What the heck happened to Rich Boyer?? We the members voted him in and we deserve an explanation on why he was removed!!! The UAW should’ve fought and asked these questions a freakin year ago!!!
If the videos I've seen are accurate,a large part of their Problem is that the outgoing CEO is to focused on building things people don't want,instead of what people do want. Then they want to charge big money for things most people don't want. It like he either don't understand or don't care that most people want to stick with the internal Combustion automobile, or he hates it so much he don't care what the customers want. As for their threat to move Durango production outside the U.S,that would be foolish. They would get hit so hard with Tariffs that people will start seeing better deals elsewhere.
It’s political. I’m sure they met with Biden and there’s all sorts of behind the scenes coercion going on to force the market towards EV. It’s manipulation
@@tritchie6272yeah no it's not all on him when governments want EVs. What screwed Tavares was taking on FCA. I'm sorry, but I was at Jefferson North Country Club Assembly for 5 years. I saw it firsthand and I'm not going to sugar coat something because the "leadership" can't be honest with it's members.
As a Stellantis employee that works at the Jefferson North Assembly plant we as a union need to vote to strike and hold Stellantis accountable and ensure job security for us union members. Having job security is the main purpose of a union.
The UAW has to prove themselves to the members!! We know international has been bought out and sold out before! Prove to the members that we matter!! The corporations have been doing whatever they please for far too long, and the uaw along with them!! Show us without sacrificing us!!
Maybe you should have focused on Stellantis instead of campaigning for Kamala Harris. It turns out that all the endorsements were paid for by the Harris/Walz campaign. How much was Fain paid ?
In case you hadnt noticed people arent buying their overpriced cars/trucks/jeeps. What did you expect when there is less revenue coming in to sustain operations? You want more money but the products dont sell at the prices needed to justify the expensive labor. Do you think big auto should get ANOTHER taxpayer bailout so you can keep jobs at mismanaged/dying companies? Ford isnt selling trucks either. Overpriced and low quality products wont find buyers. Robots will replace thousands of high priced labor and the corruption in the unions will fade. Thats just the reality. 60-80K for a pickup/jeep is INSANE. It sounds like everybody needs a pay cut across the board starting at the top to get prices back to reasonable levels. Until then sales will struggle.
You're correct, customers are not buying because of cost. The quality is on the company and it's engineers, not the union members. They are building the cars and trucks with parts designed by the engineers of the company and it's suppliers.
@@jmbickham I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying. I'm simply correcting part of what the original commenter said about the UAW asking for more money when vehicles aren't selling which is not factual. I believe they just want to keep their jobs at this point. The raises came when the vehicles were selling at record profit so that's why the UAW had leverage during their strike which they do not have now that workers are being laid off due to production being idled.
you and Fain are clueless. You can't even read off cue cards believably. Look Carlos needs to be ousted no doubt but your tactics aren't working at all.
The problem with this union has always been the way it considers the company an external party. The company generates the revenue that allows the union to exist. Workers are one piece of a big machine.
@@ronmurray7349”Management”? American corporate think in 2024 is that EVERYONE is replaceable and everyone that isn’t C-suite or board of directors are just useless grifters trying to fleece the company… meanwhile they take another first class flight on the company dime while collecting their multimillion dollar bonuses.
Stallantis doing better than gm and Ford on profit? Hard to imagine given sales figures and inventory. The UAW better make sure of their financial figures or a strike could hasten the end of stallantis. The American auto industry is in a downward spiral- why not try working with management to improve products instead of bashing management and always the adversarial relationship. Good luck but the future doesn't look bright.
@@Benfromtoledo… but they already aren’t selling vehicles in the near future. They already have an oversupply glut of overpriced, low quality vehicles that no one wants…
You forgot the part about how actual line jobs have been removed and those components added to others over cycling other jobs affecting quality. And quality inspection jobs cut. And a quality testing facility closed. And quality is used in negotiations. Also.. Refusing to drop the prices affects the market for the product. Stellantis is self sabotaging. And sabotaging the membership.
You won nothing. Now you will be lucky if you can keep your jobs. And in case you haven’t noticed, nobody is buying the overpriced junk!!! What are you going to do Strike? You have absolutely no power. Strike and it will be just speed up the job losses!! Good luck
Im a 685 member for 31 years and all i have to say is , if you would have explained all of this over a month ago to let the people at kokomo casting plant onow 5hat you would not hsve striked over the Holidays because They are young with no benefits ( because past UAW crooks gave them away ) they were scared of not giving there kids annive Christmas. If you would have waited until after January 1st your outcome vote would have been better ... We will back 5he UAW but timing is everything, and if President Trump does move our emissions back to the 80's so we can make all of the cars and trucks that the people wont , we will be back to making All of the vehicles we possibly can. Thank You Brian Luttrell 685....
