I'm Brazilian, and we speak Brazilian Portuguese here. They came to shoot in Rio de Janeiro, which caused a lot of excitement, as everyone was talking about a Marvel movie being filmed in our country. They were very cautious, especially with the language aspect, which is usually dubbed into English or features actors speaking English. However, they took care and invited some Brazilian actors to appear in the film.
Well, despite the effort being appreciated, I'd say "very cautious" is giving them too much credit. They tried to have the actors that were supposed to be locals in the story speak PT-BR, but most don't sound like native speakers at all and have weirdly constructed lines that clearly are just direct translations of English lines, apart, of course, from the ones that are actual Brazilians, like the pretty factory girl (portrayed by Débora Nascimento) and the martial arts trainer (which isn't an actual actor, but was portrayed by the real martial artist Rickson Gracie). It would've been better (and probably not even expensive, at least at the time) to just hire an entire Brazilian cast for that part of the movie (they'd need, what, about 4 more of them to cover the ones that actually have lines?), but it is what it is -- it's already a surprise that they bothered to have some at all back in 2008, when I think most studios really didn't care in the slightest about this type of stuff, but again, "very cautious" is giving too much credit imo.
@@courtenaymckee7491 yup, they filmed at U of T and downtown Toronto. I was working one night downtown when they were filming the final fight scene but one of my co-wokers got to check out the film site that night.
This movie was the epitome of Stan Lee’s vision of the Hulk. Like Frankenstein’s Monster, he was never evil. He has a good heart. But it’s the people that constantly come and attack him that makes him go out of control.
The Hulk was never any more "evil" than a wild animal that's been backed into a corner. He is rage manifest, but it comes from a place of fear and survival instinct.
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No he's not... Why was he scared he was going to Hulk out with his girlfriend if he is "rage manifest"... He Hulks out when his heart rate is too high. It literally doesn't matter what he's doing...
the saying 'Don't make me angry' is from the old T.V. show from the 70's. So was the security guard that got the free medium pizza, that was Lou Ferrigno, he played the hulk on that show. Great reaction hope you enjoy the rest of the movies. All of the origin story ones are fantastic
1) The person who drank the infected drink with Stan Lee. Watch for his cameos. 2) The security guard who took the pizza was Lou Ferrigno, who played the Hulk (but not Bruce Banner) in the '70s TV show. 3) They have some serum that is in short supply, but it's not results as the Hulk. There's more I want to write, but I'm not going to give away spoilers. 😅
Fun fact: Medium pizza security guy is the original live action Hulk during the time of no CGI, bodybuilder Lou Ferrigno. They would film him shirtless and paint him green with a wig and bushy eyebrows. 😁 Another awesome react video. Love how you are more into understanding the lore and the characters. Can't wait for the next one! Also, Mass Effect piano music is 💜
No one in the comments has shared this yet, so I will. Fun fact: In the beginning of the film Ed Norton is seen doing some breathing techniques with an individual, learning to control his emotions. It's only fitting that they are in Brazil, because that individual is Rickson Gracie, a member of the Gracie family, who are from Brazil. The Gracie family is actually world renowned - for having invented Brazilian Jujitsu, a very common martial art especially within MMA.
Great reaction. A little note for you. Suggestion really. Keep this in mind: Serum injection, exposure to Gamma Rays, and Personality traits. Just keep those 3 things in mind. I'm not going to spoil anything for you in future movies. But those 3 things come up again. When they do, then I'll comment on them. Then you'll understand why. They will literally be "now I get it" moments. I hope you are enjoying your MCU journey so far. Can't wait til your next reaction.
0:53 Ed Norton is my fave Bruce Banner/Hulk, his acting chops speak for themselves, was sad when he wasn’t cast for further MCU films, from memory was cause he clashed with the director and Kevin Feige over the writing/direction of the Hulk in the movie so he left MCU due to creative differences & they got Ruffalo instead. 4:10 It’s Portuguese but Brazilian dialect/accent rather than Original European one. 5:50 “Don’t make me angry, you wouldn’t like me when I’m angry” line was from The Incredible Hulk tv series from late 70s, the actor who played Dr David Banner, Bill Bixby says that line right before he turns into The Hulk played by Bodybuilder, Lou Ferrigno. Also the theme for the show is iconic too 👍🏽👍🏽. EDIT: Tv show changed Bruce Banners name to David for some reason, if I remember, I’ll edit comment. 21:52 Yeah, he does lol. Tim Roth is another awesome actor too 👍🏽.
The director loved working with Edward Norton, it was fiege and marvel Edward had an issue with, he didn’t want marvel and Kevin fiege to ruin the character, Louis Leterrier said he misses Edward in a recent podcast 😊
@@Chasejones2004 Leterrier also clashed with Norton, it was well documented. If it’s the podcast interview I’m thinking of from a year or so ago, Louis saying he loves Norton but also saying Norton not wanting to talk to him since making of the film as Ed didn’t even promote the Hulk movie says all you need to know how Ed feels about the whole situation.
The Ruffalo-Norton timeline: Director Louis Leterrier's first choice for this was apparently Ruffalo but he was unavailable. Marvel was excited at first to get Norton because he was also a creative type, a writer and director. The plan was for Norton to be Hulk in the Avengers. But he (apparently) clashed with the Marvel higher-ups and kept angling for more creative control on the Avengers film, which led to them parting ways. By that point, Ruffalo was available and he's been the Hulk ever since. Fun fact, Marvel has only replaced four main MCU actors (as opposed to the Marvel films produced by other studios). One was because an actor died, one because he was unavailable (I'll tell you when we get to those films) but the other two were because of disagreements: Norton as Hulk and Terrance Howard, who played Rhodey in Iron Man. When you do your Iron Man 2 reaction, you'll see Don Cheadle instead. Ruffalo and Cheadle are in for the long haul. One thing to note, try to remember the names and actors of the supporting characters from this film, because the characters from this film have the longest gaps between appearances. General Ross doesn't appear again for 14 movies...the rest don't appear again until after Endgame. This makes this film kind of an anomaly compared to other MCU projects. Fun fact since you mentioned you had already seen Thor: Ragnarok ... when Ruffalo makes his flying leap out of the spacecraft to become Hulk (but fails) that is a callback to Norton Hulk jumping out of the helicopter in this one. On the Iron Man end credit scene... when Iron Man ended up being a success, they signed Sam Jackson to a NINE-PICTURE DEAL based solely on that post-credit cameo. At the time that was an insane thought, but no one's laughing now!!
Hey Kali, something to understand about the superhero comics and it's ability to deliver an enhanced moral base for many males. ------ The ideologies in these stories lead men to care for the weak, protect society from bullies. ------- To self-sacrifice while being anonymous, and winning the heart of that unrequited love interest. ----- A Character's self sacrifice for a larger than life cause never gets old. ------- My ladies are now joining the party, but it's never too late to join the fandom.
Marvel originally wanted Mark Ruffalo for Hulk, but he was busy with another project and they got Norton. Norton was a diva and tried to control too much of the story, so they kicked him to the curb. By the time they had the Avengers movie ready to film, Ruffalo was available and we got the best version of the Hulk on film. Norton was trying to recreate the weaker TV show Hulk, but Marvel gave us the real power Hulk in the first Avengers movie.
Nick Fury was originally white in the comics. When Marvel rebooted their comics with the Ultimate universe, they drew Nick to resemble Sam Jackson. It was a wink and a nod to comic book fans when they cast Sam in the MCU.
The serum that General Ross was giving his guy is not what was in the Hulk. He needed the Hulk's blood for that ingredient. Two separate items. But now the Abomination has both.
Fun Easter egg: the drink the general is drinking in post credits is green because it's a cocktail named "Incredible Hulk" (equal parts hypnotic and Hennessey)
Details about the hulk you should know going forward. There was a 70s incredible hulk TV series the movie fugitive aspects took inspiration from while the two main stars of that series show up in this film. One was shown on the TV in Brazil and the other was the security guard who played the incredible hulk and was painted in green paint. There is also a hulk 2003 film which is not canon to the MCU but does provide details about the character and other aspects of the world of this character you should check out.
I just found this reaction and I am SO ready to watch you experience my favorite franchise of all time. I’m going to be sticking with you till the end and I can’t wait for the future of this series. This was a great reaction
About Samuel L Jackson: Marvel took a huge risk with him, as they basically signed him up for a whole slew of appearances, at a time when they didn't even know whether the "MCU" project would take off like they hoped. Edward Norton, on the other hand, only did this one Hulk appearance. He was silently replaced with a different actor in the movies to come. "Silently" meaning that there's no story or anything where Bruce Banner would need facial surgery or something like that; he just looks different the next time you see him.
This one is pretty underrated. It isn't the best of the MCU, but I really enjoy Norton's Bruce. Origin strories are good, but I like that they assume the audience is already familiar with Bruce's backstory...
As I’m sure others have stated through this thread, there are a number of nods and references to the classic TV Series “The Incredible Hulk”. The best of which is this moment at 12:55, with Banner bribing the guard with a pizza. The guard is played by Lou Ferrigno, who played The Hulk in all five seasons of the series, all three made-for-TV Movies in the late 80’s-early 90’s, and even voiced the Hulk for the 1996 Animated Series; as well as on the first two Avengers films.
