I think the single shot 12 ga is an overlooked gem. I still have my H&R that I bought in 1984. I put her away when I bought my first pump. Years later I brought out “punchy” for fun. I used that shot gun for years for rabbit, and deer hunting. I brought it back out when I bought a clay thrower and I was dusting the clays. I forgot how fun it was. It is light, easy to clean and it was inexpensive. She lets you know she’s there when you pull the trigger, but if you know her well, she will deliver rabbit, deer and what ever you ask of her. The best part is she is very low maintenance and high performance. What more can you ask?
I bought a used Winchester 370 single shot 12 ga, 30 inch full choke, when I was 25 yrs The guy bought it new when he was 25 yrs and kept it until he was 45 yrs and couldn't stand the kick anymore. When I reached my 50's I put a pad on it absolve the kick. I used it for 37 yrs and then bought a 12 ga pump for home defense. I still keep my single shot for varmint control.
I picked up a H&R single shot 223 for under$200 bucks at a gun show about 15 years ago. At that time H$R had a barrel program where you could pick up additional bbls for from$75-125 each. I added 22 Hornet, 44Magnum, 35 Whelen, 45-70 plus, over the years I added options like thumbhole laminate stocks..even got two more receivers all from 2nd hand sellers. Basically, I got 5 accurate rifles for under a grand over a 15 year stretch of scrounging. I like the utility of that.
I can carry my 3 guns, no problem, total weight, silenced, scoped etc is 10.5 lbs, like a loaded garand. 60 gr Subsonic Aquila .22 ammo is 100 rds to the lb and is BB gun quiet thru the 223 silencer and the .22 unit and you can have a 30 rd box mag of it in the gun. It's dark half of the time and once it's dark, there's almost no advantage for any caliber over the silenced, subsonic .22lr autorifle. The caliber swap takes just 10 seconds, and the .22 unit weighs just 3/4 lb. 60 gr 223 softpoints weigh 35 to the lb, ditto 9mm ammo. 308 ammo is 18 rds to the lb, 12 ga shells are 10 to the lb, .45 and .30Ak are 22 to the lb. So I get to carry 50x as much ammo as the 12 ga users, have 3x the effective range, pierce soft armor, conceal the rifle under a jacket (taken down) and the 12 ga user can't find ammo even 10% as well as I can, post shtf. He has no silencer, either. I figure on 50 rds each, 223 and .22lr, cause there's plenty more cached. I only carry 1 spare mag of the 9mm ammo, so that's just 5 ozs.
454pakr: Now 454pakr, my theory is that Twain ruined it for all of us who want to write humor! So why come along and throw water on my theory. Stop it! JWC
I remember my father told me that they sold Ak-47's and other automatic weapons on the street for about $75 where he lived. This was about 25 years ago before he moved to the US.
Comes from a different time of smithing. Modern nails are thin and bend easily, the expression comes from the time where nails were the large iron square cylinder chunks that you often see in media depicting the colonial/antebellum period, and those suckers were really tough. About as tough as you'd expect a 5 lb solid chunk of wrought iron to be.
Nails didnt used to bend until bush outsourced everything starting in the early nineties our nails came from turkey you could look at them hard and they would bend
I had an old 22 growing up that I kept on me camping until I was probably 16. I used that thing as a crowbar, a hammer, on one occasion I even used it as a fishing rod. That’s why I love kids rifles. They’re cheap, handy, light, and can replace half of the stuff in my truck.
An H&R single 20 was what my dad bought me when I was 10. That gun and 2 boxes of bird shot was less than $40. That was a great start for a kid getting started.
That's awesome. I never knew about H&R until I moved to Oregon. Grandparents have a 9-shot 22LR H&R revolver. It's fun to shoot and relatively reliable for a 22.
@@oregondude9411 I remember those, a top break model with a 6" barrel. Gosh, that was 45 years ago, hope I'm thinking about the right gun. We had one of those, wouldn't know where it went. Yeah, H&R was a great old company that made guns for everyday folks to use. They were sturdy, had blued finishes with walnut-stained wood. The blue was not like a Colt or a Winchester on any level and the wood was not walnut! Strictly for knocking around on the farm and being tossed behind the seat of the old truck, just in case you saw a Diamondback! I recommend #6 shot, works wonders on rattlesnakes... LOL!
@Nathan Lizarraga Its worth it as long the ammo are available and cheap. That gun can do anything outside speed plinking on youtube. And only TFB TV doing speed plinking competition.
Fun review. You forgot my Savage 410/22 over under. Taken deer with 410 slugs, shot tons of stuff with the 22, quail with bird shot... If I could only keep one, the savage would be it.
I've been shooting for about 50 years now. Started when I was knee high to a grasshopper. Nothin' wrong with any of the guns you chose. Mostly going to depend on whats available and what you can afford at the time. for simplicity keeping the calibers few is a good idea. Spending money on fewer types of ammo means having more ammo for the calibers you shoot. Reloading is always a good way to go. Two things generally happen when you shoot a lot. First you get to be a better shot with the guns and ammo that you shoot the most. Second is your wallet gets thinner and lighter as you push dollar bills out the end of your barrel.
My concealed carry is a Gen 2 Glock 19 (which is considered by many, myself included, to be just about the perfect concealed carry handgun) which is a police trade in. Other than holster wear, and the night sights needing to be replaced, the gun is in great condition. What I really love about it, though, is that it was previously owned by the Washington DC Metro Police. Like most of their Glocks, the serial number begins with MPDC instead of three letters followed by three numbers like retail Gen 2 Glocks. The reason why I love this so much is because Washington DC, and many of the higher-ups in their police department, are very anti-2nd Amendment and anti-concealed carry. It just feels like a big FU to the DC police department that my concealed carry gun used to be one of their duty guns.
Those ignorant fools need to up their reading. You would think an LEO would have at least some semblance of an idea of where gun crime comes from. More Guns , Less Crime by Dr. John Lott jr. good place to start.
Guys....303 has even to this day killed more deer in NZ than all other calibres combined due to govt cullers being issued this ammo for free. Its not as powerful as 30-06 but not a long way behind. I have a sporterised .303 and it still shoots 2" groups at 350yards.God only knows how many rounds have been through it but im guessing lots.
If you get a break action 12 gauge you can use adapters (they make Rifled ones up to 18+ inches long now) in a huge variety of calibers. You can also get adapters (or use old spent brass) and you can load them like a muzzleloader with black powder and shot or whatever turns you on. I really think a single shot, break action 12 gauge is the most utilitarian gun you can own. I mean you can get one cheap as hell, will work almost indefinitely and have a huge variety of options with it.
