I used to drive an old Ford dry van straight truck that had a two speed rear axel. The transmission had a working fifth gear. It had a huge gasoline burning V8. This arrangement gave me 10 speed ranges. The rear axel differential was electrically operated and worked very smoothly. I loved it. When I became a professional truck driver I had trucks that had that magnificent Eaton Fuller 10-speed bullet proof transmission. I am retired but I still remember the early days driving that Ford straight truck with that working fifth transmission. Nice presentation.
after years of dreaming about it I finally saved one of these trucks out of a field in San Antonio we've got it all packed up and ready for inspection I plan to haul scrap iron with it I've never driven a two speed or anything this big before so far I've managed to Lumber around the block a few times but getting a hang of the multiple shifts is proving to be difficult thanks for your video I can't tell you how many times I've watched it trying to learn how to do this
Once you get the hang of it It's no different than driving a big rig just have more gears with a big rig this being a 4 speed with a split axle it's basically a 8 speed when you split gear
What a great video. I was trying to explain to my son how to operate a 2 speed axle so I looked here on You Tube, and found this, it did the job perfectly!
Great video. Brings back a lot of memories. I'm 65 and remember when my dad had the exact same model truck with 2-speed axle. He bought it new and used for hauling lumber at the lumberyard he owned along with my uncles.
Thank you so much for doing this video. There is a guy with a 60s model C- Ford cab over And he was going back into lower gear with it in high range on two speed rear. He told me it was because of gearing on the rear. I always shifted like you did. My loads were always a Trailer with 16 thousand pound backhoe, sometimes even a load of Dirt,most of the time just wood for shouring on are Ditches. Supplies for job. Very seldom running light. That F-600 big GAS pot Ford V-8. Have had the Luck of Driving the 5 speed/ 2 speed rears. And one company had a GMC with a 5 & 2 speed rear with a 4-71 Detroit Boy talk about the power on that, never a LACK of no matter what it hauled. Are tow for backhoe was a C-750 Ford with 5 & 2 speed rear. It was a short cab, just a trailer low boy It had the big Gas engine Ford put in those C cab overs. Also drove a F-700 with a 5 & 2 speed rear with a standard 4 yard dump box, or 26 thousand pound type Truck. Vac assist brakes. On my uncle's F-600 first one I drove, would get grinding or noise from spit shift. Never knew why back then. You doing this helps young People understand the why as to the design of a gear shift, for caring the heavy Loads. Or if you traveled Light, like going back empty, no full loads each way.
Oh the sound of that six and those whining gears is music to my old ears!!! I was taught to just let off the gas to shift from low to high, but pushing in the clutch is probably easier on the diff. Letting off the gas increases the vacuum enough to operate the diaphragm to shift the diff. I learned how to drive on a '63 C10 pickup and I learned how to shift the axel on a '53 Chevy fire truck.
Thanks for sharing this. I've always wondered about those. I've driven tractor trailers for years, and the high/low are in the transmission rather than the axle. Similar, but a little bit different than the modern-day trucks that I'm used to with 10 and 13-speeds. Thanks again. Great video you made there. Learned something new today!
thank you for taking back to when i was 16,17,18 years old and working for my dad and he had a couple if 3 ton with buckets( to lift a man up to 70',) so the trucks had the 2 speed rear ends, and when i drove them ,load or not i always went through the gears as much as possible . what fun! thanx.! oh ,and the switch you are using was the same i used!
Man that’s a pretty old truck. I used to drive an old 66 GMC straight truck split axle every day when I worked for Sun Drop Bottling Co in Gastonia NC and it was actually fun to drive other than the shared power steering/break pump. That was completely strange as hell. You could turn and you could stop but you cannot stop while turning. Lol The whole damn truck would jerk back and forth so back causing your drink pallets to fall off the racks in your bays. Very messy when you roll up your bay doors at a vending stop! Great vid, great memories. Thanks
I just got a ‘67 F600 today and drove it home. I think it was stuck in low. Never felt the rear end change. At least now I know I wasn’t missing the just of how to do it! Wonderful video!!! Thanks man.
Interesting the 5+2's I've driven were air shift, but I never threw it after the shift, I always did it simultaneously. One truck had a bad line or the cylinder was going bad because every once in a while it'd get stuck between gears.. then you're floating in neutral until it catches... sometime it was graceful, other times it would spin the tires or lock them up! It was a treat to drive!
Good stuff! 🤩 I have a 51 REO that has a 5sp & 2sp rear, but the axle is controlled from the lever on the dash...just logistics.🥰 My 1st gear is rather granny and using low range made it wind out , getting nowhere. My wrecker would pull just about anything as long as you didn’t stall the engine.🧐 I’ve pulled buses, tractor trailers...even when it lifted my front end off the ground. I haven’t thought about that for some time.😯Thanks!👍🏻
I always know a great video when the instructions are simple, clear, and understandable. I hope one day you consider teaching, you would be great at it.
Hi same set up over here in uk back in sixties up till early seventies our family film ran Gmc Bedford trucks mostly with two speed axles 'my flatbed 16ton rigid truck shift was the same pattern as yours except from 4low you went to 5low then 4high to 5high really liked the air shift compared to the electric 2speed . Still have a seventies semi truck with it on today... Steve.