I hope they bring back Edward Norton as a variant of the Hulk in Secret Wars, he was my favorite Hulk and Bruce Banner, and his chemistry with Liv Tyler was phenomenal ❤😊
I'll never get over how the show changed his name to David simply because the studio thought "Bruce" sounded "too gay," according to Stan Lee 💀 But I loved how that series truly delved into the psyche of Bruce "David" Banner and the Hulk, exploring their complex and tumultuous relationship. Highlighting Bruce's struggle with his identity and the emotional turmoil stemming from his dual existence.
The power of the Hulk is unimaginable. Notably, in very Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde fashion, in some incarnations, the Hulk famously comes out at night. Other moments, popularized especially in Al Ewing's Immortal Hulk, when Bruce is killed, at night, the Hulk rises up. He is virtually unstoppable in an innumerable amount of ways. Splendid reaction, Kali!
"Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry" was a line used in the 1st episode of the Hulk TV show starting Bill Bixby as David Bruce Banner and Lou Ferigno as the Hulk. Lou makes a cameo in this move as the security guard bribed with a pizza. The old man who drinks the tainted soda is Stan Lee, who was involved in the creation of many of these characters. Stan makes a cameo in almost every movie starring a Marvel comic book character even before the MCU movies. Look out for him in every film. There are end credit scenes in every MCU movie until.. no spoilers 😂😂 Some movies have more the one after credit scene.
Three things to watch for in every MCU movie: 1. Stan Lee cameo - the head of Marvel Comics for many, many years, creator of many of these characters. 2. End credit scenes - many of the movies will have more than one. 3. A scene where someone falls/jumps/ejects out of an aircraft. In Iron Man, the pilot ejects from the fighter plane when the mid-air collision with Iron Man breaks off a wing. In Hulk, Banner falls from the helicopter to try to transform into the Hulk. There will be more.
This movie was originally supposed to have an after credit scene, but it got cut because they decided it was too dark. It actually gets reference in The Avengers movie. I'm not sure how far ahead you watch these things and you have not published The Avengers yet so, as small of a spoiler as it would be, I'm not going to mention what it was in case you have not watched The Avengers yet.
My first exposure to the Hulk was as a boy in the 1970's/80's and watching the TV series. I loved watching that show. It was a little sad and I loved the late Bill Bixby as Bruce Banner. I know many people do not like it, but I also like the earlier film with Eric Bana as Bruce, Jennifer Connelly as Betty and Sam Elliott as General Ross. And Nick Nolte was Bruce's father.
"These are bad guys..." When I first read a Hulk comic, at the age (probably) of about six or seven, it confused me no end. The Hulk was the title character, so he was the hero, right? He was the good guy. So why were the army and the police and everyone else always attacking him? Why couldn't they see he was a superhero? Why was he fighting against them, crushing tanks and destroying buildings? It took me some time to appreciate the character fully. He's like a cross between Frankenstein's monster and Dr Jekyll/ Mr Hyde. When written properly, he can be one of the more complex Marvel characters, and all the more interesting for it. "You won't like me when I'm angry..." I'm sure the phrase must have existed beforehand, but it really entered the public consciousness and became a kind of catch-phrase when it was used by the Hulk in the 1970s TV show. You could bank on it being used at least once in every episode (or it seemed that way!) I guess it was a kind of meme, before memes even existed!
@@eq1373 A scene which was subsequently replayed during the opening credits sequence of EVERY episode back in the day before either VCRs or even widespread television remotes would even allow skipping those credits.
Hey Kali, I love your excitement at the twist and turns in the story line. ------ I grew up reading these comics and to see them come to live with an emphasis on the depth of character was amazing. -------- As a female you have to understand superhero movies are modern Greek tragedies with bitter sweet endings. ------- Which makes them much deeper than you expect.
From here on out, there's at least one credit scene, sometimes two. I think one of them down the road has four separate scenes. Glad you were able to add the scene from "Iron Man" to this one! I'm not giving any spoilers here, but part of what makes the MCU interesting going forward is all of the crossover. I'm pretty sure you already understand that. This movie had a little bit of this at the end with Tony showing up, and some references to SHIELD. Crossover generally increases as we go forward, so you have to pay attention. New people aside from the title characters are added. I think you already know it, but keep an eye out for Stan Lee! Also, two of the richest men in the US happen to have cameos in the next film. Everybody tends to recognize one of them, but nobody seems to catch the other, as he has a relatively low media profile, so I'll point him out now: Larry Ellison of Oracle, who I think gets to say "Hey, Tony!" early in the film, just before Stan's cameo. He's currently #5 in the US. It's kind of funny how you can have hundreds of billions of dollars, be a key figure in the tech industry for decades, be in a major film, and still fly under the radar!
As someone who used to watch the original series on TV, the reporter that gives the name Hulk in the interview (McGee) is the same name as the reporter in the original series that kept following Dr. Banner trying to expose him.
So the deal with Blonski is he got a version of the captain america syrum but its tainted, so it boosts aggression and violent tendencies. Bruce was an accident, you understand now that his blood is very dangerous. That's why they are after him, the Hulk is one of the most powerful creatures in that universe, infinite strength, the madder he gets the stronger he gets.
I really appreciate elements of this film, but it's far from my favorite take on the Hulk. I'm glad you enjoyed it, though! Personally, I feel like the depth of Hulk and Bruce Banner as a character really needs a whole TV series to be properly explored, which you just can't get across in a single film. Ang Lee's 2003 movie tried this, and in many ways, it was a cool, experimental film that stands out regardless of whether you think it's good or not. But for me, nothing comes close to the Hulk from the 1990s Incredible Hulk cartoon or Earth's Mightiest Heroes from 2010. Animated Hulk is just really well done, and that's partly thanks to animation being a lot cheaper than live action and the benefit of having a whole season to spread out storytelling across different story arcs. *MCU Origin:* In the MCU, we don’t get much of Hulk’s origin story, as the film skips over it. However, the basics are summed up in the opening sequence. The U.S. government and army were working on replicating the Super Soldier Serum (which is important moving forward) for decades but to no avail. Banner was pressured by General Ross to take part in the project. In the end, Banner uses a special primer and exposes himself to too much gamma radiation, causing the experiment to "fail" as he transforms into the Hulk, injuring both Betty Ross and her father. Mainline Comics (Earth-616) Origin: In the mainline comics, Bruce Banner’s origin involves a test on a new gamma bomb by the U.S. Army and General Ross at a nuclear test site. A teenager named Rick Jones wanders into the blast area, and Bruce tells his colleague Igor Starsky to stop the countdown. However, Igor, secretly a Soviet agent, does nothing, hoping Bruce would die in the explosion and the gamma project would be stopped. Bruce saves Rick by throwing him into a protective trench, but is hit by the gamma bomb himself, turning into the Hulk. This origin, introduced in Incredible Hulk #1 (1962), reflects the Cold War tensions of the 1960s something you'll notice across all Marvel comics during this time. The Fantastic Four, for instance, emphasized the optimism surrounding space travel, portraying astronauts as celebrity figures, much like how the public viewed them during the Space Race. Spider-Man reflected the social unrest of the era, with students protesting the Vietnam War and many of Peter Parker's classmates being drafted, with Peter himself facing that possibility. Meanwhile, The X-Men highlighted the themes of bigotry and racism that were prevalent during the time. *Ultimate Universe (Earth-1610) Origin:* The MCU draws a lot from the Ultimate Universe, a modernized continuity from the 2000s. In this version, Nick Fury gathers a think tank in the late 1980s to early 1990s to recreate the Super Soldier Serum. Bruce Banner is part of this group and experiments on himself with a version of the serum, only to turn into the Hulk, injuring several people before fleeing. Two of the think tank members, Mary and Richard Parker. Peter Parker's parents were among those wounded in the process. This origin is quite similar to what happens in the MCU film, Ultimate Universe loved to tie a lot of characters' origins to the Super Soldier Serum, with everyone and their mother trying to recreate it. Each attempt resulting in different side effects. It was a unique take meant to "ground" the reality of that universe. However, I prefer the individual uniqueness of the mainline comics, where characters’ origins are less connected to each other, allowing for more diverse and distinct backstories. There is a key difference to both the Mainline comics and the MCU: Ultimate Hulk has a much darker side, as he engages in cannibalism and often eats his victims. The Ultimate comics had a much edgier, grittier tone, which made certain elements hit or miss for a lot of readers, including myself. So I'm glad the MCU reflected more of the Mainline comics. *MCU Mixture:* The MCU is like a melting pot of mainline Marvel comics, the Ultimate Universe, and its own unique changes to characters, events, and places. For the Hulk, the MCU blends elements from both the gamma radiation and General Ross aspects of the mainline comics with the Super Soldier Serum program from the Ultimate Universe. Personally, I like both origin stories. The gamma bomb incident is heroic and a cool concept, while connecting the Hulk to the Super Soldier Serum adds a different, more tragic layer. Both origins offer unique and compelling aspects to the character.
