A Minecraft Cheater Just Got Majorly Exposed

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  • @karljobst
    @karljobst  3 роки тому +4396

    Stop cheating.
    🤖 Install Mech Arena for FREE here ✅
    clik.cc/HgiVa and get a special starter pack to help kickstart your game! ⭐

    • @Ashachi
      @Ashachi 3 роки тому +344

      No

    • @user-qh8vm1me5w
      @user-qh8vm1me5w 3 роки тому +41

      Installing it to support you! :D

    • @gg_mydog968
      @gg_mydog968 3 роки тому +17

      Ok I only do it In Old GTA Games (not speedrunning )

    • @killwillv2610
      @killwillv2610 3 роки тому +24

      That's what my girl said

    • @spiderzvow1
      @spiderzvow1 3 роки тому +12

      UR NOT MY SUPEVISOR!!!!!!!!

  • @ZylenoxV
    @ZylenoxV 3 роки тому +6798

    the only thing that makes flow the worst cheater is that they shake their camera when anything happens

    • @N0N.o
      @N0N.o 3 роки тому +46

      Never thought you'd be here

    • @bcarpyy2739
      @bcarpyy2739 3 роки тому +12

      hi zylenox

    • @Tomzin20
      @Tomzin20 3 роки тому +11

      lmao truee

    • @Spamdrew128
      @Spamdrew128 3 роки тому +34

      Hello friend

    • @trqp_kun9010
      @trqp_kun9010 3 роки тому +11

      @@Spamdrew128 hello spammer guy

  • @Lemon_Inspector
    @Lemon_Inspector 3 роки тому +4986

    "The world that Flowbee is playing in is not ideal."
    I know that feeling.

    • @Tingdere14
      @Tingdere14 3 роки тому +107

      This world's a lemon. We're all Lemon Inspectors.

    • @sunbeames
      @sunbeames 3 роки тому +62

      Most people feel that. Unfortunately we can't reset life.

    • @octohunter7775
      @octohunter7775 3 роки тому +28

      @@sunbeames in real life, theres no rollback.

    • @gunsandroses896
      @gunsandroses896 3 роки тому +32

      @@sunbeames we just have to Continue and forge our own good paths.

    • @dantrav1927
      @dantrav1927 3 роки тому +14

      You win a prize for best comment of the decade right here

  • @chet_awesomelad
    @chet_awesomelad 3 роки тому +1060

    Literally right before Karl joked about how robotic and unemotional his delivery is, I was thinking "Damn, Karl's delivery has gotten better, he sounds more natural than in previous videos."

    • @uranium54321
      @uranium54321 3 роки тому +72

      I like the delivery being unemotional tbh, makes it feel more objective. I do agree he sounds more natural too

    • @sr.brigadeiro7718
      @sr.brigadeiro7718 3 роки тому +1

      Lol

    • @erickpoorbaugh6728
      @erickpoorbaugh6728 Рік тому +3

      @@uranium54321 Yeah, it feels like a professional reporter or analyst.

    • @graybonesau
      @graybonesau 10 місяців тому +1

      @@erickpoorbaugh6728 This might be why he's my favourite speedrun commentary channel.

  • @decalcomanie123
    @decalcomanie123 2 роки тому +3586

    As much as I deplore cheating, I always like that every time there is a cheating scandal, it generates lots of informational videos made by experts in the speedrunning field that are interesting to watch and learn from as a non-speedrunner.

    • @melissaq8854
      @melissaq8854 2 роки тому +24

      same here and also i learn new stuff as well about how to play minecraft haha

    • @ptrd4111
      @ptrd4111 2 роки тому +22

      Agreed, its really cool seeing how well they know how a game functions. I would bet they know the game better than the devs themselves.

    • @BeowulfNorther
      @BeowulfNorther 2 роки тому +4

      Haha especially since he always tries to mediate and tell off douchebags who act like theyre convinced someone is guilty and harrass them

    • @BeowulfNorther
      @BeowulfNorther 2 роки тому +1

      @@melissaq8854 to be fair, other than this speedrun vanilla Minecraft is insanely hollow and dull..but with FTB/tekkit modpacks it really becomes a great game, machines/reactors/tools/airships/space stations/moon and mars bases/laser mining, auto-builders, elevators, half-wall covers for wiring, 3x3 mining hammers, storage banks for items.. all the good stuff haha..default is just what, pigs and potions.
      Watch a classic yogscast mod series to see the real potential of the game

    • @OldBenKenobi2318
      @OldBenKenobi2318 2 роки тому +15

      @@BeowulfNorther That is the stupidest take on Minecraft ever. Sure mods make the game more expansive but vanilla Minecraft is not dull. It’s more than just “pigs and potions”. And it would be extremely difficult to add all this stuff to vanilla Minecraft. Modding is much easier than developing a game that millions of people play. You have to make sure it works on both bedrock and Java. You have to make sure the game has as few bugs as possible. Plus all that stuff you mentioned would ruin the feel of Minecraft.

  • @FolgoreCZ
    @FolgoreCZ 3 роки тому +8772

    Oh, where have I heard it before:
    "I'm not cheating."
    "Ok, I cheated this run that was found out, but only this one, all of my other runs are legit."
    "Ok, you got me, I cheated everything."

    • @ultimateman55
      @ultimateman55 3 роки тому +186

      I scrolled down to upvote this comment so I didn't have to write it.

    • @lightyagami3492
      @lightyagami3492 3 роки тому +490

      This is why i think all runs should be removed for a player on the leaderboard if one run is found to be cheated regardless of weather there is proof or not.

    • @fort809
      @fort809 3 роки тому +534

      @@lightyagami3492 but then when that happens the runners can throw a fit and have their fans send death threats to the mods for a year like Dream

    • @RipRLeeErmey
      @RipRLeeErmey 3 роки тому +418

      @@fort809 Bro death threats on the internet mean nothing unless someone actually pulls up. You just call them a 10 year old and watch them block you faster than you can post the trolololo link.

    • @Jason-qh2nw
      @Jason-qh2nw 3 роки тому +221

      @Just_Max when your fanbase is literal children and you're practically a deity in their eyes, yeah, it isn't hard to control a large group of people.

  • @robmckennie4203
    @robmckennie4203 3 роки тому +3796

    "we all know what it's like to feel and display emotions. right, fellow humans?"

    • @fawksntrawks
      @fawksntrawks 3 роки тому +356

      Correct fellow human. After deciphering your comment, the contraction and flexing of muscles around the sides of my mouth and eyes into what is known as a “smile” confirms that I have this ability.

    • @HallsteinI
      @HallsteinI 3 роки тому +159

      Ha. Ha. Ha.

    • @Abyssalith
      @Abyssalith 3 роки тому +15

      ̯

    • @bophadesknutz7798
      @bophadesknutz7798 3 роки тому +13

      😐

    • @Jaspertine
      @Jaspertine 3 роки тому +113

      You are indeed correct. I felt and subsequently displayed numerous emotions earlier today, in fact.

  • @Couriway
    @Couriway 3 роки тому +11750

    Just be like me and don't get caught 😎

    • @Markful
      @Markful 3 роки тому +760

      sussy

    • @ViolacTrough
      @ViolacTrough 3 роки тому +230

      *_Hmmm..._*

    • @nate_storm
      @nate_storm 3 роки тому +415

      COURIWAY在RSG戰役中CHEATING得到SCANDAL

    • @Nyroque
      @Nyroque 3 роки тому +534

      Couriway in every speedrun: oh my god I'm literally cheating

    • @onezerosevensix
      @onezerosevensix 3 роки тому +276

      just be like couriway and add 40 red arrows to every thumbnail 😎

  • @arfansthename
    @arfansthename 3 роки тому +7976

    Remember, all of this could be avoided if he'd set the category to Set Seed.

    • @hanahsbsjshcsh5356
      @hanahsbsjshcsh5356 3 роки тому +357

      but thats less impressive

    • @AJIsUnbreakable
      @AJIsUnbreakable 3 роки тому +7

      @@hanahsbsjshcsh5356 how

    • @PinkManGuy
      @PinkManGuy 3 роки тому +2088

      @@hanahsbsjshcsh5356 More like he'd have to compete with his peers on an equal level and would fade into mediocrity.

    • @angela.luntian
      @angela.luntian 3 роки тому +444

      @@hanahsbsjshcsh5356 technically its a different mechanic and type of impressive. All your strats would form around the seed, not the seed conforming to you.

    • @ToomanyFrancis
      @ToomanyFrancis 3 роки тому +516

      @@AJIsUnbreakable Karl went over it in this video. Your ability to analyze the game in the random seed glitchless category is your most important skill. Set seed glitchless is more comparable to many other games. In set seed you are simply repeating the same exact actions over and over attempting to do every single movement perfectly.
      His sub 15 minute times are pretty terrible when compared to the sub 2 minutes of the top set seed speedrun.

