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Gun Gripes Episode 70: Convicted Felons and Guns
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In this episode we talk about a very serious subject - felons with guns. Should it matter if it's not a violent crime?
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If someone gets a felony for driving, you don't lose the right to own a car, so it's all about limiting as many people as possible from owning a firearm, period.
That’s right.
Good point
U can get ur license revoked though
@@gottiic6529 Even after revocation, you can still get your license back for the so called "right to drive", but you still can't "legally" own a firearm. In either case, having a license to drive, or a permit to carry a gun is nothing more than the government taking your rights and selling them back to you.
Having a driver’s license is a privilege not a right. There is a big difference.
In the past a felony was a serious this. Now they pass them out like parking tickets.
Your totally right about that
Yep,, anything can be made a felony.
@@pdoutdoors7272 just slapping a hippy is called a crime like wtf man
@@a.ortega4505
Right!!
In my state (Wisconsin) a minor can be charged with a felony of child porn production and distribution for sending nudes to their high school sweetheart (who can either be the same age or just a tad older/younger) or whatever and then lose their gun rights as well as register as a sex offender because of that, and the receiver can be charged with child porn possession (again, regardless of age) and have the same thing happen. It's an incredibly fucked up system. Also, the only way to get gun rights restored to a felon in this state is by pardon, and our governor Scott Walker has his head far up his ass and doesn't give out pardons so he can retain his "tough on crime" campaign stance so he can keep getting re-elected.
The system is fucked. And people don't realize how fucked the system is. And no legislator will change the system since their re-election hangs on it.
I'm a felon and it was nice for people to understand our struggles. It's just as hard getting a job as well.
Hey don't forget "fun with landlords!!!".
Yeah I think if you did your time and aren't a crazy person there is no real tangible reason not to restore your civil liberties. All of this is about control and keeping people in poverty. The game is completely rigged.
There are revolvers you're allowed to carry. The revolver has to be before a certain year.
If you can’t be trusted with all your rights upon being released from prison, then you shouldn’t be released from prison.
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Sonny Gunz...
I've been making this argument forever to my fellow "pro gun" friends and family.
Yours was more concise/to the point than my arguments though. "Brevity is the soul of wit". Well done.
Then the system would never let you out..
Well, that's one way if looking at it.
But we have some of the largest populations of people in prison, here in the USA. Too many people in prison for crimes they shouldn’t be jailed for.
@Su!c!de Surv!vor spoken like a true person sees nothing but race
I know people who have been convicted of a felony who I'd trust more with a gun than some people who haven't been. My question is, if someone is released from prison but can't be trusted with a gun, why are they out of prison?
Overcrowded in the slammer
You're personal anecdotal story of who you can trust is useless and uncontrollable.
Prisons fill up and they need to cut their costs.
Same reason some are in minimum security and some are in supermax - there are degrees of trust.
@@deathlarsen7502 bootlicker
Thank you guys for being open minded about convicted felons be I am one. It's so nice to hear someone who has took enough time understand.
Ive said this for a long time and would fight this fight for felons. Shall not be infringed
@@TzUuup well its firearms and everything else. I cant get a career because I'm a felon which leaves me with breaking my back to get by. I've tried so many different things and when it gets to that back ground check then it's always the same and I don't qualify. I understand why so many people go back to prison now.
@Micah Shelton oh I have guns. When it comes to defending my family, 3 years in prison is the least of my worries. I just keep them at home and proceed with my life.
Chris Anderson ..... hey bro your not alone.... i spent 8 years in a state penitentiary in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. I was convicted of a 2nd degree felony. My first ever offense. Outside of traffic violations. My Lord and my creator governs all my actions. All my beliefs and most of my thoughts. Im certainly not perfect. What im seeing now out on the streets of America breaks my heart. I love this country. I served this country . I went to war for this country. In the end none of that mattered in the court room. Theres a whole book i could write on that alone. The point is.... an honorably discharged veteran is never going to allow any piece of shit that thinks it has some sort of authority dictate to me what i can and can not have. Regardless of what it is.
@@chrisanderson9737 we are on the EXACT same page. Except with the craziness and mass shootings i carry daily in a messenger bag....with my hipster looking ass and the fact that im NEVER doing anything wrong for the last several years....im with you.
At the end of the day, “A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Even felons have the right to defend themselves, their families, and their country.
felons only get a 22
@@georgecattell4110 maybe a musket
@@georgecattell4110 yeah I agree with that have a period where they're not allowed to own guns at all then they're allowed to ease back into it with 22 and such only given that they're not a rapist, murderer, etc
100%
@@Bigcheese1334 rapists get derringers
Barry's in that big gun store in the sky. Probably giving archangels' a top 10 list of demon killing guns.
Moment of silence. I loved Ol Barry. I hope he's doing well in heaven.
Damn Barry died!? Did not know that, seemed like a genuine man
N C that’s why he’s only in the early gripes. I’m glad I got to watch the early ones and learn from Barry when he was still alive.
James Mckeraghan lol wtf, no one is talking about Obama.
Lol i hope Barry & St Peter are shooting skeet ,lol with cut shells.
Rest in Peace 🙏
Personally I think if you've paid your debt to society you should get your rights back
***** in regards to convicted felons
Also you should get your voting rights back.
personallly the state has no authority to trample a unalienable (can't be taken away) right to begin with. felony is their attempt to work their way around the unalienable part. and its horse chit.
