I've rarely driven with shoes/boots on (took my test minus shoes too) and always put my handbag and shoes on the back seat. Never left the baby in the car but did leave it home alone for 5mins. Sleep deprived, my youngest was about 5 days old when I went to go shopping. Git ready, off I set and a feeling of unease was overwhelming me. Got 30seconds down the road and realised that I'd got the baby ready and as he was asleep, I put him in his cot so I could get ready. I'll never forget that day, the panic, the fear and the guilt even 31yrs on!
I agree. My son goes to family daycare, so I'll be asked if he's not going in or late. But I still get paranoid when hubby drops him off and I'll text her asking how my son is coz I get anxious if hubby hasn't told me about drop off (I always get him to text me, just in case- because of these stories) 💕
Great analysis. The father's behavior toward women was an all-consuming addiction. Everything else in his life, his wife, his family, and his child were subordinate to it. He continued to pursue women knowing that in at least one case his behavior was a serious criminal offense, yet he was willing to live with the fear of criminal prosecution to pursue it. His mind and energy were so focused on gratifying himself there was nothing left for the care of his child. He didn't intend to harm his son that day, but his frame of mind excluded any thought for his care or even his presence. Dr. Grande's speculation that this was, in fact, a case of negligent homicide is highly probable.
Have a buddy who is exactly like this. He cheated on his ex-wife and used me as an excuse for his escapades (saying we were camping overnight). When we would go on hikes, his phone is always in his hand as he is always working on his next woman. You cannot have conversations with him because he is so engrossed in that world.
When a kid is that young, his life is depending on the guardians. Negligence to this extent is murder in this case, I think justice is served. That poor poor baby🙏🙏
@@nennnennn I do think that negligent homicide is totally fair as a charge, and I know many think that it should be punished by life in prison, but in this case it makes me really concerned for the function of our legal system. This guy was declared guilty for first degree murder, while others get charged with negligent homicide. It seems like everyone wanted to believe he committed first degree murder because he was a shitty husband and was cheating with multiple women. (This isn’t a defense of the guy, just that the police and court in this situation seemed biased towards murder because of his affairs.) RIP Cooper.
It’s not surprising that someone juggling 6 women and a wife plus an underage girl would be absent minded. His head definitely wasn’t in the game. I think he forgot. He didn’t know but he should have known. It was negligent homicide.
I'm less than 3 minutes in and I feel physically nauseous and an overwhelming sense of dread thinking about what that child must have been experiencing trapped in the car. That poor, poor child.
It easily interprets the other way as well; in his mind Cooper of course was in the daycare, the "black out" confirming itself. "When fixed, stay fixed". Finally a big thanks to Dr Grande: your equilibrium almost has a European touch 😎
And the fact that when his wife went to pick the boy up, her first reaction was "oh he must have left Cooper in the car". That's pretty weird. Also, parking in the shade gives the appearance that he didn't forget his kid intentionally.
Not necessarily I watched a Oprah clip from back in the day about a mother of 2 girls who was also a principal at a school & it was the 1st day of school it wasn't usual for her to take the child but she worked the whole day & even spoke to her employees about her children and showed pictures of her kids to them & she cannot understand why she just never realized. She didn't realize until she went in the car to leave around 4pm that day. You really just never know until it happens to you and hopefully it doesn't.
You can't judge people's reactions to the death of a loved one. I lost my son, my only child and I was composed at the funeral, but my nights are disturbed with the horrific sight of him in the casket.
I had a friend who left her son in the car. She drove all the way to work before SHE REALIZED he was in the car. She took him to daycare. It scared the crap out of her. Never happened again.
It just goes to show that this kind of thing does happen. Stress, sleep deprivation, and the fact that some people are just more prone to forgetfulness than others. Particularly people with higher energy levels who tend to micromanage things. Both my husband and I suffer from this and we are constantly forgetting dates, misplacing things etc... I have to sympathize with these people to some extent because I could see myself making a mistake like this. I feel like people who don’t understand are too quick to judge. People like to see things in black-and-white because it is draining to be emotionally conflicted about things. Genuinely good people can make honest mistakes that make them look like monsters. I’m not saying that there shouldn’t be consequences for those mistakes but it doesn’t make them bad people, either.
@@transmeeshax6872 "high energy people who micromanage things and are forgetfull" is a nice way to reframe (sub? -) clinical ADHD. Have to remember that one. (edit: fixed typos. yes, typical me...)
@@chelseamunroe Sickly sweet rotted meat, imo. Really heavy and cloying, and once you smell it, some weird little lizard brain part of you knows what it is.
One of the texts he sent to a mistress said he was tired of being married and being a father that the novelty had worn off. Him saying that makes me feel he had done this on purpose because he wanted his freedom.
@@hjtres7261 hey sorry, didnt mean to put you off. That was my bad. I thought you were saying that you have felt like the novelty has worn off on marriage and parenting like OPs post. It is sad when people become unhappy with their lives, thats why i said i feel bad. I definitely wasn’t trying to insinuate that you have neglected your children , left them in hot cars, or that you would be cheating w/ underage teens.
This case haunted me. I kept imagining what Cooper experienced. The lack of response when the keys were chucked into the car at lunchtime to the smell was pivotal to me.
The Father is PETer pumpKIN EATer who is hung upside down on his own bROCKen cross as HE is a CAD MAN who is the 2 fACEs of Santa/Satan 'clause' Daddy The KING of HIS CASTle, MANsion or hoUSE of abUSE to women and children in HIS hoUSE. She follows HIS lead.
Good. Little kids and animals are at the mercy of humans. It sucks to be stuck with some dumb ass mofo that can't take care of themselves or is sadistic and enjoys making the kid or animal suffer.
I'm still unsure what to believe because when my sister died extremely suddenly and the police knocked on my door and told me.. I barely reacted at all. I'm sure they thought it was strange. I can't even explain it. And I loved her with all my heart and was the closest person in my life. So I do agree there is no normal way to act given life changing news unexpectedly. Edit: I just wanted to add a thank you to everyone for the positive feedback. I guess I should of also said I do lean towards him being guilty because as people have pointed out I didn't accidently kill my sister. I imagine my reaction would be different if that was the case.
Agree. After watching my father die of cancer I went out with the family to get tacos and sat laughing in the sunshine. I must have looked heartless or crazy, but the grief and depression hit me later. I loved him so deeply, but grief is strange.
When my dad died, I chose to do my morning shift at work because I wanted to keep busy. Aside from a slight internal numbness, it was just an average day at work. Then I went to my mum’s and we watched whatever crappy TV was on in the early afternoon, because we weren’t ready to properly talk about it. Then I had a couple of friends over and we ordered in some food and had, honestly, a really great night. I remember laughing A LOT! In fact, I don’t think I properly cried until his funeral 2 weeks later - I remember going to my best friend in tears and happily saying “I’m finally crying!”. Grief is fuckin’ wild.
Absolutely. When my grandfather died, I remember faking tears because I just didn't know how to react, and felt like if I didn't act sad I would look like a psychopath. I wasn't able to actually cry and grieve for real until at least a few months later. Humans are weird and everyone reacts to upsetting news differently, it's in no way fair to judge someone off that, alone.
We all handle things differently. I get irritated when I see people complaining that others aren’t acting normal after a death. As if any of us know what normal is?
When my daughter was 2 years old I went through a phase of leaving my purse everywhere. My daughter was clutched in one arm and must have replaced in my mind and on my arm, my purse.Thank goodness I never forgot her, but I drove myself nuts with forgetting my purse.
@@dreyddog19 eh people say that but if you're exhausted cause baby kept you up all not or whatever, tons of stuff going on, it's easier than you'd think. When my son was younger i forgot him in the car for 4 or 5 minutes once and freaked out super hard on myself. Took him to the pediatrician and everything who said he was fine and that it's actually more common than you think
When I was a baby my mum once left me outside the shops in my pram. She only realised when my grandmother who lived with us then was like, "where's the baby Florence?". It was normal back then (1960s) to leave a baby in a pram outside a shop when you went inside (fear of abduction was negligible). She just came out of the shop and walked home. My mum was a loving mother who cared passionately for us kids, never negligent, abusive or unloving in any way. Sometimes people just glitch.
This happened to me, it was one of my first outings with my 2months old and i left her in a bakery, asleep in her pram, after buying bread. The owner called me shouting and i kinda "woke up". I had forgotten that I had the baby with me!
@@frappalina My Mom, who was a fantastic, loving and caring Mom, once left me at the library. I was quietly reading a little book, she was browsing and just left and drove away. She said she kept thinking she forgot something... And finally realized it was me!!!😅 She quickly came back and I was still in the same spot with my little book. Cheers!
I put my newborn through parcel pickup at the grocery store. She was less than two weeks old. I realized about 10 seconds later and ran back to retrieve her. This “forgotten baby” thing does happen! But hours and hours pass?? No, something is wrong about that. You have to be in some really shady crap that’s occupying your mind to forget for so long. He wasn’t thinking about his baby at all.
So true! Parenting can be exhausting, and getting distracted does happen. I've always felt murder was the wrong charge in this case. Involuntary manslaughter makes more sense.
When I got my first baby, sometimes I forgetting her on the backseat. I felt ashamed of myself. How come so important like that, I can’t remember if I have it. Sometimes your brain can play tricks on you
Haha. I was thinking the same thing. He looks like Pillsbury Dough Boy. But let's get real, you all know those "6 girlfriends" were probably superficial, stupid, narcissistic, lying online "relationships."
@@katrina5265 haha, the positive thinking movement. These so-called relationships of Ross's were probably online, nothing real, and nothing more than weird nakedness and attention seeking.
I'm the sort of person who is always checking I have my keys, wallet and phone on me at all times. If I had a kid I'm pretty sure I'd include it in my mental list.
@@linusfotograf yes....yes you are...very easy to judge other people if you don't even have children of your own. You know for 100% that you would Never forget your child in a car?
I do this same thing with my five year old, one time I was very tired and driving somewhere. I realized she wasn't in her car seat and started panicking/crying about how I could have just left her. I called my husband and of course he had her, being sleep deprived does funny things to you.