Ran a 66 Ford with a 330 v8 and a 5x2 setup as a kid. I shifted that one just like you did the second time. All low side and high in 4th. Sweet old truck bud!
Brings back great memories of my Dad's bulk livestock feed trucks. Henderson bed with hyd. boom, Chevy 350, GMC 350, Ford straight six cyl. The GMC was a 71 and it was awesome!
We had a 3/4 ton GMC pickup with 292 and 4spd manual. At 65 it was topped out. One of our drivers pulled a 5 vault storage crates (7x7x5ft) weighing about 18,000lbs into the Beverly Hills. He got down to Granny 1st and it just stalled out. Any other pickup would have twisted something, but that old pickup didn't care. The owner of Action Moving still has that pickup to this day.
I'm not sure what type of shifting mechanism they were using in 86. It might be electric and I believe you drive those a little different but I have zero experience with them. A lot of these trucks actually have shifting instructions printed on the roof or on the visor. Might be worth looking into. Congrats on the new purchase and have fun with it!
Thanks man, good explanation of how to shift a split axle, I have a friend who is taking truck driving lessons for FedEx and he is having trouble with shifting, I shared this with him.
nice video, thx learned something! Older guys in a rural coffee shop just were talking about driving 2speed-axle buses and trucks. Felt like bringing myself up to speed. Now if i ever am in a pinch and only have a 60s era chevy or 70s dodge schoolbus i'll be set xD
What a trip down memory lane. When I was a kid, our county school system used a fleet of 1965 Chevrolet/Superior school buses, which were all equipped with the 292 and that same transmission, but no split rearends.
The same when I was growing up. I remember a class trip to "The Little White House" where President Roosevelt was when he died. Second gear was all the bus could do to get up those taller than average hills. About 1,000 feet give or take a few feet.
I remember riding school buses and my uncle had a few ford 3 tons I rode along in and helped worked on. That's a nice familiar sound I haven't heard in a long time. A 427 on propane used to run cheaper than a V6 camaro on gas back then
i’m 18 and i just purchased an 02 Dodge 2500 with the 24v in it. it has a 2 speed rear end and a button next to the gear knob almost exactly like yours. thanks for showing me how to use it man i have been riding around in the low low gears everywhere.
Really??? Nowadays we have bigger trucks with automatic transmissions and diesel engines, far more powerful and fuel efficient then the ones in the "good old days"
thank you also for using the clutch when shifting the 2 speed rear. many of these rears were damaged when folks shifted without the clutch with a heavy load IE an ice truck.
cheers man that was great, Ive a 69 ford D series 4 speed with a 4 pot diesel. is proper underpowered an slow at 50mph flat out, with the wind behind you lol. Might keep an eye out for a 2 speed axle ;)
In about 1966 I was driving a bigger GMC - we would put about 1000 watermelons on it and run it about 100 miles and deliver to a bunch of grocery stores - it had a 5 speed with a 2 speed axle - the kicker was that the gear ratio between 4th and 5th caused the shift pattern to be 4th low to 5th low then back to 4th hi then 5th high - they called it a working 5 speed and it would really work u with the small engine and the close gear ratios...
thank you. i just rescued a 65 c60 and the sticker on the roof it says to refer to the owners manual for shifting betwen axels. that manual is long gone.
I drive a 95 ford f800 with the same gear shift and diesel engine. The best thing ever. I drove modern dumps and its more of a hassle to me. I love this system
Thank you sir for solving the mystery of the split shift switch to me. I ran a C-60 like this for awhile years ago building a golf course and I always wondered what the switch did, it was broken on our truck and stayed down, I remember when we took it down the road to get gasoline it wouldn't go over about 25 mph tops, now I know it's because it was stuck in low gear lol...
So weird...my boss is actually buying a C60 and he had no clue how to drive it..I'm 24 and had to show him haha but I didn't quite have it down but now watching this video I understand
I worked for a Farmer who owned a new C60, perhaps a 70, but had a big block V8. Corn was driven 28 miles to the elevator as they weigh the load & test the corn for low moisture content using a dip tube. 400 bushels is a lot of corn and heavy. But him & I were the only two allowed to use the 2-speed rear end. His other guys would tear it up an you simple had to give it a little extra clutch time to move the sun gear in or out with vacuum diaphragm, maybe 3/4 sec longer. Ordered special and a metal "Knap-Hyde" 400+ bedsides installed but a dump truck as well! How else do you get the corn out, by pulling the Red knob, engage the PTO and turn the metal dash switch to up, then off! DK, ASE master tech since 78, retired.
ClinkerClint. I am amazed to know these trucks, engine, two-speed differential were all build from hand drawn designs on paper just a few years before going into production without computers, 3D printers or a calculator. Those were engineers! God bless and have a happy new year. Just saying 2023 sounds strange. Oh yes, driving the 60 mile round trip from field to the best priced per bushel "elevator" was done by a 14 year old, me, as I grew 6" at age 11, got a $1.00 per hour to boot!
I like how you are demonstrating on how to do the splits. The Upshifts first is what my friend Ed Kite mentioned in the ATHS movie "Trucks with 2 Sticks". Jerry Lemons also states what can happen if you don't follow that sequence. You can over wind the engine and tear up the truck.
