I know what you mean. I got a friend who will only buy trucks. But the second you ask him to use it as a truck to load something, he refuses because he doesn't want to ruin the truck lol I make fun of him constantly for it. He pretty much only uses the bed as a trunk.
Not sure if you remember, but the Rivian we drove in Colorado for the Test Drive had a broken Truck Bed Cover. It would not open or close and was stuck in about the same spot as yours.
@@JerryRigEverything They should do what samsung is doing with the hinges of the folding phones: some kind of really robust brush system to prevent debris from getting inside.
Rivian need just to make the thing manual. It could be an very easy retractable system like the seatbelts. There is no need to be all electric and automatic
Solid. Something that bugged me about the cameras also is if you have the tailgate down the backup camera is useless. It'd be nice to be able to switch to the "bed camera" in this case instead of the one under the bumper.
The "can't drive while door open" thing really gets to me. That is absolutely insane what if the door sensor breaks or there's an emergency. Even the falcon wing doors on model X allow you to drive with them open
My wife calls it 'breathing' when the R1T adjusts the height at stoplights. In my three months, I have many of the same complaints at just over 4,000 miles. The doors being hard to shut is not an issue to me because I like the quiet. Thanks, Jerry.
I would think that would be fixed with an over-the-air update. My Tesla automatically cracks one of the windows just a bit when the door is shutting, then rolls it up.
It’s jerryrigeverything it’s kinda always been more than just smartphones. It’s whatever he wants to do he’s got videos way back of him working on a jeep and woodworking
This video is produced so well! The camera placement, locations, and vocal presentation were great. Plus the content seemed like it had a lot of thought, care, and experience behind it. Thank you for making this, it was fun and informative to watch!
The automatic bed cover breaking is not a small thing, that shouldn't happen after minimal use and 1500 miles, and it absolutely should be covered under warranty.
@@mamamia8837 as its broken now then sure it's not a big deal, what's happens it if jams up fully closed and now you can't use the bed properly without pulling the whole system out? It might seem minor now but it's a bad sign failing this early on
I think for a truck that actually gets used, a manual folding or rolling cover would be better. Feel like the electric one is more for people who use the truck bed a handful of times per year, and didn't really need a truck to begin with. The less complex something is, the harder it is to break!
I guess I didn't need a truck to begin with but I never know when I will need a truck and I have hauled 80 bags of garden soil in the back of my 2019 Frontier CC without issue.
That's what happens when you have a silicone valley startup try to make a vehicle for a demographic that actually uses it for it's intended purpose. Absolutely ridiculous, no excuses for Rivian!
@@LermaBean There's going to be flaws with any new vehicle, especially from a small company. It's not ridiculous considering the insane amount of engineering skills it takes to make a vehicle roadworthy.
@@coherentpanda7115 but there are simple decisions that can be made to simplify your first vehicle and better suit the general demographic they are selling to.
@@shark8996 That's funny, I use my Truck bed at least 6 times a month for plants, mulch dirt. Paint, etc... But have never needed a trailer. I go camping and do all of my home stuff myself. What I have found is if there is a need for a trailer ultimately, shipping it to my house is cheaper then renting or buying a trailer and getting whatever it is I need. As a point a new riding lawn mower was only an additional $10 dollars to have shipped from Lowes to my house fully assembled, so why would I even waste the gas to go get it? Its all about the use case. I know plenty of farmers that also never tow anything that doesn't require a F350 or larger, so in this case and F150 wouldn't even suffice. So for I think your average DiY and camper home owner this is plenty, hell its even plenty for most of the "Country Folk" that just need a vehicle with high ground clearance and a truck bed but want an Audi level interior. But if I ran a yard/landscape company and was constantly towing a trailer for lawn equipment more then 100 miles a day, then no I wouldn't get an EV be it by ford, dodge, gmc, or rivian.
Agreed. Better than my brothers $90k RAM Rebel that's had the check engine light on about 5 times in the first 10,000 miles, the fuel pump explode, and an oil leak that had to be repaired over a month period. lolz. But that's Dodge for ya.
Any safety system that prevents driving depends on perspective. How common is that preventing driving due to open door saves a life compared to needing to take off quickly in an emergency: falling tree, bear attack, volcano. I wouldn't want to be dealing with a door jam due to a bush while trying to take off from a grizzly or moose attack. I'll vote for the driver being in full control of safety, as they are the one responsible for the vehicle. The vehicle on the other hand doesn't have the intelligence to determine when to correctly adjust safety measure depending on the situation.
Definitely feel like there should at least be a minimum or maximum open angle that would affect this safety feature. Door barely cracked or open about 20 degrees or less? You can drive, even if limited in speed to 40 KPH it would still be better than nothing.
when the (eventually) faulty sensor wrongfully reports the door is open when one is in the middle of nowhere, no signal, no civilisation; i'd really like it to fail safely and let me drive!
Let's add potential car jacking to the emergency list. Can Rivian have a switch option to engage or disengage the drive lockout with door ajar? Include a legal disclosure if necessary to protect from liability.
I mean a lot sof people don't like bed covers that are always closed and add an extra profile to the truck bed. But still want to be able to cover things that are in the bed. I think the retractable design is great and is likely something we will see more of with other manufactures. At any rate it's not over engineering that would imply it's engineered beyond requirement when it currently doesn't even meet requirements...
A widget-based dash would be smart. Get your speed by default but then you can add what gauges or numeric display widgets you want, delete the stuff you don't, and you're spot-on about how those cams would be useful for more than security!
Not being able to drive with the door open is actually a bigger problem than it seems. In a few years when things start breaking more regularly on these things, it's entirely possible that vehicles that are otherwise perfectly able to drive are stuck because of a faulty door sensor. Scream warnings at me sure, but don't prevent me from driving.
not to mention if you’re trying to carry something on a farm for elsewhere where the door doesn’t need to shut….wtf? they make these in my hometown, and i wasn’t planning on getting one, but i’m never stepping foot in one now. I refuse to take part in stupidity as much as possible and i can’t think of a dumber thing at the moment. wait till they double down, ….the car won’t start until all seat sensors that show a person sitting, have seats belts on.
@@threestans9096 that second part may become a legal requirement soon, so not really a valid complaint. And the door issue could be patched via software very easily. Let's give them a chance to fix it before you boycott lmao.
I have a 23 year old electric car and it does the same, but for the driver's door only. You open it, and the main battery contacts open immediately, you need to restart completely.
The door closing issue is probably caused by not enough inertia due to the mass of the door. Ford had to add ballast to the outer edge of their doors when they went to aluminum.
I found my ram doors are very well balanced for ease to close. More over it kills me when passengers slam my door closed so hard it feels like my head is gonna explode do to pressure.
My 2005 Lexus RX330, manufactured in Japan and sold new in North America, was completely quiet for wind until I sold it in 2020. The doors closed with a ridiculously gentle touch. I had to warn people not to slam the door.
The door closing hard is from the super tight construction of the cab. Just crack a window down and that’ll eliminate the problem. We have a traverse and we have to do this process.
Hmm nice catch, so the truck gets "pressurized" and holds the door back from closing. I'm actually interested to know if that is the case on the truck, jerry should reply with an update :)
I had to do this with my jeep, closing the door with all the windows closed made it more difficult to shut the door. Almost had to slam it shut. Cracking a window stopped this.
Overall it seems like an amazing piece of equipment and your truck bed not functioning is the reason that I like utilitarian things like that to not be automatic. I would rather just have it function by operating it manually. Not a lot of work to pull it shut or push it open after all. Sometimes things are over-engineered to the point of silliness.
@@xmuggsyx Not an expert but can't imagine gears/winding mechanism and tonneau cover weighing more than 25 to 30 lbs. 50 max?? Total truck weight is 7148 lbs.! Tonneau and motor parts weigh less than 1 percent (0.699%, more exactly) at 50 lbs. I'm no expert, but I'll go out on a limb: That makes ZERO perceptible, and barely measurable difference in range. If range is 300 miles, 300 x 0.699 = 2.1 miles less range at worst.
"I'm no expert on the statistics, but I feel like more accidents happen while your moving." Pure gold. Great review. Enjoy your R1T, and good luck on your off-road wheelchairs.
@@hereigoagain5050 I’m a little banged up but most importantly the other guy is also fine. He even forgave me and said vehicles can be replaced. People can’t. Really good guy and he gave me peace of mind.
Hey Jerry, congrats on the truck! It looks awesome! You may have slightly overloaded with the cardboard that could have caught the cover as it was going forward or reverse causing a calibration issue. Or my next guess would be possibly some torn cardboard or misc debris got caught in the track or guides blocking a sensor. Good luck! Looking forward to hearing what the culprit was in the resolution.
I always see these expensive cars with whole bunch of tech as gadgets rather then a tool but the way you used your truck definitely put some confidence in me that these are more than expensive gadgets.
@@NiloNova your earnings don’t reflect affordability for the general population, in fact your personal experience is pretty irrelevant. if you can afford a taycan you should know you’re well above average economically
Try closing the door with the window open to see if it's sound proofing related. Now the front window is broken maybe you could use your fancy scratch tools to see how scratch resistant car windows are.
In hindsight, do you think you'd be better off with the Lighting? It seems to be a problem-free truck and it is based on a proven platform. Also, watching channels like TFL trucks etc, the Lightning seems to be a decent off-roader.
@@BrainWaves399 I want to apologize if my response came off as being an a-hole...I just re-read it. Didn't mean it that way, just in case. Your point was a good one. 🙂
Great video asl awalys. Totally fair complaints, especially the doors. I have a service appt for my cover as well, getting some weird noises on closing.
It would make sense that the rubber seals are just too deep so it is more effort to compress them ... which keeps the sound and elements out. No doubt it could be fine tuned since other manufacturers (even high end quiet luxury cars, etc) do it. Of course, you could always use the normal line to someone slamming your door ... what is that an old farm truck ... but flip it and say slam it like an old work farm truck :)
Also with the doors, if the sensor/switch that monitors the door status ever broke, you could not drive even if the doors are properly closed. They might not broke too often or never but thats an unneeded "safety" feature that might leave you standed if it does.
Automotive tech here. Yes it is very annoying. The new vws let you drive it with the door open...for a few secs before it hits the electronic ebrake. Chest hit the wheel at 8mph.
It’s unfortunate you've run into these minor issues, they are here to help fix your issues. Your feedback is very helpful. Call your local Rivian service center or your Rivian Guide and I’m sure they will be able to help you out.