Forgot to mention but the reason this film skipped the origin story is that it had already been explored a few years earlier in Ang Lee's Hulk (2003). We do get a brief recap of the origin during the opening credits with the film jumping ahead to when Bruce is on the run. This makes it less of an origin film and more like "another day in the life" of Bruce Banner. However, we do see the emergence of his villains, so you could argue that this film serves as more of an origin story for his villain roster than for the Hulk himself.
My favourite part was, when hulk whispers "leave me alone", like god whispering. What do you think? I watched this more than 50 times. He is my favourite super hero.
The "science" behind the Hulk is explained in weirdly-high detail, as comic book science goes: The original process to make super soldiers involved injecting the subject with a serum, and then bombarding them with "Vita" radiation. After the original process was lost, the military was able to scrape the serum together from blood samples of test subjects, but they could never recreate the Vita radiation. So, they tried other kinds of radiation. The Hulk is the result of replacing the Vita rays with Gamma rays (and some unique genetic characteristics of Bruce Banner).
17:41 - This explanation will contain spoilers for other MCU projects . . . . . . . . . . . . . In Captain America 1 they created a Super Soldier Serum that was essentially perfect and made Captain America who he was, but the research was lost and many countries around the world have tried replicating it but couldn't get it exactly right which makes it result in strong but not as strong candidates or freaks and monsters they can't control as easily such as the Hulk. Bruce took a version of the Super Soldier Serum. Bruce thought Gamma Rays would get the results Ross was searching for but was wrong. Although it was technically a failure, Ross saw this as an opportunity. The serum he gave Blonsky was only a small dose of an experimental version of it as to keep him focused on the mission, so that serum had unpredictable results with a full dosage and he wasn't as strong as the Hulk. And Blonsky was advised there could be negative side effects.
I've looked through the MCU so many times, it's very refreshing to see it again from the perspective of a pair of fresh eyes. Thanks for doing these reactions.
That 3rd transformation always gets me with how painful it is for Bruce Banner to transform into Hulk. Also, one of Hulk's abilities is that he draws more strength from his anger. The angrier he gets, the more powerful he becomes. To answer any questions, Bruce Banner's grasp over Hulk depends on HOW he transforms. If it happens voluntarily, Hulk has more of an ability to reason and comprehend things. But if it happens through uncontrollable stimuli like anger, Hulk is the living equivalent of a wrecking ball.
The intro to this movie, where they tell the origin of the Hulk, is a copy/ homage to the Incredible Hulk TV show, which aired in the U.S. from the late 70s to early 80s on CBS. The muscular security guard they show on the school campus is Lou Ferigno, the actor who played the actual "Hulk" as they couldn't use CGI then, and make him big like the comics and this movie, so they painted a muscular guy green. The famous line, "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry" that they played with during the intro, is from an episode of the TV series, and used in the intro. They also did the homage in the movie intro telling the origin story because just 5 years earlier in 2003(before Marvel got the film rights back) Universal made a Hulk movie simply titled, Hulk, directed by Ang Lee (crouching tiger, hidden dragon) and starring Eric Bana (Hector in Troy) as Bruce Banner, Jennifer Connelly as Betty Ross.and Sam Elliott as General Thunderbolt Ross. It might be on Disney plus as well. It was the 1st CGI hulk, but the movie lacked action, and tried to delve more into the psychological trauma of Bruce. And they had to get the rights back because in the 90s Marvel Comics went bankrupt and had to sell the movie rights to studios to stay afloat. 20th century fox got stuff like Fantastic 4, X-men, Sony bought Spider-Man (and still own his movie rights to this day, thus why they make movies with characters that appeared in Spider-Man comics 1st, like Venom, Madam Web, and Morbius.) 2006 Marvel took out a loan to make their own movies with the characters they had left, the biggest characters they had left were Avengers characters like Iron-Man, Thor, Hulk, etc. Iron-Man and this movie were both released Summer of 2008, Iron-Man was a huge hit. (This movie actually did about the same business as the 2003 Hulk) Then in 2011, as they were filming the Avengers, Disney bought Marvel comics, which of course includes the movies they were making. And a few years later bought the 20th Century Fox movie catalog, thus giving Marvel the movie rights back for characters like X-men and Fantastic Four. Thus how you got Deadpool and Wolverine as an MCU movie this past summer. Last, here's the intro for the TV series. In the show they called him David Banner, (made Bruce hus middle name, you see it on the tombstone in the intro) because a producer at the time thought Bruce sounded too gay. ua-cam.com/video/z9MysTXM_P4/v-deo.htmlsi=Ayt06wd2cCQcJ8r_
27:24 he jumps because he wants to increase his heart rate to the limit with the shot of adrenaline of near death he experiences in the fall and make Hulk come out Amazing I was waiting for this one, keep going Kali and I hope so far you have enjoyed the movies
Hey Kali, I see you are surprised by the depth of these superhero stories and altruistic motivations. -------- Their arc leads them to want to help society instead of exploiting the world with their powers. ------- When you watch the origin story of Captain America it will hit you really hard. The has one of the best and deepest backstories in the MCU. ------- ENJOY THE RIDE.
This is still the best live action looking hulk we’ve ever gotten 💯. I remember my mom renting this movie for me and I was like 7/8, I would just skip to the parts of the movie where I saw hulk 😂
Fun Fact: This movie marks the 4th time Edward Norton played a character with DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder). Primal Fear Fight Club The Score (2001)
In case someone else hasn't mentioned it, the security guard Norton delivers a pizza to (the big guy) is Lou Ferrigno, who used to star as The Hulk in the old The Incredible Hulk TV series. Kali: "No offense, but he has a face that seems easy to hate." That's Eli Roth for you.
As you are a gamer and now posting movie/show reactions, you might consider the Fallout series. Doesn't matter if you've played them, it's a different story in the same world. And it's quite good.
Welcome to the MCU! Happy to have a new reactor to watch enjoy these movies for the first time. A couple of things: While there isn't a post credit scene for "The Incredible Hulk", there are these short films that came out that add a little extra to the first bunch of Marvel movies. They are called Marvel One-Shots and are considered canon. Here is how they line up: "The Consultant" should be watched after "Iron Man 2" (4 min run time) "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way To Thor's Hammer" should be watched before "Thor" (4 min run time) "Item 47" should be watched after "The Avengers" (8 min run time) "Agent Carter" happens one year after the events of "Captain America: The FIrst Avenger" (14 min run time) "All Hail The King" takes place after the events of "Iron Man 3". (14 min run time) And, about the tv show "Agents of SHIELD", you should not watch it until after you've seen "Iron Man 3". The show is an excellent show, and still rates 95% on Rotten Tomatoes. The show, through the first few seasons lines up with the movie releases. Unfortunately, as time went on, and studio politics got involved between Marvel's Movie and Television divisions, the sharing of info got less and less. So the movie tie-ins got less and less. But the show remained an excellent show. You can look up how the shows line up with the movies, so that you don't spoil either. Looking forward to following your journey through the MCU!
Back when I was on a big movie binge in the late 2000's, Edward Norton was one of my favorite actors, so I really enjoyed his character here! Liv Tyler was a welcome sight too. In general there's just soooo many great actors and actresses in the MCU! I remember, this movie exceeded my expectations so much back when I originally watched it. I wasn't too sure what to expect really, but enjoyed it so much more than I thought I would! I think in general, I just loved the personal side of it and getting to know the man inside Hulk. With these MCU movies so far, sure they're action packed superhero movies, but I've loved all the character development throughout them. With Tony finding his purpose, and Bruce here finding and accepting himself within Just speaking for myself, I love that you're on the left side now! With the way my monitors are set up for the Patreon watch-alongs, you being on the left works out so much better for me haha
32:45 This sound track is from *Gears of War. It was my first third-person game. I pretty much have not gone back to first-person games since. *Gears of War 3 Ending (Official & Insane Difficulty) Cinematic (Official HD) 5:40
Tim Roth is a spectacular face actor. It's funny that you didn't get past the first episode of She-Hulk to see him reprise the role from a totally different place.
The serum the General gave the middle-aged soldier isn't the same treatment Bruce had, it's something left over from an older, less "successful" program by different scientists with a different biochemical approach but the same goal. The General is unable to replicate Bruce's work -- primarily because he doesn't have the data Bruce has hidden (and swallowed here), but presumably also because Bruce destroyed a bunch of stuff when he first turned into the Hulk. Plus he doesn't have Bruce's expertise or the access to study him.
This isn't the first Big Screen Hulk movie. The first one starred Eric Bana. There were about four TV movies based on the 70's TV series which was my favourite 'Hulk'.
3:08 I noticed that too the first time I watched this movie.
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"Why is he so angry at him I don't understand..." He's not really angry at him... He knows he's the Hulk so he has to try to take him out before he Hulks out! The general guy sees the Hulk as military property. They want to use him as a weapon. The Hulk himself wants to find a cure and go live happily ever after with his girlfriend. That conflict is what leads to all their fighting.