My great grandfather had a 65 C30 292 4 speed log truck...556 gears I believe...Learned to drive in that ole gem...45 was about all you wanted to do on the highway :-)
Engines on these trucks often had a vacuum-operated engine governor mounted under the carburetor. Often set to limit engine speed to about 3600 RPM, which limited road speed to about 55-60 MPH. Those governors had an extra throttle plate/butterfly which would partially close when the engine vacuum was highest.
This slit axle is how I learned to drive trucks when I was 11 years old. My uncle had a '66 c60 with a diesel engine, diesel was 10 cents a gallon back then. I learned on the open fields of San Diego, back in the day when there was lots of agriculture, dairies, chicken ranches and horse ranches. So there was plenty of fertilizer to be delivered to the farms that grew vegetables. This truck had a fertilizer spreader, so the business got plenty of work. I loved the summer time, my Great-Grand-Father had a rule that we could start driving at age 12. I was lucky though, I have an uncle that is a little over a year older than me. So when he turned 12 I got to drive as well, cause my Great-Grand-Father didn't want me to feel left out and I was his first Great-Grand-son. Since the truck was burnt up, I'd love to do a restoration on it and make it a tow truck. To haul cars to the car show. Be even better if the cars were mine :-D the interesting thing is that uncle that is a little over a year older then me, has restored cars.
Str8 Street Hows it going....just an idea, but full restorations can be pretty hard. Would just getting it operational and safe be easier ? Wash it off and keep the surface rusted paint , but go thru all the mechanicals and make sure they are tip top. You said it had some fire damage...wipe it off and blow some primer over it. That’s still a lot of work, but can be more rewarding for someone tackling a restoration for the 1st time. Not sure about your background, I’ve been around and it seems like I know too much to get involved with one right now. Like I’d know what I didn’t do that’s incorrect. But I guess there’s many levels of restoration and I was just thinking it would be a full anal chalk mark deal, I’m probably stupid for assuming, everyone knows that ol saying
I have went low high every time I shift.if loaded just keep it in low then when you get your speed up say in 3rd then split to high. If empty just leave it in high. We had a 71 f 750 5 speed split axle. The truck was immaculate never snatched or abused. My pop was a ford technician and shop foreman he would raise hell if I shut the door to hard on anything he owned.
Interesting video, we always had a few 2 sp axle trucks on the farm. I simply set the control in low range and then went through the gears on the main. Only split into high on the last gear. then use the 2 sp as needed on the road. A lot simpler and easier on the truck.
That's the only way I have seen it done until I ran across these videos. It could be my imagination but the trucks appear to gain speed more by shifting the two speed rear end each time the transmission is shifted.
A friend of mine years ago drove a cabover freightliner with a 5 speed and a 3, yes 3 speed rear axle. Haven't seen one of those in 40 years. 2 speeds are very common on 2 tonners though.
I currently own a 1966 F-600 with a 300 IC motor, a 435 New Process transmission and a Eaton 2 speed rear axle! One of the most dependable trucks ever built! I can also drive, drove a getaway car in a armed robbery before I was old enough to have a driver's license! lol 😎 🇺🇸
I have an 83 IH s1724 it's got the 392 V8 w 5 sp split rear. I've never seen how it was supposed to be done, and I'm a trucker lol my big rig is an IH as well but thanks for this video. Can't wait to get that old lumber yard truck back in service
I have 2 trucks the same except I put in 350s in both. Rarely would you shift the axle in super low, in fact you would stay in low axle until 3rd gear. These trucks are geared low in the diff that most times if you are empty you can turn the corner in 4-hi and not even downshift. I like the 5 speeds with the 2 speed where you go 4-low to 5-lo then to 4-hi then 5-hi.
Used to haul 80 cross ties on a 1976 C60 with a 366ci engine, 5speed with the 2 speed rear end. Handy since I was usually 3-4K overweight. (Hey when you’re 16 and your dad says go, you go)
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO I HAVE HAD SEVERAL TRUCKS WITH THE EATON ELECTRIC MOTOR AXLE SHIFTER, AND LIKED THEM ALL! I DIDNT SEE IF YOU WERE USING THE CLUTCH ON THE LEVER SHIFTS OR NOT, BUT I HAVE DONE ALL MY UP SHIFTING AND DOWN SHIFTING BY "SLIP SHIFTING" (CLUTCHLESS) IT IS JUST AS IF YOU WERE DRIVING A FULLER 10-18 SPEED ON A LARGER TRUCK!
That's something I remember discussing with my father some 20 years ago. He said the book said to use the clutch so... use the clutch. Our hired hand told me the less you use the clutch, the longer it lasts. Idk who was right but I still use the clutch... its was dad's truck after all.