Love how you reviewed this truck, everything you did with the review seemed as least biased as possible. One thing I don’t like is how far into innovation we are as a species yet we forget some simple things that are quality of life changes. They seem minor but when your using something everyday it can add up to more than minor when your exposed to the annoyance every day
Been subscribed to this channel for years. I had no idea he also had a wheelchair company. Its insane to me just how much work this man puts in. Giving us quality teardown videos, tech videos, the EV hummer building, maintaining a whole family, and running a business on top of it all. With how long it takes to make videos alone, i dont know how you do it.
I honestly find it kind of insane how car manufacturers can put nearly a dusin camera`s on a vehicle, and NOT have them record as dashcams all the time. How can they miss such an obvious potential use case for all the camera`s...
You DO know that all this video footage has to be stored somewhere? And always running electrical equipment siphons energy from your "main propellant" so to speak.
They are likely recording, just not to an accessible file system. The footage will be there if someone sues them and they need to "find" it, you know, just in case.
@@man_eating_monkey My only concern is the read/write usage for this storage, especially if we're doing 4k video on 6+ cameras, and I would hope they would make replacing the storage with standard drives down the line easy in 10+ years. Tesla had an issue with this during their first model S years, until they upgraded, and now have you use your own storage devices. That seems to be the best route to go.
I would like to add, it would be super neat to see trip odometer readings align with total kw/hrs spent and total kw/hrs regenerated (for up hill and down hills separately). Also would be neat to have much greater draw for the power outlets to use as a work truck and home power bank.
Hey @JerryRigEverything im a cnc machinest working in Ontario and RIGHT NOW ! were making the rivian Frunk (front trunk) and its very deep and sort of wide . i find it cool that i get to make cars you drive today
Good review! I’d classify 2 of the “minor” issues as possible show stoppers unless there’s reasonable work arounds: truck won’t move if a door is open (you could be stranded if a door closed sensor fails). Constant ride height adjustment at stops would really be annoying. - also $1000 deductible is ridiculous (mine’s) $100.
Not only that, but lets say you are in a life and death situation and are trying to drive away from someone, but they open the door, well now you are stuck and can't get away. That's just an incredibly dumb feature. Like maybe just have a warning instead of that, though an over the air update could probably fix it. At least you should have the option.
@@justbecause9645 So lets say you are dropping someone off, and someone else jumps in your car to rob you as they are getting out. Well, sucks for you, you are stuck there. No chance at attempting to pull away before they get all the way in. It's just an incredibly dumb feature.
You wouldn't be stranded as long as you have a paper clip. These types of sensors are commonly faulty, and you can bypass them by just connecting the pins that detect it, thus keeping the loop always connected.
Really? I had a 4x4 long box and used it for everything, including feeding cattle. Lived 5 miles at the end of a 3 mile long dirt road that turned to mud in the Spring. Had to chain all 4 wheels to get in and out of there. Those were the days- lotsa fun! I have a VERY powerful stereo system. I'd turn it all the way up and go outside to swim in my irrigation pond, which was fed from a spring that came out of the ground right there. An electric pump and a long irrigation pipe at the source and about 8 feet down, fed the spring water to a cistern on the hill behind my house.
Try closing the doors with a window open a bit, see if it's a back pressure issue. Many vehicles have cabins with pressure relief baffles, maybe Rivian didn't design it properly for door closing.
Hey Jerry a few things about your concerns that might be helpful for you. 1. The dash board, the left button on the left side of the steering wheel, if you hold it it will go to other features that'll pop up on the left side of the instrument panel. 2. The door not shutting with a soft close is due to the new seals to make it more tightly secure againt the wind noise etc. 3. About the adjusting while at a stop light, it's auto leveling itself. While driving the vehicle, let's say you have it in standard mode it will lower to a low setting to help you gain more miles for your trip. When stopping auto adjust back to your setting of standard mode. 4. Your Tonneau Cover does need a calibration done so It can close properly. It happens at times that it will get out of calibration do to possible objects in the way etc. This can be at any Rivian Service Center and they'll be happy to help!
Good to see your review also covered pulling trailers, horse trailers in particular. Gives a more realistic approach than just what it can load in the back. Thanks That Huel curry looked nice too!
EV-towing range is a huge difference between petrol. There are not enough charging stations overall and the range just isn't far enough; like the cell-phone grid 15 years ago. Granted, that trailer would cut fuel range in half in a lot of trucks too, but that distance is still further than the half you get with an EV.
This is why I want to push for more plug-in hybrids until battery tech gets better. Having both an electric drivetrain for shorter routes, and a petrol drivetrain for longer drives would provide the benefits of both. And most people don't do much long distance driving, so it would still have HUGE benefits to reducing gas consumption.
@@ACanadianDude true but carrying a heavy engine, transmission, and other parts you won't use 90% of the time means it will use more electricity and perform worse than a normal EV. So it would only be worth it if you take road trips like every week.
The doors not fully closing and requiring too much force happened to me when I bought my Tesla. Turns out that they just needed to be broken in. I don’t carry rear passengers often and those doors took longer to break in - but the front doors became loose after 1K miles. Thanks for the video and glad to see you’re not babying the thing and really using it. Things are meant to be used! 👍🏼
Hahahahahah you spend so much money and the doors dont work. Even shit chinese cars manage to do simple things like that. hahahaha People still defend these ev manufacturers
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi Troll alert! I don’t think most people defend the manufacturers but instead defend the concept of switching from gas to electric. We are still in the early-adopters phase. Someone’s gotta start the switch for it to gain momentum, we can’t just be waiting for the quality to improve before jumping in. There are always bugs at these early stages of the product. These Silicon Valley EV manufacturers don’t have the 100 years of manufacturing history and expertise behind them so it’s understandable (now that Ford and GM etc. are also entering the market, their products should have better quality but are generally less innovative). But generally, I agree - at least Tesla has been around for a while now, they shouldn’t have production defects like we are still encountering. But their demand is so high that they don’t have any incentive to fix things and are selling as-is - people are waiting 2 years to get their product. They’re expanding as fast as they can. Once their demand slows down - in other words, they’ve exhausted early adopter market segment, then they’ll be forced to make changes.
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi things settle and behave differently when brand new versus broken in, that's just how different materials work. I'd rather things be a bit too stiff at first, if it means designers took that into consideration and made it so it'll age well.
@@JerryRigEverything and I am very happy you replied to me 😱👍 I just told it to my older son and he is very happy about that. He also follows you and watches your videos regulary
@@PreachingChief He's always talked like that, at least on video. I've stopped noticing over the years, but I agree it's unusual and sounds affected. Hard to know if he's always been like that or it's something he developed as part of his video brand (which one has to admit has been very successful - he's obviously a competent chap).
@@PreachingChief Ha Ha, thanks for the laugh bro. I thought I was the only one that felt that way. I like his content, but don't really watch too many of his videos because of the way he talks.
The air suspension adjusting at stop lights is common for any car fitted with it. My Cayenne Turbo does it even though Porsche has been using air suspension for over 15 years now. These cars are constantly adjusting themselves over time depending on road conditions, pitch, roll, and speed of the vehicle for optimal driving.
If they would pause the adjustments when the truck is not moving, and resume them when it is, I think most wouldn't notice it at all, as they would blend into the roads own bumps while driving.
My LR4 does the same. Whatever reason it does it, it seems to be either desirable to do for optimal safety/performance, or unavoidable, perhaps due to stopping on an uneven surface and the shocks adjusting for it.
it's by design, it adjusts so you can have the best traction considering you're not moving so you use less breaks, and have less chance of slippage when you start moving again, not something you could really change.
The inability to drive with the doors open is an issue with most newer vehicles that don't have an actual transmission shift cable. It's extremely frustrating as a mechanic
If that was the case for me 12 years ago I would of gotten probably beaten to death and robbed. I had saw two acquaintances walking down the road and I was with my buddy and we stopped cause they waved me down, they were extremely high on drugs and said hey come to this party, and then they opened my door and tried to pull me out of my fucking car. Luckily I was driving a 1987 BMW 325i with a 5 speed, so I revved it up to 5k rpms and dumped the clutch and dragged one of the motherfuckers 100 yards down the road cause his arm got caught in my seatbelt. Motherfuckers. The future fucking sucks.
That's a thing? Not just an annoying beep, but the vehicle actually won't move? Good lord. My Tacoma, with a manual transmission and hand-operated parking brake, will protest over a couple mph, but you can absolutely move it in the driveway, in the garage, etc. with the door open. So if a door switch fails the right way, the vehicle is stranded? Nice.
Oh for sure. I hate those electronic shifters. Was a BMW tech for 16 years. They'd just put it back into park if the door was open and it moved. GREAT on the transmission.
It's a pain ,I hated it in my 21' F-150,however, leave seatbelt on,or put in drive with door already open, it'll let you then ,not ideal,but still workable.
5:55 - ALWAYS add glass coverage to your auto insurance especially if you have a newer vehicle where the windshield is over $1000. Glass coverage is a few dollars extra a month on your car insurance. Worth it!
It wouldve been more surprising if a startup auto manufacturer's first attempt at a production vehicle didn't have any problems after 1500 miles. Heck of a truck.
Not being able to drive when the door(s) open is kind of a major issue. Particularly if the truck got hit or something and the door broke then you're just stranded there because Rivian wouldn't let you drive. Driving with considerably low level of noise in the nature is cool.
Excellent consumer advice piece. This is the kind of reviews of cars we really need. Not top gears "can it do 0-60" or drift round a bend etc Good stuff.
@@rodneyhoehsle7728 the r1t is faster than a performance model y 0-60 in 3 seconds, in the last update they added a drifting mode its the best feature ever
Your truck isn't the only one that won't let you drive with a door open. I am an ASE certified mechanic and I have to have the doors open while moving from time to time and it sucks. Chrysler, bmw,mercadies , and such all set the electric ebrake when a door opens.
Your right. That's why they have such safety features. Not sure about a manual jeep..... But either way, that did did make what seems like an incompetent mistake that took his life. Very sad.
The Roadster, Tesla’s first available vehicle cost $109,000 upon release, not $250,000 as Zack stated. The point is correct though. They started off selling more expensive vehicles to finance the operation.
Nice review. I'm relatively old-school electric with my 10 year old Nissan Leaf and luckily nothing has broken on it and I'm still on the original batteries because I have babied it (garaged and never left it fully charged for too long).
