Hinduism Or The Indus Valley Civilisation - What Came First?
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History is a subject that most kids tend to dislike in school, they say it's no point knowing about the past, and they find it to be boring. But, what if I tell you that history has so much to do with the future and even more lessons to be learned for the present. This is one of the most interesting episodes we've created on the show, talking about my favorite subject which is "Historical Facts, Vedic Truths & The Aryan Theory".
In this episode, we speak about archeological truths about the world that are kept hidden from the general public. Only deep researchers, Archaeologists, and historians with enormous research and digging can find out hidden facts and have evidence for the same. This Episode on TRS brings you a mind-blowing conversation of all the findings of India's True History uncovering India's real past.
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this woman is a marxist, you know it when she has to redefine every term for you.
I enjoy this channel
The divide and rule you mentioned is actually implemented or trying to implement by the Christian churches in the south in order to make Hindus of the south feel insecure about their identity so they can feel distanced from Hinduism thus making things easy for the churches to convert them. Now the jihadis are also competing with them to cut and separate the south away from India. China, Islamist countries and many western countries are funding them.
American here, I absolutely adore these types of conversations especially about ancient civilizations and the subject has so much depth!
To indian it is still existent
Hey gangu😂
These guys just push fake news, funded by RSS
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Sir you Read Journey of civilization indus to vaigai please Read this book Lot evidence available
Just finished watching the original podcast, now watching this again. I can’t get enough of these podcasts! Love your content Ranveer ❤
Wish i had done archaeology!! This looks coolest job of this era!!
Definitely.
Lucky🥺
It's not though. People in archeological community are very stiff & narrow minded
@@sumuqh that's obvious na? That's their profession to be narrow minded! She did mention somewhere I think. She wants to believe the childhood stories but they have be narrow minded!
Paisa nahi milta
it's sad there is not much excavation and archaeology work happening in Pakistan, which consists of the largest ever area of the Indus Valley Civilization from Balochistan to Harappa to Swat to Thar. There should be Pak-India archaeological collaboration on this.
Research collaboration would be great but until the radical mindset is overcome, it's highly impossible.
nature's decision,, should not be tampered by zealots
Couldn’t agree more
Better leave it all buried. Radical Islamists would destroy anything uncovered. Just like they did to Afghanistan.
Ind-Pak collaboration. Lol no thank you
2:24....i loved when he Sayed Akhand Bharat area.....
Future 10 countries separate india will come Kashmir,Bengal ,Punjab,marathi,
telugu states,Tamil
@@freegood2103 cry . Cope harder .
@@debaprasad9379 world know who are crying now🌚
@@Bharatverse308 peaceful 🙂
@@freegood2103 marathi from Maharashtra... Proud to be an Indian 🇮🇳❤️
Ambedkar Nagar district in UP agriculture dates backs to 7500BCE.
Prof. Shinde's Paper on Rakhigarh Skeleton proofs that Agriculture Develops in India Independently.
Hinduism is eternal constantly evolving n growing from time immemorial
Hinduism is name given by Persians for Sindhus
For how many years?
Time immemorial lmao 🤣
@@amrut13 sanatan dharma
@@amrut13 Hindu comes from HImalaya and siNDU ocean (Indian Ocean) - word Hindu represents people living between these two boundaries. It is used in our sacred texts, much before Persian used the term.
The part that Ranveer mentioned about people in Tamil Nadu still harbour the divisive narrative of Aryan-Invasion theory, was playing out yesterday, when in office I had interesting discussion (where I didn't allow it to heat up into argument), with a Tamilian spewing out all kinds of Periyarist, Colonial, Leftist-Sickular non-sense, going to an extent that before Britishers India as a nation didn't exist & he considers Tamil as a Nation, not India as a nation even now (except for constitution part).
As a Tamil I apologize for those troglodytes
@@linneshwharparameswaran6147 You don't have to apologise on anyone's behalf. I'm "a realist & an optimist" and I know there are still more sane Tamilians than insane ones in Tamil Nadu & elsewhere.
But I wouldn't say the same thing for Keralites (I am one too) and for Bengalis. I mean in Kerala & Bengal, the proportionality of sane : insane is already less than 1.0.
@@linneshwharparameswaran6147 you don't need to apologize bro.....
It's a plan of politician,,,,,,,for win election......
We are one,,,, we North Indian love every regional language,,, gujrati, Punjabi, tamil, telgu.....
But I don't know why Tamil hate sanskrit
somethings he said are true
@@jklmnop3511 I certainly don't. Tbh doesn't really matter which is older. Both are older than ALL other languages. India could use both to levy soft power on an international stage
I liked the difference you put between civilization and culture.
