Mixing Drums in the Box | Part 1 - Warren Huart: Produce Like A Pro
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2019
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Thanks ever so much to everyone that watched Live! It's been a few weeks and I'm happy to be back streaming! Sorry there was an initial UA-cam issue! Go figure! Please look past it and enjoy the video! You ALL Rock! Thanks ever so much!!
You're awesome, man. Thanks for all the support given to the music comunity! You made it to Brazil!!!
@@ianbrandao8899 thanks ever so much my friend!! I really appreciate it!
Quite wondrous!
@@darlenesheffield9835 Thanks very much!!
Warren, it might be helpful to also link the drum mic pack and/or individual Lewitt mics in your description (Or for that matter, convince them to give you a discount code :) ).
What a nice example of how far a fairly minimalist processing approach takes you when you spend way more time listening to what you want to do instead of going straight into tweaking! Very cool video!
Thanks ever so much my friend!!
Hey Warren, had a laugh today after spending over an hour attempting to surgically recover this muffled kick.
when I thought I lost all hope, out of the blue, something you said years ago popped in my head about always needing to stick a super narrow cut at 110 hz on your kicks.
As a final effort, I cleared my maxed-out chain of EQ debauchery and gave it a shot and was jaw dropped how it magically salvaged it.
Thanks for that!
haven't been able to watch one of your streams in a while warren, this was great to watch for me, thank you so much!
John Petraskie thanks ever so much my friend
IM RECORDING DRUMS IN MY BEDROOM ON AN BERHINGER 1820, THE CHEAPEST SET OF CAD DRUM MICS, AND I HAVE ONE RODE NT 1A VOCAL MIC THAT IM USING AS AN OVERALL KIT MIC THAT ILL BLEND, IM VERY NEW AT THIS, STARTED TREATING THE ROOM WITH SOME FOAM TO TAME REFLECTIONS, BEEN WATCHING THIS CHANNEL AND DAVIDS ALOT THESE DAYS, AND I GOTTA SAY MY RECORDING KEEP IMPROVING, EVERY DAY ILL JUST WORK ON A SONG, MIX IT, START OVER MIX IT AGAIN, RINSE WASH REPEAT AND ITS SHOCKING THE RESULTS YOU CAN GET WITH BUDGET STUFF, YOU DONT HAVE TO HAVE TOP OF THE LINE AT 1ST ANYWAYS, WHAT I HAVE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH TO GET GOING AND LEARNING, ALSO USING STUDIO ONE PRO 5 AND ITS AWSOME!!! THANKS WARREN!!! THIS WAS A VERY HELPFUL VIDEO
i have never heard of natural compression in my life oml thank you
Really amazing video! And thank you so much for the multitracks! 😀👍
Hi Alexey, thanks ever so much my friend!!
Thanks for the amazing videos!!
You're very welcome my friend!!
Thanks for such amazing info🎶
Finally I could watch this. Thanks! Awesome livestream. Hope to be able to join next time.
Martin Luxen marvellous!!
Great video again :) Awesome skill to mix with headphones and sounds so good. Thanks again for advices. Regards :)
Thanks ever so much my friend!!
Thanks Warren and Co. for everything you do ... although scheduling conflict kept me from watching "Live" I have downloaded the tracks and will drop them into my DAW to follow along and experiment as I have time ...
Martin Frog fantastic!! Have a great time mixing!
Thoroughly enjoyed this session Warren you are amazing sir
Thanks ever so much my friend!!
I agree, preferred the lewitt on the kick.
Thank you Warren! I'm still catching up slowly but surely. Smiley!
Audrey Sims thanks!! Have a marvellous time!
As always Warren your vlog has been really informative and useful. I have toyed with idea of purchasing the Lewitt mic pack and following this will now do so. Enjoyed it thanks,!
Thanks ever so much my friend! I really appreciate it!!
I can't get the Chili Peppers "Breaking the Girl" out of my head after listening to this drum track for an hour.
thanx for the track. done a great job.
Thanks ever so much!!
enjoyed the show, i do like the presence of the the stick hit on the lower priced mics...
BopsStudios marvellous! Great to hear!