Nice interesting video. I have two of those guns, a 12 gauge 870P from 1984, a Mosin M44 (Izhevsk 1944) and a Rossi 62 SAC pump (S, L, LR) that compares with the Henry excepting that it can't easily be scoped. The Rossi has no disconnector so it will fire as fast as you pump. Good practical choices, gentlemen.
I've had my eye on a Savage Axis in .308. I totally agree with you guys...I have guns that are my babies, but I like them too much to expose them to the elements. But a cheap, reliable, beat all to hell 20 or 12 gauge topper, and a good, inexpensive .22 are necessities. I had an H&R 20 gauge topper that I loved, because it could be pressed into any service I needed, and I wouldn't cry if I dinged it. Picked up used at a gun show. I love my show ponies, but everybody needs a good workhorse or two. Interesting topic. Thanks for the vid!
We also have the alligator mob running south Florida They own all the property in Miami-Dade County and the Florida keys. They eat Russian mobsters for breakfast
Love the Henry Pump .22s. In Australia where semi-auto .22s are not available to most licensed shooters, pump-action rifles like the Henry fill that space for feral rabbits/cats/foxes where you may need a quick followup shot.
Evropa Khan I heard they fly in Canada, so must be Russia where they have motorcycle gangs. Although, I’m pretty sure they ride unicycles rather than motor bikes.
A 6,5x55 Swede is one very utilitarian rifle cartridge. With heavies it takes a moose easy, with lighter fmjhp's it shoots accurately out to 600yds and doesn't hack the meat of a smaller game and with very light and with a ballistic tip they turn smaller critters inside out. Recoil is lighter than .308 and down range ft.lbs. out at 100-200yds are the same and beyond, often more.
I got my first gun! Thanks to all the informative videos yall have made, I was able make some good points and convince my dad to why buying a gun would be a good idea.
Tetrahydrocannibinol getting my first gun on Friday by king the same thing! I’ve been through the struggle of have a whole liberal family, and they are finally understanding me. Feels great man. (Its for my 15th Birthday)
I use an O/U 12ga. for everything. Crows, small game, turkey, and deer. I cant shoot deer at long range but I never really have a chance to see long distances where I hunt. I used to think you needed 3 guns but falling in love with 1 specific gun has totally changed my thinking.
I would look at the 357 Mag revolver as more utilitarian. Shoot 38 Sp. or you can add a couple of shot shells in your options. And have all loaded at once. Of course the 44 mag/44 Special is an option too.
I got the .22 Henry lever action for that sole reason that it can use S/L/LR ammo. You can even mix them in the tube. Great little rifle. Great for prepping.
A .357 magnum revolver is more utilitarian than a semi-automatic pistol. You can use.38 special or .357 magnum and a revolver is very reliable and easy to use.
Old timer here. I would take a stainless wheelgun over a glock personally. A Taurus 962 would be perfect. 38/357/9mm 7 shot, in the mid 500s. Ammo versatility, plus not sensitive to different loads as auto loaders can be. From 38 soft loads to 357 mag 180 gr hard cast buffalo bore loads, to widely available (usually) 9mm with a quick cylinder change, it is 'bigly' utilitarian. Of course a Ruger, SW, Colt, all are great. but The Taurus is cheaper, and I have never had any issues with a Taurus wheelgun.
Miss the days (25 yes ago) when a Mauser, moson, or enfield could be found (well used as hammer etc) for 60 bucks. Most, after a cosmoline exorcism, shot remarkable. And a thousand rounds of stinky ammo was about the cost of one of the rifles. Many varmints in this valley gained respect of a crappy old milsurp with stinky ammo.
i never understood why people think you need a 3 1/2" magnum shell for turkey... a 2 3/4" shell works perfect. all it takes is 5 pellets to the head to effectively kill... i actually read a study that said a 3 1/2" magnum turkey load kicked harder than a .458 winchester i believe... its sad when a load used to kill a 20 pound bird kicks harder than a load used to kill an elephant
Detective John Kimble people are getting into a power craze... all they want is more power at any cost when they don't even need it. a load of #4 out of a 2 3/4" shell will kill a turkey just as cleanly.. you don't need to blow the head clean off
David Howe...just want you to know I totally agree with you, but I am part of the power craze because I like it! 2.75" works fine (and did for a long time) but I use 3" almost exclusively now and use the big boomers when I'm feeling frisky! Lol 😂
The kick argument is a nonesense. You cannot compare a shotgun and a rifle on the kick. You need to take into account what you are shooting at the target. A single bullet vs a load of pellets. Try to kill an elephant with a shotgun and I believe you will need something longer than 3 1/" if you are throwing pellets at it.
Damn good video. When you were defining utility at the start, the first thing that came to my mind as you were listing the criteria was "Mosin Nagant", looked down and saw one and had a nice smile! It's my go to gun to take out and have fun myself or to take out new shooters. The history behind it makes it even more interesting to them.
replace the Glock with a.357 revolver and have the option of 2 calibers and shot loads. not knocking your Glock but shot loads work better on snakes and rats.
Love the Remington you talked about around 13ish minutes into it, reminds me of my H&R Pardner Protector I picked up from Walmart for $179.99 and promptly fell in love with. Bought it to be a whatever gun, but I ended up replacing the Mossberg 590 with this as home protection! It shoulders better than my Mossberg and the cheap heavy steel would be one hell of a club if it ever came to that. Walmart special light put on the tube like yours as well I love it, though mine is lacking the camo duracoat you did to yours unfortunately.
Those 12 gauge cheap single shots have a new purpose now with the 7" rifled insert kits that shoot anything from .22-9mm-44mag plus .410 and 20 gauge so you get about 12 calibers to shoot out of a single shot break action and the kits are only a couple hundred bucks, gives you a lot of fun and survival application as well. It would be awesome to see a video on this, the results would be very interesting to see. Nice video!
A word of caution on the Remington 870's. Pay careful attention to the age of the gun and shell length they're chambered for. It's common (especially with the older original 870 Wingmaster's) to find them with aftermarket barrels that might say chambered for 3 inch shells; when in reality the receiver is only chambered for 2 and 3 quarter inch shells. If you try and put a 3 incher into one of those, it won't eject properly and will jam things up pretty dang quick.
I would love for ammo manufacturers to make a 90 grain .223 round. I've seen hand-loaders use them for deer and they performed quite well. I actually wander how well would an 80 grain that Hornidy makes would do against a deer.