  • @fwiffo
    @fwiffo 3 роки тому +1719

    Man, I wish "impressing a girl by being good at a video game" was even a plausible strat when I was that young.

    • @110montauk8
      @110montauk8 3 роки тому +348

      Not just a girl, mind you, but a lesbian who already has a girlfriend. Guy took so much L the IRS might gonna tax those Ls too

    • @blushchuu
      @blushchuu 3 роки тому +39

      He didn't want to impress her by being good, he only admitted to doing it to impress her

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 3 роки тому +3

      Same

    • @PinkManGuy
      @PinkManGuy 3 роки тому +46

      It's true though, if Super Nintendo or older was part of your childhood, nobody in your age group gave a fuck if you could beat Resident Evil 1 in under an hour, complete Megaman X without taking any damage, or have an 8.0 Kill/death ratio in CS 1.6 aside from the nerds. If anything, people would pick on you for it. It's not fair.

    • @GumSkyloard
      @GumSkyloard 3 роки тому

      I mean, it worked in The Wizard, so..

  • @commander_frog
    @commander_frog 3 роки тому +913

    Guy really said he choked a run then tried to cover it up with a world record

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 3 роки тому +3139

    Let's all thank that one Blaze for moving out of position in the Nether Fortress, so they got caught

    • @fylnxx
      @fylnxx 3 роки тому +9

      wsp

    • @Mr_Doogz
      @Mr_Doogz 3 роки тому +226

      Thank you mr blaze, for you unending efforts towards catching cheaters, and making the ultimate sacrifice so that we can complete the game.

    • @FunWithMemesFunWithMemes
      @FunWithMemesFunWithMemes 3 роки тому +63

      That Blaze knew what it was doing lol

    • @Shellackle
      @Shellackle 3 роки тому +46

      I guess it aroused initial suspicion, but catching the macro and splice was what really did him in. With the times he was getting and the lack of history he had at the pace he was making, it was only a matter of time before someone did the actual digging.

    • @huh968
      @huh968 3 роки тому +10

      doesn't really matter, there was a whole bunch of things arousing suspicion which all would have led to the same hard evidence eventually

  • @bradmcgowan5453
    @bradmcgowan5453 2 роки тому +738

    I love the speed running community. Willing to stare at audio files and lines of code to find that one anomaly out of hundreds of thrushes because a run “felt too good to be true” The amount of respect I have is immeasurable

    • @KatieHuni
      @KatieHuni 2 роки тому +19

      It's actually good because they claim for it to be "real" but when they get exposed by millions of youtubers, they wanna admit it lmao

    • @DeadlockDrago
      @DeadlockDrago Рік тому +4

      That's the thing about "too good to be true." Generally it is, and they know it.

    • @I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad
      @I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad Рік тому +5

      ​@@Necrocancerr Start off with you first since using Dead Meme

    • @Theunicorn2012
      @Theunicorn2012 Рік тому +1

      I love the speed running community. Willing to stare at audio files and lines of code to find that one anomaly out of hundreds of thrushes because a run “felt too good to be true” The amount of respect I have immeasurable

  • @bean6803
    @bean6803 3 роки тому +3249

    Also, you really should have included that the reason he gave in his initial apology was that he wanted to impress one of the moderators that he had a crush on. Said moderator is not only taken, but is a lesbian.

    • @PresidentNathan
      @PresidentNathan 3 роки тому +288

      lmao

    • @anecro
      @anecro 3 роки тому +868

      This is under so many levels of Ls that I find it hard to count them.
      Even if he managed to do something impressive legitimately, like, what then? Did he expect the girl to just see him romantically all of a sudden, even if she wasn't a lesbian?

    • @crushycrawfishy1765
      @crushycrawfishy1765 3 роки тому +378

      @@anecro Speaking as a guy, we sometimes do incredibly stupid shit just for attention or some misguided venture. He probably didn't even have a plan. Just figured if he get world records I can somehow get my foot in the door and things will work out.

    • @anecro
      @anecro 3 роки тому +82

      @@crushycrawfishy1765 Well I find it weird he wouldn't at least process something like this since it's happening on the Internet. You'd think guys like this would at least think things over in here.
      As a guy, it's bizarre he jumped on speedrunning for someone he didn't know anything about. I guess it shows dedication if anything

    • @bean6803
      @bean6803 3 роки тому +237

      @@anecro - I agree with you, but to clarify, he actually didn’t start speedrunning as a whole for one girl. It’s just the reason he gave for his first initial run that was caught. That was the one where he apologized for the fake leaving the nether WR, but insisted that his other runs were legit. The entire context is that he was apparently on call with her, she left to get toast, and in that time he found a really good seed and then accidentally threw it. When she got back he lied to her and told her that he didn’t get enough pearls because he didn’t want to look stupid. She asked if he was gonna upload it anyways, and at that point he decided to fully commit to the lie to impress her. Her side of the convo was also confirmed by her, so he’s not making anything up here. He’s just dumb as hell.
      In his newest apology for all of his runs (sans an 11 minute run that he insists is real but says he won’t verify), this is the reason he gives:
      “My reasoning for cheating these runs is quite long, and it involves a lot of personal/IRL reasons that I rather not get into. I'm open to talk about it in DMs with some people and I am open to anyone that wants to interview me/ask questions, but the IRL/personal reasons will not be answered in these interviews/questions.”

  • @fwiffo
    @fwiffo 3 роки тому +950

    The portal location choices were really bananas. I can imagine running a bit before placing the portal so that you're at a better distance for the stronghold, so not placing it immediately isn't too suspicious. But climbing back up onto the fortress? He really couldn't ad lib at that point?

    • @andrewpark78
      @andrewpark78 3 роки тому +76

      With most cheaters it's almost embarrassing how little thought they put into it. The only way this guy gets caught is if he does something super weird, so if something goes terribly wrong all you have to do is accept it, maybe play it out for real, maybe just reset no worries. Same with Dream, no one cares about getting lucky once, but leaving on your drop rate boosts for hours of stream time means there is a lot of data letting them get caught. I don't really understand how these people who come up with such clever cheating methods can be so stupid when it comes down to it

    • @qxarts3896
      @qxarts3896 3 роки тому +15

      @@andrewpark78 I mean the fact these people think they need to cheat in the first place in a block game means that they’re not very clever in the first place. No results = desperation = stupid actions -> getting caught

    • @andrewpark78
      @andrewpark78 3 роки тому +51

      @@qxarts3896 simplifying cheating by saying it like "block game" is disingenuous. Cheating = results way faster = more content = money.

    • @sebastianlucas704
      @sebastianlucas704 3 роки тому +5

      @@andrewpark78 That's cause dream didn't try to cheat. Karl did a video where he goes over this. I would highly recommend watching it.

    • @andrewpark78
      @andrewpark78 3 роки тому +30

      @@sebastianlucas704 “oh I accidentally deleted my cheat client that does exactly what I was accused of down to the exact number and instead of saying oh yeah that must’ve been on I instead had my fans send death threats to my accusers and called them clout chasers. I also deleted anything that could have been used as evidence and hired a statistician that ALSO concluded I probably cheated because of how blatant it was”. If you think it wasn’t intentional you aren’t very smart

  • @misteranderbro2328
    @misteranderbro2328 3 роки тому +2131

    You'd think with Karl "The Legend" Jobst doing documentaries on speedrun cheaters, they'd just stop

    • @lombre9149
      @lombre9149 3 роки тому +51

      Honestly i would think the opposite "No publicity is bad publicity"

    • @lazypaladin
      @lazypaladin 3 роки тому +25

      Ngl I'd see it as a honor: *DUDE!* I just got called out by The Legend Karl Jobst!

    • @Wabajck
      @Wabajck 3 роки тому +5

      @@lombre9149 Exactly, how much growth did this person see when they started putting up those results? Maybe they'll lose some of it now but still its likely overall a netgain

    • @Fig_Bender
      @Fig_Bender 3 роки тому +4

      They are manipulating Karl into giving them free publicity, gaming the system to become infamous and get those clicks

    • @GigsTaggart
      @GigsTaggart 3 роки тому +18

      Karl said it himself in the past: They don't cheat to get faster runs, they cheat to get good runs faster. Often they are skilled enough, and feel like they deserve a better time. Short circuiting the RNG doesn't feel like cheating to them, because they feel like they deserve the run, and it's just pure RNG holding them back, something not even in their control. I'm not saying that makes it any more excusable, just, that's their thought process.