Absolutely not. Paying a debt is pretty damn far from showing that you can be trusted. Especially since society has to force you to pay it. Screw criminals, I don't care what their excuse is, they shouldn't have any rights they can't be trusted with.
As for voting rights, THOSE should never under any circumstances be tampered with.
Dimetropteryx I think the lady with the fake insurance card should still be able to protect herself. It's obvious law enforcement can't protect us. We can only hope they catch the offender after the crime.
In the 2nd amendment, it doesent say anything about convicted felons not being able to own guns
Exactly.
themario master “Shall NOT be infringed”
Exactly SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Its to late government has to much power only civil war will get are rights back and people are to scared 😱 to fight back the blue people with better gun and more friends so get ready for the camp’s
Been saying the same thing is why I still have my guns
Taking away someone’s 2a rights is unconstitutional period
13th amendment must be changed then....you arent a citizen once you are convicted.
@@katwilliams2950 Really?
@@Kurio71 Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, "except as a punishment for crime" whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. It gets rid of slavery unless you commit a crime. That's how they can take a person's right for the 2a if they commit a felony, even if its non violent. Also it's how the prison system can get away with forcing inmates to work while they make a large profit.
TheSecond Amendment doesn’t qualify who can own a firearm. It gives us all our god given right to own a firearm.
@@katwilliams2950 that's only during the sentence. It doesn't say after being trialed and serving time you still be in slavery
The second amendment says a persons right to bear arms will not be infringed which makes any law that says a person cannot own or carry a firearm, no matter what crime they committed, a violation of The Constitution of the United States.
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Michael Takemoto 🙌🙌 well said!!🤙
False. The Justices of the Supreme Court of The United States are the Final Arbiters of the Constitution, as per the Constitution.
This makes such rulings from the Supreme Court lawful, and Constitutional.
@@Nikolai18A wrong that would mean states cannot doing anything which the 10th amendment nullifies ANY UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW I am not bound to obey when it is an act of ursurpation of power
@@tylerb556 I don't know what you're trying to say. The Constitution gives the Supreme Court jurisdiction over matters of Constitutionality. That makes a Supreme Court ruling on a matter of Constitutionality de facto Constitutional Law.
The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land, and the Justices of the Supreme Court are the Final Arbiters of the Constitution. This adds up to their rulings being, by definition, Constitutional. Yes, you are legally bound by the decisions made by SCOTUS, should they apply to you.
@@Nikolai18A you might want to read the federalist papers you seem to be confused
The fact of the matter is there's too many goddamn laws as it is.
You look like you could snap your fingers and half of all laws would disappear
@@flubb4071 I believe that is the warlord from wwf wrestling back in the day.
Fluub this comment is underrated
So true they need to enforce what laws we had . No cover with another bunch of BS
Title 18 US Code 242 Deprivation of rights under color of law
And thank you guys for doing this because I don’t believe my family should be less protective than anybody else because of a mistake I made over 26 years ago
I thank god every day that I’m 39 and grew up in “the hood” and did a lot of knucklehead things growing up and i made thru with no felonies 🙏🏾🙏🏾 that’s rare where I’m from but i did it
Shall not be infringed means just that...
The law doesn't see it that way, however, I agree with you.
We can thank Slick Willie (clinton) on some of the felon charges
The Supreme Law of the Land does! The inferior statutes make the exercise of fundamental, individual, "incorporated" rights "illegal". Those laws are NOT "law" at all but instead are known as a "nullity" and are unenforceable in any honorable court in the land. But each American must know their rights and how to defend them.
The Lautenberg Amendment, is way over reaching, I can see and agree that a convicted felon should seek some counseling, before his or her gun rights are returned, but a life time ban is totally unfair. Please don't respond with the adage you should have thought about it before you done it. We all make mistakes in life.
p pollaccia if only the Supremes could hear us out
I got a felony 1week after I had my 18 birthday. I was in my dads car and my brother left a gun in car. I was polled over and cop found gun. My brother went to police station and said it was his. They took us both. I got a felony and 3 years probations . Now can't own gun. U can jump border and have more fights then me. Only in America
There is no situation that police involvement can not make worse.
Baskor1 What a stupid thing to say.
You certainly don’t spell like a adult.
Gilbert Juarez did you ever get I gun
Yeah were you ever able to get one?
Even a felon has a right to defend himself too . But thats alright i never told the feds about everything i own lol.
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Their are some channel's dedicated to self defense for people with felony records.
Lol yeah i guess in a way i did kinda. But then again it’ll be ok .
@@roosterkerr1780 problem is tou will serve for using it in self-defense or if you ever get caught carryong
@@docjohnson1 there has to be proff. "I didnt hot him"
"Have you 'EVER' been convicted of a felony vs "The Rite To Keep And Bear Arms Shall NOT Be Infringed."
So what I'm taking from this is "stay single if you wanna keep your guns".
Eh, more money for guns that way.
Amen
So, what I'm taking away from this, is "I'm some MGTOW-incel variant, because I call myself a Japanese name, comment on gun videos advocating staying single".
Go back to your hole.
Moves Smitt imagine hating on a funny comment
What it is saying is, don't beat up on women.
@@RicTic66 or date an idiot
This is real simple. If a felon is too dangerous to have a firearm, then they are too dangerous to be released. Full stop. Simple.