Amen to the gen three. I carry my 17 while kayaking in the pacific off the California coast. Fits nicely inside my PFD and the salt water has not hurt it one bit. I simply clean it when I get back to the house and all is good.
calvingreene90 idk why so many people overlook sporter rifles. I own many previously “sporterized” milsurp rifles. If you’re gonna shoot it, no big deal with putting on another “correct” stock. Always keep the original close by, though.
@@artemisarrow179 Really? "The" Jews? The people who illustrated that "only accurate slings are interesting" and by accurate shooting brought down Goliath? The people who gave us the Uzi and who US troops and pilots learn from? Really?
@@alexcarter8807 Yeah, Israel has one of the largest weapons industries relative to population size. It's probably on par with the US in that regard. I personally don't see the problem with sportification. 99% of rifle usage falls under plinking or hunting (aka sporting). And sporting guns (including shotguns and pistols) tend to be reliable and rugged enough for self-defense.
Nothing wrong with a Savage Axis. I've got a .243, and a .223. I shot a 3.25" 5 shot group from 300 yards the other day with the .223. I've got both triggers set at 2lb 6oz. Great inexpensive rifles.
Nice compilation. As there are so many different people everyone has a plan. Me personally, I cross ref caliber. So i have a revolver and lever in 357/38. I also have fun target utility with a bolt 22 and a browning buckmark pistol.... and of course a 12g. Stevens pump. Eats and spits out every type of shell i've tried thus far... but i have t tried the cutshell yet. Lol.
There are only two repair materials you need, if you are going for utilitarian. WD-40 for things that aren't moving but should be, and duct tape for things that are moving that shouldn't.
Loved the bit about "people buy a nice expensive hunting rifle and then never take it out cause they're afraid it'll get dinged up". This exactly. I had a Sig Nightmare 1911 that was fantastic for carry, home defense, you name it..but it was expensive and I babied it. I ended up selling it and buying a CZ82 because I didnt want to have to think twice before actually USING the gun. Also I had a friend who bought a Glock. Spent nearly a grand upgrading it to make it the perfect carry gun. Once he was done he literally bought the exact same gun and kept it stock and carried that one instead because his upgraded one was too risky to use in the field lmao. It's crazy but this is some of the shit to think about
What's great about a single shot shotgun is all the tube inserts different companies make nowadays...literally can shoot any caliber you can think of basically from one gun. When I hear "utilitarian" I think of versatility. One on my list would be an over/under combo gun such as a Savage Model 42 (.22 over .410). Don't remember,but there was a gun maker that made a combo of your choice of either .308 or .223 (or maybe it was .222?) over 12 or 20 ga. Possibly an older Savage model?
A 12 gauge pump or break action is definitely a must. There is nothing in North America, and very few around the world, that cannot be brought down with a shotgun. It's versatile and devastating at close range. The only downside is range and recoil. I've made shots with slugs at over 100 yards and I've heard of people making shots at up 300 yards. My shotgun is my SHTF gun, as I plan on being as invisible as possible; I don't intend to even be seen beyond 100 yards. If I could have no other firearm, I'd have a shotgun.
I bought a NEF 12 gauge back in the 1980's for $97.00 at K-Mart. Best all around shotgun that I have. It can be 'converted' to black powder, shooting all sizes of shot, slugs, and even .72 caliber 'pumpkin balls'. The addition of shotgun inserts, allows one to shoot most pistol caliber calibers. I chose .45 Colt/410. And like you pointed out, with a 3" chamber, you can use it for turkey, as well. And then you can shoot regular 12 gauge ammunition through it, too.
You said it in this video. "If it gets stolen out of your truck" There is a huge crack down here in Florida(and I am sure elsewhere) on guns stolen from vehicles or homes where the victim of the crime is put at fault because a piece of their property was stolen. Why isn't a bank put at fault for a bank robbery because of all the random money laying around? I have had guns stolen. I was younger and could not afford a safe, or was too young and naive and thought that I would not have been burglarized in the first place. Why are victims constantly accused of being the cause of their loss or pain when it is the perpetrator of the crime, and usually a felony, that should be the one ostracized? Sometime tanks are stolen off of military bases, bulldozers off of construction sites, but a guy looses his truck gun is the detriment to society. A bulldozer can do a hell of a lot more damage than a Mossberg 500.
Eric, I know this is off topic, but this pertains to the 600 yard shooting vids. I think it will be interesting to see you shoot an M91/30 at that range. Not decked out or anything, just a normal off-the-shelf 91/30.
my first gun was a stevens (savage arms now) break action shotgun I got from my grandpa. full choke 35 in barrel, kicks like a mule, but my favorite part of single shot guns is that they teach you how to make your shots count. especially for new shooters
I have an M77 in 22/250. Stainless with a laminate stock. I have a suppressor on it that makes it slightly heavy but what a piece of kit. Bought it second hand and I've found its bang on accurate
I acually just bought my first gun today just having to wait for the background check/waiting period to end. Just wanted to say that it was your vids that got me into guns and for that I thank you.
Just watched this video and exactly a year ago yesterday I bought a police trade in Glock 21 that was a little worn from the holster but seemed like it had never been shot looking at all the internal parts and the rifling it's one of my favorite guns and I got it for 350
I love a .22 that takes s, l, or lr. I grew up shooting cb's at my cousins place learning firearm safety and plinking. Suppressors haven't been widely available in my area for long, so back then they were unheard of.
Yes you can you can even bring it out alone. The only firearm you cant have are handguns. But you can't buy guns and ammo until your 18. But you can posses them.
I gotta say, a handgun that never gets recognized for its quality and affordability, is the Canik line of handguns. I've never felt a better polymer frame handgun at a $500 price tag and get so many good things out of the box. The triggers are phenomenal. You get extra mags, all optics plates, a solid holster, the list goes on
I think one of the ultimate utilitarian guns is the "Drilling". Not the old thing from the German Luftwaffe, but the modern version. You can have three different calibers loaded at once, and can chose a fourth one just by sliding an "inlay" into one of the barrels. Downside: Since they're difficult to make they're a bit costly.
I know this is 2 years old, but even back then. A 223 single shot was very close to an AR15 in price. A 12g single shot, good luck finding one under $150 and even that was really cheap. No pawnshop I have seen in the past near 20 years has deals. Unless you consider roughly 10% less to 30% more then new as a good deal. My luck with pawnshop on firearms is they buy for 1/10th the price and sell for no less then 10% below new, but most the time above new price.
