Top Signs Your Mix Isn't Ready for Mastering | Are You Listening? Season 6, Ep 4

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  • @jayburd1875
    @jayburd1875 Рік тому +164

    This is great. The idea of comparing Lufs to rms is gold.

    • @apollon11
      @apollon11 Рік тому +17

      I appreciated the whole video, but that explanation in particular. There's an expanding community of DIY producers/musicians who really appreciate this level of clarity.

    • @bloodyharprecords4910
      @bloodyharprecords4910 Рік тому +6

      Literally was about to say the same thing. Everything is great here but that alone is amazing insight

    • @cwestmont
      @cwestmont 2 місяці тому

      Yes. Around the 11 minute mark.

  • @cccchristo
    @cccchristo Рік тому +110

    This video is not about mastering, it’s a mixing bible. Top notch content guys

  • @AutPen38
    @AutPen38 Рік тому +36

    There are lots of wannabes and so-so mixing/mastering tutors on UA-cam, but this guy is the real deal. He has the knowledge, but is also a great sharer of that knowledge. A brilliant teacher!

  • @GloveBunniesVideos
    @GloveBunniesVideos Рік тому +19

    That momentary/RMS LUFS comparison tip is really, really helpful. Thanks so much.

  • @dom._t8365
    @dom._t8365 Рік тому +35

    Studied with John in college, one of the most insightful audio minds I’ve ever come across. Always a treat to learn from him!

  • @kelvinfunkner
    @kelvinfunkner Рік тому +5

    every single point was absolutely "on point" and golden. not one of them was "filler" or peripheral....really solid advice!

  • @tekis0
    @tekis0 Рік тому +5

    While I've heard some of these points before, this video is very well organized and has zero hyperbole. I'm bookmarking it for reference.

  • @OilRacki
    @OilRacki Рік тому

    Finally, someone who explains everything in plain English. I'd love to have Jonathan Wyner as a teacher.. very detailed, but easy to follow what he's saying.

  • @dilemmaEDM
    @dilemmaEDM 3 місяці тому +1

    wow. This advice was pure gold. Brilliant and extremely eloquently put. Especially the bit about comparing LUFs to RMS and the transient-sustain relationship in the low end.

  • @ghfjfghjasdfasdf
    @ghfjfghjasdfasdf Рік тому +2

    One of the best audio resources online imo - absolutely stellar knowledge being shared with the community here… all for free.
    🤟❤️🤟

  • @TarasKuznetsovMusic
    @TarasKuznetsovMusic Рік тому +13

    This is extremely helpful!
    You can basically write down all these key points and turn them into a roadmap of mixing! And don’t touch the mastering until you’re through all these checkmarks!
    Great great advice! Thank you guys!❤

    • @iZotopeOfficial
      @iZotopeOfficial  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! Yes this we agreed this is a must-have checklist 🖤✅

  • @nethercords
    @nethercords 11 місяців тому +2

    most of these problems can be addressed with a compressor on the master bus, the caveat here is, you need to know what youre doing with the the compressor levels and presets otherwise you can easily do a homerun and end up at first base again. done correctly, you will finish off with a much more balanced mixdown.

  • @MarkWildman_
    @MarkWildman_ 2 дні тому +1

    Great watch and information. Good insight about crest factors

  • @ansoncheong
    @ansoncheong Рік тому +1

    The concept of combining Lufs and RMS is so insane!!!!!

  • @itsbittynow
    @itsbittynow Місяць тому

    thank you for this mixing checklist! especially that divergence tip! where mixing and production and arrangement all meet. music is both a science and an art.

  • @notNickNorton
    @notNickNorton Рік тому

    This is the most useful explanation of LUFS I've ever heard

  • @gisellechacon7081
    @gisellechacon7081 Рік тому +11

    These have all been very helpful! Being an engineer/producer, I find I often need to "boost" a track to make it sound right to clients. But knowing a little about mastering, I feel more confident that I'm not destroying the mix we worked so hard to create. Thanks, Jonathan!

    • @nacnudselrahc420
      @nacnudselrahc420 8 місяців тому

      Yeah people don't really know what dynamic range is often times. I didn't know what it was either before learning about it, so putting myself in their shoes I can understand why people think that Mastering is just making a song as loud as possible. When I first started music production, I would make my mixes extremely loud

  • @werkdatdancefitness
    @werkdatdancefitness Рік тому +62

    I like the series but it would be great if we were shown examples of him mastering a track with the tips he's describing.

  • @SiQuemaCuhh
    @SiQuemaCuhh 3 місяці тому

    Measuring the sub sonic information with insight was something i never knew to get better tonal balance. Great video

  • @hayden_hanna21
    @hayden_hanna21 Рік тому +7

    God, these videos have been so helpful. Just finished up my ep, and have used these videos in assistance to mixing and mastering it myself!

