from a Woman of Mexico that we have a lot of abuse, i only have to tell "that it is legal does not mean that it is correct" we use to normalize things that are not correct
Not being vegan for one thing; unncessecarily violating the well-being of innocent sentient entities with the will to live without suffering, without consent.
Mariel Hemingway in her autobiography spoke of Allen trying to convince her to go to Europe with him. He was then visiting her and her parents in Idaho after the filming of "Manhattan". Hemingway sensed this was not a platonic invitation and being a smart teenager, she did not accept. Thanks for a great review.
@@simonboccanegra3811 So?. He was still 42 years old and it was grossly inappropriate to proposition ( understatement) a 17 year old minor practically in front of her parents. The parents did not protect her. She protected herself.
@@msw8839 I hope you aren't a fan of pretty much any rock stars, then. You must *really* loathe David Bowie, John Lennon, Jimmy Page, pretty much any male star who was big in the '60s and '70s, who had sex with teen groupies who have since gone on the record. Some of those groupies have written memoirs about their experiences. My position is that it's for Ms. Hemingway to be offended or not. She said no and that was that. She was 17, as you say, not 11 or 6. And this has f***-all to do with a charge of child molestation of a 7-year-old.
To say Mia was woody's Exgirl friend is misleading. They were together 12 years and presented themselves as common law husband and wife in public and certain circles where it was to their advantage. NY and CT have very different divorce laws. Had they moved in together their individual fortunes would have been attached in divorce proceedings. Soon Yi was brought up with Mia as her mom and woody as a surrogate dad/father figure. It was wrong for woody to have sexual relationship with her while in a relationship with her mom or even after and then to enlist her in the cover up of that affair. There is also potential that he groomed her for years for a forthcoming sexual relationship.
@Kevin Shaughnessy Sun yi was Mia’s daughter. That’s not in dispute. Woody was aware she was Mia’s daughter, and he even acknowledged she had problems in that audiobook. Instead of trying to be empathetic, and help her he uses it as an opportunity to wedge between her mother, and have his way with her. I get an impression Mia was timid with Woody, and he shamed her into signing those adaption papers. Everything I see points to a predator.
Woody was never any type of father figure. She has a father, Andre Previn. Woody never lived in the same house as she did. She actually didn't like him much, as she thought anyone who was interested in her abusive mother had to be awful.
@@fishjellyfilmreviews there is a great one,not by HBO. By the Way, Woody is Innocent - A far more compelling, researched, & factual account - not done in secret for several years with Mia & her two minions with an HBO deal, but from an unbiased person learning the information from documents, witnesses, articles & interview with relevant sources - Rick Worley ua-cam.com/video/muyaCg2dGAk/v-deo.html
I remember this when I was a kid. Never liked Woody Allen because of this. Even back then I knew “famous people” could get away with things us “regular people” never would. Idk if I’ll watch this because it might just make me angry but I appreciate the review guys!
How long was he having a relationship with Mia adopted daughter before WOODY marriage that 18yrs old adopted girl? Did Woody just wake up one day and decided today I am going to marry Mia adopted daughter. Hey adopted daughter of my GIRLFRIEND I want to marry you Today and the adopted girl said OKAY FATHER let’s get married.
I don’t know if it’s true or not what Allen did to Dylan , soon yi if he truly molested or groomed them etc . but you can’t just dismiss that the man has creepy obsession making movies about young women , teenage girls with much older men almost geriatric aged men.
@@TheLiveMusicGroup I agree. So what? Just like Mia has an obsession with much older men. She was 21 when she married 50 year old Frank Sinatra; she was 25 when she married 41 year old Andre Previn (he was still married. Mia got pregnant and broke up his marriage).
I remember you guys talking about this video of yours getting the most views so when it popped up, I was very excited to watch. Oh my god!!!! What a complicated topic with, like you say, some very personal moments here. I agree with you totally: We'll never know! This certainly seems like something to watch with friends so you can all discuss at length all the complex and unfair different topics that are brought up in this documentary. Thanks again
Bottom line is Mia said when she first met him, he had no interest in her kids or even wanted to meet them. That would have been a non-starter for me if I had kids. They even played an interview of him saying they lived in two households and he didn’t have to see them 24/7 or change diapers. Never enter a relationship hoping the other person will eventually change. He seemed weird from jump.
Look times for women were different back then. She was in her 30s and had 7 children. Guys back then would see her as used goods and not date her. Mia probably felt she had to compromise herself and take what she could get.
Question: Would a psychiatrist after all these decades actually recommend pursuing this case rather than to have the victim move on with their life. Many rape victims have never received justice against their attackers but are urged to get passed this event with counselors and support groups. In all these mess, isn't Dylan the most important.
EQUALLY ALL THE CHILDREN ARE IMPORTANT, NOT JUST HER BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC ALLEGATIONS, WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER CHILDREN. DON'T GET ME WRONG, I DO EMPATHIZE WITH DYLAN, AND WHILE I DO KNOW IT MUST BE HORRIBLE TO RELIVE TIME AND TIME AGAIN WHAT SHE WENT THROUGH, I KNOW SHE IS NOT ALONE AND FOR YEARS HAS RECEIVED THE HELP THAT SHES NEEDED TO RISE FROM THAT STRUGGLE & WILL CONTINUE TO GET HELP. CAN YOU IMAGINE THE SILENT STRUGGLES OF THE OTHER CHILDREN WHO HAVEN'T BEEN PUBLICLY SUPPORTED.
@@annabellezuniga3422 thank you, the media just focuses on the one adopted daughter to mia and Woody, and their one biological child Ronana and the hell with Soon Yi, Moses and the others, adopting 11 children when your then boyfriend tells you he doesn't eat to have cchildren or antything to duo with them, so you go out and adopt more and more, and when they don't turn out or say the correct things, you abuse them and beat them and brainwash them into thinking your way. DYLAN IS LYING, AND ronana was only 3 years old he cant remember or saw what happened at age 3 at all only Moses and the other children who lived in that house which were older the Dylan and Roanan.
@@annabellezuniga3422 Doesn't it bother you that the only alleged abuse victim Dylan cares about is Dylan? Based on all of the publicly record and available evidence, I do not believe that this event of abuse happened and that she has false memories drummed into her by Mia. But, even if the sexual abuse did happen, why does Dylan feel the need to relive it over and over and not move on. She has become a professional victim and because she has absolutely no interest in helping other victims, including her siblings Moses, Soon Yi and the other non-white adoptees, she is no longer a sympathetic figure. She is a tragic one. And shame on Mia for keeping it alive.
