I dont think that because i think it´s 3M VHB Tape. And this tape is very strong. With this tape are the outer panels of the Walt-Disney Concert Hall taped. (According to the website of 3M)
If you just join the spoiler to the body with a piece of that electrical tape in the centre, then cut it with a craft knife at the join, it can serve as a perfect alignment marker when you expose the adhesive.
For application cleaning the best would be isopropanol - No residues and evaporates quickly :) and primer has an influance - Its a kind of booster So it’s not influencing final bonding strenght but increases the speed of bonding (the guy used instead different pretreatment - heating up - same effect :)) spoiler looks great - highway in Germany is waiting for you Bjorn :)
Is that for cars with the optional £3700 upgrade pack? I'm looking at getting the base level performance model, but would love to be able to just add the spoiler to unlock the higher speed. Even better, if the base level performance model is including the spoiler.
Not a single human being can see a 2mm difference in a 2m spoiler, and also, its pretty hard to be that precise, so being exactly centered is kinda impossible
his application process seems better than Tesla mobile techs, at least in terms of minimizing corner lift. The heat gun and holding and pushing the corners in is a good touch.
The top speed unlock only took 15 Minutes at Tesla in Hamburg, Germany. I drive a fairly empty Autobahn every day and have only managed 250 km/h until I had to pass cars again (I'm not comfortable passing at those speeds). The M3P doesn't give the level of confidence at those speeds compared to the German 3. It doesn't feel like on "rails" as those. What's great is the awesome acceleration after traffic clears, which leaves those others in the dust.
I could tell at the beginning that the spoiler wont be centered. You should not mark the position that way. Its not precise enough. Instead one should put a piece of tape on the spoiler and a piece on the trunk (both should be in line and almost touching). Once the spoiler is precisely centered you take a pen and draw a line from one to the other piece of tape. That line is now your indicator. One should also not completely pull the red backing of the double sided tape prior to positioning it on the trunk. Instead pull just half an inch of the backing off and fold so it sticks out from under the spoiler (in the video you see that the red backing sticks out already). Position the spoiler precisely. If the position is correct - pull on the piece of backing that sticks out. The double sided tape will be exposed. The guy who installed your spoiler had no business doing it for you. He had no idea what he was doing.
9:27 - 13 cm at the right side. 9:39 - 13 cm at the left side really, as well: measure the lower edge of the tape, even if the cm scale is at the upper edge this time!
@@cawfeedawg warming the material up is to get it softer, so the risk of no attached areas is less. I would also use the 3M primer, because the job of a spoiler is to produce downforce and this ist not a few grams.
9:42 Actually the spoiler sits perfectly in the center. To measure the exact same distance on the left side, you should have looked at the lower side of the measuring tape, not the top. - If you extend the 13cm mark down to the inch scale you are at exactly 13cm. So the spoiler is perfectly centered. - Great job!!
Would have used that primer just to be sure. Extreme heat and high pressure is coming to Europe and that in combination with the stress of 261 km/h can make some impact..Anyway,good luck.
Mine came without spoiler, too. But it‘s NOT been locked - so it did 250 from the start. However, last time I checked the car „only“ reached 248, not 260 as it should after the power increase. It‘s been warm weather and some power limit showed up for a short while. SoC has been around 50% as far as I remember.
And also the bit where he wiped the bottom of the bottle with the (not very clean looking) rag that was then used on the car, what if the bottle had been sitting on some grit, why did it need to be wiped? I suspect Tesla service have a full size template they clip to the car for quick/accurate centring, that was even alluded to with the talk of the "tool".
Also noticed, grabbing the surface after cleaning.... Also....measuring 12,5 and 13 cm to the sides, which needs a correction of 0,25cm. „We got to move it just about an inch“ 😁
Adhesive only spoilers never stay on, they always start to pull off eventually. The problem is many hours in hot summer heat causes adhesive to loosen over time.