Ken Lazar im a felon im not dangerous unless you try to kill my friend in front of me.
Pretty much. If your a free man, you may bear arms since it is a natural right, if you cannot, you are not free. If someone's too dangerous to have a gun they absolutely should not be in public seeing as you have cars, knives, swords, chemicals, explosives and even an easy means to manufacture a firearm and ammunition, let alone buy one or steal one.
You try going to prison and get f***ed by the system, see how that turns out for you bud
in some state when you get out of prison you can have guns again, but only on you property
Yea I'm so dangerous cause I had a blow gun when I was 17 lmfao
I was in the Army when the Laurenberg amendment passed in 1994. We had 4 soldiers with convictions for years prior to the law, then get discharged because of Lautenberg amendment. The whole misdemeanor 🐂💩 is garbage
And yet they excused cops - people who have a record of violent abuse of power over their wives, in some but not all cases, and then leave them in a job where violent abuse of power is already a problem in some small percentage of officers, and give them guns. Don't get me wrong. This is not an anti-cop post. This is just proof that the Lautenberg Amendment is not at all about domestic violence or protecting anyone.
I'm a 2A supporter, and a felon. I don't own, however I constantly encourage others to own and carry. It's my personal choice to abide by what standards and laws say I can't carry, and I appreciate all you do to help protect everyday law abiding citizens! Keep it up gents!
I served in the Marine Corps in an anti-terrorist unit. I recently decided to purchase my first gun, a Ruger 10/22. Here in Minnesota you need a permit to purchase to buy a hand gun. Most people can walk in and buy a rifle or shotgun unless they have a felony. I was denied the purchase of a rifle. The only thing on my record that I can even imagine is the reason. Is when "I" (not her) decided to divorce my crazy brazilian ex-wife, because of her infidelity She threatened that I would come home and find her and my 2 yr old daughter dead on the floor. She threatened at least 10 times she would take my daughter back to Brazil and I would never see her again. As a father protecting his child. I decided to tape record my phone line, to find out if strange men were coming over. Or if she was making flight arrangements to leave the country. The tape recorder was found at some point, not hooked to the phone line anymore. It was in the trunk of my car. I was charged with a gross misdemeanor of Invasion of Privacy/Stalk/Follow/Pursue. For tape recording my own phone line. I did one day of sentence to service (no jail time) I paid a $200 fine. Luckily, the court felt I was just a father protecting my daughter.
When I was denied the purchase of this gun. It pissed me off! I am buying guns because I have been out of the Marine Corps since 1997. I just want to have fun target shooting, see if I still have the shooting abilities I was trained with. This was just one of many guns I had wanted to buy. So I sent an E-mail to NICS to find out why I was denied. This is the answer I got, "The specific reason the flag was set could not be determined" "If you wish to challenge the accuracy of the denial, you may submit certified court documents pertaining to the prohibiting record identified above."
Ok so if they have no idea why I was denied!? What court documents should I send!? If they don't know why I was denied, then wouldn't sending my court records just give them a reason to find a reason to deny me!? This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Luckily, I can buy guns private party. Even better I can build my own Ar's.
I wanted to buy a gun, and I wanted the government to know what I have. I don't care! I wanted to be honest about owning these guns. To honest, and forth coming with what I have. Now they pissed me off to the point that I will build my own guns. Then they will have no idea what I have. So I am denied, but the real people in this world who want to commit crimes can get guns! I found how just how screwed up this system is.
keep building them brother .....
Fuck the system. They have no place to know what we have anyway or deny any free man or woman the right to keep and bear arms.
delete this post bro do your thing but keep it to yourself
Not illegal to build your own gun.
Only to sell it.
Damm that's so fucked up . U have my respect bro
Too many laws in america today. We cannot be aware of all of them.
+Richard Wood I think that is the goal.
+Michael Henriques Yes, this is a passive-aggressive means to convict as many citizens as possible of those offenses that would deny them their Constitutional right to vote and possess firearms.
+Richard Woods 1- This is also not an excuse. You can (the ones that are important or relate to you) so long as you know how to read. Most Americans don't do that thou. How many years do we live ? How come learning about ( you don't have to memorize them letter by letter) laws that relate to your life would be hard to learn ?!
+Emrah Ekinci I prefer not to be lectured on literacy by someone who doesn't understand proper spelling or grammar. Piss off troll.
I was trying to get down to your level.
Back in the 1800s when you got out of the old jailhouse the sheriff used to hand you back your pistol didn't matter what you were charged with it's just an excuse to limit Americans for owning more guns.
Im a "viloent felon" ...i was in a fight at 16 ...i broke his jaw ...1 on 1....done...welp only ghost guns here on out
James Carlin sounds like u don’t even need a gun😂 at least you won the fight
Lol nice ;)
You can just make a gun btw so it’s all bs
It does not count as a minor. You are fine to buy a gun unless you were tried as an adult.
Thank you for addressing this issue guys, I was convicted of a felony at 18 for robbery it was a foolish mistake I am now almost 40 and I'm in the same boat I was back then as far as legally owning or obtaining firearms
NSANE ONE Did you get your rights back?
Getting my civil rights back as we speak its been 10yrs since discharge im 32 now and everything you said was exactly what happened to me...Call the county law library they will give you all the information you need to restore your civil gun rights its worth it bud especially being it was that long ago! Most likely they give it to you especially if you haven't been in trouble with the law all these years!