I can think of a couple other utilitarian guns, but my #1 is the Savage 24F 30-30/12 gauge. It was also available in several other calibers including 223/12 and also in 22/410. A more modern version called the model 42 is 22/410 as well.
Hunter from Germany here: No clue how the supply is for you guys in the US, but our go-to utilitarian rifle is the Mauser 98. It's incredibly safe, reliable and easy to use with pretty little need for maintainance. You can pick up dirt cheap WW2 surplus rifles or rifles from elderly hunters. Pop a cheap scope on it and shoot anything in Europe up to like 200 meters. The caliber 8x57 is cheap, packs a lot more bang than a .308 (7,62x51) and is, at least with the soft points I use, absolutely and instantaneously(!) lethal to anything. So if you come across some old '98 in the proper 8x57IS caliber, I more than recommend to try it out. Best wishes and a "Waidmannsheil" from Germany :)
My personal favorite utilitarian gun is my Thompson center contender g2 can be pistol or rifle very simple pretty much any cartridge on the planet can be fired out of it with a barrel change
I think the single shot 12 ga is an overlooked gem. I still have my H&R that I bought in 1984. I put her away when I bought my first pump. Years later I brought out “punchy” for fun. I used that shot gun for years for rabbit, and deer hunting. I brought it back out when I bought a clay thrower and I was dusting the clays. I forgot how fun it was. It is light, easy to clean and it was inexpensive. She lets you know she’s there when you pull the trigger, but if you know her well, she will deliver rabbit, deer and what ever you ask of her. The best part is she is very low maintenance and high performance. What more can you ask?
I bought a used Winchester 370 single shot 12 ga, 30 inch full choke, when I was 25 yrs The guy bought it new when he was 25 yrs and kept it until he was 45 yrs and couldn't stand the kick anymore. When I reached my 50's I put a pad on it absolve the kick. I used it for 37 yrs and then bought a 12 ga pump for home defense. I still keep my single shot for varmint control.
I have an h&r .58 cal. Mostly used for noise making but shoot it now and then. Pait $75.
I still use my hr 12 gauge my dad bought me when I was 10. I'm 55 now.highly overlooked.
I got a 3 break actions single shots and they're among my favorites! A 16 & two 20ga. Looking for a 12 ga. Now.
Multi caliber adapters are also great for single shot shotguns.
There's a group that you have forgotten...."buying the top of the line, and treating it like shit." They're out there, I've met many.
i hate to admit that this is me with guns but im frugal as hell with everything else
I'm in the group of buying a cheapo gun and treating it like a $3000 gun
Might as well get your moneys worth
@@Zurgo-fl1kx nothing wrong with taking care of what's yours.
"no gun is disposable" i think the liberator would like to disagree with you there XD
Isaac lichtenstein have you seen a S & W m & p 15-22? It's the Bic lighter of .22's.
Laughs in Welrod...
Anthony Kuriger welrods aint cheap mate
Laughs in garbage rod
Jason .C the garbage rod can do a backflip on my focking dick
I picked up a H&R single shot 223 for under$200 bucks at a gun show about 15 years ago. At that time H$R had a barrel program where you could pick up additional bbls for from$75-125 each. I added 22 Hornet, 44Magnum, 35 Whelen, 45-70 plus, over the years I added options like thumbhole laminate stocks..even got two more receivers all from 2nd hand sellers. Basically, I got 5 accurate rifles for under a grand over a 15 year stretch of scrounging. I like the utility of that.
The trouble with those utilitarian guns is that now I have to buy a truck to throw it into.
Lol!
My "truck" gun rides in the back of a 60's beetle.
454pakr or get a hog and hang it on a side. Easy to grab as you ride.
I can carry my 3 guns, no problem, total weight, silenced, scoped etc is 10.5 lbs, like a loaded garand. 60 gr Subsonic Aquila .22 ammo is 100 rds to the lb and is BB gun quiet thru the 223 silencer and the .22 unit and you can have a 30 rd box mag of it in the gun. It's dark half of the time and once it's dark, there's almost no advantage for any caliber over the silenced, subsonic .22lr autorifle. The caliber swap takes just 10 seconds, and the .22 unit weighs just 3/4 lb. 60 gr 223 softpoints weigh 35 to the lb, ditto 9mm ammo. 308 ammo is 18 rds to the lb, 12 ga shells are 10 to the lb, .45 and .30Ak are 22 to the lb. So I get to carry 50x as much ammo as the 12 ga users, have 3x the effective range, pierce soft armor, conceal the rifle under a jacket (taken down) and the 12 ga user can't find ammo even 10% as well as I can, post shtf. He has no silencer, either. I figure on 50 rds each, 223 and .22lr, cause there's plenty more cached. I only carry 1 spare mag of the 9mm ammo, so that's just 5 ozs.
454pakr:
Now 454pakr, my theory is that Twain ruined it for all of us who want to write humor! So why come along and throw water on my theory.
Stop it!
JWC
I remember my father told me that they sold Ak-47's and other automatic weapons on the street for about $75 where he lived. This was about 25 years ago before he moved to the US.
They were 175 in usa years back
Your father Yost to live in Africa. That's true you can get them for about 150 dollars now. There cheap there.
My dad "liberated" an AK-47 from a third world hellhole for free.
@Homer Simpson the ban was in 1986
$200 in Chicago rn. Might get shot trying to buy one though.
It's hard to get more utilitarian than a good old pump action 12 gauge. The amount of uses is unmatched by any other firearm.
Eh, I’d say an AR or AK gets up there.
I dont understand the saying "tough as nails"
I cant tell you how many nails I've had bend
Maybe i shouldn't ever be a carpenter idk
Comes from a different time of smithing. Modern nails are thin and bend easily, the expression comes from the time where nails were the large iron square cylinder chunks that you often see in media depicting the colonial/antebellum period, and those suckers were really tough. About as tough as you'd expect a 5 lb solid chunk of wrought iron to be.
But nails used to be square not round and think that's were that saying comes from
Nails didnt used to bend until bush outsourced everything starting in the early nineties our nails came from turkey you could look at them hard and they would bend
There's different kinds of nails, nowadays a lot of nails you buy are cheap and made to a price to he "good enough" for a purpose.
I'm not an american or english but i heard that the saying came from crucifying when the romans conquered europe.
I had an old 22 growing up that I kept on me camping until I was probably 16. I used that thing as a crowbar, a hammer, on one occasion I even used it as a fishing rod. That’s why I love kids rifles. They’re cheap, handy, light, and can replace half of the stuff in my truck.