@@gheller2261 it doesn't bother me honestly, i just find it really telling of what people in their circle are capable of. I find it revealing how things are twisted and turned for the public audiences and how that whole family expertly exercises those abilities.
Woody Allen gave his story of events quite heavily in 1992 and in several interviews, Mia never did. I believe Dylan and have never watched a Allen movie since
You can pay a Psychologist to say whatever you want. The way it works is that the Court orders a Psychologist, and the whatever side wants to dispute that report hires another Psychologist that comes up with the facts favorable to that side. If you have enough money you can hire an infinite amount of psychologists.
No movie, script, or piece of art is worth the innocence of a child. Sorry. When you are abused, raped, or assaulted it sticks with you forever. It changes the person you were or who you would have been. I lived with mine for over twenty years and at 40 years old I’m still dealing with the affects. That pain you see in Dylan is the pain of knowing what happened to you but having other people determine what that pain is worth. Anyone who can still look at Woody Allen and be ok should question why. How much is your child’s innocence worth? What if this was your child, how would you feel if a movie was worth the dismissal of your child’s pain? I don’t care how fantastic Woody Allen’s movies are, he is a predator. Also, I don’t think Dylan thought all those celebrities were all speaking out specifically just for her or this was all for her, I think she just was grateful to FINALLY be seen! You don’t understand the amount of extra pain that comes with suffering silently and the shame and fear that comes with not being believed. Our society still gets it so wrong when it comes to victims.
It's actually not much of a mess. Everything is quite straight forward. It's the Farrow camp that makes it a mess by keeping it alive and creating a false narrative that favors her.
@@buzzcrushtrendkill You do not appear to understand the word "groom" which is used by people far too often without any context, and it provides an easy way to arrive at an opinion without doing the research to learn what actually occurred. What is it that he is supposed to be accountable for? By all accounts, theirs is a happy marriage that produced two happy kids. Who are we to judge that? Yes, I get it, engaging in a relationship with your former lover's daughter is not something that most people would approve of (as if their approval is at all necessary). But it is neither illegal nor even immoral; it's just unusual and even weird. People do not need to be "accountable" for doing something unusual or weird. And groomers almost never marry their victims; they move on to the next one. Contrary to what some would argue because they lack knowledge of the facts, Woody Allen was never a parent or father figure to Soon Yi. He had almost nothing to do with her until she was around 19 when Mia asked him to spend time with her and get to know her. Their physical relationship did not happen until she was at least 20 years old. So, when did this supposed "grooming" happen? Finally, if you are somehow referencing the alleged sexual abuse of Dylan Farrow when talking accountability, the overwhelming evidence that is publicly available (and it is a lot) points to the likelihood that the alleged event of sexual abuse never happened. The evidence does show that Mia was and still is her abuser (and an abuser of her other non-white kids), not Woody Allen.
@@buzzcrushtrendkill You seem to have some synapses missing. Your sarcasm is silly and trite. Very easy to say "would you feel the same if it were your daughter." That's a freaking cop out and an easy way to deflect that you do not know the facts. The fact is, whether or not I think it was a good idea for these two to become involved, Soon Yi was "of age" when the physical relationship began (20 or 21) and there was nothing illegal about it. As for morality, I am not into judging people that way and I will deal with my own personal life and children as I deem appropriate, thank you very much. You throw out pedophilia and obviously do not know what that means. Not sure if you are relating it to Soon Yi, which would be silly because she was of age, or Dylan. In any event, pedophilia is a disorder that is compulsive and demands repetition, and where the perpetrator's sexual attraction is exclusive to pre-pubescent children. We know about many of Woody Allen's adult relationships, including with his current wife, and other than the single alleged event of abuse at the Farrow farmhouse, not a single other allegation of abuse has been made against him in his 86-years on this earth (and none involving his two adopted daughters, who reportedly adore him). If he is a pedophile, he is not a very good one. Woody Allen is not a pedophile. Regarding Dylan, it is well documented that this alleged event of abuse, if it happened, happened once (which makes the allegation even more incredible). This does not fit the profile at all. Moreover, Dylan was alone with Woody Allen many times before the day of the alleged abuse, which purportedly occurred in the Farrow house under the watchful eyes of at least 10 other people (during a custody battle). Yet, this so-called pedophile never once abused her before that? Does that make sense? And, although a different matter, it is noteworthy that there has never been a single allegation of sexual impropriety or harassment from any woman who ever worked with him even though the majority of his staff for 40+ years have been women. Interesting how you mention his looks because that's a big part of all of this and it screams of anti-semitism and racism -- a small, Jewish man who has stereotypically Jewish features (how could anyone find HIM attractive) with a young, plain Asian woman whose looks many have been unkind about. If this had been George Clooney and a 20-year old Japanese Vogue model, nobody would have thought twice about the relationship. Dian Cannon and Cary Grant; Bogie and Bacall; Elvis and Priscilla; Seline Dion and her husband. Few batted an eye because they were glamorous, usually pretty people. When the Friends character Monica was with Tom Selleck, nobody screamed PEDOPHILE!! or even that it was inappropriate. Oh, and fact is, many women have said that they find Woody Allen sexy because he is smart and funny, and they like Jewish looking men. They are out there. Even though you are likely dug in, here is a bunch of stuff to read and watch. Time for you to learn something because the HBO series was a Farrow sponsored, hagiographic, fact deficient hit job: mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05/a-son-speaks-out-by-moses-farrow.html ua-cam.com/video/muyaCg2dGAk/v-deo.html www.thedailybeast.com/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2016/05/30/hard-questions-for-ronan-farrow-an-open-letter/ ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2019/04/08/the-truth-about-woody-allen-part-i/ ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2019/04/08/the-truth-about-woody-allen-part-ii/ ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2020/07/20/the-rise-and-fail-of-ronan-farrow/ ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2021/02/28/farrow-v-farrow-the-case-of-the-magical-disappearing-electric-toy-train/ ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2021/03/07/the-interview-that-never-happened/ levine2001.medium.com/the-woody-allen-controversy-reader-why-maureen-orths-10-undeniable-facts-about-the-woody-allen-5f26791c15a0 levine2001.medium.com/the-woody-allen-controversy-reader-did-dory-previns-song-lyrics-influence-mia-farrow-in-accusing-6cb1f83038fe levine2001.medium.com/in-her-attempts-to-brand-woody-allen-a-child-molester-mia-farrow-made-a-videotape-of-her-f6d4c555c582 www.woodyallenmoblynching.com quillette.com/2021/03/28/allen-v-farrow-intellectually-dishonest-propaganda-meets-emotional-blackmail/ forward.com/opinion/395553/woody-allens-innocence-should-be-a-feminist-cause/ www.theguardian.com/film/2021/mar/03/allen-v-farrow-woody-allen-mia-farrow-documentary-is-pure-pr-why-else-would-it-omit-so-much bookandfilmglobe.com/film/allen-v-farrow-documentary-review/ moviecitynews.com/2021/02/review-allen-v-farrow/ ua-cam.com/video/8JomEP29Uhg/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/uVsDixMvvOQ/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/zozl9K9cbmc/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/qk7QSBEbZsc/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/k2ZcAoOqOeU/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/7YhdbyvLxn0/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/WDTwP4bUD4g/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/LJedjqHckTU/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/hOFW9xe7ZzM/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/RkLZe7MPb0g/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/Gzc6DOP41BI/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/users/resultssearch_query=elizabeth+loftus+how+reliable+is+your+memory unherd.com/2021/02/what-woody-allens-accusers-wont-tell-you/ www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/woody-allen-is-not-a-child-molester/
@@buzzcrushtrendkill In addition to the other words that you do not know the meaning of, you do not know the meaning of the word objective. You're nothing more than a small minded dolt holding his thumbs in his ears and shouting "la la la I'm not listening" because you are faced with the possibility, indeed likelihood, that what you believe is wrong. I will waste no more time on you.