Buy modern black powder or even antique firearms would be great for home self defense. Now is it as affective as modern firearms no it’s not but it will serve its purp
Move to Arizona, you'll be surprised.
@@Mr.CakeFacee unless you live in tn. Can't even own black powder or even muzzle loaded black powder in tn. It's absurd.
Good information to know. It's crazy knowing that getting into a heated argument with your wife on the back porch, and the neighbor calling the police can strip you of your right to own a gun.. FOREVER.
Braz Mann yeah, it’s so crazy it almost seems... untrue...
I have a friend who is a police officer. One night his crazy ex-wife tried to gut him with a butcher knife. He ended up needing 12 stitches to close up his hand from disarming her-- he was bleeding like a stuck pig when the cops got there, and they were about to take him to jail until he produced proof that he was a LEO.
Why? His wife's wrist was bruised from him grabbing it to stop her disemboweling him.
If he'd been a normal joe, he'd be barred from exercising his right to keep and bear, probably for life, because having your rights restored is not cheap nor guaranteed.
Brian Appel * Is TRUE though, check into it.
Freedom of Speech is not a domestic dispute, if police show up to Your house then do not answer the door
Apologies in advance, just speaking my mind.
Sounds unjust to me.
If politicians can't beat you with brains, they baffle you with bullshit, it seems.
Aka paper shufflers.
For non-violent Felony's you can go to court and get it reduced to a misdemeanor after 10 years, my brother had a felony drug charge dropped to a misdemeanor after about 12 years and bought a handgun legally.
We don't have 10 years lol
I got charged with a felony domestic assault and I was the one assaulted it's a serious flaw in our judicial system
Jeremy Bryant
Same bro. Got stabbed by my ex and somehow that was MY fault...
Yeah it's ridiculous a buddy of mine got shot while walking away up the stairs in his home by his wife in the back of his arm and he got the charges and he didn't do anything to her
@@JB-gd3mn wow😠
@Su!c!de Surv!vor Popping bottles!
Rule of thumb: Never call the police.
jcaled24 💯💯💯
3 years later, yup still agree. Although, personally I would rephrase it to "never call the police if you want everyone involved to live"
I wouldn't report a dead body. I would be the first suspect.
so, if there's an emo school kid shooting up the church, I'm not supposed to call the police?
Yeah that's why my wife can't own a phone
In Louisiana first offender convicted felons automatically receive a pardon. After ten years of completing your sentence/parole, or probation firearm rights are given back. there are some crimes that are excluded from this law.
Chris Henson maybe but with federal gov you must get a presidential pardon to get your rights back.
This is something most gun channels are scared to touch. Kudos for doing this.
Damn I thought this video was gonna go the other way. Right on guys
What is "the other way"? By "Right on guys" you're agreeing with them that someone convicted of a violent felony should never be allowed to own a gun again? Or are you agreeing with them that, even though the Constitution that created the government does not give them the power, the Government is allowed to decide when, who, and what rights to strip and are allowed to strip them as long as you agree with it? Please clarify what part of stripping people of their rights gets a "Right on guys" from you.
@@dalepres1 how bout you go suck a fat one, dork
@@dalepres1 I commented this 3 years ago. I don't even remember this video. So feck off
The whole "never give a convicted felon a gun!" thing is bullshit. Violent or not, how long does a guy have to pay for a mistake? Not only gun ownership but every job application "have you ever been convicted of a felony? If yes please explain" no wonder why they end up back in the pen. Smh
***** Pending felons, not yet convicted, can keep/possess guns they already own. And also buy/trade private dealers. They will be denied by federal licensed gun shops while pending, and after conviction (if there is conviction). Once convicted, you'll always be denied and your probation/parole officer will want you to give up previously owned guns (I'd imagine), other than your trusty old (or replica) muzzle loader (sorry, no Thompson Center Fire folks). If no conviction, your rights will be restored after you clear it up.
Or, you could just run from the law and remain pending (no one found = no one to convict) until your statue of limitations runs out (not all felonies have limits). Also, not all felonies are extraditable from one state to another = easy to "hide" = just don't go back. .......... so I hear
***** I disagree. Jail time is enough. Besides murder should be taken into consideration, its not so black and white. Say you kill a man who hurt someone you love that's "murder" so you cant lump all crime together. Because thats what our govt is doing and see the results.
Convicted murderers shouldn't be in society. Gun laws are communist and liberals letting out murderers isn't a good argument for gun control unless u admire hitler
99% of crimes committed are not accidents. An accident is making a spelling or grammar error. Committing a crime is a choice...a bad choice but none the less its a choice.
MorbidMinister666 So you've never did something you later regretted? You're 100% without fault? That's pretty rare, I'm impressed.
No, you can still own a gun, just dont buy it from a store
No, but it you get caught with a gun, you go back to jail.
then dont get caught
@@danietkissenle I think thats usually Plan A
Austin France Far as I'm concerned the constitution n bill of rights not up for debate. It clearly states " shall NOT be infringed" therefore these laws are illegitimate. Seems to me some fat cats are due to be dismissed and brought up on charges and punishment of their own up to and including no tax funded armed security guards or pension.
Please explain.
I know you're voice is small. But, I greatly appreciate you speaking out about this issue. I made horrible choices in my youth, I served a few year in prison. For drugs. I understand it was wrong and I did my time and payed my fines. Since then have lived a normal life and had the same job for almost 20 years. Even with changing I can never touch a firearm forever. It's sad as I used to love to hunt and target shoot.