Thanks for sharing a awesome video you should be a truck driver I have a 1976 Ford F600 dump truck not the fastest trunk around but one of the strongest truck around
i just bought a '70 Int'l 1700 Loadstar Dumptruck at auction for 300 bux. Hardly anyone bid because the yardmen said it had no breaks and there were full-quart-bottles of dot3 inside but after looking for leaks (none) we jumped in and got'er home (no cylinder fluid drop either!). However i was doin like 35 in a 55 the whole way through town in rush-hour, with no brakelights nor turn signals ('bout 15miles) no plates, no insurance, no parking-brake, no confidence (all courage!). Pretty hairy but we had protection. If there was a shift-diagram anywhere once upon a time, it was nowhere to be seen. Had little idea what the gears were. I'm guessing it had 4 or 5 (plus the knob), but i couldn't find a 5th (if it had one). Didn't touch the knob, maybe that's why it couldn't beat 35-40 (unless on a downslope)? I don't know, the airfilter also had a lot of oil in it (we spilt about half, buddy thought it was blowback, i'm guesing it was 'oil/air-filter...wasn't sure if it was supposed to be in there), and the carb (Holley 6891N) was leaking steady drip from the bottom (took it off and used makeshift silicone, didn't hold :( ). This is the 2nd time i've tried this type of truck in 2yrs and i have the same problem. Seem to be able to upshift 1-4 the first few times, then it mysteriously becomes more difficult to upshift thereafter without grinding (just skip 2&3 or even start in 4), and also no chance of downshifting at all without grinding (no matter how much i tap nor stomp the clutch); just had to coast from 4th to 1st and start all over again at every light. Lots of rushhourers passing us... Hopefully a carbkit will give more power, but it'd be nice to learn how to drive the dang thing. Can you just pull the knob up after shifting without hitting the clutch again? It was a little difficult to see or hear if your left leg was going up or down after you pulled/pushed the knob. Also,i've talked to dozens of truckers the last 2years about 'double-clutching' vs 'single-clutching' vs even 'slip-shifting', does anyone have a favorite? My polling used to show opinion was about 50/50 double vs slip. (or single, forget if there's a difference). p.s. i think i got a deal, the dual-hydraulic lifts are massive, the axle looks huge, new plug n wires, the beds ok, even though the seats are down to metal, foot could go through the floor, the pto cable was rusted in on, the throttle-knob was useless and i hear grinding in my sleep like nails on a chalkboard.
Yeah I wish I had someone with me to hold the phone while I was driving. The clutch has a high pitched squeal. If you listen for it, you might be able to figure it out. Sounds like your transmission needs some new syncronisers put in. Some of those old IH trucks had some very strange transmissions. Our neighbor has one with three sticks. I have no clue how you drive it.
Just bought an 86 F800, and you just solved my shifting issue... You sir deserve a medal.
Glock Guy Griff awesome!!! Glad I could help!
I used to drive an old Ford dry van straight truck that had a two speed rear axel. The transmission had a working fifth gear. It had a huge gasoline burning V8. This arrangement gave me 10 speed ranges. The rear axel differential was electrically operated and worked very smoothly. I loved it. When I became a professional truck driver I had trucks that had that magnificent Eaton Fuller 10-speed bullet proof transmission. I am retired but I still remember the early days driving that Ford straight truck with that working fifth transmission. Nice presentation.
after years of dreaming about it I finally saved one of these trucks out of a field in San Antonio we've got it all packed up and ready for inspection I plan to haul scrap iron with it I've never driven a two speed or anything this big before so far I've managed to Lumber around the block a few times but getting a hang of the multiple shifts is proving to be difficult thanks for your video I can't tell you how many times I've watched it trying to learn how to do this
Once you get the hang of it It's no different than driving a big rig just have more gears with a big rig this being a 4 speed with a split axle it's basically a 8 speed when you split gear
What a great video. I was trying to explain to my son how to operate a 2 speed axle so I looked here on You Tube, and found this, it did the job perfectly!
Great video. Brings back a lot of memories. I'm 65 and remember when my dad had the exact same model truck with 2-speed axle. He bought it new and used for hauling lumber at the lumberyard he owned along with my uncles.
Thank you so much for doing this video. There is a guy with a 60s model C- Ford cab over
And he was going back into lower gear with it in high range on two speed rear. He told me it was because of gearing on the rear. I always shifted like you did. My loads were always a Trailer with 16 thousand pound backhoe, sometimes even a load of Dirt,most of the time just wood for shouring on are Ditches. Supplies for job. Very seldom running light. That F-600 big GAS pot Ford V-8. Have had the Luck of Driving the 5 speed/ 2 speed rears. And one company had a GMC with a 5 & 2 speed rear with a 4-71 Detroit
Boy talk about the power on that, never a LACK of no matter what it hauled. Are tow for backhoe was a C-750 Ford with 5 & 2 speed rear. It was a short cab, just a trailer low boy
It had the big Gas engine Ford put in those
C cab overs. Also drove a F-700 with a 5 & 2 speed rear with a standard 4 yard dump box, or 26 thousand pound type Truck. Vac assist brakes. On my uncle's F-600 first one I drove, would get grinding or noise from spit shift. Never knew why back then. You doing this helps young People understand the why as to the design of a gear shift, for caring the heavy Loads. Or if you traveled Light, like going back empty, no full loads each way.
Great video. I have owned my 1964 ford 600 with 2 speed rear and a 330v8 for 6 years now.
More people need 2 watch your video. Great job.👍
Oh the sound of that six and those whining gears is music to my old ears!!! I was taught to just let off the gas to shift from low to high, but pushing in the clutch is probably easier on the diff. Letting off the gas increases the vacuum enough to operate the diaphragm to shift the diff. I learned how to drive on a '63 C10 pickup and I learned how to shift the axel on a '53 Chevy fire truck.