Homo Sapient migration into India was around 80,000 years ago,
BEFORE the Toba Volcano eruption around 75,000 years ago.
The question of Hinduism / Vedas vs IVC - which came first has NOT been answered.
I also noticed that they did not answer the question in the title. Click bait?
The main question actually which should be answerd. That is brahmic religion is older or indus valley
@@utkarshsrivastava5576
'IVC' is the Vedic Civilization.
There is nothing called Brahmic Religion.
@@DiatomAlgae and whatever we are following is brahmic religion that is not hindu nor sanatan because in our so called holy books it is nowhere mentioned that it is himdu or sanatan it was created by brahmans to rule on other people thats ehy they have kept themselves on top of other people and aslo they decided that what they will do
@@utkarshsrivastava5576
Even Vedas and Upanishads were composed by Brahmins
Key: We're ONE OF THE oldest NOT THE OLDEST civilizations. A lot of us seem to forget it
We are oldest....we still don't know yet...may be 100 years from now world will know....but for now you and me would still be arguing
@Manojshinde7 Nubia and Egypt were both older than Harappa. But it wasn’t that far off age wise.
We are indeed the oldest "living" civilisation. There might have been older civilisations to ours but they are all extinct long ago.
@@Manojshinde7it might be because a large portion of Indus civilisation is in Pakistan and Afghanistan. And they couldn’t care less about history and they don’t have money in reality as well to conduct a deep search.
The Mesopotamian civilization is the oldest civilization. Other civilizations, including the Indus Valley civilization, emerged later than the Mesopotamian civilization, but all the ancient civilizations emerged almost simultaneously, one after another. Therefore, the Indus Valley civilization is one of the oldest civilizations in the world and has equal importance in the history of ancient civilizations around the world, along with the others.
Loved the part where he actually talked about hinduism and indus vally civilization
😂😂
Request to all Hindus to wear a Raksha Dhaga to show unity and respect to our ancestors.
@@mannysmandatories5595 Think long and hard what's the use of an Army doing a parade..in the end all they do is walk. Traditions are a way to live a disciplined life. As for why?? I really don't know its significance but even without it..aah why am i telling you this it feels like you aren't a seeker. Nothing i say will get to you unless someone walks on water in front of you.
@@mannysmandatories5595 okay first following a tradition isn't an offense. Ofcoarse there is a reason just google it. But at the same time I don't intend you to change your mind because even with the reason you are not wearing it anyway. oh and btw i have already written my reason of doing so in the original comment. For me that much is enough but for you..i guess you want to know who came first a chicken or an egg??
You mean Africans?
You need to get Dr Raj Vedam and Vedveer Arya to give you a phenomenal understanding of Indian civilizational history. As of today we can scientifically prove back to 15-17000 BCE.
Also Nilesh Oak
What "civilisation" when there is not even agriculture? Of course there was some cultures emerging 17000BCE also, but not "civilisation". That is a complete different thing.
Not possible...no civilisation existed more than 5000 years ago..
@@kaamdev810 That’s a Judeo-Christian lie & propaganda
@@thechroniclesofsher7118 no thats reality....scientifically proven...
Har Har Mahadev
Jay Sanatana Dharma....
This is the best explanation of culture.
What a misleading title. No mention of Hinduism in the video. Stop click baiting man!
Exactly what I thought!
@@christianfrommuslim christianfrommuslim with Love, welcome to Hinduism 🌹
@@akashds6666 In what way?
@@christianfrommuslim Choose the way by yourself. But welcome for a constructive purpose
Please refer to Kizhadi (Kiladi) excavation near madurai going on in tamilnadu. Any civilization will extinct and a new civilization will flourish. So no civilization or no religion is superior to others. Still north Indians address south indians as madrassi, also north east people as Chinese instead of calling it by state they belong, hence still aryan and Dravidan theory prevails. First accept South Indians as Indians and all languages equal then others will also accept the same towards North.
Why do you say North, every state in Bharat has its own culture and food habits don't call North, South and East.
@@rajeshbobba3851We can't erase the directions of our states where they are in our country (East, West North, South), and can't rename them like we rename many towns and places.
@@rajvkl DNT cluster state's as per location south and north, every state is different in Food, language and culture and traditions.
@@rajeshbobba3851 I am not doing on my own, as our union government has segregated the country on 6 zones or regions namely North Zone, South Zone, East Zone, West Zone, Central Zone and North East Zone. All these zones include our 28 states and 8 union territories.