Here is an interesting thought, back in the 1950's and yes I'm dating myself, there was a movie called the amazing colossal man, in the movie a soldier gets caught near a nuclear test and somehow survives the explosion, in fact so much so his body starts regenerating at an alarming rate and starts to grow. Now I firmly believe that Jack Kirby and Stan Lee were inspired by this movie because in the comics Bruce Banner gets caught in a Gamma explosion and survives and becomes the Hulk.
That guy with the pizza, the jacked guy was the original Hulk back in the day. But I think you would love the Hulk movie from the early 2000s. It was another actor who played Bruce Banner and that movie really show how his character gets deep. Its more like in the comics too. Even shows how he gets the gamma radiation and a beautiful love story. I would love to watch your reaction to that movie if it's alright to you.
You may already have found out (or not really care), but there is a "The Hulk" film by another company from 2003, and _that_ one has no post or mid credit scene! So whoever told you "the hulk has no post credit scene " wasn't technically wrong. But that's also why this one doesn't really do a full-on 'origin' story, since it had been done just a few years before. You might even want to check it out if not but for comparison.
If you really want to know the good story of the origin of the “Hulk”, in how David Banner became the “Hulk”, you should check out the 2003 Hulk with Eric Bana. I think it’s a lot better in explaining it than the 2008.
If you really like the lore and origins, PLEASE PLEASE watch Hulk 2003, that’s the real origins of the Hulk and it fits well with this movie, it’s like a continuation of the 2003 Hulk. And personally it’s my favorite Hulk movie and the most accurate.
26:11 The blood has Gamma radiation and the exposure turns Sterns into the hyper-intelligent megalomaniac Leader. Regrettably the MCU passed on this super villain.
Which we'll see him in Captain America Brave New World movie. They better not give us something ugly and unfunny like they did to M.O.D.O.K. in Ant-Man and The Wasp 3 movie.
I think its Iron man 2, thor, and then captain america. Enjoyed your playthrough. Hulk didn't kill anybody and Banner didn't steal anything. Ross lied to get what he wants
The government will continue to go after Hulk because regardless of how the situation turned out, it is basically two things that drive them. Either they want to continue to develop the Hulk's blood to make better soldiers and if he doesn't agree to work alongside the government well then the hunt goes on. Or, if they see they can't control it, then they will want to destroy it. It is kind of like a child mentality of "If I can't have it then nobody can have it." There was pretty much a similar thing with Superman. Even though there is this entity, this super being that is helping to save lives, if the government can't control it, they will view it as a threat and there for try to destroy it or to manipulate/control it in some way. I have seen many super hero movies and that story line seems to still stick around. If you want some background on the Hulk, up to you if you want to make it a react video, but I recommend you watch 2003 Hulk movie. It is pretty much a different story line but that one does go into like how things were before he became the hulk. Pretty much the main story line that was shown at the beginning of this film during the intro. Anyways, I look forward to your journey through the MCU. Once a reactor gets started on the MCU journey, even though I would have to wait a few days til the next reaction video in the series, it still in a way feels like I gotta wait months like we all originally did having to wait for the movies to release over the span of a decade or so. lol
Good reaction! I will say that Hulk isn’t evil. He’s really was only trying to defend himself from anyone that attacks him. He’s also a separate entity living in Bruce’s body. Stan Lee (Hulk’s creator who also created most of the Marvel characters) said that one of the things he based Hulk on was the Frankenstein monster in that they’re both seen as misunderstood creatures who try to do good or be left alone but people keep treating them as “monsters.” Bruce & Hulk at some point learned to co-exist in the comics after Bruce realizes that Hulk isn’t a monster but a creature wanted to be accepted. Spider-Man is actually one of the first to see Hulk as mistreated because he can relate because half of the public view Spider-Man as a menace. ^^
I absolutely love that's what Stan Lee envisioned for Hulk. I wish we would have seen a bit more of that in this movie- but it is only his original/struggles so far so we can better understand who he is. I do wish they would have kept Edward Norton because I thought he made a great hulk! Thank you so much for the super! Glad you enjoyed this one. See you in Iron Man 2 next!
@@kaliwali Yes, Stan said he based the idea for the Hulk on both Frankenstein's monster and Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde. So you can see the changing part into a monstrous personality being the Jekyll/Hyde thing and the way people treat him, as a monster, as the Frankenstein part 'cause the Hulk isn't like Mr. Hyde in that he's not the dark side of Banner, but more Banner's protector. Think of someone who has D.I.D., so when they're threatened, a protector personality emerges as a coping mechanism. The personality may be tough, but not evil. He comes out when Banner needs protecting and saves his life, but when he's forced out, he kinda lashes out at anything he perceives as threatening which might be anyone nearby. One thing they don't say, but they show, is that the angrier the Hulk gets, the stronger he gets. Blonsky (The Abomination) is base-level bigger and stronger than the Hulk, but during the fight, you see Hulk getting angrier and he eventually overpowers The Abomination (and yes, that is his name in the comics 😁). I'd heard it said that Hulk's strength limit is, theoretically, infinite since there's no telling just how angry he can get. Also, you asked why Betty stopped him from killing Blonsky, she doesn't want to see Bruce become a murderer. Hulk does kill people, but usually unintentionally and the people are collateral damage of his rampages. Another reason people view him as a monster. This movie takes place early in his... "career" so they didn't have a lot of confirmed deaths linked to the Hulk, although they did mention potentially a couple of hunters, I think.
The Hulk is a "protector" yes he gets angry, but he uses that anger to protect or self defense. You see that in end when Hulk turns his back on his adversary to save Betty from fire on helicopter. The abomination on the other hand wanted the power and uses his anger and rage on others. Bruce is the Hulk and Hulk is Bruce..they are one in the same..Bruce didn't start to realize that until Betty mentioned that he recognized and even while anger strives to protect. Glad you enjoyed the movie. I prefer Ed's version on Hulk cause yes he is scary...but in a lot of ways Hulk and Wolverine stories are similar...military wants them as weapons, but they are men. Why Betty and Charles were so important because they saw the men not a weapon. And the guy wasn't addicted he was power hungry before the gamma treatment. Also, no Betty didn't want The Hulk / Bruce to kill him because it may change him. Bruce as a man is not a killer. AKA killing leaves mental scars and could cause him more trauma.
I really enjoyed this one, but my favorite Hulk will always be tv Hulk. Sure, it's basically a really big dude painted green wearing a wig and contacts, but... the human side of the character was played to perfection by Bill Bixby. The opening still holds up, IMO.
29:00 "Helicopters are scary enough." "I will never go on a helicopter tour or anything like that. Too many people get hurt in helicopters." 😂As long as you keep them right side up and don't smash anything into it, they work pretty fine. I did a helicopter tour once and enjoyed it. 29:57 "Holy crap!" That was a cool move. Quick thinking. 30:16 "Come on guy, pay attention." 🤣 34:20 [about Tony Stark] "overcoming his very cocky nature" Not as much as you probably think. Tony's a source for a lot of fun in this movies series because of that.
Good Morning Kali…I enjoyed your reaction to The Incredible Hulk. This is so awesome to watch. Edward Norton did excellent in this movie too. That fight between Hulk and Abomination was insane. Can’t wait to see what movie you will watch next in the MCU universe. You look pretty too. Keep up the amazing work and have a good day today and enjoy your Sunday. 👍💯
BTW.... the security guard he gave the pizza to is Lou Ferrigno... he is the OG hulk for the tv shows in the 80's. .
1977 to 1982, more 70s than 80s. I watched it every week.
I'm Brazilian, and we speak Brazilian Portuguese here. They came to shoot in Rio de Janeiro, which caused a lot of excitement, as everyone was talking about a Marvel movie being filmed in our country. They were very cautious, especially with the language aspect, which is usually dubbed into English or features actors speaking English. However, they took care and invited some Brazilian actors to appear in the film.
The rest was filmed in my hometown of Toronto Canada. 😛
@@courtenaymckee7491 yes
Well, despite the effort being appreciated, I'd say "very cautious" is giving them too much credit. They tried to have the actors that were supposed to be locals in the story speak PT-BR, but most don't sound like native speakers at all and have weirdly constructed lines that clearly are just direct translations of English lines, apart, of course, from the ones that are actual Brazilians, like the pretty factory girl (portrayed by Débora Nascimento) and the martial arts trainer (which isn't an actual actor, but was portrayed by the real martial artist Rickson Gracie).
It would've been better (and probably not even expensive, at least at the time) to just hire an entire Brazilian cast for that part of the movie (they'd need, what, about 4 more of them to cover the ones that actually have lines?), but it is what it is -- it's already a surprise that they bothered to have some at all back in 2008, when I think most studios really didn't care in the slightest about this type of stuff, but again, "very cautious" is giving too much credit imo.
don't mind those people. Me and others completely agree with you
@@courtenaymckee7491 yup, they filmed at U of T and downtown Toronto. I was working one night downtown when they were filming the final fight scene but one of my co-wokers got to check out the film site that night.
“You wouldn’t like me when I am angry “ is a quote from the original Hulk TV show.