Fatal Distraction is a great article on people who truly forget their children in hot cars. The interview with the neurologist about the effects of sleep deprivation on the human brain was fascinating and scary.
And the fact that he was constantly sexting 8 women throughout the day i feel works in the favour of the forgetful baby syndrome theory since it can be used to argue how preoccupied he was. Sexting from morning and throughout office, managing multiple secretive conversations with work.. his mind was obsessed with his addiction and highly preoccupied thus making the forgetfulness more likely than an average parent. Not saying that he is innocent or guilty, but the 8 women fact imo makes an argument for his defence as well. He had quite a bad lawyer.
Moreover, it is mostly the men who find one seemingly potential partner who are looking to get out of marriages in such ways. Men engaging in multiple meaningless sexual counters with the knowledge of their wife are mostly looking to keep their family life as well as have fun on the side ie best of both worlds. They dont want to lose either of them. Again not arguing in favour but stating what arguements could have been made. His lawyer did a bad job of just objecting to all mentions of his side-life and trying to brush them under the rug as "irrelevant" which was a pathetic strategy given how evident they were. He should have probably tried to embrace them and make them work in his favor. But then im no lawyer.
Regarding forgotten baby syndrome... When I was a young mother living in military housing, our neighbours had just had a baby recently. I was outside with my own child and watched them both walk into the house hand in hand with no baby. I didn't think much of it until a few moments later the two of them came rushing out their front door actually yelping out loud and dashing to their car to retrieve the baby in its car seat. They were solidly shocked and mortified at their indiscretion.
Ive come across a car where a baby was locked in the back. It was on an extremely hot day, in fact we were at a water park. The baby was beat red and foaming at the mouth. My friend found a rock and smashed thr window. Thr baby was so hot like a pot roast straight out of the oven. By then cops came on the scene bcuz a bystander called them. The mother was non chalantly walking back from a convenience store carrying a "big freeze" (frozen drink) for herself. Unreal!!!
@@doeeyes2 she mustve been high or intentionally wanted to be free of the baby. I hope they tested her. And followed up to see if she has a pattern of neglect and abuse.
Knowing Dr. Grande has a warrior dialogue between his plants going on in his head while he strolls the aisles makes me feel better about my own vivid imaginings.
Wendy Swain I know what you mean. I have a sense of humor like his and sometimes people don't know I'm joking. It's like they want me to go, "ha ha ha," but I just can't do that.
Dude I absolutely can not understand this. Extremely overweight AND significantly unattractive, with some kind of severe scarring or some crap on his face. This guy must have been pursuing women with more effort than his full time job, and they had to be very unattractive , it doesn’t make sense any other way.
It never ceases to amaze me how calming your voice is. I have started falling asleep on numerous occasions. You are not boring, just have a calming and tranquil effect upon me. Thank you for this.
I’m torn between him being guilty and having his head so far up his A$$ that he couldn’t think of anything else. Poor sweet Cooper. May that innocent baby be resting in peace.
I don't think he killled him on purpose mistakes and accidents can happen. It's his only son/child it seems. I know people can make mistakes. Yes a parent that dosn't want a child could do that but mistakes happen and I don't think he mean't to or did it on purpose. I have been forgotten before at school because my mom was so busy working single mom and she thought she had already picked me up and dropped me off at home it was a mistake. I even forgotten so many things too and important things. It can happen. Even when my brother was suppose to drive me to school he would forget sometimes and pass my school. I know some people say how can that a parent forget a child or thought they had already dropped them off/pick them up but it can happen
@@arichalevas2298 Agree. I feel so sorry for him about this. He has to live with this the rest of his life. It’s just sad. My mother forgot me once and I don’t blame her.
It's interesting how different parents minds work, consciously and subconsciously. I was 23 when I had my son and was a single parent. I took my son everywhere, even to the toilet with me. I relaxed as the years went on but I remember being extremely alert to where he was at all times
I agree. I hardly slept for the first two years of my son's life. I was chronically exhausted, but there's no way I would have ever forgotten he was with me.
I agree on different ways people react to stress. For example,when someone tell me bad or sad news I often have to stop myself from laughing or smiling even though I don't find it funny at all.
As a former Daycare worker, I’m wondering why someone from the Daycare facility didn’t call one or both of Cooper’s parents when he didn’t arrive that day… at the Daycare I worked at it was protocol to call a child’s parents if they didn’t arrive at their normal drop-off time without any previous notice of an absence or a phone call from the parents that morning.
I would go so far as to say the Daycare was negligent, not legally perhaps, but certainly ethically. Schools and daycares do and must plan for what happens when a child doesn't show up as expected. For all they know someone could have snatched the child and be crossing borders by the afternoon, when the parents come to pick-up.
@@m2heavyindustries378 exactly. Even when I was in high school, if I was absent and my parents forgot to call the school to notify them, the school would send an automated message to my parents about my absence that morning. I worked at a daycare in the infant room and the director would call parents as soon as possible if a baby didn’t show up when they normally would. This is something every daycare should be doing, I just wonder why a call wasn’t made.. regardless though, it’s the father’s fault ultimately.
Back In the 90s when my son went to daycare you didn’t have to call if they missed a random day. If they were sick for more than a day that was different. But it’s not like missing a day of school when older. It is daycare. I don’t think the daycare missed anything
Dr. Grande is taunting us with the idea that the plants speak and can realize their personal motivations, when it's so clear that the plants are helpless to stop him from using them to send messages to the alien lizard people.
Chris Watts was a great father though. Obviously only until he wasn't, but everyone, including family friends and folks from both sides of the family never wavered on their assertions about his parenting.
@@_lil_lil I wasn’t only talking about his weight. Lol. My obese comment was about myself not him.) I was also talking about that Gerber baby face. He looks like a baby in a grown up sized body. I mean, when you are looking for a mate looks don’t matter at all. I’ve been married 20 years and neither myself nor my husband are good looking. That doesn’t matter. But if you are looking for a hookup like this guy was (and you aren’t the hookers he was also seeing) looks usually play a big part in it. Bc it’s about sex not an emotional connection. Ya know?
Forgotten Baby Syndrome is one of the most awful things I can imagine happening to me. The details in stories about this happening just make me feel sick.
But I doubt you’d take your child in the car for the day and just forget for the whole day. One trip, maybe as I’ve seen it happen. But an entire day with multiple stops just seems too far fetched.
As impossible as I want to believe leaving one’s child in the car would be….if dropping off the child was completely out of the normal routine for the parent coupled with a ridiculously distracting, all-consuming “hobby,” it may have just happened. Also, if the child had fallen asleep on the drive to the destination, there would have been no familiar noises of a child in the backseat to remind him. What an absolutely tragic case. Thank you Dr. Grande!
When you're editing, you should put a lowpass filter on your audio track and play with it until the hiss is gone. Pretty quick to add once you have a template, and makes all the difference.
I wouldn't be so sure... In the day of my sons baptism i had to make both of us ready, do the weekend shopping, meet the priest, and walk the dog. All of this before 10 am. I was so busy that i forgot the dog at the store 😑
@@rhyshamilton7406 😂😂😂 I'm an Atheist, but OK 😂 Here in Austria we let our kids just get baptised because they get a bunch of presents. But I really appreciate your highly informed input. You made me a better person. Thank you
I saw this case when it happened. The way he “cried” about his son being dead was absolutely pathetic. He put on a show and a very bad one at that. Then he had the audacity to complain to the police the car was too hot. What?! He deserves to go out the same way poor little Cooper did.
@@trueCrimeGuruYes Ross is a piece of shit who knowingly let his son die in a hot car. The “doctor” is wrong and is absolutely bias in this situation. Have your even watched the video? Poor acting at its best. This garbage human wanted a life without a child and killed him off.
@@AltClev37 This guy is biased towards men. I don't believe ms Bobbit severed her husbands penis because he failed to give her an orgasim either. what bs
The thing I keep coming back to is the text message he sent his wife that day... asking when she's picking up Cooper from daycare. I'd like to know if this is something Ross texted his wife about daily, or if it was out of the ordinary for him to ask her this. If he's never texted or called her any other day to ask when she's picking up their son, it would seem odd to me that he did so on that day. Almost as if he wanted to seem like he thought he had dropped Cooper off that morning. 🤔
I also think it's super weird that Dr. Grande just glossed over the fact that his wife was both SHOWN the video about animals in hot cars and that his wife also SAID to the daycare that if her son was never dropped off that her husband must have left him in the car. So eery I don't think she was in on it but I think she has a feeling it was premeditated and just can't admit it to herself. Never disagreed with Dr Grande on a case more than this one to be honest.
When I worked at Walmart , several times people forgot their babies in the store and went home, once they didn’t come back until45 minutes after the store closed. The management wouldn’t even let us call the police to do a check to make sure these people were safe to take care of their kids.
Wow this was an awful case, I tip my hat to you for being able to remain sane whilst doing your research. There are no winners in this one, really sad 😔!
I have a huge fern named Sideshow Bob!!! I have others with names. I love that you name your plants! I like that you give the background story how their names came about!! I love your channel!! Your subtle sense of humor makes me truly laugh out loud at times 😂😂😂 We’ll have to get our plants together!
Dr. Grande, can you please do a analysis of Dr. Grande? I am not asking you to diagnose yourself, only speculate as to what is really going on with Dr. Grande.
This is about an event that happened a number of years ago in Macon, GA. A professional man, working downtown, left a young child (son or daughter) in his parked car when he went to his office. That am he had forgotten to take his child to daycare. Fortunately, this child was found around 30 minutes later and rescued. Understandably, this man was devastated knowing how close he had come to killing his own child.
To be fair, you can have healthy relationships with divorced parents, affairs are certainly not amazing but going from affairs to automatically being a bad parent, that's jumping the gun alright.
I remember going to antenatal classes and the midwife telling me that a new mum got out of a taxi, leaving the baby in the car (luckily the taxi driver noticed). She put it down to the new mum being so used to being pregnant and having the baby with her all the time, not yet used to thinking of the baby as a separate entity to herself.
this is definitely an experience that occurs bc I have felt this with every single one of my babies. it was a very strange thing to adjust to them being outside of my body.