He initially had 13cm on the left, and 12.6cm on the right, and then he ended up the other way round :) He even said need to shift it by an "inch" :):) More like 2mm
@@adrian.farcas It's not really 13 cm at 4:37. The end of the tape measure is about 1.5 mm from the spoiler's end, it seems. So it's more like 12.7+1.5=12.85. It's not really discernible how much it is at the left this time. Then he moves it to the left by ~5mm. But then again, he puts it back a little bit to the right after removing the blue foil of the 3M sheet. Ending up 13 cm at both sides at the very end, I think. :)
Guybrush Threepwood he said 12,5 cm when it was more Close to 13.2 cm, because he measured too long from the spoiler and in the left side he measured correct.
I want my White Seats to show on the car and screens. I know it might look awkward on some the display but at least in the app! Glad to see MC Hammer is in his final form with all the power!
About that mounting, the guy made a basic mistake when measured on the left side, he didn't put the measuring tape perpendicular to the gap, hence the small difference. But that isn't a problem, I would gladly keep it for me and wouldn't realign it! 😊
There's different levels of double sided tape. 3M VHB tape can do 4 kilograms per centimeter of bonding force. Double sided tape can be basically made as an epoxy.
Bjørn Nyland you are right that the Nokian Hakka Black 2 are rated for 300km/h; but these are summer tires, right? Or do they have a winter version too? I watched your Finnmark trip videos from just a handful of days ago where you mentioned you had kept the winter tires on and assumed that you were still with those tires. As far as I know all winter tires have a speed rating of 240kmh because the winter tyre silica rubber is a bit weaker than regular rubber and is thus risky at high speed.
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@@lastlondon Finnmark roadtrip happened a month ago, for that he kept winter tires on just in case. Of course he has summer tires now
TBH, pretty sure Bjorn wanted to advertise them guys and their shop as an alternative for authorised tesla shops, but the way this guy fixed this spoiler.... meeh
No. I didn't want to wait two months for an appointment at Tesla service center. Didn't you watch the part where Tesla told me that they didn't have the tool for mounting it?
Could you find out if you can get the speed unlocked on the Performance model with the 18" wheels/standard brakes fitted if the spoiler is attached? Thanks. O/T: You must be getting sponsored by McD at this point. ;) Agreed on BK being better but still not great. Maybe you can post a review of "Max Burger"?O/T I'd prefer pizza. :)
EU Bike Dude , I wonder if this is EU only. I have the performance model 3 without the PUP. I have the 18”aero’s and standard brakes. In March I received a SW update that included “Track Mode”. In early MAY I received another SW update that included “High Speed Performance Increase” the release notes said, [“ Your car is now able to maintain torque and power for longer periods of time when driving at high speeds. The top speed of your car has been increased to 162 MPH ( 260 KPH ) “] There is no mention about needing the Spoiler on the back for the speed increase. Hence, I wonder if it is and EU only requirement.?
Wow I didn’t know they locked the top speed of the car without the spoiler. I did find it strange that during the spoiler install the car had a software update.... but Tesla didn’t mention anything to me about increasing the top speed. Good to know.
Why do you have to take it to a service centre for the upgrade if its done over the air? Is it because they don't trust the person who fitted the spoiler!
Lucky Bastard! I got my P3D last September, and I still have not get the spoiler and the badge. They kept saying my turn will come when I get a message in inbox. What the heck!
A complete backup of the old software and replacement of all the ECU software in a Saab, could be done in 20-30 minuttes, 15 years ago. So Tesla has a lot of catching up to do, if it takes 2.5 hours to look at a spoiler and flip a software switch.
I believe the update is fast but they just took your car in 1st so that you can go to do your thing. This way can reduce some % of complaints for waiting too long.
Now that his Tesla Model 3 has detected a spoiler and has the new software update the car goes: Calculating route to Germany..... your destionation: AUTOBAHN! Now it begins the feeling sitting in an ICE1 or ICE2 (Intercity Express) German highspeed train with almost max speed. (280km/h on 300km/h highspeed routes) In short your car is faster then an ICE1 and ICE2 and even an ICE-T highspeed train but ICE1 and 2 will overtake you at max speed. Now you have 39km/h left in difference for ICE3 level of 300km/h.