Back in my younger days, the most common utilitarian rifle was a .303 or perhaps a 30-30 winchester
a good ol lee enfield will drop anything with a good shot
An H&R single 20 was what my dad bought me when I was 10. That gun and 2 boxes of bird shot was less than $40. That was a great start for a kid getting started.
That's awesome. I never knew about H&R until I moved to Oregon. Grandparents have a 9-shot 22LR H&R revolver. It's fun to shoot and relatively reliable for a 22.
@@oregondude9411 I remember those, a top break model with a 6" barrel. Gosh, that was 45 years ago, hope I'm thinking about the right gun. We had one of those, wouldn't know where it went.
Yeah, H&R was a great old company that made guns for everyday folks to use. They were sturdy, had blued finishes with walnut-stained wood. The blue was not like a Colt or a Winchester on any level and the wood was not walnut! Strictly for knocking around on the farm and being tossed behind the seat of the old truck, just in case you saw a Diamondback!
I recommend #6 shot, works wonders on rattlesnakes... LOL!
Yup same here, a Harrington And Richardson Junior Model 20ga
And I was10.
It's a little harder to find a $150 mosin these days
stupidbluebird I got a good one for 120 a couple months ago
Moist nugget
pawn shops are a good place for mosins
@Nathan Lizarraga Because even TFB tv admit they are cheap.
@Nathan Lizarraga Its worth it as long the ammo are available and cheap. That gun can do anything outside speed plinking on youtube. And only TFB TV doing speed plinking competition.
Fun review. You forgot my Savage 410/22 over under. Taken deer with 410 slugs, shot tons of stuff with the 22, quail with bird shot... If I could only keep one, the savage would be it.
Except Mosins cost $300 now
slushbubs your not kidding. i dont know much but i know that online it says they are 70, in gun stores its like 320!
slushbubs lol I bought an m38 at an auction in December for $80.
Tyler Hulan I'll give you $85 for it
slushbubs lol I bet you would. I'm keeping this one forever. Its got some cool trench art carved into the stock.
Damn! I want to see a pic of that! Sounds neat.
I love how the mosin makes it into like 90% of the 5 guns videos. It's such a bad ass rifle.
If you have a 22, a 12ga and a full power rifle (30-06, 270, 280, etc) and there's nothing you can't do
A 308 counts as full powered?
Except good long range hunting...Weatherby gang...or 300 win mag
Love 22mag always have to have them kill everything in my woods with it
And a medium bore sidearm.
So 2 12 gauges a 22 a 9mm a ar15 and an sks I should be good right?
I've been shooting for about 50 years now. Started when I was knee high to a grasshopper. Nothin' wrong with any of the guns you chose. Mostly going to depend on whats available and what you can afford at the time. for simplicity keeping the calibers few is a good idea. Spending money on fewer types of ammo means having more ammo for the calibers you shoot. Reloading is always a good way to go. Two things generally happen when you shoot a lot. First you get to be a better shot with the guns and ammo that you shoot the most. Second is your wallet gets thinner and lighter as you push dollar bills out the end of your barrel.
Absolutely. However, having a wider range of calibers comes in handy when different ammo in not available.
@@joehaney5186 that's when you look into multiple caliber guns
@@davidgomez5116 that's what I said.
@@joehaney5186 agreed then
Im surprised a 410 or 38 wasn't on that list for the ammo capabilities
Came here cause I knew I'd see a mosin. I used to hunt brontosaurus with a mosin, now ask yourself, when's the last time you've seen a brontosaurus
Just saw one the other day, my friend shot with an m-24, it ignored him. I shot it with my Mosin and it fell over.
History channel shows them running around the Congo
Yep, just like a video can’t be done without the work Glock being mentioned.
Thank you for your service, now we don't need to carry Mosins any longer in fear of brontosaurs.
Mosin Nagant: A club with a barrel and trigger.
I love mine.
My concealed carry is a Gen 2 Glock 19 (which is considered by many, myself included, to be just about the perfect concealed carry handgun) which is a police trade in. Other than holster wear, and the night sights needing to be replaced, the gun is in great condition. What I really love about it, though, is that it was previously owned by the Washington DC Metro Police. Like most of their Glocks, the serial number begins with MPDC instead of three letters followed by three numbers like retail Gen 2 Glocks. The reason why I love this so much is because Washington DC, and many of the higher-ups in their police department, are very anti-2nd Amendment and anti-concealed carry. It just feels like a big FU to the DC police department that my concealed carry gun used to be one of their duty guns.
Those ignorant fools need to up their reading. You would think an LEO would have at least some semblance of an idea of where gun crime comes from.
More Guns , Less Crime by Dr. John Lott jr. good place to start.
Guys....303 has even to this day killed more deer in NZ than all other calibres combined due to govt cullers being issued this ammo for free. Its not as powerful as 30-06 but not a long way behind. I have a sporterised .303 and it still shoots 2" groups at 350yards.God only knows how many rounds have been through it but im guessing lots.
@@dougfisher5687 .303 has plenty of power. Good big game calibre.👍
I think about Barry every time i hear cut shells
White&Privileged,
Same here. RIP Barry
MoreAmerican rip barry!
White&Privileged same it literally causes me to tear up a bit. Been watching since I was a little kid
White&Privileged me too 😔
Thystaff Thywill
🙄
Only the stupid, uneducated, unskilled, and lazy ones maybe.
I am looking for a M1 Garand, for many reasons. My dad used it in WWII and Korea. And they are good and hold up.
If you get a break action 12 gauge you can use adapters (they make Rifled ones up to 18+ inches long now) in a huge variety of calibers. You can also get adapters (or use old spent brass) and you can load them like a muzzleloader with black powder and shot or whatever turns you on. I really think a single shot, break action 12 gauge is the most utilitarian gun you can own. I mean you can get one cheap as hell, will work almost indefinitely and have a huge variety of options with it.
Nice interesting video. I have two of those guns, a 12 gauge 870P from 1984, a Mosin M44 (Izhevsk 1944) and a Rossi 62 SAC pump (S, L, LR) that compares with the Henry excepting that it can't easily be scoped. The Rossi has no disconnector so it will fire as fast as you pump. Good practical choices, gentlemen.
I clicked on this thinking "top of the list HAS to be a beater 12 gauge!" YEEAAAH BUDDY!
Well shotgun launches multiple projectile at one shot
Plus its smooth bore no need to clean every now and then
I've had my eye on a Savage Axis in .308. I totally agree with you guys...I have guns that are my babies, but I like them too much to expose them to the elements. But a cheap, reliable, beat all to hell 20 or 12 gauge topper, and a good, inexpensive .22 are necessities. I had an H&R 20 gauge topper that I loved, because it could be pressed into any service I needed, and I wouldn't cry if I dinged it. Picked up used at a gun show. I love my show ponies, but everybody needs a good workhorse or two. Interesting topic. Thanks for the vid!
