I investigated child abuse for 20 years during my career. The general public would be amazed at instances where children are either intentionally or unintentionally coached to accuse a parent of abuse. These accusations almost always occurred during a messy divorce or separation. Sometimes the coaching accusations were obviously intentional. At other times, the parent may suspect something and then ask the child leading questions. After a few leading questions, the child is agreeing with the person asking the questions. Before long, the parent and child have convinced themselves something terrible happened and the snowball occurs. At times the parents get so caught up in their perceived betrayal, they forget about what it is doing to the child. This is not to discount that children are abuse, because there are many children who are abused. A qualified forensic interviewer should always be used when interviewing children who may be abused. They are qualified to pick up on those subtle responses that may indicate a false allegation. However, no one is a mind reader and in the end, children must be protected, even when there is not enough probable cause for an arrest.
@@ichibonfriend2923 98% of rape/sexual assault claims are LIES. It's also a tactic that's used against MEN in divorce. Mia Farrow was thoroughly investigated and deemed NOT credible. ALSO Woody's other son says $MeToo is bullshit and his brother Ronan is racist & antsemitic and is deliberately targeting Blacks & Jews for false accusations. FACT!
@Roodi Graffoodi hearsay my friend. Add in daily coaching which Nanny Thompson witnessed and quit over and the fact that Groteke told Thompson she regretted saying 20 minutes when it wasONLY five. And this is also in Thompson’s Affidavit given to the Court. It never happened. There are three liars. Mia, Ronan and Dylan.
Mia Farrow’s brother spent approximately a decade behind bars for the sexual abuse of two very young boys...... there’s something very strange about this entire Mia verses Woody thing. What a mess.
I'd say in general it's probably not a good idea to marry your stepdaughter, even if she is significantly younger than you and adopted. That alone would insinuate the likelihood of guilt to me. But, hey, that's just me. I haven't seen the documentary because I don't have HBO. But I've always found it kind of disturbing that he married his stepdaughter. That's just weird.
@@nicolej615 Woody didn't have more resources than Mia, Mia had very influential friends, in particular she did things like try to get Frank Sinatra to put out a hit or assault on Woody Allen. Soon Yi and Allen started hanging out because Mia wanted Allen to start becoming more acquainted with the children of hers that weren't from her partnership with Allen. That's why they didn't have a father-daughter relationship, Allen didn't spend a lot of time at Farrow's residence and Soon Yi was often with her father Andre Previn. After starting to meet up they began to bond over Mia's abusive behaviors and came into a loving relationship afterward. They remain married to this day and have two adopted daughters that have only good things to say about their parents.
I don't really understand how a child is supposed to be believed then? The mum should continue a cordial relationship with the child abuser so as not to seem vindictive? And I don't get why allen's proven creepy actions with the daughter he married and the many reports of him acting creepy with Dylan don't count as evidence for him having these tendencies. I feel like we're too ready to excuse the creepy behavior of creepy men and try to find some benign explanation, when most of us know what normal parenting and a normal relationship between an adult and a child looks and feels like.
By the same token, you seem to be ready to excuse the testimony of other children in the family that reported that Mia was heavily coaching all of them. I agree with Dr Grande here. This story is too fishy.
@@andyiswonderful yeah, but Dylan is a grown ass woman now and she never changed her story. And it’s kinda fucking important what SHE has to say. Let’s not make her into some helpless child by assuming that she was manipulated by her mother. She is almost 30 now. She is a grown woman, with her own power and agency. This is something that dr Grande seems to have forgotten. I’m not saying that this situation is black and white, but there are so many excuses made for a man who married another adopted child of Mia Farrow.
@@nicolajane7389 if only we lived in a society where a woman's testimony was treated as fact and the rights of men meant nothing smh it's so unfair how a man can accuse a woman of abuse but have to provide evidence and yet if the situation is reversed and a woman accuses a man of abuse, she also has to provide evidence! How sexist is that?!
@@thereal4113 Yeah, we had a psychiatrist that we consulted with once a month related to work and one day he casually mentioned that when he's had group counseling sessions, he's heard women casually mention sleeping with Dad. Sleeping in the bed with dad, as in it was so annoying when Dad would snore and wake me up. They acted like this was absolutely normal. Because when you're a kid, whatever is happening in your family is normal.
Is it so inappropriate to sleep in a bed with your dad whencyou're a kid???? He's your dad! I know there are sick parents but being this walled off from physical affection isn't everybody's culture.
@@Mehki227 I'm pretty sure that a kid sleeping in the same bed as his or her parent is pretty normal. Pretty much everyone I know has gone in to their parents room at one point or another to sleep with their parents.
Yeah usually I agree with him. He's totally off on this. Investigations on child sexual abuse was not exactly gold standard in the 80s. Child psychology research had completely changed how and when children are interviewed, he's acting as if this is contemporary. Dr. grande left off that most children do not lie about abuse.
I really enjoy Dr Grande but find him so off on child abuse cases. His review of Kelly-Anne Conway’s daughter was off. Not saying Allen is guilty, but plenty of predators offend casually and never get caught, particularly powerful men.
@@rockugotcha the police told my mother that while there was no physical evidence, and therefore would be no prosecution, that they suspected abuse and would not put me back in the situation. That was in the 90s. I believe or maybe just hope the attitudes of the police would be much different today.
Sometimes this type of abuse is not always evident. A five year old can understand the word “game” and not understand this trusted adult is doing something wrong to them. Many of these people are clever and creative. I wasn’t, I was playing a game...
They can also understand the concept of getting someone in trouble and be hesitant to speak against someone they love even if they’ve been abused. I’m so sick of children being ignored based on people thinking they’re too young or that they’ve been “coached” somehow. People have no clue how difficult it is to talk about this shit even as an adult. Also yeah just because there’s no physical evidence of abuse doesn’t mean there was none. What physical evidence does a touch leave?? None, but the psychological effects can last a lifetime.
@katie Abrahams the absence of evidence does not provide the evidence of absence, nor does it “thoroughly debunk” the claims. Edited due to wrong person tagged ops
@Katie Abrahams I can admit that I love some of his films but these accusations are 100% credible. Also, his marriage to Sooni at *minimum* proves that he has a gross attraction to women that at his age, he could be a father to. I wonder if you’d change your opinion if you did a little more research and see what you find on the other side of the argument. I hope you have a good day💖
Don't feel bad. Mia Farrow has 14 children, 4 of whom she gave birth to with at least two different fathers; and another 10 she adopted over the years, three of whom have since died. Some of her children were also adopted by the partners in her life, others were not. You really need a large sheet of paper and several magic markers to figure it all out.
You don't think the themes of Allen's work (older man with much younger woman) and his relationship with SoonYi lean toward the idea that he could have been "grooming" Dylan? I think it's pretty likely that he groomed SoonYi. She was "barely legal" when the nude photos were discovered. But I understand the importance of the presumption of innocence and reasonable doubt.
@@whychoooseausername4763 she may have been 20, but her actual birthdate was never really known. She was an abandoned child and they just guessed. Also, its documented that when she was first adopted, she couldn't speak any language and had learning disabilities. Soon Yi herself has stated that she started spending time regularly with Allen when she was a junior in high school although, allegedly, the sexual relationship didn't start until after she graduated.
When you say that he made movies about Allen with "younger women" don't forget to point out Manhattan is about a relationship between an older man and child. The girl is 17 in the movie.
Exactly. Manhattan was always a movie that creeped me out. Very indicative to woody Allen as a person. That’s not the only movie of his that involves significantly younger women.
And the actress Mariel Hemingway was actually 16. And Woody tried to get her to go to Paris with him. She declined when she realized they would be sharing a room.
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What is horrible in this..Romans and Greeks had a common practice of marrying within the family. In Hindu mythology and Islamic culture it is openly practised. He did not marry his blood, the barriers and taboos are for people who are emotionally and intellectually suppressed. Not everything in a relationship like that is sexual or perverse, that only shows the mindset of people who point fingers.
@@rishabhaniket1952 You can’t take examples from the ancient Greeks and Romans to justify a modern day act. Don’t forget about the people who it affected, the way which Mia discovered the photos. Read my comment fully though, the words WOODY said in the documentary helped for me to draw my own conclusion.
I just finished part 4 of the documentary. It's hard to really know 100% what happened but Allen seemed like a slimy guy who had boundary issues to begin with.
And why, then, knowing this, did Mia ALLOW him to be in her (their) life? When this happened, in the early 1990s, I read Maureen Orth's account in Vanity Fair. While allowing for the possibility that Allen is guilty of sexual misconduct with Dylan, I was appalled that Mia didn't have the sense, the strength, the morals, to kick Woody out of their lives...IMMEDIATELY! Instead, she tells all these instances of Woody's odd, inappropriate, and yes, SEXUALIZED behavior toward Dylan, yet, all the while, allowing Dylan to run around naked, or just in her panties, KNOWING Woody was too intensely focused on Dylan. I think Allen and Farrow are both strange. I don't know if Woody touched Dylan's private parts in the attack or not. I DO know that Mia had concerns about Woody's behavior with Dylan and failed to side...immediately with her children! Why? She loved being one half of New York's intellectual/artistic/cultural "power couple". She loved the fancy vacations, the money, the roles in his films, maybe the sex, the companionship. Even AFTER accusing Allen of abusing Dylan, she wanted to star in the MOVIE they were working on! He told her she was "nuts" (she is) and called Diane Keaton to do it instead. Again, I agree with Dr. Grande, there is reasonable doubt about Mia's claims. I don't think either Allen or Farrow are particularly stable or moral people. If Mia had been such a protective mother, imho, she would have not brought him into her huge family without being married. She would have filed for divorce when he (allegedly) put sunscreen slowly, through the cracks of Dylan's naked buttocks...and the kids would be wearing CLOTHES!! My parents never had my sister and me running around topless as kids. It is immodest. I sound old fashioned and, when it comes to family, I guess I am. Mia was starstruck and power/fame addicted and that's why she stayed with Woody despite her concerns. Thank you, Dr. Grande, for another excellent analysis.
I agree. But LEGALLY, it was never proven BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. People often confuse heavy emotional topics with actual legal guilt and this case is a real example of that. While I believe Dylan wholeheartedly, if I was on a jury with this evidence I would not be able to convict him.
I can’t get over him marrying what essentially was his stepdaughter. My husband is not my girls biological father and if he married one of them, I don’t know what I would do.
WA and MF were never married. My guess is that both are atheists though Mia had some sort of reckoning post-Soon Yi and Woody and got some of her 14 kids Baptised. They always maintained separate apartments. It is sad that now nobody sees Mia's flaws...only Woody's, even though, I find both of them highly suspect and deeply flawed.
@Loulou Bos that's a technicality... he was seen a father figure growing up... so you think it ok to sleep with your gf daughter after she graduates HS??? Because that's what he essentially did... just because he didn't put a ring on it doesn't mean he didn't comfort he like a father growing up etc.
@@donnaross5105 I agree with you there. She is flawed. She came off really strange and her playing the videos she made of her daughter were really tasteless. He relationships with her children also seem off. I truly feel bad for all of them.
@@Somegirl811 It wasn't. It was Mia Farrow's attic in her country home. He'd made a big deal about how he couldn't and wouldn't have ever gone in it because he's a claustrophobe and a germaphobe. But his hair was found in it.
@@Catbooks A hair is not like blood, semen or saliva because it can easily be transferred from one location to another, either on purpose or by accident. Even if it wasn't planted there by Mia, it could easily have been brought into the attic on someone else's clothing.
Grooming is a feature of every relationship. If there is no grooming then you are not in a relationship. So you are basically just saying he's a charismatic person. Other extremely manipulative groomers include Donald Trump, Barack Obama, Joe Rogan and Dr Todd Grande.
Isn't 'grooming a term used for pedophilic predation (hence predation of prepubescent children)? In what sense can a young adult be "groomed"? That seems to be an expansion of the idea that trivializes child abuse and also negates a young woman's ability to choose a consensual relationship for herself. A middle-aged man dating and marrying women who are decades younger might be sleazy by contemporary standards, but "groomer" seems like an exaggeration here.
@@judyives1832 Exactly, and it is women with this this kind of cavalier attitude, which is why you cannot count on mom or women to protect children. Too often, they turn a blind eye, they don't believe their own children, and either actively or passively are participating in the abuse of their children. We read about it every single day in the newspaper and you're right, it's disgusting.
@@unitedfools3493 You're of course completely right but don't expect many thumbs up here lol. Even though you are replying to a comment that specifically says "young WOMEN", not children, you are still going to get a barrage of comments telling you that grooming kids is wrong and kid molesters should be shot. That's UA-cam comment section for you.
Long prior to the affair with Soon-Yi coming to light, Mia and others had concern over Woody’s bizarre behavior with Dylan. He was obsessed with her, always with her, taking her aside etc...In all of the photos, little Dylan looks miserable! The psychiatrist confirmed it was inappropriate behavior and No didn’t confirm sexual abuse but there wasn’t necessarily literal abuse at that point; he was grooming her the whole time for years. She says he used to stick his head in her lap and breathe deeply, teach her how to suck his thumb! She gives spontaneous detail of the situation; not a rote retelling as if she was coached. The experts concluded no evidence of coaching. I just think Woody’s fierce PR and legal teams did a number on Mia, portraying her as a bitter, scorned woman. I think he’s guilty as can be!
Yes, yes, yes! Also, I think others may have different experiences with 7yr olds than I do! I could never convince or coach my 7yr old to lie so smoothly and consistently. Dylan has a PHYSICAL reaction to those memories. Could they be contrived? There is alot of reasonable doubt here because WA hired a powerhouse PR and law team, who got to work right away with probably every resource at their fingertips. I don't think that fact should me minimised. Powerful men have gotten away with terrible things since the beginning of time.
@@zarinahs of course you couldn't convince them to lie consistently. That's why her stories weren't consistent and still aren't. Are we just going to all pretend that there wasn't a panel of experts in childhood SA who spent months looking into this to determine that her stories didn't add up and weren't rooted in reality? Everyone who has made claims painting him as a creep conveniently are friends of Mia and somehow never had anything bad to say until Mia started her campaign against him. It's easy to find friends who will back someone up, Woody has plenty on his side too. That doesn't make good proof. Over the years Dylan's stories have varied drastically and she has said multiple times during the investigation that nothing ever happened. When she first went to the dr. with Mia, and was pushed to tell what happened, she said that Woody touched her shoulder.
The experts had 3 possible options. 1) she was actually abused. 2) she made the story up, out of confusion or distress or for attention 3) She was coached into telling the story. The experts concluded that she was not actually abused! This is the key part everyone overlooks. They did not have enough evidence to claim that she was coached, only that her stories were untrue. None of the stories made sense or added up, and were wildly inconsistent, and the behavior she exhibited was not in line with a child who had suffered from sexual abuse. To use the conclusion of the experts that there was no evidence of coaching as proof that he committed the crime when his name was cleared is honestly absurd.
@@tikusblue The mere fact that he puts his face in her lap and obsesses over her, WHICH ARE KNOWN FACTS, is abuse! Of course he went beyond that but even if he didn’t, he’s a creep and shouldn’t be left alone with children.
@@Lulu-kt6gr There's no "of course." Can't stand Allen and I think he's a selfish creep. But I don't think he abused Dylan as she and Farrow have claimed. You should also be aware of the morally shady past of Farrow. She had an affair with an older married man, whilst she was friends with his first wife, who felt bitterly betrayed. Farrow went on to marry Andre Previn, who is the legal father of Soon-Yi, and the man she first knew of in a fatherly role. Both Soon-Yi and Allen have claimed that Allen wasn't any kind of father to her etc., but of course they'd say that. Still, it could be true as Soon-Yi first lived with Farrow and Previn, and Allen didn't come into the picture until Soon-Yi was older. Even then, he never lived with them, and he and Farrow maintained separate residences. And with so many children, with different fathers (Farrow had biological twins with Previn, as well as adopted ones), it would be conceivable that Soon-Yi didn't spend much one-on-one time with Allen at all. I mean there were a lot of kids of different ages around. And there have been stories of Farrow's abusive and manipulative behavior towards her children - way before all of this, going back to before the Soon-Yi affair scandal broke. There's also been instability and tragedy (arrests as teenagers, AIDS, suicides) in the lives of Farrow's adopted children. There have been stories that Farrow favored her biological children, especially doing upon young Ronan to the exclusion of the other kids. When I was a really young child, I almost fell prey to the teenaged son of a neighbor. My parents wouldn't have believed it even if I'd told them then, which I didn't. They trusted our neighbors a lot. But I never told them because I had no clue really what exactly was wrong. I didn't realize being so young, not even 5, that I was being groomed, so I couldn't even have explained it in a way that conveyed a threat, even if I had the vocabulary. Anyway, so I'm not insensitive to the victims of such abuse. But I don't believe that it happened. I think Farrow convinced Dylan that it happened. Farrow exerted a lot of control over those children, and I can see exactly how they could be brainwashed into believing something false. In fact, I remember my father once trying to convince me that I'd done something (when I was young, but older than Dylan was) which I hadn't. I knew it wasn't me. But he almost had me doubting myself - and I wasn't close to my father, I'd always been a resistant, "stubborn" child, as far as he was concerned. Maybe if he'd kept at it, I would have come to believe his version of events. I can imagine how a child of Dylan's age could be convinced by the constant pressure and influence of her mother, now that Farrow was her only parent.
This whole debate reminds me of a Chris Rock joke about OJ Simpson. He said that if OJ had been a regular guy like a bus driver, no one would have been defending him. He'd be known as "OJ the bus-driving murderer". That's how I feel about Woody Allen right now. No way anyone of non-celebrity status does all the things known and witnessed by others without being seen as suspect and shady as all get out, *especially* with an accusation made by an adult child who has never changed her story.
AriD2385 - except that Dylan has changed her story several times, beginning with her first telling her pediatrician that Woody Allen had touched on the shoulder. Then Mia Farrow returned her to the same doctor one day later with a different account of where she had been touched.
Seems very easy to normalize a creepy behavior, such as marrying your girlfriend’s adopted daughter while there’re serious doubts the “relationship” started while she was a minor... he was over 60!! But of course, he was Woody Allen. I know it’s not a crime, but speaks volumes of his moral and boundaries. And it seems that Dylan’s mistake was to be a child when the abuse occurred... too easy to destroy her story especially 20 years ago. How many cases Dr. Grande analyzed before given more credit to a behavior like this. We know that the fact he wasn’t found guilty in a trial is not all, we know better than that, how easily money, power, connections can influence a verdict and society opinion.
It seems that no one can separate the, albeit unusual, relationship between Allan and Previn, with paedophilia. The two are diametrically opposed. If law no longer matters then there's no hope for anyone. All Dylan needs in either case is to be given support to heal, not to be paraded in front of the world to punish her mum's ex. Dylan has become her trauma, where is the healing for her? When will she be put first?
The relationship started when Soon-Yi was 21 and Wood Allen was 56. A big age gap for sure, but only slightly more than the age gap for Mia Farrow and her previous marriage to Frank Sinatra (21 and 50 respectively).
@@rory7590 What makes it even creepier is that both Soon-Yi and Mia were children when they met their respective husbands. Soon-Yi was 10 years old when she first met Woody, who was dating her mom Mia. Mia Farrow was 11 years old when she first met Frank Sinatra, who was married to Ava Gardner, the woman whom Mia’s father had an affair with: *”I had met Frank Sinatra eight years earlier, when I was eleven, having dinner with my father at Romanoff’s restaurant. ‘Pretty girl’, he had joked, and my father returned, ‘You stay away from her’.”* - “What Falls Away” by Mia Farrow
Not to bog you down with too many facts, but WA was never on trial. He was never charged with nor found guilty of any crime, because the child abuse investigative teams (2 independent ones at that) concluded that the allegations of sexual abuse were completely unfounded, i.e., no crime was committed. One team went so far as to say that they believed that Dylan had likely been coached by her mother and they recommended therapy for Mia. Furthermore, there was (and is!) absolutely no evidence to support the argument that WA influenced anyone with his money or power during these investigations. However, it is interesting to see how power (that of Ronan and Mia) is influencing society's opinion today. Ah, yes, "how easily money, power, [and] connections can influence a verdict and society['s] opinion" in this age of social media. One final comment: If you don't pay attention to the facts here, then you run the risk of persecuting an innocent man. Are you comfortable with that?
Anyone who's sneaking behind the back of an adult woman he's having a relationship with to go after her teenage daughter is suspect - sexually, ethically, and morally. He was coming into the home and at some point was eyeing the daughter and sneaking around in her home, behind her back, to go after her kid. Why is anyone *not* having a problem with that??? As Dr. Phil has said [not a fan but every now and then he says something right], when you let a man that is not the father of your children [Not getting into dads also being predators and moms too - this is about mommas' boyfriends], you just gave access to your kids. Predators are wherever kids are - your home, playgrounds, summer camp, scouting, sports, church - kids there? Predators are there. I think he gave it an 85 percent chance your child will be a victim. How many momma's boyfriends 'discipline' a child to death???
There is no such thing as objective morality. World is a free-for-all fight that most of you dont understand before you get wrecked by someone who does.
Allen seems incredibly Narcissistic to me. How he talks about having "saved" Soon Yi just sounds so predatory and like grooming. Adults can be groomed too. Especially young adults.
She was saved from Mia's household. In a very real sense, her relationship with WA totally freed her. And I don't think WA is narcissistic at all. He's actually quite humble and self-deprecating. You should watch him being interviewed.
@@allisonmpelette You have got to be joking. Woody Allen is a textbook narcissist. And I've watched him being interviewed many times. You don't know anything about narcissism if you're unable to see it.
@@Catbooks I replied to this yesterday, but I don't know what happened to my reply. So here I go again: I disagree with your statement that WA is a textbook narcissist. He is simply not interested in seeking or getting attention and admiration (never goes to award ceremonies and rarely gives an interview). He may be somewhat lacking in the empathy department (esp. in the Mia days) but this does not make him a narcissist. People on the autistic spectrum also struggle with empathy. Not that I'm saying WA is on the autism spectrum. I'm not. Perhaps it's more like an anti-social disorder (he is fairly reclusive, and by his own admission leads a quiet and mundane life). The nice thing is he's found happiness with Soon-Yi and their daughters, who all support and love him ... and everyone seems to be happy and mentally well-adjusted. The Farrow trio on the other hand ... now maybe there's where you'll find your textbook case study on narcissism.
@@allisonmpelette A man who marries his own child commits incest (emotional or physical). Not the healthiest or sanest of human samples. Although I would not know what to classify him as, nor do I have that right. But something is definitely not right with that individual.
What is the psychological model for fabricated memories? 7 years old is old enough to remember a traumatic experience. Unless she is lying today, how does she fabricate a vivid memory?
If her mother told her enough, there is such a thing as memories that were “implanted.” I’ve experienced that myself. To this day, I question if I was sexually abused by a former uncle. My gut tells me yes, but I cannot be certain. I typically trust my gut instincts, as they never lead me astray, but I still cannot be certain.
@@iamcasihart Totally right that we can’t be certain. Memories can be implanted- especially in young children. Mia Farrow has spent Dylan’s entire childhood reinforcing these “memories.” Dylan is indeed a victim- but not necessarily of Woody, but of her mother.