If the software would recognize it, Bjørn wouldn't need to take the car to the service center for them to do the upgrade, in which a person sees the sploiler and then unlocks the max speed
@Guybrush Threepwood Norway has no debt. On the contrary, It has over US$1 trillion in assets, including 1.3% of global stocks and shares, making it the world’s largest sovereign wealth fund.
@@CoolSilver I've being using car washes for 7 years on my current car. No scratches. But I was led to believe Tesla paint is not as hardy. Something to do with environmental concerns on chemicals in California.
Always Remember.... With great power comes.... The Autobahn!!!
Great Responsibility!
@@maazahmed9010 you just ruined the joke
spoiler doesnt show in drive mode?! .. literally undrivable
Valve pls fix!
Volvo no help, only Helga
“...it’s not necessary to use this...” 2 days later on German Autobahn: *plopp* spoiler gone. 😂
Matthias Friedrich this is a gutsy guy... 260km/h, famous UA-camr... 😬
I dont think that because i think it´s 3M VHB Tape. And this tape is very strong. With this tape are the outer panels of the Walt-Disney Concert Hall taped. (According to the website of 3M)
SHIEEEET
+Matthias Friedrich I already did 262 km/h several times. No problem.
Zoom Zoom!
Warning!!!!!
Spoiler Alert.
straight from a facebook comment
@@badreddinefjr9785 lmao yea
ههههههه
The force is with you now young Bjorn. Use it wisely :-) .
Bjorn Ironside
If you just join the spoiler to the body with a piece of that electrical tape in the centre, then cut it with a craft knife at the join, it can serve as a perfect alignment marker when you expose the adhesive.
Hehe, I did exactly that 1 hour ago to my car on 3 locations on the spoiler. Just ripped the tape with my fingernail.
For application cleaning the best would be isopropanol - No residues and evaporates quickly :) and primer has an influance - Its a kind of booster So it’s not influencing final bonding strenght but increases the speed of bonding (the guy used instead different pretreatment - heating up - same effect :)) spoiler looks great - highway in Germany is waiting for you Bjorn :)
At 1:19 Make sure to smack the car with the spoiler before you install it
12:20 Agree about MAX burgers. As a tourist in Oslo it was just about the only food I could afford. The spicy vegan "no-chicken" is great!
The Swedish people know what they are doing lol
See you on the deutsche Autobahn 👽, i am the driver of the Slow Model 3 on the right side 😂
13:48 It's a park spoiler. Enhanced parking performance! lol
M3P's launched in the UK 2 days ago came with them pre-attached and the cars allegedly are unlocked.
Is that for cars with the optional £3700 upgrade pack? I'm looking at getting the base level performance model, but would love to be able to just add the spoiler to unlock the higher speed. Even better, if the base level performance model is including the spoiler.
“As long as it’s centered, it’s centered....” But it wasn’t centered! No excuse for not measuring a little more precisely instead of eyeballing it.
Not a single human being can see a 2mm difference in a 2m spoiler, and also, its pretty hard to be that precise, so being exactly centered is kinda impossible
The spoiler looks incredible on the white model 3. I like 👍🏼
his application process seems better than Tesla mobile techs, at least in terms of minimizing corner lift. The heat gun and holding and pushing the corners in is a good touch.
The top speed unlock only took 15 Minutes at Tesla in Hamburg, Germany. I drive a fairly empty Autobahn every day and have only managed 250 km/h until I had to pass cars again (I'm not comfortable passing at those speeds). The M3P doesn't give the level of confidence at those speeds compared to the German 3. It doesn't feel like on "rails" as those. What's great is the awesome acceleration after traffic clears, which leaves those others in the dust.
I could tell at the beginning that the spoiler wont be centered. You should not mark the position that way. Its not precise enough. Instead one should put a piece of tape on the spoiler and a piece on the trunk (both should be in line and almost touching). Once the spoiler is precisely centered you take a pen and draw a line from one to the other piece of tape. That line is now your indicator. One should also not completely pull the red backing of the double sided tape prior to positioning it on the trunk. Instead pull just half an inch of the backing off and fold so it sticks out from under the spoiler (in the video you see that the red backing sticks out already). Position the spoiler precisely. If the position is correct - pull on the piece of backing that sticks out. The double sided tape will be exposed. The guy who installed your spoiler had no business doing it for you. He had no idea what he was doing.