@@stephaniehowe0973 You'd be surprised how that, coupled in with COUNTLESS sleepless nights, can turn 22 months into what's perceived as closer to 22 days..... I only wish I was kidding. For all our efforts, the human brain and the human body is _not_ a machine. We make countless errors every day, even with perfect nutrition and perfect sleeping habits. When you take those perfect self care habits away.... The human brain starts to behave more like a tapioca pudding, and less like a flawless machine than it already does. Though I don't think that's what happened in the case Dr Grande is discussing. I'm just saying for the records sake.
I would highly recommend watching the interrogation footage. I went into it thinking that it was probably an accident and people show grief in a variety of ways. Nope, it was so obviously fake and bad acting. It was ridiculous.
I love Dr. Grandes plant stories. I feel like he could be a play write that could write scenes but instead of live actors its just potted plants tastefully arranged on a stage and then he explains whats going on in the plants lives.
Dr. Grande, sometimes I listen to you to fall asleep bc your voice is so soothing. You should make recordings of you talking for people w insomnia 😆❣️🤟
I can kinda see why she would go straight to "he left the baby in the hot car"? I mean, to me I think she did that because 1- if he was never dropped off, he probably never left the car and 2- I do understand the immediate thought of "well he'd never intentionally kill cooper" and "ross was busy and had to go to work", so I can see how two and two were put together and led to Leana thinking, "Ross left cooper in the car"
He had a sex addiction it sounds like, & had a lot going on. Maybe he'd left the baby before, & it wasn't for very long, or result in injury or death. That & the fact the child didn't make it to daycare, could be a reason for her to jump to that assumption....
I remember when this story first broke. I was so upset thinking what that poor little boy went thru. I thought that guy was a monster. Thanks for putting it in another perspective.
I have a difficult time relating to parents that "forget" about their children. I was 13 years old when my baby was born; I never forgot him anywhere (although I did lose him once at a department store 😭). When I started driving, I avoided taking my baby with me to fill up on gas because I didn't want to leave him in the car, not even for one second. There were some times when I had to take him with me and although it was hassle to have to unbuckle and rebuckle him while I pumped gas, I nevertheless did so. I've locked my keys in my car far too many times to count. And my scientific calculator exploded when I forgot it inside my car on a hot day, but I have never, ever forgotten my child. I honestly can't comprehend about this forgotten baby syndrome and I hope I never experience it. On a lighter note, Hektor the plant is absolutely darling in his teeny tiny pot🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰.
You sound like such a loving, caring, involved mother. Especially at your age of 13 years old. I'm currently 32 years old with my precious 2 year old daughter. I, too, cannot understand or even fathom "forgotten baby syndrome". I'm aware of the sleep deprivation aspect of parenthood, and motherhood as my daughter was not the best sleeper until recently (sort of). Adrianna Marie would only sleep on my chest the first 6 months of her life, then my fiance and I would bed share until 18 months and all of a sudden, Adrianna decided that she was ready to sleep in her crib, in her own room. I'm a SAHM and a FTM, so the majority of Adrianna Marie's caretaking is all on me, which I actually love because my daughter has given purpose to my life. BUT, reading your story and trying to imagine doing everything at 13 years old, honestly I don't think I was mature enough to put my own selfishness & immaturity (at that age; just on a personal note relating to my life) aside to be a mother. I think that I wouldn't be the type of mother I currently am, or close to it. So from one mother to another, your comment inspired me and I wanted to commend you on all you've done for your child and wish you and your family the best. I thoroughly enjoy hearing/reading about young mothers who actually take on motherhood and take it seriously. All too often do we hear stories related to the "Teen Mom" saga or the worse. Good for you! Your doing amazing! I still don't understand how a parent can forget that their child is in the car, and although I'm not condemning anyone who may have done it, if someone is that tired they shouldn't be behind the wheel with their young child in the car to begin with IMHO.
I'd put my million dollars on 'guilty'. I've read elsewhere that the child seat was situated literally inches from Harris's face. How could he have missed it while he was parking? Did he not look in the rear-view mirror? I've also read that the journey between the restaurant and his place of work would have taken only 3 or 4 minutes. That's a very short time to place your child in the car and forget about him.
FRom a similarly inhumane childhood experience at night in early December, the smell after three hours was putrid and overwhelming despite the frost on the windows. I can't fathom how he was even able to pretend when he put the lightbulbs in. I would think the smell would hit him so hard it would snap him out of his bout of selfish psychosis at least long enough to register the reaction on the security footage.
In this age, it seems easy for cars and carseats to be built with compatible electronics. The carseat should plug into the car like a trailer is connected for lighting. When the carseat's harness is buckled (ie baby in the carseat) an alarm should activate when the driver door is open. The alarm could be a chime, flashing cabin lights, etc. It seems so easy.
Hell na he did it. Way too many things fell into place perfectly. He didn't drive his own car at lunch then he had an alibi by texting his wife "when are YOU getting our son" helllll na
@@lesliecas2695 If the smell really was overpowering and the whole thing was planned, why wouldn't he just initiate the 911 call when he got to his car after work? Him driving half way home and then calling 911 isn't really a critical part of the plan, so I don't see why he'd do it at all. If everything was planned, you'd think that when he realized the smell was overpowering, he'd just go "oh crap this isn't going to work" and just call 911 right away.
When my son was a baby, on the rare occasions he wasn’t with me I would park the car and automatically go and start to take him out of his car seat on autopilot and remember I didn’t have him. It always freaked me out that I could do the opposite. If I forgot I didn’t have him, could forget I had him? I don’t think that is what happened here but I was so paranoid and I do think there are genuine cases where parents have forgotten kids.
Hell I do the same with my niece, and I only drive with her a few times a month. It can be 11 at night and I know she’s at home with her mom and I’ll still check the back seat. I know this does happen accidentally, but I do wonder how often people forget their kids during winter time?
Carl lived near the church but often found a reason not to attend because he found some interesting plant on the way there. His dog then went on his own to the church , stayed under Carl’s seat at the front bench but never stay for the hole sermon. When the priest complain to Carl not attending he replied that his sermons was so long and boring not even his dog could stand them. 😂. It was in Danmark church near Uppsala in Sweden, his home is a museum and have a nice garden with many plants he gave scientific names. 😉
he parked in the shade most likely because he wasnted to park in the back,so Cooper couldnt be seen or heard...same reason he was late for work, because if he was on time others in the parking lot would have been getting there around same time and may have seen/heard Cooper ! I can't believe these points wasnt raised!
I absolutely can’t imagine anyone forgetting their child. I worked as a teacher and had a TON of stress doing that job, and not once did I EVER come close to forgetting my child was in the car. I also have MS which causes memory issues, and again can’t imagine it. It’s your child, they are suppose to be the most important thing in your life. How could you possibly forget?
I think that is very possible. Maybe drugged her and left her in the car thinking she would be fine there for a while. The whole Zanny the nanny thing was supposedly a reference to Xanax. Truly nauseating to think of.
she switched from Xanax to homemade chloroform and taped her mouth shut for when she would wake up and try to scream. Caylee likely bawled alone in a dark trunk until she choked to death on her own vomit and snot from the tape. I don't envy the dreams her mother must have when she can't numb her conscience with drugs. I feel deeply for them both and I wish I understood less about humans so I could just be angry at these kinds of tragedies sometimes.
Lesson of the day part 2 for me was reading the comments of other people saying how easy it is to forget kids in the car... Um no it's not, if you think it's easy then you shouldn't have children or you have no inner monologue and then it made me realize that these people can vote 😢
I made that rational decision for myself. It would have not been an adequate environment in which a child could flourish. I saw that it doesn't take all that much for a child to get damaged, even with the background of a typical nuclear family with no type of physical or mental abuse nor substance issues.
I once started to drive to work with my toddler son in my car but he was old enough to speak and said “mummy where are we going?”. I don’t know if I would have realised he was still in the car if he hadn’t spoken. I was lucky. I have nothing but sympathy for people who do forget their babies
I never felt that this case was proven. I don't think he killed the child purposely. That being said, the way that law enforcement judge people's reactions to trauma is something that should NEVER happen! There is not something that is a 'one size fits all' response. Everything that one does be it screaming, all the way to complete silence, is normal because people are different.
I really appreciate your empathy towards how mental health really can distort your decision making and how little police are equipped, therefore empathetic or even consistent with things like this. I know my story doesn’t even compare to the level of intensity - but I was in a disassociative episode operating a vehicle. I accidentally side swiped a rail and pulled over. No one saw me it was very slight. I was over 15 miles passed the exit I was supposed to get off at where I was ironically going to an appt with my neuropsychologist. I had no idea what had happened, I was very scared, completely confused. I watched back the video. They clearly thought I was under the influence. I blew a zero so they assume drugs. They first described me as “frantic and speedy” later as “sluggish and slurring” - the DRE contradicted the original suspicion of DUI. Meaning both thought I was under the influence, but the reason they suspected it was the exact opposite of the reason they decided to pursue charging me with it. It would be like them saying “yes she definitely had weight issues” and one report concludes in severely underweight and the other concludes in severely obese. But they still say I have weight issues. It wouldn’t make any sense. Those things need to match and be consistent. Anyway, I obviously had nothing in my system had a short stay at a voluntary hospital because I was actually just having a PTSD episode. I got convicted of a dui, but was not charged. I was operating a vehicle dangerously. But it was because my mind wasn’t there. Maybe if a mental health professional was involved from the start, we could have eliminated the legal stuff stress and money and anxiety it caused, and had me sent straight to the place that actually helped me. Like as I was having the wpisode, after the arrest, I called the police on myself because I felt like I was going crazy and what do you know? They brought a mental health professional to the scene. We talked, I wasn’t “going crazy” but I was having an episode and wasn’t safe so she helped me find a nice place and they drove me there in the front seat of the car. Much different then being hand-cuffed in the back of one the day before - strictly because they didn’t understand. Sorry guess I needed to get that off my chest 🤣
And if you had hit a pedestrian instead of a rail this story would have a dramatically different ending. I'm glad you're in a better state now, but maybe you shouldn't have driven a ton of metal moving at highway speeds in that state. The public would have been safer for it.