Dodge Hornet slowest selling vehicle since launched. Chrysler only vehicle in line-up is outdated minivan. Ram 🐏 hasn't had a compact/midsized truck in the US for 15yrs! Mopar enthusiasts have no choice but to shop the competition 😢
I think your greed has caused thousands of people to lose their job. I think the level of greed from the mother company has caused people not to buy their vehicles. See where I’m going.
The one we were looking at was R/T Plus package stickered at $60,000, incentives and discounts got us down to $55,000. $80,000 gets you into loaded out Citadels, SRT's, Jeep Cherokee L Summit Reserve package and pretty nice 1500's .
People of Belvidere should at least have the option to either temporarily transfer before the layoffs. It's ridiculous it's been 4 years with no pension credits or a raise for sub pay still off of last contract while some are off of two contracts ago. Something needs to be done.
😊 stallantis is so full of SHIT, I bought Two new ones this year, 24 durango srt, and a 24 Pacifica Road tripper. What has happened, the dealerships have driven up prices and the banks aren't giving rates below 7.5% with 800 credit scores. People I put my money where my mouth is,, BUY AMERICAN. OUR PEOPLE DEPEND ON IT. I THANK GOD EVERYDAY I AM HAPPILY RETIRED.
The problem is we can’t buy American anymore. The cost of every product coming from DJCR is so ridiculously overpriced, The average American can no longer afford it.
You mean like the Chargers with the Mexican made engines and German made transmissions? Or the Dodge/Ram trucks made in Mexico? Lol. My wifes 2017 Hyundai was made in Alabama and her Tesla was made in Texas.
Now that Harris has lost, there is hope that Stellantis dumps the headfirst dive into the EV market and actually listens to buyers in the 🇺🇸 US and go back to ICE V8's starting with the Charger. With the incoming administration, there is hope that the strict Biden EV Mandates and Cafe standards go away. Hopefully, manufacturing will come back to the USA and Canada. Get rid of Tavares and have him take Fein with him and get true working-class leadership back.
Upper management has only been out for the shareholders. Face it, the quality lacks and the prices are ridiculous. Corporate billionaires are ecstatic for trump, Unions are going to suffer. 😢
This is more then an IL problem, This is a 5 billion and 400million dollar problem that should have gone to THE PEOPLE, EVERYONE. If they weren't going to open IL then 5 billion could have went into everyone's pocket so if you're happy about not making more money an hour then you must be the only one!
You think it’s just an IL problem??? If you think they wont do to you what they did to us, you are delusional. Toledo didnt think it would happen to them either. We have to stand together and fight. The fight is not just about Belvidere, or the Durango, or Toledo, it’s a fight FOR ALL OF STELLANTIS WORKERS!
Local 12 and we are all ready to walk out…They are working us 6 days a week and we have union brothers and sisters getting fired??? What are we waiting for???
No amount of striking will make a plant that isn't profitable profitable.
Stellantis is tanking profits to move the work out of the country so they don’t have to pay its workers the wages in the new contract.
They were never going to reopen Belvedere.
What the heck happened to Rich Boyer?? We the members voted him in and we deserve an explanation on why he was removed!!! The UAW should’ve fought and asked these questions a freakin year ago!!!
Kevin, Stellantis is so fucked.
If the videos I've seen are accurate,a large part of their Problem is that the outgoing CEO is to focused on building things people don't want,instead of what people do want. Then they want to charge big money for things most people don't want. It like he either don't understand or don't care that most people want to stick with the internal Combustion automobile, or he hates it so much he don't care what the customers want. As for their threat to move Durango production outside the U.S,that would be foolish. They would get hit so hard with Tariffs that people will start seeing better deals elsewhere.
It’s political. I’m sure they met with Biden and there’s all sorts of behind the scenes coercion going on to force the market towards EV. It’s manipulation
@@tritchie6272yeah no it's not all on him when governments want EVs. What screwed Tavares was taking on FCA. I'm sorry, but I was at Jefferson North Country Club Assembly for 5 years. I saw it firsthand and I'm not going to sugar coat something because the "leadership" can't be honest with it's members.