I feel like at multiple occasions Dr. Grande thinks that kids have the ability to react like adults and that is actually pretty scary to me. He downplays the fact that parents are authority figues and that kids learn from those behaviors. Babies don't pop out of the womb with all the knowledge. I really would hate for him to analyze Mary-Kay Letorenau and blame Villi for not pushing Mary-Kay away.
I agree. Dr Grande tried to sound fair, matter of fact .. but he lost me with his “ logical “ takes of defending Woody Allen by talking negatively of how Mia taped Dylan’s narratives of what happened. Mia said it was a weekend and the psychiatrist/psychologists were away so she elected to tape Dylan ASAP. We all have to remember that this happened during a time when incests , pedophilia were not talked about , Woody Allen was (and still ) a very powerful, wealthy star/producer. People could not reconcile that their favorite,talented producer /star could be the bogey man we all had been warned about. Dr. Grande also failed to mention that the parental alienation syndrome written and heavily promoted by Dr Richard Gardner . Dr. Gardner’s writings were never reviewed by his peers because of his reputation in the scientific community . He also claimed in one of his writings that pedophilia has REPRODUCTIVE values and children often times INITIATE OR WERE the aggressor in these pedophilia cases ( these claims were with no valid researches to back them up).
Yes, I saw the same concerning response in Dr. Grande’s Chris D’Elia video, regarding his abuse of a high school girl. He said he hoped they could both move on. ?!
Yep, I couldn't even finish the video because he reminds me of the mental health professionals that made me worse after my cousin raped me. He has a bias that to me reads as he isn't emotionally willing to see the truth of how there is a minority of humans that have no empathy to the point they can do things you don't believe as you see it happening. They make your normal so toxic and our culture is so abusive. Set up by abusive people that had no respect for boundaries for other abusive people to thrive. For me, it finally ended in 2015 when my last ex beat me unconscious because he was normalizing giving me concussions if I said or did something he didn't like. After a few months of that he beat me unconscious in my childhood bedroom (video on my channel) and I woke up to him laughing over my body. I realized he was capable of killing me and acting like that and I finally called the police for the first time in my life. The first time I was assaulted was 11 on public transit where a man humped me until he was hard and I felt this stick trying to poke my butt hole while in a crowded bus or something and I was talking to my dad who didn't notice. These people get off on that shit. I wish he would look into the dark web and look for what is capable because it doesn't look like he realizes what is actually happening. Like how kids like me were 12 the first time they were raped and even younger. We feel that he has a bias and I know he would have been one of the therapists I would not have told because I didn't feel safe with them. I also have recordings because I am an artist so my instinct is to record. I see that while my memory is not accurate, what I don't remember are things like names I was called. During the 1:38 min recording of me being beaten, there is a part where we left the room that I don't remember but I do remember leaving the apartment when he beat me against a tree outside. It's like my brain was just trying to delete what it could so I didn't overload and implode. I was just trying to survive the way I did the other times, freeze and huddle in a ball and babble about love. I still remember things like when he slipped my rib but I thought he broke it as he stomped on me. Now the trauma from childhood I don't have recordings of and I probably forgot details. But when he watched me sleeping at his brother's wedding I remembered him doing that after the rape as well. I def want to work on ways of helping the profession to evolve so we support GROWTH and Maturity instead of further traumatizing us. What is logical to me is working to admit the truth faster so I can work on seeing my weakness so I can grow stronger emotionally and cope in healthier ways with challenges. I send you all love and I hope you cope well with the challenges you face today 🌈💖
Plus in my experience, innocent people don't do things like marry their adopted daughter or tell their son they will give them more money if they publicly support them... His movies are grooming culture to accept his behavior when you look deeper and these manipulations are everywhere which is why I think so many of us are fed up. I am tired of all the attempted brainwashing crap and I just want to keep working towards getting healthier. Like if you agree! What is the truth and what is healthier than that? I highly recommend asking yourself that because my life has really improved when it comes to fulfillment since that became my focus.
@Infinite Jeff Yes, that is true. But he does ask for questions and comments, as he welcomes a dialogue. I think a respectful discussion is interesting and from what I understand, Dr. Grande does too.
Dylan grown up recounts the abuse instances. I relate to this . when i was a child i did not understand i was being abused. Only until i was an adult I belive her. I hope Allen pays for this
It's hard to say though. If Allen didn't do it, but her mother fervenly suggested and made her believe that something awful did take place, there is absolutely a possibility that those ideas were so deeply implanted in here memory that she believed them to be real. Children's minds are very malleable, so it's not out of the realm of possibility that her mother being so insistent to her that he did commit an assault that she now believes that is the case. It would be different if no one ever knew about this, and Dylan spoke out later recounting an event that happened during her childhood. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I just can't say for a fact that he did.
@@fghdrdthtgfghjhdf2540 I've been through a lot of therapy and i understand and accept that other people may find very difficult to validate a victims trauma without them ever been through anything similar . That gut feeling ....those little disgusting details we know.
No indication he would be inclined to that kind of behaviour???? Really guy? I think 2 inappropriate relationships is enough of a tendency to me. On top of his willingless to cross lines and obvious dishonesty on the phone calls to Mia. Also no mention of the second report and the attempted cover up... that's convenient
I feel like this guy missed a couple of key notes from the documentary, I really urge people to watch it and not just his analysis so you really get the full scope
@@robertgiles9124 no, when I say key notes, i mean that when he’s going over the data from the documentary he’s really missing some notes that would change how his statements come off. Like when he said that the documentary paints Moses statements contradicting the statements of the other children. That Dr. here doesn’t mention that it also contradicts Moses statements that he made to the police at the time when the event was going on. Also the Dr. here doesn’t mention how another study/interview was done after the yale report, where they claimed dylan to be telling the truth and that one of the yale report experts told the person doing the new study that she also believed dylan and not the decision they had made in the report. Again I really urge people to watch the whole documentary for themselves because this guy isn’t giving the full picture
@@davidcummings4383 Grande is very careful. I don't think I've ever heard him come to a conclusion based on speculation. Every time I watch one of his videos I almost hope he would. But he's a professional, not Nancy Grace.
@@jrbr549 i think thats fine. But I don’t like it when people leave out facts from the documentary that contradict their points. I always think it’s best to watch the whole thing yourself and you make your judgement than to just listen to someone else only give a 20 minute review on a 4-5 hour documentary. I’m not saying don’t listen to him, but do both cuz I do think he’s missing some key points
@@jrbr549 I usually agree with how Dr. Grande weighs in but I’m actually going to have to agree that key facts actually negate many of the reasons he cited as proof of Allen’s innocence :/ I’d also have to say to watch the doc yourself, I’ve watched **all** of the docs videos but this is the most misrepresented one I’ve seen him put out. Surprising
@@dec23 soon yi is now middle aged and has spoken about everything that happened then and now. Interesting how nobody is interested in hearing her voice or listening to her. Only in speaking for her and labeling her against her will?
I saw Manhattan when it first came out. Allen has a sexual relationship with a high schooler in the movie. I think he was in his 40s. That's when I stopped being an Allen fan. Years later I read an interview with Hemingway who played the high schooler. She said she had never kissed a boy, much less a man. It was difficult for her, and it sounded creepy. Anything after that movie I can eye with suspicion.
@@b.brightstar9189 Excellent point. What need are they attempting to fill by their collection of children. They adopt them and at some point forget they have them, but start an all out war if their partner wants to be a part of their lives. Mia accuses Woody Allen of abusing one of her adopted children and Angelina accuses Brad of fighting and abusing her oldest son, Maddox.
Collecting of any kind is an attempt to fill the unfillible hole in your soul. 1, 2, 10, it's never enough. We collect what we covet. Some covet cars, or guitars. For some it's jewels, or lovers. Some mothers covet children. The collectibles inevitably lose their lustre, and are set aside and replaced with new shiny things. How broken does a child become when they are replaced? 3 of Mia's children killed themselves.
The difference, however, is that Angelina Jolie seems genuine. She always has. None of her children, so far, are estranged from her or doing poorly in life. She also seems much more humble than Mia. Mia goes out of her way to make herself the subject of these fluff pieces that cast her as both a victim and a survivor/hero. She's been capitalizing on this story for 30 years. What's most disturbing is that she never kept Dylan's anonymity throughout this. As soon as Dylan supposedly alleged Woody of abuse she immediately picked up a video camera and spent three days filming her. Now of course most people would call a doctor or the police or talk to their child privately about this but, nope... let's get the video camera out, release the tape to the world, and completely rob a supposed victim the chance to tell their story to the world when they're comfortable.
Allen strikes me as someone who IF he was an abusive type, he'd be a particularly pathetic type of abuser that would somehow manipulate the victim to think that she was taking advantage of him. Again this is hypothetical
@@Sweet.Mother.of.Cheesus If movies were the basis to judge someone's character and real life, it should be a good idea to investigate Scorsese and Tarantino. Would be good to see what violent evil lurks beneath their work. Suddenly, the Oscar for Driving Miss Daisy doesn't seem that bad.
@@rickyvvvvv Tarantino as a person isn't particularly violent. He does have quiet a foot fetish tough, which can be observed in most of work. Just like Woody Allen's fascination with younger girls
Regardless of whether he actually did or didn't as you say, let's please not rule out his behavior which is horrific by marrying his step daughter. Why is this not the weirdest action and indictive of a problem in his mind.. Not a crime but completely bizarre and narcissistic behavior leading into a huge possibility he is guilty
Did you not get the part where she was never his step daughter? I think spreading lies like you do here, is not a moral thing to do...kinda like a narcissistic might do. Aint hard to fact check.
@@Nikes62 Get your facts right please. WA was not "supposed" to be a father figure. Andre Previn was already in that role. WA made it clear that he did not want to have anything do with all of Mia's children, adopted or otherwise. It's true he did in time develop a bond with Moses (the youngest, and first "Farrow" child, who was not a Previn and whom he later went on to adopt). WA and MF never actually lived together, and WA never even stayed overnight at Mia's. Mia adopted Dylan in an effort to get WA more involved, and eventually Mia became pregnant with Ronan (originally called, Satchel), thereby cinching the deal. Still, they remained in separate residences.
@@maniacalmadness5419 There's a theory he's Frank Sinatra's son. Mia had been married to him before her relationship with Allen. Also, people think Ronan is too handsome to be Allen's biological son.
When Farrow moved to Ireland, Satchel realised that the name is given to Irish children's school backpacks. Ronan was a great choice and the change was legal. I've always felt that Allen's relationship with Mia's adopted daughter was wrong, especially as Mia discovered it through finding hidden photographs of a naked Sunni. Some boundaries should not be breached.
He was named after Satchel Paige, Woody's favourite baseball player. Mia admitted that he is "possibly" Frank's son. So that's false patrimony. Mia sure looks bad in all this. 3 of Mia's children killed themselves. The pictures were not hidden. They were out in the open.
oh, he did it! his movies are always about a character, played by him, getting with a younger woman (aka girls). the fact that he had no problem getting with his girlfriend's child (soon-yi) shows exactly what kind of a person he is. also, there's no way he's ronan's father. ALSO: woody undoubtedly offered to pay off/did pay off people to take his side.
Well, there is a difference between fiction and reality, and if these movies were so revealing it begs the question as to why Mia Farrow wanted to be part of them and, in turn, have Woody Allen as a partner.
@@littlewingedzebra you believe who you want to believe and disbelieve who you don't vwant believe. Why do you believe Roman over Woody or Mia over Moses? I know Ronan said that Woody told him that he would only pay for his college is he supported his denials. Why would Ronan need Woody to pay for his college? Mia is a rich and famous movie star, I think she would have been able to pay for Ronan to go to college. Whether you are okay with Woody's relationship with Soon-Ye or you think it's disgusting,, has absolutely nothing to do with these molestation charges. The documentary is a one sided hit piece. The filmmakers were cashing in on the me too movement.
@@nursecece03 Well, if you didn't watch this video, and by inference didn't bother to try and educate yourself a little more on the subject, then you are the one making assumptions based on things you know nothing about..Allen didn't 'seduce' Soon Yi. Perverted? They have over twenty years of marriage, two daughters, a happy home life, not even a whiff of any kind of scandal, that's what you deem perverted? You obviously do give a fuck, otherwise you wouldn't have replied to the last comment in a defence and hostile manner.
@@AnthonyMonaghan I’m a native New Yorker and lived through all the headlines/stories/courtroom drama about the Woody Allen Mia Farrow. I believe it’s perversion when a man, like Woody Allen, becomes involved with a woman, like Mia Farrow, who has an 8 year old daughter, like Soon-Yi Previn. Allen is/was considered a father figure by all. Then approximately 13 years of being with Allen, Farrow discovers he is having a sexual relationship with Soon-Yi. Allen is approximately 57 years old. I consider this perversion. The fact that Allen and Soon-Yi are still married does not take away from the creepiness of a father figure having seen this girl grow up seduces her. We all have dysfunctional lives but the Allen, Farrow, Soon-Yi, is very unusual. It’s my opinion and I have a right to it. If you don’t like it, keep on moving on.
@@nursecece03 people keep trying to justify that relationship with... well there was never a hint of scandal in the many years they were married. Like ok if we are using that as a yard stick then why doesn't every step dad marry and have kids with the step daughters that they raised?! If it's so okay with everyone... GTFOH!! Y'all know it crosses a taboo boundary and saying that they are married so it's all good is just plain silly and kind of says more about your own morals. If he would have met her as a 20/22 year old and NOT when she was a kid then he would just me a typical rich old dude doing what they do... but he was around for her primary years and that's what makes it sick. Why can't people see that?
I find his morality to be,,,, lacking. I don’t want to speculate on Dylan, either way she lost. I also can’t imagine the pain of being a survivor and hearing someone say they think you are lying because you were manipulated or being accused of something you didn’t do. I usually enjoy your analysis but I should have sat this one out, I feel so conflicted.
Yes, just so unnerving while it was currently happening. A time I now can’t bear to remember. I have had immeasurable revulsion for Woody ever since. So horribly sad for those children.
@@jessbobess2530 His bias was clear within the first few minutes. He should stay away from commenting on anything to do with child sexual abuse and child predators, because he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Excellent and brave analysis Doc. Mia Farrow has a very dark parental history. We dont know but It's strange that several of her children have killed themselves.
@E Boston one overdosed and died at 17 after a fight with Mia. One shot himself. One died in hardship and pain but wouldn't ask Previn or Mia (her parents) for help that is 3. 2 were badly abused by Mia. That is 5. She is a monster.
@@dewilew2137 there was the custody trial that you presumably know about. There were the NY & Connecticut investigations that led to no criminal prosecution being carried forward. There COULD be a civil action by Dylan (remember what befell OJ?) but she's very careful to avoid even discussing that, & has even tried to pretend that the civil statute of limitations has expired! If you'd done some research independent of this farcical documentary you'd know that
I did not watch this particular documentary, so I appreciate your analysis. I don't know if Woody Allen abused Dylan, but I definitely think it's completely creepy that he had an intimate relationship with his stepdaughter, and that is exactly what she was, and then went on to marry her. Ughhhh. So gross.
Don't get me wrong, him being with Mia Farrow and André Previn's daughter is creepy, but she wasn't Woody's step-daughter. Him and Mia never got married, they dated and had two kids. It's still creepy as hell but she wasn't his step-daughter.
@@davidcopperfield-notthemag397 Sorry but you are wrong: Dylan was actually adopted by both Mia Farrow and Woody Allen. You may be confused with Soon-Yi Previn, who was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and Andre Previn.
@@davidcopperfield-notthemag397 thank you for pointing that out to me. I don't know much about this mess but I do know that is exactly what it is, a huge mess.
@@noelstar1456 Yes really weird and creepy. I understand that they never married but they were in a serious relationship over a long period of time and she was Mia's daughter. Whether or not he was legally her stepfather, it is completely gross and inappropriate. If I found out that my partner was creeping around with my grown adopted daughter behind my back, I'd be as pissed as Mia was. That is the ultimate betrayal, and it's disturbing and disgusting imo.
Anything done to children is the darkest most vile act ever! No excuses. It is absolutely important we as adults remember this and protect them every single second of every day.
Did you know that police budgets concerning youth under present laws can only in all practicality help to protect young people from being forced to experience statutory rape up to age 30? In addition police budgets to stop stalking behavior have had to be increased over time since the 1960's making it a lot more difficult to keep all police response times low. As more gadgets are being bought around town by more landlords in every village, town and big cities now it is not a far stretch of the imagination to assume that a lot of those drones out there too in addition to all of the nanny cams being used by a lot of parents right now some of which are being owned by bored rich landlord retirees who have hired a property management company who is going to be responsible for doing all of the hiring of trades people to do the real work of being a landlord who are not just out there hoping to stake out lucrative properties for sale. Believe it or not some of those property management companies are only being run by young ladies married to - -You guessed it - An older richer than her landlord. Not all those landlords are guilty. In this case I have no opinion one way or another.
A level headed, objective analysis, based purely on research and facts. Bravo! A very refreshing take and, hopefully, a lesson to the uneducated pitchfork weilders.
You missed an important detail in your commentary: three investigators, in the days after the alleged incident, made a sketch of the attic. A train set was present. Since the documents were quickly sealed, Woody's lawyers seized on Dory Previn song without knowing what the facts were and tried to create this alternative reality. The train set was not added later, as they have suggested. Dylan mentioned it in several interviews at the time. This raises doubt about Moses's certainty about the events. Strickland's witness does, too. I am saddened, though not at all surprised, that the men with powerful attorneys are benefitting from unconscious bias in your analysis.
Dylan was interviewed at an immediate time after the "sexual involvement/child molest" so how was Mia able to "influence" the child so completely in that short amount of time ...I believe Dylan
@@SimBol1216 that’s because there’s no actual evidence that MJ committed those crimes. Same here. Just because you BELIEVE crime was committed doesn’t mean it did. Although his videos might be speculating, Dr G tries very hard to bring facts to them hence why he always provide resources.
@@RosieGirlRose101 there is DNA and a child to women unwavering account. I have enjoyed Dr G for many yrs now but he is not invaluable nor is non bias . Dr G expects us to use our minds and not just except his analysis.
@@RosieGirlRose101 you cannot really have proof in situations where it's he said, she said, which is most of cases of child abuse or rape. So there is no way to legally pin an abuser down. And still, the abuse happens. So this logic with just looking for proof is clearly not enough.
Just because there really was a train set, how does that explain away the "Daddy In The Attic" song? The lyrics clearly are about a father who plays clarinet (as Woody does), who uses the pretext of playing in the attic, hidden away from watching neighbors and siblings, to incestuously molest his own daughter. The song is from more than 20 years before Woody became involved with Mia. Are you trying to dismiss all that because the lyrics don't mention a toy train?
The one thing I found odd was Allen's response. It wasn't of disgust or anger, he simply replied "why would I choose her, why at that time" Its an odd response to paedophilia. If it were me I would be angry i would be disgusted, not so nonchalant and dismissive.
@The Love Witch wow I didn't know all that. I caught a clip last year of Dylan explaining and his rebuttle and I immediately thought it was a weak denial and it raised a red flag.
its the bell ringing. its the bell in our heads that alerts us to DANGER. he's a predator and highly intelligent. and he knows how to take a sunny day and cast the shadows of doubt, the nuances of trust, wherever he wants them. he said it that way because he is that way.
@The Love Witch It wasn't his "friend" who administered the polygraph, Woody deliberately sought out one of the most prominent specialists in the world.
@The Love Witch Woody sought out Paul Minor, who had been the chief polygraph examiner for the FBI and for the U.S. Army at various times. Minor personally administered the polygraph test to Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas Supreme Court hearings. These filmmakers are charlatans, and what you think you know about Allen refusing a polygraph is just one of the many things they've deliberately mislead you about. Like Dr Grande said, the filmmakers are just assuming/hoping that people won't do research beyond the docu series, and you're taking their bait. Idgaf if you "just believe" me. Just get over yourself and look at the facts
@@FLK-BC And you don't know what you're talking about, having obviously not even seen the documentary. I've followed this case for decades, by the way, as have many others. Grande doesn't know what he's talking about either, when it comes to child predation and predators. The doc said Woody Allen had hired his own polygrapher, which he did. Which wasn't acceptable by the DA, which it wasn't, and wouldn't have been by any DA conducting a criminal investigation. Take your own advice - get over YOURself and look at the facts.
As I recall, people mentioned that he would not leave Dylan alone. I'm recalling this from when the accusations were fresh. Also, the movie "Manhattan" had the lead female character be 17. Mariel Hemingway, who played the part was 17. I thought at the time eeewwwww. That was certainly evidence that he thought robbing the cradle was appropriate.
@@bunnyspellman im assuming its also eww when 40 year old leonardo dicaprio throws away his 25 year old model girlfriend to upgrade to a new 18 year old one. Or when 50 year old frank sinatra marries 20 year old mia farrow. Men in their 30s 40s and 50s preying on 18-21 year old girls was and still is pretty common in hollywood but when you look like woody allen and not leonardo dicaprio i guess then its creepy and eww.
For all the people who keep saying that WA never lived with Mia and her kids and they were not married, thus Soon-Yi was not his stepdaughter, imagine this scenario: You have a 9yo daughter when a new family moves in next door. She plays with their kids her entire childhood and spends time at their house and they spend time at hers. When your daughter is 19 or 20, she starts dating the neighbor's 50yo father. Wouldn't you be disturbed by this? They are not contemporaries nor peers, there is a definite fucked up power dynamic there. Wouldn't you wonder when that creep next door starting sexualizing your baby girl in his mind? Is any age the right age?
Here's another scenario, you are a consenting adult, you choose someone you want to spend time with, but some douchebag decides that they somehow have the right to tell you how to live your life.
@@rl12345 It's interesting that you would instantly defend the old perv in my scenario....and I never said anything about having the right to tell someone how to live their life. I merely pointed out that the power dynamic in that situation was not conducive to a healthy relationship for the girl.
@@kristyreal I didn't defend the old person, you just immediately showed your ageist prejudice. I defended the right of a consensual adult to decide for herself what dynamic works best for her and being allowed to choose that person regardless of age, race, sex or religion. There's thousands of dynamics in a relationship, power isn't only about age.
@@rl12345 The toxic power imbalance in this scenario is not AGE, it is the fact that the man was an authority figure to the girl while she was growing up (this wouldn't even be a discussion if it was some random 50yo man she met as an adult). I agree consenting adults have the right to choose whomever they please, but in this case, he uses his authority over her to manipulate her into a sexual relationship. No one can deny that's wrong.
@Roodi Graffoodi Yeah, my scenario is disturbing enough, but WA went far beyond that. He also isolated her by driving a wedge between her and her family. She gave up everything to be with that old perv because he is an expert groomer.
You say Allen never changed his story, with regards to admitting assault this is true, but Allen's story did change early on. He initially told police he had never even been in that attic crawl space in his life, but later changed his story to say perhaps he stuck his head in a couple of times after police found his hair in the attic
You're lying. There is nothing like this in the Supreme Court document, only in Maureen Orth's 10 UNDENIABLE FACTS ABOUT THE WOODY ALLEN SEXUAL-ABUSE ALLEGATION: 8. Allen changed his story about the attic where the abuse allegedly took place. First, Allen told investigators he had never been in the attic where the alleged abuse took place. After his hair was found on a painting in the attic, he admitted that he might have stuck his head in once or twice. A top investigator concluded that his account was not credible. The facts Maureen Orth cites as “undeniable” are either flat-out false, entirely deniable, or misleading and irrelevant due to the fact that Orth purposely omits other, more important facts that cast doubt on the allegations. As it wasn't enough, According to Maureen Orth herself: I remember, for the legal fact-checking process on the Woody Allen piece, I was in a room with the fact-checkers for eight hours. They weren’t going to allow the piece to be published until I had a written letter from Mia Farrow saying if we did get sued, she would be a witness to say what I had said was the truth from her point of view. Everyone can Google: Why Maureen Orth’s 10 Undeniable Facts About The Woody Allen Sexual-Abuse Allegation Is Complete Bunk. and go to the fact 8 for a complete refutation.