@@rajvkl THESE ARE TIME ZONES WHICH DEPEND ON LATTITUDE AND LONGITUDE WHICH ARE ZONAL AND HENCE THIS SEGREGATION. BUT WHY DO YOU USE IT ?
We do not want to say and romancize that our country was the biggest and oldest .... But it's a fact .. reading it as a fact ,like a fact (nothing to be proud of ) and use it as a tool to make us the BEST civilization right now . 🙏 Har har mahadev
😁😁😁
It's not fact at all😂.
@@nowwhat6716 Then please enlighten us with facts?
This is what romanticizing means. This is the first video of this guy I felt was level-headed because it isn't stroking the Hinduism ego that our people have. Of course such evidence based video will have people commenting about how we are the greatest no matter what.
@@dewansharma658 Mesopotamian civilization is generally thought to be the oldest civilization.
Indus valley and ancient Egyptian is considered to be the next and each developed around the same time
Lovely discussion.Enjoyed thoroughly.All the support from Kolkata
Love your podcasts, very interesting and educational discussions. I had visited the site at Dholaveera three times at different times and also at Lothal, but to my disappointment didn't see much excavations carried out from the first to the last visit. The museum at Lothal was having a good collection, the museum at Dholaveera was added much later. Another sad point was I came to know when I asked a guide why isn't much displayed there? The answer was most is taken to the Delhi museum. I also visited the Delhi museum and found a very small section on display, disappointed again. ❤😢👍
Finally a real knowledgeable person in his podcast! Who doesn't ponder propaganda to the Hindu right wing
RANVEER: BUT WHEN DID THE YETI COME?
OMG she is so cute. OOpsey she is married.
Chitrod Gujarat is the first area of civilisation Harappa Empire better known as the Bhagwan MangalDev Chitroda Empire as it evolved with each of my Empires including Devs to Bhagwans. The world cannot question Indian Hindus ever as they would seem stupid. 🤴🏽🕉🔺➕
What do you mean by Indian Hindus?
@@shivinunitholi2493 There are non-Indian Hindus also......like Malaysia, Singapore or Cambodia, etc...
@@satheeshprabhu2577 How come "Indian Hindus" are superior or wiser than Hindus living abroad?
@@shivinunitholi2493 I didn't say that. For being superior or wiser, there are other clsses who claim so. (For example, Whites over Blacks, etc.)
Uzbekistan capital name is Samarkand means they are not tribal before converted to Islam…Hinduism forgot or destroyed by roman and Muslims in other countries
@@navminhas412 Why only "some" words? For your convenience of explanation?
@@navminhas412 Is it true about other languages too?
@@navminhas412 You told: "people who brought some sankrit words to IVC stayed in uzbekistan for hundred of years before entering modern india. thats why there are these names outside india." Then how comes names like Singapore (Simhapura in Samskrit), Sentosa Island (Santhosha in Samskrit), etc. which are far East to India?
@@satheeshprabhu2577 He follows Aryan invasion theory.
Believe in European superiority and still a slave by mindset.
The title question was not answered. How do viewers vote on this question?
Hinduism or Harappan Civilization first?
Why does it matter?
I think it is good that the Harappan Civilization does not display the angry or erotic cartoon gods that we see so frequently in Hindu temples.
@@christianfrommuslimit's not vedic civilization there are lot evidence to prove this
@christianfommuslim cartoon gods, alright lol. Shows your ignorance.
@@Voiddrifter725 Ignorance of what? I speak from experience. Some cities and towns in Eastern India have several temples in every block, each with gods painted like cartoons, often angrily staring down at us.
But as Acts 17 of the Bible says, "The God who made heaven and earth does not live in temples made by people."
@@christianfrommuslimyou are stuck with the blank and white image of a god or creator. This fantasy you have about god who were a white robe and not believing in death all just fantasies bro
What about Tamil Nadu where found same material which was found in harrapan civilizations
No mention of Rakhigadi site, it older than Harappa.
May be she is not updated
TRUE
Country is diverse and widespread that's why today china is so worried.
We all have to save our culture too with fast moving time.
i am in luv with this girl.. her voice.. how she sounds
Teri bhabhi hai wo
Please also make video about findings at rakhigarhi, bandavgarh,sandhai, bhirrana, vadakapattu, keezhadi, adichanallur, poompuhar.
While archeology is great in establishing historical facts do not dismiss ancient texts that provide markers to historic events. Indians left lots of astronomical markers in their texts. There is a general attitude of delegating this to the realm of romanticism
*_Sanatana dharma named as hinduism is eternal, perpetual_* ..