  • @_Neolidas
    @_Neolidas 3 роки тому +295

    6:20 "It's hard to fake genuine reactions to events you already know are going to happen" somehow this quote fits so well with the footage of Flow bee breaking that block and letting the piglin fall to its death

    • @Theunicorn2012
      @Theunicorn2012 Рік тому +3

      6:20 "It's hard to fake genuine reactions to events you already know are going to happen" somehow this quote fits so well with the footage of Flow bee breaking that block and letting the piglin fall to its death

    • @Purple-Popcorntm
      @Purple-Popcorntm Рік тому +2

      6:20 "It's hard to fake genuine reactions to events you already know are going to happen" somehow this quote fits so well with the footage of Flow bee breaking that block and letting the piglin fall to its death

    • @trees7878
      @trees7878 Рік тому +2

      6:20 "It's hard to fake genuine reactions to events you already know are going to happen" somehow this quote fits so well with the footage of Flow bee breaking that block and letting the piglin fall to its death

    • @Emily12471
      @Emily12471 4 місяці тому

      6:20 "It's hard to fake genuine reactions to events you already know are going to happen" somehow this quote fits so well with the footage of Flow bee breaking that block and letting the piglin fall to its death

    • @velvetunderbite
      @velvetunderbite 3 місяці тому +3

      I'm ruining this comment chain for sure

  • @sourceeee
    @sourceeee 3 роки тому +730

    Your dedication to protecting the integrity of speedrunning is nothing short of invaluable. It seems like the more people who get in to speedrunning, the more we end up coming across cheaters

    • @Suwawako
      @Suwawako 3 роки тому +7

      Jobst is such a cool dude

    • @thealarm7057
      @thealarm7057 3 роки тому +19

      It doesn't seem like it, it just is. More people means more of everything, so also cheaters of course... Common sense, use it, if the speedrunners watching this did they should have INSTANTLY know this kid was cheating from the fact that he straight up digs up 1 block next to a chest EVERY SINGLE TIME. People be dumb or what.

    • @dotRianne
      @dotRianne 3 роки тому +7

      @@thealarm7057 Buddy its a fucking strategy called mapless treasure...
      Atleast give me hate for shit that doesnt make sense, not the shit that isnt weird

    • @AndrewKellyLuthier
      @AndrewKellyLuthier 3 роки тому +7

      I mean, that's just statistics. A great example would be several years ago when people were comparing Westboro Baptist Church to ISIS. Someone took offense and noted that WBC wasn't killing people, and the response was that if WBC had the numbers that ISIS had (~30,000) that we would probably see domestic terrorism from them. If 1% of the speedrunning community cheats, we'll logically have 1 more cheater for every 100 runners that throw their hat into the ring.

    • @sourceeee
      @sourceeee 3 роки тому +4

      @@dotRianne Yo, what you did was wrong, but I don't hate you or anything.

  • @bloodprince9779
    @bloodprince9779 3 роки тому +258

    Always love how a cheater gets caught for one run, says others are still legit only to have those runs really investigated and then having to confess again a few days later

    • @coconoisette
      @coconoisette 3 роки тому +1

      When else did this happen?

    • @paisleepunk
      @paisleepunk 2 роки тому +18

      @@coconoisette A LOT, I'll say that much. Several examples can be found on this very channel, such as that Guitar Hero cheater (who used incorrect speeds when trying to cover himself up).

    • @Theunicorn2012
      @Theunicorn2012 Рік тому

      Always love how a cheater gets caught for one run, says others are still legit only to have those runs really investigated and then having to confess again a few days later

    • @Shadowstar1311
      @Shadowstar1311 12 днів тому

      Every single time

  • @TommyLamar
    @TommyLamar 3 роки тому +4410

    Glad Karl got back to his minecraft content, I was worried this was turning into a speed running channel

  • @weenies
    @weenies 2 роки тому +603

    It’s never a genuine apology of “I shouldn’t have done that” it’s always an apology of “I’m sorry I got caught”

    • @Theunicorn2012
      @Theunicorn2012 Рік тому +3

      It's never a genuine apology of “I shouldn't have done that” it's always an apology of "I'm sorry l got caught”

    • @Sinnohy
      @Sinnohy Рік тому +3

      It’s never a genuine apology of “I shouldn’t have done that” it’s always an apology of “I’m sorry I got caught”

    • @rainespiano
      @rainespiano Рік тому +3

      It’s never a genuine apology of “I shouldn’t have done that” it’s always an apology of “I’m sorry I got caught”

    • @TuturialCorp3
      @TuturialCorp3 Рік тому +3

      It’s never a genuine apology of “I shouldn’t have done that” it’s always an apology of “I’m sorry I got caught”

    • @notapplicable6985
      @notapplicable6985 11 місяців тому +9

      Combo breaker

  • @linkng7665
    @linkng7665 3 роки тому +594

    In case anyone doesn't know, there is a set seed category in Minecraft speedrun, where you can freely practice the same world over and over

    • @DarkTakanuva
      @DarkTakanuva 3 роки тому +161

      "yea but it's more impressive to get a world record on a "random seed""
      which gives us these people

    • @RGC_animation
      @RGC_animation 3 роки тому +126

      Yeah but the WR on set seed is like 2 minute lol

    • @nicocchi
      @nicocchi 3 роки тому +109

      yeah but practicing a seed requires you to be mechanically good at the game

    • @gazeboist4535
      @gazeboist4535 3 роки тому +27

      Out of curiosity, does anyone do "bad seed" runs, or otherwise pick out particular seeds (other than "optimal known seed") for different flavors of run? Or maybe have multiple runners race the same, unknown seed?

    • @Xahnel
      @Xahnel 3 роки тому +6

      Yeah, it seems to me that all he had to do was not claim his runs were blind, and his times would stand, because there was otherwise no actual cheating in game, and video edit was to remove the two frames that showed him setting his seed.

  • @nicodemos4829
    @nicodemos4829 3 роки тому +711

    "it aligns perfectly with the robotic, unemotional delivery of my videos" I'm crying Karl, CRYING!

    • @pekalicious
      @pekalicious 3 роки тому +7

      He said in a robotic, unemotional delivery XD

    • @tiedomi80
      @tiedomi80 3 роки тому +3

      This might be the most self-aware thing I've heard in a while and I am absolutely here for it. What a legend.

  • @xroark1963
    @xroark1963 3 роки тому +520

    The Mech Arena Sponsor mention has such as a great line: " It aligns perfectly with the robotic, unemotional delivery of my videos." Bravo Karl

    • @tannhausergate7162
      @tannhausergate7162 3 роки тому +27

      Glad to see someone else appreciating that line. Seems most people completely skipped over it, which is a shame.

    • @Kurachi84
      @Kurachi84 3 роки тому +9

      Such funny one i thought many would point out XD
      But i still don't need to make that comment, cuz here it is :D

    • @nileprimewastaken
      @nileprimewastaken 3 роки тому +1

      mech arena seems like a clone of war robots

    • @DashRetro
      @DashRetro 3 роки тому +1

      I often put these videos on to go to sleep, but this line cracks me up every time.

    • @aetherius6221
      @aetherius6221 3 роки тому +3

      Me when there's an ad: ⏩⏩⏩⏩⏩⏩

  • @Jincaii
    @Jincaii 2 роки тому +2014

    “Let me cheat to impress a girl… who already has a girlfriend.” Most gamer logic of the century

    • @lost-soul-anonymous
      @lost-soul-anonymous Рік тому

      Lol. LMAO even. What a nerd.

    • @I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad
      @I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad Рік тому +115

      *Incelc Logic

    • @polygontower
      @polygontower Рік тому +7

      So a gay girl?
      *Unsure of ptm but I've got it.

    • @314rft
      @314rft Рік тому

      Doing something stupid to try and win over a girl... who happens to be lesbian? Sounds like what happened to the guy who shot Reagan.

    • @symasoma
      @symasoma Рік тому +96

      @@polygontower a lesbian ptm - although top comment got me unsure if I was too tired for my own good

  • @mkjk2534
    @mkjk2534 3 роки тому +909

    Karl: Hello you absolute legends
    Cheaters: *sweat profusely*

    • @defryingpan4290
      @defryingpan4290 3 роки тому +24

      Karl: "Today we'll be diving into the weird and wonderful world of fake speedruns."
      Cheaters: "uh oh."

    • @lagg1e
      @lagg1e 3 роки тому +4

      Cheaters are not legends and do not go to leaderboard heaven. That's the most scathing thing imho. I think I could live with being a criminal, but not if I am not a legend anymore.