Thanks for sharing this. I've always wondered about those. I've driven tractor trailers for years, and the high/low are in the transmission rather than the axle. Similar, but a little bit different than the modern-day trucks that I'm used to with 10 and 13-speeds. Thanks again. Great video you made there. Learned something new today!
thank you for taking back to when i was 16,17,18 years old and working for my dad and he had a couple if 3 ton with buckets( to lift a man up to 70',) so the trucks had the 2 speed rear ends, and when i drove them ,load or not i always went through the gears as much as possible . what fun! thanx.! oh ,and the switch you are using was the same i used!
Way cool! There's just something about those old trucks, and videos about them are addictive. They had tall shifters back then!
Congratulations on a You Tube video with nothing but well deserved praise. Thanks for posting, and great job.
joe quinlan lol, that's pretty rare these days!
Thank you for the video. I've never knew how to drive a truck like this. If I ever have to, I will remember your video.
Man that’s a pretty old truck. I used to drive an old 66 GMC straight truck split axle every day when I worked for Sun Drop Bottling Co in Gastonia NC and it was actually fun to drive other than the shared power steering/break pump. That was completely strange as hell. You could turn and you could stop but you cannot stop while turning. Lol The whole damn truck would jerk back and forth so back causing your drink pallets to fall off the racks in your bays. Very messy when you roll up your bay doors at a vending stop!
Great vid, great memories. Thanks
I just got a ‘67 F600 today and drove it home. I think it was stuck in low. Never felt the rear end change. At least now I know I wasn’t missing the just of how to do it! Wonderful video!!! Thanks man.
292 is my favorite motor ever. I put on in a 1998 Jeep Cherokee with an SM465 with narrowed 1 ton axles.
292 six. What a great engine. I learned the 2-speed axle setup in a '59 Ford F500 with a 292 V8. :)
Interesting the 5+2's I've driven were air shift, but I never threw it after the shift, I always did it simultaneously.
One truck had a bad line or the cylinder was going bad because every once in a while it'd get stuck between gears.. then you're floating in neutral until it catches... sometime it was graceful, other times it would spin the tires or lock them up! It was a treat to drive!
Good stuff! 🤩 I have a 51 REO that has a 5sp & 2sp rear, but the axle is controlled from the lever on the dash...just logistics.🥰 My 1st gear is rather granny and using low range made it wind out , getting nowhere. My wrecker would pull just about anything as long as you didn’t stall the engine.🧐 I’ve pulled buses, tractor trailers...even when it lifted my front end off the ground. I haven’t thought about that for some time.😯Thanks!👍🏻
This brings back memories........Love them Old Trucks..........
I always know a great video when the instructions are simple, clear, and understandable. I hope one day you consider teaching, you would be great at it.
Mary Norgaard-Larsen Thank you, Mary! I think that's one of the biggest compliments I've ever received!
What a neat old Chevy. Thanks for the ride!
I definitely appreciate the history lesson on what this truck was used for in the 1960s.
Thank you! I just bought a truck with a two speed rear end. It really helped me understand how to use it. Appreciate your time.
I'm glad it helped! They are a lot of fun to drive.
Hi same set up over here in uk back in sixties up till early seventies our family film ran
Gmc Bedford trucks mostly with two speed axles 'my flatbed 16ton rigid truck shift was the same pattern as yours except from 4low you went to 5low then 4high to 5high really liked the air shift compared to the electric 2speed .
Still have a seventies semi truck with it on today...
Steve.
Ran a 66 Ford with a 330 v8 and a 5x2 setup as a kid. I shifted that one just like you did the second time. All low side and high in 4th. Sweet old truck bud!
Brings back great memories of my Dad's bulk livestock feed trucks. Henderson bed with hyd. boom, Chevy 350, GMC 350, Ford straight six cyl. The GMC was a 71 and it was awesome!
Drove a Chevy telco line truck with this same engine, transmission combo. My favorite truck back in the day.
Good video. Thanks for the lessons on the subject and its history.
292 was a great engine
We had a 3/4 ton GMC pickup with 292 and 4spd manual. At 65 it was topped out. One of our drivers pulled a 5 vault storage crates (7x7x5ft) weighing about 18,000lbs into the Beverly Hills. He got down to Granny 1st and it just stalled out. Any other pickup would have twisted something, but that old pickup didn't care. The owner of Action Moving still has that pickup to this day.
*is a great engine haha. They are still good!
And the Ford 300
Thanks for sharing. Bought an 86 c70 today and that is not what thean showed me. I appreciate this bro
I'm not sure what type of shifting mechanism they were using in 86. It might be electric and I believe you drive those a little different but I have zero experience with them. A lot of these trucks actually have shifting instructions printed on the roof or on the visor. Might be worth looking into. Congrats on the new purchase and have fun with it!
Thanks man, good explanation of how to shift a split axle, I have a friend who is taking truck driving lessons for FedEx and he is having trouble with shifting, I shared this with him.