The subcontinent has produced 100s of languages, different forms of fine arts from every region of the country with deep level of intricacy, extremely complex and highly evolved classical raaga music (only culture in the world that has identified not 7, not 12 but 22 notes/shrutis), innumerable types of musical instruments, complex designing of fabrics (multiple different styles of fabric art in different regions of the country), and highly evolved numerous cuisines with complicated methods of cooking in different regions of the world. When the world is just awakening to the health and environmental benefits to veganism and still have very rudimentary vegeterian food, our subcontinent adopted and has developed a highly evolved vegeterian diet, growing and cooking vegetables, and using spices that most other countries in the world have not even seen before. This degree of evolution in all different domains of culture and life, may be enough anecdotal evidence to support the theory that ours is probably the oldest civilization and culture in the world.
3:01, prehistoric humans coming of Africa into India. Wow, that's African invasion theory right there
Indus script has been successfully deciphered in the paper 'Deciphering Indus script as a Cryptogram by Yajnadevam' and he explains the whole decipherment in a video presentation given to Sangam talks on UA-cam. His decipherment shows the Indus seals and other artifacts are used to write a form of Sanskrit and the symbols used there are pre-cursor of Brahmi script ( from which today's Hindi, Tamil and other North Indian scripts are derived. Kannada and Telugu have their own modern script but before that they might've used Brahmi too )
Most importantly, there are so many Vedic references like Ravi, Varuna, Agni etc... in Indus seals and writings.
Totally wrong information u got
Sanskrit has nothing to do here with indus script
@@somedeepbarat9852 go through the paper I mentioned!
Till now no one deciphered Indus valley script.🤣🤣🤣 So called claims of "deciphered Indus script" are mostly made pseudoscience peddlers or right wing hindutva scientists
@@chethan93 search that paper.... totally misleading information and horrible...
I don't know how did u believe that?
Its ONLY as old as 3000 bce?
Only?
Thats what happens when you are fed fake numbers from childhood. Lakho karodo se niche sab kuch only lagta hai
I saw the first one minute and she’s not able to explain clearly what is civilisation… Should I watch it further??
Saraswati is called Haraxvati in Afghanistan & Saraswati is now called Ghaghar Hakkra river system. Saraswati was considered a minor tributary of the Haraxvati in Afghanistan. Harappan civilization sites are found all over India from Udhampur in J&K , Sinauli, Daimabad, Inamgaon, several places in Karnatak , Keezhadi in TN etc. All these sites vanished with the onset of Rig Vedic civilizations.
The documentary series from Indus to Vaigai clarifies many things as well as the books written by Dr R. Balakrishnan
Why ended so prematurely??? Not everyone is on Spotify... Please publish full episode also on UA-cam, thank you.
Its on youtube
Indus valley civilization follow non vedic Hinduism 🕉️ for there culture and faith 😊 they are hindus 🕉 and shiv bhakts 😊😊😊
According to a genetic study it would seem that the people who started the Vedic culture and beliefs they came when Indus Valley Civilization was almost vanished. Not a complete proof of anything but definitely something to be noted
"The British turned the Dravidians and Aryans against each other" LOL stop blaming the British for everything. People don't need excuses to dislike each other. The Dravidian Aryan divide is as old as the Vedas.
Both have the same history mf, Ancient Tamil grammar text Aggatiyam was written by Rishi Agasthya, who is also a celebrated author of several Rig Vedic hymns, it's indeed the Brits who started this fight
No that's not true it was always the north never wanted to let the credits go to southern civilisations because of the color northern scholars were constantly undermined the Southern civilisations... Kept influencing the Britishers as if everything were started from up north and they are the dominant race the southern society was described as living with primitive technology... How biased... Now trying to claim everything as Indian... But for the fact the Harappan civilization was following a non Aryan and more likely to be Dravidian civilization... Because these were the terms that existed and were used back then... These words were said by John Marshall..,
Funny fellas...😅😅
Indus valley civilization and its culture is the native culture of Indians...it is the base for India.. Hinduism came into existence when mughals arrived and gave word hindu..
Indus valley civilization was named hindu later. So there is no difference in indus valley and hinduism.
Ranveer please stop interrupting guests
Also , what is anchestry ?
Did she mean ancestry? Or is it a word ?
Ancestry. She meant ancestry. Her accent makes it sound like “anchestry”.