  • @filipefernandes8669
    @filipefernandes8669 3 роки тому +2133

    Flowbee: "I was just trying to live the Dream"

  • @lappinrappin
    @lappinrappin 3 роки тому +341

    “And I will see you in the next video”
    FlowBee: “oh crap, he was serious”

    • @Patashu
      @Patashu 3 роки тому +9

      underrated comment

    • @jagg.h
      @jagg.h 3 роки тому

      This one

    • @lappinrappin
      @lappinrappin 3 роки тому

      @@jagg.h hahah! Awesome. Well done.

  • @ARDIZsq
    @ARDIZsq 3 роки тому +111

    Going frame by frame during the clicking section shows that the "Data Packs" option is highlighted for one frame, just before the extra clicks and the world loading. Conveniently, that option is RIGHT ABOVE the "More World Options" button where, as mentioned in the video, is where a selected seed can be inputted.

  • @Ulti
    @Ulti 3 роки тому +148

    I'm always fascinated by that perfect intersection between being clever enough to do something manipulative but then being a fucking idiot and not thinking one more step ahead about how it's gonna look. I love these people.

    • @TheSweetSpirit
      @TheSweetSpirit 3 роки тому +18

      Idk, just imagine how many cheaters there are who go uncaught. Imagine, would flowbee have been caught if he made the times he achieved less extreme and acted a bit better?

    • @metaparalysis3441
      @metaparalysis3441 3 роки тому +2

      @@Aethenthebored but how long will it take

    • @IrvineTheHunter
      @IrvineTheHunter 3 роки тому +11

      I think it was a old Mario video on this channel where the guy only got caught because he bragged about his old record from like 15 years prior, so they they verified it, and it was spliced.

    • @jenniferhamels1176
      @jenniferhamels1176 3 роки тому +10

      @@IrvineTheHunter Minecraft speedrunning community is pretty huge. And if you get a top time, it is expected that run is going to get heavily looked at due to the growing skepticism made by the many cheated runs. Because there are so many variables that go into a Minecraft run, it's a great thing to know that there are a ton of skeptical people who are going to examine runs from top to bottom to make sure the integrity of legit top times is intact.

    • @lightyagami3492
      @lightyagami3492 3 роки тому

      @@IrvineTheHunter I saw that very comment you are talking about LMFAOOO

  • @TheGunmanChannel
    @TheGunmanChannel 3 роки тому +4275

    Hello you absolute legend.

  • @nill.sdrawings3403
    @nill.sdrawings3403 3 роки тому +1792

    Flowbee isnt sorry. If he was sorry he would: 1. Not do it and 2. Admit to everything the first time he got called out

    • @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli
      @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli 3 роки тому +137

      The only feeling of sorrow is the fact that they got caught.

    • @sdsdfdu4437
      @sdsdfdu4437 3 роки тому +144

      He's not sorry he did it, he's sorry he got caught

    • @Mitzi-chan224
      @Mitzi-chan224 3 роки тому +16

      Its because he's a fraud lol

    • @helljumperodst6780
      @helljumperodst6780 3 роки тому +13

      hes sorry he got caught lol

    • @lilith3133
      @lilith3133 3 роки тому +40

      I mean, that's a thing people do. The natural response for people typically when they get caught doing something wrong is to try and salvage everything they can from the situation, which while understandable, should probably be a behavior that's more commonly taught against while people are still children.

  • @10siWhiz
    @10siWhiz 3 роки тому +178

    If I were a speed runner I wouldn't cheat just for the fear of ending up having my mind pulled apart and robotically analyzed by Karl Jobst.

  • @yommmrr
    @yommmrr 3 роки тому +768

    You dont sound robotic karl, you're just extremely well spoken. You're doing a great job mate.

    • @jamesmulloy9870
      @jamesmulloy9870 2 роки тому +16

      Na he definitely sounds robotic

    • @Hellbane224
      @Hellbane224 2 роки тому +2

      @@jamesmulloy9870 Actually, he kind of reminds me of the guy from Dateline. In a way, I guess he kind of is the Dateline of video game cheating.

    • @neku2741
      @neku2741 2 роки тому +6

      He does sounds robotic but that what draws me and probably others.

    • @chunchun7493
      @chunchun7493 2 роки тому +1

      He sounds like a rlly good text to speech voice

    • @ArtVandelayOfficial
      @ArtVandelayOfficial Рік тому

      He has to talk for extremely long periods, it's not easy to sound exciting

  • @mageius
    @mageius 3 роки тому +635

    The saddest part about people splicing runs together is that it gives a really bad reputation to anyone doing a segmented speedrun even if they are clearly marking it as segmented providing a lot of evidence showing that it is meant to be a segmented speedrun and not even trying to say it's all one segmented.
    I remember seeing examples of when someone could do a proper segmented run provide all the info about when each segment was done how it was done list it as a segmented run know it wasn't going to be accepted to the leaderboard but still at the very least assemble it into one video so people can view it
    But considering the amount of times people want to use that to cheat now people tend to stay away from even doing segmented style speedruns even if it is for practice sometimes.

    • @eyeballqueenofrats
      @eyeballqueenofrats 3 роки тому +73

      I personally think that the decline in popularity for segmented runs has more to do with single segment runs being seen as more skillful because it's all done consecutively.

    • @mageius
      @mageius 3 роки тому +47

      @@eyeballqueenofrats Valid point, I'll say that segmented runs are a great way to practice some longer speedruns before doing them in a single segment.
      I mean would you want to practice anything that's over 5 hours in one go just to practice the later parts of the run or practice them them in segments. Longer runs are worth practicing in segments since you can set up different saves to represent the different ways you might get to a particular part in a single segment run.

    • @ValkyRiver
      @ValkyRiver 3 роки тому +2

      The only way to legitimize any speedrun in general is to create an entirely new category for just one run.

    • @JameyMcQueen
      @JameyMcQueen 3 роки тому +4

      @@ValkyRiver
      "Entirely new category" is too vague when it comes to a game like Minecraft, so no, that is NOT the only way to legitimize any speedrun.

    • @ng.tr.s.p.1254
      @ng.tr.s.p.1254 3 роки тому +8

      @@ValkyRiver are u having fun spamming, lil TImmy?

  • @YesIAmDavid
    @YesIAmDavid 3 роки тому +538

    When Karl said “the badabun speed run brings a tear to me eye” I literally lost it

  • @HJDSimon
    @HJDSimon 3 роки тому +62

    The thing about the 2 extra clicks in the macro just amazes me, love that there's experts who can pick up on these subtleties, really incredible stuff. So pathetic that he still tried to claim his other runs were valid after he was caught the first time. Some people are so sad. You have achieved absolutely nothing if you cheat to gain it, you can never truly be the best, no matter what it may say on a leaderboard, surprised these people don't seem to grasp or care about that.

  • @madbrosheo1514
    @madbrosheo1514 3 роки тому +559

    I find these stories so fascinating. Even though the subject matter is unimportant, comparatively speaking, it’s still so cool to see a community use real detective skills and tools to expose cheating.

  • @johanwidstrom9907
    @johanwidstrom9907 3 роки тому +635

    Oh no, it happened again!
    I spent another 15 minutes learning about the minute details of a game I don't even play or is particularly interested in.
    All because Karl is so darn likable and interesting.

    • @NinetyLegos
      @NinetyLegos 2 роки тому +9

      You make his content creating skills sound like a bad thing

    • @flynnlivescmd
      @flynnlivescmd 2 роки тому +15

      Doesn't sound like that to me. First sentence is sarcastic.
      I did the same thing. I dislike minecraft but he made this so interesting that it outweighed .y dislike for the game and now i have useless info about it in my head but worth the entertainment and that fkr getting busted.

    • @gigachaddius4444
      @gigachaddius4444 2 роки тому

      Watch wirtual

    • @Tetopettenson1
      @Tetopettenson1 Рік тому +1

      @@gigachaddius4444 I installed trackmania because of him

    • @Theunicorn2012
      @Theunicorn2012 Рік тому

      Oh no, it happened again!
      I spent another 15 minutes learning about the minute details of a game I don't even play or is particularly interested in.
      All because Karl is so darn likable and interesting.

  • @chickennugget6684
    @chickennugget6684 3 роки тому +346

    Sometimes i don’t understand why you’d say some cheated runs are actually legit when you confess about one particular run, like everyone is now reeeaaally suspicious of those now so at that you might as well admit it all.
    ...not that it fully matters since all runs you submitted are terminated if you’re caught cheating, but still.

    • @bluegum6438
      @bluegum6438 3 роки тому +56

      The only respectable thing to do is to say "Yes, I am a cheater. I am sorry. Goodbye." and leave the community.
      If it truly is a one-off, maybe you can redeem yourself, but if you've got a history of submitting faked runs just give up, dude, it's over.