Dude - your videos are awesome! No B.S.! I switched from a Model 3 Long Range to a Model 3 Performance because of you! Thanks!!!!
+ib crypto Awesome!
Helga is waiting for you Bjørn! Show her your Hammer!
9:27 - 13 cm at the right side. 9:39 - 13 cm at the left side really, as well: measure the lower edge of the tape, even if the cm scale is at the upper edge this time!
I would heat up the trunk before attaching
@@cawfeedawg warming the material up is to get it softer, so the risk of no attached areas is less. I would also use the 3M primer, because the job of a spoiler is to produce downforce and this ist not a few grams.
9:42 Actually the spoiler sits perfectly in the center. To measure the exact same distance on the left side, you should have looked at the lower side of the measuring tape, not the top. - If you extend the 13cm mark down to the inch scale you are at exactly 13cm. So the spoiler is perfectly centered. - Great job!!
I would have taped in place then pulled away red tad while applying pressure. That's why it comes with the tabs on.
Would have used that primer just to be sure. Extreme heat and high pressure is coming to Europe and that in combination with the stress of 261 km/h can make some impact..Anyway,good luck.
Imagine Doug Demuro and Björn doing a quirks-review of a car!!
Mine came without spoiler, too. But it‘s NOT been locked - so it did 250 from the start. However, last time I checked the car „only“ reached 248, not 260 as it should after the power increase. It‘s been warm weather and some power limit showed up for a short while. SoC has been around 50% as far as I remember.
*cleans surface*
3:45 *puts hand on surface*
And also the bit where he wiped the bottom of the bottle with the (not very clean looking) rag that was then used on the car, what if the bottle had been sitting on some grit, why did it need to be wiped?
I suspect Tesla service have a full size template they clip to the car for quick/accurate centring, that was even alluded to with the talk of the "tool".
Also noticed, grabbing the surface after cleaning....
Also....measuring 12,5 and 13 cm to the sides, which needs a correction of 0,25cm.
„We got to move it just about an inch“
😁
1:18 that's when i cringed !
@@Steil-o they are used to cm, just like most people. I dunno why he used inches though lmao
Adhesive only spoilers never stay on, they always start to pull off eventually. The problem is many hours in hot summer heat causes adhesive to loosen over time.
Jason Wiese not true at all
Jason please leave the internet
The installer is out by 1.5 mm. He should have set the distance from the spoiler to the edge to 128.5 mm, not 130 mm.
The moment he put it on it was clear he messed up but he continued
He initially had 13cm on the left, and 12.6cm on the right, and then he ended up the other way round :) He even said need to shift it by an "inch" :):) More like 2mm
@@adrian.farcas It's not really 13 cm at 4:37. The end of the tape measure is about 1.5 mm from the spoiler's end, it seems. So it's more like 12.7+1.5=12.85.
It's not really discernible how much it is at the left this time. Then he moves it to the left by ~5mm.
But then again, he puts it back a little bit to the right after removing the blue foil of the 3M sheet. Ending up 13 cm at both sides at the very end, I think. :)
MC Hammer just got hammered with a spoiler :)
@4:54 I hope what was cut in the edit, was him triple checking the measurements!?!?
@@stressballer He moved it by ~5 mm.
I would definitely use the Primer, at least on the corners, they tend to lift after a while.
I love the guy's creative english skills :D
Deutschland here we come! Can't wait to see you hammer your upgraded Model 3!
U got faster charging too so that's nice. V3 charging will be great
That was the most annoying way he measured at 4:30, way off LOL
Guybrush Threepwood he said 12,5 cm when it was more Close to 13.2 cm, because he measured too long from the spoiler and in the left side he measured correct.
Yes, but the end result is somehow almost exactly 13 cm at both sides (even if he measures the left side wrong this time again). :)
I want my White Seats to show on the car and screens. I know it might look awkward on some the display but at least in the app!
Glad to see MC Hammer is in his final form with all the power!