Yeah. It was a reference to the old Hulk tv show. The actor also appeared in the movie, which was cool. Lou Ferrigno.
This movie was the epitome of Stan Lee’s vision of the Hulk. Like Frankenstein’s Monster, he was never evil. He has a good heart. But it’s the people that constantly come and attack him that makes him go out of control.
The Hulk was never any more "evil" than a wild animal that's been backed into a corner. He is rage manifest, but it comes from a place of fear and survival instinct.
No he's not... Why was he scared he was going to Hulk out with his girlfriend if he is "rage manifest"... He Hulks out when his heart rate is too high. It literally doesn't matter what he's doing...
I merely listed two of his triggers, the triggers most commonly focused on in his origin, and the point was to address his morality.
the saying 'Don't make me angry' is from the old T.V. show from the 70's. So was the security guard that got the free medium pizza, that was Lou Ferrigno, he played the hulk on that show. Great reaction hope you enjoy the rest of the movies. All of the origin story ones are fantastic
1) The person who drank the infected drink with Stan Lee. Watch for his cameos.
2) The security guard who took the pizza was Lou Ferrigno, who played the Hulk (but not Bruce Banner) in the '70s TV show.
3) They have some serum that is in short supply, but it's not results as the Hulk.
There's more I want to write, but I'm not going to give away spoilers. 😅
There's an end credits scene between Ross and Tony Stark. worth watching.
Fun fact: Medium pizza security guy is the original live action Hulk during the time of no CGI, bodybuilder Lou Ferrigno. They would film him shirtless and paint him green with a wig and bushy eyebrows. 😁
Another awesome react video. Love how you are more into understanding the lore and the characters. Can't wait for the next one! Also, Mass Effect piano music is 💜
He also made a cameo in Ang Lee’s Hulk and if I remember correctly Eric Bana made a cameo in this
Lou Ferrigno is his name
Almost EVERY newbie misses the outro, but few revisit. "Well played..."
Hulk does have an end credit scene.
No one in the comments has shared this yet, so I will.
Fun fact: In the beginning of the film Ed Norton is seen doing some breathing techniques with an individual, learning to control his emotions. It's only fitting that they are in Brazil, because that individual is Rickson Gracie, a member of the Gracie family, who are from Brazil. The Gracie family is actually world renowned - for having invented Brazilian Jujitsu, a very common martial art especially within MMA.
Nice. Far too people are unkind to this movie, when us comic book nerds recognized how accurate it really was. An incredible story, done well.
Great reaction. A little note for you. Suggestion really. Keep this in mind: Serum injection, exposure to Gamma Rays, and Personality traits. Just keep those 3 things in mind. I'm not going to spoil anything for you in future movies. But those 3 things come up again. When they do, then I'll comment on them. Then you'll understand why. They will literally be "now I get it" moments. I hope you are enjoying your MCU journey so far. Can't wait til your next reaction.
0:53 Ed Norton is my fave Bruce Banner/Hulk, his acting chops speak for themselves, was sad when he wasn’t cast for further MCU films, from memory was cause he clashed with the director and Kevin Feige over the writing/direction of the Hulk in the movie so he left MCU due to creative differences & they got Ruffalo instead.
4:10 It’s Portuguese but Brazilian dialect/accent rather than Original European one.
5:50 “Don’t make me angry, you wouldn’t like me when I’m angry” line was from The Incredible Hulk tv series from late 70s, the actor who played Dr David Banner, Bill Bixby says that line right before he turns into The Hulk played by Bodybuilder, Lou Ferrigno. Also the theme for the show is iconic too 👍🏽👍🏽. EDIT: Tv show changed Bruce Banners name to David for some reason, if I remember, I’ll edit comment.
21:52 Yeah, he does lol. Tim Roth is another awesome actor too 👍🏽.
The director loved working with Edward Norton, it was fiege and marvel Edward had an issue with, he didn’t want marvel and Kevin fiege to ruin the character, Louis Leterrier said he misses Edward in a recent podcast 😊
@@Chasejones2004 Leterrier also clashed with Norton, it was well documented. If it’s the podcast interview I’m thinking of from a year or so ago, Louis saying he loves Norton but also saying Norton not wanting to talk to him since making of the film as Ed didn’t even promote the Hulk movie says all you need to know how Ed feels about the whole situation.
Kevin Feige is dumb!
The Ruffalo-Norton timeline:
Director Louis Leterrier's first choice for this was apparently Ruffalo but he was unavailable. Marvel was excited at first to get Norton because he was also a creative type, a writer and director. The plan was for Norton to be Hulk in the Avengers. But he (apparently) clashed with the Marvel higher-ups and kept angling for more creative control on the Avengers film, which led to them parting ways. By that point, Ruffalo was available and he's been the Hulk ever since. Fun fact, Marvel has only replaced four main MCU actors (as opposed to the Marvel films produced by other studios). One was because an actor died, one because he was unavailable (I'll tell you when we get to those films) but the other two were because of disagreements: Norton as Hulk and Terrance Howard, who played Rhodey in Iron Man. When you do your Iron Man 2 reaction, you'll see Don Cheadle instead. Ruffalo and Cheadle are in for the long haul.
One thing to note, try to remember the names and actors of the supporting characters from this film, because the characters from this film have the longest gaps between appearances. General Ross doesn't appear again for 14 movies...the rest don't appear again until after Endgame. This makes this film kind of an anomaly compared to other MCU projects.
Fun fact since you mentioned you had already seen Thor: Ragnarok ... when Ruffalo makes his flying leap out of the spacecraft to become Hulk (but fails) that is a callback to Norton Hulk jumping out of the helicopter in this one.
On the Iron Man end credit scene... when Iron Man ended up being a success, they signed Sam Jackson to a NINE-PICTURE DEAL based solely on that post-credit cameo. At the time that was an insane thought, but no one's laughing now!!
The "Don't Make Me Angry" line is originally from the Incredible Hulk TV show.
30:00 The "clap" is actually one of Hulks signature moves. He's been using it in the comics since the 1960s as a powerful disorienting weapon mostly
Keep in mind why Tony said: "That Super Soldier program was put on ICE for a reason".
Hey Kali, something to understand about the superhero comics and it's ability to deliver an enhanced moral base for many males. ------ The ideologies in these stories lead men to care for the weak, protect society from bullies. ------- To self-sacrifice while being anonymous, and winning the heart of that unrequited love interest. ----- A Character's self sacrifice for a larger than life cause never gets old. ------- My ladies are now joining the party, but it's never too late to join the fandom.
Marvel originally wanted Mark Ruffalo for Hulk, but he was busy with another project and they got Norton. Norton was a diva and tried to control too much of the story, so they kicked him to the curb. By the time they had the Avengers movie ready to film, Ruffalo was available and we got the best version of the Hulk on film. Norton was trying to recreate the weaker TV show Hulk, but Marvel gave us the real power Hulk in the first Avengers movie.
Nick Fury was originally white in the comics. When Marvel rebooted their comics with the Ultimate universe, they drew Nick to resemble Sam Jackson. It was a wink and a nod to comic book fans when they cast Sam in the MCU.
The serum that General Ross was giving his guy is not what was in the Hulk. He needed the Hulk's blood for that ingredient. Two separate items. But now the Abomination has both.
Fun Easter egg: the drink the general is drinking in post credits is green because it's a cocktail named "Incredible Hulk" (equal parts hypnotic and Hennessey)
Details about the hulk you should know going forward. There was a 70s incredible hulk TV series the movie fugitive aspects took inspiration from while the two main stars of that series show up in this film. One was shown on the TV in Brazil and the other was the security guard who played the incredible hulk and was painted in green paint. There is also a hulk 2003 film which is not canon to the MCU but does provide details about the character and other aspects of the world of this character you should check out.
I just found this reaction and I am SO ready to watch you experience my favorite franchise of all time. I’m going to be sticking with you till the end and I can’t wait for the future of this series. This was a great reaction
About Samuel L Jackson: Marvel took a huge risk with him, as they basically signed him up for a whole slew of appearances, at a time when they didn't even know whether the "MCU" project would take off like they hoped.
Edward Norton, on the other hand, only did this one Hulk appearance. He was silently replaced with a different actor in the movies to come. "Silently" meaning that there's no story or anything where Bruce Banner would need facial surgery or something like that; he just looks different the next time you see him.
This one is pretty underrated. It isn't the best of the MCU, but I really enjoy Norton's Bruce.
Origin strories are good, but I like that they assume the audience is already familiar with Bruce's backstory...
As I’m sure others have stated through this thread, there are a number of nods and references to the classic TV Series “The Incredible Hulk”. The best of which is this moment at 12:55, with Banner bribing the guard with a pizza. The guard is played by Lou Ferrigno, who played The Hulk in all five seasons of the series, all three made-for-TV Movies in the late 80’s-early 90’s, and even voiced the Hulk for the 1996 Animated Series; as well as on the first two Avengers films.
I hope they bring back Edward Norton as a variant of the Hulk in Secret Wars, he was my favorite Hulk and Bruce Banner, and his chemistry with Liv Tyler was phenomenal ❤😊
That's for him to decide.