Mia Farrow and Woody Allen have one thing in common. They don't care about the "mores" of society. But they are using society as a judge to a way of life most of us cannot identify with or understand.
The thing that always bugged me was that the girl lost one set of parents and Woody was so focused on his own needs that he didn’t consider what it would be like for her to lose a potential second set. And yes, I single him out because of course a young woman who has been separated from her biological father is going to develop a fat infatuation with an older man that shows her attention and affection. Someone who has examined the human condition in the depth that he has should be well aware of that. In other words, no matter how it went down, Woody took her away from the only real mother she had.
@@kellyalves756 I'm not doubting Dylan's account, but my God what an ANNOYING off putting, self absorbed victim. Cashing in her abuse for likes, views and followers....What a gross society we've become.
i'm pretty sure dylan is only doing this documentary as a PR thing to sell her novel "Hush" i mean you have to know that she's making bank off of people that actually were victims of sexual abuse and honestly i think she and Mia are the antichrist... being sexually abused is one thing but there's a special place in hell for people that accuse men of sexual assault to vindictively ruin their lives and then try to profit off of these false allegations....
I'm only on episode 1, but this documentary doesn't paint Mia in a good light at all. She deliberately ignored red flags with Woody Allen's interactions with Dylan. Mia & Woody are both weird AF. Such dysfunction, and to raise kids in that environment.
2 of her children have taken their own lives. And other children have spoken out about being abused by her. Mia was a terrible person, she got her adopted children to cook, clean and look after her younger children.
After spending *years* curating my very own Criterion Collection, hunting everywhere for gems, sending away for interesting pieces, I scrapped the project entirely when I found out they added "Armageddon"!! HORRIBLE!!
I personally still want to watch. To me, a documentary doesn't always serve the same function as something you'd see on National Geographic. These topics are often focused on one side. Again, I haven't watched the it, but as an adult, if I'm asked to tell the same story more than 10 times, inconsistency begins at maybe 7 and by 15, I'm not even sure if the story would appear to "add up" at all. Putting it all out there for a 4-part documentary is open to film criticism and I'm glad you guys sat down and discussed it with us. Love you guys and keep making content!
I watched a woody Allen movie and when I looked up the information about him I found out about this. I believed her. She was consistent. And he ran off with her sister.
she was not consistent. she consistently repeated mia's lies and brainwashing is all. how pathetic you can't manage to learn a single actual fact. this show is not actual fact. how pathetic.
How y’all see all four... I’m really astonished as to why this is so unbelievable...like really he married her daughter why are we ignoring that? He’s a director I could see him becoming a character from a script he once wrote just to get that authentic feel of a predator. So the audience get that raw feeling of a character
It’s too bad our society has historically made it very difficult for victims to come forward and feel supported. I believe this is one of the biggest reasons we’re seeing so much hashed out in the ‘court of public opinion’. Also, I don’t think that’s such a bad thing, as it is sparking some important conversation. I was raised on Woody Allen, and loved him for years. In 1992 when the allegations came out re: Dylan my gut told me it was true. My gut was informed by my intake of his interviews, his books, and his film. I allowed the media blitz by Allen’s PR army to lull me back into a mild state of cognitive dissonance. I don’t want it to be true, but I believe Dylan. I think Woody is a very slick wolf in self deprecating sheep’s clothing. His is probably the most convincing mask I’ve seen on a child predator, and I’ve seen a mask or three. Thanks for the video!
@@jennifermariejoyce But I was clearly referring to how your gut informs your views on WA, etc, such as "When the allegations came out re: Dylan my gut told me it was true. My gut was informed by...." I'm surprised that such a well informed person misunderstood this. Watch the linked documentary. Then you can claim to be well informed, though judging my some of your comments I suspect you're unable/unwilling to look at this objectively. Cheers!
@@MARKCC1330 The allegations became public in 1992. I didn’t want to believe it, and at that time (in 1992) we didn’t have the luxury of the internet. This is why I was going by my gut instinct. Many years have passed since then, and I have gathered plenty of facts since then. It’s possible to have a gut instinct, and gather facts. My initial confirmation bias was to find him innocent. As time has passed, and I’ve gained more knowledge (mostly through public records), and informing myself about child sex abuse, how it’s treated, and statistics on reporting, indictment, conviction, etc. my opinion has become more open to the idea that Dylan is telling the truth. I don’t claim to know for sure, and no one else can either, unless they were there. So there you go, I’m good on info. Thanks.
@@jennifermariejoyce My reply seems to have disappeared. Hmmm. Anyway, I recommend watching the documentary I linked for you. Then you can rightly claim to be good on info. Finally, I understand that injustices happen where child abuse is concerned but that doesn't make Allen guilty. The facts tell us that it's highly unlikely that he is. All the best.
You can tell how powerful allen is- how come no one is discussing this on news media - he is definitely guilty, a seven year old can’t make up stories not unless it was done to her...
Mia could make up the story and she did, and she programmed it into her seven-year-old daughter. She made her repeat it until it was a false memory, and there it stays. The abuse came from Mia.