I was convicted of 2 b and es and 2 grand larceny s in 94, dist of marijuana in 97 then got a family domestic charge in 09. I hired a lawyer in 2020 in Roanoke VA and I now have my gun rights and concealed permit. I hunt and can purchase guns too
I remember back in the day you used to take calls at the pawn shop to talk to people coming from the channel. I called in one day and of all people, Barry answered. I had a wonderful conversation with the man, and I remember that I asked him about his opinions on this very topic. This video hadn’t come out, so I had no idea what he’d respond with, but when this video did come out (I think it was a few weeks later), his opinion hadn’t changed. Still the same man I talked with on the phone. Thank you Barry for those 10 minutes you spent talking with a stranger, and may you Rest In Peace.
Thank you for talking about this... it’s not talked about enough. If you catch a drug charge that’s a felony same thing no second amendment for you. This is a horrible law that should be changed. Non violent felons should be able to buy and possess a firearm!!!!!
A group should be formed to write a petition the state local or federal depending who the charge was with a non violent felony should not allow the laws to be infringed and strip citizens of their 2 ammendment rights
@@rl3383 The problem is, what is classified as 'violent'. Far too many crimes are considered violent just to post harsher punishments. You can wreck the shit out of someone with mental abuse and that is not a thing in the courts. If you had a box knife in your pocket you used at work and you get attacked and you win but the attacker ends up with collateral damage... say loses an eye ( and you stopped the attack without pulling the knife), you WILL still be charged with assault using excessive force and when they frisk you, you are now in possession of a deadly weapon. There is no justice in the justice system. Trust me.......... I know.
Not true I had 2 breaking and entering and 2 grand larceny s, a dist of marijuana in 97 then a family domestic charge in 09. And I hamy gun rights and concealed permit and is able to purchase guns for 2 years now
But you're OK with the government stripping some felons of their rights? Where in the Constitution does the government get that power? Can you educate us? Or do they just inherently have the power to do whatever they want to whomever they want for whatever reason they want just because they got out of bed that day and work for the government? I mean, shouldn't there be something that the people agreed to, through their representatives, that formed a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, that says what powers the government does and doesn't have? They could call it something like a constitution or something. Do we have one of those that says the government can strip people of their rights?
Violation of the second. Doesn’t matter, after the lengthy parole after a prison stay if they were good then they should have all restored back to them
DB Stevens a violent repeat offender isn’t going to listen to the law anyway. I’m saying if they serve their tim and make it through the scrutinizing extensive parole their rights should be restored.
DB Stevens you do realize defending yourself in certain instances or your significant others honor may just make you a violent offender. Or that a woman could just say you hit her and overnight you are a violent offender. Our founders believed in when you served your time you were good. Everyone got so high and mighty the last hundred years and let rights go out the window till it effects them and then they cry.
DB Stevens I’m all for third strike you’re out.
@DB Stevens You have a strange stance on things. Felonies keep getting lower and lower, what used to be a traffic violation (or still is in the military) is considered a felony to us serfs, now.
Hopefully you'll gain some life experience, and learn a few things.
DB Stevens oh yea??? Well what about a guy that lived in a state with a no self defense law,and this guy was out fishing one night not bothering anyone and a stranger attacked him,so he defends himself from the attacker,and the attacker got hurt,and he was sent to Prison for it....
Now you are telling me that guy should spend the rest of his life in Prison??? GTFOH,,,oh yea,by the way I am that guy who was fishing that night and went to prison when I was 20 and got out when I was 23,13 years later and I still haven’t been in any trouble
After you do ur time and stay out of trouble for 5 yrs or so. It's bull how it follows you for life.
I miss that old man. It's good to see him after all these years.
I have never had even a speeding ticket... No encounters with law enforcement in my life other than hunting/fishing license check and pulled over for having a dead coyote in my truck by a deputy sheriff who after he seen who I was didn't even wanna check my licenses.
But anyway every time I buy a firearm I think "Man some of these things are so unfair." I agree 100% with what these guys are saying.
If you can't be trusted with a gun, you shoudn't be running loose
have an uncle who is a convicted felon, he owns cap and ball revolvers for defense. The laws here don't prohibit black powder weapons.
what state does your uncle live in?
@@Omar-if1cu Arkansas.
Same in Texas, felons can have cap & ball revolvers.
Same thing in ohio
Same in Alabama.
My felony was felony failure to appear. On a technical DUI when stopped I was 4 blocks away from my vehicle but cop saw me get out of my vehicle and claimed he saw me driving earlier. But since I had the keys on me I was charged as if I was driving. Nevada you've got to get a governors pardon.
Overall, violent felons probably shouldn't be able to own guns, BUT, if they are safe enough to allow back into society, then why not be able to own a gun legally? If they are not presumed safe enough to own a firearm, why would you trust them to release them back into society where they can access knives, etc.? That doesn't make a lot of sense.