    • @zackestin1368
      @zackestin1368 3 роки тому +19

      people make money off speedrunning nowadays, they say shit like that hoping their fans believe them, not to think its actually believable

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 3 роки тому +26

      @@zackestin1368 Yep. It's all about salvaging some of their reputation and the belief that if they're honest about the one they cheated on then others will think they're being honest about the ones that were "legit".
      It's logic I used to see all the time in middle/high school. Funny seeing it so much in the adult world these days.
      Newsflash, coming clean _after_ you're caught always just makes you look hella suspicious. Just as denying everything in the face of evidence makes you look super sus. When you're in that situation, you're fucked. Hence the old cheaters adage of "don't get caught"
      The best you can hope for in such situations is mercy. But mercy is often not what these people are after, they're trying to get credibility. It's children's logic.

    • @TheDJGrandPa
      @TheDJGrandPa 3 роки тому +2

      Desperation and a tiny bit of hope that the matter will be forgotten

    • @EdwardHowton
      @EdwardHowton 3 роки тому +12

      Post-truth society. Lie often enough and baldfacedly enough and people stop being able to distinguish between reality and fiction. It's like trying a Bluff check against an enemy army. _Some_ of those soldiers are going to roll a natural 1 if you tell them you don't exist. Do it often enough and you'll have racked up so many critical failures on your side that the sane people will start to wonder if _they_ aren't the ones who are wrong.
      Weaponized gaslighting.

  • @rphntw1n
    @rphntw1n 2 роки тому +164

    I think they should just make a “cheated” category.

    • @alexbrand4284
      @alexbrand4284 2 роки тому +75

      do you mean have a category where you enter in a cheated speedrun and the goal is to make it the hardest to detect? I like that idea. Then someone can enter in a legitimate speedrun, making it truly impossible to detect, which would be cheating.

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 Рік тому +9

      @@alexbrand4284the cheater’s paradox

    • @Theunicorn2012
      @Theunicorn2012 Рік тому

      I think they should just make a “cheated” category.

    • @Fezzezal
      @Fezzezal 6 місяців тому

      TAS? With slowed time and rng manipulation

    • @Shadowstar1311
      @Shadowstar1311 2 місяці тому

      Cheating % since speedrunners love using percentage where it doesn’t apply and makes no sense

  • @pandemicaunt6341
    @pandemicaunt6341 3 роки тому +2123

    The fact that he did all that "for a girl" that actually had a girlfriend is fucking funny
    Edit: my inbox will never be the same

  • @lX_DDl
    @lX_DDl 3 роки тому +213

    It’s disappointing seeing when someone cheats or fakes runs… Especially if they are valued/trusted in that community 😔

    • @user-qh8vm1me5w
      @user-qh8vm1me5w 3 роки тому +2

      @Gavin Tran Yeah sure.

    • @jonsmith5058
      @jonsmith5058 3 роки тому +12

      @Gavin Tran Literally admitted to cheating himself doofus.

    • @Fragoneryes
      @Fragoneryes 3 роки тому +36

      @@jonsmith5058 i think he meant sarcasm because he wrote flow pee p is no where near b so it probably is not a typo

    • @nileyridingus6752
      @nileyridingus6752 3 роки тому +5

      Flow Bee didn't cheat. I am one of his trusted friends, he didn't cheat. I saw the run with my own eyes.

    • @nileyridingus6752
      @nileyridingus6752 3 роки тому

      @Gavin Tran yes

  • @I_Crit_My_Pants
    @I_Crit_My_Pants 3 роки тому +149

    "Even though we all know what it's like to feel and display emotions"
    That's a rather bold assumption you're making there.

  • @mischomvous
    @mischomvous 8 місяців тому +13

    4:53: “players have to spend time learning theories, learning flawed concepts, memorizing mathematical formulas, and cultivating their spatial awareness” is not what I expected to hear in a Minecraft speed run video

  • @r-pupz7032
    @r-pupz7032 2 роки тому +184

    Man, if I was a cheater the moment people started suspecting me I'd confess, apologise, and fake my own death.
    These cheaters have nerves of steel. Almost admirable if it wasn't in service of something so shitty.

    • @kaiji4788
      @kaiji4788 2 роки тому +5

      Tbf if you are willing to cheat apologizing is pretty darn hard

    • @KatieHuni
      @KatieHuni 2 роки тому +2

      @@kaiji4788 Nah it's really not that hard in my opinion, Them admitting to their mistakes is actually better than covering up something that obviously people will suspect

    • @dukenukeman
      @dukenukeman 2 роки тому +1

      Who gives a shit its just a video game

    • @DHGxMcFlurry
      @DHGxMcFlurry 2 роки тому +31

      @@dukenukeman Cheater spotted

    • @SamuelTrademarked
      @SamuelTrademarked 9 місяців тому +2

      i'm not a cheater but faking your own death is VERY extreme for a cheated minecraft speedrun lmao

  • @lefkash
    @lefkash 3 роки тому +504

    he's being really blatant when you break it down, but I'd never be able to notice any of this myself lmfao.

    • @temporaryyoutube2062
      @temporaryyoutube2062 3 роки тому +9

      I would've noticed in 1 second from their weebery.

    • @pretzelbomb6105
      @pretzelbomb6105 3 роки тому +53

      I’m not too familiar with Minecraft speed run techniques, but I’ve played the game for years. Building the portal in lava would have made me suspicious and it spitting him out right next to a stronghold would have been a pretty big red flag. I wouldn’t be able to prove it, but I would start asking questions at that point.

    • @greedbr8158
      @greedbr8158 2 роки тому

      shut up you play league of legends

    • @JadeiteMcSwag
      @JadeiteMcSwag Рік тому +3

      @@temporaryyoutube2062 at least he is not pretending to be a girl

    • @Theunicorn2012
      @Theunicorn2012 Рік тому +1

      he's being really blatant when you break it down, but I'd never be able to notice any of this myself lmfao.

  • @KrypticWarrior2
    @KrypticWarrior2 3 роки тому +174

    formally known as "toxicflow" should have been a red flag right there

    • @peergynt9852
      @peergynt9852 3 роки тому +2

      🙄

    • @montefrancis369
      @montefrancis369 3 роки тому +1

      disagreed

    • @toxicdemon5426
      @toxicdemon5426 2 роки тому +8

      I guess by that logic im considered an asshole?

    • @EnoEso
      @EnoEso 2 роки тому +7

      can agree, if someone has "toxic" in their name, their entire body is a red flag

    • @MailMainbutnot
      @MailMainbutnot 2 роки тому +6

      @@toxicdemon5426 probably (thisisajokepleasedontkillme)

  • @MildlyIrritated934
    @MildlyIrritated934 2 роки тому +46

    The head bob gif in the bottom right pisses me off so much fr

    • @Ollimus
      @Ollimus 2 роки тому +2

      Agreed.

    • @AthenaCrete
      @AthenaCrete 5 місяців тому +13

      Genuinely think he changed his channel name/OC to try and make himself more appealing to that lesbian girl he was trying so hard to impress. From edgelord in the making Toxic Flow to a de-fanged, cutesy Flowbee? Helluva genre hop

  • @gamingandotherstuffchannel
    @gamingandotherstuffchannel 3 роки тому +42

    It is my personal belief the dancing gif at the side of the screen was placed to distract people

    • @Miju001
      @Miju001 3 роки тому +2

      It worked on me ngl

  • @wave6895
    @wave6895 3 роки тому +183

    The fact he just gave the logs is hilarious

    • @RaxusXeronos
      @RaxusXeronos 2 роки тому +38

      I mean it was either give the logs and be found out or not which would then bring up the question of 'if you're not cheating then you giving the logs should be fine right?" Either way His run'd probably be invalid.

    • @KatieHuni
      @KatieHuni 2 роки тому

      He probably wouldn't even admit it if he hadn't been exposed lol

    • @R3lay0
      @R3lay0 2 роки тому +4

      @@RaxusXeronos "Sorry I had to reinstall minecraft/windows/..."

    • @JakubMareda
      @JakubMareda 2 роки тому +4

      Presumably he didn't know the seeds are in the log, otherwise he could just change the seeds for the previous runs.

    • @alex15095
      @alex15095 Рік тому +1

      @@JakubMareda You'd think a cheater would at least open the file in notepad and search if the seed appears before sending it

  • @stevebanning902
    @stevebanning902 3 роки тому +88

    Please cover the Warzone "content creator" cheating epidemic. MOST of the big content creators in the warzone community are using aimbot or radar, or both. It's absolutely insane. Activision is making literally billions of dollars due to the content creators blatantly advertising their in game products, and the streamers are making millions by cheating at the game. It should be a MASSIVE scandal considering the amount of money that's being thrown around.