@@JohnLee-vg3ui ok
People should be watching these type of contest its better than scrolling through insta reels
*Sanatan Dharma was always there and always will be there no matter if humans exist to follow it or not It's a Dhram of multiverse!*
Sanatan Dharm was also practised by Homo Erectus? ☠️
😅
@@AbhishekVerma-ks4vw yoga postures me seals mili hai
😂😂😂
Im 4th generation Indian South African... I may look Indian but that where it ends... As she says culture is evolving... My outlook to life is not Indian but African.
If you go at last every human will link to each other scientific theory are incomplete they just say all are come from Africa
Culture is amalgam of various aspect. Food, Dress, Music, Art, Literature style etc etc. Now a days we have adopted all western Chines Food, Dress, Music except Caste System, which is original to India.
Sadly
It's good, but When you talk about Archeology where is "Keezhadi" ?
That's what she said. Very less is talked about contemporary cultures apart from Indus Valley, it should be taught and given the due importance... Indian Govt is at wrong here trying to hide the Keezhadi site excavation and history.
This is from a different video i saw long back.
There are multiple path to find history.
1) archeology
2) language development. A language develops from simpler to complex over time. Then how come sanskrit it's so complicated and so well-designed, if its that old. It takes many years to get to that level of complexity.
3) tracking DNA to find ancestral flow. I think there are research on that line too
Don’t be foolish there are many languages older than Sanskrit
@@dravidian667 nope there are not
Sanskrit the oldest than tamil and than other languages
@@pragyankhare1223 first get educated
@@dravidian667 i think the one who should acquire knowledge is you
@@dravidian667 no one uses sanskrit because it is tough and also the northern india was destroyed many time but this language will rise again aur haan tamil is not older than sanskrit either it is after according to vedas or is a parallel language may be they are two language in ancient time one for common communication while other for providing knowledge
timid, incompetent archeology dept. of india not explored:
1. temples of tajmahal, kutubminar,
2. ellora kailasa mandir
3. carbon dating of gyanwapi
4. dwaraka
5. mathura temple inside mosque
6. carvings , carbon dating of thousands of temples wrapped as superficial mosque
7 carvings of thousands of temples which praveen mohan explored
and apologetic tries to slow poision that sanatan civilization is not the greatest.
She is speaking NCERT history book which we all read.
She needs to update herself.
Please visit ancient temples to know how technically advanced we were. Please refer to Saraswati civilization.
🤦♂️ RIP anthropology
We have read but nit understood because it is there in class 5 or 6 that time we used to ratta maring so
I personally used to do it
08:45 The Saraswathi river system which "we call it as" gaghar hakra... 😂😂... Super
Sanatan is cyclic and timeless..... Its way older..... Hinduism is a name given.....
The place i was born in, Sindh Pakistan, the Ghakar hakra river was (as they mentioned) only a few kilometers away.
The Joe Rogan episode that Ranveer vi is mentioning here is perhaps none other than the "Joe Rogan Bob Lazar podcast", it's from 2017, back before the Spotify deal.
Good to see Ranveer vi is interested in all the UFO talk. I hope he is also subbed to Curt Jaimungal's UA-cam channel, the best UFO interview platform ever, big names like George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, Steven Greer (this guy is a bit too dramatic) and many other podcasts and Jai asks some amazing questions which lends some great insights into the topic.
The best UFO podcasts he has ever done are with Luis Elizondo, freakin loved it.
The the way, the book was published on 2002. I think it will help this debate. She said she was reading for PhD. I sincerely believe the book will throw light on what she is studying
I love ranveer podcast
She is really so cute and so beautiful.
Ice age was in temperate zone not in tropical zone,that leads to more species in tropics
According to evolution in ncert and Campbell
I had my DNA tested through NatGeo Genome project and as per the result like all humans my ancestors left Africa 60,000 years back, found their way to middle east and to Central Asia and then migrated down to an area what is current day Pakistan and from there they finally settled in Southern part of India, current day Karnataka. One thing happened when they arrived in current day Pakistan the migration forked into 2 directions. One going towards eastern India and other western India. Our ancestors might have been the part of the group which went on the west coast.
@@VSM101 absolutely right. We don’t know what that area was called say 5000 years back. That’s why most of us refer it as current day Pakistan. I will underline the words “current day “ to Indicate that it didn’t exist prior to 14th of August 1947
That's what they are telling u... We will not know if that really was the case
@@mlg1279 Science unlike faith is constantly changing based on new inventions and evidence. One thing about science is, it is peer reviewed and there should be acceptance by at least 99% of them. This is what gives the credibility to Scientific inventions or findings.