As for domestic violence, I don't think that should be a gun-removing law. It's too broad of a definition to enforce properly. It's a good intention law but I don't know how effective it is.
you're wrong dude. this video is wrong as well. it is simply not true that all felons are prohibited from owning guns. if you're convicted of a certain violent felony OR misdemeanor, then you will lose your gun rights. there is a list of crimes which cause this. for some crimes, such as misdemeanors, you only lose your gun rights for 2 years. for other crimes, such as felonies, you lose them for 5 years. however, the VAST MAJORITY of felonies AND misdemeanors are not on this list at all. domestic violence is one of the only misdemeanors that is on the list. most felonies will not result in you losing your gun rights. it only includes violent crimes, serious financial crimes, and serious drug crimes such as dealing large quantities of schedule 1 drugs. so you don't lose your gun rights for committing victimless crimes. if you commit certain nearly-victimless crimes, you only lose your gun rights for a couple years, and you can appeal to have your gun rights reinstated. even if you murder somebody, you can still appeal to have your gun rights reinstated, though you probably won't win.
I just wanted to point out that many violent felons are simply NOT safe enough to be released back into society, but are nevertheless discharged when their sentences are up. Regardless of their crimes or their behavior while incarcerated, felons MUST be released when they have completed their sentences. That is the law. Behavior and the likelihood to reoffend are considered only when inmates are released early on parole. Many states will attempt to parole an inmate whom they know is dangerous, because the parole process allows that offender to be monitored by a parole agent, who can in turn, catch the offender committing another felony while he is subject to monitoring, and get him locked back up again before he can hurt someone. If he flats (completes his full sentence without parole), he can just walk out the door without being legally subject to any monitoring whatsoever. This is why dangerous inmates will often refuse parole. They know they are likely to get busted again while on parole, so they would rather flat their sentences in order to keep from picking up another felony conviction.
shmediaproductions is absolutely correct. Different states have different laws regarding whether or not a felon can regain his gun rights. Many states return your gun and voting rights after a certain period of time, or never take them away at all depending on the crime. Domestic violence is the exception. Restricting gun ownership for domestic violence is a federal law. However, in many states (like mine), you do not permanently lose your gun rights for domestic violence, and the state will not enforce the federal law. Therefore, if you live in the right state, you could possibly buy a gun from a private party for use inside your own state.
The video was also incorrect about domestic violence arrests. They spoke as if every time the police arrive at at domestic disturbance, someone is going to get arrested, charged, and convicted. This is simply not true! Convictions for domestic violence are actually somewhat rare, because the participants often change their minds or their stories somewhere along the way. Granted, cops will often make an arrest in order to separate individuals who could end up hurting one another, but this seldom results in an actual conviction. Cops will often attempt to convince one party to simply leave the house to avoid having to make an arrest. The odds are slim that you will lose you gun rights for slapping or pushing your spouse. But beat the crap out of them, and yes, you'll probably do time and lose your gun rights for at least some period of time.
***** Sounds like you had a shitty lawyer, or none at all! A fist fight in a bar would almost universally be considered mutual combat not assault. Unless, you beat this guy well beyond a point where he could no longer defend himself and be a threat to you? As far as your unemployment, if you could get a passport almost any construction company in the U.S. would likely hire you as convicted felon.
***** Got no job yet you have access to youtube? how's that happen?
Pleasant Lake Pirate public wifi at starbucks or mcdonalds.. heck even the library is an option.
As a victim less convicted felon myself I will tell u I'll do whatever time I'm giving to protect my family. At last they will be alive to visit me
Your other motto is the same as mine I bet..."rather be judged by 12 than carried off by 6"
Same brother
Amen
My 2nd amendment rights trumps any states law! My 2A right was given by our creator an the laws today made by overpowering corrupt non God fearing men! So I guess all I have to say is theirs ways around laws, hence just marry a woman who dont have thoes restrictions against her and give her the $ for your bang stick! Simple! Lol
Exactly! I'd rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6.
Belive me as a felon with multiple kids this is a scary time as a dad. Literally even going to the park or store gives me major anxiety.
we all gotta walk on egg shells nowadays
Perpetual punishment is a violation of my 4th amendment constitutional right!!
@DB Stevens A life sentence for murder isn't "cruel and unusual punishment".
Apples and Oranges, that's a *non sequitur*
@DB Stevens I used the term non sequitur is perfect context, thanks.
You failed in your assumption that the government gives a damn about the constitution. We have a LEGAL system in this country, not a JUSTICE system. There is zero justice in the courts. None.
Half the nation are permanently convicted felons for victimless non-violent offenses, who are PERMANENTLY BANNED from ever possessing a firearm or even a single bullet for life!
GUNS should be permanently BANNED in the United States from EVERYONE, not just white-collar NON-VIOLENT felons! (Eventually, everyone shall be permanently and properly banned from possessing a bullet or gun!)
There is a difference between a criminal felon and a law abiding felon. No law has ever stopped a criminal felon from owning a gun, it only stops law abiding citizens, felon or not.
We ALL did something stupid at one time or another . The only difference is some got caught and some did not.
in 1986 i burglarized a vacant empty house while high on meth. took a plea bargain for a 1st degree felony,,, Got saved in 97 and no trouble since...
It's good to hear this and see this stuff in the comments. I've been made to feel like less of a fucking human half my life just because of a screw up in my teens.
Some of the most solid human beings I have ever met have been felons! Our laws are bullshit that prey on people for basic human behavior. Good luck to you sir
Right...in Florida, even after many accomplishments and a squeaky clean record for 19 years you are still a felon in a negative connotation
Most convicted felons I know are FAR more moral and honest and TRUST worthy than regular people are! Once a man or woman pay there dept, They PAYED there dept and all is forgiven! Period!
cops to today are bigger crooks then career criminals are. and the cops get away with it.