As a Stellantis employee that works at the Jefferson North Assembly plant we as a union need to vote to strike and hold Stellantis accountable and ensure job security for us union members. Having job security is the main purpose of a union.
The UAW has to prove themselves to the members!! We know international has been bought out and sold out before! Prove to the members that we matter!! The corporations have been doing whatever they please for far too long, and the uaw along with them!! Show us without sacrificing us!!
Maybe you should have focused on Stellantis instead of campaigning for Kamala Harris. It turns out that all the endorsements were paid for by the Harris/Walz campaign. How much was Fain paid ?
Bingo
I’ve heard if Toledo plant isn’t running at full capacity it’s only a matter of time, (a short time) Toledo is done. Toledo machining is next.
In case you hadnt noticed people arent buying their overpriced cars/trucks/jeeps. What did you expect when there is less revenue coming in to sustain operations? You want more money but the products dont sell at the prices needed to justify the expensive labor. Do you think big auto should get ANOTHER taxpayer bailout so you can keep jobs at mismanaged/dying companies? Ford isnt selling trucks either. Overpriced and low quality products wont find buyers. Robots will replace thousands of high priced labor and the corruption in the unions will fade. Thats just the reality. 60-80K for a pickup/jeep is INSANE. It sounds like everybody needs a pay cut across the board starting at the top to get prices back to reasonable levels. Until then sales will struggle.
You're correct, customers are not buying because of cost.
The quality is on the company and it's engineers, not the union members. They are building the cars and trucks with parts designed by the engineers of the company and it's suppliers.
I guess you didn't know that the prices went up before UAW members got their raises.
@@NT-lz5ezDoesn’t change the conversation. The vehicles are overpriced and build quality is low. Buyers aren’t buying. 🤷♂️
@@jmbickham I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying. I'm simply correcting part of what the original commenter said about the UAW asking for more money when vehicles aren't selling which is not factual. I believe they just want to keep their jobs at this point. The raises came when the vehicles were selling at record profit so that's why the UAW had leverage during their strike which they do not have now that workers are being laid off due to production being idled.
@ Ah gotcha! You’re completely correct.
you and Fain are clueless. You can't even read off cue cards believably. Look Carlos needs to be ousted no doubt but your tactics aren't working at all.
The problem with this union has always been the way it considers the company an external party. The company generates the revenue that allows the union to exist. Workers are one piece of a big machine.
Management regards Labour as an expense nothing more nothing less. They would outsource to the Moon if the aliens would work for free.
@@ronmurray7349 Robots will replace workers in so many jobs so its better to find a ways to earn money that a robot cant do.
@@ronmurray7349”Management”? American corporate think in 2024 is that EVERYONE is replaceable and everyone that isn’t C-suite or board of directors are just useless grifters trying to fleece the company… meanwhile they take another first class flight on the company dime while collecting their multimillion dollar bonuses.
Stallantis doing better than gm and Ford on profit? Hard to imagine given sales figures and inventory. The UAW better make sure of their financial figures or a strike could hasten the end of stallantis. The American auto industry is in a downward spiral- why not try working with management to improve products instead of bashing management and always the adversarial relationship. Good luck but the future doesn't look bright.
Authorization votes are great but at some point the rubber has to meet the road
Lol sounds like dumb planning
Let me see if I have this right. They want to close your plant and you think not showing up to work will make them want to keep it open?
If they want to sell vehicles in the near future
@@Benfromtoledo… but they already aren’t selling vehicles in the near future. They already have an oversupply glut of overpriced, low quality vehicles that no one wants…
You forgot the part about how actual line jobs have been removed and those components added to others over cycling other jobs affecting quality.
And quality inspection jobs cut.
And a quality testing facility closed.
And quality is used in negotiations.
Also..
Refusing to drop the prices affects the market for the product.
Stellantis is self sabotaging.
And sabotaging the membership.
You won nothing. Now you will be lucky if you can keep your jobs. And in case you haven’t noticed, nobody is buying the overpriced junk!!! What are you going to do Strike? You have absolutely no power. Strike and it will be just speed up the job losses!! Good luck
The jobs are already leaving.
For one thing Sir our stuff not junk the cheap suppliers Stellantis deals with is the problem get ur information correct 💯
Good. News! Can I get back to my tools on Monday?
Im a 685 member for 31 years and all i have to say is , if you would have explained all of this over a month ago to let the people at kokomo casting plant onow 5hat you would not hsve striked over the Holidays because They are young with no benefits ( because past UAW crooks gave them away ) they were scared of not giving there kids annive Christmas.