I remember a Nightline segment on this case. Allen asserts that during this case Farrow calls Allen about her appearing in his film Manhattan Murder Mysteries. He claims that she still assumed she was still cast in the movie.! Its such a twisted salacious tale though.
Try reading Robert Evans book on his producing Rosemary's Baby, and how she agreed to extend her time in shooting the film as needed, though she had previously agreed with Frank Sinatra, her new husband, that she would be available to work at an earlier time so she could proceed with her role in a film he was scheduled to film. This was the straw that broke the camels back for Frank, who then told Mia that it (the new marriage) was over, and he walked out on her. During this push and pull period, Evans had stroked her ego so profusely in promises that she was sure to obtain an Oscar for her performance, after he had viewed the early rushes of her work on the film up to that point. She was then faced with being pulled from two sides. The director, Roman Polanski wanted her for more shooting, though she was legally (by contract) permitted to end her participation and proceed to her new film with Sinatra. Evans claims that her ego was so inflated by his raving over her performance that she re wrote and "signed-on" to the Rosemary's Baby contract, and snubbed Frank, and his own production of a Tony Rome detective film, in which he also starred (but no longer with Mia).. It may be productive also to take a look at her earlier childhood where she was sexually abused by her own father, John Farrow, then a very famous and successful Hollywood director. What he had been equally famous for (within the Hollywood studio circle ) was his continuous and widely recognized philandering with young film beauties, even while he was married to one of its most beautiful and successful lovelies, Maureen O'Sullivan (Jane, in the Weissmuller Tarzan movies), who "played" Mia's mother. That very strained Hollywood marital relationship was given an autobiographic (around Mia's biography) artistic treatment in Woody's very successful "Hannah, and Her Sisters", where Maureen O' Sullivan "played" the mother of Hannah (performed by Mia), and was married to just such a philandering Hollywood entertainer, played by Lloyd Nolan. Three of Hannah's (Mia's own adopted) children characters were "played" by Soon Yi Previn, Daisy Previn, and Moses Farrow. Fletcher Previn was also cast as one of the "Thanksgiving Dinner guests" in the film but not identified as one of Hannah's (Mia's role) children. One of the film's subplots in the film dealt with this ongoing battle between the historically unfaithful husband (Hannah's, and presumably Mia's Dad, John Farrow), with his beautiful and faithful wife (the Maureen O'Sullivan role). No treatment is given in the film to Mia's actual brother who is now in prison for sexually grooming, and then raping two young boys. Nor of her (Mia's) uncle who also went to prison for sexual abuse of young children. A rather sordid biography in all respects, and one worthy of minimal investigation prior to casting stories at those people accused of wrongdoing by that very same highly questionable human "character" from life.
Moses Farrow did come forward with terrible stories about Mia's abuse. It's a sad story all around, but if we should always believe the victim, why is his story not being considered by the Woody haters? ua-cam.com/video/HBD30WF5t7k/v-deo.html
@@MsRoxanne45 So it is a victim contest: using "psychology" to explain away one victim's claim as alienation (the child turns on the victim to save the accused parent) - doing away with all the instances of abuse reported by the "alienated" child. Convenient but unconvincing. It is hard, isn't it, to just admit that things might be a tad more complicated ?
Yeah, that's not what's happening here. But nice try though. Read the Robert Weide pieces, those written by Justin Levine (who uncovers the Maureen Orth writings as complete nonsense), watch the UA-cam documentary "By The Way, Woody Allen Is Innocent." Any reasonable person willing to take in those and review court transcripts should conclude that the abuse of Dylan did not happen. And people's being icked out by Soon Yi doesn't change that.
All her other children deny this and his story changed from just a few years ago and his whole childhood. Meanwhile Dylan and several others witnessed Woodys unusually and molesting behavior first hand.
@@JDMimeTHEFIRST I read his testimony from his blog, then i saw his recent tributes to his two siblings that committed suicide, and an intervention about his involvement for adopted kids who are victims of abuse: his story has NOT changed.
Are Moses and Sun-Yi included in this documentary? They've been very public about Mia's physical and mental abuse towards her adopted children, and SPECIFICALLY Mia's treatment of her adopted children of color verses her birth children -- how they were abused and treated as servants, compared to her treatment of Ronan and Dylan. Just weird stuff all around. But it seems the voices of Farrow's adopted children of color have been left out completely from this documentary.
Moses is hedging his bets. As the only child that is defending his adopted father, he stands to inherit quite a bit of money one day. He’ll recant, again after pay day. As far as Mia’s children committing suicide, perhaps they were silent victims of Woody also, who saw the injustice that was done to their family and took their own lives. Woody Allen is a Narcissist, just like R. Kelly. They both use their art to lull us into acceptance of their anti social behavior. White privilege and $$ helped Woody avoid jail. His films brought millions of dollars into NYC. An Ultra Narcissist triangulates people and systems. I wonder how his adopted daughters with SunYi are getting on? #IBelieveDylan
@@IyaPatsyOriginalEgunlady You might as well have just said I Believe Dylan even if God revealed himself to me and told me the sexual abuse never happened. All because the Woody-Soon Yi relationship icks you out.
If a prosecutor really believed that they had probable cause would they not be obliged to pursue criminal charges? In this case, the prosecutor was criticised for his comments (a state disciplinary panel called his comments "inappropriate, unsolicited and potentially prejudicial"). Although the statute of limitations for a criminal case may have passed, I believe that a civil case could still be pursued.
In many cases of sexual abuse the court could still have enough evidence but they can choose not to bring charges if they believe it will cause the child more harm it is not right but the court does it when I was a child I went through something similar and while they proved assault but they thought going through a court battle would cause more harm
Moses Farrow, has publicly said that 3 of the adopted children have died. Two took their own lives and the 3rd did asked not to be resuscitated. She adopted children with a lot of medical, psychological issues and that may be a reason for the deaths. But 3 dead adoptees in one household?
I find both Mia and Woody are freakin weird. I really think the abuse made Soon Yi sees Woody as an escape from Mia, similar situations that occurred to her other adopted daughters resulted in them finding escape in drugs or crime while Woody was an outsider that took advantage of it.
@@pointsbeingmade7996 I believe MJ is 100% innocent but the HBO movie just had two people telling their side of a story that has changed several times.