I have followed this story for many years. I am not a fan of Woody Allen, but I cannot discern if he is guilty or not beyond a reasonable doubt. If nothing else he certainly has made some questionable decisions. He has been convicted in the court of public opinion.
Too bad it doesn't mean anything because he still gets to make films ... he hasn't been hurt by his actions... neither has Roman Polanski! They both still get to do what they love... sans any real consequences...
I'd say it is unclear if the assault occurred. It is crystal clear he is not guilty beyond reasonable doubt. That's a high bar and there is a lot of doubt.
Soon Yi Previn was 21 and Woody Allen was 56 when they started their relationship. He was never married to Mia Farrow even though they were romantically involved. Previn and Allen have been married since 1997. As screwed up as it is, this shouldn’t be minimized either; Previn wasn’t a minor when she became romantically involved with Allen. They were both consenting adults. Previn is 50 and Allen is 85 at present. Lasted longer than a lot of Hollywood or celebrity marriages. No I don’t agree with it, but not going to the judge either.
Do you find Allen’s Laser focus on Dylan emotional abuse. How do you assess someone in a romantic relationship taking nude photos of their partners daughter? I don’t think Woody Allen makes great movies but I’m a woman so maybe that colors my judgement.
His relationship with Soon Yi is creepy by any standard. However, it’s important to know that she was an adult when she engaged in her relationship with Woody Allen. The word Mia Farrow‘s daughter makes it sound like she was a child at the time. The fact that they have maintained a long and healthy relationship since that time and throughout all of this nightmare would indicate that although the relationship may be unorthodox it seems to be a loving and stable one. Everyone should read Woody Allen’s memoir where he goes into a great deal of detail telling his side of the story. This is just a four hour hectic job. He pretends to examine the issue but it only tells one side of it
@@rixx46 She was not an adult when he took naked pictures of her and if you believe that’s all he did then I have some stuff to sell you. They say the relationship didn’t start until she was of age but the pictures are proof that it started much earlier.
@Roodi Graffoodi Technically its not incest and there's a world of difference between 9 and 19. It may be unusual but they are happy to this day so it should be nobody else's business.
@@judyives1832 the pictures were found when Soon-Yi was a twenty one year old college freshman. If you believe that the pictures were taken when she was a minor, can you present some evidence to back that up. His relationship will Soon Yi has NOTHING to do with the allegations against him.
I really recommend following Moses Farrow on Instagram and here on UA-cam. He's a therapist with a speciality in adoption trauma (three of his siblings died - two from suicide (one by gun shot another an overdose) and one died alone in poverty from AIDS - she didn't want to be resuscitated). Two other siblings - Soon-Yi and Moses claim abuse on their own behalf and with memories of their fellow non-white adoptees in their family. Moses' story is hard to listen to - it's very brutal, traumatic and he clearly is still suffering from the abuse but he has so many wise words and does some wonderful online discussions with fellow adoptees. He is an awesome advocate for adoptees and presses for those considering adoption to address their own issues first before perpetuating generational abuse.
@@lornam3637 moses tried to say that his adopted sister having a DNR in the midst of a grave personal illness, was the same as suicide. I think every voice needs to be heard, but some people are so hurt and in pain that they can't accept change or a multi-layered reality. he fixates on the adoptee experience but doesn't help himself or anyone else by compartmentalizing and taxonomizing outside of cross-cultural comparison and statistical norms... he just takes a line of thought and runs with it pretty irrationally. he doesn't look at the origins of adoption in the region... colonialism, racism, white savior complex, he stops short at the narrative rather than the root cause. i think hes telling his truth but not considering anyone else's. a dnr is not suicide. a human taking agency and making a decision for themselves is dignified and respectable... even if you don't agree. but in his hurt... it is. 'she didn't have any other choice. she was sad. she couldn't see the light BECAUSE OF MIA.' we all have complicated relationships with our parents. parents of adopted children will not always know what to do just like parents of any child biological or otherwise do not always know what to do. but what is abuse and what is not? it is abusive to groom your ADOPTED daughter FOR MARRAIGE. it is abusive to hit your children. which is worse? if you are moses... they are in love so no big deal. but hitting a child is disgusting. sorry but there are plenty of children who are corporally punished at some point in their lives by one or more parent(s). MARRYING YOUR FATHER FIGURE... even if it feels good... IS ABUSE ON HIS PART. Moses Farrow has an important story to tell, but i don't see it as the whole story, because he does a terrible job of acknowledging some GLARING issues in the narrative he and his wealthy self-interested friends have created. LOVING FATHERS DO NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH ANY OF THEIR CHILDREN. HEALTHY MEN DO NOT RATIONALIZE SEXUALIZING THE CHILDREN AROUND THEM. HEALTHY MEN DO NOT ASK OTHER CHILDREN TO DEFEND THEIR SEXUALIZING OF TEENAGE GIRLS IN THE HOME. HEALTHY MEN DO NOT GROW UP AND CONTINUE DEFENDING THAT BEHAVIOR BECAUSE NOW THAT THEY ARE OLDER WITH THEIR OWN CHILDREN THEY SEE HOW WRONG THAT IS. Moses is not healthy or rational, he's in pain. And as the family showed, he has been in pain for decades. Adopted children want to be loved so badly; the hollywood model of adopting 10 kids is utopic but unrealistic in fulfilling each of those children's individual needs. Even if he doesn't believe that allen was in the attic that day, abusing his baby sister, why doesn't he have any qualms about the betrayal of marrying his other sister? of cheating on his mother? of creating this rift in his family? he's hurt. mia was such a push over when it came to older men she was dating. she saw them as intellectuals... experienced... protectors. she's not without fault. but ANYONE dismissing these OBVIOUS signs of predatory behavior from allen... how can you? just how? DO YOU ALL TRULY BELIEVE the sex didn't start SEVERAL years before they were caught with raunchy photos? Remember these were polaroids not selfies in the privacy of a bedroom. He had her trust because he was grooming her for YEARS and you better believe HE GROOMED THAT WHOLE FAMILY. he knew what he was doing. they always do.
@@SoVerySasa Soon-Yi Previn's father figure was her adoptive father - the famous composer Andre Previn. It is, of course, terrible to marry your ex-girlfriend's daughter but she was college-age. It isn't the same thing at all as child abuse (of a very young child). Having to strip and stand naked in front of one's siblings is sexual abuse. Two of Moses' siblings committed suicide, Lark Song died alone. If you doubt Moses because he is an adoptee, why do you believe Dylan. I believe Dylan. I think she thinks this happened to her. But the different child authorities think the evidence isn't there. In fact they are so confident that Soon-Yi and Woody Allen were allowed to adopt two daughters - both of whom grew up without abuse and defend their beloved father. Putting myself in Mia's shoes, I can't understand why she says she would never forgive her daughter if she thinks she was groomed. The love of a parent is unconditional.
@@lornam3637 if u actually watched the documentary you are WRONG. though previn was her adoptive father they were not close as she was adopted right before they divorced. allen was her father figure and the only man regularly at the home while she was growing up. HE WAS ALSO THE ADOPTIVE FATHER OF HER SIBLINGS. he was indeed the father figure and you trying to minimize that is part and parcel of the PROBLEM.
he repeatedly talks about how "soon yi is sullen" to mia... this was to get mia to suggest he spend some time with her. don't be obtuse. he's a predator NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
Im super disappointed on your take on this you seemed to highlight her "bitter" battle with allen but never bring up how many times mia sought help BEFORE dylan made an accusation their intense relationship is something he even admitted he needed help with and he wasnt actually ALLOWED to be alone with dylan so the fact that she was missing while he was there is highly problematic. This video shows how sad it can be for victims to come forward
I agree with this. I am sure Mia was not perfect. No mother-no person, actually-is. But I believe she was protective of her children and once she figured things out was horrified. Allen kept her off-balance. You can see this in the documentary. I would never want to disclose sexual abuse and have to deal with this type of response. It would crush me. I believe you Dylan.
Agreed. I was very shocked by this lopsided take by Grande. It's a poorly researched video. He left out so many aspects that pointed towards Allen's guilt.
@@ashasekayi It's very revealing of Grande. He needs to steer clear of child molestation topics, since this only shows his lack of knowledge about the topic, and his inability to even be aware of his biases.
Agree. I would also say that Grande left out quite a lot of information that explained certain turns in the case, for example that witnesses stated that Soon-Yi was 15-16 years old when Allen started "dating" her. I also didn't get the impression that Farrow was out-of-her-mind angry with Allen about Soon-Yi and therefore do not believe she would coach Dylan to break Allen.
Thank you for tackling this complicated topic. This is certainly one of your most complex analysis and you didn’t disappoint a bit. Always on the side of reason and common sense (which isn’t always popular as we can see here in the comments). Congratulations, well done 👍
I agree. Dr. Grande, this is one of your Most trenchantly seriously analytical works I’ve seen videos ever. And you can hear it in your voice how serious you took the situation. I hate child abuse but I never believed he did it and would be more likely for me to believe it do it given my predilection against it. But the evidence just was never there and I’ve read a lot on it. I never felt good about the proximity of her finding out about his relationship with her adopted daughter and then her accusing him … I remember at the time it was just a matter of days. It just left you wondering at the time and still today what was really going on there with her? The fact of the matter is he was never charged. That tells you a lot right there. Thank you, Dr. Grande … I thought this piece was a real service on behalf of the community.
well hold on now, dr Grande, in your calm and oh-so-centered opinion you forgot that Dylan is a grown woman now. Let’s not just assume that she was manipulated by her mother. She’s a grown woman, let’s not take away her power. She’s not a child anymore.
Yet *everyone* would deny Soon Yi her decision making power, even these years later. I'm all for supporting victims, Dylan is absolutely a victim but it's highly unlikely she is the victim of Woody, more of the obsession her Mum has for revenge. If Mia was so desperate to protect Dylan why not just do that? Why the circus? Dylan has had to spend her whole life as a victim, that's a long sentence; most parents want to help their kids heal, not relive the trauma forever.
Correct. She was a child who had grown into an adult and had has time to process her thoughts, feelings and rights involved in the matter. The statute of limitations on sexual assault in both states (NY and CT) is 20 years, where she could have pursued a criminal case against Allen with her family behind her and followed with a civil case for damages if they chose to but never did. Mia Farrow during an interview in 2006 even publicly forgave Allen but still held contempt for her daughter Soon Yi for some unbeknownst reason. There’s still plenty to unpack in this story.
Wait a minute if a child has a history of being abused and manipulated by their mother she would carry that into adulthood. Age doesn’t automatically mean you are free from the psychological effects of a vindictive mother. Moses came forth and told of his mothers virulent behavior..
@@penelopehughes-jones5265 from what I saw in the documentary Mia did not report the incident directly to the police, Dylan’s pediatrician did bc he had to report any claim of child abuse to the authorities
How is Mia Farrow’s possible abuse against Soon-Yi Previn an argument in favor of Woody Allen’s innocence? Prévin’s abuse and Dylan’s abuse are compatible.
i was wondering how was the excuse "she was a scorned woman" a legit argument? it's not like he cheated on her with some actress in his movie, he cheated on her with her underage daughter! and an excuse for that is he wasn't parental with soon yi. he was in a relationship with mia for like 10 years. if he didn't have any parental relationship with her daughter during all that time, there's something wrong with him
@@tamaraaa993 Soon- Yi was not underage when they got romantically involved. Even Mia admitted that Woody was not a father figure to her in any way. She even encouraged Soon-Yi and Woody to spend more time with each other and try to develop a relationship. Something I am sure Mia really regrets now 😀
Your balanced and informative insights on this complex situation are much appreciated. Your comments made me realize how very little I know about this case.
She's living the ramifications of her monster of a mother. If she was sexually abused, it was likely by someone else. Look at the work of Robert Weide and Justin Levine, in print and on UA-cam. Read the accounts of Moses Farrow. Watch the Rick Worley two hour piece on UA-cam. At worst, you should be convinced that the HBO series was a Farrow produced hit piece and a hagiography of Mia.
Also, in most cases you cover...when it is "uncertain" as to the truth...idk how you can make an assertion that Dylan is lying.. Especially when it has to do with such a sensitive and difficult to prove allegation. I'd have been much more comfortable if you had just said "I don't know" rather than calling Dylan and Mia out as liars. I myself suffered sexual abuse that remains unproven in the eyes of the law. So you really did a huge injustice to women and kids who have suffered through that and finally spoke up.
If you know all of the facts in this case, you would also agree with Dr. Grande. To start, read Moses Farrow's blog, A son speaks out. He is also a victim. I am truly sorry for the abuse you have suffered.
@@allisonmpelettein the documentary, ronan says woody offered him tuition, etc. in exchange for taking his side. it's not hard to imagine he offered that to others, too. moses, as was stated in the doc, had been super close to woody and was devastated when all this happened. he probably really wants to believe woody is innocent, though his initial testimony does not support that.
Dr Grande didn’t say Dylan lied. He said it’s uncertain. One side or the other could be lying. Then he analyzed why each side could be lying or not. Analyzed each side’s possible motive for lying, and doubted those motives were logical. He also pointed out that we’re only seeing one side of the story. Which is also true. He ended by indicating it’s inconclusive. THEN he addressed the topic of false memories as a separate topic. In the intro he laid out 3 or 4 areas he planned to talk about. With false memories being the last topic. With all that said, he still concluded that it was inconclusive. How is that biased? It’s not. We see things through the lens of our own experiences. So our views (even memories) may be biased. The job of investigators, lawyers, and mental health professionals is to look past those biases and try to focus on the facts. In this case, as in many others, there is reasonable doubt. It’s been investigated more than once, and it’s always resulted in there being reasonable doubt. Which is why it’s never been prosecuted. Insufficient evidence. No probable cause. Which is also why the public opinion is divided on this case. As with other highly publicized cases, the are a lot of opinions, speculation, rumors, and faulty logic being passed off as truths. It’s been repeated so often that people believe them to be true. People have been programmed to believe it’s true. Take a look at the last 4 years of US politics for example. Sometimes legal results seem unfair. But most of the time, it’s because our criminal justice system is based on evidence that can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Not public opinion or what we think is fair.
Why? Soon Yi and Woody have been together for thirty years and adopted two girls, which never would have happened if he had done what Mia said. The adoption agency would check him AND. Soon Yi over and above. By the way, usually a pedophile doesn’t just stop one day. So Woody has never been accused again. Any consideration f that fact in your mind?
@@ecalose6785 Really? His bad judgement is taking up with his girlfriend's daughter. Woody didn't even break up with Mia. He went behind Mia's back and seduced Mia's daughter. Gross.
@@Meluvkatz you don’t know re Mias and Woodys relationship. At that point they were not sleeping together. So yes really. Gross? Mia went behind her best friends back and seduced her husband. She was 24 or thereabouts. Her friend? Dory Previn. Yes, tell me again how honorable Mia Farrow is. Please! You can’t because Mia isn’t?
I think if I found photos of my naked adopted daughter in my husbands things, and if I knew he had a history of behaving weirdly around children, I'd start wondering if the younger ones had been targeted. I might even start making up a whole paranoid movie in my head about it. This might be a large part of what happened here.
@@tankthearc9875 But he took on the role of a father figure to that family, he wasn't just some dude that Mia went out with every now and then. That is what makes it unacceptable and it casts a shadow on his intentions from the very beginning...did you ever consider that maybe he just took on the father role to get closer access to the other kids? Predators do shit like that all the time. So yes, his relationship with Soon-yi was not criminal but you have to wonder what else someone is capable of if they are willing to cross that line. Furthermore, detailed disclosures from the children are the best evidence we have that abuse is occurring. Contrary to what Dr. Grande says about alienation, it is extremely hard to coach a very young child into reciting and remembering the complex web of lies necessary to present a credible (but false) claim of abuse. But its very easy, from a cognitive standpoint, for a child to describe something that was actually done to them...
I don’t know if he committed the crimes he was accused of, but he definitely was responsible for inappropriate relationships with his semi-step kids. I kind of wonder about his ability to form healthy emotional attachments if it wasn’t grooming behavior.
Woody Allen stated in an interview (can still be found on the internet) that if he was caught in bed with a bunch of 12 yos everyone would say that they knew that about him. What kind of person says that? Someone who is inclined to do it.
There has been 30 years for other "victims" of Woody Allen to go public. Not a peep from anyone, even in this Me Too era. There's a reason. He never sexually abused anyone, including Dylan. If you think that in his entire 86 years on this earth, Woody Allen abused a single person, a single time, at his estranged partner's home under the watch of a number of people, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
I, myself, believe Dylan. Long before she did an op Ed on her story. An interview he gave years ago that he gave convinced me. He spoke of very questionable behavior with other young girls.
Every man I know either has been falsely accused to a greater or lesser degree, or knows a close person who was. My sweet husband was once threatened by a girl in high school to tell her older brothers he raped her if he didn’t ask her out. I had a boss who told me in high school he flirted with a girl at a party and she later told everyone he’d tried to rape her. My son’s teacher told me she’d falsely accused a neighbor man to “save” her father from suspicion when school authorities questioned her over her sexualized behavior. Her father and Uncle were guilty, but she didn’t want to get them in trouble… I’m pretty sure false rape claims are exactly as common as real ones.
It's funny bc I always thought he was a creep and overrated as a director but come on ppl, it's clear as day this was a bullshit accusation by a crazy woman. I think Mia was projecting, due to her brother being an actual pedo, I think it's likely she herself (Mia) had been abused.
There's a podcast by the film makers (called Allen v Farrow Podcast) that has now released 3 of the 4 supporting episodes. #3 came out today and has an interview with an expert on predators (Dr. Anna Salter). They also describe that in getting the court records for the custody trial, they received audio tape recordings done by both Allen and Farrow- they are not just Farrows recordings.
@@sophiatrinity3339 Soon-Yi turned 21in October 1991, two months before the Polaroids were taken, as accepted in court by both sides. Why so desperate to assert otherwise, despite Mia's own published accounts? SY graduated high school at 20 & began college in 1991, her education having been delayed by early reading *difficulties*, not *disabilities* as insultingly claimed by Mia. The romantic relationship between WA & Mia had not been exclusive (remember Mia's own comments on Frank Sinatra & Ronan?!) & had been on the wane for some time by December 1991,& of course they never cohabitated.
@@z17seattle Yes, look at Dylan's pain. I'm sure that it's real and that her mother is at the root of it. Moses was also in pain until he broke free from Mia. He lays out very eloquently the complicated emotions that went along with hating his father for the sake of his mother. Read his blog, A son speaks out. He is a family therapist specializing in adoption trauma.
@@sophiatrinity3339 Because Soon Yi had been a street kid, nobody knew her exact age...and still don't. They had a 3 year estimation..as in, she might have been 6, 7, or 8, when Mia and Andre' Previn adopted her.
@@z17seattle I didn't suggest that Soon-Yi & her age didn't make WA a molester, magically or otherwise. I just deplore the continued lazy conflation & confusion of the 2 *separate* issues, as if an *adult* who takes up with a much younger *adult* will thereby molest a 7yo child, & am irritated about those continually questioning SYP's age when it was agreed by both sides & the court. Dylan did not *immediately* take against her father: it took continued effort by Mia over months (& subsequent years, as with Ronan) Read the testimonies in the transcripts. Why do you think the child welfare experts who saw the *full* videotape "failed" to see the pain that you did? Do you think they're squeamish & "in denial" in their line of work & daily experience over *years*?!** Days before the allegation, Mia, in a phone call with Dr Susan Coates, described WA as evil & satanic...then asked if she thought she should marry him! (August 1, 1992)
@@z17seattle "suicidally loyal" I'll agree with you on that Dylan's life has revolved around this allegation: how can she exist without it? The media painting Mia as insane? The *portion* that do certainly have a wealth of history to rely on The majority of the media who attack WA (& the Twitterati) are determined to group him with Weinstein, Epstein, Cosby, R.Kelly,Spacey etc when there is one allegation by one person in the middle of a bitter custody dispute
Soon Yi wasn't a kid, its really unfair to deny her as a sentient human with feelings and intelligence. An age gap obviously isn't the same as paedophilia but all this mud has been thrown based on the unconventional way two consenting adults, still together decades later, met.
I’m shocked Dr Grande didn’t comment on all of the gaslighting and other narcissistic and self aggrandizing comments in Woody’s own voice in the recorded phone calls and from his book. And the observed thumb sucking? C’mon now Dr Grande!
To be honest, even if this documentary which I didn't watch is biased, I don't wish any more of this for the children in that family. Imagine Woody Allen making a movie about how his daughter (or stepdaughter - I got lost in the complicated structure of the family) being a liar. That would be absolutely disgusting whether he is innocent or guilty. Let's hope that will never happen.
I can’t enjoy Woody Allen movies anymore. There’s enough “weirdness” in the actions and accusations of the adults that I just feel guilty for laughing now. Just from the marriage part. Once Dylan’s story comes out it becomes too difficult to even try to decipher the truth because it is entirely too intrusive to their privacy or psychological profile. So now, it’s avoid his movies and wait for some resolution. Anyone else experience this?
@@DT-bp2om Hi DT. Because rich guys get away with stuff. Kraft got his prostitution case dropped, but the two massage girls got convicted. So the rich guys never pay (two presidents did sleazy things: clinton, trump). So you NEED a witch hunt to get one of those guys. But, then if a regular guy gets accused they still use the witch hunt tactics and that guy just gets obliterated.
@@DT-bp2om I’m not sure why prostitution is a crime. I just know two poor Asian women were convicted one rich white male millionaire got his charges dropped.
The phone calls with Woody and Mia speaks volumes. Woody Allen being privy to the reports when Dylan was treated at a hospital in NY. He had been a father figure to the children... SoonYi especially. She was 9yrs. old when he came into her life. He's definitely got some weirdness going on with children.
Notice they didn't include the screaming hysterical calls Mia made to his 80 something year old mother saying he should be killed and his eyes should be poked out. Woody Allen was never a father figure to Soon Yi Previn, her father Andre Previn was her father figure. The courts firmly established Woody and Soon Yi had nothing to do with each other until she turned 20.
@@rl12345 A man with money an enuff power can make things go his way just look up hollywood men who was paying peeps to find young girls and how long it too to get them locked up they just aint get away with ish overnight people do things for those elite hollywood peeps n do it well
"Took on a role as a parent ..." Did he? Because the documentary appeared to show Allen saying he doesn't care about the children beyond some facile enjoyment he obtained by having their company and he explicitly wanted no responsibilities involving them.
Hmm. Back when this happened some of my friends supported Allen, and their method was ripping up Farrow. One of them said, "Adopting all those children shows somethings wrong with her" I didn't like them for that, and I don't like the tone of your remark either, Frank Benlin.
