anymore. I'd search for photos of the watch in its usual state to compare to and then try pushing the movement back into place if you can determine that it has in fact come out of position.
After it has been re-seated, with the caseback properly fastened, if it still moves out of place, it could be an issue with the crystal. Then I'd compare images of the watch to determine if the crystal is protruding too much and I'd use a press to try and re-seat it. And if that doesn't do it then it might be worth getting it looked at by someone who might have more resources to solve the issue.
@@ItsAnotherWatch Thanks mate! This helps a lot in the troubleshooting.
Hey Dan, this is absolutely awesome build. Is skx007 glass back cover competible with spb185 case can you share a link for it?
I love the fact you use a milk carton top to sit your movements on! 😳 I also love your taste in watches but do you use an old yoghurt pot as a movement cover? 😉 I do!
My cover is an old Chocolate Moose/Pudding Pot.
@@ItsAnotherWatch Oykos Greek yoghurt, the original and best! 🤣
Can I buy that grade dial and also the hands from you. Ray
For the cheaper of the linked SPB185 cases, can I check what thickness was the one you received?
Mine arrived today, comes in at 14.8mm thick (gen is 12.5mm). Listing says the case is 12.45mm, though even without taking in the crystal then the aftermarket case is looking at around 13.5mm.
Yeah, your measurements seem about the same when measuring mine.
Cheers mate - even though it’s much thicker than I was hoping for, the quality is pretty excellent for under £50. All the parts have now arrived so I’m about to do my first build thanks to your video 👍
Hi! Thanks for yours fantastic video. Can you tell me if it's possible install an SKX rehaut (chapter ring) in this case? THX
Thanks for watching and commenting! To answer your question: No, these MM200 cases don't have slots for chapter rings, the dial rests on the inside of the case. So dials with minute tracks are a must. There is potential for using a Heimdallr THORN watch as a base to mod though, as those have chapter rings in them, but I'm not familiar with the parts and their dimensions so it probably isn't worth it unless you can buy one just to experiment with.
@@ItsAnotherWatch THX, you're the best!
Can u still use mods to dive?
the dial is not properly placed on the mechanism. the date is not in the middle of the square
Dan, does this stem on this SPB case can operate a NH36 (day/date)?
yes, the stem for the NH35 and NH36 are the same.
@@ItsAnotherWatch
Thank you, mate.
I want one! 👍👊🏻😎
Hey Dan, where do you get your dials from? Are they usually genuine oem dials?
Also is it possible to get genuine oem parts from aliexpress?
Still in the research phase for my first mod. Great video as usual!
I get some of my dials from eBay and some from AliExpress when they're available. They seem to become available in batches and once they're gone... they're gone. You're kind of limited to whats available at the time but there are quite a few to choose from. Of course aftermarket dials are also an option which are more widely available, but depending on the price they may not have such great lume or appear very green compared to OEM dials. Its always worth checking the print on aftermarket dials too, making sure its clean and the text is similar to what you would see on an OEM dial rather than an incorrect font or mediocre applied logo. I'd say unless they're a completely unique offering that OEM dials can't offer, aftermarket dials are a budget option or a last resort when an OEM dial of that style just ISN'T available.
You can get other OEM parts on AliExpress but it seems to be VERY limited and sometimes it involves finding listings that don't use the more obvious keywords like "OEM", "SEIKO" etc. The only oem parts i've bought from AliExpress, besides some of the dials, have been the SPB185 case and bracelet (which are still available if you search SPB185).
Sometimes its always worth checking the homages too. If there's one that is essentially the watch you want to build, minus the Seiko branding, you can sometimes get away with a simple dial and hand swap (and maybe changing a branded clasp or sanding down a branded caseback) to transform them into a good value for money SEIKO build.
Of course, eBay is a good source. And using picclick.co.uk can gives eBay listings that are sometimes more broad in terms of region, giving results that you otherwise wouldn't see if you were just on your regular eBay site.
All in all though, OEM parts (at least for me since I don't have any connections for parts) are rather difficult to come by if they aren't available on AliExpress or eBay. Sometimes other watch parts sellers do stock OEM dials but usually, for me, the one I want isn't there or its out of stock. WatchPartsPlaza sells OEM parts, and modmodewatches.com has some OEM dials available as well. Its worth using your proffered search engine to look for "OEM SEIKO DIAL" to see what comes up. I've found digging around is sometimes the only way to go, especially for obscure or rare OEM dials. Also! The SEIKOMODS subreddit is a great place to post a picture of the dial you want, and ask where you might be able to get one. I've come across some very helpful people there who have linked me to sites that I wouldn't have found otherwise (which escape my memory at the moment).
I hope this info helps. I'm no expert with all of this but that's the basic stuff I've come to find when looking for parts in the last couple of years of modding.
Fuk, the metal bezel is beautiful, I am a sucker for steel bezel.
Any link to the display case back used in the video?
Here: www.amazon.co.uk/HBselect-Automatic-Positions-Display-Storage/dp/B07YXNF6QW/
Unfortunately after a few months of use, when i plugged it into a different slot it burnt out the motors, making the winding feature useless. The winding function can be a bit noisy too. Still, its a nice looking case, I'd recommend something similar but perhaps without the auto winding function, unless you're in need of that.
@@ItsAnotherWatch Oh no I meant like the actual display case back for the SPB185 itself. You mentioned it was one for the old 7s movements with the black spacer, but I cant seem to find anything.
@@kevinhuynh1870 Ah my apologies. I actually figured these things were really common, but when trying to find the link again (the one I bought in 2020 is a dead link) I found it harder to locate them. This is the closest thing I can find on AliExpress: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002964555564.html
The key (i think) is that it needs to be a case back designed for the black spacer of the 7s36 rather than the NH36. Because it hasn't got the raised back to compensate for the smaller grey movement ring the Nh36 has. So if this fails, you could get a caseback from Namoki mods or Crystal times that is made for the 7S rather than the NH and it might work too. (I don't have any of the 7S casebacks on hand to test unfortunately)
Since the aftermarket caseback used in this video was said to be made for an SKX007 as a drop in replacement, i assume its made for the 7S spacer rather than NH which is why it works on this case (without leaving a gap due to the raised part for an NH36)
I did the OEM SPB207 mod aswell! do you think a heimdaller jubilee would fit the OEM case?
If its an MM300 Jubilee it MIGHT fit. Since the MM300 Heimdallr fits the OEM and aftermarket case. But only if its the 20mm lug width one made for an MM300/MM300 Homage.
i think the link for the bracelet is wrong, its leading to a 22mm skx bracelet
Thanks for letting me know, it looks like the listing has changed since i bought this. I've updated the link with an alternative seller for the same bracelet.
@@ItsAnotherWatch thank you very much
Does anybody have links for the parts ?
Links are in the video description.
Tropical. Sun-bleached dial
Do you remember if the aftermarket bracelet came with fat spring bars?
Yeah. You can see what they look like (as I put the bracelet on) at 19:42 .
@@ItsAnotherWatch That's brilliant, cheers. I ordered the bracelet a couple of days ago and was gonna get a few fat spring bars from Amazon. Appreciate your videos mate. They're very well made and entertaining. Look forward to seeing some new ones in the future.
20:10
The genuine watch has been available for £530, might be better to spend the extra few hundred odd pounds and get the real deal instead of spending so much time and effort constructing a fake watch.
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No its not its frankinstic
Still what you do is fake,