Try a little experiment with regard to the door closing issue. Just open a window on each side of the truck and try to close the doors again. If the doors close easier with the windows open a bit, its an interior venting issue. Most cars have hidden vents built into the interior to prevent air from getting trapped inside and compressing when closing the doors. The compressed air will try to rebound the doors back open. If the venting is insufficient, it can cause that difficult door closing issue.
Crazy, I was just wheeling on some of my favorite roads in the northern Sierra (TNF/BLM) and came across a couple whose Rivian was DOA. He said that they had plenty of range and everything seemed to be working normal and then....nothing. No dash lights, power...nothing. He said he had another issue with id a few weeks back and the dealer fixed it. Lucky for them they were on a decent fire road that a tow truck could navigate. Shit, I had no idea what the hell I was even looking at; never seen one. I saw the thumbnail for this video and realized that was what It was. I had to chuckle because I'm 32 years and 263,000 miles into my Toyota 4x4 with "0" issues and it's never left me stranded.
My Odyssey won't let me drive with the door open and it is very annoying! Like your Humvee, are you noticing better traction with the extra weight, or does it just crumble the Earth?
@@Furious321 and that's the way it should be done. I have a lot of gripes with RAM but that override is absolutely the best solution. Lockout at first but let me override it for when I need a door open for some reason
@@Its-Just-Zip It would make sense if it was a temporary override thing (until shut off as an example). No doubt, there were injuries (carelessness) that caused this safety feature on most cars.
I heard that the reason the tonneau cover fails is because its powered by one motor on one side. I believe they are going to add a second motor on the other side to so that the cover moves evenly and with move power.
Or go for a "retro" optional version with a manual cover. Less hassle, less fails. Not everything needs to be automated, esp. if accessing the motor is an issue. If a chunk of carboard is lodged in there, it should not require a visit to a shop to remove, as a truck is highly likely to accumulate stuff in its innards if the flatbed is being regularly used. At the very least a simple access port should be there.
That's the same issue people have with standing desks. The one motor desks tend to fail quickly, with a 2nd motor they run more efficiently, and will last much longer.
I don't know what kind of tech you've got in that voice box, dude, but let me tell you, the bass is full, the mids are punchy, and the treb is crystal clear!
This is just personal preference, but my only real complaints with EVs is the electronic EVERYTHING. I want a truck with mechanical doors, windows, latches, locks, tailgate, etc; but I'm probably the only one. I also don't buy new... so I'm perfectly happy with my old Dodge until I can electrify the chassis! :3
@@cyrusadamrevilla3851 The new will fill the future by default. It isn't automatically improved simply because it is new. The old, on the other hand, isn't worse just because it's aged. It also isn't necessarily better just because it has stood the test of time. What matters is if it can continue to work in the present and future, old or new. My truck has, with minimal maintenance. And, barring catastrophic failure, it likely will be long after I'm gone. ...as long as it's next owners keep maintaining it. :3
I hate those door handles, they aren't very ergonomic. Electric tailgates should have a manual option. I find myself waiting for them to open/close a lot of the time. You would think in order to increase the range, anything that didn't need to be electric wouldn't, but I think using wires instead of cables and rods makes the car cheaper to build, even though the mechanical is probably more reliable in the long run.
@@Cheepchipsable I agree. I won't trust any vehicle that will be inoperable (and unescapable) in the event of electrical failure. Even if every system in an old car dies, you can still open the doors. An electrical fire could trap you in a modern EV you could otherwise escape with a simple mechanical lever. O~O
the door thing is a deal breaker. That is a big safety issue. There can be times you need to move the vehicle with the door open emergencies happen. Or situations like an attack/ car jacking this vehicle will be a tomb for you. Also this feature will prevent any medical/fire or law enforcement from adopting it as they regularlly need the doors to open while driving
@@notspm9157 Agreed. All modern vehicles need an emergency override that will disable all of the safety festures, but also put the vehicle in limp mode to prevent overuse.
@@notspm9157 exactly if that sensor fails you are fucked. What happens after normal wear and tear? will that door sensor work after someone has put 60,000miles on it or over 100k or owned it for 3t0 5 yrs. What if you get into a tiny fender bender accident? or some dingus dings your door in a parking lot? are you just fucked ? These people making cars dont think when they design shit
I live in Brazil of all places and I know more than one dumbass who bought pickup trucks as a showoff instead of a workhorse, it's so stupid on so many levels I became entertained by them waiting on transit with only one person inside like abunch of idiots.
@@illuminatedpatriot9347 lol if someone has a sports car and never accelerates fast or never drives faster than 60mph then yea they aren't using their sports car properly. Like another commenter said, it's like buying a pair of hiking boots only to wear inside as a pair of slippers. Believe it or not but things are designed for a purpose, if you have a truck but you only ever drive it as a Honda civic, it's totally fair for people to question you. Nobody would think it's normal for someone who works in an office to daily drive a dump truck to and from home, because that isn't what it's designed for.
More than likely has something in the track. I'm sure they have a load limiter on the cover. One reason I didn't put an auto cover on my F150. Get the lightning will have all the cluster info you'll need. Nice truck first editions are not always thought out perfect.
Nice video--informative and, as I am sure you hear a lot, your voice is oddly calming and is a welcome change from so many other hosts out there that seem to use volume and manic manicness to get their points across. Thanks for taking the time to make this!
Sound proofing materials should add weight to the door and that should help in closing. I suspect that the closing issue has to do with the new door seals. Try opening the widow, any window, a bit to allow the air to get out when closing the door. Unless opening a window is like opening the door and the truck will not move. There should be an interlock in the seat that senses the driver in the seat so opening the door will not stop the vehicle from moving. Whomever came up with that is a safety weenie.
Is it a first-generation vehicle? It seems reasonable that it would have some minor issues or fixes needed. The motors, battery, drivetrain, range, power, etc are all good.
@@littlejackalo5326 No the vehicle hasn't been out for decades. They just started production last year (barely been in production mode for 8 months). Where are you getting your information from? It's woefully incorrect.
Each issue pretty consistent with other reviews I've seen on youtube. Sure hope they get software updates out for the dashcam while driving and the overly minimal dashboard display. Minimal is good, but as with all things too much of a good thing is bad; balance is always best. Both should be a no-brainer for them, we'll see if they're listening... Hopefully the dashcam things isn't due to a lack of storage for the videos (and no USB port for external storage if necessary).
I LOVE your videos and live vicariously through you. I endeavor to install solar panels and a battery system at our vacation house - I closely watched those videos. I also endeavor to buy a Rivian just as soon as I can get my wife to agree (as you said, happy wife; happy life). Good info on the doors, tonneau cover, etc. Maybe in the next video you can discuss any issues with charging? Logistics? Time? L2 vs. L3? etc. BTW, it seems like a bit of Karma (not Fisker) that you took a rock to the windshield. Around 14:44 in the video it shows a number of rocks on the running board of your horse trailer just waiting to fly off the trailer, ping off the road, and impact on someone’s windshield. A quick dusting with a whisk broom would have alleviated this situation… ;-) Thanks!
for the doors that are hard to close.... try cracking a window next time... sometimes is just about good seals and pressure in the cabin can not escape fast enough 🙂
Absolutely right, some car manufacturers fixed similar issues in exactly the same way, automatically lowering the passenger window a little. Maybe rivian can also fix this with an update.
Meh. Every car I’ve had didn’t need to open the windows to let the cabin pressure out when you close the doors, in order to fully close the doors properly with a normal amount of force.
As for the range being reduce when towing a trailer, why don't they make a trailer with a built-in battery, included in a strong floor that could be plug in parallel to the one in the truck, could be switch on or off and be recharge on its own.
Been advocating for an EV friendly trailer that also uses regen brakes to help further recharge the main vehicle's batteries (not sure how complex that might be) or the trailer have batteries that the trailer's regen brakes will charge up to then feed into the vehicle. I'd rather the regen brake only as that will shave off the weight of the batteries on the trailer.
I think not having one 240V outlet is a huge oversight on their side, and a huge flaw. firstly, you cannot charge another car in a pinch (offroad). secondly, it's an eletric car - you should have access to all of it's power, it's stupid to need to haul a generator (for some specific purpose).
It looked like the cardboard was moving when you opened the cover on your rear gate, so it was pretty tight. Could a piece have gotten pulled back inside with the cover and be causing the issue?
@@mgabrysSF you seen the inside of the majority of power tools nowadays? Nylon gears are everywhere (though mostly in the lower cost brackets). The higher end stuff does usually use sintered metal gears though.
Nice! My wife has a catering business and they use a Tacoma to haul around their equipment and it's used more of an urban utility and not so much off road. Though it can! I'm also looking forward to the Cybertruck. Either way, it'll be interesting to see all the new workhorses in action. Thanks for making the video!
This is an EXCELLENT review! I dislike reviews when a person has had just one week of ownership. To me, you're still on the honeymoon with the vehicle. What you shared means a lot plus your overall knowledge (and your apparent family's) of EV's. It also looks like your wife's mechanical horse is being fed premium hay. As others have commented, it's great to see you use your truck instead of just having it as a show piece. I'm impressed that the truck calculates your towing ability and continues to adjust it. I would find the constant auto adjustment of the suspension annoying to say the least. Lastly, I feel like you OWN this review of the Rivian. There are certain cars/trucks that people review extremely well. Zack is synonymous with Rivian.
Every motoring journalist have a typical one off review that discuss ergonomics, drivability, build quality and ride and comfort. Then later they have the long term review on every model they had reviewed, but these comes too few and far in between.
Remember when you regenerate power going downhill you can only recover a portion of the energy, about 20% max. This is a benefit but a lot of people think it's all the power. If you fed that much power back into a battery, you'd still lose a lot through resistance but you'd light the battery on fire doing it.
regenerative braking is closer to 70% efficient, unless you also use normal brakes at the same time. if it was 20% EV motors would overheat. energy doesnt just disappear.
Jere, he never said anything about 'efficiency'. The truth is that he is right, it is strictly an engineering design call: The circuits, the battery, the coolant, etc. can't handle the full power backfeed from possibly 10,000 lbs of truck and load going downhill in full regen mode. So, the 20% is a safe place to stay without overloading the system... (And, since I am an engineer, with my own EV, and have seen these exact numbers, I agree with Dave.)