@@johnsantos507you right
My favorite character of all time. I never missed an episode of the TV series starring Lou Farigno. 😊
I'll never get over how the show changed his name to David simply because the studio thought "Bruce" sounded "too gay," according to Stan Lee 💀
But I loved how that series truly delved into the psyche of Bruce "David" Banner and the Hulk, exploring their complex and tumultuous relationship. Highlighting Bruce's struggle with his identity and the emotional turmoil stemming from his dual existence.
The power of the Hulk is unimaginable. Notably, in very Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde fashion, in some incarnations, the Hulk famously comes out at night.
Other moments, popularized especially in Al Ewing's Immortal Hulk, when Bruce is killed, at night, the Hulk rises up. He is virtually unstoppable in an innumerable amount of ways.
Splendid reaction, Kali!
"Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry" was a line used in the 1st episode of the Hulk TV show starting Bill Bixby as David Bruce Banner and Lou Ferigno as the Hulk. Lou makes a cameo in this move as the security guard bribed with a pizza.
The old man who drinks the tainted soda is Stan Lee, who was involved in the creation of many of these characters. Stan makes a cameo in almost every movie starring a Marvel comic book character even before the MCU movies. Look out for him in every film.
There are end credit scenes in every MCU movie until.. no spoilers 😂😂
Some movies have more the one after credit scene.
Three things to watch for in every MCU movie:
1. Stan Lee cameo - the head of Marvel Comics for many, many years, creator of many of these characters.
2. End credit scenes - many of the movies will have more than one.
3. A scene where someone falls/jumps/ejects out of an aircraft. In Iron Man, the pilot ejects from the fighter plane when the mid-air collision with Iron Man breaks off a wing. In Hulk, Banner falls from the helicopter to try to transform into the Hulk. There will be more.
your reaction to the classic hulk thunder-clap was the best!
This movie was originally supposed to have an after credit scene, but it got cut because they decided it was too dark. It actually gets reference in The Avengers movie. I'm not sure how far ahead you watch these things and you have not published The Avengers yet so, as small of a spoiler as it would be, I'm not going to mention what it was in case you have not watched The Avengers yet.
My first exposure to the Hulk was as a boy in the 1970's/80's and watching the TV series. I loved watching that show. It was a little sad and I loved the late Bill Bixby as Bruce Banner. I know many people do not like it, but I also like the earlier film with Eric Bana as Bruce, Jennifer Connelly as Betty and Sam Elliott as General Ross. And Nick Nolte was Bruce's father.
"These are bad guys..."
When I first read a Hulk comic, at the age (probably) of about six or seven, it confused me no end. The Hulk was the title character, so he was the hero, right? He was the good guy. So why were the army and the police and everyone else always attacking him? Why couldn't they see he was a superhero? Why was he fighting against them, crushing tanks and destroying buildings? It took me some time to appreciate the character fully. He's like a cross between Frankenstein's monster and Dr Jekyll/ Mr Hyde. When written properly, he can be one of the more complex Marvel characters, and all the more interesting for it.
"You won't like me when I'm angry..."
I'm sure the phrase must have existed beforehand, but it really entered the public consciousness and became a kind of catch-phrase when it was used by the Hulk in the 1970s TV show. You could bank on it being used at least once in every episode (or it seemed that way!) I guess it was a kind of meme, before memes even existed!
It was only used in the pilot when David Banner confronted the reporter.
@@eq1373 A scene which was subsequently replayed during the opening credits sequence of EVERY episode back in the day before either VCRs or even widespread television remotes would even allow skipping those credits.
Hey Kali, I love your excitement at the twist and turns in the story line. ------ I grew up reading these comics and to see them come to live with an emphasis on the depth of character was amazing. -------- As a female you have to understand superhero movies are modern Greek tragedies with bitter sweet endings. ------- Which makes them much deeper than you expect.
From here on out, there's at least one credit scene, sometimes two. I think one of them down the road has four separate scenes. Glad you were able to add the scene from "Iron Man" to this one!
I'm not giving any spoilers here, but part of what makes the MCU interesting going forward is all of the crossover. I'm pretty sure you already understand that. This movie had a little bit of this at the end with Tony showing up, and some references to SHIELD. Crossover generally increases as we go forward, so you have to pay attention. New people aside from the title characters are added. I think you already know it, but keep an eye out for Stan Lee! Also, two of the richest men in the US happen to have cameos in the next film. Everybody tends to recognize one of them, but nobody seems to catch the other, as he has a relatively low media profile, so I'll point him out now: Larry Ellison of Oracle, who I think gets to say "Hey, Tony!" early in the film, just before Stan's cameo. He's currently #5 in the US. It's kind of funny how you can have hundreds of billions of dollars, be a key figure in the tech industry for decades, be in a major film, and still fly under the radar!
As someone who used to watch the original series on TV, the reporter that gives the name Hulk in the interview (McGee) is the same name as the reporter in the original series that kept following Dr. Banner trying to expose him.
So the deal with Blonski is he got a version of the captain america syrum but its tainted, so it boosts aggression and violent tendencies. Bruce was an accident, you understand now that his blood is very dangerous. That's why they are after him, the Hulk is one of the most powerful creatures in that universe, infinite strength, the madder he gets the stronger he gets.
"You wouldn't like me when I'm angry" was previously used in "The Incredible Hulk" TV series.
I really appreciate elements of this film, but it's far from my favorite take on the Hulk. I'm glad you enjoyed it, though! Personally, I feel like the depth of Hulk and Bruce Banner as a character really needs a whole TV series to be properly explored, which you just can't get across in a single film. Ang Lee's 2003 movie tried this, and in many ways, it was a cool, experimental film that stands out regardless of whether you think it's good or not. But for me, nothing comes close to the Hulk from the 1990s Incredible Hulk cartoon or Earth's Mightiest Heroes from 2010. Animated Hulk is just really well done, and that's partly thanks to animation being a lot cheaper than live action and the benefit of having a whole season to spread out storytelling across different story arcs.
*MCU Origin:*
In the MCU, we don’t get much of Hulk’s origin story, as the film skips over it. However, the basics are summed up in the opening sequence. The U.S. government and army were working on replicating the Super Soldier Serum (which is important moving forward) for decades but to no avail. Banner was pressured by General Ross to take part in the project. In the end, Banner uses a special primer and exposes himself to too much gamma radiation, causing the experiment to "fail" as he transforms into the Hulk, injuring both Betty Ross and her father.
Mainline Comics (Earth-616) Origin:
In the mainline comics, Bruce Banner’s origin involves a test on a new gamma bomb by the U.S. Army and General Ross at a nuclear test site. A teenager named Rick Jones wanders into the blast area, and Bruce tells his colleague Igor Starsky to stop the countdown. However, Igor, secretly a Soviet agent, does nothing, hoping Bruce would die in the explosion and the gamma project would be stopped. Bruce saves Rick by throwing him into a protective trench, but is hit by the gamma bomb himself, turning into the Hulk. This origin, introduced in Incredible Hulk #1 (1962), reflects the Cold War tensions of the 1960s something you'll notice across all Marvel comics during this time.
The Fantastic Four, for instance, emphasized the optimism surrounding space travel, portraying astronauts as celebrity figures, much like how the public viewed them during the Space Race. Spider-Man reflected the social unrest of the era, with students protesting the Vietnam War and many of Peter Parker's classmates being drafted, with Peter himself facing that possibility. Meanwhile, The X-Men highlighted the themes of bigotry and racism that were prevalent during the time.
*Ultimate Universe (Earth-1610) Origin:*
The MCU draws a lot from the Ultimate Universe, a modernized continuity from the 2000s. In this version, Nick Fury gathers a think tank in the late 1980s to early 1990s to recreate the Super Soldier Serum. Bruce Banner is part of this group and experiments on himself with a version of the serum, only to turn into the Hulk, injuring several people before fleeing. Two of the think tank members, Mary and Richard Parker. Peter Parker's parents were among those wounded in the process. This origin is quite similar to what happens in the MCU film, Ultimate Universe loved to tie a lot of characters' origins to the Super Soldier Serum, with everyone and their mother trying to recreate it. Each attempt resulting in different side effects. It was a unique take meant to "ground" the reality of that universe. However, I prefer the individual uniqueness of the mainline comics, where characters’ origins are less connected to each other, allowing for more diverse and distinct backstories.
There is a key difference to both the Mainline comics and the MCU: Ultimate Hulk has a much darker side, as he engages in cannibalism and often eats his victims. The Ultimate comics had a much edgier, grittier tone, which made certain elements hit or miss for a lot of readers, including myself. So I'm glad the MCU reflected more of the Mainline comics.
*MCU Mixture:*
The MCU is like a melting pot of mainline Marvel comics, the Ultimate Universe, and its own unique changes to characters, events, and places. For the Hulk, the MCU blends elements from both the gamma radiation and General Ross aspects of the mainline comics with the Super Soldier Serum program from the Ultimate Universe. Personally, I like both origin stories. The gamma bomb incident is heroic and a cool concept, while connecting the Hulk to the Super Soldier Serum adds a different, more tragic layer. Both origins offer unique and compelling aspects to the character.