  • @johndoe_1984
    @johndoe_1984 3 місяці тому +1

    11:08 here I learnt something

  • @davidlecam7665
    @davidlecam7665 9 місяців тому

    At last, good advices regarding finishing a mix before mastering. Best video I saw on this subject.

  • @shizumaruofficial
    @shizumaruofficial Рік тому +4

    Good timing as I am mixing a new song!

  • @andrewbarber9266
    @andrewbarber9266 6 місяців тому

    Amazing information. I have just learnt so much in this video that many courses that I have done just wash over. Example you explain what the issue is and the equipment to use but also why and how it works. The meters for example I know what measure to set to, but never knew why and what the difference was until now.

  • @Prodbykidjake
    @Prodbykidjake Рік тому +1

    What a fantastic series name. Sometimes I genuinely am curious, ARE THESR GUYS EVEN LISTENING BEFORE THEY SEND ME IT

  • @akumusik3582
    @akumusik3582 Рік тому +1

    Gratitude & Appreciation💯

  • @AcousticWisdom
    @AcousticWisdom Рік тому +9

    Such a wonderful series! love it. It may seem basic, but a subject often overlooked is just a track with acoustic instruments or maybe only guitar and voice. The dynamic range and LUFS are different and from the tonal balance measurements I’ve done with my favorite recording they can be really different . Would love to see a video dedicated to mastering just Bluegrass, folk, solo singer songwriter and things of that nature that don’t use drums or electronic instruments.

  • @titiracoon267
    @titiracoon267 Рік тому

    So useful tutorial ! What I like with them is that it's very professional for everyone, not only the iZotope users... May be, in addition to all the problems you mentioned, I would have added the "space balance" : if you notice during the mastering that the placements of sources in the space, -dry or wet with reverb or delay (short or long)-, it's too late. No software or magical trick (even the fabulous post-production suite !) will be able to efficiently correct what has been done (without defaults). You have to adjust the mix before mastering.

  • @sharadshirali1546
    @sharadshirali1546 Рік тому

    Very helpful tips. Tackles many points hitherto not discussed anywhere else.

  • @Sekhmet1Songstress
    @Sekhmet1Songstress 9 місяців тому

    Excellent tips! I'd say go hunting for the distracting background noises as a first step... That said I once discovered a computer beep on a bass track after the event, and I ended up liking it! 😆

  • @IWOKEAGIANT
    @IWOKEAGIANT Рік тому

    A tutorial which you can tell is genuine, brilliant advice.

  • @phynyxsound
    @phynyxsound Рік тому

    10:32 best way possible to explain LUFS vs RMS!

  • @ridcomics9364
    @ridcomics9364 Рік тому

    I have learned so much from your channel watched hundreds of hours really like the way you teach new composers how to mix and master the right way thank you so much.

  • @nethercords
    @nethercords Рік тому +1

    high frequencies can be safely cut at 10k hz during mixdown, and other more problematic sounds may require more cutting, by the time it gets compressed side chained and mastered it should sound very clean :-)

  • @thejawshop-AdventureRecording

    Well that cleared out the fog. Thanks Mr Wyner

  • @lushkordz6643
    @lushkordz6643 8 місяців тому

    i love this guy he is so 💎clear in his explanations ...
    i feel like i've learned more here than in a decade 🚀
    no doubt this pure gold 🏆🏆🏆

  • @LETTMusic
    @LETTMusic Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the continued insights. I've definitely become more cautious about points 4, 7, and 8, all from one concept, the Fletcher Munson curves or equal loudness contours. I know from those curves that areas like the subs and highs come out more and more in the mix the more we crank the volume up. So if something like 808s or kick drums or hi hats sound loud in the mix when listening at quiet volumes, they are going to blow your ears out at loud volumes. I've been a lot better about not just trying to add too much low end or high end to my mixes knowing some of that will naturally come out just from turning up the volume knob.
    But I never really thought much about comparing LUFS to RMS in point 9. I think some people try and use LUFS as a shortcut to trick themselves into thinking they are hitting a loudness target, but they aren't addressing the different frequency areas in the mix that contribute to those numbers, or thinking about what areas of the mix increase perceived loudness. Definitely going to start paying more attention to RMS going forward.
    Love these videos. I've learned so much from this series.

  • @Anders01
    @Anders01 Рік тому

    I love doing my own "amateurish" mastering, for practicing purposes. And the Ozone master assistant is useful for rough balance I have noticed. When the assistant gives a reasonable flat EQ then the mix is fairly ok in the frequency spectrum. But yes, the levels of the drums and bass for example compared to the rest of the mix, that can be tricky.