The Remington 870 is the best shotgun you can buy in my opinion. I love mine, I use that more the any other shotgun I have.
Jason Carskadon try the 870 wing master
Man, the USA must be a rough place to live. Farmers having to deal with motorcycle gangs of bears.. that's rough.
Adam M A motorcycle gang bear kidnapped my drinking buddy Wesley last night. I miss him already.
We we do have hells angels so close enough
It gets worse...
We also have the alligator mob running south Florida
They own all the property in Miami-Dade County and the Florida keys. They eat Russian mobsters for breakfast
The struggle is real
Love the Henry Pump .22s. In Australia where semi-auto .22s are not available to most licensed shooters, pump-action rifles like the Henry fill that space for feral rabbits/cats/foxes where you may need a quick followup shot.
I find myself strangely drawn to this category of gun, I don't know why lol
@The American Patriot There is beauty in simplicity.
"motorcycle gang of bears".. I feel like that's a Canadian or Russian joke.. 🤔😂
Or Key West.
Or both
Evropa Khan I heard they fly in Canada, so must be Russia where they have motorcycle gangs. Although, I’m pretty sure they ride unicycles rather than motor bikes.
A 6,5x55 Swede is one very utilitarian rifle cartridge. With heavies it takes a moose easy, with lighter fmjhp's it shoots accurately out to 600yds and doesn't hack the meat of a smaller game and with very light and with a ballistic tip they turn smaller critters inside out. Recoil is lighter than .308 and down range ft.lbs. out at 100-200yds are the same and beyond, often more.
I got my first gun! Thanks to all the informative videos yall have made, I was able make some good points and convince my dad to why buying a gun would be a good idea.
Tetrahydrocannibinol getting my first gun on Friday by king the same thing! I’ve been through the struggle of have a whole liberal family, and they are finally understanding me. Feels great man. (Its for my 15th Birthday)
Just be safe with it and continue to make him feel it was a good decision
I use an O/U 12ga. for everything. Crows, small game, turkey, and deer. I cant shoot deer at long range but I never really have a chance to see long distances where I hunt. I used to think you needed 3 guns but falling in love with 1 specific gun has totally changed my thinking.
I would look at the 357 Mag revolver as more utilitarian. Shoot 38 Sp. or you can add a couple of shot shells in your options. And have all loaded at once. Of course the 44 mag/44 Special is an option too.
As if a mosin is $150 anymore
Exactly. Cheapest I can find is over $1000.
@@IceAge20017 Why they are going for 300
@@IceAge20017 $350 for a carbine version, $400 for a regular version out where I am.
Not Vladimir Putin you can buy em at cabaleas for like $350
Exactly all these channels on UA-cam the prices r always off prob depends on area as well
I got the .22 Henry lever action for that sole reason that it can use S/L/LR ammo. You can even mix them in the tube. Great little rifle. Great for prepping.
12 gauge singles are awesome but I’ve always liked the inserts you could get that could ultimately put any round through it and it’d be fine
A .357 magnum revolver is more utilitarian than a semi-automatic pistol. You can use.38 special or .357 magnum and a revolver is very reliable and easy to use.
Old timer here. I would take a stainless wheelgun over a glock personally. A Taurus 962 would be perfect. 38/357/9mm 7 shot, in the mid 500s. Ammo versatility, plus not sensitive to different loads as auto loaders can be. From 38 soft loads to 357 mag 180 gr hard cast buffalo bore loads, to widely available (usually) 9mm with a quick cylinder change, it is 'bigly' utilitarian. Of course a Ruger, SW, Colt, all are great. but The Taurus is cheaper, and I have never had any issues with a Taurus wheelgun.
No 4 inch .357?
I know, a four inch 357 or 44 are both more versatile than a glock for sure...
Glocks come in .357
@Mr S, not .357 magnum...
I know, I'm just being pedantic. Heh
Mr S Glocks come in 357 not .357 357 SIG (.355 caliber) .357 Magnum (.357 caliber)
I miss the old man. He was cool.
Miss the days (25 yes ago) when a Mauser, moson, or enfield could be found (well used as hammer etc) for 60 bucks. Most, after a cosmoline exorcism, shot remarkable. And a thousand rounds of stinky ammo was about the cost of one of the rifles. Many varmints in this valley gained respect of a crappy old milsurp with stinky ammo.
i never understood why people think you need a 3 1/2" magnum shell for turkey... a 2 3/4" shell works perfect. all it takes is 5 pellets to the head to effectively kill... i actually read a study that said a 3 1/2" magnum turkey load kicked harder than a .458 winchester i believe... its sad when a load used to kill a 20 pound bird kicks harder than a load used to kill an elephant
Those 3.5 inchers sure are fun though!!! Sending that kind of power down range just makes me happy! :D
Detective John Kimble I'm just saying you don't need a giant shotshell to kill a 20 pound bird.
Detective John Kimble people are getting into a power craze... all they want is more power at any cost when they don't even need it. a load of #4 out of a 2 3/4" shell will kill a turkey just as cleanly.. you don't need to blow the head clean off
David Howe...just want you to know I totally agree with you, but I am part of the power craze because I like it! 2.75" works fine (and did for a long time) but I use 3" almost exclusively now and use the big boomers when I'm feeling frisky! Lol 😂
The kick argument is a nonesense. You cannot compare a shotgun and a rifle on the kick. You need to take into account what you are shooting at the target. A single bullet vs a load of pellets. Try to kill an elephant with a shotgun and I believe you will need something longer than 3 1/" if you are throwing pellets at it.
Damn good video. When you were defining utility at the start, the first thing that came to my mind as you were listing the criteria was "Mosin Nagant", looked down and saw one and had a nice smile! It's my go to gun to take out and have fun myself or to take out new shooters. The history behind it makes it even more interesting to them.
it's 2017, where have you found a mosin for $150?
Gunbroker
Moist nugget
I found one for $100 and a free box of ammo but the stock was all cut up and I just put a new one on and it’s good.
Lol I know the feeling last one I bought was a 91/30 for 79.99 at Dunhams when I was 20 35 now lol those were the days
Got mine from my LGS for 185$
Been a while since I’ve watched this channel and I forgot how much I enjoy listening to you guys talk about guns. Keep up the great content!
replace the Glock with a.357 revolver and have the option of 2 calibers and shot loads. not knocking your Glock but shot loads work better on snakes and rats.