Hey Warren. Please would you consider doing a video on recording drums with totally bare minimum equipment and getting a passable sound. 3-4 mics, no samples. maybe have a little mess around with that Glyn Johns technique(one mic on the bass drum and two over the kit). would be interested to see what kind of results you get with such a setup. Im gonna start recording my drums with such a setup real soon😬
I actually just bought the Lewitt 040 match pair. Haven't tried them yet but will soon, I use 421 for floor tom, sm57 for snare, d112 for bass drum and e604 for the rack tom
Great stuff!!!
Ha ha ha.... your explanation of playing drums or how not to is priceless... thank you Warren.... you made my day once again....🤘😎
Haha thanks ever so much!!
Hey man, I haven’t said thanks for a couple of years. Thank you for what all do here.
Thank you ever so much my friend!!
Hey Warren ! What is your computer configuration?
Great video! Please consider also doing a video on mixing programmed drums such as superior drummer.
Definitely! That sounds amazing!!
It’s cool that Warren loves Logic so much that he had a 3D model of the Logic icon made to hang on his wall!
(Wonder why he uses ProTools though)
great! greetings from berlin
Berlin!!! Greetings!
Hello in Berlin!!
I meant to add , at the moment I am using my TD 30 electric kit directly into a Sapphire 56 focus rite and use a matched pair of rectangular ribbon mics as overheads with a AKG c414 as a mono room mic. I am looking at purchasing suitable mics for my DW acoustic kit hence my interest in the Lewitt set up. Through the above though I can record live bands and it sounds pretty good.
Hi Drumsand Stix1 I can wholeheartedly stand behind them! I love them and believe they are the best value for money I’ve tried in a long while!
@producelikeapro how would you mic a vibraphone?
Sir how to install waves plugins in pro tools please help me
Presonus 18/24 USB Mic Pres - Rode M5 pair overheads - SM57 Snare top - AKG Perception P220 "logo side" bass drum - AKG P170 aimed at bass drum batter head, also picking up snare side (works well) - 7 pc maple Ludwig - Zildjian/Wuhan cymbals - Remo heads Best drum sounds I've ever gotten. Really happy with the set-up.
(I'm the tape op/engineer/producer/songwriter/lyricist/singer/guitarist/bassist/keyboardist/drummer... I could use some help, lol!)
I love the Lewitt DTP 640 REX. I am thinking about buying one. What element did you use? Dynamic or condenser? O maybe mixed? There is my set: D112 and Yamaha subkick for bass drum, Beta 57 for snare top, C1000 for snare bottom (the old one with hipercardioid adapter), e940 for toms, e 914 for hi hats and ride, C 3000 for overheads (I want to buy a pair of lewitt 441 flex), a Rode nt4 for room (up the head of the drummer), a pair of Audio Technica ATM 450 for a wide room response, and a c414 XLII for a mono room. My room is not so big but it sounds really nice.
I usually use Sm57s or e609s on snare, always match and always top and bottom
On kick, i use a sE V Kick (latest addition. love it) or d112 (not my favorite) usually just one inside
vintage Md-421-2s on the toms, sometimes use the d112 on the lowest tom
Either a Cascade x-15 or 2 AKG C214s for overheads.
No room mics, the room is heavy carpet and low celing (mobile home from the 70s) so the room is a really tight sound
Cheers
nick skinner thanks ever so much for sharing your set up! It really helps our community!!
I’m going to get akg c214’s in the future for drum overheads would you advice them?
@@BoboButYouCanCallMeTom I like them, they're good for drums overheads and are versatile in the studio
Awesome video. I wish we could also hear the Lewitt collection thru the console as well as the classic micing direct thru the Audient. I wonder which makes the larger difference, console/interface or mics?
Hi Jacob White marvellous question! I have slot of videos which also use cheap mics through expensive pres. Here is a recent one with Lewitt Mucs at Hansa:- m.ua-cam.com/video/7p3ca9QPRo0/v-deo.html
@@Producelikeapro Thanks for the link. In your opinion which do you think has the larger impact on the sound, the mics or the gear behind them?
Hi Jacob White marvellous question! I would use the Lewitt mics with any pre or interface and be very happy with the results! They are the most impressive mics I’ve ever used for the money, bar none
@@ProducelikeaproSo if you had had money for only one option... would you take a 1073 with a decent lewitt (like a lct550) over a just Neumann mic into your existing interface?
Even though the giveaway is over, I'm still posting my setup.