  • @PereRevert
    @PereRevert Рік тому +1

    Jonathan, your content is more than awesome. Keep posting these please... by the way, I would love to watch from you an in depth video explaining the differences (advantages) of IRC and their different modes from Ozone 10 versus other well-know limiters with constant release times. Thanks!

  • @anthonylee3311
    @anthonylee3311 Рік тому

    Thank you Jonathan, you are a master of your craft and a great teacher

  • @rodolfoalejandroparadapint5107

    I just found gold here.

  • @themastroiannis
    @themastroiannis Рік тому +1

    excellent, wonderful informative series! absolutely top notch! so very useful...
    would love to have an episode devoted to jazz and folk where there is way more dynamic range, peaks, transient attack variation, etc. and you want to keep it that way. thanks so much!

  • @Light-zu1ys
    @Light-zu1ys Рік тому

    This is gold!!! Tysm!!! And the cat T-shirt is wonderous 🐱

  • @DimeDCSGO
    @DimeDCSGO Рік тому +1

    This video as mine blowingly amazing and informative. Thank you for these videos

  • @roberthunt1540
    @roberthunt1540 Рік тому

    His description of the needle drop . . . like explaining this ancient technology to a new generation. "In my day, we had plastic disks that went round and round and a pin connected to a wire and it was in a cartridge and . . . ah, forget it. It's too complicated,"

  • @davidringo9238
    @davidringo9238 Місяць тому

    Awesome stuff! Thanks doc.

  • @BoboLearns
    @BoboLearns Рік тому

    Absolutely valuable knowledge, so many key questions flagged out for checking your mixing status. Thanks So Much!

  • @JunkHeap
    @JunkHeap Місяць тому

    Really good video. Great advice.

  • @christopherecatalano
    @christopherecatalano Рік тому

    All of these tips are so perfectly explained with clear examples. Superb video.

  • @na_der
    @na_der 4 місяці тому

    11:26 GOLD!!!😳

  • @mitomarwick
    @mitomarwick 5 місяців тому

    Very clear breakdown..refreshing..

  • @Thinman63
    @Thinman63 3 місяці тому

    Fantastic video. Thank you thank you thank you

  • @leonardojul
    @leonardojul 2 місяці тому

    This video is pure gold guys

  • @dfizzbom
    @dfizzbom Рік тому +8

    I gotta say, neutron 4 and tonal balance have really been an ear opener to me. Tonal balance is so useful that I'm double backing and re-mastering tracks (mastering for me being an admittedly loose term). But that's the point and that's why tonal balance is working so well for me. Being linked with N4 and Ozone back in the mix is the eco system I need, man. I'm 60 and my ears range from kinda hearing properly to at times pretty skewed. These videos make a point of not overtly pushing izotope at every turn but I have become an even bigger fan this month with the sales and loyalty discounts to grab the extra tools. Long time Ozoner and now the other tools. Love these videos - thank you. Izotope though, thanks for having my back.

    • @nethercords
      @nethercords Рік тому

      Neutron 4 is mindblowing...A great addition to Ozone9. I use ozone for my mixdowns and now i have a post mixdown phase where i try to extract more of those artifacts and gems within my productions

    • @iZotopeOfficial
      @iZotopeOfficial  Рік тому

      Anytime, Dfizzbom! Thanks for watching and letting us know how much our tools have helped you.

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 Рік тому +1

      Tonal balance control taught me (particularly in regard to my older mixes) that my ears cannot be trusted! It's great as a sanity check, as I sometimes think my bass is too quiet (or too loud) and TBC will tell me I was wrong!

  • @dfallchild
    @dfallchild Рік тому

    Fantastic video. Proper understanding of the mastering process helps push back on the mix better than anything else.

  • @loopthemoon
    @loopthemoon 7 місяців тому

    Excellent crystal clear advice. Many thanks :)

  • @andybreshears
    @andybreshears Рік тому

    Really enjoyed this! y’all nailed it! Going to test out some of these tips tomorrow during one of my home sessions.

  • @cbparker44
    @cbparker44 11 місяців тому

    Great information. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @kyledenmead_
    @kyledenmead_ Рік тому +1

    This is great thanks guys

  • @charliekey2979
    @charliekey2979 11 місяців тому

    Great content, thank you a lot for such a great information.

  • @Limit5482
    @Limit5482 Рік тому +2

    This season fantastic

  • @dkny0072
    @dkny0072 7 місяців тому

    Pure gold this channel

  • @robertgaudreau2520
    @robertgaudreau2520 Рік тому

    This is a great video on levels and the meaning between each type RMS Momentary, LUFs....