    • @Noxerpunk
      @Noxerpunk 3 роки тому +22

      That's a lost cause tbh, they can go fuck themselves and nobody would've cared, Karl's videos are focusing on cheating that are done within the realm of speedrunning and Warzone are just a whole different ballpark to dip his balls in

    • @arforafro5523
      @arforafro5523 3 роки тому +11

      Not speedrunning, Karl's channel isnt focused on cheaters but to speed running.

    • @admiraltonydawning3847
      @admiraltonydawning3847 3 роки тому +6

      Isn't Warzone also, like, f2p and effortless to restart an account?

    • @stevebanning902
      @stevebanning902 3 роки тому +9

      @@Noxerpunk It's turning into a massive industry - activision is literally making billions of dollars using these "content creators" as advertisements for their game - showcasing new skins and weapons blatantly in their gameplay footage. It should be an absolutely MASSIVE scandal. Strange you say that considering Karl is coving a market manipulation topic that has nothing to do with speedrunning, no? The COD streamers themselves are making MILLIONS from their child fanbases by literally cheating and defrauding their viewers into the illusion that they're actually THAT skilled at the game. Anyone who's played a competitive FPS game for longer than a week knows that these guys are using assistance to "up" their gameplay. It's beyond obvious.

    • @stevebanning902
      @stevebanning902 3 роки тому +2

      @@admiraltonydawning3847 Yes

  • @ProtoBlueGaming
    @ProtoBlueGaming 2 роки тому +54

    For some reason, the little Flowbee dancing at the bottom corner just pisses me off SO much

  • @Fragoneryes
    @Fragoneryes 3 роки тому +180

    Ppl with a monotone voice having the most fun voice overs and god-level humour instantly become my favourite...

    • @oskarlund1
      @oskarlund1 3 роки тому

      It’s a completely different field but if you have any interest in finance/stock market, then Patrick Boyle is a master at this kind of humor

    • @Whurlpuul
      @Whurlpuul 3 роки тому +2

      Madseason show one of the goats

    • @bbbbbbb51
      @bbbbbbb51 3 роки тому +3

      Sseth

    • @greenbruhh
      @greenbruhh 3 роки тому +4

      monotone voice = moist critikal

    • @bernds6587
      @bernds6587 3 роки тому +1

      then you must find Steve Burke of Gamers Nexus equally favorable.
      At least I do. Especially if he does videos about exploding power supplies. Or weird intel presentations. Or cases which ship with PCIe riser cables which are practically a timebomb.

  • @raz1572
    @raz1572 3 роки тому +152

    Shame on the cheaters, but it sure is fun hearing about the ways people catch them.

    • @tommytomthms5
      @tommytomthms5 3 роки тому +3

      but, can we talk about the leaderboards themselves allowing the goddamn hitbox highlighting and all that crazy f3 nonsense including whatever that pie-chart thing is in runs?!! wtf! how is that not cheating? it is literally a rule that WAS on the leaderboard requirements just a few years ago. you could not use any f3 nonsense. at all, full stop, not one frame of f3 info could apear on screen or your run WAS invalid. now they let you do the entire run using it.

    • @GeorgeSupremu
      @GeorgeSupremu 3 роки тому +13

      @@tommytomthms5 it is what it is

    • @flagrama
      @flagrama 3 роки тому +10

      @@tommytomthms5 Pretty sure it's harder to do simpler cheats with the f3 information displayed. Not sure about the wireframes tbh, but if the community decided they wanted this stuff allowed, then they wanted it allowed. That's the nice thing about the speedrunning communities, they get to decide their own rules.

    • @pc_screen5478
      @pc_screen5478 3 роки тому +3

      All the videos proving dream cheated were some of the most entertaining videos I've ever watched

    • @Kino-Imsureq
      @Kino-Imsureq 3 роки тому +1

      @@tommytomthms5 i dont think it can be considered cheating since it is a feature after all. Not even a bug or glitch it is an _intentional_ feature. If you don't like f3 then don't use it but dont force other people to not use it lol. You have world record without f3? Impressive! But don't force other people to stop using f3.

  • @FrantisekPicifuk
    @FrantisekPicifuk 3 роки тому +149

    AS a legend himself said. Speedrunners dont cheat to get a faster time, they often cheat to get a better time faster.

    • @Malgys
      @Malgys 3 роки тому +38

      That is applicable to people that are actually good, Flowbee has terrible mechanics and its obvious even to people like me that dont run the game. He looks incredibly slow with his aim and makes a ton of sloppy mistakes

    • @phutureproof
      @phutureproof 3 роки тому +4

      Stop trying to justify it, it's cheating and bad sportsmanship and pretty deplorable, cheating in a game lol

    • @forple8930
      @forple8930 3 роки тому +57

      @@phutureproof ...he isn't? he just quoted karl on *why* people cheat to begin with.

    • @nate_storm
      @nate_storm 3 роки тому +12

      FlowBee isn’t good enough for that quote to apply lmao

    • @ElysetheEevee
      @ElysetheEevee 3 роки тому +3

      @@phutureproof
      I think you should probably have a good, long think on what he's quoting actually means, because I'm positive you don't understand.
      Your reply doesn't make sense.

  • @dadeee7776
    @dadeee7776 3 роки тому +33

    It’s scary that finding out how they were found out makes hiding it easier

    • @nyctomint
      @nyctomint 3 роки тому

      Yeah, that's the way with all laws really. The justice system is built of the bullet holes of the past, and of the people with guns trying to put more bullet holes in it

  • @hungryLIKEALI0N
    @hungryLIKEALI0N 3 роки тому +32

    "I really like the mechanized style; It aligns perfectly with the robotic, unemotional delivery of my videos"
    I'm rolling

  • @robertgrindley8234
    @robertgrindley8234 3 роки тому +118

    The two categories are:
    Ones an idiot like me can spot : Ones that need Karl.

    • @harleck9119
      @harleck9119 3 роки тому +1

      😂

    • @BigDBrian
      @BigDBrian 3 роки тому +9

      Karl is more like the announcer, he's not the one that caught them. That work is usually done by the game's community, as is the case here

    • @obsidianfrost9514
      @obsidianfrost9514 3 роки тому +6

      Yup Karl doesn't Speedrun most of these games but he speaks with those that do and gets an understanding to show it for casual viewers. He's really good. And I am glad I found him learned a lot about soeedrunning communities

    • @harleck9119
      @harleck9119 3 роки тому +2

      @@BigDBrian anyways we cannot deny that he does an amazing job announcing all of these kind of stuff, putting it simple and entertaining for casual viewers

    • @JS-xh4yf
      @JS-xh4yf 3 роки тому +1

      Light the Karl-Signal!

  • @greylynco
    @greylynco 3 роки тому +83

    "So why did you become a speedrunner?"
    "It's always been a Dream of mine"

  • @dootdoodle569
    @dootdoodle569 3 роки тому +297

    He always calls his fans legends but nobody calls him a legend. I personally now want to call you, Karl Jobst, an absolute legend for making these videos and generally being an awesome person.

    • @ArnieMcStranglehold
      @ArnieMcStranglehold 2 роки тому +1

      Underrated comment.
      Many can simply call someone else a legend. Karl is a man who calls you a legend and suddenly you feel your day improve. You **feel** like a legend.

  • @csgoyuri6413
    @csgoyuri6413 3 роки тому +63

    List of absolute legends:
    1: Karl Jobst
    2: His viewers

    • @M0D776
      @M0D776 3 роки тому

      but what if Billy Mitchell is a viewer??? :0

    • @csgoyuri6413
      @csgoyuri6413 3 роки тому +2

      @@M0D776 he's still a legend... just not in the right way

  • @razi_man
    @razi_man 2 роки тому +29

    The thing is: If he just said this was a set seed speedrun, he wouldn't have been called a cheater because it would be telling the truth.

  • @Pr0phetless
    @Pr0phetless 3 роки тому +124

    I don't get speedrun cheaters.
    Community: "This run is cheated."
    Cheater: "True, but everything else is legit."
    You KNOW they're going to start digging into those. Admit to it outright and your punishment might not be as severe and most will probably forgive you over time

    • @elon6131
      @elon6131 3 роки тому +4

      eh, i'm sure it worked for someone at some point. it really just depends on how well you cheated. flowbee missed a few critical steps :P

    • @thorin1045
      @thorin1045 3 роки тому +8

      They can be pathological liers, in that case they just cannot get out of their own web of lies, even is they get caught, they just make bigger webs and believe it will hold. And many times it will hold, if not checked by very strict ways or such, sometimes even then they will get defenders that will even take the blame if possible.
      Or just they know that it is their income, if they admit everything was a lie, they may lose all of their income, so they hope they can keep some part of it.