@@judithgannon5642 it's not adopting all the kids that shows somethings wrong, it's how she talked about adopting them, and the fact that 3 are now dead and 2 have spoken about how abusive she was towards all the non white adopted children. She has also been quoted as saying that she likes to adopt because she enjoys the feeling that they wouldn't have a life without her. Egomanic alert. She also 'returned' a few adopted children like puppies from a store. She's like the mother who recently became hated on youtube for 'rehoming' her autistic son adopted from China, Myka Stauffer. Same kind of woman.
I use to love his movies. Then I found out how Mia found out about the affair and what happened. Absolutely disgusting. I haven't watched his newer movies since. Just can't. I try and I just think about him cheating with a kid. I don't know if Dylan is truthful but it's not out the realm of disbelief.
@@carnuatus How was it, when they were not related. I remind you that it was Mia herself who insisted on them spending more time alone together when Soon-Yi was 20, as they barely knew each other. The amount of disinformation about the whole affair is incredible.
Thank you for taking the time to do this video. As someone who follows the Woody Allen case since 2018, I have only support for Woody Allen. And here are my reasons why I stand with him. 1)Dylan Farrow switched the abuse locations multiple times over the years (tv room, staircase, etc.); which shows she doesn't make sense. 2)The idea of attacking Dylan during a custody battle doesn't make sense. 3)Mia Farrow claiming first thing first that Woody had assaulted Soon-Yi Previn. 4)Sordid history in the Farrow family of violence and abuse, such as her brother John Charles Villiers-Farrow who was arrested and jailed for abuse on two children. Whereas nothing in Woody's family. 5)Abuse accounts from Soon-Yi and Moses Farrow regarding Mia Farrow. Both of them denouncing her as a "Mommy Dearest". 6)The constant surveillance of Woody by everyone in the Farrow house, including Moses. Which would have made it impossible for Woody to hurt Dylan. 7)No sign of abuse after medical investigations. 8)Shifted story from the nanny. 9) Dylan Farrow's habit of reinventing her story and her problem of making difference between fantasy and reality. Alongside her mom's manipulative/invasive videotape recordings and personal statements. 10)Overcontrolling nature of Mia on her kids. Alongside her demeaning nature of Soon-Yi Previn by calling her vile names when Soon-Yi is very intelligent, mature, and educated. 11)The statement "I like to cheat on my stories." from Dylan. 12)The train set being claimed by Dylan as a small train set, but as revealed by the nanny, it was a massive model for a child to sit on and to travel around rails. A set used in the living room, Mia's room and in any big space. Which would make its use in the attic small space impossible. 13)Woody had no problem adopting his kids. And his private life has always been pristine and exemplary. Whereas Mia's life has always been plagued with problems. Especially with her adopted children who either died or which she neglected and abandoned. 14)The authorities investigations were extensive and rigorous. And the authorities were very unpleasant toward Woody. 15)The manipulative and tabloid nature of Ronan Farrow 16)The culture of Mia Farrow of reprojecting on others what she did (Especially her history of hurting others). 17)Judge Wilkes's history of thoughtless decision. 18)Maureen Orth's presence in the battle (dubious behaviour, lies, bias on Mia, and attacks on others like Michael Jackson with BS and racist lies) 19)Dylan saying to the paediatrician for the first time that Woody only touched her shoulder. 20)Dylan's "Mommy wants me to lie." statement. 21)Dylan saying on Oct 30 that she recanted her testimony. With Mia saying to the social workers that nothing had happened to her. That Woody did not hurt her. 22)Dylan's flagrant inconsistencies both as a child and as an adult. Her habit of treating her "trauma" as a "spectacle show." 23)Dylan, Mia, and Ronan exploiting this situation like prima donnas. Always courting cameras and hogging the spotlight while Woody is silenced. 24)60 minutes Video 25)Woody never having any history of violence or abuse in his private, professional, and personal life. 26)Woody's claustrophobia making him incapable of entering that attic small space. 27)Conflicting testimonials of the babysitters regarding Woody and Dylan. One of them saying the actress pressured her to attack Woody Allen. 28)Soon-Yi's concerns and facts about Mia Farrow and her violence toward Soon-Yi. 29)Mia's sordid way of treating her adopted kids like toys and political/PR images, constantly renaming them. 30)Mia's game of reinventing her history and life to her image and narcissism. 31)The nannies denouncing Mia as a bully who ordered the adopted children to be domestics and servants and who assaulted them. While the biological ones were well treated. 32)Soon-Yi and Moses both confirming Mia was violent. Alongside the nannies. I could go on, but the thing is that one only has to look at the history of the people involved to notice that the ONLY ones with serious problems and disturbing closets are the Farrows. And recently, the Farrows were spotted online attacking not only Michael Jackson, but also Johnny Depp. These people from the Farrow clan are opportunists who just exploit whatever hate trends is occuring in the medias for their PR and opportunism. But by attacking Johnny Depp and Michael Jackson, it motivated the Woody Allen fans to express support for Michael and Johnny. Furthermore, MJ fans were quite angry to see them and Michael Jackson being attacked in the documentary. As a result, the Michael Jackson and Woody Allen activists have stood together and shared facts on Woody Allen's case, allowing more people to know the facts about this case and Woody's life. Since then, many people have started doing their researches and documentaries over this case and the support for Woody Allen has grown stronger than ever. Have you seen the documentary "By the Way Woody Allen is Innocent" ? It covers extensively the many facts about Woody Allen and his situation with Mia Farrow. Again thank you for this video. Have a nice week. Sincerely, Simon
@@erikparent8176 Agree! I also don´t see why so many people keep telling that his relation with Sun-Yi was creepy. It´s true he was much older than her, but she was NO child! And the duration of their marriage, more than 20 years to this very day, seems to reveal that they truly love each other. Mia Farrow, although i don't dislike her as an actress (but neither I consider her a great actress), has always come to me as a very spoiled, very moody brat - and I feel this since the time she was married to (or lived with, I don't know) Roman Polansky.
@@paulavitoria1798 She was a child the whole time she knew him, and he acted as her father. Just because they came out later on, doesn't mean that he didn't groom her for years while she was underage, AND again, he was acting as her father. It is creepy as frak.
She explains why in the documentary, a therapist told her his inappropriate behavior was inappropriate but not sexual, and the Allen said he recognized this and would do better. She felt convinced and thought Allen was her life partner.
Yes, I agree, this channel used to deal with basic information about psychotherapy and psychology but as it has become popular, it's become about Dr Grande's speculations about true crime and celebrity controversies (topics he doesn't necessarily know anything about more than anyone else). He's going for the clicks.
My sister suffered from depression and was advised to go for counselling. Having attended for some months, she developed a vivid recollection of being sexually abused by a near relative. Dates and locations were recorded and when we realised that the relative was dead before those dates her recollection changed. First, she had recollected it happening when she was fourteen but then she said that she was only six but later, she vividly recalled that it was a neighbour not our relative, when she was fourteen. That neighbour is dead and can't defend himself. She remains absolutely convinced that she had been assaulted. Curiously, a large number of the counsellor's female clients recall being sexually assaulted as children but only after several months of counselling. Several men have been arrested as a result. To the best of my knowledge, no one has been tried on these charges. I can only assume that the evidence is too weak or has been shown to be false. We can become convinced of events that never happened and have no recollection of events that did. The mind is a pliable thing and if the wrong person is in a position to do the plying, the outcome can be disastrous.
It's like when a person you know well says something like, "I've seen aliens" and they refuse to ever go back on that statement. I have come to realize that they really do believe in what they saw or thought they saw and no amount of convincing or evidence rebutting it will change their mind. This has also been documented in eye witness court testimony in which the witness was proven wrong even though they really believed it was the way they remembered it.
If Mia thought Woody had issues, why wouldn't she do everything to protect her daughter? Why not make sure he was watched every second he was there? I have trouble believing that she had all these issues with Woody before it happened, yet did absolutely nothing to stop what she alleges happen.
Sadly, it's an all too common pattern. I don't know in this case (someone also said she did reach out, before?), but often mothers who drift towards abusers have also been abused and no healthy sense of or defenses for what is right as well as no proper knowledge of how to take action, as that ability/impulse often has been blocked by trauma in childhood when action might have meant death. They might not even be sure and also feel as overwhelmed and helpless by the implications inwardly as during childhood trauma, as it's too horrible to be true. So a lot of mother's consciously or subconsciously choose to ignore, suppress or downplay any suspicions and/or insufficiently (or not at all) protect their child. Some mothers might also feel emotionally or financially dependent on the man and/or 'simply' choose the man over the child 😢. I agree the timing of Mia Farrow's accusations is suspicious and smells of revenge, but I also agree that Woody Allen is a shifty creep, whatever he may or may not have done to Dylan, specifically, and it seems very dangerous to me if even sensible professionals like Dr. Grande brush over his weird behaviours as though they mean nothing. Because that is how abusers stay undisturbed and go undetected for all too long a time. It may not stand up to the law (,yet) (sadly, the minority of true child abuse cases does). But in my opinion, in real life, one has to try to be aware of the subtle (or not so subtle) signs of abuse and take them seriously, otherwise one is not so much different from the mothers who got an inkling (or even red flags) and chose to ignore or downplay them. And it is hard, I agree, one often does not know what to think or do. One does not want to do an injustice to anyone. Non-action, however, can also be a statement and and action, one that is enabling offenders. Very difficult!
@@jadepaulsen8456 Clearly you don't know me and what I've suffered. I still have difficulty saying it aloud. But I still don't believe Dylan. I infer you've gone through something. I'm sorry and hope you find peace.
@@ember1794 Some good points. But I argue your points with these 3: 1) pedophile rarely violate only once 2) they rarely vary the age group as dramatically as he's accused (Dylan 7, all others late teens) 3) with as media coverage as Woody has gotten, they've been investigated and allowed to adopt 2 girls.
Her being a failing mom doesnt automatically clear him tho. Dylan never changed her story and there is enough to show that the guy is a creep and has a thing for very young girls
You said in the end that it was a one time thing for Allen, but his relationship with Soon Yi and the stories about his acting strange arounc Dyland do make it seem as if was not entirely out of the blue.
Plus, he adopted two girls with Soon Yi. Who knows what he did with them. Not to mention that in many Allen films the story revolved around a mature man's inapporiate relationship with a teenager.
Their adopted son- Moses Farrow-- is a therapist in CT, focused on adoption issue. He also has a UA-cam channel. It would be interesting to see an interview between the two of you-- and even more for me since I have such respect for both of you.
36 here. I grew up in a very liberal minded home. I was allowed to watch and listen to a lot of stuff. I was NOT allowed to watch any Woody Allen movies. My mother said he was a sick and horrible man and that we wouldn’t support his disgusting habits.
@@PhoenicianPrincess88 I don’t think she met him personally but she did meet different musicians from back in the day and she said some were cool and others were creeps.
@@jrbr549 you seem to be quite opinionated considering your bold statement from a single sentence I’ve written. Interesting. Edit: I’m sorry, a few sentences. Wouldn’t want you trying to argue trivial details like that now.
She may not even be aware that it is false. Mia Farrow has given positive reinforcement for Dylan’s entire life for talking about this abuse story. I think Allen is creepy AF, but I don’t think he did what he is accused of here.
@@miajackson3559 I also find it disturbing that people are willing to believe a man who became involved with and then married his partner's child, over a credible adult woman's account of what happened to her when she was 7 years old. Those who are trying to discredit what Dylan's awareness was as a child aren't considering that she is an adult now, remembering the same experience. She knows whether she was violated or not. ( And to those who want to defend his marriage, because she was of age and not his legal daughter, keep in mind that Soon Yi was his girlfriend's 10 year old child when they met ).
What seems to be washed over a lot is the fact that Allen was really weird and Dylan spoke up right away and very young. It’s the one incident that is focused on but he was seen being inappropriate her whole childhood.
It's court custom to award custody to the mother. It takes a powerful persuasion to take children from the mother. Unless CFS is involved. They can take anyone's kids for any reason.
I think you make a really fair argument. When I read about these allegations years ago, I had a visceral reaction of disgust and felt like I knew it in my gut to be true (I mean look at the guy and his movies), but your point about people wanting to raise the bar of justice to stop this behavior really struck a chord with me. I totally get that and looking at the evidence or lack thereof as laid out in your video I can say I pretty much agree with where you landed on this. Maybe he behaved immorally in some other ways towards Dylan or like romancing/grooming a teen girl but that doesn’t mean he’s guilty of this specific allegation and criminal conduct as it pertains to Dylan. I mean there are a lot of creeps in Hollywood who relish the opportunity to be around young aspiring actors/models/singers etc and manipulate them into marrying once they come of age. I really respect Ronan Farrow for his journalistic work exposing Weinstein. If Dylan was coached, that’s pretty despicable of Mia Farrow, but maybe both Mia and Woody have stretched the truth in this situation in order to make themselves look innocent or completely in the right.
New York Times: A state's attorney in Connecticut said yesterday that he had "probable cause" to prosecute Woody Allen on charges that he sexually molested his adopted daughter, but had decided to spare her the trauma of a court appearance. The state's attorney in Litchfield, Frank Maco, said he had drawn up an arrest warrant for Mr. Allen, but then decided not to pursue the case. ~ PUBLISH DATE - September 25, 1993. - It is true that he was never tried.
This makes me so mad because when a child is molested, it's the child's word against the abuser. There often isn't any physical evidence that someone touched you. So many victims never get justice because of this. I think he did it. He clearly has a pattern of crossing boundaries. Dr Grande's been watching too much Jordan Peterson and it shows.
The kind of s[redacted]l abuse that a man commits on a female child with his head in her lap (and supposedly between her thighs), isn't likely to leave traces that a pediatrician or any other doctor would be able to later find. It all remains a "he said, she said" kind of a case. There wasn't any material evidence found because the perpetrator was too smart to leave any, but there still could've been a lot of things actually happening. But we'll never know the truth in such cases for as long as babies won't start to get born with in-built body cams. One thing I am sure of, is that no matter how many witnesses and testimonies would be gathered in this case and mo matter how consistent it would be, Woody Allen is too famous and influential to ever be charged and sentenced for anything. And all sort of Hollywood and international actors will keep acting like there was absolutely anything suspicious about his past, and will go to all lengths to get a part in his movies to forward their careers and get awards. If the girls' testimonies are truthful, I don't believe it was either his first or last time he involved in such behaviors. He was just finding his victims elsewhere and covered his traces better than Weinstein.
Had to stop, because I was triggered. Not being believed is a big part of the trauma. (Note: I didn't get far enough to figure out which way you lean.)
I started breathing rapidly when I heard something like "the psychology of why children lie". Then I turned it off. Maybe it should have a trigger warning.
@@kellibabb6141 I mean it's good to listen to the evidence. The kid was believed and an investigation began. Can't just blindly believe everyone that's how lives are ruined. You should believe that there are allegations and then investigate them
I investigated child abuse for 20 years during my career. The general public would be amazed at instances where children are either intentionally or unintentionally coached to accuse a parent of abuse. These accusations almost always occurred during a messy divorce or separation. Sometimes the coaching accusations were obviously intentional. At other times, the parent may suspect something and then ask the child leading questions. After a few leading questions, the child is agreeing with the person asking the questions. Before long, the parent and child have convinced themselves something terrible happened and the snowball occurs. At times the parents get so caught up in their perceived betrayal, they forget about what it is doing to the child. This is not to discount that children are abuse, because there are many children who are abused. A qualified forensic interviewer should always be used when interviewing children who may be abused. They are qualified to pick up on those subtle responses that may indicate a false allegation. However, no one is a mind reader and in the end, children must be protected, even when there is not enough probable cause for an arrest.
Most of the time about 98% of the time children are not coached are being honest.
HALF TRUE. Debbie THANKS for being HALF right. Parent? LOL. wo-MEN are exclusively the ones making FALSE accusations, it is almost never the Father
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@@bhaktibhakti2601no it's 90 percent.
@@ichibonfriend2923 98% of rape/sexual assault claims are LIES. It's also a tactic that's used against MEN in divorce. Mia Farrow was thoroughly investigated and deemed NOT credible. ALSO Woody's other son says $MeToo is bullshit and his brother Ronan is racist & antsemitic and is deliberately targeting Blacks & Jews for false accusations. FACT!
The entire situation is terribly sad.
Will you be able to make psychological analysis for Tiger Wood? How internalization process occured between father to son? Thanks in advance.
@@rahajengutami535 may I ask what it is you are talking about
For the kids, yes very much so
No clinician can say "No sexual abuse has taken place", they can only say whether they have found evidence of it
And no one found evidence of it. Case closed!
@Roodi Graffoodi hearsay my friend. Add in daily coaching which Nanny Thompson witnessed and quit over and the fact that Groteke told Thompson she regretted saying 20 minutes when it wasONLY five. And this is also in Thompson’s Affidavit given to the Court. It never happened. There are three liars. Mia, Ronan and Dylan.
@Dotard Trump I don’t know maybe Mia can prove invisible dragons like the way she proved the imaginary abuse!
@Roodi Graffoodi hearsay. The only witness is Dylan. No one witnessed the alleged abuse. Case closed! There is no physical trauma either!
@Dotard Trump exactly and Dylan did not prove it! She said it. That’s not proof!
Mia Farrow’s brother spent approximately a decade behind bars for the sexual abuse of two very young boys...... there’s something very strange about this entire Mia verses Woody thing. What a mess.
I'd say in general it's probably not a good idea to marry your stepdaughter, even if she is significantly younger than you and adopted. That alone would insinuate the likelihood of guilt to me. But, hey, that's just me. I haven't seen the documentary because I don't have HBO. But I've always found it kind of disturbing that he married his stepdaughter. That's just weird.
Agreed. I’ve seen it and it’s disturbing and very manipulative behavior when one party has more resources.
More than weird, demonic
@@nicolej615 Woody didn't have more resources than Mia, Mia had very influential friends, in particular she did things like try to get Frank Sinatra to put out a hit or assault on Woody Allen. Soon Yi and Allen started hanging out because Mia wanted Allen to start becoming more acquainted with the children of hers that weren't from her partnership with Allen. That's why they didn't have a father-daughter relationship, Allen didn't spend a lot of time at Farrow's residence and Soon Yi was often with her father Andre Previn. After starting to meet up they began to bond over Mia's abusive behaviors and came into a loving relationship afterward. They remain married to this day and have two adopted daughters that have only good things to say about their parents.
That’s not good enough to acuse sb of rape or pedophilia
“Insinuate the likelihood of guilt”: that’s a new one.
Soon Yi isn't his stepdaughter.
I don't really understand how a child is supposed to be believed then? The mum should continue a cordial relationship with the child abuser so as not to seem vindictive? And I don't get why allen's proven creepy actions with the daughter he married and the many reports of him acting creepy with Dylan don't count as evidence for him having these tendencies. I feel like we're too ready to excuse the creepy behavior of creepy men and try to find some benign explanation, when most of us know what normal parenting and a normal relationship between an adult and a child looks and feels like.
By the same token, you seem to be ready to excuse the testimony of other children in the family that reported that Mia was heavily coaching all of them. I agree with Dr Grande here. This story is too fishy.
@@andyiswonderful yeah, but Dylan is a grown ass woman now and she never changed her story. And it’s kinda fucking important what SHE has to say. Let’s not make her into some helpless child by assuming that she was manipulated by her mother. She is almost 30 now. She is a grown woman, with her own power and agency. This is something that dr Grande seems to have forgotten. I’m not saying that this situation is black and white, but there are so many excuses made for a man who married another adopted child of Mia Farrow.
@@nicolajane7389 if only we lived in a society where a woman's testimony was treated as fact and the rights of men meant nothing smh it's so unfair how a man can accuse a woman of abuse but have to provide evidence and yet if the situation is reversed and a woman accuses a man of abuse, she also has to provide evidence! How sexist is that?!
@@laythadrian5705 You do know this is a woman’s world don’t you? Ask any divorced man.
Exactly, thank you. I’m so disappointed in this analysis, as well as the leaving Neverland analysis.
You know life is screwed when a mother feels she has to make it a point "no you can't have sex with my kids" like wtf lol that's so sad
It is more common than you think.
@@thereal4113 Yeah, we had a psychiatrist that we consulted with once a month related to work and one day he casually mentioned that when he's had group counseling sessions, he's heard women casually mention sleeping with Dad. Sleeping in the bed with dad, as in it was so annoying when Dad would snore and wake me up. They acted like this was absolutely normal. Because when you're a kid, whatever is happening in your family is normal.
Is it so inappropriate to sleep in a bed with your dad whencyou're a kid???? He's your dad! I know there are sick parents but being this walled off from physical affection isn't everybody's culture.
@@Mehki227 I'm pretty sure that a kid sleeping in the same bed as his or her parent is pretty normal. Pretty much everyone I know has gone in to their parents room at one point or another to sleep with their parents.
Woody groomed Dylan, Soon-ye, and likely Mia
Dr. Grande, to call Woody's deplorable relationship with Soon-Yi as "poor boundaries" isn't good enough. It's deplorable and devastating.
Yeah usually I agree with him. He's totally off on this. Investigations on child sexual abuse was not exactly gold standard in the 80s. Child psychology research had completely changed how and when children are interviewed, he's acting as if this is contemporary. Dr. grande left off that most children do not lie about abuse.
I really enjoy Dr Grande but find him so off on child abuse cases. His review of Kelly-Anne Conway’s daughter was off.
Not saying Allen is guilty, but plenty of predators offend casually and never get caught, particularly powerful men.
Yeah I am extremely disappointed in Dr Grande. He appears to give men the benefit of the doubt more often.
@@tradwitchmorgana6933 Never get caught, then how did you check that? By just presumption like this?
@@rockugotcha the police told my mother that while there was no physical evidence, and therefore would be no prosecution, that they suspected abuse and would not put me back in the situation. That was in the 90s. I believe or maybe just hope the attitudes of the police would be much different today.
Sometimes this type of abuse is not always evident. A five year old can understand the word “game” and not understand this trusted adult is doing something wrong to them. Many of these people are clever and creative. I wasn’t, I was playing a game...
They can also understand the concept of getting someone in trouble and be hesitant to speak against someone they love even if they’ve been abused. I’m so sick of children being ignored based on people thinking they’re too young or that they’ve been “coached” somehow. People have no clue how difficult it is to talk about this shit even as an adult. Also yeah just because there’s no physical evidence of abuse doesn’t mean there was none. What physical evidence does a touch leave?? None, but the psychological effects can last a lifetime.
@Katie Abrahams has it been roundly debunked? When did that happen?
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the absence of evidence does not provide the evidence of absence, nor does it “thoroughly debunk” the claims.
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@Katie Abrahams she was not an adult when the pictures were taken and he was a “father” in that family unit.
@Katie Abrahams I can admit that I love some of his films but these accusations are 100% credible. Also, his marriage to Sooni at *minimum* proves that he has a gross attraction to women that at his age, he could be a father to. I wonder if you’d change your opinion if you did a little more research and see what you find on the other side of the argument. I hope you have a good day💖
I can barely even understand who adopted who.
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Don't feel bad. Mia Farrow has 14 children, 4 of whom she gave birth to with at least two different fathers; and another 10 she adopted over the years, three of whom have since died. Some of her children were also adopted by the partners in her life, others were not. You really need a large sheet of paper and several magic markers to figure it all out.
@@pjacobsen1000 --- Seems that to Farrow, "family" is a type of vanity.
@@pjacobsen1000 cynicism.....