Over 20 minutes!, this is a throwback video! I enjoy when Dr. Grande gets a little more technical, when it comes to psycological profiles and corresponding experiences that shaped their psyches. I believe he has been simplifying things, so more people can understand the concepts, but I prefer when he goes a little deeper! Either way, I'm grateful for Dr. Grandes work!
When I was 18 I was diagnosed infertile. For a number of years I would dream that I had a baby and I would go to the mall and forget about it forget that I had a baby. Another dream was going to the grocery store and forgetting I had a baby and another dream was being at home with a baby and forgetting I had a baby. These were fairly unnerving dreams.
Oh, yes, they are just awful! I would dream I left my baby on top of the car and drive off. Once I dreamed I was babysitting a friend’s baby and it rolled out the back of my car and ants ate him (she had lost a baby), completely horrifying. Crazy what our subconscious comes up with and how something that isn’t real can make you have feelings as if they are.
So he asked his wife, "when are you picking up my buddy?" Then went to see a movie with friends after work? It's weird to me because I am always eager to get home to my son after only a couple of hours being away. That inquiry seems so staged.
I'm just speculating, but what if he didn't start the day with movie plans. What if he and his friends decided to go when they were at lunch? Or maybe it was a friend from his office. I'm not familiar enough with the case to know which friends he was going with. If it was decided at lunch, I find it strange that he didn't notify his wife, but maybe that was something in their messed up dynamic. I don't think he was a good guy, but I just don't know if he intended to kill his son.
To prevent hot car deaths take off one shoe and put it in the backseat with the baby. You won't get out with one shoe off and forget the baby.
Good one !!but can you legaly drive with only 1 shoe? I still like this way of thinking 👍
That is actually a good idea, I drive with my shoes off when I can not sure if it’s illegal but I prefer it bc I can feel the pedals
I've rarely driven with shoes/boots on (took my test minus shoes too) and always put my handbag and shoes on the back seat. Never left the baby in the car but did leave it home alone for 5mins. Sleep deprived, my youngest was about 5 days old when I went to go shopping. Git ready, off I set and a feeling of unease was overwhelming me. Got 30seconds down the road and realised that I'd got the baby ready and as he was asleep, I put him in his cot so I could get ready. I'll never forget that day, the panic, the fear and the guilt even 31yrs on!
Keeping your wallet or work ID with the carseat is another way to remember.
How simply smart that is! Thank you.
Please do a personality profile on each of your plants. I suspect the cactus is high in factor 2 psychopathy
I LOVE this idea!
This is the humor I needed after watching such a heartbreaking analysis. Thank you.
I think Hector has boundary issues.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Haha! How did you reach that conclusion?
Daycares need an efficient way to notify parents for no-shows.
fyi - the daycare sent him an email that day
I agree. My son goes to family daycare, so I'll be asked if he's not going in or late. But I still get paranoid when hubby drops him off and I'll text her asking how my son is coz I get anxious if hubby hasn't told me about drop off (I always get him to text me, just in case- because of these stories) 💕
@@ugleebuggs7597 omg really?! 😢
I don't think Leanna cared either way
@@tessajones9393 wow, what a life that must be!
Great analysis. The father's behavior toward women was an all-consuming addiction. Everything else in his life, his wife, his family, and his child were subordinate to it. He continued to pursue women knowing that in at least one case his behavior was a serious criminal offense, yet he was willing to live with the fear of criminal prosecution to pursue it. His mind and energy were so focused on gratifying himself there was nothing left for the care of his child. He didn't intend to harm his son that day, but his frame of mind excluded any thought for his care or even his presence. Dr. Grande's speculation that this was, in fact, a case of negligent homicide is highly probable.
Have a buddy who is exactly like this. He cheated on his ex-wife and used me as an excuse for his escapades (saying we were camping overnight). When we would go on hikes, his phone is always in his hand as he is always working on his next woman. You cannot have conversations with him because he is so engrossed in that world.
When a kid is that young, his life is depending on the guardians. Negligence to this extent is murder in this case, I think justice is served. That poor poor baby🙏🙏
I'm just here for the plants.
@@nennnennn I do think that negligent homicide is totally fair as a charge, and I know many think that it should be punished by life in prison, but in this case it makes me really concerned for the function of our legal system. This guy was declared guilty for first degree murder, while others get charged with negligent homicide. It seems like everyone wanted to believe he committed first degree murder because he was a shitty husband and was cheating with multiple women. (This isn’t a defense of the guy, just that the police and court in this situation seemed biased towards murder because of his affairs.) RIP Cooper.
It’s not surprising that someone juggling 6 women and a wife plus an underage girl would be absent minded. His head definitely wasn’t in the game. I think he forgot. He didn’t know but he should have known. It was negligent homicide.
I'm less than 3 minutes in and I feel physically nauseous and an overwhelming sense of dread thinking about what that child must have been experiencing trapped in the car. That poor, poor child.
Yea, absolutely horrible. It must have been absolute torture.
Osmium..I had the same feeling at three minutes in also
Yes, as a father of a 2 year old, this case was incredibly difficult to hear.
Everyone with a heart felt it too :(.
I heard his eyes where popped out, cops said it was horrific
When Ross text his wife about Cooper and picking him up at day care I think would have triggered the fact that he did not drop him off that day
That’s what I thought too.
It easily interprets the other way as well; in his mind Cooper of course was in the daycare, the "black out" confirming itself. "When fixed, stay fixed". Finally a big thanks to Dr Grande: your equilibrium almost has a European touch 😎
And the fact that when his wife went to pick the boy up, her first reaction was "oh he must have left Cooper in the car". That's pretty weird.
Also, parking in the shade gives the appearance that he didn't forget his kid intentionally.
Not necessarily I watched a Oprah clip from back in the day about a mother of 2 girls who was also a principal at a school & it was the 1st day of school it wasn't usual for her to take the child but she worked the whole day & even spoke to her employees about her children and showed pictures of her kids to them & she cannot understand why she just never realized. She didn't realize until she went in the car to leave around 4pm that day. You really just never know until it happens to you and hopefully it doesn't.
@@justkim9827 everybody wants to park in the shade lol
You guys, imagine Dr. Grande walking around with a shopping cart filled with little plants if you get sad and need a cheer up.
👏🏽 *slow clap* 👏🏽
Does Dr. Grande talk to plants too?
I am dying over the shopping cart story 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh my god this image is gonna take up space in my brain now and I’m so happy about it 😂😂😂😂
I'd pay to see this vlog. And I hate vlogs
You can't judge people's reactions to the death of a loved one. I lost my son, my only child and I was composed at the funeral, but my nights are disturbed with the horrific sight of him in the casket.
My deepest condolences for your tragic loss, Kelcie.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
Please take good care of yourself.
@Mel F
I'm sorry for your loss.
Take good care.
I am so sorry for your loss.
I too prefer to grieve at home alone. There is nothing anyone can do so there is no point in bringing them down.
I've lost quite a few close family members, I don't really cry because of death... I'm more likely to act agitate or cranky if that makes sense.
I had a friend who left her son in the car. She drove all the way to work before SHE REALIZED he was in the car. She took him to daycare. It scared the crap out of her. Never happened again.
I believe it. Severe sleep deprivation is really bad. Poor her. I’ve done shitty things too.
In this case though I don’t believe him one bit
It just goes to show that this kind of thing does happen. Stress, sleep deprivation, and the fact that some people are just more prone to forgetfulness than others. Particularly people with higher energy levels who tend to micromanage things. Both my husband and I suffer from this and we are constantly forgetting dates, misplacing things etc... I have to sympathize with these people to some extent because I could see myself making a mistake like this. I feel like people who don’t understand are too quick to judge. People like to see things in black-and-white because it is draining to be emotionally conflicted about things. Genuinely good people can make honest mistakes that make them look like monsters. I’m not saying that there shouldn’t be consequences for those mistakes but it doesn’t make them bad people, either.
@@transmeeshax6872 "high energy people who micromanage things and are forgetfull" is a nice way to reframe (sub? -) clinical ADHD. Have to remember that one. (edit: fixed typos. yes, typical me...)
I nearly did the same except my son was old enough to talk and he spoke up asking where we were going
This type of situation is really common. I've seen it many times. Most times the parent notices it. Or someone else does. This story is tragic.
"They were going to watch the movie 22 Jump Street. So, either way, he was in for a bad experience this evening." Savage.
@booby scoo too - Savage - but hilarious! The doctor slays me.
I wish he and I were friends.
My kind of humor.
Super dry delivery
In regards to Ross’s internal guilt & decision making skills: “Plus he was willing to pay money to see 22 Jump Street.”
Call me a snowflake if you want but the doctor sounded extremely socipathic there. Not funny, man.
@@tonydedoscortados217 snowflake
I find it difficult to believe he didn’t smell anything amiss in the car, the stench of sweat & excrement must have been in the air surely ?
@@kittyb275 🤢 it sets in that quick!? What does it smell like??? I’ve googled it before and can’t find a clear answer
@@chelseamunroe You know the sickly sweet-sour smell of hamburger when it goes bad? Like that, only more awful and intense.
@@chelseamunroe Sickly sweet rotted meat, imo. Really heavy and cloying, and once you smell it, some weird little lizard brain part of you knows what it is.
Maybe his car already smelled bad and he assumed it was just his own garbage
@@MissKitae sounds evolutionarily horrifying
One of the texts he sent to a mistress said he was tired of being married and being a father that the novelty had worn off. Him saying that makes me feel he had done this on purpose because he wanted his freedom.
I've always felt that way too. There was no "accidentally forgotten".
@@hjtres7261 damn, sorry for your kids, your marriage and for you
@@kallymcdonnell I'm not the one who left my kid in a 100 degree vehicle. And was cheating on my spouse with underage girls. But thanks...lmao
@@hjtres7261 hey sorry, didnt mean to put you off. That was my bad. I thought you were saying that you have felt like the novelty has worn off on marriage and parenting like OPs post. It is sad when people become unhappy with their lives, thats why i said i feel bad.
I definitely wasn’t trying to insinuate that you have neglected your children , left them in hot cars, or that you would be cheating w/ underage teens.
@@kallymcdonnell All good :) have a good weekend
This case haunted me. I kept imagining what Cooper experienced. The lack of response when the keys were chucked into the car at lunchtime to the smell was pivotal to me.