I feel like doors shutting is a pretty important part of driving a vehicle. Everyone of your “mild inconveniences” is a deal breaker for a $70,000 vehicle. Also Tesla was offering a one of a kind unique sports car to start. Rivian is making a (obviously) flawed everyday pickup. That puts you in the market as other trucks that don’t have the same annoyances for less money. My opinion though, that’s why they make multiple vehicles so we don’t have to drive the same thing if we don’t want. 🤷🏼♂️
Well there also aren’t really much in the way of options for an electric truck. I feel like at this point it’s a novelty item, maybe after a few years it will become a more common vehicle but for now I wouldn’t plan on using one for a go to pickup truck
$70k for a truck that runs on batteries? I'll bet a new set of those is not going to be cheap. Not worth the financial risk if this thing goes to junk. And the clown car styling needs an upgrade, not that any sane person would want one anyways.
I would definitely be interested in seeing you do an all day/overlanding trip in this truck as it is electric, I would like to see how range is out in the wilderness. Interesting to see people actually taking these trucks that we tested off the highways, where they are supposed to go
It’s funny,I watched a different review on the Rivian and the guy made a comment about how small the gap was between the cover and the truck bed, he mentioned it probably won’t be long before some debri gets caught in there! Definitely something they need to change!
This is proof I will keep my 13 3.5 ecoboost- at 380,000 miles it’s a beast… never had a single issues until 180k when the throttle body gave up. I will say I have seen the rivian and sat in it I like it a lot… but wouldn’t consider it for the price, lack of long term reliability, and I can say the towing mileage kills me. I like to tow my camper with my atv on the back of our truck. And I can go from NC to NY or Florida and only stop once. They are nice- I would like a rivian or lightning for my wife and for the days that we don’t need my truck but not for $10,000+
You use your rivian much like most of us do where I love including me with my antiquated dodge which is not only old enough to vote, but buy its own hard liquor as well. The two things you are missing on it are a brush guard , which helps protect your truck. And a winch, because if you bottom out and stick that baby you gonna really needed that too got your self out of a jam. I have both on mine.
I wouldn't expect the price of this truck to come down over time. Its priced in the luxury vehicle range. Rivian may come out with a more base model truck or smaller truck that's cheaper. I also wouldn't consider this truck to be in the "technology" category like consumer electronics (TVs, DVD players, Drones, etc) where the price for a similar product drastically comes down over time.
@@lawn-n-orderlandscaping1389 or people like myself who use a truck and are willing to sacrifice size just so I never have to walk into a dealership for service again.
I could be wrong, but, I’m pretty sure all cars made since the 90’s typically contain baffles for this very reason. Car manufacturers realized that making a quieter cabin meant that they would have more of an air tight space. So they incorporate baffles, usually behind the cabin and under some panel that you’d likely never touch, like plastic body panels or quarter panel. They likely just need to modify how it passes sudden air flow. I have the same issue on a 2022 Elantra. I think it’s just the stiffness in the rubber they use or poor location. Such as in the trunk area.
or simply add soft close to all the doors. The entire car cover and rear door is automatic so its odd Rivian havnet made all the doors soft close this would solve the issue and still maintain a tight seal around the doors
Thank you for calling a truck a tool and supposed to get dirty. I put my '07 F150 through a lot of work and she rips and I can't stand seeing all these big trucks looking spotless and untouched by anything other than pavement lol
Hey first time here. Love the video, for your door close issue try cracking the windows just a little bit. I feel it has to do with how tightly they seal up. Kenworth semis are the same way. Just a guess to try.
The charge time or range just needs to get better for real people who depend on vehicles. I am a roofer and work in the south. In the event of a hurricane EVERYONE depends on gasoline to successfully continue working. I would love an electric truck (especially the cyber truck 😏) but it's simply not yet realistic 😔
I like that you really use your truck, not like most people just buying it with no need or use. You’re a real truck guy.
Huh cringe 😬
I know what you mean. I got a friend who will only buy trucks. But the second you ask him to use it as a truck to load something, he refuses because he doesn't want to ruin the truck lol I make fun of him constantly for it. He pretty much only uses the bed as a trunk.
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@@MG-im8ku trucks are mostly used to haul than load🤷♂️
Not sure if you remember, but the Rivian we drove in Colorado for the Test Drive had a broken Truck Bed Cover. It would not open or close and was stuck in about the same spot as yours.
Hopefully they have a solution soon!
@@JerryRigEverything Bring it over with your friend and your Roadster in tow.
Would be interesting to see what's broken inside ;)
@@JerryRigEverything They should do what samsung is doing with the hinges of the folding phones: some kind of really robust brush system to prevent debris from getting inside.
Rivian need just to make the thing manual. It could be an very easy retractable system like the seatbelts. There is no need to be all electric and automatic
Solid. Something that bugged me about the cameras also is if you have the tailgate down the backup camera is useless. It'd be nice to be able to switch to the "bed camera" in this case instead of the one under the bumper.
Very true. That would be a perfect solution.
@@Johnny2Feathers yes, like making sure that the roadkill is really dead
My 2020 fi50 has the same issue
Great idea!
Same problem on my Nissan Frontier
The "can't drive while door open" thing really gets to me. That is absolutely insane what if the door sensor breaks or there's an emergency. Even the falcon wing doors on model X allow you to drive with them open
Yeah, these "safety" "features" seem to be solving a problem that is less of a problem than when this feature breaks...
These EVs will only get worse! I can't wait to see this EV industry become a complete disaster!
@@kafilkavich707 this is not ev exclusive.....
My 2019 Durango automatically goes into park if you open the door while in drive/reverse at low speed.
@@kafilkavich707we’re not going back to gas. the ev industry is moving forward fast and it’s clear
The thing that i like about your vehicle videos are your drone shots! Out of the world, zack!
READ MY NAME!
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Zack? Isn’t he Jerry? Who’s jerry then??
@@TheMackie93 "jerry-rig" is a term. Zack is his real name.
@@TheMackie93 Jerry is also the name of his grandpa.
@@wade7959 Jerry is also the name of a cartoon mouse.
My wife calls it 'breathing' when the R1T adjusts the height at stoplights. In my three months, I have many of the same complaints at just over 4,000 miles. The doors being hard to shut is not an issue to me because I like the quiet. Thanks, Jerry.
crack one widow when others are getting in solved edit roll one window down just a bit. Take the air lock away doors will shut super easy.
Do not get a Corolla, too noisy for me.
@@chrisunderhill8853 so they just didnt put a vent for the pressure in the cabin? Usually all cars have that, for this exact reason...
I would think that would be fixed with an over-the-air update. My Tesla automatically cracks one of the windows just a bit when the door is shutting, then rolls it up.
@@jb007gd so does my 30 year old BMW. I would think they can accomplish this with an OTA update.
This channel went from smart phones to electric vehicles and I'm not even mad 🤷🏻♂️
READ MY NAME!
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I wasn't even mad when he went to home gardening and he made that insane self watering garden for him and his wife. Those videos were awesome lol
It’s jerryrigeverything it’s kinda always been more than just smartphones. It’s whatever he wants to do he’s got videos way back of him working on a jeep and woodworking
I'm not going to lie: the phone torture thing did get kind of old...
It's all technology at the end of the day
This video is produced so well! The camera placement, locations, and vocal presentation were great. Plus the content seemed like it had a lot of thought, care, and experience behind it. Thank you for making this, it was fun and informative to watch!
Thank you!
The automatic bed cover breaking is not a small thing, that shouldn't happen after minimal use and 1500 miles, and it absolutely should be covered under warranty.
I saw a Rivian with the exact same issue that was a demo at the May FSAE competition this year
It's a small thing if they cover it under warranty. 🙂👍
It is a small thing. It does not effect on your driving or getting on your destination.
@@JamesNormanYT So if they fix it and it breaks every 1500 miles thats surely just a small inconvenience.
@@mamamia8837 as its broken now then sure it's not a big deal, what's happens it if jams up fully closed and now you can't use the bed properly without pulling the whole system out? It might seem minor now but it's a bad sign failing this early on
I think for a truck that actually gets used, a manual folding or rolling cover would be better. Feel like the electric one is more for people who use the truck bed a handful of times per year, and didn't really need a truck to begin with. The less complex something is, the harder it is to break!
I guess I didn't need a truck to begin with but I never know when I will need a truck and I have hauled 80 bags of garden soil in the back of my 2019 Frontier CC without issue.
That's what happens when you have a silicone valley startup try to make a vehicle for a demographic that actually uses it for it's intended purpose. Absolutely ridiculous, no excuses for Rivian!
@@LermaBean There's going to be flaws with any new vehicle, especially from a small company. It's not ridiculous considering the insane amount of engineering skills it takes to make a vehicle roadworthy.
@@LermaBean It's rivians first truck, they weren't in the game for 50-60+ years like Ford, Chevy, Dodge etc. Their designs will get better with time.
@@coherentpanda7115 but there are simple decisions that can be made to simplify your first vehicle and better suit the general demographic they are selling to.
Cool truck. Great update. (Though if I spent $75K on a truck, I'd be super disappointed the bed cover broke already)
I'd be super disappointed if it could only go a hundred miles on a full charge carrying a load.
@@Atlas-ov1oh Welcome to the world of EV's. They've got a long ways to go. It's a city boys truck
@@shark8996 That's funny, I use my Truck bed at least 6 times a month for plants, mulch dirt. Paint, etc... But have never needed a trailer. I go camping and do all of my home stuff myself. What I have found is if there is a need for a trailer ultimately, shipping it to my house is cheaper then renting or buying a trailer and getting whatever it is I need. As a point a new riding lawn mower was only an additional $10 dollars to have shipped from Lowes to my house fully assembled, so why would I even waste the gas to go get it? Its all about the use case. I know plenty of farmers that also never tow anything that doesn't require a F350 or larger, so in this case and F150 wouldn't even suffice. So for I think your average DiY and camper home owner this is plenty, hell its even plenty for most of the "Country Folk" that just need a vehicle with high ground clearance and a truck bed but want an Audi level interior. But if I ran a yard/landscape company and was constantly towing a trailer for lawn equipment more then 100 miles a day, then no I wouldn't get an EV be it by ford, dodge, gmc, or rivian.