If you would have waited until after January 1st your outcome vote would have been better ...
We will back 5he UAW but timing is everything, and if President Trump does move our emissions back to the 80's so we can make all of the cars and trucks that the people wont , we will be back to making All of the vehicles we possibly can.
Thank You Brian Luttrell 685....
Get rid of the EV mandate. Drill baby drill
Dodge Hornet slowest selling vehicle since launched. Chrysler only vehicle in line-up is outdated minivan. Ram 🐏 hasn't had a compact/midsized truck in the US for 15yrs! Mopar enthusiasts have no choice but to shop the competition 😢
Hornet is made in Europe
I agree, but not finding much, every manufacturer seems to be having troubles of one sort or another.
I think your greed has caused thousands of people to lose their job. I think the level of greed from the mother company has caused people not to buy their vehicles. See where I’m going.
Durango costing 80k wonder why
The one we were looking at was R/T Plus package stickered at $60,000, incentives and discounts got us down to $55,000. $80,000 gets you into loaded out Citadels, SRT's, Jeep Cherokee L Summit Reserve package and pretty nice 1500's .
People of Belvidere should at least have the option to either temporarily transfer before the layoffs. It's ridiculous it's been 4 years with no pension credits or a raise for sub pay still off of last contract while some are off of two contracts ago. Something needs to be done.
We should go on strike now!
do you want a disgruntled cook make your food?
Break away from Stellantis.
Stand strong. Don't give up
😊 stallantis is so full of SHIT, I bought Two new ones this year, 24 durango srt, and a 24 Pacifica Road tripper. What has happened, the dealerships have driven up prices and the banks aren't giving rates below 7.5% with 800 credit scores. People I put my money where my mouth is,, BUY AMERICAN. OUR PEOPLE DEPEND ON IT. I THANK GOD EVERYDAY I AM HAPPILY RETIRED.
The problem is we can’t buy American anymore. The cost of every product coming from DJCR is so ridiculously overpriced, The average American can no longer afford it.
7.5% my god, what are you financing at 87 months lol. Local credit unions at 4.75% all day.
You mean like the Chargers with the Mexican made engines and German made transmissions? Or the Dodge/Ram trucks made in Mexico? Lol. My wifes 2017 Hyundai was made in Alabama and her Tesla was made in Texas.
@@tabbott429It is simply Ram trucks, Dodge has had zero to do with the production of the 4th and 5th Gen.
No trust......period. we we're screwed with the last contract.
Now that Harris has lost, there is hope that Stellantis dumps the headfirst dive into the EV market and actually listens to buyers in the 🇺🇸 US and go back to ICE V8's starting with the Charger. With the incoming administration, there is hope that the strict Biden EV Mandates and Cafe standards go away. Hopefully, manufacturing will come back to the USA and Canada.
Get rid of Tavares and have him take Fein with him and get true working-class leadership back.
Good luck with that
Well said !!!! 💪☝️✌️
Is there anything to shut down besides SHAP and Mopar🤦🏾♂️
Its over johnny
The sky is falling sir…
💪 UNION STRONG ! 🇺🇸🏆
So sorry ❤ ,hire the Temps back😅
Broken record what we gonna do about it
Upper management has only been out for the shareholders. Face it, the quality lacks and the prices are ridiculous. Corporate billionaires are ecstatic for trump, Unions are going to suffer. 😢
Really!? Have you looked at the last years stock performance? It makes American Airlines look good, and it SUCKS.
Getter Done. Fuck that company. Make it pay the working class
Please dont strike in Michigan 😮❤, its Illinois problem fam😊
This is more then an IL problem, This is a 5 billion and 400million dollar problem that should have gone to THE PEOPLE, EVERYONE. If they weren't going to open IL then 5 billion could have went into everyone's pocket so if you're happy about not making more money an hour then you must be the only one!
@@TonyCavallaro-q9f tell'em Tony!
You think it’s just an IL problem??? If you think they wont do to you what they did to us, you are delusional. Toledo didnt think it would happen to them either. We have to stand together and fight. The fight is not just about Belvidere, or the Durango, or Toledo, it’s a fight FOR ALL OF STELLANTIS WORKERS!
The Great White Hope, LGBTQ for Harris ❤ 2028
Local 12 and we are all ready to walk out…They are working us 6 days a week and we have union brothers and sisters getting fired??? What are we waiting for???
We at JNAP at all ready to walk out.