@@pjacobsen1000 Thanks for the summary and thanks for the ahhh moment from your use of "whom".
You don't think the themes of Allen's work (older man with much younger woman) and his relationship with SoonYi lean toward the idea that he could have been "grooming" Dylan? I think it's pretty likely that he groomed SoonYi. She was "barely legal" when the nude photos were discovered. But I understand the importance of the presumption of innocence and reasonable doubt.
Very good comment!!
She was 20 and a psychology major in university.
@@ember1794 why, it has inaccuracies
@@whychoooseausername4763 And he was her stepfather
@@whychoooseausername4763 she may have been 20, but her actual birthdate was never really known. She was an abandoned child and they just guessed. Also, its documented that when she was first adopted, she couldn't speak any language and had learning disabilities. Soon Yi herself has stated that she started spending time regularly with Allen when she was a junior in high school although, allegedly, the sexual relationship didn't start until after she graduated.
When you say that he made movies about Allen with "younger women" don't forget to point out Manhattan is about a relationship between an older man and child. The girl is 17 in the movie.
Eh it was the seventies and teenagers are different than small children
@@themadmattster9647 Were the laws different then? I doubt it.
Exactly. Manhattan was always a movie that creeped me out. Very indicative to woody Allen as a person. That’s not the only movie of his that involves significantly younger women.
@@Julia-um4rv The age of consent law in New York is 17. In 1979 and today.
And the actress Mariel Hemingway was actually 16. And Woody tried to get her to go to Paris with him. She declined when she realized they would be sharing a room.
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You know something is not right when an old man marries his child’s sibling ....smh
Exactly! Even if people do not believe Dylan, he had still done and said horrible things.
Or hides away with a female minor and gets caught with his head in her lap.
@@OstblockLatina Artrese is pointing out Woody Allens character not denying what happened to Dylan.
What is horrible in this..Romans and Greeks had a common practice of marrying within the family. In Hindu mythology and Islamic culture it is openly practised. He did not marry his blood, the barriers and taboos are for people who are emotionally and intellectually suppressed. Not everything in a relationship like that is sexual or perverse, that only shows the mindset of people who point fingers.
@@rishabhaniket1952 You can’t take examples from the ancient Greeks and Romans to justify a modern day act. Don’t forget about the people who it affected, the way which Mia discovered the photos. Read my comment fully though, the words WOODY said in the documentary helped for me to draw my own conclusion.
I just finished part 4 of the documentary. It's hard to really know 100% what happened but Allen seemed like a slimy guy who had boundary issues to begin with.
I’m not sure if he did it or not but at the very least he was extremely inappropriate.
Little more than boundary issues. He's a predator.
@@monsterultrawhite TRUE predators usually have multiple accusations against them
And why, then, knowing this, did Mia ALLOW him to be in her (their) life? When this happened, in the early 1990s, I read Maureen Orth's account in Vanity Fair. While allowing for the possibility that Allen is guilty of sexual misconduct with Dylan, I was appalled that Mia didn't have the sense, the strength, the morals, to kick Woody out of their lives...IMMEDIATELY! Instead, she tells all these instances of Woody's odd, inappropriate, and yes, SEXUALIZED behavior toward Dylan, yet, all the while, allowing Dylan to run around naked, or just in her panties, KNOWING Woody was too intensely focused on Dylan. I think Allen and Farrow are both strange. I don't know if Woody touched Dylan's private parts in the attack or not. I DO know that Mia had concerns about Woody's behavior with Dylan and failed to side...immediately with her children! Why? She loved being one half of New York's intellectual/artistic/cultural "power couple". She loved the fancy vacations, the money, the roles in his films, maybe the sex, the companionship. Even AFTER accusing Allen of abusing Dylan, she wanted to star in the MOVIE they were working on! He told her she was "nuts" (she is) and called Diane Keaton to do it instead. Again, I agree with Dr. Grande, there is reasonable doubt about Mia's claims. I don't think either Allen or Farrow are particularly stable or moral people. If Mia had been such a protective mother, imho, she would have not brought him into her huge family without being married. She would have filed for divorce when he (allegedly) put sunscreen slowly, through the cracks of Dylan's naked buttocks...and the kids would be wearing CLOTHES!! My parents never had my sister and me running around topless as kids. It is immodest. I sound old fashioned and, when it comes to family, I guess I am. Mia was starstruck and power/fame addicted and that's why she stayed with Woody despite her concerns. Thank you, Dr. Grande, for another excellent analysis.
I agree. But LEGALLY, it was never proven BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. People often confuse heavy emotional topics with actual legal guilt and this case is a real example of that. While I believe Dylan wholeheartedly, if I was on a jury with this evidence I would not be able to convict him.
I can’t get over him marrying what essentially was his stepdaughter. My husband is not my girls biological father and if he married one of them, I don’t know what I would do.
WA and MF were never married. My guess is that both are atheists though Mia had some sort of reckoning post-Soon Yi and Woody and got some of her 14 kids Baptised. They always maintained separate apartments. It is sad that now nobody sees Mia's flaws...only Woody's, even though, I find both of them highly suspect and deeply flawed.
@Loulou Bos that's a technicality... he was seen a father figure growing up... so you think it ok to sleep with your gf daughter after she graduates HS??? Because that's what he essentially did... just because he didn't put a ring on it doesn't mean he didn't comfort he like a father growing up etc.
@@donnaross5105 I agree with you there. She is flawed. She came off really strange and her playing the videos she made of her daughter were really tasteless. He relationships with her children also seem off. I truly feel bad for all of them.
@Loulou Bos he’ s just the bio father of her freaking brother, what’s the big deal, right? 9_9
@Loulou Bos with your comment, you put emphasis that he was not a father figure to her. And I am just rolling my eyes hard.
Woody Allen did change his story at least once: When told the police found evidence of his DNA in the attic, he said maybe he had been in there.
Well, it was his own attic so...
@@Somegirl811 It wasn't. It was Mia Farrow's attic in her country home. He'd made a big deal about how he couldn't and wouldn't have ever gone in it because he's a claustrophobe and a germaphobe. But his hair was found in it.
@@Catbooks Mia would have had access to Woody's hair.
@@Catbooks A hair is not like blood, semen or saliva because it can easily be transferred from one location to another, either on purpose or by accident. Even if it wasn't planted there by Mia, it could easily have been brought into the attic on someone else's clothing.
Statistically, it doesn't look good for Woody Allen. The FBI estimates only 8% of sexual assault accusations are proven false.
He does however have a great many traits of an extremely manipulative groomer of young women.
Grooming is a feature of every relationship. If there is no grooming then you are not in a relationship. So you are basically just saying he's a charismatic person. Other extremely manipulative groomers include Donald Trump, Barack Obama, Joe Rogan and Dr Todd Grande.
Isn't 'grooming a term used for pedophilic predation (hence predation of prepubescent children)? In what sense can a young adult be "groomed"? That seems to be an expansion of the idea that trivializes child abuse and also negates a young woman's ability to choose a consensual relationship for herself. A middle-aged man dating and marrying women who are decades younger might be sleazy by contemporary standards, but "groomer" seems like an exaggeration here.
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That’s nonsense and a disgusting, harmful thing to say. Grooming children for sexual abuse is real and a crime.
@@judyives1832 Exactly, and it is women with this this kind of cavalier attitude, which is why you cannot count on mom or women to protect children. Too often, they turn a blind eye, they don't believe their own children, and either actively or passively are participating in the abuse of their children. We read about it every single day in the newspaper and you're right, it's disgusting.
@@unitedfools3493 You're of course completely right but don't expect many thumbs up here lol. Even though you are replying to a comment that specifically says "young WOMEN", not children, you are still going to get a barrage of comments telling you that grooming kids is wrong and kid molesters should be shot. That's UA-cam comment section for you.
Long prior to the affair with Soon-Yi coming to light, Mia and others had concern over Woody’s bizarre behavior with Dylan. He was obsessed with her, always with her, taking her aside etc...In all of the photos, little Dylan looks miserable! The psychiatrist confirmed it was inappropriate behavior and No didn’t confirm sexual abuse but there wasn’t necessarily literal abuse at that point; he was grooming her the whole time for years. She says he used to stick his head in her lap and breathe deeply, teach her how to suck his thumb! She gives spontaneous detail of the situation; not a rote retelling as if she was coached. The experts concluded no evidence of coaching. I just think Woody’s fierce PR and legal teams did a number on Mia, portraying her as a bitter, scorned woman. I think he’s guilty as can be!
Yes, yes, yes! Also, I think others may have different experiences with 7yr olds than I do! I could never convince or coach my 7yr old to lie so smoothly and consistently. Dylan has a PHYSICAL reaction to those memories. Could they be contrived? There is alot of reasonable doubt here because WA hired a powerhouse PR and law team, who got to work right away with probably every resource at their fingertips. I don't think that fact should me minimised. Powerful men have gotten away with terrible things since the beginning of time.
@@zarinahs of course you couldn't convince them to lie consistently. That's why her stories weren't consistent and still aren't. Are we just going to all pretend that there wasn't a panel of experts in childhood SA who spent months looking into this to determine that her stories didn't add up and weren't rooted in reality? Everyone who has made claims painting him as a creep conveniently are friends of Mia and somehow never had anything bad to say until Mia started her campaign against him. It's easy to find friends who will back someone up, Woody has plenty on his side too. That doesn't make good proof. Over the years Dylan's stories have varied drastically and she has said multiple times during the investigation that nothing ever happened. When she first went to the dr. with Mia, and was pushed to tell what happened, she said that Woody touched her shoulder.
The experts had 3 possible options. 1) she was actually abused. 2) she made the story up, out of confusion or distress or for attention 3) She was coached into telling the story. The experts concluded that she was not actually abused! This is the key part everyone overlooks. They did not have enough evidence to claim that she was coached, only that her stories were untrue. None of the stories made sense or added up, and were wildly inconsistent, and the behavior she exhibited was not in line with a child who had suffered from sexual abuse. To use the conclusion of the experts that there was no evidence of coaching as proof that he committed the crime when his name was cleared is honestly absurd.
@@tikusblue The mere fact that he puts his face in her lap and obsesses over her, WHICH ARE KNOWN FACTS, is abuse! Of course he went beyond that but even if he didn’t, he’s a creep and shouldn’t be left alone with children.
@@Lulu-kt6gr There's no "of course." Can't stand Allen and I think he's a selfish creep. But I don't think he abused Dylan as she and Farrow have claimed.
You should also be aware of the morally shady past of Farrow. She had an affair with an older married man, whilst she was friends with his first wife, who felt bitterly betrayed. Farrow went on to marry Andre Previn, who is the legal father of Soon-Yi, and the man she first knew of in a fatherly role. Both Soon-Yi and Allen have claimed that Allen wasn't any kind of father to her etc., but of course they'd say that. Still, it could be true as Soon-Yi first lived with Farrow and Previn, and Allen didn't come into the picture until Soon-Yi was older. Even then, he never lived with them, and he and Farrow maintained separate residences. And with so many children, with different fathers (Farrow had biological twins with Previn, as well as adopted ones), it would be conceivable that Soon-Yi didn't spend much one-on-one time with Allen at all. I mean there were a lot of kids of different ages around.
And there have been stories of Farrow's abusive and manipulative behavior towards her children - way before all of this, going back to before the Soon-Yi affair scandal broke. There's also been instability and tragedy (arrests as teenagers, AIDS, suicides) in the lives of Farrow's adopted children. There have been stories that Farrow favored her biological children, especially doing upon young Ronan to the exclusion of the other kids.
When I was a really young child, I almost fell prey to the teenaged son of a neighbor. My parents wouldn't have believed it even if I'd told them then, which I didn't. They trusted our neighbors a lot. But I never told them because I had no clue really what exactly was wrong. I didn't realize being so young, not even 5, that I was being groomed, so I couldn't even have explained it in a way that conveyed a threat, even if I had the vocabulary. Anyway, so I'm not insensitive to the victims of such abuse. But I don't believe that it happened. I think Farrow convinced Dylan that it happened. Farrow exerted a lot of control over those children, and I can see exactly how they could be brainwashed into believing something false. In fact, I remember my father once trying to convince me that I'd done something (when I was young, but older than Dylan was) which I hadn't. I knew it wasn't me. But he almost had me doubting myself - and I wasn't close to my father, I'd always been a resistant, "stubborn" child, as far as he was concerned. Maybe if he'd kept at it, I would have come to believe his version of events. I can imagine how a child of Dylan's age could be convinced by the constant pressure and influence of her mother, now that Farrow was her only parent.
This whole debate reminds me of a Chris Rock joke about OJ Simpson. He said that if OJ had been a regular guy like a bus driver, no one would have been defending him. He'd be known as "OJ the bus-driving murderer". That's how I feel about Woody Allen right now. No way anyone of non-celebrity status does all the things known and witnessed by others without being seen as suspect and shady as all get out, *especially* with an accusation made by an adult child who has never changed her story.
AriD2385 - except that Dylan has changed her story several times, beginning with her first telling her pediatrician that Woody Allen had touched on the shoulder. Then Mia Farrow returned her to the same doctor one day later with a different account of where she had been touched.
OJ was guilty. Allen, perhaps. OJ is a turnstile-jumping murderer; Allen may merely be a man of low character.
But Mia doesn't seem credible, and Allen does. OJ confessed, but if you listen to the evidence here, you learn that there is "no evidence" of abuse.
OJ did it in a fit of rage. He did not like the idea of some young guy boning his wife.
Seems very easy to normalize a creepy behavior, such as marrying your girlfriend’s adopted daughter while there’re serious doubts the “relationship” started while she was a minor... he was over 60!! But of course, he was Woody Allen. I know it’s not a crime, but speaks volumes of his moral and boundaries. And it seems that Dylan’s mistake was to be a child when the abuse occurred... too easy to destroy her story especially 20 years ago. How many cases Dr. Grande analyzed before given more credit to a behavior like this. We know that the fact he wasn’t found guilty in a trial is not all, we know better than that, how easily money, power, connections can influence a verdict and society opinion.
It seems that no one can separate the, albeit unusual, relationship between Allan and Previn, with paedophilia. The two are diametrically opposed. If law no longer matters then there's no hope for anyone. All Dylan needs in either case is to be given support to heal, not to be paraded in front of the world to punish her mum's ex. Dylan has become her trauma, where is the healing for her? When will she be put first?
The relationship started when Soon-Yi was 21 and Wood Allen was 56. A big age gap for sure, but only slightly more than the age gap for Mia Farrow and her previous marriage to Frank Sinatra (21 and 50 respectively).
@@rory7590 Exactly! No one usually mentions that. Good point.
@@rory7590 What makes it even creepier is that both Soon-Yi and Mia were children when they met their respective husbands.
Soon-Yi was 10 years old when she first met Woody, who was dating her mom Mia.
Mia Farrow was 11 years old when she first met Frank Sinatra, who was married to Ava Gardner, the woman whom Mia’s father had an affair with:
*”I had met Frank Sinatra eight years earlier, when I was eleven, having dinner with my father at Romanoff’s restaurant. ‘Pretty girl’, he had joked, and my father returned, ‘You stay away from her’.”*
- “What Falls Away” by Mia Farrow
Not to bog you down with too many facts, but WA was never on trial. He was never charged with nor found guilty of any crime, because the child abuse investigative teams (2 independent ones at that) concluded that the allegations of sexual abuse were completely unfounded, i.e., no crime was committed. One team went so far as to say that they believed that Dylan had likely been coached by her mother and they recommended therapy for Mia. Furthermore, there was (and is!) absolutely no evidence to support the argument that WA influenced anyone with his money or power during these investigations. However, it is interesting to see how power (that of Ronan and Mia) is influencing society's opinion today. Ah, yes, "how easily money, power, [and] connections can influence a verdict and society['s] opinion" in this age of social media.
One final comment: If you don't pay attention to the facts here, then you run the risk of persecuting an innocent man. Are you comfortable with that?
Anyone who's sneaking behind the back of an adult woman he's having a relationship with to go after her teenage daughter is suspect - sexually, ethically, and morally. He was coming into the home and at some point was eyeing the daughter and sneaking around in her home, behind her back, to go after her kid. Why is anyone *not* having a problem with that??? As Dr. Phil has said [not a fan but every now and then he says something right], when you let a man that is not the father of your children [Not getting into dads also being predators and moms too - this is about mommas' boyfriends], you just gave access to your kids. Predators are wherever kids are - your home, playgrounds, summer camp, scouting, sports, church - kids there? Predators are there. I think he gave it an 85 percent chance your child will be a victim. How many momma's boyfriends 'discipline' a child to death???
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There is no such thing as objective morality. World is a free-for-all fight that most of you dont understand before you get wrecked by someone who does.
She was not a teenager. She was 20 yrs old and made her own choice. Sucks for you but women have rights also.
@@nononsense4933 No she wasn't when it started. He was sleeping with her while she was in high school at the age of 16 or 17 years old.
@@ilkkarautio2449 Bwahaha! "Most" don't get it, but you do oh superior one? Give me a break.
Allen seems incredibly Narcissistic to me. How he talks about having "saved" Soon Yi just sounds so predatory and like grooming. Adults can be groomed too. Especially young adults.
She was saved from Mia's household. In a very real sense, her relationship with WA totally freed her. And I don't think WA is narcissistic at all. He's actually quite humble and self-deprecating. You should watch him being interviewed.
They’ve been married for 23 years.
@@allisonmpelette You have got to be joking. Woody Allen is a textbook narcissist. And I've watched him being interviewed many times. You don't know anything about narcissism if you're unable to see it.
@@Catbooks I replied to this yesterday, but I don't know what happened to my reply. So here I go again: I disagree with your statement that WA is a textbook narcissist. He is simply not interested in seeking or getting attention and admiration (never goes to award ceremonies and rarely gives an interview). He may be somewhat lacking in the empathy department (esp. in the Mia days) but this does not make him a narcissist. People on the autistic spectrum also struggle with empathy. Not that I'm saying WA is on the autism spectrum. I'm not. Perhaps it's more like an anti-social disorder (he is fairly reclusive, and by his own admission leads a quiet and mundane life). The nice thing is he's found happiness with Soon-Yi and their daughters, who all support and love him ... and everyone seems to be happy and mentally well-adjusted. The Farrow trio on the other hand ... now maybe there's where you'll find your textbook case study on narcissism.
@@allisonmpelette A man who marries his own child commits incest (emotional or physical). Not the healthiest or sanest of human samples. Although I would not know what to classify him as, nor do I have that right. But something is definitely not right with that individual.
A lawyer once said that he would rather be found guilty of manslaughter than innocent of child abuse.
Facts 100%
What is the psychological model for fabricated memories? 7 years old is old enough to remember a traumatic experience. Unless she is lying today, how does she fabricate a vivid memory?
I was wondering the same
If her mother told her enough, there is such a thing as memories that were “implanted.” I’ve experienced that myself. To this day, I question if I was sexually abused by a former uncle. My gut tells me yes, but I cannot be certain. I typically trust my gut instincts, as they never lead me astray, but I still cannot be certain.
@@iamcasihart yeah, but how does it works? How do you racall a vivid memory of something that didnt happen at an age when you already have memory?
Before the allegations Dylan was in therapy because she had trouble distinguishing reality from fantasy.
@@iamcasihart Totally right that we can’t be certain. Memories can be implanted- especially in young children. Mia Farrow has spent Dylan’s entire childhood reinforcing these “memories.” Dylan is indeed a victim- but not necessarily of Woody, but of her mother.
I feel like at multiple occasions Dr. Grande thinks that kids have the ability to react like adults and that is actually pretty scary to me. He downplays the fact that parents are authority figues and that kids learn from those behaviors. Babies don't pop out of the womb with all the knowledge. I really would hate for him to analyze Mary-Kay Letorenau and blame Villi for not pushing Mary-Kay away.
I agree. Dr Grande tried to sound fair, matter of fact .. but he lost me with his “ logical “ takes of defending Woody Allen by talking negatively of how Mia taped Dylan’s narratives of what happened. Mia said it was a weekend and the psychiatrist/psychologists were away so she elected to tape Dylan ASAP. We all have to remember that this happened during a time when incests , pedophilia were not talked about , Woody Allen was (and still ) a very powerful, wealthy star/producer. People could not reconcile that their favorite,talented producer /star could be the bogey man we all had been warned about. Dr. Grande also failed to mention that the parental alienation syndrome written and heavily promoted by Dr Richard Gardner . Dr. Gardner’s writings were never reviewed by his peers because of his reputation in the scientific community . He also claimed in one of his writings that pedophilia has REPRODUCTIVE values and children often times INITIATE OR WERE the aggressor in these pedophilia cases ( these claims were with no valid researches to back them up).
Yes, I saw the same concerning response in Dr. Grande’s Chris D’Elia video, regarding his abuse of a high school girl. He said he hoped they could both move on. ?!
Yep, I couldn't even finish the video because he reminds me of the mental health professionals that made me worse after my cousin raped me. He has a bias that to me reads as he isn't emotionally willing to see the truth of how there is a minority of humans that have no empathy to the point they can do things you don't believe as you see it happening. They make your normal so toxic and our culture is so abusive. Set up by abusive people that had no respect for boundaries for other abusive people to thrive. For me, it finally ended in 2015 when my last ex beat me unconscious because he was normalizing giving me concussions if I said or did something he didn't like. After a few months of that he beat me unconscious in my childhood bedroom (video on my channel) and I woke up to him laughing over my body. I realized he was capable of killing me and acting like that and I finally called the police for the first time in my life. The first time I was assaulted was 11 on public transit where a man humped me until he was hard and I felt this stick trying to poke my butt hole while in a crowded bus or something and I was talking to my dad who didn't notice. These people get off on that shit. I wish he would look into the dark web and look for what is capable because it doesn't look like he realizes what is actually happening. Like how kids like me were 12 the first time they were raped and even younger. We feel that he has a bias and I know he would have been one of the therapists I would not have told because I didn't feel safe with them. I also have recordings because I am an artist so my instinct is to record. I see that while my memory is not accurate, what I don't remember are things like names I was called. During the 1:38 min recording of me being beaten, there is a part where we left the room that I don't remember but I do remember leaving the apartment when he beat me against a tree outside. It's like my brain was just trying to delete what it could so I didn't overload and implode. I was just trying to survive the way I did the other times, freeze and huddle in a ball and babble about love. I still remember things like when he slipped my rib but I thought he broke it as he stomped on me. Now the trauma from childhood I don't have recordings of and I probably forgot details. But when he watched me sleeping at his brother's wedding I remembered him doing that after the rape as well. I def want to work on ways of helping the profession to evolve so we support GROWTH and Maturity instead of further traumatizing us. What is logical to me is working to admit the truth faster so I can work on seeing my weakness so I can grow stronger emotionally and cope in healthier ways with challenges. I send you all love and I hope you cope well with the challenges you face today 🌈💖
Plus in my experience, innocent people don't do things like marry their adopted daughter or tell their son they will give them more money if they publicly support them... His movies are grooming culture to accept his behavior when you look deeper and these manipulations are everywhere which is why I think so many of us are fed up. I am tired of all the attempted brainwashing crap and I just want to keep working towards getting healthier. Like if you agree!
What is the truth and what is healthier than that? I highly recommend asking yourself that because my life has really improved when it comes to fulfillment since that became my focus.