The Father is PETer pumpKIN EATer who is hung upside down on his own bROCKen cross as HE is a CAD MAN who is the 2 fACEs of Santa/Satan 'clause' Daddy The KING of HIS CASTle, MANsion or hoUSE of abUSE to women and children in HIS hoUSE. She follows HIS lead.
@@nettejohnson7492 A real loop of fruit. Wow!
@@nettejohnson7492 off your meds?
@@nettejohnson7492 you need help
Would a body smell that early in though?
"they were going to watch the movie 22 jump street, so either way, they were in for a bad experience"
love your dry humor 👍🏻
That slipped in so casually. I was like wow.
I genuinely spit my tea out when he said that. His dry humor is so hilarious!
😂😂
I hate it. worst part of the videos by far.
@@_sowhat_ Why? Without his humor the videos would be too dull and monotonous. I think he's hilarious.
The laws in Australia 🇦🇺 are becoming much tougher in regards to leaving children and animals in cars now 👏🏻
Only a bogan would leave a kid in a hot ass car
@@yazansakran3326 sadly non bogans can be just as dumb
Good. Little kids and animals are at the mercy of humans. It sucks to be stuck with some dumb ass mofo that can't take care of themselves or is sadistic and enjoys making the kid or animal suffer.
I'm still unsure what to believe because when my sister died extremely suddenly and the police knocked on my door and told me.. I barely reacted at all. I'm sure they thought it was strange. I can't even explain it. And I loved her with all my heart and was the closest person in my life. So I do agree there is no normal way to act given life changing news unexpectedly.
Edit: I just wanted to add a thank you to everyone for the positive feedback. I guess I should of also said I do lean towards him being guilty because as people have pointed out I didn't accidently kill my sister. I imagine my reaction would be different if that was the case.
Agree. After watching my father die of cancer I went out with the family to get tacos and sat laughing in the sunshine. I must have looked heartless or crazy, but the grief and depression hit me later. I loved him so deeply, but grief is strange.
@@annie_1718 I think it's also part denial / shock.
When my dad died, I chose to do my morning shift at work because I wanted to keep busy. Aside from a slight internal numbness, it was just an average day at work. Then I went to my mum’s and we watched whatever crappy TV was on in the early afternoon, because we weren’t ready to properly talk about it. Then I had a couple of friends over and we ordered in some food and had, honestly, a really great night. I remember laughing A LOT! In fact, I don’t think I properly cried until his funeral 2 weeks later - I remember going to my best friend in tears and happily saying “I’m finally crying!”.
Grief is fuckin’ wild.
Absolutely. When my grandfather died, I remember faking tears because I just didn't know how to react, and felt like if I didn't act sad I would look like a psychopath. I wasn't able to actually cry and grieve for real until at least a few months later. Humans are weird and everyone reacts to upsetting news differently, it's in no way fair to judge someone off that, alone.
We all handle things differently. I get irritated when I see people complaining that others aren’t acting normal after a death.
As if any of us know what normal is?
When my daughter was 2 years old I went through a phase of leaving my purse everywhere. My daughter was clutched in one arm and must have replaced in my mind and on my arm, my purse.Thank goodness I never forgot her, but I drove myself nuts with forgetting my purse.
Yep. Same with wallet. My child would NEVER be forgotten.
At my age now (76), I call myself Wonder Woman; "I wonder where I put my keys, I wonder where I parked my car, I wonder where I hung my jacket..."
@@dreyddog19 eh people say that but if you're exhausted cause baby kept you up all not or whatever, tons of stuff going on, it's easier than you'd think. When my son was younger i forgot him in the car for 4 or 5 minutes once and freaked out super hard on myself. Took him to the pediatrician and everything who said he was fine and that it's actually more common than you think
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I love how much Dr. Grande dislikes the idea of paying to see 22 Jump Street
Gee, don't you?!
@@lidahall5928 most definitely
👍👍
I dislike the idea of having to watch it. Let alone paying to watch it..
That’s all I need to know about this dude to know is of questionable character.
That poor poor baby what he must have went thru because of his weiner obsessed father. Rest in peace little Cooper.💔
Orange county
When I was a baby my mum once left me outside the shops in my pram. She only realised when my grandmother who lived with us then was like, "where's the baby Florence?". It was normal back then (1960s) to leave a baby in a pram outside a shop when you went inside (fear of abduction was negligible). She just came out of the shop and walked home.
My mum was a loving mother who cared passionately for us kids, never negligent, abusive or unloving in any way. Sometimes people just glitch.
This happened to me, it was one of my first outings with my 2months old and i left her in a bakery, asleep in her pram, after buying bread. The owner called me shouting and i kinda "woke up". I had forgotten that I had the baby with me!
@@frappalina
My Mom, who was a fantastic, loving and caring Mom, once left me at the library.
I was quietly reading a little book, she was browsing and just left and drove away.
She said she kept thinking she forgot something...
And finally realized it was me!!!😅
She quickly came back and I was still in the same spot with my little book.
Cheers!
I put my newborn through parcel pickup at the grocery store. She was less than two weeks old. I realized about 10 seconds later and ran back to retrieve her. This “forgotten baby” thing does happen! But hours and hours pass?? No, something is wrong about that. You have to be in some really shady crap that’s occupying your mind to forget for so long. He wasn’t thinking about his baby at all.
So true! Parenting can be exhausting, and getting distracted does happen. I've always felt murder was the wrong charge in this case. Involuntary manslaughter makes more sense.
When I got my first baby, sometimes I forgetting her on the backseat. I felt ashamed of myself. How come so important like that, I can’t remember if I have it. Sometimes your brain can play tricks on you
Incels: "I can't get a girlfriend because I'm ugly!"
*Meanwhile, Ross had a wife, had a son, and had 6 girlfriends looking...the way he does....*
Fair
He’s absolutely hideous!
Haha. I was thinking the same thing. He looks like Pillsbury Dough Boy. But let's get real, you all know those "6 girlfriends" were probably superficial, stupid, narcissistic, lying online "relationships."
Yes but Ross probably never thought or call himself ugly. Being kind to yourself will make you so much more attractive to women.
@@katrina5265 haha, the positive thinking movement. These so-called relationships of Ross's were probably online, nothing real, and nothing more than weird nakedness and attention seeking.
I'm the sort of person who is always checking I have my keys, wallet and phone on me at all times. If I had a kid I'm pretty sure I'd include it in my mental list.
You judge very easy.
@@pluutoop I was talking about me.
@@linusfotograf yes....yes you are...very easy to judge other people if you don't even have children of your own. You know for 100% that you would Never forget your child in a car?
@@pluutoop I’m pretty sure yes for the reasons I mentioned. Tell me how I’m judging anyone though.
I do this same thing with my five year old, one time I was very tired and driving somewhere. I realized she wasn't in her car seat and started panicking/crying about how I could have just left her. I called my husband and of course he had her, being sleep deprived does funny things to you.
Fatal Distraction is a great article on people who truly forget their children in hot cars. The interview with the neurologist about the effects of sleep deprivation on the human brain was fascinating and scary.
Sleep deprivation is used as a torture method. Will look up the article you mention, thanks for that suggestion.
And blacks and poor people and women and mentally compromised people will have most of that
This is the article that changed my mind on the subject.
And the fact that he was constantly sexting 8 women throughout the day i feel works in the favour of the forgetful baby syndrome theory since it can be used to argue how preoccupied he was. Sexting from morning and throughout office, managing multiple secretive conversations with work.. his mind was obsessed with his addiction and highly preoccupied thus making the forgetfulness more likely than an average parent. Not saying that he is innocent or guilty, but the 8 women fact imo makes an argument for his defence as well. He had quite a bad lawyer.
Moreover, it is mostly the men who find one seemingly potential partner who are looking to get out of marriages in such ways. Men engaging in multiple meaningless sexual counters with the knowledge of their wife are mostly looking to keep their family life as well as have fun on the side ie best of both worlds. They dont want to lose either of them. Again not arguing in favour but stating what arguements could have been made. His lawyer did a bad job of just objecting to all mentions of his side-life and trying to brush them under the rug as "irrelevant" which was a pathetic strategy given how evident they were. He should have probably tried to embrace them and make them work in his favor. But then im no lawyer.
Regarding forgotten baby syndrome... When I was a young mother living in military housing, our neighbours had just had a baby recently. I was outside with my own child and watched them both walk into the house hand in hand with no baby. I didn't think much of it until a few moments later the two of them came rushing out their front door actually yelping out loud and dashing to their car to retrieve the baby in its car seat. They were solidly shocked and mortified at their indiscretion.
Indiscretion
Ive come across a car where a baby was locked in the back. It was on an extremely hot day, in fact we were at a water park. The baby was beat red and foaming at the mouth. My friend found a rock and smashed thr window. Thr baby was so hot like a pot roast straight out of the oven. By then cops came on the scene bcuz a bystander called them. The mother was non chalantly walking back from a convenience store carrying a "big freeze" (frozen drink) for herself. Unreal!!!
@@doeeyes2 she mustve been high or intentionally wanted to be free of the baby. I hope they tested her. And followed up to see if she has a pattern of neglect and abuse.
U never ever leave a kid in a car.. simpel as that
@@doeeyes2 wow that is just awful that poor baby. That had to be intentional.
Knowing Dr. Grande has a warrior dialogue between his plants going on in his head while he strolls the aisles makes me feel better about my own vivid imaginings.
lol
With the flattest affect ever: "Thank you for watching this segment where I name plants." Why do I find that so funny? lmao
It's because his humor is so dry.
@@Iiwii11 yes and I love it! Haha
Julie Carlson Me too!
Wendy Swain I know what you mean. I have a sense of humor like his and sometimes people don't know I'm joking. It's like they want me to go, "ha ha ha," but I just can't do that.
Because were so used to him being calm about everything that we expected the slightest bit of enthusiasm about a personal subject at least 😂
How was that guy having any affairs...truly he is a cave troll. Ladies is it that bad out there? Help me understand??
IKR
Lol
Dude I absolutely can not understand this. Extremely overweight AND significantly unattractive, with some kind of severe scarring or some crap on his face. This guy must have been pursuing women with more effort than his full time job, and they had to be very unattractive , it doesn’t make sense any other way.