@@TaitsTake Yeah and the difference to this one being? Woody innocent and Mia behind the HBO docu to keep playing the victim? Seems like the similarities are there. I watched neverland for the 2nd time yesterday and yesterday I was starting to think MJ may be guilty after all. Kind of shows what 4 hours of the same narrative makes you believe😂
convincing people that someone they like is a sexual predator is a process. It wont be an overnight thing. For all those defending woody, your going through a tough process and when you get to the other end, your in suprise for a feeling of just goodness when you align yourself with reality.
@@vanitysmirror You think Woody is guilty even though multiple agencies cleared Allen saying no molestation took place. Is that what you mean by cognitive dissonance?
Very simple. Read the pieces by Robert Weide, watch the two and a half hour documentary created by Rick Worley available on UA-cam and Justin Levine's debunking of Maureen Orth's hit pieces and then come to a conclusion. It will likely be different than if you just watch the HBO series or rely on uninformed commenters.
Excellent, and lucid review, I don't think I can remember when Joseph, was so animated in his thoughts and also leading much of the conversation, along.
i haven't watched this documentary but I remember reading about how he denied having ever gone in the attic only for his DNA to be found and me thinking, why lie about going into a room, it hard to trust anything he has to say after that scientifically proven lie.
@Infinite Jeff at the time there was no conflicting testimonies. Only woody Allen gave a contradictory story. Moses gave testimony later that contradicts all facts. It contradicted woody Allen at the custody hearing, it contradicted other eye witness testimony that was given to the police, farrow, and the court, and it contradicted the police. So there really isn’t a lot of contradictory evidence or testimony. Pretty much all testimony and evidence point to Allen having been up there. No you may have unreasonable doubt. I can’t account for that, but we need a plausible place for him To have been.
@Infinite Jeff who said he never left the room? I never heard that. The baby sitter said “I saw him in the room with his head in her lap. I was horrified and left.” Or soemthing very similar. They didn’t know where he went. That’s not saying “I know he was in the room the whole time.”
Oh lawd not this mess again! I lived through the trial and was completely grossed out. I guess people will get constantly bombarded by rehashings of Woody, O.J., Michael and Jonbenet, for the rest of time. Great review fellas! Glad the subscriptions are skyrocketing! Hugs from a cold East Coast! ❤️
I think it’s sad that both the Farrow and the Allen sides have chosen to involve the general public in their family and legal issues. Hopefully this documentary is the last word on their family battles.
I just wanna know what world some of you live in where a man can marry his girlfriends daughter hes been around grooming since she was a teenager and somehow thats just fine. Like the excuses I see some of you making for him doing that are absolutely CRAZY!
Also a lot of people bring up Moses’ abuse accusations but I mean in reality both can be true in fact Mia not being a great mom and some what abusive leans itself to y she didn’t handle the abuse
Boy oh boy. For victims, Mia, Dylan, and Ronin are milking this for their own financial benefit. If they feel so strongly that Woody did this to Dylan, then why don't they take this back to court. Connecticut law allows them to do so. There are witnesses that have stated at the time, that this never happened. Both the court and social services stated that there was no evidence of sexual abuse towards Dylan. When Dylan was interviewed by the court. They stated that she sounded like she was coached. Also, if they feel so strongly that Woody did this and is getting away with it. Why don't they simply take it to court again. Connecticut law allows themto do so. So why don't they?
@@chloegardner6336 Yes please do some research. I suggest you take a look at an articular called, "A son speaks out," by Moses Farrow. He was 14 when this,"occured," and was an eyewitness. Also, check out a youtube video called, "By the way, Woody Allen is innocent." It's over two and half hours long. So watch it in segments. Please let us know your thoughts.
They don’t sue him because Dylan is under Mia's thumb and Mia knows that they have no case. Also, go to trial and you have the risk of losing and of public embarrassment. Try it in the media and she has complete control over the narrative.
Thank you for this thought-provoking review. Three key points stood out: how media seeks to shape our opinions, the power dynamics between the adults specifically as it relates to Allen's power, and protecting youth in communities like mine. I know what I would do and believe but hearing men discuss these complexities broadened my perspective. Much to reflect on-thank you.
I live in Connecticut and have no problem confirming that yale new heaven is horrible, I had a baby there and I suffer from PTSD due to those people, don't want to get into the details and the details are not similar to this case anyway but they are horrible.
Neither Mia Farrow or Woody Allen had any business being around children. I went into this documentary sympathizing with Mia and wanted to know why no one believed her daughter. Sadly, she ended up being one of those reasons. Who the F hears from their child that they have been abused and does not intend to report the abuser? Who calls the abuser to warn them? Who witnesses inappropriate behavior and does not get the authorities involved? Who finds disturbing pictures of their other child and does not call the police immediately? Who gets mad at that child and under-reacts to the abuser? Who still lives is the creepy house where the worst incident of abuse occured? Who... Mia Farrow. I actually came away from this disliking her and feeling really bad for Dylan and the other children.
Not only that, but after she made the allegations she fully intended to work with Woody on his next film, Manhattan Murder Mystery, and even went so far as to call up his office to enquire when and where she should go for the rehearsals!
@@shilohscott There's definitely something very odd about the whole situation. Her lawyer told Woody that she would drop the allegations for a large settlement, which has always struck me as immoral. Likewise, at one point she also said that she thought Woody may be a homosexual and wanted to molest Ronan, but despite that she wrote an affidavit stating that Woody was a loving and wonderful parent when he applied for adoption of Dylan and Moses.
I support anyone who must defend themselves of accusations of committing a crime where there is a lack of any physical evidence. Our prisons are filled with innocent people who are not a fortunate as Woody Allen. I find it hopeful that, even after watching a 4 part, very one-sided documentary, you still questioned whether the alleged crime was committed. To convict someone, or even reach a private conclusion of their guilt, there must be corroborating evidence or a proven pattern of behavior. We cannot just "believe the victim" or we risk creating two. Thanks for the review.
Really great job! It's very very creepy that he started an affair & married mia farrow adopted daughter bc he knew her as a little girl. Also do people really think that mia is some hypnotist that she brain washed both her adult kids that made up these memories. Not just Dylan but ronin remembers very inappropriate behavior? Im being serious. I also definitely believe woody is not Ronins dad. I don't know if its sinatra or not but woody looks like he has very strong facial genetics. I know a child could look like one parent completely but ud see something in ronin. Also I think woody maybe shooting blanks bc he adopted kids with soon yi as well. Also could u guys please review the " framing britney spears " doc. Its heartbreaking & makes u very upset & even angry.