Agreed. Better than my brothers $90k RAM Rebel that's had the check engine light on about 5 times in the first 10,000 miles, the fuel pump explode, and an oil leak that had to be repaired over a month period. lolz. But that's Dodge for ya.
agreed
Any safety system that prevents driving depends on perspective. How common is that preventing driving due to open door saves a life compared to needing to take off quickly in an emergency: falling tree, bear attack, volcano. I wouldn't want to be dealing with a door jam due to a bush while trying to take off from a grizzly or moose attack. I'll vote for the driver being in full control of safety, as they are the one responsible for the vehicle. The vehicle on the other hand doesn't have the intelligence to determine when to correctly adjust safety measure depending on the situation.
Reluctant to get a newer car because of all the hand holding features
Definitely feel like there should at least be a minimum or maximum open angle that would affect this safety feature. Door barely cracked or open about 20 degrees or less? You can drive, even if limited in speed to 40 KPH it would still be better than nothing.
Perhaps a feature like what most nice cars have where there is a option to turn it off.
when the (eventually) faulty sensor wrongfully reports the door is open when one is in the middle of nowhere, no signal, no civilisation; i'd really like it to fail safely and let me drive!
Let's add potential car jacking to the emergency list. Can Rivian have a switch option to engage or disengage the drive lockout with door ajar? Include a legal disclosure if necessary to protect from liability.
I think a genius solution to the automatic bed cover issue would be to not have an automatic bed cover.
It's totally possible to engineer a sealed drive compartment with some sort of magnets. It's just a poorly designed solution.
@@blue-pi2kt I think you just defined “overengineering.”
@@BillLaBrie it's a luxury vehicle, if it can't deliver on a feature. Further engineer it until it works or just don't advertise the feature.
@@blue-pi2kt yes you got it right after the “or.”
I mean a lot sof people don't like bed covers that are always closed and add an extra profile to the truck bed. But still want to be able to cover things that are in the bed. I think the retractable design is great and is likely something we will see more of with other manufactures. At any rate it's not over engineering that would imply it's engineered beyond requirement when it currently doesn't even meet requirements...
A widget-based dash would be smart. Get your speed by default but then you can add what gauges or numeric display widgets you want, delete the stuff you don't, and you're spot-on about how those cams would be useful for more than security!
Not being able to drive with the door open is actually a bigger problem than it seems. In a few years when things start breaking more regularly on these things, it's entirely possible that vehicles that are otherwise perfectly able to drive are stuck because of a faulty door sensor.
Scream warnings at me sure, but don't prevent me from driving.
not to mention if you’re trying to carry something on a farm for elsewhere where the door doesn’t need to shut….wtf?
they make these in my hometown, and i wasn’t planning on getting one, but i’m never stepping foot in one now. I refuse to take part in stupidity as much as possible and i can’t think of a dumber thing at the moment. wait till they double down, ….the car won’t start until all seat sensors that show a person sitting, have seats belts on.
@@threestans9096 that second part may become a legal requirement soon, so not really a valid complaint.
And the door issue could be patched via software very easily. Let's give them a chance to fix it before you boycott lmao.
I have a 23 year old electric car and it does the same, but for the driver's door only. You open it, and the main battery contacts open immediately, you need to restart completely.
That’s the way microwave ovens behave too. I’d wager that 90% of microwaves get thrown out because of a faulty door sensor. Super wasteful.
My 2017 Ram 1500 won't let me drive with the the door open
The door closing issue is probably caused by not enough inertia due to the mass of the door. Ford had to add ballast to the outer edge of their doors when they went to aluminum.
Ford aluminium is trash
@@JoeG71299 do you realize Ford aluminum is just aluminum? They didn’t create their own metal lol.
I found my ram doors are very well balanced for ease to close. More over it kills me when passengers slam my door closed so hard it feels like my head is gonna explode do to pressure.
come on , are people really getting that pathetic and weak ?
My 2005 Lexus RX330, manufactured in Japan and sold new in North America, was completely quiet for wind until I sold it in 2020. The doors closed with a ridiculously gentle touch. I had to warn people not to slam the door.
The door closing hard is from the super tight construction of the cab. Just crack a window down and that’ll eliminate the problem. We have a traverse and we have to do this process.
Interesting. I'll try that.
Some cars automatically lower the door window a little when closing the door, maybe this is something simple to implement in an update
Hmm nice catch, so the truck gets "pressurized" and holds the door back from closing. I'm actually interested to know if that is the case on the truck, jerry should reply with an update :)
If this is true then doesn’t that mean you could suffocate yourself if you slept in the cab? Most vehicles have enough air seams to let oxygen in.
I had to do this with my jeep, closing the door with all the windows closed made it more difficult to shut the door. Almost had to slam it shut. Cracking a window stopped this.
Overall it seems like an amazing piece of equipment and your truck bed not functioning is the reason that I like utilitarian things like that to not be automatic. I would rather just have it function by operating it manually. Not a lot of work to pull it shut or push it open after all. Sometimes things are over-engineered to the point of silliness.
I think that's where 90% of the issues with EV's comes from. Innovative to a fault
Wouldn't it make it lighter to remove things like that also therefore increasing range?
Perfect. Agree with this comment and the others on this comment.
I still despise electric windows and long for a hand crank. Just a weird quark.
@@tinmanrobby LOL. Quark: subatomic particle.
Quirk: an unusual preference or situation.
@@xmuggsyx Not an expert but can't imagine gears/winding mechanism and tonneau cover weighing more than 25 to 30 lbs. 50 max?? Total truck weight is 7148 lbs.! Tonneau and motor parts weigh less than 1 percent (0.699%, more exactly) at 50 lbs.
I'm no expert, but I'll go out on a limb: That makes ZERO perceptible, and barely measurable difference in range.
If range is 300 miles, 300 x 0.699 = 2.1 miles less range at worst.
"I'm no expert on the statistics, but I feel like more accidents happen while your moving." Pure gold. Great review. Enjoy your R1T, and good luck on your off-road wheelchairs.
Can confirm. I was just involved in a motor vehicle accident and I was in fact moving.
Until I stopped.
Abruptly.
@@jebuschrist9161 LoL. Driving doesn't cause accidents. Unexpected stopping causes accidents.
@@hereigoagain5050 I caused the accident. I wish I was joking. Always put your seatbelt on before moving the vehicle.
@@jebuschrist9161 Sorry! Hope you are OK.
@@hereigoagain5050 I’m a little banged up but most importantly the other guy is also fine. He even forgave me and said vehicles can be replaced. People can’t. Really good guy and he gave me peace of mind.
Hey Jerry, congrats on the truck! It looks awesome! You may have slightly overloaded with the cardboard that could have caught the cover as it was going forward or reverse causing a calibration issue. Or my next guess would be possibly some torn cardboard or misc debris got caught in the track or guides blocking a sensor. Good luck! Looking forward to hearing what the culprit was in the resolution.
I always see these expensive cars with whole bunch of tech as gadgets rather then a tool but the way you used your truck definitely put some confidence in me that these are more than expensive gadgets.
Also,
*discombobulate*
@@NiloNova huh? In what world is a $80k car affordable?
@@NanoMine Aurora just wants to flex on us.
@@NiloNova your earnings don’t reflect affordability for the general population, in fact your personal experience is pretty irrelevant. if you can afford a taycan you should know you’re well above average economically
@@NiloNova you are a funny guy.
Try closing the door with the window open to see if it's sound proofing related.
Now the front window is broken maybe you could use your fancy scratch tools to see how scratch resistant car windows are.
We want a teardown of the Rivian, but I think it won't even survive the bend/bin test 😅
Scratches at level 1-2 with deeper scratches at 3-4
how strong do you think zack is? 😂
@@UnexpectedTokens you never know. All he need is to wear a black suit and he's indestructible Hitman agent infinity ♾️
Don't dare him...
He might just take it apart just to see what's inside.
@@UnexpectedTokens I think he is 69 times stronger than the Hulk.
In hindsight, do you think you'd be better off with the Lighting? It seems to be a problem-free truck and it is based on a proven platform. Also, watching channels like TFL trucks etc, the Lightning seems to be a decent off-roader.
This is why it's good to wait a couple of model years, if possible, so that the manufacturer can (hopefully) work out the kinks.
Hmmm, for that to happen, we still need early adapters,😜
@@BrainWaves399 obviously... Hence the "if possible" lol..
@@BrainWaves399 I want to apologize if my response came off as being an a-hole...I just re-read it. Didn't mean it that way, just in case. Your point was a good one. 🙂
I say after 2026 all the EVs will be up to pair they just not ready right now..Plus thats when more models will done caught up
@@chris_favreau 🙏🏿👍🏿
Great video asl awalys. Totally fair complaints, especially the doors. I have a service appt for my cover as well, getting some weird noises on closing.
It would make sense that the rubber seals are just too deep so it is more effort to compress them ... which keeps the sound and elements out. No doubt it could be fine tuned since other manufacturers (even high end quiet luxury cars, etc) do it. Of course, you could always use the normal line to someone slamming your door ... what is that an old farm truck ... but flip it and say slam it like an old work farm truck :)
Also with the doors, if the sensor/switch that monitors the door status ever broke, you could not drive even if the doors are properly closed. They might not broke too often or never but thats an unneeded "safety" feature that might leave you standed if it does.
Automotive tech here. Yes it is very annoying. The new vws let you drive it with the door open...for a few secs before it hits the electronic ebrake. Chest hit the wheel at 8mph.
It’s unfortunate you've run into these minor issues, they are here to help fix your issues. Your feedback is very helpful. Call your local Rivian service center or your Rivian Guide and I’m sure they will be able to help you out.
@@Redirthgink : correct there needs to be a way to Opt out of this computer generated problem ( with the signing of a disclaimer maybe ? ) LOL
Love how you reviewed this truck, everything you did with the review seemed as least biased as possible. One thing I don’t like is how far into innovation we are as a species yet we forget some simple things that are quality of life changes. They seem minor but when your using something everyday it can add up to more than minor when your exposed to the annoyance every day
Darn it. Even with the inconveniences, I still want the Rivian R1T so bad! Great vid!
Been subscribed to this channel for years. I had no idea he also had a wheelchair company.
Its insane to me just how much work this man puts in. Giving us quality teardown videos, tech videos, the EV hummer building, maintaining a whole family, and running a business on top of it all. With how long it takes to make videos alone, i dont know how you do it.
Thank you!
I honestly find it kind of insane how car manufacturers can put nearly a dusin camera`s on a vehicle, and NOT have them record as dashcams all the time. How can they miss such an obvious potential use case for all the camera`s...