    • @ZipplyZane
      @ZipplyZane 3 роки тому +4

      Their logic is probably that there's nothing to lose at that point. People already think they're a cheater and liar, so why not at least see if you can get away with some of it? They might as well roll the die.
      There's that one guy who got talked cheating in other games, but everyone decided he didn't cheat in in this latest game, as they couldn't find any evidence he cheated (even though he wouldn't do as they asked and show the direct connection of the console to the TV).
      I'm not saying he did cheat, but it shows that judges are willing to consider the idea you didn't cheat, even if they catch you cheating in other runs. You've already been outed as as liar and cheater, so the worse case is that you'll be outed as even more of a liar and cheater. But the best case is that one of your cheated runs sneaks by.
      It's a low chance, but not 0%.

    • @KevinLGlory
      @KevinLGlory 3 роки тому

      Why would there be anything wrong with cheating? It's only a game, and if you find out, what about it? Your ego must by pretty high to think people give a shit about your forgiveness.

    • @thorin1045
      @thorin1045 3 роки тому +7

      @@KevinLGlory ask any who caught doping if the it is only a game defense ever worked? Nobody cares if you cheat on your own game, everyone is annoyed, pissed or even angry if you cheat on an online game, multiplayer game or speedrun or similar. it is no longer just a game, it is other peoples fun too or even something more.

  • @toadfrommariokart64
    @toadfrommariokart64 3 роки тому +52

    4:47 "players need to spend time learning theory" along with a clip of couri fumbling around a fossil because he was too lazy to learn the simple patterns of fossil origin blocks lmao

  • @prawtism
    @prawtism 3 роки тому +73

    Imagine an April 1st video where he just greets us with a "Hello." 😭

    • @hauntedshadowslegacy2826
      @hauntedshadowslegacy2826 3 роки тому +12

      Imagine he changes his channel name to 'Jarl Kobst' for April 1st.

    • @MrPicklecopter
      @MrPicklecopter 3 роки тому +18

      "Hello, you pieces of garbage."

    • @jtcmule3336
      @jtcmule3336 3 роки тому +11

      @@MrPicklecopter Now that would be fucking funny

    • @Syllaren
      @Syllaren 3 роки тому +1

      @@jtcmule3336 funny... And possibly permanently traumatic.

  • @makibee2570
    @makibee2570 3 роки тому +31

    I would like to apologise on behalf of all bees for this guy

  • @jmhg92
    @jmhg92 3 роки тому +36

    It always amazes me seeing the level of detail and research some put into to validate speedruns. These are people who take things very seriously and it's always sad to see how people still try to cheat their way to the top. My respect to all these legends!!

  • @Saka_Mulia
    @Saka_Mulia 3 роки тому +70

    It's great to see "name and shame" work so decisively against cheaters. As a foreigner to minecraft I have huge respect for their community. Well done every one.

  • @imkindadumb5351
    @imkindadumb5351 3 роки тому +34

    You have probably been the single reason I’m now really into speedrunning, everything you discuss is so interesting, keep on keeping on you absolute legend

    • @brandonhughes4076
      @brandonhughes4076 3 роки тому +4

      Karl's a close second for me, after Summoning Salt

    • @imkindadumb5351
      @imkindadumb5351 3 роки тому

      @@brandonhughes4076 salts another big one for me, but karls the original

  • @wavybasilisk7330
    @wavybasilisk7330 Рік тому +13

    Fun fact:FlowBee faked his runs bcs he saw a girl called "Crystal" online and he tried to impress the girl by making these runs. However FlowBee later realised that the girl was in a relationship,meaning that he faked the speedruns for nothing and ruining his career forever

    • @EO-rx8jq
      @EO-rx8jq Рік тому

      Yeah, that's why speedrun community is probably worst than the whole Twitter and Geometry Dash together.

    • @Neoln
      @Neoln Рік тому

      @@EO-rx8jq what did I do to you

    • @polskabalaclava
      @polskabalaclava 8 місяців тому

      That’s just pathetic

  • @monsoon2763
    @monsoon2763 3 роки тому +48

    i appreciate that karl doesnt vilify cheaters or invite anyone to harass them

    • @rautamiekka
      @rautamiekka 3 роки тому +13

      That's exactly how mere news reporters are meant to act, and by 'mere' I mean they just tell how shit is and that's it.

    • @anecro
      @anecro 3 роки тому +1

      This is what every single person I've come across does though.
      Like yes, I appreciate that this creator is doing what we're expecting them to be doing.

    • @Channel-tf7ch
      @Channel-tf7ch 3 роки тому +3

      he's the antithesis of modern "journalism"

    • @rautamiekka
      @rautamiekka 3 роки тому +2

      @@Channel-tf7ch Not only him, but yeah.

    • @springtrap_66pg66
      @springtrap_66pg66 3 роки тому +1

      I don't need Karl's blessing to call a cheater a "cheater". Guy deserves to get humiliated.

  • @kirjian
    @kirjian 3 роки тому +12

    3:10 "The mechanized style aligns perfectly with the unemotional delivery of my videos" LOL Karl you goofball

  • @ForeverLaxx
    @ForeverLaxx 3 роки тому +9

    I just love that these people are so adamant that they didn't cheat only because they think their cheats are impossible to find (or no one would put in the effort to find them). You're going to a community who ritualistically and obsessively digs out every detail of a game, no matter how minute, just to shave off fractions of a second, and you expect them to *not* look at your suspicious gameplay with more than a cursory glance? I don't know if it's stupidity or arrogance that gets people to think they'll get a cheated run past real scrutiny.

  • @Joseph-mw2rl
    @Joseph-mw2rl 3 роки тому +320

    The cheater should've wrote a pastebin apology at 4am in the bathtub, saying that she "accidentally" used some illegal mods. Or better yet, hire a Harvard astrophysicist to defend herself
    *Or she can do both🙃*

    • @trainmaster997
      @trainmaster997 3 роки тому +88

      It’s a guy.

    • @kets4443
      @kets4443 2 роки тому +18

      The thing is that Dream accidentally used mods without a quotation mark and didn't know be was cheating until just before his apology. He hired a Harvard astrophysicist because he believed he was legit

    • @icp7201
      @icp7201 2 роки тому +25

      @@kets4443 I still don't believe that he didn't know. Put yourself in a similar situation:
      You are playing dice and you get double sixes 9 out of 10 throws, and someone acuses you of using loaded dice. Then you remember that you used to play with loaded dice in a casual game with friends and that they look a lot like the dice you're using now.
      But, instead of investigating the possibility that you may have mixed up the dice, you start to accuse your accuser of clout chasing, and don't rein in your rabid fanbase when they start attacking and issuing death threats to you accuser.
      That means you're either very clearly lying about believing you were not using loaded dice and tried to discredit the accusers in order to avoid a more through investigation, or you're so self absorbed and arrogant that the possibility that you made an honest mistake is so absurd to you that you never really consider it, and think you're completely justified in attacking everyone who dares suggest otherwise.
      Either way, you're a piece of shit, so it doesn't really matter, no?

    • @SevenZeroEleven
      @SevenZeroEleven 2 роки тому +36

      Or or, they can talk about how they delayed posting the run because they wanted to "fix their upload schedule"
      Cheaters make the dumbest excuses lol

    • @Heraaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
      @Heraaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 2 роки тому +4

      reddit moment

  • @Randroth
    @Randroth 3 роки тому +147

    Ah, I was just thinking about how I don't have anything to do, and this ABSOLUTE LEGEND uploads! Perfect timing Karl, always a pleasure to see a new video of yours in my subbox!

  • @marcushalberstam5327
    @marcushalberstam5327 3 роки тому +19

    I'm pretty sure at this point Karl could make a cheated speedrun so perfectly done there wouldn't be a single cough up in it

    • @Phroggster
      @Phroggster 3 роки тому +17

      The absolute legend that is Karl has enough integrity, he could start cheating everything from the get-go in second gear and no one would ever suspect him. He'd then make a video about it a day later and tell everyone else how to detect the method of cheating that was used.

  • @AndrewKellyLuthier
    @AndrewKellyLuthier 3 роки тому +9

    We really should get the speedrunning community involved in unsolved murders. Hell of an untapped detective resource.

  • @officegossip
    @officegossip 4 місяці тому +11

    His looping stream chibi anime gif is enough to drive me insane.

    • @stardestroyer81
      @stardestroyer81 3 місяці тому +2

      I'm literally watching this right now with a minimized window covering it

    • @officegossip
      @officegossip 3 місяці тому +3

      @@stardestroyer81 I put a sticky note over it lol

    • @ItzJuanG
      @ItzJuanG 3 місяці тому +1

      I've seen three streamers with that same loop why do they do that

  • @stankbootius327
    @stankbootius327 3 роки тому +96

    Karl Jobst really is the Chris Hanson of the video game industry.