13:49 ninja spoiler!
Have you checked whether the real one actually gets invisble too?
Magic hood activates while getting the job done.
+Legominder This is the real one?
I saw him blow it calculating the center measurement in his head. He should have measured again after repositioning the spoiler.
Great job guy. Nice pro install.
Something else is also growing... wooo.
The spoiler didn't need to be centered, Tesla did.
Looking great, drive safley
Any noticeable difference in efficiency or handling?
About that mounting, the guy made a basic mistake when measured on the left side, he didn't put the measuring tape perpendicular to the gap, hence the small difference. But that isn't a problem, I would gladly keep it for me and wouldn't realign it! 😊
The spoiler is of by a good 3 mm!!🤪😁🤪 How can you sleep at night!? Sheeet!!!
It's not.
If the difference is 3mm then it's actually off by 1.5mm
Ooooh, test trip coming soon then. :)
It is hard to believe that a spoiler attached using double sided tape can generate decent downforce at high speed.
There's different levels of double sided tape. 3M VHB tape can do 4 kilograms per centimeter of bonding force. Double sided tape can be basically made as an epoxy.
Autobahn here we come!! Woohoo!
When are you planning to do the soundproofing?
Don’t forget to remove your winter tires as they don’t manage more than 240km/h
+lastlondon Really? Google for Nokian Hakka Black 2.
Bjørn Nyland you are right that the Nokian Hakka Black 2 are rated for 300km/h; but these are summer tires, right? Or do they have a winter version too?
I watched your Finnmark trip videos from just a handful of days ago where you mentioned you had kept the winter tires on and assumed that you were still with those tires.
As far as I know all winter tires have a speed rating of 240kmh because the winter tyre silica rubber is a bit weaker than regular rubber and is thus risky at high speed.
@@lastlondon Finnmark roadtrip happened a month ago, for that he kept winter tires on just in case. Of course he has summer tires now
Very nice. Did this spoiler survived the carwash
Lithuanian hey from latvia
Excellent superb video
TBH, pretty sure Bjorn wanted to advertise them guys and their shop as an alternative for authorised tesla shops, but the way this guy fixed this spoiler.... meeh
No. I didn't want to wait two months for an appointment at Tesla service center. Didn't you watch the part where Tesla told me that they didn't have the tool for mounting it?
Lucky. I’ve been waiting 10 months in the US to get my spoiler.
Could you find out if you can get the speed unlocked on the Performance model with the 18" wheels/standard brakes fitted if the spoiler is attached? Thanks.
O/T: You must be getting sponsored by McD at this point. ;) Agreed on BK being better but still not great. Maybe you can post a review of "Max Burger"?O/T
I'd prefer pizza. :)
EU Bike Dude , I wonder if this is EU only. I have the performance model 3 without the PUP. I have the 18”aero’s and standard brakes. In March I received a SW update that included “Track Mode”. In early MAY I received another SW update that included “High Speed Performance Increase” the release notes said, [“ Your car is now able to maintain torque and power for longer periods of time when driving at high speeds. The top speed of your car has been increased to 162 MPH ( 260 KPH ) “]
There is no mention about needing the Spoiler on the back for the speed increase. Hence, I wonder if it is and EU only requirement.?
Wow I didn’t know they locked the top speed of the car without the spoiler. I did find it strange that during the spoiler install the car had a software update.... but Tesla didn’t mention anything to me about increasing the top speed. Good to know.
Dear Turbocharged Dude: Unless you live in Germany, it is not legal to drive this fast. Maybe that is why they didn't tell you.
I live in California and have yet to see a model 3 with a spoiler until this video.
This video should have been named “Spoiler Alert!!” Shiieeeaaattt!
Whats the point of limiting the top speed for a spoiler that doesn't even produce downforce
Bjørn living my dream. Still spoilerless here. 😔
Spoiler alert! Looks good!
You beat me to it. :)
@@ylette pure luck...no talent involved 😁
I don't know about this stuff, does a spoiler that small really make a noticeable difference on down pressure?