Forgot to mention but the reason this film skipped the origin story is that it had already been explored a few years earlier in Ang Lee's Hulk (2003). We do get a brief recap of the origin during the opening credits with the film jumping ahead to when Bruce is on the run. This makes it less of an origin film and more like "another day in the life" of Bruce Banner. However, we do see the emergence of his villains, so you could argue that this film serves as more of an origin story for his villain roster than for the Hulk himself.
Why are and have nerds always been oh so desperate to be heard?
@@WheresWaldo05 Found you :D
Best security guard is Lou ferrigno. Who played the hulk in the television show with Bill Bixby playing the normal size banner
My favourite part was, when hulk whispers "leave me alone", like god whispering. What do you think? I watched this more than 50 times. He is my favourite super hero.
The "science" behind the Hulk is explained in weirdly-high detail, as comic book science goes: The original process to make super soldiers involved injecting the subject with a serum, and then bombarding them with "Vita" radiation. After the original process was lost, the military was able to scrape the serum together from blood samples of test subjects, but they could never recreate the Vita radiation. So, they tried other kinds of radiation. The Hulk is the result of replacing the Vita rays with Gamma rays (and some unique genetic characteristics of Bruce Banner).
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In Captain America 1 they created a Super Soldier Serum that was essentially perfect and made Captain America who he was, but the research was lost and many countries around the world have tried replicating it but couldn't get it exactly right which makes it result in strong but not as strong candidates or freaks and monsters they can't control as easily such as the Hulk.
Bruce took a version of the Super Soldier Serum. Bruce thought Gamma Rays would get the results Ross was searching for but was wrong. Although it was technically a failure, Ross saw this as an opportunity. The serum he gave Blonsky was only a small dose of an experimental version of it as to keep him focused on the mission, so that serum had unpredictable results with a full dosage and he wasn't as strong as the Hulk. And Blonsky was advised there could be negative side effects.
I've looked through the MCU so many times, it's very refreshing to see it again from the perspective of a pair of fresh eyes. Thanks for doing these reactions.
That 3rd transformation always gets me with how painful it is for Bruce Banner to transform into Hulk. Also, one of Hulk's abilities is that he draws more strength from his anger. The angrier he gets, the more powerful he becomes. To answer any questions, Bruce Banner's grasp over Hulk depends on HOW he transforms. If it happens voluntarily, Hulk has more of an ability to reason and comprehend things. But if it happens through uncontrollable stimuli like anger, Hulk is the living equivalent of a wrecking ball.
When I first saw this, I hoped Mr. Blue was Reed Richards...😢
I love the Hulk
The intro to this movie, where they tell the origin of the Hulk, is a copy/ homage to the Incredible Hulk TV show, which aired in the U.S. from the late 70s to early 80s on CBS. The muscular security guard they show on the school campus is Lou Ferigno, the actor who played the actual "Hulk" as they couldn't use CGI then, and make him big like the comics and this movie, so they painted a muscular guy green. The famous line, "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry" that they played with during the intro, is from an episode of the TV series, and used in the intro.
They also did the homage in the movie intro telling the origin story because just 5 years earlier in 2003(before Marvel got the film rights back) Universal made a Hulk movie simply titled, Hulk, directed by Ang Lee (crouching tiger, hidden dragon) and starring Eric Bana (Hector in Troy) as Bruce Banner, Jennifer Connelly as Betty Ross.and Sam Elliott as General Thunderbolt Ross. It might be on Disney plus as well. It was the 1st CGI hulk, but the movie lacked action, and tried to delve more into the psychological trauma of Bruce.
And they had to get the rights back because in the 90s Marvel Comics went bankrupt and had to sell the movie rights to studios to stay afloat. 20th century fox got stuff like Fantastic 4, X-men, Sony bought Spider-Man (and still own his movie rights to this day, thus why they make movies with characters that appeared in Spider-Man comics 1st, like Venom, Madam Web, and Morbius.)
2006 Marvel took out a loan to make their own movies with the characters they had left, the biggest characters they had left were Avengers characters like Iron-Man, Thor, Hulk, etc. Iron-Man and this movie were both released Summer of 2008, Iron-Man was a huge hit. (This movie actually did about the same business as the 2003 Hulk) Then in 2011, as they were filming the Avengers, Disney bought Marvel comics, which of course includes the movies they were making. And a few years later bought the 20th Century Fox movie catalog, thus giving Marvel the movie rights back for characters like X-men and Fantastic Four. Thus how you got Deadpool and Wolverine as an MCU movie this past summer.
Last, here's the intro for the TV series. In the show they called him David Banner, (made Bruce hus middle name, you see it on the tombstone in the intro) because a producer at the time thought Bruce sounded too gay.
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27:24 he jumps because he wants to increase his heart rate to the limit with the shot of adrenaline of near death he experiences in the fall and make Hulk come out
Amazing I was waiting for this one, keep going Kali and I hope so far you have enjoyed the movies
So this version of Bruce Banner is a doctor of Biochemistry, Nuclear Physics, and Gamma Radiation.
Hey Kali, I see you are surprised by the depth of these superhero stories and altruistic motivations. -------- Their arc leads them to want to help society instead of exploiting the world with their powers. ------- When you watch the origin story of Captain America it will hit you really hard. The has one of the best and deepest backstories in the MCU. ------- ENJOY THE RIDE.
especially after her reaction to saving private ryan
This is still the best live action looking hulk we’ve ever gotten 💯. I remember my mom renting this movie for me and I was like 7/8, I would just skip to the parts of the movie where I saw hulk 😂
5:50 it’s from the comics it’s basically Bruce’s catchphrase
Fun Fact: This movie marks the 4th time Edward Norton played a character with DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder).
Primal Fear
Fight Club
The Score (2001)
In case someone else hasn't mentioned it, the security guard Norton delivers a pizza to (the big guy) is Lou Ferrigno, who used to star as The Hulk in the old The Incredible Hulk TV series.
Kali: "No offense, but he has a face that seems easy to hate." That's Eli Roth for you.
Liv Tyler! Daughter of lead singer of Aerosmith is in the movie, I had forgotten!
Red she hulk also
Banner- "Don't make me angry, you won't like me when I'm angry."
Thug-"I don't like you now"
They did not give him a lower dosage. It’s a completely different drug completely. It’s going to be covered in the future
As you are a gamer and now posting movie/show reactions, you might consider the Fallout series. Doesn't matter if you've played them, it's a different story in the same world. And it's quite good.
Welcome to the MCU! Happy to have a new reactor to watch enjoy these movies for the first time.
A couple of things: While there isn't a post credit scene for "The Incredible Hulk", there are these short films that came out that add a little extra to the first bunch of Marvel movies. They are called Marvel One-Shots and are considered canon. Here is how they line up:
"The Consultant" should be watched after "Iron Man 2" (4 min run time)
"A Funny Thing Happened on the Way To Thor's Hammer" should be watched before "Thor" (4 min run time)
"Item 47" should be watched after "The Avengers" (8 min run time)
"Agent Carter" happens one year after the events of "Captain America: The FIrst Avenger" (14 min run time)
"All Hail The King" takes place after the events of "Iron Man 3". (14 min run time)
And, about the tv show "Agents of SHIELD", you should not watch it until after you've seen "Iron Man 3". The show is an excellent show, and still rates 95% on Rotten Tomatoes. The show, through the first few seasons lines up with the movie releases. Unfortunately, as time went on, and studio politics got involved between Marvel's Movie and Television divisions, the sharing of info got less and less. So the movie tie-ins got less and less. But the show remained an excellent show. You can look up how the shows line up with the movies, so that you don't spoil either.
Looking forward to following your journey through the MCU!
Back when I was on a big movie binge in the late 2000's, Edward Norton was one of my favorite actors, so I really enjoyed his character here! Liv Tyler was a welcome sight too. In general there's just soooo many great actors and actresses in the MCU!
I remember, this movie exceeded my expectations so much back when I originally watched it. I wasn't too sure what to expect really, but enjoyed it so much more than I thought I would! I think in general, I just loved the personal side of it and getting to know the man inside Hulk. With these MCU movies so far, sure they're action packed superhero movies, but I've loved all the character development throughout them. With Tony finding his purpose, and Bruce here finding and accepting himself within
Just speaking for myself, I love that you're on the left side now! With the way my monitors are set up for the Patreon watch-alongs, you being on the left works out so much better for me haha
32:45 This sound track is from *Gears of War. It was my first third-person game. I pretty much have not gone back to first-person games since.
*Gears of War 3 Ending (Official & Insane Difficulty) Cinematic (Official HD) 5:40
Tim Roth is a spectacular face actor. It's funny that you didn't get past the first episode of She-Hulk to see him reprise the role from a totally different place.
The serum the General gave the middle-aged soldier isn't the same treatment Bruce had, it's something left over from an older, less "successful" program by different scientists with a different biochemical approach but the same goal. The General is unable to replicate Bruce's work -- primarily because he doesn't have the data Bruce has hidden (and swallowed here), but presumably also because Bruce destroyed a bunch of stuff when he first turned into the Hulk. Plus he doesn't have Bruce's expertise or the access to study him.