@@ke6264 yes in my opinion he is Frank's son. Their is a resemblance not only to mia but Frank as well. Plus I read somewhere that the sinatra family would babysit ronin & had a rekationship. Kinda odd since she & Frank divorced many years before. He is also Mia's only biological child. Almost like if she was gonna have one blood child it was going to be with Frank who I think she still was in love with.
As a psychologist, it is very common for parents to emotionally manipulate their children into believing anything. Don’t forget, Mia Farrow has also been accused of abuse by her adopted children. One committed suicide. He was never found legally guilty, and in my mind is innocent. A creep,but not a child molester
Ronan is not Woods son!!. Put a picture of Frank & Ronan together and its undeniable. Mia was allegedly sleeping with both men around the same time. Ronan is definatley Frank's son. A DNA test should be done. At least for Ronans sake.
It's so many compromising things here from the adults, and the children always suffer as a result. It's just disheartening to know the children so harshly have to deal with the faults of the adults. It's just so unfair.
thank you, i really love how people have taken this film documentary that was written by and narrated by close friends of Mia and Ronana and Dylan, and yet from what i understand no one has talked to Moses who was the teenage son at the home at the time of this, while dylan was 7 and Ronana cant say crap cause he was only 2 or 3 when it happened or didn't happen. and moses and Soon Yi are far more reliable than a 7 year old and a then 2or 3 year old baby.
Moses, Soon Yi and the three young sons and daughters that died BECAUSE OF Mia bad parenting... Well, this "lady" has no credibility for me as she has been a neglected mother all her life adopting children. Not only white lifes matter.
@@xXxFatiishxXx And that is what it very much sounds like. They both aren't all that good. Wish the prosecutor guy let Dylan go thru with it then this all would have been over with. I thought even back then they had the situation set up for children where you can talk in a room on video and some other ways for the child to speak comfortably.
@@marlak4203, Mia drilled it into Dylan & the older kids. She taped Dylan continuously & the experts in the field of all types of child abuse, saw right thru Mia's charade. Hence why no criminal charges were ever issued against Woody in either of 2 states, NY or Connecticut.
I've only been able to find two parts and from what I understand they lived in New York and apartments across Central Park from each other and then she eventually bought a home in Connecticut but the whole relationship was weird
1. I just read your t-shirt! Dude, a great homage to Mia and maybe the bigger picture behind her complex issues with Woody(!) and the legal system. 2. I only saw E1 tonight. It’s clear from the home videos and observations that W. was grooming Dylan at some early point. I know firsthand what it’s like to be in denial about a partner’s behavior - it’s scary for a mother. 3. You men would do well to pay closer attention to ALL the objective evidence without preconceived opinions about the individuals involved. I’m glad Mia took so many home videos (watch W’s hands on Dylan!! Ick. ). NOT OKAY!!! 4. Finally - as disturbing as this kind of documentary is - I have to believe that viewers can learn from others’ experiences if they have an open mind. The most important lesson is that everyone of us needs to be more aware and to protect our most innocent and vulnerable people: CHILDREN.
So true. As a women who was abused when I was around eight, I can see my own predator's touches and looks in so many of Allen's with poor Dylan. My heart goes out to her. She deserves to be heard.
I think you should try to follow-up on the 'Train set' allegations by Robert Weide. If it can be proved that there was no trainset, that Moses Farrow was right/the filmmakers have concocted the 'diagram', then that's a huge reason both to distrust this documentary, and poses serious questions for the Farrows.
So selfish of woody to come between a mother and daughter. Mother and daughter now don't talk to each other. Soon yi has had no parents in her life since she was 20.
He did not come between the two of them Mia abused son yi and she wanted out of that house as fast as possible, and the fact that Soon Yi and Woody have been together for 30 soemthingyears has two adopted daughters who don't have any problems, and you rarely see or hear from them unlike Mia and dYLAN AND ronana who's a complete ass hole. Soon Yi hated her mother for her abuse.
I think they had his “supporters” in the doc because they wanted to make sure this isn’t a smear campaign. That they acknowledge and want to show how even tho they have lived with this trauma he has inflicted... they’ve all had to live knowing these people and many other STILL supported him throughout.
@@TheScreamingMime moses just started saying that after woody came back into his life. He consistently told people a diffenrt story his entire life up until then. No other child can back up what he said and there are probable lies in his story as well.
@@conradkorbol Nope, you cannot just say "there are probably lies in his story" without evidence. If you read his primary piece on the matter and other interviews, which provide many, many details, you would know that he was absolutely frightened of his mother. She groomed all of her kids to hate Woody Allen and to fear the consequences if they did not hold the line. He did not "consistently tell people a different story." You pulled that out of your ass. But even if he did, what I say above is the reason. And the "no other child can back up what he said" is nonsense. Soon Yi has spoken about his mother's abuse of her and of the other non-whit kids, and there are 3 dead adoptive children who are no longer here to tell us what went on in their home. Regarding the day in question, Moses was the only child there old enough to remember and a lot of his account was already corroborated by the nannies. Much as he pretends to have memories, Ronan Farrow was 4 years old at the time, although over the years he has added years to his age at the time in an effort to sound credible. HE is the one who is a liar. Get the facts before coming to conclusions, but don't just make them up.
@@gmh471 I didn’t pull that one out of my ass watch the documentary on hbo. They talk about his fucking court testimony. When you check the police report guess who has the story that is still consistent with it and was consistent the whole way through? The girl is It wasn’t Moses. His original story is consistent with it but not his new one. So I didn’t pull it out my ass nice try. All the kids reported the life being awesome including Moses. Then woody allen offers the kids money for changing their stories and guess whose story changes? Soon Yi was literally molested. Mia admits to hitting soon yi once and no one else reports abuse. Moses didn’t either until money got involved. So much written material that contradicts what Moses is saying. Now we know for a fact Woody likes teenage girls and it’s pretty obvious he was with soon yi when she was underage and that he manipulated her pretty throughly. Three dead kids doesn’t really prove anything. Kids have problems and she adopted kids with disabilities and hardships already. So the fact that the kids with health problems had health problems shouldn’t surprise anyone. Anyways, it’s pretty obvious Moses sold out
I never had ANYTHING TO DO with HBO since "Leaving Neverland" aired and no I haven't watched the documentary and NEVER WILL but anyway? this is INTERESTING and yes Mia's adopted son Moses claims that Mia was the 1 that was ABUSIVE not Woody so this is confusing, I mean 1 of her bio kids claim that Woody was abusive while 1 of the ADOPTIVE kids claims that it was Mia who was abusive!