Right on, glad I could help!
nice video, thx learned something! Older guys in a rural coffee shop just were talking about driving 2speed-axle buses and trucks. Felt like bringing myself up to speed. Now if i ever am in a pinch and only have a 60s era chevy or 70s dodge schoolbus i'll be set xD
Awesome!! I love the sound of a 292 Straight-6 !!!!!!
Great Job !! I haven't driven one of those in years
What a trip down memory lane. When I was a kid, our county school system used a fleet of 1965 Chevrolet/Superior school buses, which were all equipped with the 292 and that same transmission, but no split rearends.
The same when I was growing up. I remember a class trip to "The Little White House" where President Roosevelt was when he died. Second gear was all the bus could do to get up those taller than average hills. About 1,000 feet give or take a few feet.
I remember riding school buses and my uncle had a few ford 3 tons I rode along in and helped worked on. That's a nice familiar sound I haven't heard in a long time. A 427 on propane used to run cheaper than a V6 camaro on gas back then
i’m 18 and i just purchased an 02 Dodge 2500 with the 24v in it. it has a 2 speed rear end and a button next to the gear knob almost exactly like yours. thanks for showing me how to use it man i have been riding around in the low low gears everywhere.
Five or six speed?
You're AWESOME man,thank you for that.
drove an similar truck 1976 - 1980 .....generally i would only split last gear to high very good explanation
good job. I drove one these back in 72. It was old then.
Great video, thanks for showing how things were so much more simple back when. 👍
Really??? Nowadays we have bigger trucks with automatic transmissions and diesel engines, far more powerful and fuel efficient then the ones in the "good old days"
True. I want to put one of these on a new chassis with new diesel engine and auto trans lol.
Thanks! Newbie to these trucks and needed some info. Appreciate your sharing the knowledge!
TheTeampontiac79 happy to share!
Just got a 63 k4000 and this video was great for learning
Good deal! Glad it helped!
Reminds me of the 74 Loadstar i drove when i was 18, 345 V8 with a 4x2 trans, brings back memories.
thank you also for using the clutch when shifting the 2 speed rear. many of these rears were damaged when folks shifted without the clutch with a heavy load IE an ice truck.
Double the clutch all the way.
Do you need to depress the clutch when using the axle button?
@@erikbunty2016 you don't need to, but it's better to do so.
@leebuck180 Is this synchronized?
Great video all around. Thank you.
cheers man that was great, Ive a 69 ford D series 4 speed with a 4 pot diesel. is proper underpowered an slow at 50mph flat out, with the wind behind you lol. Might keep an eye out for a 2 speed axle ;)
Thanks so much for that super informative video - much needed as I am learning to drive a 58 international!
In about 1966 I was driving a bigger GMC - we would put about 1000 watermelons on it and run it about 100 miles and deliver to a bunch of grocery stores - it had a 5 speed with a 2 speed axle - the kicker was that the gear ratio between 4th and 5th caused the shift pattern to be 4th low to 5th low then back to 4th hi then 5th high - they called it a working 5 speed and it would really work u with the small engine and the close gear ratios...
I loved the working 5th.
Back when things was simple
Ikr my fj cruiser has a whole nother shifter for off-roading
Brings back memories of my dad driving trucks.
thank you. i just rescued a 65 c60 and the sticker on the roof it says to refer to the owners manual for shifting betwen axels. that manual is long gone.
I drive a 95 ford f800 with the same gear shift and diesel engine. The best thing ever. I drove modern dumps and its more of a hassle to me. I love this system
Great video. Very well done!
Brings back memories on the farm driving 4X2 stick shift when I drove stick with loads I started out in first gear but it was in second I started out
Thank you sir for solving the mystery of the split shift switch to me. I ran a C-60 like this for awhile years ago building a golf course and I always wondered what the switch did, it was broken on our truck and stayed down, I remember when we took it down the road to get gasoline it wouldn't go over about 25 mph tops, now I know it's because it was stuck in low gear lol...
So weird...my boss is actually buying a C60 and he had no clue how to drive it..I'm 24 and had to show him haha but I didn't quite have it down but now watching this video I understand
For want of a vacuum hose.
Thats odd, our 1966 c60 gets well in 50 mph before splitting into high
Hey Steve, 6 years later and I'm in the same boat. I'm 25 and my boss is buying a 68'Ford F600
I worked for a Farmer who owned a new C60, perhaps a 70, but had a big block V8. Corn was driven 28 miles to the elevator as they weigh the load & test the corn for low moisture content using a dip tube. 400 bushels is a lot of corn and heavy. But him & I were the only two allowed to use the 2-speed rear end. His other guys would tear it up an you simple had to give it a little extra clutch time to move the sun gear in or out with vacuum diaphragm, maybe 3/4 sec longer. Ordered special and a metal "Knap-Hyde" 400+ bedsides installed but a dump truck as well! How else do you get the corn out, by pulling the Red knob, engage the PTO and turn the metal dash switch to up, then off!
DK, ASE master tech since 78, retired.
ClinkerClint. I am amazed to know these trucks, engine, two-speed differential were all build from hand drawn designs on paper just a few years before going into production without computers, 3D printers or a calculator. Those were engineers! God bless and have a happy new year. Just saying 2023 sounds strange. Oh yes, driving the 60 mile round trip from field to the best priced per bushel "elevator" was done by a 14 year old, me, as I grew 6" at age 11, got a $1.00 per hour to boot!