Wesley Kish Some single-action .357's even have 9mm conversion cylinders
They make shot loads in 9mm.
@@MikeDCWeld And?
I still expect him to say "Eric and Barry"
Love the Remington you talked about around 13ish minutes into it, reminds me of my H&R Pardner Protector I picked up from Walmart for $179.99 and promptly fell in love with. Bought it to be a whatever gun, but I ended up replacing the Mossberg 590 with this as home protection! It shoulders better than my Mossberg and the cheap heavy steel would be one hell of a club if it ever came to that. Walmart special light put on the tube like yours as well I love it, though mine is lacking the camo duracoat you did to yours unfortunately.
Those 12 gauge cheap single shots have a new purpose now with the 7" rifled insert kits that shoot anything from .22-9mm-44mag plus .410 and 20 gauge so you get about 12 calibers to shoot out of a single shot break action and the kits are only a couple hundred bucks, gives you a lot of fun and survival application as well. It would be awesome to see a video on this, the results would be very interesting to see. Nice video!
also I love when chad picks an old military surplus gun and then gets so eager to explain and reason why he chose it lol
IV8888,
My HR 12 gauge Topper is my "something goes bump in the night" gun. It has never failed and is a no brainer.
A word of caution on the Remington 870's. Pay careful attention to the age of the gun and shell length they're chambered for. It's common (especially with the older original 870 Wingmaster's) to find them with aftermarket barrels that might say chambered for 3 inch shells; when in reality the receiver is only chambered for 2 and 3 quarter inch shells. If you try and put a 3 incher into one of those, it won't eject properly and will jam things up pretty dang quick.
I would have thought you would have picked something of the same caliber. Like a 357 it works for both rifle and pistol .
omg been waiting for a 5 guns video for so long thank u
I would love for ammo manufacturers to make a 90 grain .223 round. I've seen hand-loaders use them for deer and they performed quite well. I actually wander how well would an 80 grain that Hornidy makes would do against a deer.
Although not recommend, ive killed deer with 17hmr. But maybe check out the 70gr TSX loads. Theyd do good if the shot was perfect
Amen to the gen three. I carry my 17 while kayaking in the pacific off the California coast. Fits nicely inside my PFD and the salt water has not hurt it one bit. I simply clean it when I get back to the house and all is good.
Why do all there military rifles have to be sporterized . My grand dad to this day uses a k98 that his dad brought back from ww2
They call it sport so the Jews won’t try to ban it
Because the non-sporterized are collector items and are too expensive too be a utilitarian gun.
calvingreene90 idk why so many people overlook sporter rifles. I own many previously “sporterized” milsurp rifles. If you’re gonna shoot it, no big deal with putting on another “correct” stock. Always keep the original close by, though.
@@artemisarrow179 Really? "The" Jews? The people who illustrated that "only accurate slings are interesting" and by accurate shooting brought down Goliath? The people who gave us the Uzi and who US troops and pilots learn from? Really?
@@alexcarter8807 Yeah, Israel has one of the largest weapons industries relative to population size. It's probably on par with the US in that regard.
I personally don't see the problem with sportification. 99% of rifle usage falls under plinking or hunting (aka sporting). And sporting guns (including shotguns and pistols) tend to be reliable and rugged enough for self-defense.
Nothing wrong with a Savage Axis. I've got a .243, and a .223. I shot a 3.25" 5 shot group from 300 yards the other day with the .223. I've got both triggers set at 2lb 6oz. Great inexpensive rifles.
Also really great for kids and their first gun hunt nice simple and accurate rifle
Agreed. Ruger American is in that same category. Very accurate for the price
I would love to see a top 5 budget, collectable, or self-defense revolver video. Thanks, these videos are always great!
Ammo availability means a lot. My old pump 12 gauge Mossberg always works.
Nice compilation. As there are so many different people everyone has a plan. Me personally, I cross ref caliber. So i have a revolver and lever in 357/38. I also have fun target utility with a bolt 22 and a browning buckmark pistol.... and of course a 12g. Stevens pump. Eats and spits out every type of shell i've tried thus far... but i have t tried the cutshell yet. Lol.
A .30-06 will go from 120 grain to 220 grain. Everything from wood chucks to Cape buffalo...
Love my savage axis 30 06
I've got a couple of 240s laying around
@@dakotamcgee4577
240's? Hand load or factory?
Robert Cherry either way it’s a heavy round that many would like
I've read with handloads you can go as low as a 55 grain in 3006
There are only two repair materials you need, if you are going for utilitarian. WD-40 for things that aren't moving but should be, and duct tape for things that are moving that shouldn't.
forgot the oil and a shoelace
woops.
WD-40 is not a good lubricant; it leaves a gummy film. Use something such as CLP.
2 pack epoxy and a packet of thumbtacks.
And bailing wire.
As for the single shot shotgun you can use it as a muzzle loader or any number of inserts are made for it.
Loved the bit about "people buy a nice expensive hunting rifle and then never take it out cause they're afraid it'll get dinged up". This exactly. I had a Sig Nightmare 1911 that was fantastic for carry, home defense, you name it..but it was expensive and I babied it. I ended up selling it and buying a CZ82 because I didnt want to have to think twice before actually USING the gun. Also I had a friend who bought a Glock. Spent nearly a grand upgrading it to make it the perfect carry gun. Once he was done he literally bought the exact same gun and kept it stock and carried that one instead because his upgraded one was too risky to use in the field lmao. It's crazy but this is some of the shit to think about
Marlin 336 in 30-30 is my choice.
What's great about a single shot shotgun is all the tube inserts different companies make nowadays...literally can shoot any caliber you can think of basically from one gun.
When I hear "utilitarian" I think of versatility. One on my list would be an over/under combo gun such as a Savage Model 42 (.22 over .410). Don't remember,but there was a gun maker that made a combo of your choice of either .308 or .223 (or maybe it was .222?) over 12 or 20 ga. Possibly an older Savage model?
A 12 gauge pump or break action is definitely a must. There is nothing in North America, and very few around the world, that cannot be brought down with a shotgun. It's versatile and devastating at close range. The only downside is range and recoil. I've made shots with slugs at over 100 yards and I've heard of people making shots at up 300 yards. My shotgun is my SHTF gun, as I plan on being as invisible as possible; I don't intend to even be seen beyond 100 yards.
If I could have no other firearm, I'd have a shotgun.