@@whatadollslife I cut Oprah off my viewing list too over it, in fact I haven't watched The OWN channel, the Oxygen channel, Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz in 2 years just because of it, my point was Michael's been gone for over a DECADE and yes Robson testified in his trial that NOTHING HAPPENED and now that he SPENT all of his money from "The Wade Robson Project" and "You Got Served"? he needs a NEW SOURCE so I haven't had anything to with Oprah and anything she does in 2 years!
I didn't have a problem with Mia Farrow until she put it out that the son she said was Woody's is actually Frank Sinatra's son. Sinatra's daughter even called him her little brother. You don't lie about who the father is. My father's mother did that to him and messed him up for life.
According to Nancy Sinatra, if that's the daughter you're referring to, she never for a second thought Ronan was her father's child. In fact she was annoyed at Mia for saying that, and says it was a joke on Mia's part. A bad joke but a joke.
Omg, I saw a trailer for this doc-series today & I forgot that another child then was involved in the hot mess. I knew something about Woody’s current wife/step-daughter situation and the writer/brother of Dylan, Ronan Farrow’s story with Mr. Allen. Thanx for early review. I don’t have HBO, so I’m not gonna see this. I hope I can rent it & see it later👍🏼👍🏼📼📰
I remember as a teen (who at that point had had several step fathers myself) being completely grossed out by Allans relationship with his step daughter. And I was pretty sure, that must have been some serious grooming going on. But I didn't realize that there was other allegations within the family. - Well, other than the usual dysfunctional fighting of a really ugly divorce.
@@hildajensen6263 SOON YI was not his step daughter. he was never married to Mia. In fact, she is not even Mia's biological daughter. This is something that many people cannot get straight.
And I wonder why people can't get into their heads that a marriage doesn't mean a lot in that situation. And that Soon Yi was adopted definitely doesn't mean a thing. By being Mia's boyfriend and the father of Soon Yi's younger siblings, Woody Allen had access to her and been an authority figure in her life, since she was 8 years old. For all intent and propose, he was a stepfather.
@@hildajensen6263 I have corrected your assertion that Woody was her step father and you refuse to acknowledge your error. Both woody and soon yi have stated that there was never a father-step daughter relationship. He was not really an authority figure as you put it. He and Mia never shared a home. Soon yi's adoptive father is/was Andre Previn.
@@jv-ep2tc Of course they will say that. They know that their relationship was / is socially unacceptable. So they are putting a positive spin on it. Still don't change the fact that it's a nasty thing to start a relationship with your girlfriends underaged and very inexpirenced daughter. Besides, everyone I know and have ever spoken to about such things, have called any person in the family position, that Allen was in regarding Soon Yi, a step parent.
Love your channel, first video and already subscribed! I think both Mia and Woody are weird period. How she didn't care if he was part of the life of the children and how he said he didn't mind fathering a child and not being involved then marrying someone who you usually see as a step child. They are just both weird and I don't know. Both sides sound credible. She could've coached her and he could've abused her. They both aren't farfetched ugh
@E Boston I said dating and married. As in dating, married, divorced etc as in multiple situations. The fact you were around a woman when she was growing up and saw her develop and go through puberty etc then decide you want to be with her after she is of legal age is just crazy. He was dating her MOTHER and they spent intimate times together while she was still living in the home
Dylan Farrow has until her 48th birthday to pursue a civil case against Woody Allen. This will (of course) subject her claims to legal scrutiny and charges of perjury if she makes false statements. I do not think she will EVER file a case. Draw your own conclusions from that.
There were explicit pictures taken by Woody of Soon-yi found by Mia. Woody was caught with his head in Dylan's lap and she was found to not be wearing underwear later that day. These are undisputed facts. On the other hand Mia is overbearing with that video camera. Recording Dylan when she broke up with her boyfriend. That struck me as very uncomfortable. That is not normal parental behavior. There was some weird shit going on there.
Holy shit. If you make a kid tell the same damn story 13 times then on course it’s gonna sound rehearsed by round 13. Because you’ve been rehearsing her!
yah this is a tough one. I dont know either to side with the people accusing woody allen of molesting children or the guy who married his daughter. Real tough.
@@LaniAnne402 I believe her, too. I just can’t believe whoever it was that would have the nerve to repeatedly interrogate a kid and then go “ I don’t know, it sounds rehearsed.”
I'm not doubting Dylan's account, but my God what an ANNOYING off putting, self absorbed victim. Cashing in her abuse for likes, views and followers....What a gross society we've become.
@@TheOpenSociety777 It still doesn’t negate the status that they were once victims, and of course, it is not an excuse. We have such a trouble and just talking about normal sexuality that we are completely handicapped in the ability to understand sexual abuse. Woody Allen was sexually inappropriate and should be called out for it, not matter how great as comedian/writer/director he is.
@@cremetangerine82 The age of consent should NOT be lowered to 12 yrs as you have advocated for. (See I can also attribute things to you that you've never said, then remark on this straw man) I'm not doubting Dylan's account, but my God what an ANNOYING off putting, self absorbed victim. Cashing in her abuse for likes, views and followers....What a gross society we've become.
@@TheOpenSociety777 I am *not* advocating for the age of consent to be lowered to 12 years old, it needs to stay at 18 years old. I am *NOT* an apologist for sexual abusers, so don’t get that twisted. All I am saying is it’s completely normal to have someone who is very unlikable but could have been abused at some point.
I just watched the first episode. And I think you did a great review. I am not positive but I probably will watch the other episodes. Everyone is going to have their own opinion but I’m inclined to believe the seven-year-old girl over Woody Allen. She would have no reason to lie but he would because if the charges are true And A jury convicted him he would lose his freedom and his career. Dylan kept saying that she thought the situation was just the way daughters and fathers were as she didn’t really have anything to compare it with and that is the problem with young children experiencing abuse they don’t know the word rape or sex or concepts of sexual abuse so they’re very limited in the words they have to use to explain it and And the grownups who abuse them - especially if they or their parents - have absolute power over the children’ so The kids really don’t have a chance to voice their truth in a way most adults can understand, not at age 7. it just seems very real to me that this happened to her. I myself am a survivor of childhood physical and sexual abuse.
@@PhyllisMN26 Interesting how this "incriminating" piece of evidence was never ever mentioned to the therapists by Mia. Interesting how the "thumb sucking" was never mentioned by Mia or any other witness in the court trial. Interesting how it never came up in Mia's autobiography. The claim only appeared in the 2013 Vanity Fair article, the same article that couldn't be fact-checked so Mia had to sign a document saying it was the truth from "her point of view"...also known as Mia's opinion. Woody denies the thumb sucking claim and Moses Farrow backs him saying he never saw such behavior.