I really dig the Presonus Xmax converters.
And Eureka channel strip... great strip on a budget. Fragile though. Don't bump it...😆 pots break if you look at them wrong. But I have extras to solder in that the Presonus support guys were kind enough to sell me.
CAD Black Pearl pencils for overheads, Audix D6 kick, just inside. 57s on snare, and toms. A very old radio shack pencil condenser with a AA battery for the hats. Old AT4033 for a room mic. Ambassador and emperor heads. Presonus Eureka fir the Kick, and another for Snare, the rest go into a Presonus D8 Digimax.
I think I get a pretty good drum sound on a very tight budget. A lot has to do with room treatment as well.
Hi Warren, I just saw in replay your video, it's extra a pure delight the sound you bravo. sign éric FROMENT = John Mc Reason
Thanks ever so much Éric!! You Rock!
Hey Warren. What kind of processing was done on the expensive set on the way in?
B-Nana Man barely anything! Just the sound of the mics and pres! The only compression was on the kick in (DBX160xt) and the snare top with an 1176
Does he finally side chain the kick and snare on 45:00? He says he is gonna do it but I think he lets it go.
GOOD BLESS COMPRESSION
GOD
Haha Yes, indeed!!
Presonus studio 18/24 interface. Shure SM57’s and old realistic PZM mics for room/overheads
Thanks for sharing!
Warren was that the board that had the “Tutti” pre-amps?
Scott Chandler yes! You are correct!
I like the "cheaper" drum sound better. Sure the "Sunset" drums sound more polished, but the "Cheaper" drums were more engaging. They sounded more natural, more like a real drum kit in a real environment. Sometimes less is more.
Even if you don't like the music I think the best Mix ever is ANYTHING off the 1990 Lynch Mob Album "Wicked Sensation" Producer/Engineer/Mixing: Max Norman, Mastered by: Bob Ludwig
Glad I invested in an Audient ID14 and ASP880 a while back. The 880 allows me to bypass the preamps which the ASP800 doesn't so I can use external mic pre or hardware units. That said, I think your figures might be a bit off as the ID44 isn't that cheap and you likely expanded it with the ASP800. Then on top of that, you had the mics. I'd say your setup is close to 2500$. Still less than what you would pay in a fancy studio though yes!
Hi Polentaccio yes, during a live stream I don’t always remember whether it was 1,500-2k or 2-2,500. C’est la vie! But yes, they sound great and I’m very impressed!
My dream would be an " Inside the song "episode together with White Sea Studios and of course the track needs to be " Darude - Sandstorm". And then he checkas your SSL desk, if it is maybe Snake Oil!;) Love u both!
Marvellous idea!!
I love mixing drums in the box, we drummers also love playing in the box (grid),hahaha..:)
Aha...I see you connected to White sea..;)
Jeroen Simons haha yes, indeed my friend!
@@Producelikeapro I feel like a: big brother is watching you- type now but, actually im not...Go Warren, I,m happy for you!!!
Hi Jeroen Simons you know me I LOVE collaboration!
I'd like to see am eq curvre for a Behringer C-1 for overheads on drums.
Just made it to ten inputs.. yea!!
RME Fireface UFX & some Mic’s (old RFT/Gefell East German mic’s) and of course standard SM57/58 or Sennheiser MD421 like that - NO U47 or 67 :)
Hi Curtis Chip yanks ever so much for sharing!
Record drums on 2 inch tape (Otari MX80), Neumann TLM 103 or/and AKG D112 on kick, SM 57 on snare, TLM 102 for overheads, TLM 103, TLM 193, KM 184 or whats left on toms and for room miking. DDA QMR mixer. Transferred to digital via Focusrite Saffire with two octapres.
Thanks ever so much for sharing!!
Hey Warren I've got a vocal recording issue, I would love to hear your take. A singer I record is always complaining about the level/sound in her headphones. I never seem to be able to give her enough volume even when it's pumped. Also she wants to hear the vocal with FX, reverb etc as she says that's what she had back in the day. Surely the vocal should be dry and unaffected when tracking focusing on the raw performance? Obviously in the box the system can't process and playback the vocal with FX when recording. Have you ever encountered this with a vocalist wanting a 'playback' sound when recording? Isn't an engineer who gives a vocalist reverb when recording engaging in bad practice?