@RGB 18 no doubt
@@OakleyANDSittingBull pretty crazy and sad
It never ceases to amaze me how calming your voice is. I have started falling asleep on numerous occasions. You are not boring, just have a calming and tranquil effect upon me. Thank you for this.
Dr NyQuil, at your service 😂
"Either way he was in for a bad experience.. ". Shade thrown. Shade caught.
Dr Grande, you need a T-shirt that says, "Who Moved the Plants?".
Me too 🙂👍
I would buy this as well!
🤣🤣🤣 gosh!! he might gaslight you.
Great idea!pls include the mug.with print,Not diagnosing only speculating over a cup of coffee😀😀😀😀
Great idea!
"It's just awkward sometimes to get them all to play nice in the shopping cart."
-Dr. Grande, PhD., plant dad ❤ 🎓🌱😍
"There's nothing scientific about naming plants." - Dr. Grande, PhD., 2021
Just show them all the same love and attention w/o playing favorites and your plants will be as happy as your wife and children.
“Either way, he was in for a bad experience.”
One of his best yet.
I’m torn between him being guilty and having his head so far up his A$$ that he couldn’t think of anything else. Poor sweet Cooper. May that innocent baby be resting in peace.
I don't think he killled him on purpose mistakes and accidents can happen. It's his only son/child it seems. I know people can make mistakes. Yes a parent that dosn't want a child could do that but mistakes happen and I don't think he mean't to or did it on purpose. I have been forgotten before at school because my mom was so busy working single mom and she thought she had already picked me up and dropped me off at home it was a mistake. I even forgotten so many things too and important things. It can happen. Even when my brother was suppose to drive me to school he would forget sometimes and pass my school. I know some people say how can that a parent forget a child or thought they had already dropped them off/pick them up but it can happen
@@arichalevas2298 Agree. I feel so sorry for him about this. He has to live with this the rest of his life. It’s just sad. My mother forgot me once and I don’t blame her.
@@arichalevas2298 Dr Grande left out his internet search history showed he'd searched 'baby deaths in hot cars'.
@@sarahholland2600 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How could he forget this one????
Thank you for adding a reasoned response to this tragedy.
It's interesting how different parents minds work, consciously and subconsciously. I was 23 when I had my son and was a single parent. I took my son everywhere, even to the toilet with me. I relaxed as the years went on but I remember being extremely alert to where he was at all times
I agree. I hardly slept for the first two years of my son's life. I was chronically exhausted, but there's no way I would have ever forgotten he was with me.
Right my daughter is five and I still haven't pooped alone yet. She is working on it though
I agree on different ways people react to stress. For example,when someone tell me bad or sad news I often have to stop myself from laughing or smiling even though I don't find it funny at all.
I have to stifle laughter at funerals sometimes
I had a friend like that. She got us in so much trouble laughing and smiling at the wrong times. 😆
As a former Daycare worker, I’m wondering why someone from the Daycare facility didn’t call one or both of Cooper’s parents when he didn’t arrive that day… at the Daycare I worked at it was protocol to call a child’s parents if they didn’t arrive at their normal drop-off time without any previous notice of an absence or a phone call from the parents that morning.
That phone call would have saved his life!
I would go so far as to say the Daycare was negligent, not legally perhaps, but certainly ethically. Schools and daycares do and must plan for what happens when a child doesn't show up as expected. For all they know someone could have snatched the child and be crossing borders by the afternoon, when the parents come to pick-up.
@@m2heavyindustries378 exactly. Even when I was in high school, if I was absent and my parents forgot to call the school to notify them, the school would send an automated message to my parents about my absence that morning. I worked at a daycare in the infant room and the director would call parents as soon as possible if a baby didn’t show up when they normally would. This is something every daycare should be doing, I just wonder why a call wasn’t made.. regardless though, it’s the father’s fault ultimately.
@@napoleonsparis2058 yup. i didnt think about that. but thats probably the most important thing in this case.
it couldve saved his life.
Back In the 90s when my son went to daycare you didn’t have to call if they missed a random day. If they were sick for more than a day that was different. But it’s not like missing a day of school when older. It is daycare. I don’t think the daycare missed anything
I’m only here for the plants...🌵🧡
(that’s a lie, lol)
Love Dr. Grande, but I'm always following the plants, it's weirdly satisfying. I hope to see a hanging fern one day, that would just blow my mind!
Dr. Grande is taunting us with the idea that the plants speak and can realize their personal motivations, when it's so clear that the plants are helpless to stop him from using them to send messages to the alien lizard people.
@@_Nanigashi 🤣🤣
🛎🛎🛎
I'm only here for Dr Grande 🇬🇧
You say “Every body said Harris was a great father”,,,,,,well--that’s what was said about Chris Watts and Chris Coleman too.
I’m with grande on this. This sounds more like negligence than malice.
God, sorry, but I think Chriss Watts touched his daugthers 😖 that man looks evil.
And Susan smith if you want to add mothers
That's so scary, to think that beneath good loving fathers lays a murderer, just waiting to attack..
Chris Watts was a great father though. Obviously only until he wasn't, but everyone, including family friends and folks from both sides of the family never wavered on their assertions about his parenting.
How in the hell was that guy having multiple affairs? He looks like the Pillsbury dough boy. (And I’m obese lol)
Probably because his BMI didn't carry that much weight in their decision.
@@_lil_lil I wasn’t only talking about his weight. Lol. My obese comment was about myself not him.) I was also talking about that Gerber baby face. He looks like a baby in a grown up sized body. I mean, when you are looking for a mate looks don’t matter at all. I’ve been married 20 years and neither myself nor my husband are good looking. That doesn’t matter. But if you are looking for a hookup like this guy was (and you aren’t the hookers he was also seeing) looks usually play a big part in it. Bc it’s about sex not an emotional connection. Ya know?
@@aerynstormcrow I think they were making a joke. Bmi didnt hold much WEIGHT get it?
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Either hookers or some online relationship nonsense,in which he didnt use real photos of himself!
I don't know how anyone could doubt this was deliberate!
My parents once forgot me in the car at a shopping centre, but they noticed within a couple mins while they were still walking through the carpark
My wife always sits in the back next to the baby
Forgotten Baby Syndrome is one of the most awful things I can imagine happening to me. The details in stories about this happening just make me feel sick.
But I doubt you’d take your child in the car for the day and just forget for the whole day.
One trip, maybe as I’ve seen it happen. But an entire day with multiple stops just seems too far fetched.
His police interview did not sit well with me. His crying felt forced and disingenuous.
As impossible as I want to believe leaving one’s child in the car would be….if dropping off the child was completely out of the normal routine for the parent coupled with a ridiculously distracting, all-consuming “hobby,” it may have just happened. Also, if the child had fallen asleep on the drive to the destination, there would have been no familiar noises of a child in the backseat to remind him. What an absolutely tragic case. Thank you Dr. Grande!
When you're editing, you should put a lowpass filter on your audio track and play with it until the hiss is gone. Pretty quick to add once you have a template, and makes all the difference.
Now I will never un-hear the hissing 🤣
I hope he sees this!
Lmao didn't expect Tara Babcock in the comments here xD I'm a subscriber hello :3
@@viktoriavesely513 thanks for the inadvertent referral! 👌🏼
Dude I didnt even notice it until I read this. Smh lol
Ross filled his day with busyness and lots of witnesses; this was completely premeditated.
I wouldn't be so sure... In the day of my sons baptism i had to make both of us ready, do the weekend shopping, meet the priest, and walk the dog. All of this before 10 am. I was so busy that i forgot the dog at the store 😑
Yeah, makes sense
@@chritels1246 I feel bad for your child for forcing religion on them. They don’t deserve that.
@@rhyshamilton7406 😂😂😂 I'm an Atheist, but OK 😂 Here in Austria we let our kids just get baptised because they get a bunch of presents. But I really appreciate your highly informed input. You made me a better person. Thank you
Yes..obviously...a horrible horrible crime!!
Ross was charged with multiple crimes, including his haircut.
Lol
Ericka, you made me actually laugh-out-loud!
@@barbmccafferty4533 😂🤣
And his loss in the genetic lottery.
And his nose or should I say snout!
Dr. Grande is a deep thinker with a tender heart. Thanks for another smart, funny and spot on opinion video!
Greetings to other Dr. Grande fans!
Hey there! 👍
Hi from Scotland
おはようございます！
Hey
Hey Richard.
I saw this case when it happened. The way he “cried” about his son being dead was absolutely pathetic. He put on a show and a very bad one at that. Then he had the audacity to complain to the police the car was too hot. What?! He deserves to go out the same way poor little Cooper did.
@@trueCrimeGuruYes He is still a narcissist devoid of empathy
If I was the police I would have left him in the car after we got to the station and came out 2 hours later saying oops
If it wasn't too hot for him, why are you complaining it was too hot for Cooper?
@@trueCrimeGuruYes Ross is a piece of shit who knowingly let his son die in a hot car. The “doctor” is wrong and is absolutely bias in this situation. Have your even watched the video? Poor acting at its best. This garbage human wanted a life without a child and killed him off.
@@AltClev37 This guy is biased towards men. I don't believe ms Bobbit severed her husbands penis because he failed to give her an orgasim either. what bs
I missed these long videos. You work really hard posting daily, how do you do it!?
Dr. Grande's the best! Unfortunately...there's no shortage of people.
Alien lizard helpers. Duh! 🤪
I want whatever coffee he drinks 😂
The plants are his writers and editors. He's just the mouthpiece. 😆
@@LDiamondz Oh, they're the Brains, he's just the Beauty, lol!!! I love it!
The thing I keep coming back to is the text message he sent his wife that day... asking when she's picking up Cooper from daycare.
I'd like to know if this is something Ross texted his wife about daily, or if it was out of the ordinary for him to ask her this. If he's never texted or called her any other day to ask when she's picking up their son, it would seem odd to me that he did so on that day. Almost as if he wanted to seem like he thought he had dropped Cooper off that morning. 🤔
Same here ! Because if that was his first time asking her what time she was picking the boy up from daycare I’d say he’s definitely guilty.