@@mlg1279 it saved millions. You need to believe in science to accept this fact. Like you there are millions who deny and continue to question
@@kirchunetwork1986 I don't 'believe' anything. I go by facts. And science isn't advanced enough for u to know where ur ancestors originated or travelled to.
Is this a click bait title? Or are we supposed to listen to the whole thing for more?
Misleading Caption
I think you don't know about Jainism 🗿
See what Disha did there, around 14:20 mark. She kept her scientific integrity by not confirming Abhijit's nationalistic out-of-India schtick. Credit to her!
Im having a very hard time understanding , so who came first? Hinduism’s or the indus civilization?
Indus valley did not used to have any Hindu diety or temples as no such things/structures have been found in archeology
Even tho there are hundereds of structures which have been excavated
They didn't even had Sanskrit or hindi as their main language
Written Sanskrit(in which most Hindu text is written)was not even found before 5th or 6th century ad,which was much later than INDUS VALLEY(3000BC)
And there's no evidence to suggest that Hinduism is older than IVC(other than what's written in sacred texts) if there was a full fledged religion running parallel or nearby to Indus valley they would've made some contact but that doesn't seem to be the case
@@DrSiddharthVerma well said!
Rig Veda alone was written in 1500bce in Sanskrit. @@DrSiddharthVerma
watched just because she is damn beUTIFUL
Civilisation and religion are different.
राखगढ़ी सहर की खोज के बाद हमारी civilization 9000 साल पुरानी तक चली जाती है
Ask her why the language system/script of Indus valley civilization match more to south Indian or so called Dravidian languages ??And why certain traditions match to certain local tribes staying in Pakistan n Iran ??
Just saying word dravid itself is Sanskrit it means a place covered by oceans from 3 sides adi shankaracharya used it first💀
Indus valley scripts nowhere match the Dravidian languages, they match with no language, that's the reason nobody has been able to understand it, rather should we ask why we find the Pashupatinath seal? Why we find the Teracotta of Mother Godess? Why we find Swastika in Indus valley civilization excavations?
@atharvamishra2813 no where it is said that dravid is a sanskrit word. It is derivation of dravidam(sorry for spelling error), which has been studied to be older than sanskrit.
Any proof?@@shreyaanghosh
India, Industan , Indu 🪷🕉️
Saraswati completly disappeared at 2000bce so plz keep correct facts..
Theres no similarity between Indus and Hindu Culture. Worries me a bit.
You can't escape easily from talking on Aryans history ..
Akhand bharat 🚩🚩🚩
lovely discussion
Madan Gowri treated as a expert about Tamil History and culture and his view is provided as evidence to a “science” conversation- Priceless 😂
Please read this book: The Civilizations of Africa: A History to 1800 by Christopher Ehret. Farming did not start from Turkey. By the way, "Ehret" is White America, not African.
The fun fact is there is no word called " hinduism " in inscription
@सप्तसिन्धवः Darius is just Dara as we know it.
Sanatan Dharma is mentioned in inscriptions over 4000 years ago
no every Bharat civilization have archeology evidence because that civilization some time covered by Maya Devi to protect Vedas from Melechas persons
Blunt religeous hypocricy !
Arya is NOT A RACE !!!
Very good conversation.
19:04 its a true statement and its a divide and rule policy
Level of a civilization is a Function of its AREA . Because a large area needs Better Communication ( Language , Script ) , Uniform Standards ( Weights and Measures , Brick sizes , Classification and NOMENCLATURE systems etc ) , Better Transport and Organized Government , Armies , Policing etc . SINDHU-SARASWATI Civilization was the Largest in Area .
Indus Valley civilisation not religion dominant.
So is it Indus Valley Civilization, Aryans, Saraswat Valley Civilization, Harrappan civilization who are the present day Indians descendants of???
You have to understand the history of subcontinent. Indus Valley civilisation was formed by union of middle eastern farmers and Indian hunter gatherers.
Then came Aryans, who united with Middle East+Indian hunter gatherer to form ANI(Ancestral North Indian)
Some IVC settlers+ANI moved South, where they further mixed with local hunter gathers. This formed ASI(Ancestral South Indian)
@@PaulAllen6304 ANI came around 35 0000 years ago...much later West Eurasians farmers settled in north West India..ASI were more ancient than ANI...
@@kaamdev810 ASI and ANI formed around the same time.
@@PaulAllen6304 thats not what the scientists found out in their study.. there was a gap of more than 10 thousand years..
@@kaamdev810 source?
You called this woman an archeologist!!. What she said is nothing new, all can be found in ncert history syllabus. She didn't even answer to the topic.