You are one naive fool, Bret.
Dimetropteryx, and you are a pompus asshole, but hey, don't let that stop you.
amen to that most people with a background is much more moral and honest because that's what prison system does it makes men outta boys.
I'm a felon with guns. Have a carry permit too. Also on the back of that 4473 there is a little section that states that if you've had your record expunged or pardoned, you are legally allowed to put NO beside where it asks if you've ever been convicted of a pardon.
So if you had your record expunged it’s like it never happened? I got in trouble once about 15 years ago and got my records expunged since that time. So I would sign “no” on that form if I did want to buy?
@@spfadden082711 yep
Happened to a guy I work with.
Saw a guy manhandling a woman outside a bar & went to intervene.
The guy tried to punch him & he beat the guy up.
Turned out they were a couple.
Cops came & they claimed he came out nowhere & attacked them.
He got convicted of this.
Can't carry a gun.
Watching your guys vids I feel like I'm hangin' with my buds, it's great! Rest in peace Barry, you're the man!
The second amendment states it quite clearly. "Shall not be infringed upon"
they dont seem to understand what a right is
The 5th amendment says you can forfeit your rights as long as you receive due process of law. Putting murderers in prison is not an infringement on their right to liberty because they have forfeited that right by murdering someone and the state has given them the chance to defend themselves against that charge and proved the charge beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury of their peers. The loud argument = domestic violence thing is total BS but I am very happy with murderers, robbers, and rapists being prohibited from possessing guns. However restricting the ability of LAW ABIDING people to own or carry guns is absolutely a violation of the 2nd amendment.
* "shall not be infringed"
Fear the govetnment that fears your gun
@@matthopkins9200 Hence the reason why they want to be the only ones to have them
"I've been so close to being charged with domestic violence, its incredible"
Lmfao I love the honesty 🤣
i did not expect you guys to have this opinion. but i am even more of a fan after watching this one. I wish everyone thought like this.
The firearms community is the best never have i seen a more liberally minded community Barry is a prime example a minute in and he is spitting some furious truth
Thank you for making this video. I was convicted of marijuana possession in November of 2000. Since then, I've straightened out my life, went to college and graduate school and am now a math professor in Southern California. Now, since I had a weed charge 16 years ago, I can't legally protect my family. My situation really sucks. Fortunately, my wife can own guns, but still. I would really like to have a collection, but nope. I can't even take possession of my Grandfathers guns including his WWII Colt 1911 sidearm.
This...was... awesome!!! You guys are great!
No bias, no one sided discussion. Pure truth.
I'm sharing the shit out of this.
Scariest moment of my life. Girlfriend and I got into an argument I grabbed my phone and ran out the door she yelled she was calling the police I told her to go ahead. Police met me halfway down the road. I was detained, my girlfriend had a red mark on her wrist where I guess my fingernail caught her. The officer said I know you didn't do anything but I have to arrest you under corporal punishment. It's a felony charge.
The prosecutor promptly threw it out of court. In fact we never even went to court, but it still cost me $5,000 and a 2 weeks of mental anguish wondering if I was going to have to give up my firearms.
A felony doesn't prevent a firearm purchase, just prevents a LEGAL purchase.
@D Madd11 how does his comment make him stupid? His point is even if you were to buy a gun illegally it doesn't suddenly make it all hunky dory. Not exactly hard to see his point lol
@@MrRedeyedJedi WOOOOOSSHHH
Any & ALL FELONIES = It is criminal to OWN, USE or POSES a FIREARM... POINT BLANK PERIOD.
Can use black powder & muzzle loaders.
Yep!
What? Do you think gun shops gonna give you a gun and call it an illegal purchase?
I know a guy that had mutual underage relations with his GF. The dad got him convicted as a felon for life. This is wrong
I had this happen when I was 12. My conviction is out of Colorado so the only way to restore my gun rights is a pardon.
My friend was charged with assault because he found out that his best friend had been sleeping with his girlfriend(and they had a baby together). So he told his friend to get out of his house and off of his property and his friend said “make me” and so he punched him and drug him outside and threw him into the street. Well his friend called the cops and charged him with assault. The jury found him not guilty because his friend was technically trespassing after he had been asked to leave and refused so my friend was justified in his actions. However , the court never sent the paperwork to the state of Tennessee to notify them that his charge was dropped and now when he tries to buy a gun he can’t pass a background check because the state thinks he still has an assault charge pending. He has tried to call the judge to send the paperwork and he can’t seem to get the judge on the phone. He has tried to call the state and the call will conveniently “fail” after they put him on hold. He can’t afford to hire a lawyer to help him with this because he can’t find a job for the same reason. The government has their ways of keeping guns out of your hands.
My stepdad was able to get his rights restored after he got together with my mom and wanted to be able to take me hunting. It does not happen very often. This was in VA. He hadn’t been able to buy guns for 20years.
I just got my firearm rights back after getting a weed felony 5 or 6 years ago. cost quite a bit and took some time but its possible. keep in mind my felony was nonviolent and I didnt have a weapon on me when I was arrested.
What state are u from?
Jhendka P. Not in Cali! 😹
Curious as to what state also.
Only reason I'm a felon is I couldn't afford a private counsel in 1990 when I was 20. I got in no trouble what so ever for 27 years until a traffic violation. I was in court the public defender actually said to me "ah chad..... Looks like you've been off the radar awhile..." 27 years later you never repay your debt.. Great video guy's good advice!