I also think it's super weird that Dr. Grande just glossed over the fact that his wife was both SHOWN the video about animals in hot cars and that his wife also SAID to the daycare that if her son was never dropped off that her husband must have left him in the car. So eery I don't think she was in on it but I think she has a feeling it was premeditated and just can't admit it to herself. Never disagreed with Dr Grande on a case more than this one to be honest.
When I worked at Walmart , several times people forgot their babies in the store and went home, once they didn’t come back until45 minutes after the store closed. The management wouldn’t even let us call the police to do a check to make sure these people were safe to take care of their kids.
You mean like toddlers walking around or babies in car seats or what?? Either way thats disturbing.
Baby in car seat in buggy
the wife's behavior is still suspicious to me. why the text? why the question about him talking too much? feels like she was in on it.
Yes her behavior and reaction was weird.
Wow this was an awful case, I tip my hat to you for being able to remain sane whilst doing your research.
There are no winners in this one, really sad 😔!
I have a huge fern named Sideshow Bob!!! I have others with names. I love that you name your plants! I like that you give the background story how their names came about!! I love your channel!! Your subtle sense of humor makes me truly laugh out loud at times 😂😂😂 We’ll have to get our plants together!
Dr. Grande, can you please do a analysis of Dr. Grande? I am not asking you to diagnose yourself, only speculate as to what is really going on with Dr. Grande.
hentai and bug squishing
Yeah - definitely something with that guy
This is about an event that happened a number of years ago in Macon, GA. A professional man, working downtown, left a young child (son or daughter) in his parked car when he went to his office. That am he had forgotten to take his child to daycare. Fortunately, this child was found around 30 minutes later and rescued. Understandably, this man was devastated knowing how close he had come to killing his own child.
Yes his fake crying was what did me in .One moment crying with no tears,next one talking Perfectly Normal.He was a Really Bad actor .
And complaining that he was too hot in the police car?!
@@EmEm78 Yes l caught that Screwed up remark too !!😠
I sometimes cry for a few seconds then stop immediately. It's not that I am not sincere, I just hate public crying so I control my emotions in public.
@@carolmk3114 aye, I guess you and I will always be guilty because we cry differently to others.
It's not so much how he was acting, as the contrast between how he acted with people watching vs. without.
You're delightfully eccentric, Dr. Grande. Laid back, deadpan, and imaginative; an original.
Someone who is a "good father" does not endanger his child's healthy home life by having affairs.
PREACH
THANK YOU
To be fair, you can have healthy relationships with divorced parents, affairs are certainly not amazing but going from affairs to automatically being a bad parent, that's jumping the gun alright.
@@Camustang a good parent won’t wilfully undermine their child’s trust and/or family for personal gratification, IMO.
@@Camustang Sounds like you’re having affairs.
“22 jump street. So either way he was in for a bad evening.” I love your deadpan jokes.
😂😂😂 me too!
I remember going to antenatal classes and the midwife telling me that a new mum got out of a taxi, leaving the baby in the car (luckily the taxi driver noticed). She put it down to the new mum being so used to being pregnant and having the baby with her all the time, not yet used to thinking of the baby as a separate entity to herself.
this is definitely an experience that occurs bc I have felt this with every single one of my babies. it was a very strange thing to adjust to them being outside of my body.
@@stellabell9074 As a woman who has not had a child, this is interesting and terrifying.
@@Username26425 ikr that’s honestly quite terrifying
22 months later?
@@stephaniehowe0973 You'd be surprised how that, coupled in with COUNTLESS sleepless nights, can turn 22 months into what's perceived as closer to 22 days..... I only wish I was kidding.
For all our efforts, the human brain and the human body is _not_ a machine. We make countless errors every day, even with perfect nutrition and perfect sleeping habits.
When you take those perfect self care habits away.... The human brain starts to behave more like a tapioca pudding, and less like a flawless machine than it already does.
Though I don't think that's what happened in the case Dr Grande is discussing. I'm just saying for the records sake.
I have three children and I never left any of them in the car. Thank God they're now 41,40 and 36. God bless everyone,
I would highly recommend watching the interrogation footage. I went into it thinking that it was probably an accident and people show grief in a variety of ways. Nope, it was so obviously fake and bad acting. It was ridiculous.
I love Dr. Grandes plant stories. I feel like he could be a play write that could write scenes but instead of live actors its just potted plants tastefully arranged on a stage and then he explains whats going on in the plants lives.
Dr. Grande, sometimes I listen to you to fall asleep bc your voice is so soothing. You should make recordings of you talking for people w insomnia 😆❣️🤟
Every 🌃
Agree!
Yes and then I miss all the subtle jokes, if I don’t watch out.
A guided meditation series would be awesome
Yeah hes got the perfect voice for asmr
I can kinda see why she would go straight to "he left the baby in the hot car"? I mean, to me I think she did that because 1- if he was never dropped off, he probably never left the car and 2- I do understand the immediate thought of "well he'd never intentionally kill cooper" and "ross was busy and had to go to work", so I can see how two and two were put together and led to Leana thinking, "Ross left cooper in the car"
She didnt say “he left the baby in the hot car” she said “he left the baby in the car”
@@melody3741 who cares...
He had a sex addiction it sounds like, & had a lot going on. Maybe he'd left the baby before, & it wasn't for very long, or result in injury or death. That & the fact the child didn't make it to daycare, could be a reason for her to jump to that assumption....
@@IChooseJesus9091 Agree sounds like something that happened before. No matter what this man is paying dearly for putting everything before his child💔
Its astounding there were 6 other females interested in him
Right! What did they see in him!!!!
Why?
Depravity knows no gender
I'm pretty sure that these women were his size / in his range or category.
@@consuetudinis lol what?
Hi Doc! Can't believe I'm the first one to hear the names of your plants! This story is so horrible, I need those 🪴!
Anyone else find Dr. Grande's voice incredibly calming?
Absolutely 🇬🇧
I remember when this story first broke. I was so upset thinking what that poor little boy went thru. I thought that guy was a monster. Thanks for putting it in another perspective.
I hear “The Pink Panther” theme playing when Dr Grande is moving the Plants...
OMG. That's exactly what should be playing, lol it would be so funny to hear that.
Perfect!
Nice
How about, speeding it up and playing the "Benny Hill" theme tune ?
@@mlsaulnier Me too, lol.
I have a difficult time relating to parents that "forget" about their children. I was 13 years old when my baby was born; I never forgot him anywhere (although I did lose him once at a department store 😭). When I started driving, I avoided taking my baby with me to fill up on gas because I didn't want to leave him in the car, not even for one second. There were some times when I had to take him with me and although it was hassle to have to unbuckle and rebuckle him while I pumped gas, I nevertheless did so. I've locked my keys in my car far too many times to count. And my scientific calculator exploded when I forgot it inside my car on a hot day, but I have never, ever forgotten my child. I honestly can't comprehend about this forgotten baby syndrome and I hope I never experience it. On a lighter note, Hektor the plant is absolutely darling in his teeny tiny pot🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰.
You sound like a really good mom :)
@@1985bjaycat you're the sweetest! Thank you for your kind words ☺️😚.
You sound like such a loving, caring, involved mother. Especially at your age of 13 years old. I'm currently 32 years old with my precious 2 year old daughter. I, too, cannot understand or even fathom "forgotten baby syndrome". I'm aware of the sleep deprivation aspect of parenthood, and motherhood as my daughter was not the best sleeper until recently (sort of). Adrianna Marie would only sleep on my chest the first 6 months of her life, then my fiance and I would bed share until 18 months and all of a sudden, Adrianna decided that she was ready to sleep in her crib, in her own room. I'm a SAHM and a FTM, so the majority of Adrianna Marie's caretaking is all on me, which I actually love because my daughter has given purpose to my life. BUT, reading your story and trying to imagine doing everything at 13 years old, honestly I don't think I was mature enough to put my own selfishness & immaturity (at that age; just on a personal note relating to my life) aside to be a mother. I think that I wouldn't be the type of mother I currently am, or close to it. So from one mother to another, your comment inspired me and I wanted to commend you on all you've done for your child and wish you and your family the best. I thoroughly enjoy hearing/reading about young mothers who actually take on motherhood and take it seriously. All too often do we hear stories related to the "Teen Mom" saga or the worse. Good for you! Your doing amazing! I still don't understand how a parent can forget that their child is in the car, and although I'm not condemning anyone who may have done it, if someone is that tired they shouldn't be behind the wheel with their young child in the car to begin with IMHO.
@Bananarama, I agree with you and have written my own thoughts and experiences further up in the comments.
Hey I'm really impressed that you not only chose to keep your baby, but chose to be a better mom than most who are "old enough".
I'd put my million dollars on 'guilty'. I've read elsewhere that the child seat was situated literally inches from Harris's face. How could he have missed it while he was parking? Did he not look in the rear-view mirror? I've also read that the journey between the restaurant and his place of work would have taken only 3 or 4 minutes. That's a very short time to place your child in the car and forget about him.
Most children in rear facing car seats are not visible in the rear view mirror. Very different from when car seats were in the front
Remember, too, that Ross is hearing impaired.
FRom a similarly inhumane childhood experience at night in early December, the smell after three hours was putrid and overwhelming despite the frost on the windows. I can't fathom how he was even able to pretend when he put the lightbulbs in. I would think the smell would hit him so hard it would snap him out of his bout of selfish psychosis at least long enough to register the reaction on the security footage.
@@jguenther3049 Being hearing impaired makes you forget you have a kid??? Ok...
@@signespencer6887 I had a rear-facing car seat that was in the back of my car and I could see it while I was driving, let alone while parking.
In this age, it seems easy for cars and carseats to be built with compatible electronics. The carseat should plug into the car like a trailer is connected for lighting. When the carseat's harness is buckled (ie baby in the carseat) an alarm should activate when the driver door is open. The alarm could be a chime, flashing cabin lights, etc. It seems so easy.
Stories like this make me thankful my parents didn’t murder me when they easily could have.
I know my parents would never think of killing me they have souls and huge loving hearts
The word ‘murder’ implies intent. I don’t think these people always have ...
I think my parents have gotten close, I was a little sh*t when I was little.