  • @Shterndok
    @Shterndok 4 місяці тому

    great video!! very clear guidance! thanks much

  • @abcdubeatmaking
    @abcdubeatmaking Рік тому

    I love all of your video ,your work are realy usefull
    Thank you

  • @66fitton
    @66fitton 7 місяців тому

    Subscribed and bookmarked! Next level stuff here! Thanks!🙏

  • @stevensavoie856
    @stevensavoie856 День тому

    The intro would have me hyped for the episode if it didn’t last several times longer than the hype feeling.

  • @nayanmirza2507
    @nayanmirza2507 Рік тому +2

    Great episode 🙏

  • @ThompaThelin
    @ThompaThelin Рік тому +1

    This was really useful , thx

  • @LordBiffMusic
    @LordBiffMusic Рік тому

    What a great intro. sound as well as visually

  • @jdizbeats
    @jdizbeats Рік тому

    Thanks for dedicating time to share your knowledge with us. All of this is is very helpful.

  • @trummelbach6065
    @trummelbach6065 Рік тому

    Fantastic video! Thank you very much!

  • @aemythjensen
    @aemythjensen Рік тому +1

    I want Jonathan's t-shirt. I have 2 cats and they're always near me when I'm working on my music.

  • @personalwatching9312
    @personalwatching9312 Рік тому

    Wonderful. Thanks. Loved the lufs vs rms knowledge.

  • @rachelraspberry1761
    @rachelraspberry1761 8 місяців тому

    Wow. That was so helpful!

  • @kahyui2486
    @kahyui2486 Рік тому

    1:37 i find that using a VU meter to get the reference and your mix sounding same level. Just match them to roughly the same measurement on the VU meter

    • @egeozel80
      @egeozel80 5 днів тому

      I think the issue is perceived loudness, when I do that in a psytrance track, the reference with the same level is really burning as explained there. So that is a relief for me to hear that leveling reference with an element to one's track makes sense for me while we are doing our first mix and master currently

  • @rogerstarz
    @rogerstarz 14 днів тому

    pure gold

  • @kevinsavo718
    @kevinsavo718 Рік тому

    So straightforward. Thanks!

  • @YoungLitHippy
    @YoungLitHippy Рік тому

    Dang, I’ve learned so much today

  • @pype720
    @pype720 Рік тому

    This was a good video and very timely for me. I am trying to finish my mix and move on to mastering so I can use this a checklist tor that process. Thanks for defining terms like sibilance and speaking plainly. The tonal balance piece is very interesting and something I need to start focusing on. I will definitely be measuring and comparing LUFS with RMS.

  • @machineagevoodoo2106
    @machineagevoodoo2106 Рік тому +1

    Wavelab FTW! :)

  • @NightscapeProduction
    @NightscapeProduction Рік тому

    Great tutorial, I learned a lot thank you!

  • @El-Peje
    @El-Peje Рік тому

    Thank you. I needed to hear this

  • @eroero830
    @eroero830 Рік тому

    That snare transition sound effect is really jarring. I zone in listening to the audio guy's chill voice and true facts and then have some annoying noise in my ear telling me the topic's changed. I don't want it, the chill audio guy can tell me that by talking about a different topic.

  • @Exaltation-heliacal
    @Exaltation-heliacal Рік тому

    Learned melody takes the lead in 88’.

  • @sj4267
    @sj4267 Рік тому

    This one is soooo helpful!

  • @gabrielomondi4630
    @gabrielomondi4630 26 днів тому

    Great tips

  • @consciensnesttv
    @consciensnesttv 3 місяці тому

    BANGER VID RH!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @iamkxtv
    @iamkxtv 7 місяців тому

    This was gold 💯🙏🏿

  • @JurgenSchlei
    @JurgenSchlei Рік тому

    Great tutorials! Thank you iZotope!

  • @LordBiffMusic
    @LordBiffMusic Рік тому

    very helpful !!
    i wonder whats a good peak to rms ?
    peak at -5 and rms -10, something like that?

  • @richardbradley5936
    @richardbradley5936 Рік тому

    Fantastic and ver practical insights...many thanks

  • @Georgie_B_
    @Georgie_B_ Рік тому

    Hiya, enjoyed this! Also, just wondering what audio interface and speakers Jonathan’s using here? Thanks!

  • @JulesMugisha
    @JulesMugisha Рік тому

    I'm loving these tips.

  • @leonardocaminati6432
    @leonardocaminati6432 Рік тому

    Great video! Jonathan is an awesome teacher!

  • @lakeshatheman3106
    @lakeshatheman3106 Рік тому

    I love your shirt bro!

  • @stuartsmith5146
    @stuartsmith5146 Рік тому

    Thank you!

  • @lostee2001
    @lostee2001 Рік тому

    Thanks again

  • @nelsonriches
    @nelsonriches Рік тому

    Excellent!

  • @stevenbarnard
    @stevenbarnard Рік тому

    That TShirt!! Where is it from? 😻