I live in NY State. Here there is a law that one complaint about domestic violence and you lose your gun rights. I know several guys who got divorced, their ex wives were bitter about the divorce settlement and made up fake stories about domestic violence. Presto, their guns get confiscated. It is totally unfair.
Serious question can you buy and own a gun if someone in the house is on probation?
Lets not forget back in the day you could have been convinced of a murder and then become a Sheriff
If you are a Democrat you can now
it is injustice period. as long like these laws exist then felons should not have to pay taxes. citizen or non citizen. the government will not stop until no one is free
I was convicted of a non violent felony in 96. I never got into a lick of trouble before or after, and got a full unconditional pardon this past July. I now own 5 guns. Try to do it the right way.
What state
@@jaytravel-12 Nevada
California doesn't hand out pardons. And last time I checked it was $3000 per attempt. Non violent felony that I never served prison time for and I can't oem a gun.
@@dustinhamilton3760 that's not good news because I am one year into certificate rehabilitation and trying to get governor pardon.... lawyers said it can take up to five years but I dont see it happening with the idiot we have as governor... This possession of cocaine was 17 years ago and it was literally 2 baby lines that was .2 of a gram
@@jaytravel-12 Nevada
Even if someone is convicted of a violent felony, people do change over time. There ought to be a restoration process such as, a special committee who examines the individual.
Never get the law involved in family issues!☻
I have a relative who had a felony on record for a violence against an officer. Was not allowed to own a gun. About 15 years later, living clean, he was able to appeal at the courts and he was granted back that right. He now conceal carries everyday.
the cops are just as big if not worse criminals then the crooks are.
Dude how did he do it i have the same charge
I have watched the content on this channel for a bit. Thank you iv8888 you're the most informative channel when dealing with firearms that I have seen.
Thank you for being logical, guys. We miss you, Barry! ❤️🇺🇲🙏Rest in Peace, sir.
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Could you do a top 5 guns or weapons for felons I miss all the 5 gun vids
11:11 I love that part. "Just one slap" RIP Barry
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Amen brother! I am a convicted felon of a non-violent, non-drug related crime here in the commonwealth of Massachusetts which is the WORST place to be a felon in. I did my time in prison for it many years ago and yet still, my firearms right will never be restored here in Massachusetts. That felony from years ago will follow me to the grave of I stay in Mass. unfortunately.
get an expunge, im from new haven ct, plenty of my friends who was convited felons, on gun charges, shootings, drugs, and even murder was able to get an expunge and get all their rights back to own a firearm..one of them is even a gun trainer, that grants certificates
This would be a mute point if a felon could have a valid hearing when their prison/parol is up to determine if they are considered a felon once they leave jail.
If a felon can't be trusted with a gun, then why are they out on the streets in the first place. If a felon wants to commit a crime with a gun, having a law against it won't stop them. If a felon chooses to live lawfully, then having a weapon only adds to the safety of society. If its safe enough to let a felon out of prison then they should have the same rights as everyone else. If they are not safe for society then let them rot behind bars.
Why do we think that someone who is a felon should not be able to defend their love ones from some some scum who decides to brake into their house and murder and rape their wife and children. The second amendment should be for all free people.
The law even now is getting out of control.
I would love to sit and listen to the knowledge they have to offer especially with my situation
If the 2nd amendment were fully restored , this would be a moot point .
I like your shirt, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath! Hell yea!
I'm not a felon but I appreciate that you fellas didn't judge folks!
I just found out that the Michigan state charge for resisting and obstruction is a felony. I think this even encompasses ID refusal if legally required to present your ID (I know Michigan is not stop and ID.) I don't see how this should bar you from ever owning a gun again.
While domestic violence is no joke, someone always going to jail is. So is the simple things you can go to jail for. Ive seen it many times. Such as taking keys or even their phone will get you a charge. I'm a totally different person 10years later. I barely recognize me. Lol. All the change is for the better and I dont drink anymore. I think I deserve the chance to hunt again. Its a huge part of our rural life.
“Mr. William Jefferson Clinton is the one who rammed that down our throats.”
Bravo, Barry sir. Bravo indeed.
I have been told that in the great state of Alabama if you are a felon of a non-violent crime, they do not take away your gun rights.
100% correct.
Here in NC have to wait 20 years then try and get them back. I guess you better hope nothing happens for 20 years. Total bs.
What forfeits anyone the right to protect themselves, family and property ?
The Dems are doing that
@DB Stevens That's why we should just take all the guns. No one is safe as long as there are 300mil guns on the streets.
@DB Stevens I'm sorry that my sarcasm wasn't apparent enough to you.
Since we're both making assumptions here, was I right in assuming based on your original comment, that you're in favor of upholding the current classification of felons as prohibited persons in regards to firearm ownership?
If you really believe all those things you said, it doesn't seem like a logical conclusion to come to. We agree that governments are abusive and sometimes genocidal. We agree that the incarceration rates definitely suggest there is a problem with government overreach. I would posit that the state indefinitely banning certain individuals from owning firearms when said individuals violate the states own made up rules is a violation of liberty and a glaring example of government overreach. Would you agree? Or are you the real cupcake who is afraid of another free man owning a firearm?
I got my California felony expunged while living in a whole different state.
Please explain