I bought a NEF 12 gauge back in the 1980's for $97.00 at K-Mart. Best all around shotgun that I have. It can be 'converted' to black powder, shooting all sizes of shot, slugs, and even .72 caliber 'pumpkin balls'. The addition of shotgun inserts, allows one to shoot most pistol caliber calibers. I chose .45 Colt/410.
And like you pointed out, with a 3" chamber, you can use it for turkey, as well.
And then you can shoot regular 12 gauge ammunition through it, too.
You said it in this video. "If it gets stolen out of your truck" There is a huge crack down here in Florida(and I am sure elsewhere) on guns stolen from vehicles or homes where the victim of the crime is put at fault because a piece of their property was stolen. Why isn't a bank put at fault for a bank robbery because of all the random money laying around? I have had guns stolen. I was younger and could not afford a safe, or was too young and naive and thought that I would not have been burglarized in the first place. Why are victims constantly accused of being the cause of their loss or pain when it is the perpetrator of the crime, and usually a felony, that should be the one ostracized? Sometime tanks are stolen off of military bases, bulldozers off of construction sites, but a guy looses his truck gun is the detriment to society. A bulldozer can do a hell of a lot more damage than a Mossberg 500.
It's all about whether or not they can more than if they should. Individuals are easier scapegoats than corporate or military entities.
Eric, I know this is off topic, but this pertains to the 600 yard shooting vids. I think it will be interesting to see you shoot an M91/30 at that range. Not decked out or anything, just a normal off-the-shelf 91/30.
my first gun was a stevens (savage arms now) break action shotgun I got from my grandpa. full choke 35 in barrel, kicks like a mule, but my favorite part of single shot guns is that they teach you how to make your shots count. especially for new shooters
I have an M77 in 22/250. Stainless with a laminate stock. I have a suppressor on it that makes it slightly heavy but what a piece of kit. Bought it second hand and I've found its bang on accurate
I have 3 pump action shotguns (870 is 1 of 3), all 3 in 12 gauge, and love them all.
I'm surprised I didn't see an AK or AK platform weapon on the table
I acually just bought my first gun today just having to wait for the background check/waiting period to end. Just wanted to say that it was your vids that got me into guns and for that I thank you.
Yep. Single shot, break action shotgun. That gun is just about as simple and effective as a firearm can be.
I was laughing when you said mosin at the end cause I have one but I almost died when you said british 303 ,cause I have that too!
Just watched this video and exactly a year ago yesterday I bought a police trade in Glock 21 that was a little worn from the holster but seemed like it had never been shot looking at all the internal parts and the rifling it's one of my favorite guns and I got it for 350
I love a .22 that takes s, l, or lr. I grew up shooting cb's at my cousins place learning firearm safety and plinking. Suppressors haven't been widely available in my area for long, so back then they were unheard of.
hello thanks for the videos. i have a 20 gauge Ithaca gun single shot with a modified barrel. any thoughts
The only firearm I have is a 1909 remington .22 pump action.
Unfortunaly I never fire it 'cause I'm 16 and not alowed to own it.
Yes you can you can even bring it out alone. The only firearm you cant have are handguns. But you can't buy guns and ammo until your 18. But you can posses them.
I gotta say, a handgun that never gets recognized for its quality and affordability, is the Canik line of handguns. I've never felt a better polymer frame handgun at a $500 price tag and get so many good things out of the box. The triggers are phenomenal. You get extra mags, all optics plates, a solid holster, the list goes on
I think one of the ultimate utilitarian guns is the "Drilling".
Not the old thing from the German Luftwaffe, but the modern version.
You can have three different calibers loaded at once, and can chose a fourth one just by sliding an "inlay" into one of the barrels.
Downside:
Since they're difficult to make they're a bit costly.
I think a 6.5 grendel or a 30-30 levergun is a more practical choice than a 5.56, personally.
Cade Johnson 30/30 12ga pump and .22lr should have been in top three
"With utility comes usefulness" what do you think the word utility means.....
I know this is 2 years old, but even back then.
A 223 single shot was very close to an AR15 in price.
A 12g single shot, good luck finding one under $150 and even that was really cheap. No pawnshop I have seen in the past near 20 years has deals. Unless you consider roughly 10% less to 30% more then new as a good deal. My luck with pawnshop on firearms is they buy for 1/10th the price and sell for no less then 10% below new, but most the time above new price.
You're right about pawn shops, but you can haggle. You can likely get stuff a lot less than the asking price at a pawn shop. You won't at Cabelas.
I can think of a couple other utilitarian guns, but my #1 is the Savage 24F 30-30/12 gauge. It was also available in several other calibers including 223/12 and also in 22/410. A more modern version called the model 42 is 22/410 as well.
That is real utility.
For a handgun a stainless revolver in 357 magnum you can shoot 38special, 38 S&W, whatever. There are a lot of old Ruger GP100s out there.
I've had my old Glock 22 Gen 2 since 1994. Still solid. Goes bang every time and hits where I point it.
Hunter from Germany here: No clue how the supply is for you guys in the US, but our go-to utilitarian rifle is the Mauser 98. It's incredibly safe, reliable and easy to use with pretty little need for maintainance.
You can pick up dirt cheap WW2 surplus rifles or rifles from elderly hunters. Pop a cheap scope on it and shoot anything in Europe up to like 200 meters.
The caliber 8x57 is cheap, packs a lot more bang than a .308 (7,62x51) and is, at least with the soft points I use, absolutely and instantaneously(!) lethal to anything.
So if you come across some old '98 in the proper 8x57IS caliber, I more than recommend to try it out.
Best wishes and a "Waidmannsheil" from Germany :)
Picked a M77 mk2 paddle stock up a few months ago, 91' in .223. Even has the same scope as this one! Probably my favorite gun in the safe right now!
My personal favorite utilitarian gun is my Thompson center contender g2 can be pistol or rifle very simple pretty much any cartridge on the planet can be fired out of it with a barrel change
I feel like I've seen this Top 5 video before, because they talk about the same guns every top 5 they do.
'Take a shot every time we say utility'
'I'm in danger'
That light on the shotgun is just bright enough to give the bad guy something to shoot at.
*Top 5 guns for mounting on the wall*
(trump wall)
Nuclear Pepe,
M1 Garand (with bayonet)
Dad's 1911
Troy throwback AR (if you cannot have an original)
M1 carbine
Springfield 1903
Nuclear Pepe How rare is this Pepe?
starving troll
Lol, upon reading your comment I realized I totally misunderstood the original Q
yes, pointing at Mexico.
Trump is gonna get mounted in the wall with a nail gun.