21:30 Why settle for a Jr. Cheesburger when you can have a Big mac meal
This isn't the first Big Screen Hulk movie. The first one starred Eric Bana. There were about four TV movies based on the 70's TV series which was my favourite 'Hulk'.
One of my favorite Marvel movies, This Hulk looks so much better than Avengers Hulk
17:45 They don't want just regular juiced soldiers they want super soldiers.
el diseño de este increible hulk es casi paresido al de la serie de television del año 1977 por eso es tan god 🔥🔥💪
3:08 I noticed that too the first time I watched this movie.
"Why is he so angry at him I don't understand..."
He's not really angry at him... He knows he's the Hulk so he has to try to take him out before he Hulks out! The general guy sees the Hulk as military property. They want to use him as a weapon. The Hulk himself wants to find a cure and go live happily ever after with his girlfriend. That conflict is what leads to all their fighting.
Awesome reaction. Edward Norton was good as Hulk but he left the franchise because of creative difference and was replaced by Mark Ruffalo.
Here is an interesting thought, back in the 1950's and yes I'm dating myself, there was a movie called the amazing colossal man, in the movie a soldier gets caught near a nuclear test and somehow survives the explosion, in fact so much so his body starts regenerating at an alarming rate and starts to grow. Now I firmly believe that Jack Kirby and Stan Lee were inspired by this movie because in the comics Bruce Banner gets caught in a Gamma explosion and survives and becomes the Hulk.
That guy with the pizza, the jacked guy was the original Hulk back in the day. But I think you would love the Hulk movie from the early 2000s. It was another actor who played Bruce Banner and that movie really show how his character gets deep. Its more like in the comics too. Even shows how he gets the gamma radiation and a beautiful love story.
I would love to watch your reaction to that movie if it's alright to you.
You may already have found out (or not really care), but there is a "The Hulk" film by another company from 2003, and _that_ one has no post or mid credit scene! So whoever told you "the hulk has no post credit scene " wasn't technically wrong. But that's also why this one doesn't really do a full-on 'origin' story, since it had been done just a few years before. You might even want to check it out if not but for comparison.
If you really want to know the good story of the origin of the “Hulk”, in how David Banner became the “Hulk”, you should check out the 2003 Hulk with Eric Bana. I think it’s a lot better in explaining it than the 2008.
12:44 He's, like, "Dang, I should've slept with Factory Lady." 😲😆
12:55, that is the original Hulk actor
If you really like the lore and origins, PLEASE PLEASE watch Hulk 2003, that’s the real origins of the Hulk and it fits well with this movie, it’s like a continuation of the 2003 Hulk. And personally it’s my favorite Hulk movie and the most accurate.
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The blood has Gamma radiation and the exposure turns Sterns into the hyper-intelligent megalomaniac Leader. Regrettably the MCU passed on this super villain.
Which we'll see him in Captain America Brave New World movie. They better not give us something ugly and unfunny like they did to M.O.D.O.K. in Ant-Man and The Wasp 3 movie.
Most of Latin and South America speak Spanish. Brazilians speak Portuguese.
I think its Iron man 2, thor, and then captain america. Enjoyed your playthrough. Hulk didn't kill anybody and Banner didn't steal anything. Ross lied to get what he wants
The incredible hulk does have a ending credit scene tony stark showing up at the end
For the hulk origin story check out the Eric bana version.
This movie does have an end credit scene btw.
It's good seeing young people enjoying the Marvel Universe
The government will continue to go after Hulk because regardless of how the situation turned out, it is basically two things that drive them. Either they want to continue to develop the Hulk's blood to make better soldiers and if he doesn't agree to work alongside the government well then the hunt goes on. Or, if they see they can't control it, then they will want to destroy it. It is kind of like a child mentality of "If I can't have it then nobody can have it." There was pretty much a similar thing with Superman. Even though there is this entity, this super being that is helping to save lives, if the government can't control it, they will view it as a threat and there for try to destroy it or to manipulate/control it in some way. I have seen many super hero movies and that story line seems to still stick around. If you want some background on the Hulk, up to you if you want to make it a react video, but I recommend you watch 2003 Hulk movie. It is pretty much a different story line but that one does go into like how things were before he became the hulk. Pretty much the main story line that was shown at the beginning of this film during the intro. Anyways, I look forward to your journey through the MCU. Once a reactor gets started on the MCU journey, even though I would have to wait a few days til the next reaction video in the series, it still in a way feels like I gotta wait months like we all originally did having to wait for the movies to release over the span of a decade or so. lol
Good reaction! I will say that Hulk isn’t evil. He’s really was only trying to defend himself from anyone that attacks him. He’s also a separate entity living in Bruce’s body. Stan Lee (Hulk’s creator who also created most of the Marvel characters) said that one of the things he based Hulk on was the Frankenstein monster in that they’re both seen as misunderstood creatures who try to do good or be left alone but people keep treating them as “monsters.” Bruce & Hulk at some point learned to co-exist in the comics after Bruce realizes that Hulk isn’t a monster but a creature wanted to be accepted. Spider-Man is actually one of the first to see Hulk as mistreated because he can relate because half of the public view Spider-Man as a menace. ^^
I absolutely love that's what Stan Lee envisioned for Hulk. I wish we would have seen a bit more of that in this movie- but it is only his original/struggles so far so we can better understand who he is. I do wish they would have kept Edward Norton because I thought he made a great hulk!
Thank you so much for the super! Glad you enjoyed this one. See you in Iron Man 2 next!
@@kaliwali Yes, Stan said he based the idea for the Hulk on both Frankenstein's monster and Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde. So you can see the changing part into a monstrous personality being the Jekyll/Hyde thing and the way people treat him, as a monster, as the Frankenstein part 'cause the Hulk isn't like Mr. Hyde in that he's not the dark side of Banner, but more Banner's protector. Think of someone who has D.I.D., so when they're threatened, a protector personality emerges as a coping mechanism. The personality may be tough, but not evil. He comes out when Banner needs protecting and saves his life, but when he's forced out, he kinda lashes out at anything he perceives as threatening which might be anyone nearby.
One thing they don't say, but they show, is that the angrier the Hulk gets, the stronger he gets. Blonsky (The Abomination) is base-level bigger and stronger than the Hulk, but during the fight, you see Hulk getting angrier and he eventually overpowers The Abomination (and yes, that is his name in the comics 😁). I'd heard it said that Hulk's strength limit is, theoretically, infinite since there's no telling just how angry he can get.
Also, you asked why Betty stopped him from killing Blonsky, she doesn't want to see Bruce become a murderer. Hulk does kill people, but usually unintentionally and the people are collateral damage of his rampages. Another reason people view him as a monster. This movie takes place early in his... "career" so they didn't have a lot of confirmed deaths linked to the Hulk, although they did mention potentially a couple of hunters, I think.
The Hulk is a "protector" yes he gets angry, but he uses that anger to protect or self defense. You see that in end when Hulk turns his back on his adversary to save Betty from fire on helicopter. The abomination on the other hand wanted the power and uses his anger and rage on others. Bruce is the Hulk and Hulk is Bruce..they are one in the same..Bruce didn't start to realize that until Betty mentioned that he recognized and even while anger strives to protect. Glad you enjoyed the movie. I prefer Ed's version on Hulk cause yes he is scary...but in a lot of ways Hulk and Wolverine stories are similar...military wants them as weapons, but they are men. Why Betty and Charles were so important because they saw the men not a weapon. And the guy wasn't addicted he was power hungry before the gamma treatment. Also, no Betty didn't want The Hulk / Bruce to kill him because it may change him. Bruce as a man is not a killer. AKA killing leaves mental scars and could cause him more trauma.
RIP to Will Hurt aka Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross. The MCU recast his character after his death...
I really enjoyed this one, but my favorite Hulk will always be tv Hulk. Sure, it's basically a really big dude painted green wearing a wig and contacts, but... the human side of the character was played to perfection by Bill Bixby. The opening still holds up, IMO.
29:00 "Helicopters are scary enough." "I will never go on a helicopter tour or anything like that. Too many people get hurt in helicopters." 😂As long as you keep them right side up and don't smash anything into it, they work pretty fine. I did a helicopter tour once and enjoyed it.
29:57 "Holy crap!" That was a cool move. Quick thinking.
30:16 "Come on guy, pay attention." 🤣
34:20 [about Tony Stark] "overcoming his very cocky nature" Not as much as you probably think. Tony's a source for a lot of fun in this movies series because of that.
Oh no! Edgar Ross is now after The Hulk!
The hulk was from 2003 with Eric Bana as the Hulk.
Good Morning Kali…I enjoyed your reaction to The Incredible Hulk. This is so awesome to watch. Edward Norton did excellent in this movie too. That fight between Hulk and Abomination was insane. Can’t wait to see what movie you will watch next in the MCU universe. You look pretty too. Keep up the amazing work and have a good day today and enjoy your Sunday. 👍💯