She is not updated
Madan Gowri Himself is manipulator number one, who works for DMK whims..
brahmin traitors
It is difficult to follow her. I am sure she is an expert at her subject but she is not coherent enough and lacks clarity but thanks for this conversation.
It is proved from Hindu religious texts that Vedas were incarnated (najil) on Noah (vaivasvat Manu) And "Vedic religion" is universally accepted ancient religion among all the religions of the world.
And we know this thing that Noah was the first Sahib Shariat (enforcer of religious rules) Rasool (messenger) of the world.
There is no concept of messengers in hinduism / vedic culture . Reincarnation /avatars are not messengers .
Noah is nowhere mentioned in vedic scriptures . Manu was first person in this time cycle . there are lakhs manu in different time cycles .
Please don't intermix two different theology .
@@svgodan हिन्दू कौम रामायण और महाभारत को मानवकृत रचनाएं स्वीकार करती हैं,लेकिन वेदों के विषय में उनके विद्वानों का बहुसंख्यक मत है कि यह खुदा का कलाम (ईशवाणी) हैं।
इसके बावजूद यह बताने में असमर्थ है कि वेद किस देवदूत के माध्यम से जनसाधारण तक आए? अपने ईशदूत को उन्होंने 'दंतकथाओं ' में खो दिया।
कुरआन, सुरः हूद (11)
* आयत 37 - और हमारी निगरानी में हमारी प्रकाशना के मुताबिक एक नाव बनाना शुरू करदो। और देखो जिन लोगों ने ज़ुल्म किया है उनके लिए मुझसे कोई सिफारिश न करना , ये सारे के सारे अब डूबने वाले हैं।
* आयत 40 - यहां तक कि हमारा आदेश आ गया और वह तन्नुर उबल पड़ा तो हमने कहा," हर प्रकार के जानवरो का एक -एक जोड़ा नाव में रखलो, अपने घरवालों को भी - सिवाय उन लोगो के जिनके बारे में पहले बताया जा चुका है - उसमें सवार करा दो और उन लोगों को भी जो ईमान लाए हैं।" और थोड़े ही लोग थे जो नूह के साथ ईमान लाए थे।
* आयत 41 - नूह ने कहा," सवार हो जाओ इसमें, अल्लाह ही के नाम से है इसका चलना भी और इसका ठहराना भी, मेरा रब बड़ा क्षमाशील और दयावान हैं।"
~ ह० नूह अलै० और उनके ' जलप्रलय ' की घटना विस्तार के साथ पुराणों में आई हैं।
' मनु' शब्द बहुत से हिंदू धार्मिक प्राचीन महान व्यक्तियों के लिए इस्तेमाल हुआ है ( जैसे स्वयंभूमनु, वैवस्वत मनु आदि जो कि एक उपाधि या title है)। वेदों , पुराणों , तथा अन्य धर्मग्रंथों में सब से ज्यादा विस्तार से जिस मनु का वर्णन है, वह महाजल प्रलय वाले मनु है ( नूह अलैहिस्सलाम) । वेदों में हजरत नूह अलै० का प्रसंग 'मनु ' के नाम से 75 बार आया है।
मसलन:
मत्स्य पुराण, अ० 1 श्लोक 29 से 35
- " तब भगवान , मनु से यूं बोले - ठीक है, ठीक है! तुम ने मुझे भलीभांति पहचान लिया है। भूपाल! थोड़े ही समय में पर्वत, वन,और उपवन के सहित यह पृथ्वी जलमग्न हो जायेगी। इस कारण पृथ्वीपते ! सम्पूर्ण जीव -समूहों की रक्षा करने के लिए समस्त देवगणों द्वारा इस नौका का निर्माण किया गया है। सुव्रत! .... जितने भी प्रकार के जीव है, उन सभी अनाथों को इस नौका में चढ़ा कर इन सब की सुरक्षा करना।"
मत्स्य पुराण, अ० : 2 श्लोक 14,16
- "........... प्रलय काल में जब इसी प्रकार सारी पृथ्वी एकार्णव में निमग्न हो जाएगी और तुम्हारी सृष्टि का प्रारंभ होगा , तब में वेदों का पुनः प्रवर्तन करूंगा तथा मनु भी वहीं स्थित रह कर भगवान वासुदेव की कृपा से प्राप्त हुए योग ( तपस्या और साधना) का तब तक अभ्यास करते रहे, जब तक पूर्व सूचित प्रलय का समय उपस्थित न हुआ ।"
~ यही किस्सा बाइबल, तौरेत में भी मौजूद है।
हिन्दू धार्मिक ग्रंथो से यह साबित होता है कि वेद नूह अलै ० पर अवतरित ( नाजिल) हुए थे ।और " वैदिक धर्म" विश्व के समस्त धर्मों में सर्वमान्य रुप से प्राचीन धर्म है।
और ये बात हम जानते है कि नूह अ० दुनिया के सर्वप्रथम साहिबे शरीअत ( धर्म नियमावली लागू करने वाले) रसूल (messenger) थे।
कुरआन में नूह अलैo के बुतो (मूर्तियों) या देवताओं के नाम
सुरः नूह (71:23)
"और उन्होंने कहा,अपने ईष्ट पूज्यों को कदापि न छोड़ो और न वद्द को छोड़ो और न सुवा को और न यग़ूस और न यऊक और न नस्र को।"
"किताबुल असनाम"
लेखक - हिशाम इब्न अल कल्बी
प्रसिद्ध इतिहासकार (737 ई. - 819 ई.)