They named you Kevin. That’s child abuse in my book. 😜
@@folkloreofbeing , I know what you mean so was I ! 😂
Hell na he did it. Way too many things fell into place perfectly. He didn't drive his own car at lunch then he had an alibi by texting his wife "when are YOU getting our son" helllll na
@@lesliecas2695 If the smell really was overpowering and the whole thing was planned, why wouldn't he just initiate the 911 call when he got to his car after work? Him driving half way home and then calling 911 isn't really a critical part of the plan, so I don't see why he'd do it at all. If everything was planned, you'd think that when he realized the smell was overpowering, he'd just go "oh crap this isn't going to work" and just call 911 right away.
"Also, he was willing to pay money to see 22 jumpstreet" XD gotta love those subtle jokes
Especially said it that very calming voice he has.🌞
Dr.Grande you are so funny, and wonderful. Love your explanation of the plants names!
When my son was a baby, on the rare occasions he wasn’t with me I would park the car and automatically go and start to take him out of his car seat on autopilot and remember I didn’t have him. It always freaked me out that I could do the opposite. If I forgot I didn’t have him, could forget I had him? I don’t think that is what happened here but I was so paranoid and I do think there are genuine cases where parents have forgotten kids.
Hell I do the same with my niece, and I only drive with her a few times a month. It can be 11 at night and I know she’s at home with her mom and I’ll still check the back seat. I know this does happen accidentally, but I do wonder how often people forget their kids during winter time?
You realize, Dr. Grande, that now I must have a T-Shirt made that says, “There is No Pact Between Cacti and Men”... thanks a lot.
Haha perfect !!!!
"There's nothing scientific bout naming plants"
*Carl Linnaeus rolls in grave*
No literally. What
What's scientific about naming your pets?
Carl lived near the church but often found a reason not to attend because he found some interesting plant on the way there. His dog then went on his own to the church , stayed under Carl’s seat at the front bench but never stay for the hole sermon. When the priest complain to Carl not attending he replied that his sermons was so long and boring not even his dog could stand them. 😂. It was in Danmark church near Uppsala in Sweden, his home is a museum and have a nice garden with many plants he gave scientific names. 😉
Lol 😂
i thought the same thing when he said it 😂
This is one of the best analysis I’ve heard about this tragic case. I also enjoyed the plant-naming backstory 👍🏽
Dear Dr Grande: how long have you been naming your plants?
How do you think your plants feel about this?
bruh how he gonna like this and not respond
I have tons of plants. I actually really think they like being named and talked to. Lol
“Either way he was in for a bad evening” 💀🤣
That joke seriously hit me in the gut, its just so dark yet nonchalant lmao.The Doc is an absolute savage.
21 Jump Street gets the Epic double dinger in this video! Who rubbed you the wrong way more? The Jonah guy or the Tatum guy?
I laughed. I thought the movie wasn't bad though. Maybe my standards are too low.
@@pegleg2959 same that one got me lmao
Yeah, that was funny.
he parked in the shade most likely because he wasnted to park in the back,so Cooper couldnt be seen or heard...same reason he was late for work, because if he was on time others in the parking lot would have been getting there around same time and may have seen/heard Cooper ! I can't believe these points wasnt raised!
Wow these are strong points! Doughboy guilty for sure
Who doesnt park in the shade when it is an option and im sure you've never been late to work
Pure speculation, nothing solid.
Not only that, but he parked in the same area every day... Except that day. Absolutely guilty!
Good catch
I absolutely can’t imagine anyone forgetting their child. I worked as a teacher and had a TON of stress doing that job, and not once did I EVER come close to forgetting my child was in the car. I also have MS which causes memory issues, and again can’t imagine it. It’s your child, they are suppose to be the most important thing in your life. How could you possibly forget?
It happens very frequently actually. There is a very good documentary called Death of a Child on the subject which you may want to watch.
This breaks my heart 💜
Maybe this is how Caylee Anthony died. Left in a hot car while her mother partied/passed out somewhere.
I think that is very possible. Maybe drugged her and left her in the car thinking she would be fine there for a while. The whole Zanny the nanny thing was supposedly a reference to Xanax. Truly nauseating to think of.
Omg how have I never thought of this? Because we never really knew for sure cause of death right? Poor thing her body was too decomposed
she switched from Xanax to homemade chloroform and taped her mouth shut for when she would wake up and try to scream. Caylee likely bawled alone in a dark trunk until she choked to death on her own vomit and snot from the tape. I don't envy the dreams her mother must have when she can't numb her conscience with drugs. I feel deeply for them both and I wish I understood less about humans so I could just be angry at these kinds of tragedies sometimes.
Plus poor Kaylee was probably drugged as well.
@@maebandy is this true? Jesus.
Lesson of the day: Not everyone should procreate.
understatement of decade
Lesson of the day part 2 for me was reading the comments of other people saying how easy it is to forget kids in the car... Um no it's not, if you think it's easy then you shouldn't have children or you have no inner monologue and then it made me realize that these people can vote 😢
I made that rational decision for myself. It would have not been an adequate environment in which a child could flourish. I saw that it doesn't take all that much for a child to get damaged, even with the background of a typical nuclear family with no type of physical or mental abuse nor substance issues.
No one should going by this logic because there is always someone out there who hates you.
@@omginvalid huh?
"...so either way he was in for a bad experience this evening..."
I appreciate Dr. Grande's humour.
I once started to drive to work with my toddler son in my car but he was old enough to speak and said “mummy where are we going?”. I don’t know if I would have realised he was still in the car if he hadn’t spoken. I was lucky. I have nothing but sympathy for people who do forget their babies
I have something other than sympathy.
i was literally terrified to leave my puppy in the car for a few minutes to grab him treats from Publix. I cannot imagine doing it with a baby.
Yeah, I think, 'even if I know I'm supposed to come back, what if I have an accident and I'm incapacitated.' Or an earthquake...
@@Dark_AbsoI yeah just BUY a Tesla.
@@twodumbcats390 lol
I never felt that this case was proven. I don't think he killed the child purposely.
That being said, the way that law enforcement judge people's reactions to trauma is something that should NEVER happen! There is not something that is a 'one size fits all' response. Everything that one does be it screaming, all the way to complete silence, is normal because people are different.
I really appreciate your empathy towards how mental health really can distort your decision making and how little police are equipped, therefore empathetic or even consistent with things like this. I know my story doesn’t even compare to the level of intensity - but I was in a disassociative episode operating a vehicle. I accidentally side swiped a rail and pulled over. No one saw me it was very slight. I was over 15 miles passed the exit I was supposed to get off at where I was ironically going to an appt with my neuropsychologist. I had no idea what had happened, I was very scared, completely confused. I watched back the video. They clearly thought I was under the influence. I blew a zero so they assume drugs. They first described me as “frantic and speedy” later as “sluggish and slurring” - the DRE contradicted the original suspicion of DUI. Meaning both thought I was under the influence, but the reason they suspected it was the exact opposite of the reason they decided to pursue charging me with it. It would be like them saying “yes she definitely had weight issues” and one report concludes in severely underweight and the other concludes in severely obese. But they still say I have weight issues. It wouldn’t make any sense. Those things need to match and be consistent. Anyway, I obviously had nothing in my system had a short stay at a voluntary hospital because I was actually just having a PTSD episode. I got convicted of a dui, but was not charged. I was operating a vehicle dangerously. But it was because my mind wasn’t there. Maybe if a mental health professional was involved from the start, we could have eliminated the legal stuff stress and money and anxiety it caused, and had me sent straight to the place that actually helped me. Like as I was having the wpisode, after the arrest, I called the police on myself because I felt like I was going crazy and what do you know? They brought a mental health professional to the scene. We talked, I wasn’t “going crazy” but I was having an episode and wasn’t safe so she helped me find a nice place and they drove me there in the front seat of the car. Much different then being hand-cuffed in the back of one the day before - strictly because they didn’t understand.
Sorry guess I needed to get that off my chest 🤣
And if you had hit a pedestrian instead of a rail this story would have a dramatically different ending. I'm glad you're in a better state now, but maybe you shouldn't have driven a ton of metal moving at highway speeds in that state. The public would have been safer for it.
Todd Grande should do a Big Five profile for each of his plants as a 1,000,000 subscriber celebration video
Over 20 minutes!, this is a throwback video!
I enjoy when Dr. Grande gets a little more technical, when it comes to psycological profiles and corresponding experiences that shaped their psyches.
I believe he has been simplifying things, so more people can understand the concepts, but I prefer when he goes a little deeper!
Either way, I'm grateful for Dr. Grandes work!
When I was 18 I was diagnosed infertile. For a number of years I would dream that I had a baby and I would go to the mall and forget about it forget that I had a baby. Another dream was going to the grocery store and forgetting I had a baby and another dream was being at home with a baby and forgetting I had a baby. These were fairly unnerving dreams.
Oh, yes, they are just awful! I would dream I left my baby on top of the car and drive off. Once I dreamed I was babysitting a friend’s baby and it rolled out the back of my car and ants ate him (she had lost a baby), completely horrifying. Crazy what our subconscious comes up with and how something that isn’t real can make you have feelings as if they are.
I am also infertile, and have had these dreams my whole life. I sometimes would find the baby in a dresser drawer.
Did you start having these dreams before or after you were diagnosed as infertile? *I’m just asking, don’t mean to offend*
@@ThabiFabulous I've been having these dreams since I was a kid
I have a reoccurring dream where I have hundreds of neglected cats I forgot about in my basement
So he asked his wife, "when are you picking up my buddy?" Then went to see a movie with friends after work? It's weird to me because I am always eager to get home to my son after only a couple of hours being away. That inquiry seems so staged.
*"When U picking up my buddy?" is what he texted. Totally a dealbreaker.
He seemed to have a lot of social activities in this one day…
Did he ask that everyday? Or just that day to cover his butt.
I'm just speculating, but what if he didn't start the day with movie plans. What if he and his friends decided to go when they were at lunch? Or maybe it was a friend from his office. I'm not familiar enough with the case to know which friends he was going with. If it was decided at lunch, I find it strange that he didn't notify his wife, but maybe that was something in their messed up dynamic. I don't think he was a good guy, but I just don't know if he intended to kill his son.