On a car like a tesla that is very slippery through the wind, this tiny spoiler probably produces several hundred kilos of downforce
@@cybervand At what speed would it produce a few hundred kgs of downforce?
@@wy3131 wouldnt know about teslas but even at 100kmph the spoilers produce enough of an effect to make a noticable difference
Why did you need a software upgrade for an installation of a spoiler?
Why do you have to take it to a service centre for the upgrade if its done over the air? Is it because they don't trust the person who fitted the spoiler!
That would be a visual inspection/confirmation by a Tesla technician. For the unlock, I assume.
Is it posible to unlock come to me function like in ametica?
Lucky Bastard! I got my P3D last September, and I still have not get the spoiler and the badge. They kept saying my turn will come when I get a message in inbox. What the heck!
Can't wait for top speed
9:40 You should have measured it diagonally from the edge of the spoiler to the corner of the trunk.
What the total cost for the spiler and the performance software update ?
Great video like all. Where do you bought it?
Included with the car.
@Bjorn - Do you have to pay for that switch upgrade? Does it also apply on Standard Range M3 or just the performance?
I'm currrently in Norway, and now every time I see a white model 3 I think it could be MC Hammer.
was that spoiler Oem?
2.5 hrs still days faster than ICE top speed unlocking....hehehe
Actually flashing software on an ice car can be faster lul
A complete backup of the old software and replacement of all the ECU software in a Saab, could be done in 20-30 minuttes, 15 years ago.
So Tesla has a lot of catching up to do, if it takes 2.5 hours to look at a spoiler and flip a software switch.
@@CommanderKingpin "can" which is eventual .
I believe the update is fast but they just took your car in 1st so that you can go to do your thing. This way can reduce some % of complaints for waiting too long.
Tesla should provide a simple jig to ensure it's centered.
They likely do for the service guys, hence the "tool" they were saying they didn't have.
Does the speed update applies to the long range M3 with an aftermarket spoiler?
Be careful ! We need u! Get a helmet and double check those tyres before the 261Km/h run!
Now that his Tesla Model 3 has detected a spoiler and has the new software update the car goes: Calculating route to Germany..... your destionation: AUTOBAHN! Now it begins the feeling sitting in an ICE1 or ICE2 (Intercity Express) German highspeed train with almost max speed. (280km/h on 300km/h highspeed routes) In short your car is faster then an ICE1 and ICE2 and even an ICE-T highspeed train but ICE1 and 2 will overtake you at max speed. Now you have 39km/h left in difference for ICE3 level of 300km/h.
"something else is growing, ooooo"
Will the backup camara get let dirt with the spoiler??
MAX burger FTW (and im from Denmark, so i have to get it in sweeden) :)
Tesla: We don't have the right tools!
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What you don't have a heat gun?
Spoiler alert! They put the spoiler on successfully.
So can you take the spoiler off or will they know?
daaaaaaamn !!
honestly the body lines with the spoiler look a lot better to me for some reason....
so this is a stealth performance?
If the spoiler is only sticked to the back of the car, how does the Tesla system recognize it?
If the software would recognize it, Bjørn wouldn't need to take the car to the service center for them to do the upgrade, in which a person sees the sploiler and then unlocks the max speed
Watch the full video
They have to get software upgrade through tesla service
Wait, double sided tape?? I thought spoilers had to be bolted/riveted onto the body
Nope
regulation for that primer so 3M can get paid.
Is this an aftermarket spoiler ?
Original
!!! Spoiler Alert !!!
Where is Bjorn?
Is it only for model 3 or ?
I asked tesla a couple of times in Germany, but they sayd it will not be possible. Can you help me?
Something else is also growing...
@Guybrush Threepwood Norway has no debt. On the contrary, It has over US$1 trillion in assets, including 1.3% of global stocks and shares, making it the world’s largest sovereign wealth fund.
He can it go thru car wash?
Probably but why scratch your paint when you can hand wash
@@CoolSilver I've being using car washes for 7 years on my current car. No scratches. But I was led to believe Tesla paint is not as hardy. Something to do with environmental concerns on chemicals in California.
The MAGIC SPOILER disappears !!!! Bwaaaaahahahaha !