You DO know that all this video footage has to be stored somewhere? And always running electrical equipment siphons energy from your "main propellant" so to speak.
They are likely recording, just not to an accessible file system. The footage will be there if someone sues them and they need to "find" it, you know, just in case.
@@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 At the bare minimum they literally only need to store 30 sec of footage prior to impact.
@@man_eating_monkey My only concern is the read/write usage for this storage, especially if we're doing 4k video on 6+ cameras, and I would hope they would make replacing the storage with standard drives down the line easy in 10+ years.
Tesla had an issue with this during their first model S years, until they upgraded, and now have you use your own storage devices. That seems to be the best route to go.
Dusin? Really?
I would like to add, it would be super neat to see trip odometer readings align with total kw/hrs spent and total kw/hrs regenerated (for up hill and down hills separately). Also would be neat to have much greater draw for the power outlets to use as a work truck and home power bank.
Hey @JerryRigEverything im a cnc machinest working in Ontario and RIGHT NOW ! were making the rivian Frunk (front trunk) and its very deep and sort of wide . i find it cool that i get to make cars you drive today
Good review! I’d classify 2 of the “minor” issues as possible show stoppers unless there’s reasonable work arounds: truck won’t move if a door is open (you could be stranded if a door closed sensor fails). Constant ride height adjustment at stops would really be annoying. - also $1000 deductible is ridiculous (mine’s) $100.
Not only that, but lets say you are in a life and death situation and are trying to drive away from someone, but they open the door, well now you are stuck and can't get away. That's just an incredibly dumb feature. Like maybe just have a warning instead of that, though an over the air update could probably fix it. At least you should have the option.
There are door locks.
@@justbecause9645 So lets say you are dropping someone off, and someone else jumps in your car to rob you as they are getting out. Well, sucks for you, you are stuck there. No chance at attempting to pull away before they get all the way in.
It's just an incredibly dumb feature.
You wouldn't be stranded as long as you have a paper clip. These types of sensors are commonly faulty, and you can bypass them by just connecting the pins that detect it, thus keeping the loop always connected.
@@Adierit unacceptable
What?! You're not supposed to actually use the truck for anything! Great seeing the in action footage.
Really? I had a 4x4 long box and used it for everything, including feeding cattle. Lived 5 miles at the end of a 3 mile long dirt road that turned to mud in the Spring. Had to chain all 4 wheels to get in and out of there. Those were the days- lotsa fun! I have a VERY powerful stereo system. I'd turn it all the way up and go outside to swim in my irrigation pond, which was fed from a spring that came out of the ground right there. An electric pump and a long irrigation pipe at the source and about 8 feet down, fed the spring water to a cistern on the hill behind my house.
@@johnhanek167 He was sarcastic
@@AutumnWind92 John Hanek lives downtown Alabama by the sounds of it lol
dont use your truck for truck stuff 😅
@@lawn-n-orderlandscaping1389 Right? What truck lol
Try closing the doors with a window open a bit, see if it's a back pressure issue. Many vehicles have cabins with pressure relief baffles, maybe Rivian didn't design it properly for door closing.
Hey Jerry a few things about your concerns that might be helpful for you.
1. The dash board, the left button on the left side of the steering wheel, if you hold it it will go to other features that'll pop up on the left side of the instrument panel.
2. The door not shutting with a soft close is due to the new seals to make it more tightly secure againt the wind noise etc.
3. About the adjusting while at a stop light, it's auto leveling itself. While driving the vehicle, let's say you have it in standard mode it will lower to a low setting to help you gain more miles for your trip. When stopping auto adjust back to your setting of standard mode.
4. Your Tonneau Cover does need a calibration done so It can close properly. It happens at times that it will get out of calibration do to possible objects in the way etc. This can be at any Rivian Service Center and they'll be happy to help!
I like that you do honest reviews. You don't hide any flaws like some people that have brand loyalty.
Example?
Good to see your review also covered pulling trailers, horse trailers in particular. Gives a more realistic approach than just what it can load in the back. Thanks
That Huel curry looked nice too!
The way that Huel ad fits in the video is ingenious. Congratulations 😎
EV-towing range is a huge difference between petrol. There are not enough charging stations overall and the range just isn't far enough; like the cell-phone grid 15 years ago. Granted, that trailer would cut fuel range in half in a lot of trucks too, but that distance is still further than the half you get with an EV.
This is why I want to push for more plug-in hybrids until battery tech gets better. Having both an electric drivetrain for shorter routes, and a petrol drivetrain for longer drives would provide the benefits of both. And most people don't do much long distance driving, so it would still have HUGE benefits to reducing gas consumption.
@@ACanadianDude true but carrying a heavy engine, transmission, and other parts you won't use 90% of the time means it will use more electricity and perform worse than a normal EV. So it would only be worth it if you take road trips like every week.
The doors not fully closing and requiring too much force happened to me when I bought my Tesla. Turns out that they just needed to be broken in. I don’t carry rear passengers often and those doors took longer to break in - but the front doors became loose after 1K miles.
Thanks for the video and glad to see you’re not babying the thing and really using it. Things are meant to be used! 👍🏼
Yea true, my Model 3 had the same issues especially the back doors cause they are used the least, the drivers door is super easy now.
@@Johnny2Feathers yea for sure. 👍
Hahahahahah you spend so much money and the doors dont work. Even shit chinese cars manage to do simple things like that. hahahaha People still defend these ev manufacturers
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi Troll alert! I don’t think most people defend the manufacturers but instead defend the concept of switching from gas to electric. We are still in the early-adopters phase. Someone’s gotta start the switch for it to gain momentum, we can’t just be waiting for the quality to improve before jumping in. There are always bugs at these early stages of the product. These Silicon Valley EV manufacturers don’t have the 100 years of manufacturing history and expertise behind them so it’s understandable (now that Ford and GM etc. are also entering the market, their products should have better quality but are generally less innovative). But generally, I agree - at least Tesla has been around for a while now, they shouldn’t have production defects like we are still encountering. But their demand is so high that they don’t have any incentive to fix things and are selling as-is - people are waiting 2 years to get their product. They’re expanding as fast as they can. Once their demand slows down - in other words, they’ve exhausted early adopter market segment, then they’ll be forced to make changes.
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi things settle and behave differently when brand new versus broken in, that's just how different materials work. I'd rather things be a bit too stiff at first, if it means designers took that into consideration and made it so it'll age well.
Jerry you are a legend!
Thank you for your videos, me as a geek really enjoy every of them 👍
Thank you!
@@JerryRigEverything and I am very happy you replied to me 😱👍
I just told it to my older son and he is very happy about that. He also follows you and watches your videos regulary
@@zdravo4 his name is Zack by the way
"happy wife, happy life"
Yup, Zac is officially accustomed to married life.
I’m 2 years in and still learning lol
Yeah but wtf is a mechanical horse though?
@@victor9 I'd imagine that to be an engine
@@victor9 an actual mechanical horse
Meeting this guy is one of my favorite memories. Always inspiring to see how this channel has evolved over years. 👍
Damn, easily moved!
You meet Jesus?
The problems start at 8:00 for those wanting to cut to the chase. 12:25 to be more specific in what broke.
Yeah... also feels like he isn't talking naturally. For me it sounds like he is trying to hard to sound cool and it's a bit annoying after a while.
@@PreachingChief He's always talked like that, at least on video. I've stopped noticing over the years, but I agree it's unusual and sounds affected. Hard to know if he's always been like that or it's something he developed as part of his video brand (which one has to admit has been very successful - he's obviously a competent chap).
@@xxwookey I only noticed it recently... and it's driving me up the wall haha
@@PreachingChief Ha Ha, thanks for the laugh bro. I thought I was the only one that felt that way. I like his content, but don't really watch too many of his videos because of the way he talks.
He talks like a voice over. It’s really odd. Almost like a comedy scetch. Like the polar opposite of Bjørn Nyland
The air suspension adjusting at stop lights is common for any car fitted with it. My Cayenne Turbo does it even though Porsche has been using air suspension for over 15 years now. These cars are constantly adjusting themselves over time depending on road conditions, pitch, roll, and speed of the vehicle for optimal driving.
If they would pause the adjustments when the truck is not moving, and resume them when it is, I think most wouldn't notice it at all, as they would blend into the roads own bumps while driving.
My LR4 does the same. Whatever reason it does it, it seems to be either desirable to do for optimal safety/performance, or unavoidable, perhaps due to stopping on an uneven surface and the shocks adjusting for it.
Same goes to buses
it's by design, it adjusts so you can have the best traction considering you're not moving so you use less breaks, and have less chance of slippage when you start moving again, not something you could really change.
The inability to drive with the doors open is an issue with most newer vehicles that don't have an actual transmission shift cable. It's extremely frustrating as a mechanic
If that was the case for me 12 years ago I would of gotten probably beaten to death and robbed. I had saw two acquaintances walking down the road and I was with my buddy and we stopped cause they waved me down, they were extremely high on drugs and said hey come to this party, and then they opened my door and tried to pull me out of my fucking car. Luckily I was driving a 1987 BMW 325i with a 5 speed, so I revved it up to 5k rpms and dumped the clutch and dragged one of the motherfuckers 100 yards down the road cause his arm got caught in my seatbelt. Motherfuckers. The future fucking sucks.
That's a thing? Not just an annoying beep, but the vehicle actually won't move? Good lord.
My Tacoma, with a manual transmission and hand-operated parking brake, will protest over a couple mph, but you can absolutely move it in the driveway, in the garage, etc. with the door open. So if a door switch fails the right way, the vehicle is stranded? Nice.
Oh for sure. I hate those electronic shifters. Was a BMW tech for 16 years. They'd just put it back into park if the door was open and it moved. GREAT on the transmission.
It's a pain ,I hated it in my 21' F-150,however, leave seatbelt on,or put in drive with door already open, it'll let you then ,not ideal,but still workable.
@@rattlecanpaint mercedes also.
5:55 - ALWAYS add glass coverage to your auto insurance especially if you have a newer vehicle where the windshield is over $1000. Glass coverage is a few dollars extra a month on your car insurance. Worth it!
It wouldve been more surprising if a startup auto manufacturer's first attempt at a production vehicle didn't have any problems after 1500 miles. Heck of a truck.
Not being able to drive when the door(s) open is kind of a major issue. Particularly if the truck got hit or something and the door broke then you're just stranded there because Rivian wouldn't let you drive.