Great video and perfect explanation!
I like how you are demonstrating on how to do the splits. The Upshifts first is what my friend Ed Kite mentioned in the ATHS movie "Trucks with 2 Sticks". Jerry Lemons also states what can happen if you don't follow that sequence. You can over wind the engine and tear up the truck.
Streetcar1664 thanks for mentioning the movie! I'll have to check it out!
What is the ATHS movie? Why would you even think about abbreviating the title of a movie????
Thank you for teaching me something new. It means a lot to me. By the way I subscribed
Thanks for sharing your video I learned something
I had a 67 Ford n model 238 Detroit 5 speed overdrive 2 speed axle. I DONT miss that truck .
Awesome man, thanks for filming.
My great grandfather had a 65 C30 292 4 speed log truck...556 gears I believe...Learned to drive in that ole gem...45 was about all you wanted to do on the highway :-)
I had an old water truck with a 292 Ford V-8 with an electric 2 speed axle. Worked fine. Engine sucked but the splitter worked good.
Engines on these trucks often had a vacuum-operated engine governor mounted under the carburetor. Often set to limit engine speed to about 3600 RPM, which limited road speed to about 55-60 MPH. Those governors had an extra throttle plate/butterfly which would partially close when the engine vacuum was highest.
Ken6151 I've got a 64 GMC 4000 with a 305V6. It does have a governor in it but the Chevy with the 292 I6 does not... our truck doesn't anyway.
Really cool truck
This slit axle is how I learned to drive trucks when I was 11 years old. My uncle had a '66 c60 with a diesel engine, diesel was 10 cents a gallon back then. I learned on the open fields of San Diego, back in the day when there was lots of agriculture, dairies, chicken ranches and horse ranches. So there was plenty of fertilizer to be delivered to the farms that grew vegetables. This truck had a fertilizer spreader, so the business got plenty of work. I loved the summer time, my Great-Grand-Father had a rule that we could start driving at age 12. I was lucky though, I have an uncle that is a little over a year older than me. So when he turned 12 I got to drive as well, cause my Great-Grand-Father didn't want me to feel left out and I was his first Great-Grand-son.
Since the truck was burnt up, I'd love to do a restoration on it and make it a tow truck. To haul cars to the car show. Be even better if the cars were mine :-D the interesting thing is that uncle that is a little over a year older then me, has restored cars.
Str8 Street
Hows it going....just an idea, but full restorations can be pretty hard.
Would just getting it operational and safe be easier ?
Wash it off and keep the surface rusted paint , but go thru all the mechanicals and make sure they are tip top.
You said it had some fire damage...wipe it off and blow some primer over it.
That’s still a lot of work, but can be more rewarding for someone tackling a restoration for the 1st time.
Not sure about your background, I’ve been around and it seems like I know too much to get involved with one right now.
Like I’d know what I didn’t do that’s incorrect.
But I guess there’s many levels of restoration and I was just thinking it would be a full anal chalk mark deal, I’m probably stupid for assuming, everyone knows that ol saying
10 cents a gallon? That way it's going now, it'll be 10 dollars before too long.
@@erikbunty2016 very soon, I saw a photo of $9+ a gallon for gas here in Commyfornia so diesel was over 10 in that area
@@OneTouchShort Wow, just wow!
I have went low high every time I shift.if loaded just keep it in low then when you get your speed up say in 3rd then split to high. If empty just leave it in high. We had a 71 f 750 5 speed split axle. The truck was immaculate never snatched or abused. My pop was a ford technician and shop foreman he would raise hell if I shut the door to hard on anything he owned.
Interesting video, we always had a few 2 sp axle trucks on the farm. I simply set the control in low range and then went through the gears on the main. Only split into high on the last gear. then use the 2 sp as needed on the road. A lot simpler and easier on the truck.
Frank thats how I drive my 79 model. I only go to hi in the 5th gear. So I stay in low in all the other gear...
That's the only way I have seen it done until I ran across these videos. It could be my imagination but the trucks appear to gain speed more by shifting the two speed rear end each time the transmission is shifted.
C-60...The "C" stands for "Cool"
c-60 the c stands for Crap
A friend of mine years ago drove a cabover freightliner with a 5 speed and a 3, yes 3 speed rear axle. Haven't seen one of those in 40 years. 2 speeds are very common on 2 tonners though.
There have certainly been many strange combinations used over the years. Lots and lots that I don't know about.
Sweet! Great video!
I currently own a 1966 F-600 with a 300 IC motor, a 435 New Process transmission and a Eaton 2 speed rear axle! One of the most dependable trucks ever built! I can also drive, drove a getaway car in a armed robbery before I was old enough to have a driver's license! lol 😎 🇺🇸
Dude awesome video
Thanks man!
Hi Thanks for that. I'm considering buying a F500, and fitting a two speed axle for better highway cruising.
Who’s here because you can’t understand your dad
That is TOO FUNNY 🤣
😂😂😂
I'm hear because my college prof showed us this video
I have an 83 IH s1724 it's got the 392 V8 w 5 sp split rear. I've never seen how it was supposed to be done, and I'm a trucker lol my big rig is an IH as well but thanks for this video. Can't wait to get that old lumber yard truck back in service
Good deal! One of my neighbors has an older IH truck with an IH-V8 in it. I was always amazed at how much power it had.