    • @MacabreHouse
      @MacabreHouse 3 роки тому +34

      That's an insult to Karl really

    • @DrunkenGlums
      @DrunkenGlums 3 роки тому +5

      "Have a seat right over there... What are you doing here?"

    • @NeedyBoBeedy
      @NeedyBoBeedy 3 роки тому +25

      i hope not. chris hanson’s a weird dude

    • @TheRogueVandil
      @TheRogueVandil 3 роки тому +2

      May no one commit suicide from one of Carl's videos

    • @neoqwerty
      @neoqwerty 3 роки тому +14

      With Chris Hanson being the Billy Mitchell of TV, that's not a very flattering comparison.

  • @DonutDelivery
    @DonutDelivery 3 роки тому +30

    Ah yes, you cannot forget the legendary Big Tony’s fantastic nether strats

    • @Top_Weeb
      @Top_Weeb 3 роки тому +1

      What about Fat Ian

  • @WhiteRhinoPSO
    @WhiteRhinoPSO 3 роки тому +13

    I love your videos where the cheaters were caught because of a few skilled players with deep inside knowledge are able to notice things. The "two extra clicks" thing blew my mind.

  • @ChristofAbsolution
    @ChristofAbsolution 3 роки тому +26

    This video made me laugh.
    "Look at all these subtle things that only the elite of the elite could have caught!"
    Also
    "Yeah, he kinda got caught because he dragged himself through wet cement and was standing at the end of the trail..."

  • @gazeboist4535
    @gazeboist4535 3 роки тому +45

    Key point that cheaters should have in mind after being exposed: "admittal" is not a word.

    • @moviemaker2011z
      @moviemaker2011z 2 роки тому +5

      It's a word, it's just not an officially supported word. Basically the agreement is that it's the same as an admission by definition.

  • @freemorox5896
    @freemorox5896 3 роки тому +35

    I'm going to cheat on a speed run just so I can be busted by Karl Jobst.
    I reckon that would make me an absolute legend

  • @DylanLCutshall
    @DylanLCutshall 3 роки тому +26

    At least he admitted it though.
    Yes, we're still waiting riolu...

    • @clicheusername7182
      @clicheusername7182 3 роки тому +9

      I commented it on Wirtual's video but the thing that pisses me off the most is the BALLS on Riolu to pull the friend card. He calls out Wirtual and others for turning on their friend. But not once did he show his friends the respect they deserved by coming clean.

    • @DylanLCutshall
      @DylanLCutshall 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@clicheusername7182 Agree

    • @youuuuuuuuuuutube
      @youuuuuuuuuuutube 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah respect for the "apology and complete admittal".

  • @ZorotheGallade
    @ZorotheGallade 3 роки тому +8

    The funny thing is that if he was that committed to faking it, he could have removed the obnoxious dancing gif from the bottom right and pretend to be reacting to the ambience sounds.

  • @johnray527
    @johnray527 3 роки тому +60

    "The robotic, unemotional delivery of my videos"
    You are the best.

  • @prosack2585
    @prosack2585 3 роки тому +6

    13:07 the biggest joke now is that he comments in his own videos saying “I won’t give the log files because it has personal information”

  • @四方八方
    @四方八方 3 роки тому +44

    "The time fits perfectly with the 2 extra clicks"
    **Pursuit-Cornered* starts playing

    • @JS-xh4yf
      @JS-xh4yf 3 роки тому +7

      I'm not seeing any evidence of cheating, Mr. Jobst. *Would you point out in the video the exact frames that were cut?*

    • @Kino-Imsureq
      @Kino-Imsureq 3 роки тому +2

      @@JS-xh4yf ok but u cant explain 7 clicks
      5 clicks is for RSG configuration, 7 clicks for SSG.

  • @user-dx8ci9kv8u
    @user-dx8ci9kv8u 3 роки тому +85

    the anime gif of a girl with a bee hat having a seizure at the corner of the screen is more irritating than the cheating

    • @Amanyaze
      @Amanyaze 3 роки тому +2

      Doesn't Feinberg Use That GIF Too?

    • @SpiffingNZ
      @SpiffingNZ 3 роки тому +8

      Have to agree with you there.

  • @Sword_Man_YT
    @Sword_Man_YT 3 роки тому +44

    Maybe at some point, people will realize that they won't get away with cheating and will simply just stop doing it, I know that's wishful thinking though...

    • @thedigs8563
      @thedigs8563 3 роки тому +17

      People always get away with cheating, in fact there are probably cheaters in the top 100 rsg runs right now. they just haven’t been caught yet

    • @Rippertear
      @Rippertear 3 роки тому +5

      Eh. There's always that one outlier that goes for years without being caught- and I think there's another, different sort of glory to successfully tricking a group of people. Sure, it's bad, but there's still something impressive about it- as long as you admit it in the end, of course.

    • @kevinf8439
      @kevinf8439 3 роки тому +3

      You only catch the bad ones. It's just too easy to do.

    • @themonsterunderyourbed9408
      @themonsterunderyourbed9408 3 роки тому +1

      Then it wouldn't be interesting.
      Fun fact: ALL Olympic athletes cheat. ALL of them, bar none, no exceptions.

    • @Shellackle
      @Shellackle 3 роки тому

      The more popular speedrunning gets, the less likely that'll be to happen. Besides, there are many cases of even the highest rated players cheating and not getting caught for a very long time. The chase for clout and gaming cred is too great for most, especially after months of time sunk into a single game that still only leads to mediocre times. It's a harsh reality of speedrunning that won't fade anytime soon

  • @chtholly8084
    @chtholly8084 3 роки тому +29

    I cannot think of a sadder combination of human traits than 'cheating simping speedrunner'.

  • @Arisius13
    @Arisius13 2 роки тому +8

    I was dumbfounded at the lava portal... Didn't build it at his feet, fumbled into lava, then Blue Scadoo'd into a Stronghold and called it luck... Sure, dude...

  • @andiders
    @andiders 2 роки тому +12

    I'm impressed by the process people are going through to investigate and keep the integrity of these speedruns legit.

  • @colormetwisted
    @colormetwisted 3 роки тому +10

    My subscriptions are slowly accumulating a monotone voiced funny man for every type of content. Between Karl and Mitten Squad I got speedruns and challenge runs covered.

  • @dumbleduke4225
    @dumbleduke4225 3 роки тому +14

    I really enjoy the videos where they calculate possibilities of a run being real or faked. As more instances of cheaters are found I wonder for top players of respective communities if anyone has any statistics of people who have been found of wrong doing and if there were any trends. Might just be myself interested in such weird things but would be an interesting video. For example I imagine there might be a correlation between how quickly someone climbs the ranking and how likely they might be a cheater.
    As always Karl is an absolute legend!

  • @garagavia
    @garagavia 3 роки тому +58

    11:48 Karl goes through all this analysis to explain hidden tells of cheating for 12 minutes, and then shows a clip where he is super obviously cheating. Love it 😘

    • @xcybitt721
      @xcybitt721 3 роки тому +2

      that's the cheater's video? i'm not sure you're trolling or not.

    • @accuratejaney8140
      @accuratejaney8140 2 роки тому +5

      @@xcybitt721 They're not trolling, they're commenting on how far into the video the obvious proof is. It's like "yeah you cheated this card game. You have too little cards for this time into the card game, (insert 10-minute analysis of why this doesn't make sense), oh and I also have video proof of you handing your cards to your friend under the table."

    • @ninja_tony
      @ninja_tony 2 роки тому

      @@accuratejaney8140 I feel like all of you are totally missing the point of these types of videos. If you're implying that the clip of him cheating should be in the first few minutes of the video, that's quite literally not the point. If that was how things were done, all videos would be reduced to nothing more than a Short, which would be horrible. These videos are supposed to be a breakdown and analysis, not a summary.

    • @accuratejaney8140
      @accuratejaney8140 2 роки тому

      @@ninja_tony I didn't miss the point of the video, I found the analysis fun in fact, the other person was confused about the timestamp listed by the OP so I attempted to explain it to them.

  • @chrisfusion6945
    @chrisfusion6945 3 роки тому +5

    I hate it when streamers put animations in the corner or anywhere on screen like that. It makes it impossible to pay attention to the stream.

    • @MinecraftWillZoBoB
      @MinecraftWillZoBoB 3 роки тому +2

      idk i also think they are so pointless and annoying. Like why does it have to be there in the first place? because it is cute to a grown man??? doesn’t make sense

  • @SirProtagonist
    @SirProtagonist 3 роки тому +35

    11:40
    I just find it funny as well that the distance between the two portals isn't that great too. building it right there would have put them off course by about 80 blocks. It wouldnt have been that hard to drag themselves back onto the planned route if they just remembered portal mechanics