पुस्तक का अंग्रेजी अनुवाद - The Book of Idols
इस क़िताब में पूरी दुनिया के प्राचीन इतिहास से अब तक (लेखक के दौर तक) के अलग अलग देवी देवताओं के नाम और उनके गुण, शक्तियां और उन्हें क्या माना जाता था ,, यह सब दिया गया है।
एक अन्य पुस्तक -
The Origin of Ancient Names of Countries Cities,Individuals and Gods .
- Dunalp, S. F. ( Samuel Fales)
इन पुस्तकों में जब ये नाम तलाश किए गए और उन तहकीक हुई तो वो ये थे -
वद्द - वासुदेव
सुवा - शिव
यगुस - यज्ञेश
यऊक - यक्ष
नस्र - नक्षत्र
ये प्राचीन देवता हैं जिनकी नूह अलै० की कौम पूजा करती थी। जिनमे शिव आज भी है।
पुराणों में नूह अलै० का वाकिया विस्तार से मनु नाम से आया है। लेकिन एक जगह संस्कृत में न्यूह
दिया गया है। अब के हिंदी अनुवाद में उसे नूह ही लिखा जाता है।
(भविष्य पुराण प्रतिसर्ग पर्व अध्याय 4 श्लोक 45 से 60)
"नूह या न्यूह" शब्द की मूलधातु:
संस्कृत में नु का अर्थ नाव होता है और उसी से यह शब्द बना , जिसका अर्थ है नाव वाला।
भारतीय प्रह्यद्विप में हज़रत आदम( स्वयंभुव मनु ) और हज़रत नूह अलैहिस्सलाम के अलावा और भी कई नबी हुए है।
भारतीय परंपराओं में 14 मनुओ का वर्णन मिलता है।
Don't bring this abrahamic agenda in hinduism.
There wasnt hinduism in Harappa civilisation. Aryans used to worship Indra, varun, surya etc, later they start worshiping Shiva the Dravidian God.
Please invite KK Muhammad ji on Archeology and excavation
So where is the Hinduism story
She is soooo cute. Her way of talking is sooo cute.. I’m seeing the video for her 🥰
Actually I stated watching for the content then I ended up seeing her only 😁
We r men of culture 😛
So one thing i observed . As per british we are 1500bce that to we were given this by out invader or migraters or picnic people at that timeline . But Saraswathi was dried up at 2000 to1900bce . And that was mentioned in rigvedha . Does thos disproved british theory . As raj vedham sir said .
You don't understand AMT. Outsiders didn't give you, you are the outsider.
Like the civilizations, religion, here Hinduism, itself evolves. We have added newer deities, while let go old-time deities from our daily practiced pantheon. We developed more time-relevant rituals. Animal sacrifice of the hunter tribes got replaced with panchagavyam + navadhanyam as the primary civilization became more lacto-vegetarian agriculturist. So Hinduism as we see it today didn’t exist even 1000 years ago in the same form. Hinduism is a constant flow, like a River, what started with Sindhu-Saraswati has come a long way to today’s new age sampradayas, e.g. Swaminarayan, Vedantic Order of Ramakrishna Paramhansa, Amma Amritananamayi, Sri Sri’s Art of Life, Sadhguru’s Isha Foundation, Prabhupada’s Iskcon and so on. That’s all Hinduism. So there is no scope of IVC (SSC) first or Hinduism first debate. Civilization and religion always go hand in hand.
Madam, Mumbai 200 years back it was inhabited by local fishermen, now full of different races of people. Why not people moved in 4000 years from Harappa to South.