@@clinkerclint I'm with ya on the power. I hauled about 15000 lbs of water with it and it just runs with it
Nice truck i like it cool
I don't shift all those unless heavy
Those were great trucks. Run forever.
That's needed that nice video
I have 2 trucks the same except I put in 350s in both. Rarely would you shift the axle in super low, in fact you would stay in low axle until 3rd gear. These trucks are geared low in the diff that most times if you are empty you can turn the corner in 4-hi and not even downshift. I like the 5 speeds with the 2 speed where you go 4-low to 5-lo then to 4-hi then 5-hi.
A real man's truck
I never knew that. Thank you.
Nice. Mine just has the switch on the dash. I might have to set mine up like yours
We had a 51 Chevy 2500... had a switch under the dash for two speed.
good vid bud!
Used to haul 80 cross ties on a 1976 C60 with a 366ci engine, 5speed with the 2 speed rear end. Handy since I was usually 3-4K overweight. (Hey when you’re 16 and your dad says go, you go)
Lol, that's right!!!! 366 had a good top end. We had a 73 C70 and I swear that thing would run 80 plus!
That boy know his trucks 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO
I HAVE HAD SEVERAL TRUCKS WITH THE EATON ELECTRIC MOTOR AXLE SHIFTER, AND LIKED THEM ALL! I DIDNT SEE IF YOU WERE USING THE CLUTCH ON THE LEVER SHIFTS OR NOT, BUT I HAVE
DONE ALL MY UP SHIFTING AND DOWN SHIFTING BY "SLIP SHIFTING" (CLUTCHLESS)
IT IS JUST AS IF YOU WERE DRIVING A FULLER 10-18 SPEED
ON A LARGER TRUCK!
That's something I remember discussing with my father some 20 years ago. He said the book said to use the clutch so... use the clutch.
Our hired hand told me the less you use the clutch, the longer it lasts.
Idk who was right but I still use the clutch... its was dad's truck after all.
Great answer, Your a real truck driver
Nice video.
Thanks very informative
30 years ago I just had a lot fun going all "big rig trucker" on it 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Great video! I think every vehicle could benefit from having a 2 speed axle
It would be great for turning drag cars into street cars.
Thanks for sharing a awesome video you should be a truck driver I have a 1976 Ford F600 dump truck not the fastest trunk around but one of the strongest truck around
Got to love an old workhorse like that!!!!
What motor is in it?
Good show and information
Glad you liked it
good video
i just bought a '70 Int'l 1700 Loadstar Dumptruck at auction for 300 bux. Hardly anyone bid because the yardmen said it had no breaks and there were full-quart-bottles of dot3 inside but after looking for leaks (none) we jumped in and got'er home (no cylinder fluid drop either!). However i was doin like 35 in a 55 the whole way through town in rush-hour, with no brakelights nor turn signals ('bout 15miles) no plates, no insurance, no parking-brake, no confidence (all courage!). Pretty hairy but we had protection. If there was a shift-diagram anywhere once upon a time, it was nowhere to be seen. Had little idea what the gears were. I'm guessing it had 4 or 5 (plus the knob), but i couldn't find a 5th (if it had one). Didn't touch the knob, maybe that's why it couldn't beat 35-40 (unless on a downslope)? I don't know, the airfilter also had a lot of oil in it (we spilt about half, buddy thought it was blowback, i'm guesing it was 'oil/air-filter...wasn't sure if it was supposed to be in there), and the carb (Holley 6891N) was leaking steady drip from the bottom (took it off and used makeshift silicone, didn't hold :( ). This is the 2nd time i've tried this type of truck in 2yrs and i have the same problem. Seem to be able to upshift 1-4 the first few times, then it mysteriously becomes more difficult to upshift thereafter without grinding (just skip 2&3 or even start in 4), and also no chance of downshifting at all without grinding (no matter how much i tap nor stomp the clutch); just had to coast from 4th to 1st and start all over again at every light. Lots of rushhourers passing us... Hopefully a carbkit will give more power, but it'd be nice to learn how to drive the dang thing. Can you just pull the knob up after shifting without hitting the clutch again? It was a little difficult to see or hear if your left leg was going up or down after you pulled/pushed the knob. Also,i've talked to dozens of truckers the last 2years about 'double-clutching' vs 'single-clutching' vs even 'slip-shifting', does anyone have a favorite? My polling used to show opinion was about 50/50 double vs slip. (or single, forget if there's a difference). p.s. i think i got a deal, the dual-hydraulic lifts are massive, the axle looks huge, new plug n wires, the beds ok, even though the seats are down to metal, foot could go through the floor, the pto cable was rusted in on, the throttle-knob was useless and i hear grinding in my sleep like nails on a chalkboard.
Yeah I wish I had someone with me to hold the phone while I was driving. The clutch has a high pitched squeal. If you listen for it, you might be able to figure it out.
Sounds like your transmission needs some new syncronisers put in.
Some of those old IH trucks had some very strange transmissions. Our neighbor has one with three sticks. I have no clue how you drive it.