Driving with considerably low level of noise in the nature is cool.
That's the problem when we allow machines to think for us God knows society is ignorant enough already.
in my country all (new) vehicles stop after 5 mins or so if the door is open
@@KShauryaDwivedi Stupid engineers and even more stupid politicians.
Yeah, and what if the truck has ice caked up around the door jam and you're not strong enough for whatever reason to close it
Tires hitting dirt and gravel are as noisy as a mufflered motor!
Love this video, the edition, the honesty, the car, everything! Thank you for making it.
dude you have the perfect voice for what you do ,very informative and clear videos keep up the great work!,
Excellent consumer advice piece. This is the kind of reviews of cars we really need.
Not top gears "can it do 0-60" or drift round a bend etc Good stuff.
If you want a car to do that, buy a race car to screw around with. This is a truck not a drag race car.
@@rodneyhoehsle7728 the r1t is faster than a performance model y 0-60 in 3 seconds, in the last update they added a drifting mode its the best feature ever
Side by side comparison, rivean and your old humv from cost and everything would be amazing
Your truck isn't the only one that won't let you drive with a door open.
I am an ASE certified mechanic and I have to have the doors open while moving from time to time and it sucks. Chrysler, bmw,mercadies , and such all set the electric ebrake when a door opens.
and Anton Yelchin's tragic accident is a good reminder of why it is important
@@Enemji More like it was a good reminder how stupid Chrysler/Jeep were to not have the gear shift light up to show you what gear its in.
Your right. That's why they have such safety features. Not sure about a manual jeep.....
But either way, that did did make what seems like an incompetent mistake that took his life. Very sad.
You have such a calm reviewing voice! Thank you for the honest review!
The Roadster, Tesla’s first available vehicle cost $109,000 upon release, not $250,000 as Zack stated. The point is correct though. They started off selling more expensive vehicles to finance the operation.
@@Johnny2Feathers yeah one of the new roadsters goes for $250K
100k in 2017 and they're not even in production yet...
“1,500 miles is quite a lot. . . .”
Toyota at 250,000 miles: huh?
Nice review. I'm relatively old-school electric with my 10 year old Nissan Leaf and luckily nothing has broken on it and I'm still on the original batteries because I have babied it (garaged and never left it fully charged for too long).
its amazing that nissan blew their lead they were so ahead of the curve. they could have dominated like tesla. just boggles the mind.
@@ehlava Tesla is only profitable due to tax credits. The don't actually turn a profit from selling cars.
@@Cheepchipsable and they dominate. the cars are fantastic, can't wait for some good competitors to emerge... getting close.
Try a little experiment with regard to the door closing issue. Just open a window on each side of the truck and try to close the doors again. If the doors close easier with the windows open a bit, its an interior venting issue. Most cars have hidden vents built into the interior to prevent air from getting trapped inside and compressing when closing the doors. The compressed air will try to rebound the doors back open. If the venting is insufficient, it can cause that difficult door closing issue.
Thats a very good point actually. In the persuit of soundproofing, they may have made an electric submarine/oxygen tank 😂
Crazy, I was just wheeling on some of my favorite roads in the northern Sierra (TNF/BLM) and came across a couple whose Rivian was DOA. He said that they had plenty of range and everything seemed to be working normal and then....nothing. No dash lights, power...nothing. He said he had another issue with id a few weeks back and the dealer fixed it. Lucky for them they were on a decent fire road that a tow truck could navigate. Shit, I had no idea what the hell I was even looking at; never seen one. I saw the thumbnail for this video and realized that was what It was. I had to chuckle because I'm 32 years and 263,000 miles into my Toyota 4x4 with "0" issues and it's never left me stranded.
Yep, awesome Toyota. Mine is a 01 Tundra with 373,000 & with lots of normal wear out repairs, it is still running strong.
I bet that JerryRigEverything clear knife could make short work of that foot of bed blockage.
lol... I think he just needs a sharper knife or something to get that opened 😂
Glass scratches at a leve 6
My Odyssey won't let me drive with the door open and it is very annoying! Like your Humvee, are you noticing better traction with the extra weight, or does it just crumble the Earth?
Ram trucks do this too you can't shift out of park with the door open
@@michaellahey2690 At least Ram offers an override for that feature in the settings menu.
@@Furious321 and that's the way it should be done. I have a lot of gripes with RAM but that override is absolutely the best solution. Lockout at first but let me override it for when I need a door open for some reason
@@Furious321 I wasn't aware of that it's not my truck just one I use at work ill have to look into that
@@Its-Just-Zip It would make sense if it was a temporary override thing (until shut off as an example). No doubt, there were injuries (carelessness) that caused this safety feature on most cars.
I heard that the reason the tonneau cover fails is because its powered by one motor on one side. I believe they are going to add a second motor on the other side to so that the cover moves evenly and with move power.
hopefully its covered under warranty or a recall
Now both motors can fail at the same time, costing even more money, and more than likely creating more damages...
Or go for a "retro" optional version with a manual cover. Less hassle, less fails. Not everything needs to be automated, esp. if accessing the motor is an issue. If a chunk of carboard is lodged in there, it should not require a visit to a shop to remove, as a truck is highly likely to accumulate stuff in its innards if the flatbed is being regularly used. At the very least a simple access port should be there.
That's the same issue people have with standing desks. The one motor desks tend to fail quickly, with a 2nd motor they run more efficiently, and will last much longer.
@@joejones6968 2 motors will require less than half the torque.
Rivian: Well umm... your hummer broke down in like 5 miles... so there!
Lol. Very very true
I don't know what kind of tech you've got in that voice box, dude, but let me tell you, the bass is full, the mids are punchy, and the treb is crystal clear!
lol, thank you!
This is just personal preference, but my only real complaints with EVs is the electronic EVERYTHING.
I want a truck with mechanical doors, windows, latches, locks, tailgate, etc; but I'm probably the only one.
I also don't buy new... so I'm perfectly happy with my old Dodge until I can electrify the chassis! :3
Same here. If there are more than 3 buttons, they'd better be on the radio.. And I'm a big computer geek lol
Out with the old, in with the new.
@@cyrusadamrevilla3851 The new will fill the future by default. It isn't automatically improved simply because it is new.
The old, on the other hand, isn't worse just because it's aged. It also isn't necessarily better just because it has stood the test of time.
What matters is if it can continue to work in the present and future, old or new. My truck has, with minimal maintenance. And, barring catastrophic failure, it likely will be long after I'm gone.
...as long as it's next owners keep maintaining it. :3
I hate those door handles, they aren't very ergonomic.
Electric tailgates should have a manual option. I find myself waiting for them to open/close a lot of the time.
You would think in order to increase the range, anything that didn't need to be electric wouldn't, but I think using wires instead of cables and rods makes the car cheaper to build, even though the mechanical is probably more reliable in the long run.
@@Cheepchipsable I agree. I won't trust any vehicle that will be inoperable (and unescapable) in the event of electrical failure.
Even if every system in an old car dies, you can still open the doors. An electrical fire could trap you in a modern EV you could otherwise escape with a simple mechanical lever. O~O
the door thing is a deal breaker. That is a big safety issue. There can be times you need to move the vehicle with the door open emergencies happen. Or situations like an attack/ car jacking this vehicle will be a tomb for you. Also this feature will prevent any medical/fire or law enforcement from adopting it as they regularlly need the doors to open while driving
Eh. It’s just a software update if needed
My 2017 Ram 1500 won't let me drive with the the door open
@@notspm9157 Agreed. All modern vehicles need an emergency override that will disable all of the safety festures, but also put the vehicle in limp mode to prevent overuse.
@@notspm9157 exactly if that sensor fails you are fucked. What happens after normal wear and tear? will that door sensor work after someone has put 60,000miles on it or over 100k or owned it for 3t0 5 yrs. What if you get into a tiny fender bender accident? or some dingus dings your door in a parking lot? are you just fucked ? These people making cars dont think when they design shit
@@17jdub You can overwrite it.
Zac: stops at a redlight
Rivian: *discombobulate*
Lol. For real.
this was such a good video and the thing that broke was actually a very important part so this wasn’t clickbait.
Zack is part of the very small percentage of pickup truck drivers that actually use their trucks properly
What makes you say that? How do you know how truck owners use their trucks?
@@illuminatedpatriot9347 I feel like he's talking about people who use their truck like a civic
I live in Brazil of all places and I know more than one dumbass who bought pickup trucks as a showoff instead of a workhorse, it's so stupid on so many levels I became entertained by them waiting on transit with only one person inside like abunch of idiots.
Do you use your sports car properly?
@@illuminatedpatriot9347 lol if someone has a sports car and never accelerates fast or never drives faster than 60mph then yea they aren't using their sports car properly.
Like another commenter said, it's like buying a pair of hiking boots only to wear inside as a pair of slippers.
Believe it or not but things are designed for a purpose, if you have a truck but you only ever drive it as a Honda civic, it's totally fair for people to question you.
Nobody would think it's normal for someone who works in an office to daily drive a dump truck to and from home, because that isn't what it's designed for.
More than likely has something in the track. I'm sure they have a load limiter on the cover. One reason I didn't put an auto cover on my F150. Get the lightning will have all the cluster info you'll need. Nice truck first editions are not always thought out perfect.
The bonus is not pumping exhaust fumes into your horses' lungs while towing behind your Rivian!
Nice video--informative and, as I am sure you hear a lot, your voice is oddly calming and is a welcome change from so many other hosts out there that seem to use volume and manic manicness to get their points across. Thanks for taking the time to make this!
Sound proofing materials should add weight to the door and that should help in closing. I suspect that the closing issue has to do with the new door seals. Try opening the widow, any window, a bit to allow the air to get out when closing the door. Unless opening a window is like opening the door and the truck will not move. There should be an interlock in the seat that senses the driver in the seat so opening the door will not stop the vehicle from moving. Whomever came up with that is a safety weenie.
Adding weight means reducing battery, even 1lb and the company would be like, nah...
Is it a first-generation vehicle? It seems reasonable that it would have some minor issues or fixes needed. The motors, battery, drivetrain, range, power, etc are all good.
No, it's been out for decades. It's not a first gen vehicle. LOL. Living under a rock?
@@littlejackalo5326 the company has only been around for 13 years… it’s an early production vehicle
@@littlejackalo5326 No the vehicle hasn't been out for decades. They just started production last year (barely been in production mode for 8 months). Where are you getting your information from? It's woefully incorrect.