@Infinite Jeff Yes, that is true. But he does ask for questions and comments, as he welcomes a dialogue. I think a respectful discussion is interesting and from what I understand, Dr. Grande does too.
Dylan grown up recounts the abuse instances. I relate to this . when i was a child i did not understand i was being abused. Only until i was an adult
I belive her. I hope Allen pays for this
It's hard to say though. If Allen didn't do it, but her mother fervenly suggested and made her believe that something awful did take place, there is absolutely a possibility that those ideas were so deeply implanted in here memory that she believed them to be real. Children's minds are very malleable, so it's not out of the realm of possibility that her mother being so insistent to her that he did commit an assault that she now believes that is the case. It would be different if no one ever knew about this, and Dylan spoke out later recounting an event that happened during her childhood. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I just can't say for a fact that he did.
Exactly. Children have no language and many of us didn’t have the emotional maturity to even process it. Some of us even repress it.
@@calipigeon definitely! Its something that people that have not gone through it will not be able to understand .
@@keylitaabigail123 yeah, and don’t you find it worrisome, that dr Grande, who is apparently a psychologist, doesn’t get that?
@@fghdrdthtgfghjhdf2540 I've been through a lot of therapy and i understand and accept that other people may find very difficult to validate a victims trauma without them ever been through anything similar . That gut feeling ....those little disgusting details we know.
No indication he would be inclined to that kind of behaviour???? Really guy?
I think 2 inappropriate relationships is enough of a tendency to me. On top of his willingless to cross lines and obvious dishonesty on the phone calls to Mia.
Also no mention of the second report and the attempted cover up... that's convenient
Even if Woody Allen didn't assault Dylan, he is an absolute creep and that's enough to turn me off from watching any of his movies.
not to mention all of the women who said he tried to take it further with them when they were young actresses. he's vile.
@@sharonsekhon9475 How many women said that?
@@rl12345 how many does it take? ONE is enough.
@@sharonsekhon9475 How about none?
I feel like this guy missed a couple of key notes from the documentary, I really urge people to watch it and not just his analysis so you really get the full scope
Just a bit of speculation here, not analysis; the term ""key notes" is subjective and
@@robertgiles9124 no, when I say key notes, i mean that when he’s going over the data from the documentary he’s really missing some notes that would change how his statements come off. Like when he said that the documentary paints Moses statements contradicting the statements of the other children. That Dr. here doesn’t mention that it also contradicts Moses statements that he made to the police at the time when the event was going on. Also the Dr. here doesn’t mention how another study/interview was done after the yale report, where they claimed dylan to be telling the truth and that one of the yale report experts told the person doing the new study that she also believed dylan and not the decision they had made in the report. Again I really urge people to watch the whole documentary for themselves because this guy isn’t giving the full picture
@@davidcummings4383 Grande is very careful. I don't think I've ever heard him come to a conclusion based on speculation. Every time I watch one of his videos I almost hope he would. But he's a professional, not Nancy Grace.
@@jrbr549 i think thats fine. But I don’t like it when people leave out facts from the documentary that contradict their points. I always think it’s best to watch the whole thing yourself and you make your judgement than to just listen to someone else only give a 20 minute review on a 4-5 hour documentary. I’m not saying don’t listen to him, but do both cuz I do think he’s missing some key points
@@jrbr549 I usually agree with how Dr. Grande weighs in but I’m actually going to have to agree that key facts actually negate many of the reasons he cited as proof of Allen’s innocence :/ I’d also have to say to watch the doc yourself, I’ve watched **all** of the docs videos but this is the most misrepresented one I’ve seen him put out. Surprising
he did start the "relationship" on the sly with other adopted daughter. Where did he take those photos? A level of creepy that is hard to comprehend.
yes. incredibly awful behavior. but not really evidence about the accusation.
@@dec23 soon yi is now middle aged and has spoken about everything that happened then and now. Interesting how nobody is interested in hearing her voice or listening to her. Only in speaking for her and labeling her against her will?
@Loulou Bos Then let's open the flood gates to all men who want to groom children, as long as it isn't their daughter adoptive or otherwise.
His creepiness oozes out in his films , He’s obsessed with underage girls , I can see it in his films but somehow this is “ Art”
I saw Manhattan when it first came out. Allen has a sexual relationship with a high schooler in the movie. I think he was in his 40s. That's when I stopped being an Allen fan. Years later I read an interview with Hemingway who played the high schooler. She said she had never kissed a boy, much less a man. It was difficult for her, and it sounded creepy. Anything after that movie I can eye with suspicion.
Lol for real u release a movie like that, marry your step child, and are accused of assaulting another child. Hmmmm.
Right? And I just bet it took a lot of takes to get it just right.
@@emp9413 she wasn't his stepchild.
No one should doubt an accusation as this.
@@samlsd9711 why not?
I'd be interested in an analysis of people who "collect " children i.e. Mia Farrow and Angelina Jolie.
Very good point. They both got into nasty custody trials.
@@b.brightstar9189 Excellent point. What need are they attempting to fill by their collection of children. They adopt them and at some point forget they have them, but start an all out war if their partner wants to be a part of their lives. Mia accuses Woody Allen of abusing one of her adopted children and Angelina accuses Brad of fighting and abusing her oldest son, Maddox.
Collecting of any kind is an attempt to fill the unfillible hole in your soul. 1, 2, 10, it's never enough.
We collect what we covet. Some covet cars, or guitars. For some it's jewels, or lovers. Some mothers covet children. The collectibles inevitably lose their lustre, and are set aside and replaced with new shiny things.
How broken does a child become when they are replaced?
3 of Mia's children killed themselves.
The difference, however, is that Angelina Jolie seems genuine. She always has. None of her children, so far, are estranged from her or doing poorly in life. She also seems much more humble than Mia. Mia goes out of her way to make herself the subject of these fluff pieces that cast her as both a victim and a survivor/hero. She's been capitalizing on this story for 30 years. What's most disturbing is that she never kept Dylan's anonymity throughout this. As soon as Dylan supposedly alleged Woody of abuse she immediately picked up a video camera and spent three days filming her. Now of course most people would call a doctor or the police or talk to their child privately about this but, nope... let's get the video camera out, release the tape to the world, and completely rob a supposed victim the chance to tell their story to the world when they're comfortable.
Narcissim
Allen strikes me as someone who IF he was an abusive type, he'd be a particularly pathetic type of abuser that would somehow manipulate the victim to think that she was taking advantage of him. Again this is hypothetical
I guess his movies (though I happen to like some of them) are telling a lot about him.
@@Sweet.Mother.of.Cheesus If movies were the basis to judge someone's character and real life, it should be a good idea to investigate Scorsese and Tarantino. Would be good to see what violent evil lurks beneath their work. Suddenly, the Oscar for Driving Miss Daisy doesn't seem that bad.
@@rickyvvvvv
Tarantino as a person isn't particularly violent. He does have quiet a foot fetish tough, which can be observed in most of work. Just like Woody Allen's fascination with younger girls
Allen is extremely intelligent and this wouldn’t surprise me
You strike me as a rather gullible soul who believes what Mia planned and carried out. But this is just a hypothetical.
Regardless of whether he actually did or didn't as you say, let's please not rule out his behavior which is horrific by marrying his step daughter. Why is this not the weirdest action and indictive of a problem in his mind.. Not a crime but completely bizarre and narcissistic behavior leading into a huge possibility he is guilty
Did you not get the part where she was never his step daughter? I think spreading lies like you do here, is not a moral thing to do...kinda like a narcissistic might do. Aint hard to fact check.
Soon-Yi was not his step daughter. Your argument can go no further. Soon-Yi was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and Andre Previn.
You're just looking for someone to hate.
@@Nikes62 Get your facts right please. WA was not "supposed" to be a father figure. Andre Previn was already in that role. WA made it clear that he did not want to have anything do with all of Mia's children, adopted or otherwise. It's true he did in time develop a bond with Moses (the youngest, and first "Farrow" child, who was not a Previn and whom he later went on to adopt). WA and MF never actually lived together, and WA never even stayed overnight at Mia's. Mia adopted Dylan in an effort to get WA more involved, and eventually Mia became pregnant with Ronan (originally called, Satchel), thereby cinching the deal. Still, they remained in separate residences.
AGREED!!!!
Ronan Farrow is the spitting image of his father, and thank goodness it's not Woody Allen.
As if you knew Sinatra or Woody.
What do you mean by that?
@@maniacalmadness5419 There's a theory he's Frank Sinatra's son. Mia had been married to him before her relationship with Allen. Also, people think Ronan is too handsome to be Allen's biological son.
That's my guess, too.
He looks plenty like Frank and nothing like Woody.
@@birchlover3377 but he looks so much like him. He could find out through DNA.
When Farrow moved to Ireland, Satchel realised that the name is given to Irish children's school backpacks. Ronan was a great choice and the change was legal. I've always felt that Allen's relationship with Mia's adopted daughter was wrong, especially as Mia discovered it through finding hidden photographs of a naked Sunni. Some boundaries should not be breached.
Satchel was also the name of a famous baseball player.
He was named after Satchel Paige, Woody's favourite baseball player.
Mia admitted that he is "possibly" Frank's son. So that's false patrimony. Mia sure looks bad in all this.
3 of Mia's children killed themselves.
The pictures were not hidden. They were out in the open.
oh, he did it! his movies are always about a character, played by him, getting with a younger woman (aka girls). the fact that he had no problem getting with his girlfriend's child (soon-yi) shows exactly what kind of a person he is. also, there's no way he's ronan's father. ALSO: woody undoubtedly offered to pay off/did pay off people to take his side.
Well, there is a difference between fiction and reality, and if these movies were so revealing it begs the question as to why Mia Farrow wanted to be part of them and, in turn, have Woody Allen as a partner.
Who did he pay off or offer to pay off? Evidence please.
Sure keep spreading slander rather than actual evidence.
@@davidsheriff9274 he offered to pay off Ronan. it's in the documentary.
@@littlewingedzebra you believe who you want to believe and disbelieve who you don't vwant believe. Why do you believe Roman over Woody or Mia over Moses? I know Ronan said that Woody told him that he would only pay for his college is he supported his denials. Why would Ronan need Woody to pay for his college? Mia is a rich and famous movie star, I think she would have been able to pay for Ronan to go to college.
Whether you are okay with Woody's relationship with Soon-Ye or you think it's disgusting,, has absolutely nothing to do with these molestation charges.
The documentary is a one sided hit piece. The filmmakers were cashing in on the me too movement.
I DGAF about Mia or Woody, They are both POS. However, Woody seducing
Mia’s adoptive daughter is perverted.
Then why watch this tape if you (and I quote “DGAF”?).
I didn’t watch it. People who ASSume make an ass of themselves.
@@nursecece03 Well, if you didn't watch this video, and by inference didn't bother to try and educate yourself a little more on the subject, then you are the one making assumptions based on things you know nothing about..Allen didn't 'seduce' Soon Yi. Perverted? They have over twenty years of marriage, two daughters, a happy home life, not even a whiff of any kind of scandal, that's what you deem perverted? You obviously do give a fuck, otherwise you wouldn't have replied to the last comment in a defence and hostile manner.
@@AnthonyMonaghan I’m a native New Yorker and lived through all the headlines/stories/courtroom drama about the Woody Allen Mia Farrow.
I believe it’s perversion when a man, like Woody Allen, becomes involved with a woman, like Mia Farrow, who has an 8 year old daughter, like Soon-Yi Previn. Allen is/was considered a father figure by all. Then approximately 13 years of being with Allen, Farrow discovers he is having a sexual relationship with Soon-Yi. Allen is approximately 57 years old.
I consider this perversion.
The fact that Allen and Soon-Yi are still married does not take away from the creepiness of a father figure having seen this girl grow up seduces her.
We all have dysfunctional lives but the Allen, Farrow, Soon-Yi, is very unusual.
It’s my opinion and I have a right to it.
If you don’t like it, keep on moving on.
@@nursecece03 people keep trying to justify that relationship with... well there was never a hint of scandal in the many years they were married. Like ok if we are using that as a yard stick then why doesn't every step dad marry and have kids with the step daughters that they raised?! If it's so okay with everyone... GTFOH!! Y'all know it crosses a taboo boundary and saying that they are married so it's all good is just plain silly and kind of says more about your own morals.
If he would have met her as a 20/22 year old and NOT when she was a kid then he would just me a typical rich old dude doing what they do... but he was around for her primary years and that's what makes it sick. Why can't people see that?
I find his morality to be,,,, lacking. I don’t want to speculate on Dylan, either way she lost. I also can’t imagine the pain of being a survivor and hearing someone say they think you are lying because you were manipulated or being accused of something you didn’t do. I usually enjoy your analysis but I should have sat this one out, I feel so conflicted.
Me too. Better just to not give an opinion. Men rarely believe the victims. Very heartbreaking.
Yes, just so unnerving while it was currently happening. A time I now can’t bear to remember. I have had immeasurable revulsion for Woody ever since. So horribly sad for those children.
Yeah, same
@@jessbobess2530 His bias was clear within the first few minutes. He should stay away from commenting on anything to do with child sexual abuse and child predators, because he doesn't know what he's talking about.
@@Catbooks yeah, but he’s a psychologist. It’s fucking terrifying that psychologist posts shit like this online.
Excellent and brave analysis Doc. Mia Farrow has a very dark parental history. We dont know but It's strange that several of her children have killed themselves.
And?
Broken childhood, 14 children, devout catholic, emotionally unstable, personality disorders... Simply said a crackpot, mad as a hatter.
@E Boston one overdosed and died at 17 after a fight with Mia. One shot himself. One died in hardship and pain but wouldn't ask Previn or Mia (her parents) for help that is 3. 2 were badly abused by Mia. That is 5. She is a monster.
@@AestheticallyCand she’s a monster.-
@@bigsistahtips but woody isn’t ?
Woody Allen scores 100% plus on the creepy index!
So do many people, but thankfully the justice system does not hold that to be an imprisonable offence.
Nor even an indictable one.
And always has.
Paul Dunn was there a trial that I don’t know about, or are you basing this on your opinion of him?
@@dewilew2137 there was the custody trial that you presumably know about.
There were the NY & Connecticut investigations that led to no criminal prosecution being carried forward.
There COULD be a civil action by Dylan (remember what befell OJ?) but she's very careful to avoid even discussing that, & has even tried to pretend that the civil statute of limitations has expired!
If you'd done some research independent of this farcical documentary you'd know that
@@dewilew2137 my "opinion of him"?
How is that relevant?!
All I've said is that *being regarded as creepy* is not a criminal offence!
I did not watch this particular documentary, so I appreciate your analysis. I don't know if Woody Allen abused Dylan, but I definitely think it's completely creepy that he had an intimate relationship with his stepdaughter, and that is exactly what she was, and then went on to marry her. Ughhhh. So gross.
Don't get me wrong, him being with Mia Farrow and André Previn's daughter is creepy, but she wasn't Woody's step-daughter. Him and Mia never got married, they dated and had two kids. It's still creepy as hell but she wasn't his step-daughter.
@@davidcopperfield-notthemag397 Sorry but you are wrong: Dylan was actually adopted by both Mia Farrow and Woody Allen. You may be confused with Soon-Yi Previn, who was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and Andre Previn.
@@davidcopperfield-notthemag397 thank you for pointing that out to me. I don't know much about this mess but I do know that is exactly what it is, a huge mess.
U should watch...really well made,especially last episode
@@noelstar1456 Yes really weird and creepy. I understand that they never married but they were in a serious relationship over a long period of time and she was Mia's daughter. Whether or not he was legally her stepfather, it is completely gross and inappropriate. If I found out that my partner was creeping around with my grown adopted daughter behind my back, I'd be as pissed as Mia was. That is the ultimate betrayal, and it's disturbing and disgusting imo.
Anything done to children is the darkest most vile act ever! No excuses. It is absolutely important we as adults remember this and protect them every single second of every day.
Did you know that police budgets concerning youth under present laws can only in all practicality help to protect young people from being forced to experience statutory rape up to age 30? In addition police budgets to stop stalking behavior have had to be increased over time since the 1960's making it a lot more difficult to keep all police response times low. As more gadgets are being bought around town by more landlords in every village, town and big cities now it is not a far stretch of the imagination to assume that a lot of those drones out there too in addition to all of the nanny cams being used by a lot of parents right now some of which are being owned by bored rich landlord retirees who have hired a property management company who is going to be responsible for doing all of the hiring of trades people to do the real work of being a landlord who are not just out there hoping to stake out lucrative properties for sale. Believe it or not some of those property management companies are only being run by young ladies married to - -You guessed it - An older richer than her landlord. Not all those landlords are guilty. In this case I have no opinion one way or another.
Every single second of every day! Get in your helicopter and good luck with that.
Okay so I was a little dramatic and obviously it's impossible to keep children safe every second, but our society doesn't take it seriously enough.
@@francesbernard2445 How can a person be protected from statutory rape up to age 30? He/she has been of age for 32 years. That is not statutory rape.
@@jennyclark6183 It is a law written in the law books somewhere. Doesn't get enforced much.
A level headed, objective analysis, based purely on research and facts. Bravo!
A very refreshing take and, hopefully, a lesson to the uneducated pitchfork weilders.
You missed an important detail in your commentary: three investigators, in the days after the alleged incident, made a sketch of the attic. A train set was present. Since the documents were quickly sealed, Woody's lawyers seized on Dory Previn song without knowing what the facts were and tried to create this alternative reality. The train set was not added later, as they have suggested. Dylan mentioned it in several interviews at the time.
This raises doubt about Moses's certainty about the events. Strickland's witness does, too. I am saddened, though not at all surprised, that the men with powerful attorneys are benefitting from unconscious bias in your analysis.
Dylan was interviewed at an immediate time after the "sexual involvement/child molest" so how was Mia able to "influence" the child so completely in that short amount of time ...I believe Dylan
@@SimBol1216 that’s because there’s no actual evidence that MJ committed those crimes. Same here. Just because you BELIEVE crime was committed doesn’t mean it did. Although his videos might be speculating, Dr G tries very hard to bring facts to them hence why he always provide resources.
@@RosieGirlRose101 there is DNA and a child to women unwavering account. I have enjoyed Dr G for many yrs now but he is not invaluable nor is non bias . Dr G expects us to use our minds and not just except his analysis.
@@RosieGirlRose101 you cannot really have proof in situations where it's he said, she said, which is most of cases of child abuse or rape. So there is no way to legally pin an abuser down. And still, the abuse happens. So this logic with just looking for proof is clearly not enough.
Just because there really was a train set, how does that explain away the "Daddy In The Attic" song?
The lyrics clearly are about a father who plays clarinet (as Woody does), who uses the pretext of playing in the attic, hidden away from watching neighbors and siblings, to incestuously molest his own daughter.
The song is from more than 20 years before Woody became involved with Mia.
Are you trying to dismiss all that because the lyrics don't mention a toy train?
The one thing I found odd was Allen's response. It wasn't of disgust or anger, he simply replied "why would I choose her, why at that time"
Its an odd response to paedophilia. If it were me I would be angry i would be disgusted, not so nonchalant and dismissive.
@The Love Witch wow I didn't know all that.
I caught a clip last year of Dylan explaining and his rebuttle and I immediately thought it was a weak denial and it raised a red flag.
its the bell ringing. its the bell in our heads that alerts us to DANGER. he's a predator and highly intelligent. and he knows how to take a sunny day and cast the shadows of doubt, the nuances of trust, wherever he wants them. he said it that way because he is that way.
@The Love Witch It wasn't his "friend" who administered the polygraph, Woody deliberately sought out one of the most prominent specialists in the world.
@The Love Witch Woody sought out Paul Minor, who had been the chief polygraph examiner for the FBI and for the U.S. Army at various times. Minor personally administered the polygraph test to Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas Supreme Court hearings.
These filmmakers are charlatans, and what you think you know about Allen refusing a polygraph is just one of the many things they've deliberately mislead you about.
Like Dr Grande said, the filmmakers are just assuming/hoping that people won't do research beyond the docu series, and you're taking their bait.
Idgaf if you "just believe" me. Just get over yourself and look at the facts
@@FLK-BC And you don't know what you're talking about, having obviously not even seen the documentary. I've followed this case for decades, by the way, as have many others. Grande doesn't know what he's talking about either, when it comes to child predation and predators.
The doc said Woody Allen had hired his own polygrapher, which he did. Which wasn't acceptable by the DA, which it wasn't, and wouldn't have been by any DA conducting a criminal investigation. Take your own advice - get over YOURself and look at the facts.
As I recall, people mentioned that he would not leave Dylan alone. I'm recalling this from when the accusations were fresh. Also, the movie "Manhattan" had the lead female character be 17. Mariel Hemingway, who played the part was 17. I thought at the time eeewwwww. That was certainly evidence that he thought robbing the cradle was appropriate.
Mariel Hemingway also reported that he hit on her, too. She was 16 in real life. Ugh.
@@calmire9817 ohh so she was all of 18, still ewwww
There's a difference between 17 and 7.
@@andy_h_inc But both are under the legal age of consent. He is creepy either way.
@@bunnyspellman im assuming its also eww when 40 year old leonardo dicaprio throws away his 25 year old model girlfriend to upgrade to a new 18 year old one. Or when 50 year old frank sinatra marries 20 year old mia farrow. Men in their 30s 40s and 50s preying on 18-21 year old girls was and still is pretty common in hollywood but when you look like woody allen and not leonardo dicaprio i guess then its creepy and eww.
For all the people who keep saying that WA never lived with Mia and her kids and they were not married, thus Soon-Yi was not his stepdaughter, imagine this scenario: You have a 9yo daughter when a new family moves in next door. She plays with their kids her entire childhood and spends time at their house and they spend time at hers. When your daughter is 19 or 20, she starts dating the neighbor's 50yo father. Wouldn't you be disturbed by this? They are not contemporaries nor peers, there is a definite fucked up power dynamic there. Wouldn't you wonder when that creep next door starting sexualizing your baby girl in his mind? Is any age the right age?
Here's another scenario, you are a consenting adult, you choose someone you want to spend time with, but some douchebag decides that they somehow have the right to tell you how to live your life.
@@rl12345 It's interesting that you would instantly defend the old perv in my scenario....and I never said anything about having the right to tell someone how to live their life. I merely pointed out that the power dynamic in that situation was not conducive to a healthy relationship for the girl.
@@kristyreal I didn't defend the old person, you just immediately showed your ageist prejudice. I defended the right of a consensual adult to decide for herself what dynamic works best for her and being allowed to choose that person regardless of age, race, sex or religion. There's thousands of dynamics in a relationship, power isn't only about age.
@@rl12345 The toxic power imbalance in this scenario is not AGE, it is the fact that the man was an authority figure to the girl while she was growing up (this wouldn't even be a discussion if it was some random 50yo man she met as an adult). I agree consenting adults have the right to choose whomever they please, but in this case, he uses his authority over her to manipulate her into a sexual relationship. No one can deny that's wrong.
@Roodi Graffoodi Yeah, my scenario is disturbing enough, but WA went far beyond that. He also isolated her by driving a wedge between her and her family. She gave up everything to be with that old perv because he is an expert groomer.