A little reverb helps the singer with their pitch! If your current system can't handle putting some reverb in her feed, a hardware reverb or a monitor mixer with an FX section could be an inexpensive zero-latency solution.
X32 console, usually 10-16 mics on the kit. Room is a converted garage but it works well. Chord im07s (57 copies) on all the shells, sound practically identical
Ryan Jordan fantastic! This is great information! Thanks for sharing!!
White Sea Studio rocks.
Electric Owl Works yes! We love him here at PLAP!
Sounds like a good candidate for a sprinkle of Beat Detective.........
No it does not
Yes it does.....the tom tom groove section is pretty bad really.....
Cornbob Rimlove It really isn’t. If you want to kill it with a grid, have at, but I prefer imperfections. They’re human.
Hi Cornbob Rimlove I’m happy with how the Bass, Drums and guitars interact! That’s most important! Not many drummers of old would survive if music had to be gridded!
Thru a behringer ufx board with 12 busses but only 4 preamps, so i have to use another cheap behringer board to pass throu The preamps, not Great but it Kinda works 😅
Hi Björn Hanses as long as you get great results that’s wonderful my friend!!
"how's look ?" Well, video looks great...you Sir...looking very tired . lol
Tony Franklin...... Blue Murder..........John Sykes
Yes! Amazing!!
1:12:18 I hit the like way before that
Thanks for the tracks, ewwtube just can't do them justice.
Yes, thanks for downloading them!!
That's what I use. There was no exact plan to collect these mics, this just happened )
Kick In - AKG D112
Kich Out - Heil PR40
Snare Top &Bottom - Heil PR22
Hi Hat - Rode NT3
Toms - Heil PR28
Center Overhead - MXL990
Left Overhead - Beyerdynamic Opus83
Right Overhead - Beyerdynamic TG153
(I don't need a matched pair cause reflections in my room are different left from right anyway)
NO ROOM MICS (the room is small, so I would use digital room reverb or use stairway as chamber)
And these go to my old trusty YAMAHA 02R Recording Console.
Mikhail Loginov thanks ever so much for sharing your insight with us!!
Who disliked Warren's video..😐🙄
Haha it's quite alright! Just the 'experts'! The ones telling me I'm doing it wrong!
@@Producelikeapro hey Warren.. you just made my day by replying to me. You inspire me alot and thanks for being marvelous..
@@atrakkzz3527 you're very welcome my friend!!
Props to White Sea and their Snake Oil videos
Yes, indeed David!
When your ON and you don't know it.
haha yes, indeed my friend!!
It's amazing how great the drums sound in the full context of the band. Solo'd, even with great mixing, they are kinda flabby awful 70-ish sounding. Mixing is voodoo, I tell ya.
Shit, I missed it? (Sniff)....I guess I'll ...... (sniffle) . . . watch it....(whimper)..........not live.
I wanted to hit like but I already did :'(
volga ılgız karadağoğlu haha thanks!!
I’m always suprised that you use a D112...Never liked that mic...so many better mics for kick.
Hi Timothy van der Holst haha yes, me, Michael Beinhorn, Dave Jerden etc etc. Just one of those things! I’m not an expert, just use the gear I know how to make sound good!
@@Producelikeapro And mic placement, type of gear... It,s relative eventually....Try the akg d112 on floortoms Timothy and then buy an audix d6 ...;)
Everybody is an expert on how you do your own things. The D12 was my first mic, in the 90’s I was happy with my D112 but then I discovered the Beta 52 and that’s the one I’m still using. Then I saw you using the D112, so I thought, let’s try it again, but no, doesn’t work for me.... But Now I’m wondering about the Lewitt....😀
Hi@@socialbeats1 Interesting, people usually dislike the D112 because they find it too scooped (they still prefer the D12), the Beta 52 is even more scooped sounding. So your dislike is coming from the opposite place of most arguments against the D112 I read and hear. If you like the Beta but want something less 'metallic' sounding, then I would suggest the Sennheiser e602, it's wonderful! If however, it sounds like you prefer a more hyped sound, so try the Audix D6, that really is even more agressive than the Shure Beta 52.
Hi@@drummerjeroensimons Yes, I agree it sounds as though Timothy likes a more aggressive scooped sound and the Audix D6 is all that and more!