Each issue pretty consistent with other reviews I've seen on youtube. Sure hope they get software updates out for the dashcam while driving and the overly minimal dashboard display. Minimal is good, but as with all things too much of a good thing is bad; balance is always best. Both should be a no-brainer for them, we'll see if they're listening... Hopefully the dashcam things isn't due to a lack of storage for the videos (and no USB port for external storage if necessary).
I LOVE your videos and live vicariously through you. I endeavor to install solar panels and a battery system at our vacation house - I closely watched those videos. I also endeavor to buy a Rivian just as soon as I can get my wife to agree (as you said, happy wife; happy life).
Good info on the doors, tonneau cover, etc. Maybe in the next video you can discuss any issues with charging? Logistics? Time? L2 vs. L3? etc.
BTW, it seems like a bit of Karma (not Fisker) that you took a rock to the windshield. Around 14:44 in the video it shows a number of rocks on the running board of your horse trailer just waiting to fly off the trailer, ping off the road, and impact on someone’s windshield. A quick dusting with a whisk broom would have alleviated this situation… ;-)
Thanks!
for the doors that are hard to close.... try cracking a window next time... sometimes is just about good seals and pressure in the cabin can not escape fast enough 🙂
Absolutely right, some car manufacturers fixed similar issues in exactly the same way, automatically lowering the passenger window a little. Maybe rivian can also fix this with an update.
Meh. Every car I’ve had didn’t need to open the windows to let the cabin pressure out when you close the doors, in order to fully close the doors properly with a normal amount of force.
As for the range being reduce when towing a trailer, why don't they make a trailer with a built-in battery, included in a strong floor that could be plug in parallel to the one in the truck, could be switch on or off and be recharge on its own.
Been advocating for an EV friendly trailer that also uses regen brakes to help further recharge the main vehicle's batteries (not sure how complex that might be) or the trailer have batteries that the trailer's regen brakes will charge up to then feed into the vehicle. I'd rather the regen brake only as that will shave off the weight of the batteries on the trailer.
I think not having one 240V outlet is a huge oversight on their side, and a huge flaw. firstly, you cannot charge another car in a pinch (offroad). secondly, it's an eletric car - you should have access to all of it's power, it's stupid to need to haul a generator (for some specific purpose).
It looked like the cardboard was moving when you opened the cover on your rear gate, so it was pretty tight. Could a piece have gotten pulled back inside with the cover and be causing the issue?
I've seen a few of these with the bed cover broken. Pretty sure it was an under powered motor that fails.
@@spammerscammer plastic gears.......
@@hdj81Vlimited ew - really (I honestly don't know)? Who puts plastic gears on a high torque high-use mech?
@@mgabrysSF you seen the inside of the majority of power tools nowadays? Nylon gears are everywhere (though mostly in the lower cost brackets). The higher end stuff does usually use sintered metal gears though.
@@Estok8805 Indeed - but with modern milling and fabrication machines this shouldn't be an issue outside of weight and replacement.
Nice! My wife has a catering business and they use a Tacoma to haul around their equipment and it's used more of an urban utility and not so much off road. Though it can! I'm also looking forward to the Cybertruck. Either way, it'll be interesting to see all the new workhorses in action.
Thanks for making the video!
And using a van for that is too unamerican?
@@NGC1433 what does that have to do with it?
This is an EXCELLENT review! I dislike reviews when a person has had just one week of ownership. To me, you're still on the honeymoon with the vehicle. What you shared means a lot plus your overall knowledge (and your apparent family's) of EV's. It also looks like your wife's mechanical horse is being fed premium hay. As others have commented, it's great to see you use your truck instead of just having it as a show piece. I'm impressed that the truck calculates your towing ability and continues to adjust it. I would find the constant auto adjustment of the suspension annoying to say the least. Lastly, I feel like you OWN this review of the Rivian. There are certain cars/trucks that people review extremely well. Zack is synonymous with Rivian.
Every motoring journalist have a typical one off review that discuss ergonomics, drivability, build quality and ride and comfort. Then later they have the long term review on every model they had reviewed, but these comes too few and far in between.
Remember when you regenerate power going downhill you can only recover a portion of the energy, about 20% max. This is a benefit but a lot of people think it's all the power. If you fed that much power back into a battery, you'd still lose a lot through resistance but you'd light the battery on fire doing it.
regenerative braking is closer to 70% efficient, unless you also use normal brakes at the same time. if it was 20% EV motors would overheat. energy doesnt just disappear.
Jere, he never said anything about 'efficiency'. The truth is that he is right, it is strictly an engineering design call: The circuits, the battery, the coolant, etc. can't handle the full power backfeed from possibly 10,000 lbs of truck and load going downhill in full regen mode. So, the 20% is a safe place to stay without overloading the system... (And, since I am an engineer, with my own EV, and have seen these exact numbers, I agree with Dave.)
I feel like doors shutting is a pretty important part of driving a vehicle. Everyone of your “mild inconveniences” is a deal breaker for a $70,000 vehicle. Also Tesla was offering a one of a kind unique sports car to start. Rivian is making a (obviously) flawed everyday pickup. That puts you in the market as other trucks that don’t have the same annoyances for less money. My opinion though, that’s why they make multiple vehicles so we don’t have to drive the same thing if we don’t want. 🤷🏼♂️
The doors would be easy to solve if they were "ported" with a simple one way valve.
Well there also aren’t really much in the way of options for an electric truck. I feel like at this point it’s a novelty item, maybe after a few years it will become a more common vehicle but for now I wouldn’t plan on using one for a go to pickup truck
The viability of Rivian is in serious doubt.
$70k for a truck that runs on batteries?
I'll bet a new set of those is not going to be cheap.
Not worth the financial risk if this thing goes to junk.
And the clown car styling needs an upgrade, not that any sane person would want one anyways.
@@JoeGator23 this truck costs $70k+ because it's an EV, ICE versions of this wouldn't sell for more than $45k in the highest trim level.
I would definitely be interested in seeing you do an all day/overlanding trip in this truck as it is electric, I would like to see how range is out in the wilderness. Interesting to see people actually taking these trucks that we tested off the highways, where they are supposed to go
Maybe if you tow a diesel generator behind it.
This guy is a true truck owner thank you for this honest review.
A true truck owner lol. I bet you're a true judge of who makes that true owner list!
It’s funny,I watched a different review on the Rivian and the guy made a comment about how small the gap was between the cover and the truck bed, he mentioned it probably won’t be long before some debri gets caught in there! Definitely something they need to change!
This is proof I will keep my 13 3.5 ecoboost- at 380,000 miles it’s a beast… never had a single issues until 180k when the throttle body gave up. I will say I have seen the rivian and sat in it I like it a lot… but wouldn’t consider it for the price, lack of long term reliability, and I can say the towing mileage kills me. I like to tow my camper with my atv on the back of our truck. And I can go from NC to NY or Florida and only stop once. They are nice- I would like a rivian or lightning for my wife and for the days that we don’t need my truck but not for $10,000+
Parker, ten thousand sounds like a great price.
You mean an extra 10k, above ICE truck price??
@@teemcshanney8910 he meant $100,000+ sticker price. he missed a 0
So the environment is not important to you? Adding a Turbo isn't "Eco" ... adding a Turbo also reduces reliability.
@@robainscough Right, hes at 380,000 miles and hasnt replaced it. What happens if you buy a Rivian and they go out of business?
"aerodynamic hitch cover" LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry to hear your toy truck broke there kiddo, get ya a real one.
Aerodynamics is actually super cool stuff. You should check it out.
Right? He drives a literal box ... but AeRoDyNaMiC's bro!!! LOL
@@danzitto7742 that's the thing. Its not a box. The rivian has a better drag coefficient than a Lamborghini. It really is cool stuff.
your soundrecording skills are great :D
You use your rivian much like most of us do where I love including me with my antiquated dodge which is not only old enough to vote, but buy its own hard liquor as well.
The two things you are missing on it are a brush guard , which helps protect your truck.
And a winch, because if you bottom out and stick that baby you gonna really needed that too got your self out of a jam.
I have both on mine.
I wouldn't expect the price of this truck to come down over time. Its priced in the luxury vehicle range. Rivian may come out with a more base model truck or smaller truck that's cheaper. I also wouldn't consider this truck to be in the "technology" category like consumer electronics (TVs, DVD players, Drones, etc) where the price for a similar product drastically comes down over time.
its for people who want a truck but dont need a truck.
@@lawn-n-orderlandscaping1389 or people like myself who use a truck and are willing to sacrifice size just so I never have to walk into a dealership for service again.
The doors may need vents so the air doesn’t cause resistance to the door seal while closing.
I could be wrong, but, I’m pretty sure all cars made since the 90’s typically contain baffles for this very reason. Car manufacturers realized that making a quieter cabin meant that they would have more of an air tight space. So they incorporate baffles, usually behind the cabin and under some panel that you’d likely never touch, like plastic body panels or quarter panel. They likely just need to modify how it passes sudden air flow. I have the same issue on a 2022 Elantra. I think it’s just the stiffness in the rubber they use or poor location. Such as in the trunk area.
or simply add soft close to all the doors. The entire car cover and rear door is automatic so its odd Rivian havnet made all the doors soft close this would solve the issue and still maintain a tight seal around the doors
yes and is pretty easy to test, just keep 1 door open while you closing 1
does that really make sense to you ?
Thank you for calling a truck a tool and supposed to get dirty. I put my '07 F150 through a lot of work and she rips and I can't stand seeing all these big trucks looking spotless and untouched by anything other than pavement lol
A full trip through spanish fork canyon and back is no joke. Beautiful shots up what seemed to be skyline as well.
Hey first time here. Love the video, for your door close issue try cracking the windows just a little bit. I feel it has to do with how tightly they seal up. Kenworth semis are the same way. Just a guess to try.
Yep, all that trapped air pressure doesn't help.
@@misterb1132 exactly it. Like trying to force a sleeping bag back into a carry case lolol
You have good valid points in there, I hope Rivian engineers are watching and rectify those issues. Cheers!
The charge time or range just needs to get better for real people who depend on vehicles. I am a roofer and work in the south. In the event of a hurricane EVERYONE depends on gasoline to successfully continue working. I would love an electric truck (especially the cyber truck 😏) but it's simply not yet realistic 😔