You say Allen never changed his story, with regards to admitting assault this is true, but Allen's story did change early on. He initially told police he had never even been in that attic crawl space in his life, but later changed his story to say perhaps he stuck his head in a couple of times after police found his hair in the attic
You're lying. There is nothing like this in the Supreme Court document, only in Maureen Orth's 10 UNDENIABLE FACTS ABOUT THE WOODY ALLEN SEXUAL-ABUSE ALLEGATION: 8. Allen changed his story about the attic where the abuse allegedly took place. First, Allen told investigators he had never been in the attic where the alleged abuse took place. After his hair was found on a painting in the attic, he admitted that he might have stuck his head in once or twice. A top investigator concluded that his account was not credible.
The facts Maureen Orth cites as “undeniable” are either flat-out false, entirely deniable, or misleading and irrelevant due to the fact that Orth purposely omits other, more important facts that cast doubt on the allegations. As it wasn't enough, According to Maureen Orth herself: I remember, for the legal fact-checking process on the Woody Allen piece, I was in a room with the fact-checkers for eight hours. They weren’t going to allow the piece to be published until I had a written letter from Mia Farrow saying if we did get sued, she would be a witness to say what I had said was the truth from her point of view.
Everyone can Google: Why Maureen Orth’s 10 Undeniable Facts About The Woody Allen Sexual-Abuse Allegation Is Complete Bunk. and go to the fact 8 for a complete refutation.
I have followed this story for many years. I am not a fan of Woody Allen, but I cannot discern if he is guilty or not beyond a reasonable doubt. If nothing else he certainly has made some questionable decisions. He has been convicted in the court of public opinion.
I agree - I can’t discern whether he is guilty or not. One thing that makes me wonder is that except for Dylan no other victims have come forward.
Too bad it doesn't mean anything because he still gets to make films ... he hasn't been hurt by his actions... neither has Roman Polanski!
They both still get to do what they love... sans any real consequences...
I'd say it is unclear if the assault occurred. It is crystal clear he is not guilty beyond reasonable doubt. That's a high bar and there is a lot of doubt.
because people think like wo-MEN, today, logic dictates Mia coached the kids to LIE, investigators concluded.
HE WAS DECLARED INNOCENT ON A COURT OF LAW. PUBLIC OPINION DOESN'T MEAN DIDDLY SQUAT
Allen has been sus for 40 years.
And those nasty ass films with him touchy on younger woman who *throw* themselves at him in the story line 🤮
Hes an imposter
@@ijustchangedmyname7794 WA has made 50 films to date. Please name those "nasty ass" films you are referring to.
@Nothing To See Here Really? Please name these actresses
The imposters here are the money grubbing dishonest makers of this classic of the misinformation industry, this so-called "documentary"
Soon Yi Previn was 21 and Woody Allen was 56 when they started their relationship. He was never married to Mia Farrow even though they were romantically involved. Previn and Allen have been married since 1997. As screwed up as it is, this shouldn’t be minimized either; Previn wasn’t a minor when she became romantically involved with Allen. They were both consenting adults. Previn is 50 and Allen is 85 at present. Lasted longer than a lot of Hollywood or celebrity marriages. No I don’t agree with it, but not going to the judge either.
Do you find Allen’s Laser focus on Dylan emotional abuse. How do you assess someone in a romantic relationship taking nude photos of their partners daughter? I don’t think Woody Allen makes great movies but I’m a woman so maybe that colors my judgement.
His relationship with Soon Yi is creepy by any standard. However, it’s important to know that she was an adult when she engaged in her relationship with Woody Allen. The word Mia Farrow‘s daughter makes it sound like she was a child at the time. The fact that they have maintained a long and healthy relationship since that time and throughout all of this nightmare would indicate that although the relationship may be unorthodox it seems to be a loving and stable one. Everyone should read Woody Allen’s memoir where he goes into a great deal of detail telling his side of the story. This is just a four hour hectic job. He pretends to examine the issue but it only tells one side of it
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She was not an adult when he took naked pictures of her and if you believe that’s all he did then I have some stuff to sell you. They say the relationship didn’t start until she was of age but the pictures are proof that it started much earlier.
@Roodi Graffoodi Technically its not incest and there's a world of difference between 9 and 19. It may be unusual but they are happy to this day so it should be nobody else's business.
@@judyives1832 Where are these pictures, and how did you date manage to date them? Sounds like a clear cut crime to me, if this has been proven.
@@judyives1832 the pictures were found when Soon-Yi was a twenty one year old college freshman. If you believe that the pictures were taken when she was a minor, can you present some evidence to back that up.
His relationship will Soon Yi has NOTHING to do with the allegations against him.
Being adopted, this story always bugged the heck outta me. Bc youre not in a position to argure with anybody.
I really recommend following Moses Farrow on Instagram and here on UA-cam. He's a therapist with a speciality in adoption trauma (three of his siblings died - two from suicide (one by gun shot another an overdose) and one died alone in poverty from AIDS - she didn't want to be resuscitated). Two other siblings - Soon-Yi and Moses claim abuse on their own behalf and with memories of their fellow non-white adoptees in their family. Moses' story is hard to listen to - it's very brutal, traumatic and he clearly is still suffering from the abuse but he has so many wise words and does some wonderful online discussions with fellow adoptees. He is an awesome advocate for adoptees and presses for those considering adoption to address their own issues first before perpetuating generational abuse.
@@lornam3637 moses tried to say that his adopted sister having a DNR in the midst of a grave personal illness, was the same as suicide. I think every voice needs to be heard, but some people are so hurt and in pain that they can't accept change or a multi-layered reality. he fixates on the adoptee experience but doesn't help himself or anyone else by compartmentalizing and taxonomizing outside of cross-cultural comparison and statistical norms... he just takes a line of thought and runs with it pretty irrationally. he doesn't look at the origins of adoption in the region... colonialism, racism, white savior complex, he stops short at the narrative rather than the root cause. i think hes telling his truth but not considering anyone else's. a dnr is not suicide. a human taking agency and making a decision for themselves is dignified and respectable... even if you don't agree. but in his hurt... it is. 'she didn't have any other choice. she was sad. she couldn't see the light BECAUSE OF MIA.' we all have complicated relationships with our parents. parents of adopted children will not always know what to do just like parents of any child biological or otherwise do not always know what to do. but what is abuse and what is not? it is abusive to groom your ADOPTED daughter FOR MARRAIGE. it is abusive to hit your children. which is worse? if you are moses... they are in love so no big deal. but hitting a child is disgusting. sorry but there are plenty of children who are corporally punished at some point in their lives by one or more parent(s). MARRYING YOUR FATHER FIGURE... even if it feels good... IS ABUSE ON HIS PART. Moses Farrow has an important story to tell, but i don't see it as the whole story, because he does a terrible job of acknowledging some GLARING issues in the narrative he and his wealthy self-interested friends have created. LOVING FATHERS DO NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH ANY OF THEIR CHILDREN. HEALTHY MEN DO NOT RATIONALIZE SEXUALIZING THE CHILDREN AROUND THEM. HEALTHY MEN DO NOT ASK OTHER CHILDREN TO DEFEND THEIR SEXUALIZING OF TEENAGE GIRLS IN THE HOME. HEALTHY MEN DO NOT GROW UP AND CONTINUE DEFENDING THAT BEHAVIOR BECAUSE NOW THAT THEY ARE OLDER WITH THEIR OWN CHILDREN THEY SEE HOW WRONG THAT IS.
Moses is not healthy or rational, he's in pain. And as the family showed, he has been in pain for decades. Adopted children want to be loved so badly; the hollywood model of adopting 10 kids is utopic but unrealistic in fulfilling each of those children's individual needs. Even if he doesn't believe that allen was in the attic that day, abusing his baby sister, why doesn't he have any qualms about the betrayal of marrying his other sister? of cheating on his mother? of creating this rift in his family? he's hurt. mia was such a push over when it came to older men she was dating. she saw them as intellectuals... experienced... protectors. she's not without fault. but ANYONE dismissing these OBVIOUS signs of predatory behavior from allen... how can you? just how? DO YOU ALL TRULY BELIEVE the sex didn't start SEVERAL years before they were caught with raunchy photos? Remember these were polaroids not selfies in the privacy of a bedroom. He had her trust because he was grooming her for YEARS and you better believe HE GROOMED THAT WHOLE FAMILY. he knew what he was doing. they always do.
@@SoVerySasa Soon-Yi Previn's father figure was her adoptive father - the famous composer Andre Previn. It is, of course, terrible to marry your ex-girlfriend's daughter but she was college-age. It isn't the same thing at all as child abuse (of a very young child). Having to strip and stand naked in front of one's siblings is sexual abuse. Two of Moses' siblings committed suicide, Lark Song died alone. If you doubt Moses because he is an adoptee, why do you believe Dylan. I believe Dylan. I think she thinks this happened to her. But the different child authorities think the evidence isn't there. In fact they are so confident that Soon-Yi and Woody Allen were allowed to adopt two daughters - both of whom grew up without abuse and defend their beloved father. Putting myself in Mia's shoes, I can't understand why she says she would never forgive her daughter if she thinks she was groomed. The love of a parent is unconditional.
@@lornam3637 if u actually watched the documentary you are WRONG. though previn was her adoptive father they were not close as she was adopted right before they divorced. allen was her father figure and the only man regularly at the home while she was growing up. HE WAS ALSO THE ADOPTIVE FATHER OF HER SIBLINGS. he was indeed the father figure and you trying to minimize that is part and parcel of the PROBLEM.
he repeatedly talks about how "soon yi is sullen" to mia... this was to get mia to suggest he spend some time with her. don't be obtuse. he's a predator NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
Im super disappointed on your take on this you seemed to highlight her "bitter" battle with allen but never bring up how many times mia sought help BEFORE dylan made an accusation their intense relationship is something he even admitted he needed help with and he wasnt actually ALLOWED to be alone with dylan so the fact that she was missing while he was there is highly problematic. This video shows how sad it can be for victims to come forward
I agree with this. I am sure Mia was not perfect. No mother-no person, actually-is. But I believe she was protective of her children and once she figured things out was horrified. Allen kept her off-balance. You can see this in the documentary. I would never want to disclose sexual abuse and have to deal with this type of response. It would crush me. I believe you Dylan.
Agreed. I was very shocked by this lopsided take by Grande. It's a poorly researched video. He left out so many aspects that pointed towards Allen's guilt.
@@ashasekayi It's very revealing of Grande. He needs to steer clear of child molestation topics, since this only shows his lack of knowledge about the topic, and his inability to even be aware of his biases.
Agree. I would also say that Grande left out quite a lot of information that explained certain turns in the case, for example that witnesses stated that Soon-Yi was 15-16 years old when Allen started "dating" her. I also didn't get the impression that Farrow was out-of-her-mind angry with Allen about Soon-Yi and therefore do not believe she would coach Dylan to break Allen.
I agree. Anyone who speaks against the documentary instead of supporting Dylan is flying a red fucking flag in my opinion.
Thank you for tackling this complicated topic. This is certainly one of your most complex analysis and you didn’t disappoint a bit. Always on the side of reason and common sense (which isn’t always popular as we can see here in the comments). Congratulations, well done 👍
I agree. Dr. Grande, this is one of your Most trenchantly seriously analytical works I’ve seen videos ever. And you can hear it in your voice how serious you took the situation. I hate child abuse but I never believed he did it and would be more likely for me to believe it do it given my predilection against it. But the evidence just was never there and I’ve read a lot on it. I never felt good about the proximity of her finding out about his relationship with her adopted daughter and then her accusing him … I remember at the time it was just a matter of days. It just left you wondering at the time and still today what was really going on there with her? The fact of the matter is he was never charged. That tells you a lot right there. Thank you, Dr. Grande … I thought this piece was a real service on behalf of the community.
Please cover Roman Polanski, thanks Dr. Grande.
Oooo. Ya. That's a good one 👍
And Mia Farrow defends Roman Polanski. Hmmm.
Why? He'll just say Roman Polanski didn't do it. 🙄
@@AmberGraves80 that was a dumb comment.
well hold on now, dr Grande, in your calm and oh-so-centered opinion you forgot that Dylan is a grown woman now. Let’s not just assume that she was manipulated by her mother. She’s a grown woman, let’s not take away her power. She’s not a child anymore.
Yet *everyone* would deny Soon Yi her decision making power, even these years later. I'm all for supporting victims, Dylan is absolutely a victim but it's highly unlikely she is the victim of Woody, more of the obsession her Mum has for revenge. If Mia was so desperate to protect Dylan why not just do that? Why the circus? Dylan has had to spend her whole life as a victim, that's a long sentence; most parents want to help their kids heal, not relive the trauma forever.
Correct. She was a child who had grown into an adult and had has time to process her thoughts, feelings and rights involved in the matter. The statute of limitations on sexual assault in both states (NY and CT) is 20 years, where she could have pursued a criminal case against Allen with her family behind her and followed with a civil case for damages if they chose to but never did. Mia Farrow during an interview in 2006 even publicly forgave Allen but still held contempt for her daughter Soon Yi for some unbeknownst reason. There’s still plenty to unpack in this story.
@@penelopehughes-jones5265 You nailed it.
Wait a minute if a child has a history of being abused and manipulated by their mother she would carry that into adulthood. Age doesn’t automatically mean you are free from the psychological effects of a vindictive mother. Moses came forth and told of his mothers virulent behavior..
@@penelopehughes-jones5265 from what I saw in the documentary Mia did not report the incident directly to the police, Dylan’s pediatrician did bc he had to report any claim of child abuse to the authorities
How is Mia Farrow’s possible abuse against Soon-Yi Previn an argument in favor of Woody Allen’s innocence? Prévin’s abuse and Dylan’s abuse are compatible.
i was wondering how was the excuse "she was a scorned woman" a legit argument? it's not like he cheated on her with some actress in his movie, he cheated on her with her underage daughter! and an excuse for that is he wasn't parental with soon yi. he was in a relationship with mia for like 10 years. if he didn't have any parental relationship with her daughter during all that time, there's something wrong with him
Yup. One of Grandes ‘defence of the man’ arguments is that Mia was also horrible! Really?
@@tamaraaa993 Soon- Yi was not underage when they got romantically involved. Even Mia admitted that Woody was not a father figure to her in any way. She even encouraged Soon-Yi and Woody to spend more time with each other and try to develop a relationship. Something I am sure Mia really regrets now 😀
@@jobloggs7400 Woody Allen had unlimited resources with which to smear Mia and he did so at every opportunity.
@@tamaraaa993 SOON-YI WAS NOT UNDERAGE!!!
Your balanced and informative insights on this complex situation are much appreciated. Your comments made me realize how very little I know about this case.
This was not balanced. Dr. Grande needs to educate himself.
Something happened. Dylan is having to live with the ramifications of that for the rest of her life.
Yes. Nothing happened.
So you have evidence that something happened?
@@jasonm1288 no, just my supposition. It’s not a trial lol, I’m allowed to share my thoughts 😁 thankfully
She's living the ramifications of her monster of a mother. If she was sexually abused, it was likely by someone else. Look at the work of Robert Weide and Justin Levine, in print and on UA-cam. Read the accounts of Moses Farrow. Watch the Rick Worley two hour piece on UA-cam. At worst, you should be convinced that the HBO series was a Farrow produced hit piece and a hagiography of Mia.
@@jasonm1288 the suffering is blatant. But what is it ? I don't know, nobody knows, she might not be able to know herself anymore.
Also, in most cases you cover...when it is "uncertain" as to the truth...idk how you can make an assertion that Dylan is lying.. Especially when it has to do with such a sensitive and difficult to prove allegation. I'd have been much more comfortable if you had just said "I don't know" rather than calling Dylan and Mia out as liars.
I myself suffered sexual abuse that remains unproven in the eyes of the law. So you really did a huge injustice to women and kids who have suffered through that and finally spoke up.
If you know all of the facts in this case, you would also agree with Dr. Grande. To start, read Moses Farrow's blog, A son speaks out. He is also a victim. I am truly sorry for the abuse you have suffered.
@@allisonmpelette there's a very good chance moses was paid off.
@@littlewingedzebra really? what proof is there of that?
@@allisonmpelettein the documentary, ronan says woody offered him tuition, etc. in exchange for taking his side. it's not hard to imagine he offered that to others, too. moses, as was stated in the doc, had been super close to woody and was devastated when all this happened. he probably really wants to believe woody is innocent, though his initial testimony does not support that.
Dr Grande didn’t say Dylan lied. He said it’s uncertain. One side or the other could be lying. Then he analyzed why each side could be lying or not. Analyzed each side’s possible motive for lying, and doubted those motives were logical. He also pointed out that we’re only seeing one side of the story. Which is also true. He ended by indicating it’s inconclusive.
THEN he addressed the topic of false memories as a separate topic. In the intro he laid out 3 or 4 areas he planned to talk about. With false memories being the last topic.
With all that said, he still concluded that it was inconclusive. How is that biased? It’s not.
We see things through the lens of our own experiences. So our views (even memories) may be biased. The job of investigators, lawyers, and mental health professionals is to look past those biases and try to focus on the facts. In this case, as in many others, there is reasonable doubt. It’s been investigated more than once, and it’s always resulted in there being reasonable doubt. Which is why it’s never been prosecuted. Insufficient evidence. No probable cause. Which is also why the public opinion is divided on this case.
As with other highly publicized cases, the are a lot of opinions, speculation, rumors, and faulty logic being passed off as truths. It’s been repeated so often that people believe them to be true. People have been programmed to believe it’s true. Take a look at the last 4 years of US politics for example.
Sometimes legal results seem unfair. But most of the time, it’s because our criminal justice system is based on evidence that can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Not public opinion or what we think is fair.
Wherever you come out on the guilt or innocence of Woody. One thing is sure. He has horrible judgment.
Why? Soon Yi and Woody have been together for thirty years and adopted two girls, which never would have happened if he had done what Mia said. The adoption agency would check him AND. Soon Yi over and above. By the way, usually a pedophile doesn’t just stop one day. So Woody has never been accused again. Any consideration f that fact in your mind?
@@ecalose6785 Really? His bad judgement is taking up with his girlfriend's daughter. Woody didn't even break up with Mia. He went behind Mia's back and seduced Mia's daughter. Gross.
@@Meluvkatz you don’t know re Mias and Woodys relationship. At that point they were not sleeping together. So yes really. Gross? Mia went behind her best friends back and seduced her husband. She was 24 or thereabouts. Her friend? Dory Previn. Yes, tell me again how honorable Mia Farrow is. Please! You can’t because Mia isn’t?
@@Meluvkatz says Mia... who wanted to buy a kid from every continent and treat them like garbage...
Judgement doesn't exist when you're sick in the head & a worshipped Hollywood director.
I think if I found photos of my naked adopted daughter in my husbands things, and if I knew he had a history of behaving weirdly around children, I'd start wondering if the younger ones had been targeted. I might even start making up a whole paranoid movie in my head about it. This might be a large part of what happened here.
It is weird that Allen decided to have a relationship with Farrow’s adopted daughter.
odd yes, criminal no.
@@tankthearc9875 creepy is more like it.
It is not odd. It is absolutely disgusting and a big red flag.
So u dont think it's wierd that the adopted daughter decided to have relationship with Allen?
@@tankthearc9875 But he took on the role of a father figure to that family, he wasn't just some dude that Mia went out with every now and then. That is what makes it unacceptable and it casts a shadow on his intentions from the very beginning...did you ever consider that maybe he just took on the father role to get closer access to the other kids? Predators do shit like that all the time. So yes, his relationship with Soon-yi was not criminal but you have to wonder what else someone is capable of if they are willing to cross that line.
Furthermore, detailed disclosures from the children are the best evidence we have that abuse is occurring. Contrary to what Dr. Grande says about alienation, it is extremely hard to coach a very young child into reciting and remembering the complex web of lies necessary to present a credible (but false) claim of abuse. But its very easy, from a cognitive standpoint, for a child to describe something that was actually done to them...
I don’t know if he committed the crimes he was accused of, but he definitely was responsible for inappropriate relationships with his semi-step kids. I kind of wonder about his ability to form healthy emotional attachments if it wasn’t grooming behavior.
Woody Allen continues psychological therapy weekly. Like since forever.
Woody Allen stated in an interview (can still be found on the internet) that if he was caught in bed with a bunch of 12 yos everyone would say that they knew that about him. What kind of person says that? Someone who is inclined to do it.
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Or maybe someone who everyone seems so sure is guilty, despite it being unclear and him maintaining his innocence.
Get over your menopause. Woody did NOTHING WRONG
@@athalonARC With rare exceptions pedophiles always maintain their innocence.
10% of false accusations is very very low considering that most victims do not go to the police.
There has been 30 years for other "victims" of Woody Allen to go public. Not a peep from anyone, even in this Me Too era. There's a reason. He never sexually abused anyone, including Dylan. If you think that in his entire 86 years on this earth, Woody Allen abused a single person, a single time, at his estranged partner's home under the watch of a number of people, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
I, myself, believe Dylan. Long before she did an op Ed on her story. An interview he gave years ago that he gave convinced me. He spoke of very questionable behavior with other young girls.
@@kellidinit3725 Who is "he"?
@@gmh471 she. Dylan Farrow was the child that sparked the accusation. She is an adult now and released an Op Ed detailing her story.
Every man I know either has been falsely accused to a greater or lesser degree, or knows a close person who was.
My sweet husband was once threatened by a girl in high school to tell her older brothers he raped her if he didn’t ask her out. I had a boss who told me in high school he flirted with a girl at a party and she later told everyone he’d tried to rape her. My son’s teacher told me she’d falsely accused a neighbor man to “save” her father from suspicion when school authorities questioned her over her sexualized behavior. Her father and Uncle were guilty, but she didn’t want to get them in trouble…
I’m pretty sure false rape claims are exactly as common as real ones.
Excellent analysis. Now brace yourself for all the people accusing you of merely being a Woody Allen fan because you don’t support their opinion.
That is not what they're doing. They use behavior and actions as evidence.
WOODY IS INNOCENT, AND MIA LIED.
I'm one of them!
It's funny bc I always thought he was a creep and overrated as a director but come on ppl, it's clear as day this was a bullshit accusation by a crazy woman. I think Mia was projecting, due to her brother being an actual pedo, I think it's likely she herself (Mia) had been abused.
There's a podcast by the film makers (called Allen v Farrow Podcast) that has now released 3 of the 4 supporting episodes. #3 came out today and has an interview with an expert on predators (Dr. Anna Salter). They also describe that in getting the court records for the custody trial, they received audio tape recordings done by both Allen and Farrow- they are not just Farrows recordings.
@@sophiatrinity3339 Soon-Yi turned 21in October 1991, two months before the Polaroids were taken, as accepted in court by both sides.
Why so desperate to assert otherwise, despite Mia's own published accounts?
SY graduated high school at 20 & began college in 1991, her education having been delayed by early reading *difficulties*, not *disabilities* as insultingly claimed by Mia.
The romantic relationship between WA & Mia had not been exclusive (remember Mia's own comments on Frank Sinatra & Ronan?!) & had been on the wane for some time by December 1991,& of course they never cohabitated.
@@z17seattle Yes, look at Dylan's pain. I'm sure that it's real and that her mother is at the root of it. Moses was also in pain until he broke free from Mia. He lays out very eloquently the complicated emotions that went along with hating his father for the sake of his mother. Read his blog, A son speaks out. He is a family therapist specializing in adoption trauma.
@@sophiatrinity3339 Because Soon Yi had been a street kid, nobody knew her exact age...and still don't. They had a 3 year estimation..as in, she might have been 6, 7, or 8, when Mia and Andre' Previn adopted her.
@@z17seattle I didn't suggest that Soon-Yi & her age didn't make WA a molester, magically or otherwise.
I just deplore the continued lazy conflation & confusion of the 2 *separate* issues, as if an *adult* who takes up with a much younger *adult* will thereby molest a 7yo child, & am irritated about those continually questioning SYP's age when it was agreed by both sides & the court.
Dylan did not *immediately* take against her father: it took continued effort by Mia over months (& subsequent years, as with Ronan)
Read the testimonies in the transcripts.
Why do you think the child welfare experts who saw the *full* videotape "failed" to see the pain that you did?
Do you think they're squeamish & "in denial" in their line of work & daily experience over *years*?!**
Days before the allegation, Mia, in a phone call with Dr Susan Coates, described WA as evil & satanic...then asked if she thought she should marry him! (August 1, 1992)
@@z17seattle "suicidally loyal" I'll agree with you on that
Dylan's life has revolved around this allegation: how can she exist without it?
The media painting Mia as insane?
The *portion* that do certainly have a wealth of history to rely on
The majority of the media who attack WA (& the Twitterati) are determined to group him with Weinstein, Epstein, Cosby, R.Kelly,Spacey etc when there is one allegation by one person in the middle of a bitter custody dispute
This is so nasty, I wouldn't put anything past him! He saw nothing wrong with carrying on with Soon Yi, what is so shocking he diddled another kid?
Soon Yi wasn't a kid, its really unfair to deny her as a sentient human with feelings and intelligence. An age gap obviously isn't the same as paedophilia but all this mud has been thrown based on the unconventional way two consenting adults, still together decades later, met.
@@madrouter yeah, she was, you person with no daughter.
Very clear and objective analysis. Thank you!
I’m shocked Dr Grande didn’t comment on all of the gaslighting and other narcissistic and self aggrandizing comments in Woody’s own voice in the recorded phone calls and from his book. And the observed thumb sucking? C’mon now Dr Grande!
It took courage for Dylan and others to make this documentary, it's their story, Woody could have made his own documentary
He chose to detail his side in his biography. He goes into great detail. I believe him.
It wasn't a documentary ... it was a piece of propoganda. Documentaries document all the facts, not just those that support one agenda.
@@rixx46 did he say in the biography that he lied about being in the closet?
To be honest, even if this documentary which I didn't watch is biased, I don't wish any more of this for the children in that family. Imagine Woody Allen making a movie about how his daughter (or stepdaughter - I got lost in the complicated structure of the family) being a liar. That would be absolutely disgusting whether he is innocent or guilty. Let's hope that will never happen.
@@thatsalt1560 WA is not interested in making a documentary on this. He has said that enough people have been hurt by this.
I can’t enjoy Woody Allen movies anymore. There’s enough “weirdness” in the actions and accusations of the adults that I just feel guilty for laughing now. Just from the marriage part. Once Dylan’s story comes out it becomes too difficult to even try to decipher the truth because it is entirely too intrusive to their privacy or psychological profile. So now, it’s avoid his movies and wait for some resolution.
Anyone else experience this?
Never watched his films and after I knew what he's done not gonna watch it
@@DT-bp2om he is not sexual, he is immoral.
@@DT-bp2om Hi DT. Because rich guys get away with stuff. Kraft got his prostitution case dropped, but the two massage girls got convicted. So the rich guys never pay (two presidents did sleazy things: clinton, trump). So you NEED a witch hunt to get one of those guys. But, then if a regular guy gets accused they still use the witch hunt tactics and that guy just gets obliterated.
@@DT-bp2om I’m not sure why prostitution is a crime. I just know two poor Asian women were convicted one rich white male millionaire got his charges dropped.
@@DT-bp2om okay. Try not to hurt anyone inadvertently.
The phone calls with Woody and Mia speaks volumes. Woody Allen being privy to the reports when Dylan was treated at a hospital in NY.
He had been a father figure to the children... SoonYi especially. She was 9yrs. old when he came into her life.
He's definitely got some weirdness going on with children.
Nonsense.
I wouldn’t trust woody Allen around young girls. Never
Notice they didn't include the screaming hysterical calls Mia made to his 80 something year old mother saying he should be killed and his eyes should be poked out. Woody Allen was never a father figure to Soon Yi Previn, her father Andre Previn was her father figure. The courts firmly established Woody and Soon Yi had nothing to do with each other until she turned 20.
@@rl12345 woody allen is the bio father of soon-yi’s brother. Do you honestly think there is no father element if him towards her?
@@rl12345 A man with money an enuff power can make things go his way just look up hollywood men who was paying peeps to find young girls and how long it too to get them locked up they just aint get away with ish overnight people do things for those elite hollywood peeps n do it well
Dear Dr. Grande this is a wonderful response. Well researched and you dared to go with the underdog because of your wisdom. Thank you. Subscribed
"Took on a role as a parent ..."
Did he? Because the documentary appeared to show Allen saying he doesn't care about the children beyond some facile enjoyment he obtained by having their company and he explicitly wanted no responsibilities involving them.
A complete narcissist. Who doesn’t care for their children?
Well when you ADOPT somebody, then that's the role you're taking on.
And yet he adopted three of them. Hmmm...
@@judyives1832 But, Soon Yi wasn't Woody's kid? He was never even married to Mia.
@@jfrsnjhnsn Woody Allen never adopted Soon Yi.
There are reasons why you can't go to the animal shelter and take every animal home no matter how much money you have.
Hmm. Back when this happened some of my friends supported Allen, and their method was ripping up Farrow. One of them said, "Adopting all those children shows somethings wrong with her" I didn't like them for that, and I don't like the tone of your remark either, Frank Benlin.
@@judithgannon5642 it's not adopting all the kids that shows somethings wrong, it's how she talked about adopting them, and the fact that 3 are now dead and 2 have spoken about how abusive she was towards all the non white adopted children. She has also been quoted as saying that she likes to adopt because she enjoys the feeling that they wouldn't have a life without her. Egomanic alert. She also 'returned' a few adopted children like puppies from a store. She's like the mother who recently became hated on youtube for 'rehoming' her autistic son adopted from China, Myka Stauffer. Same kind of woman.
I use to love his movies. Then I found out how Mia found out about the affair and what happened. Absolutely disgusting. I haven't watched his newer movies since. Just can't. I try and I just think about him cheating with a kid. I don't know if Dylan is truthful but it's not out the realm of disbelief.
Soon-Yi wasn't a kid, she was 21 years old. Have some respect for women.
@@Basauri48970 it's still basically incest 😂
@@carnuatus How was it, when they were not related. I remind you that it was Mia herself who insisted on them spending more time alone together when Soon-Yi was 20, as they barely knew each other. The amount of disinformation about the whole affair is incredible.
You're not missing out. I watched the ones he made for Amazon recently and they were laughably bad.
@@Basauri48970 That's still a disturbing age gap. 20 is still a kid basically.
Thank you for taking the time to do this video.
As someone who follows the Woody Allen case since 2018, I have only support for Woody Allen.
And here are my reasons why I stand with him.
1)Dylan Farrow switched the abuse locations multiple times over the years (tv room, staircase, etc.); which shows she doesn't make sense.
2)The idea of attacking Dylan during a custody battle doesn't make sense.
3)Mia Farrow claiming first thing first that Woody had assaulted Soon-Yi Previn.
4)Sordid history in the Farrow family of violence and abuse, such as her brother John Charles Villiers-Farrow who was arrested and jailed for abuse on two children. Whereas nothing in Woody's family.
5)Abuse accounts from Soon-Yi and Moses Farrow regarding Mia Farrow. Both of them denouncing her as a "Mommy Dearest".
6)The constant surveillance of Woody by everyone in the Farrow house, including Moses. Which would have made it impossible for Woody to hurt Dylan.
7)No sign of abuse after medical investigations.
8)Shifted story from the nanny.
9) Dylan Farrow's habit of reinventing her story and her problem of making difference between fantasy and reality. Alongside her mom's manipulative/invasive videotape recordings and personal statements.
10)Overcontrolling nature of Mia on her kids. Alongside her demeaning nature of Soon-Yi Previn by calling her vile names when Soon-Yi is very intelligent, mature, and educated.
11)The statement "I like to cheat on my stories." from Dylan.
12)The train set being claimed by Dylan as a small train set, but as revealed by the nanny, it was a massive model for a child to sit on and to travel around rails. A set used in the living room, Mia's room and in any big space.
Which would make its use in the attic small space impossible.
13)Woody had no problem adopting his kids. And his private life has always been pristine and exemplary. Whereas Mia's life has always been plagued with problems. Especially with her adopted children who either died or which she neglected and abandoned.
14)The authorities investigations were extensive and rigorous. And the authorities were very unpleasant toward Woody.
15)The manipulative and tabloid nature of Ronan Farrow
16)The culture of Mia Farrow of reprojecting on others what she did (Especially her history of hurting others).
17)Judge Wilkes's history of thoughtless decision.
18)Maureen Orth's presence in the battle (dubious behaviour, lies, bias on Mia, and attacks on others like Michael Jackson with BS and racist lies)
19)Dylan saying to the paediatrician for the first time that Woody only touched her shoulder.
20)Dylan's "Mommy wants me to lie." statement.
21)Dylan saying on Oct 30 that she recanted her testimony. With Mia saying to the social workers that nothing had happened to her. That Woody did not hurt her.
22)Dylan's flagrant inconsistencies both as a child and as an adult. Her habit of treating her "trauma" as a "spectacle show."
23)Dylan, Mia, and Ronan exploiting this situation like prima donnas. Always courting cameras and hogging the spotlight while Woody is silenced.
24)60 minutes Video
25)Woody never having any history of violence or abuse in his private, professional, and personal life.
26)Woody's claustrophobia making him incapable of entering that attic small space.
27)Conflicting testimonials of the babysitters regarding Woody and Dylan. One of them saying the actress pressured her to attack Woody Allen.
28)Soon-Yi's concerns and facts about Mia Farrow and her violence toward Soon-Yi.
29)Mia's sordid way of treating her adopted kids like toys and political/PR images, constantly renaming them.
30)Mia's game of reinventing her history and life to her image and narcissism.
31)The nannies denouncing Mia as a bully who ordered the adopted children to be domestics and servants and who assaulted them. While the biological ones were well treated.
32)Soon-Yi and Moses both confirming Mia was violent. Alongside the nannies.
I could go on, but the thing is that one only has to look at the history of the people involved to notice that the ONLY ones with serious problems and disturbing closets are the Farrows. And recently, the Farrows were spotted online attacking not only Michael Jackson, but also Johnny Depp. These people from the Farrow clan are opportunists who just exploit whatever hate trends is occuring in the medias for their PR and opportunism. But by attacking Johnny Depp and Michael Jackson, it motivated the Woody Allen fans to express support for Michael and Johnny. Furthermore, MJ fans were quite angry to see them and Michael Jackson being attacked in the documentary. As a result, the Michael Jackson and Woody Allen activists have stood together and shared facts on Woody Allen's case, allowing more people to know the facts about this case and Woody's life. Since then, many people have started doing their researches and documentaries over this case and the support for Woody Allen has grown stronger than ever.
Have you seen the documentary "By the Way Woody Allen is Innocent" ? It covers extensively the many facts about Woody Allen and his situation with Mia Farrow.
Again thank you for this video. Have a nice week. Sincerely, Simon
If Allen’s behavior with Dylan was inappropriate in 1987, why did Mia let him adopt her children in 1991?
THAT is an excellent question/analysis! 👍
@@erikparent8176 Agree! I also don´t see why so many people keep telling that his relation with Sun-Yi was creepy. It´s true he was much older than her, but she was NO child! And the duration of their marriage, more than 20 years to this very day, seems to reveal that they truly love each other. Mia Farrow, although i don't dislike her as an actress (but neither I consider her a great actress), has always come to me as a very spoiled, very moody brat - and I feel this since the time she was married to (or lived with, I don't know) Roman Polansky.
@@paulavitoria1798 Stop defending creepy men.
@@paulavitoria1798 She was a child the whole time she knew him, and he acted as her father. Just because they came out later on, doesn't mean that he didn't groom her for years while she was underage, AND again, he was acting as her father. It is creepy as frak.
She explains why in the documentary, a therapist told her his inappropriate behavior was inappropriate but not sexual, and the Allen said he recognized this and would do better. She felt convinced and thought Allen was her life partner.
I wish you still made educational content like you used to
Yes, I agree, this channel used to deal with basic information about psychotherapy and psychology but as it has become popular, it's become about Dr Grande's speculations about true crime and celebrity controversies (topics he doesn't necessarily know anything about more than anyone else). He's going for the clicks.
I like both
DUH? STUPID BROAD. WOODY DID NOTHING WRONG, AND IS INNOCNET. MIA LIED AND SHE SHOULD BE IN JAIL.
My sister suffered from depression and was advised to go for counselling. Having attended for some months, she developed a vivid recollection of being sexually abused by a near relative. Dates and locations were recorded and when we realised that the relative was dead before those dates her recollection changed. First, she had recollected it happening when she was fourteen but then she said that she was only six but later, she vividly recalled that it was a neighbour not our relative, when she was fourteen. That neighbour is dead and can't defend himself. She remains absolutely convinced that she had been assaulted.
Curiously, a large number of the counsellor's female clients recall being sexually assaulted as children but only after several months of counselling. Several men have been arrested as a result. To the best of my knowledge, no one has been tried on these charges. I can only assume that the evidence is too weak or has been shown to be false.
We can become convinced of events that never happened and have no recollection of events that did. The mind is a pliable thing and if the wrong person is in a position to do the plying, the outcome can be disastrous.
It's like when a person you know well says something like, "I've seen aliens" and they refuse to ever go back on that statement. I have come to realize that they really do believe in what they saw or thought they saw and no amount of convincing or evidence rebutting it will change their mind. This has also been documented in eye witness court testimony in which the witness was proven wrong even though they really believed it was the way they remembered it.
Probably the most rational analysis out there of this complicated, tawdry matter.
I think this is the first time I've disagreed with Dr. Grande and...that's okay. A pleasure to listen to always.
I’m sorry, but really? You are ok knowing that there is a psychologist who doesn’t see anything wrong with Allen’s behavior?
Second time for me lol.
@@fghdrdthtgfghjhdf2540 He didn’t say that. He said he doesn’t think the sexual assault in the attic happened.
@@fghdrdthtgfghjhdf2540 I don't think that's accurate. Or fair.
Great way of putting it. Judging by some of the comments it appears that some go a bit unhinged over this whole thing.
If Mia thought Woody had issues, why wouldn't she do everything to protect her daughter? Why not make sure he was watched every second he was there? I have trouble believing that she had all these issues with Woody before it happened, yet did absolutely nothing to stop what she alleges happen.
Sadly, it's an all too common pattern. I don't know in this case (someone also said she did reach out, before?), but often mothers who drift towards abusers have also been abused and no healthy sense of or defenses for what is right as well as no proper knowledge of how to take action, as that ability/impulse often has been blocked by trauma in childhood when action might have meant death. They might not even be sure and also feel as overwhelmed and helpless by the implications inwardly as during childhood trauma, as it's too horrible to be true. So a lot of mother's consciously or subconsciously choose to ignore, suppress or downplay any suspicions and/or insufficiently (or not at all) protect their child. Some mothers might also feel emotionally or financially dependent on the man and/or 'simply' choose the man over the child 😢. I agree the timing of Mia Farrow's accusations is suspicious and smells of revenge, but I also agree that Woody Allen is a shifty creep, whatever he may or may not have done to Dylan, specifically, and it seems very dangerous to me if even sensible professionals like Dr. Grande brush over his weird behaviours as though they mean nothing. Because that is how abusers stay undisturbed and go undetected for all too long a time. It may not stand up to the law (,yet) (sadly, the minority of true child abuse cases does). But in my opinion, in real life, one has to try to be aware of the subtle (or not so subtle) signs of abuse and take them seriously, otherwise one is not so much different from the mothers who got an inkling (or even red flags) and chose to ignore or downplay them. And it is hard, I agree, one often does not know what to think or do. One does not want to do an injustice to anyone. Non-action, however, can also be a statement and and action, one that is enabling offenders. Very difficult!
Clearly you have never been a victim of these shits. If only it were that easy.
@@jadepaulsen8456 Clearly you don't know me and what I've suffered. I still have difficulty saying it aloud. But I still don't believe Dylan. I infer you've gone through something. I'm sorry and hope you find peace.
@@ember1794 Some good points. But I argue your points with these 3: 1) pedophile rarely violate only once 2) they rarely vary the age group as dramatically as he's accused (Dylan 7, all others late teens) 3) with as media coverage as Woody has gotten, they've been investigated and allowed to adopt 2 girls.
Her being a failing mom doesnt automatically clear him tho. Dylan never changed her story and there is enough to show that the guy is a creep and has a thing for very young girls
You said in the end that it was a one time thing for Allen, but his relationship with Soon Yi and the stories about his acting strange arounc Dyland do make it seem as if was not entirely out of the blue.
Plus, he adopted two girls with Soon Yi. Who knows what he did with them. Not to mention that in many Allen films the story revolved around a mature man's inapporiate relationship with a teenager.
Except Woody Allen based "Manhattan" on his real life relationship with a 16 yo. He was 41.
Their adopted son- Moses Farrow-- is a therapist in CT, focused on adoption issue. He also has a UA-cam channel. It would be interesting to see an interview between the two of you-- and even more for me since I have such respect for both of you.
36 here. I grew up in a very liberal minded home. I was allowed to watch and listen to a lot of stuff. I was NOT allowed to watch any Woody Allen movies. My mother said he was a sick and horrible man and that we wouldn’t support his disgusting habits.
Your mother is a woman with honour
Did she meet him personally, or just going by the movies? I could see either LOL
Nothing in Woody's movies is sick and the allegations are unproven. You did not grow up in a liberal minded home, you grew up in an opinionated home.
@@PhoenicianPrincess88 I don’t think she met him personally but she did meet different musicians from back in the day and she said some were cool and others were creeps.
@@jrbr549 you seem to be quite opinionated considering your bold statement from a single sentence I’ve written. Interesting.
Edit: I’m sorry, a few sentences. Wouldn’t want you trying to argue trivial details like that now.
One thing I noticed was that there was mention of”bitter “ in the context with Mia Farrows name. The dispute was bitter, on both sides.
bitter that he ended up marring son yi. very bitter from her side, so much so she sent allen a valentines card with knives in it.
So you think Dylan is still making false allegations now as an adult?
She may not even be aware that it is false. Mia Farrow has given positive reinforcement for Dylan’s entire life for talking about this abuse story. I think Allen is creepy AF, but I don’t think he did what he is accused of here.
@@dec23 they're both lies. He never adopted her and she wasn't in her teens. You're 0-2.
I don’t. This has irritated me. And this speak of how it’s Dylan’s memory rather than the truth!
@@miajackson3559 I also find it disturbing that people are willing to believe a man who became involved with and then married his partner's child, over a credible adult woman's account of what happened to her when she was 7 years old. Those who are trying to discredit what Dylan's awareness was as a child aren't considering that she is an adult now, remembering the same experience. She knows whether she was violated or not. ( And to those who want to defend his marriage, because she was of age and not his legal daughter, keep in mind that Soon Yi was his girlfriend's 10 year old child when they met ).
@@traceyg2703 Yes!
What seems to be washed over a lot is the fact that Allen was really weird and Dylan spoke up right away and very young. It’s the one incident that is focused on but he was seen being inappropriate her whole childhood.
NO WHAT'S WASHED OVER IS ALL YOU MENOPAUSAL wo-MEN who are sexually jealous. WOODY IS INNOCENT AND DID NOTHING WRONG
As much as I liked Allen’s work, after seeing him on a couple of talk shows from the seventies my vibe was creepy!
Very much creepy IMO.
There was forensic police evidence compiled by CT state PD. Judge ultimately denied him custody.
And two forensics studies disregarded Dylan’s testimony.-
It's court custom to award custody to the mother. It takes a powerful persuasion to take children from the mother. Unless CFS is involved. They can take anyone's kids for any reason.
I think you make a really fair argument. When I read about these allegations years ago, I had a visceral reaction of disgust and felt like I knew it in my gut to be true (I mean look at the guy and his movies), but your point about people wanting to raise the bar of justice to stop this behavior really struck a chord with me. I totally get that and looking at the evidence or lack thereof as laid out in your video I can say I pretty much agree with where you landed on this. Maybe he behaved immorally in some other ways towards Dylan or like romancing/grooming a teen girl but that doesn’t mean he’s guilty of this specific allegation and criminal conduct as it pertains to Dylan. I mean there are a lot of creeps in Hollywood who relish the opportunity to be around young aspiring actors/models/singers etc and manipulate them into marrying once they come of age. I really respect Ronan Farrow for his journalistic work exposing Weinstein. If Dylan was coached, that’s pretty despicable of Mia Farrow, but maybe both Mia and Woody have stretched the truth in this situation in order to make themselves look innocent or completely in the right.
Half right. Weinstein was FRAMED as well. And he will be exonerated just as Bill Cosby was also and rightfully exonerated.
New York Times: A state's attorney in Connecticut said yesterday that he had "probable cause" to prosecute Woody Allen on charges that he sexually molested his adopted daughter, but had decided to spare her the trauma of a court appearance. The state's attorney in Litchfield, Frank Maco, said he had drawn up an arrest warrant for Mr. Allen, but then decided not to pursue the case. ~ PUBLISH DATE - September 25, 1993. - It is true that he was never tried.
This makes me so mad because when a child is molested, it's the child's word against the abuser. There often isn't any physical evidence that someone touched you. So many victims never get justice because of this. I think he did it. He clearly has a pattern of crossing boundaries. Dr Grande's been watching too much Jordan Peterson and it shows.
lol--- whatever does Jordan Peterson have to do with this case
You're attacking the credibility of both Jordan Peterson and Dr. Grande? You must have one hell of a résumé. Would you care to share part of it?
The kind of s[redacted]l abuse that a man commits on a female child with his head in her lap (and supposedly between her thighs), isn't likely to leave traces that a pediatrician or any other doctor would be able to later find. It all remains a "he said, she said" kind of a case. There wasn't any material evidence found because the perpetrator was too smart to leave any, but there still could've been a lot of things actually happening. But we'll never know the truth in such cases for as long as babies won't start to get born with in-built body cams.
One thing I am sure of, is that no matter how many witnesses and testimonies would be gathered in this case and mo matter how consistent it would be, Woody Allen is too famous and influential to ever be charged and sentenced for anything. And all sort of Hollywood and international actors will keep acting like there was absolutely anything suspicious about his past, and will go to all lengths to get a part in his movies to forward their careers and get awards.
If the girls' testimonies are truthful, I don't believe it was either his first or last time he involved in such behaviors. He was just finding his victims elsewhere and covered his traces better than Weinstein.
Had to stop, because I was triggered. Not being believed is a big part of the trauma. (Note: I didn't get far enough to figure out which way you lean.)
Best not to continue.
@@WhitLin31 Thank you
I started breathing rapidly when I heard something like "the psychology of why children lie". Then I turned it off. Maybe it should have a trigger warning.
@@kellibabb6141 I mean it's good to listen to the evidence. The kid was believed and an investigation began. Can't just blindly believe everyone that's how lives are ruined. You should believe that there are allegations and then investigate them
Facts don’t care about feelings, unfortunately.
Thank you for this, Dr. Grande.