Gentlemen, congratulations on a thoughtful piece on the documentary series. I'm a fan of Allen's work and of Farrow's acting (both with and without Allen). My reading of the case, which I have followed since the scandal broke in 1992, is that he did not molest Dylan Farrow in an attic in August 1992, although I think she sincerely believes that to be the case today. But I think you handled the material in an evenhanded and considerate way. The only thing I want to pick a bone with is that May/December romances are not as much of a fixation in Allen's writing as they're made out to be. There's nothing like that in Radio Days, Zelig, Manhattan Murder Mystery, Broadway Danny Rose, Sweet and Lowdown, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Match Point, Alice, Blue Jasmine, Vicky Cristina Barcelona, etc. Very often, the female lead in films in which he personally acted was someone not all *that* much younger than he (Ms. Farrow, Diane Keaton, and his second wife Louise Lasser account for a lot of films among the three of them, and they're all within ten years of him). It's true that in Manhattan and Husbands and Wives, one of the two love interests for his character is a teenager, but however we feel about the appropriateness of middle-aged people and teenagers, I can't make a "therefore" conclusion about his having a sexual interest in a seven-year-old. So I think the most virulently anti-Allen contingent has tried to make too much of that. PS - I loved the "All of Them Witches" T-shirt!
Can't stand his movies or him. It always irked me that his favourite curse word in his movies was Jesus Christ. Very disrespectful from a Jewish person.
Crazy and vindictive is a bit reductive for the character in Blue Jasmine, who is an attempted update on Blanche Dubois. She's unstable and makes bad decisions, but I don't think she's unsympathetic. Allen has made about 50 films, and most have had prominent roles for female actors. Inevitably when someone is that prolific, there will be characters who remind us of ones we've already met, but I don't think he leans too much on a particular type of woman. He's written women who are poised and controlled (Gena Rowlands in Another Woman, Mia Farrow in Zelig), clingy and desperate (Anjelica Huston in Crimes and Misdemeanors), tough and foul-mouthed (Judy Davis in Husbands and Wives, Farrow in Broadway Danny Rose), imperious and theatrical (Dianne Wiest in Bullets Over Broadway), seemingly ditzy but with surprises (Farrow in Radio Days), seemingly ditzy with no surprises (Jennifer Tilly in Bullets Over Broadway), seriously mentally ill (Charlotte Rampling in Stardust Memories), bawdy yet nurturing (Maureen Stapleton in Interiors), bawdy and not at all nurturing (Elaine Stritch in September)...
@@simonboccanegra3811 All of those characters are pre Allen vs. Farrow. I can't verify that all his other female characters follow the same reductive trope because after watching those two movies, I lost interest in him as a storyteller and film maker.
@@ginapiroli6136 Bullets was a little after the split and the scandal. But I was just naming ones I was most familiar with. Allen's movies of the 21st century generally aren't as good as those of his peak period (through about '94), so I haven't seen all of them. However, I get it if -- on artistic grounds -- he just isn't someone's cup of tea. That can be said of even the best filmmakers. I struggle with Fellini, although there are some Fellini movies I do like.
This video makes me very sad. I am conviced Woody Allen is innocent. If they had something why do a documentary? The guys is accused to have mollested his daughter. Once! One very day! Nothing before, nothing since ! Com'on!
Especially because of Manhattan it's not hard to see Allen involved with an underage teenager. (Read it was based on a real relationship with a teenage actress, but that the age of consent in New York or NYC at the time was 16 or 17, so it wasn't illegal.) But there's a big difference between 17 & 7.
For those of us who were actually aware when these events went down, the whole Soon Yi business was on its face strange, and I had a great deal of sympathy for Farrow. But then when she pulled out the the molestation stuff it seemed like a desperate attempt at revenge. The timing alone was fishy. 7 year-old Dylan even said on the ride to an interview with one of the Yale psych social workers 'daddy didn't to anything' (which probably earned her a good hiding that night since it has since come to light that that was Mia's MO). None of this comes out in this highly biased, sensationalist, and ratings seeking account. Nothing about how Farrow had ended their romantic relationship five years prior to the Soon Yi incident. Nothing about Farrow's three dead adoptees (2 by suicides, 1 by overdose). Nothing about Moses and Soon Yi's accounts of their distressed and abusive childhoods. Nothing about brother John incarcerated in Maryland on multiple counts of child molestation. The family of John Farrow and Maureen O'Sullivan were dysfunctional even by Hollywood standards! And of course there's nothing about Mia herself, how she forced Soon Yi's company on Allen (who had no idea who she was) in an effort to get her to come out of her shell. How she would accept potential adoptees out on approval and send them back to squalor if they didn't fit. And then the impossibly sordid Dory Previn story. Mia sought out Previn's friendship with the hidden agenda of seducing her husband. This is a person perfectly capable of brainwashing or bullying a child into saying what she wants to hear in exchange for her parsimonious affection. Not a nice person. Had Allen never met Soon Yi, Mia might very likely be the subject of Mommy Dearest 2.0
Yes! It's so infuriating that people who are just now hearing this story are hearing it from the perspective of the malignant narcissist mother. Mother Mia, the Saintly Madonna like "protective" parent. Anyone who knows this story, and who understands covert narcissism.....is sickened by this portrayal of Mia as an innocent victim !!! She is a monster.
Woody Allen is innocent. Mia Farrow should be jailed for children abuse and slander. Dylan should get professional help. And Ronan.. he really needs to stop with plastic surgery.
@@fishjellyfilmreviews Yeah, probably. Thank you for your concern. Here is more of Mia: observer.com/2015/01/mia-farrow-apparently-finds-family-pics-by-googling-mia-farrow-her-black-children/
Woody and Mia both lived in New York, across the park from one another. Mia had a vacation home in Connecticut. Mia was a being responsible parent by not living with Woody without being married. Good thing that she didn’t.
Mia - stayed with best friend, who was married to Previn and pregnant. Mia started affair with Previn who divorced Wife and married Mia. They split up after Ronan was born, rumoured as a result of affair with Sinatra. Woody - one accusation, in long Hollywood career. Listen to Moses say what an evil mother Mia was
@@jeffbrunton3291 Rowan Farrow is Woody’s son. Mia & Andre Previn were long divorced. Andre is The father of Mia’s eldest twin sons, SunYi, and 2 other daughters.
I came away from this documentary thinking that both Mia and Woody are nuts and I don’t think either one of them was good for any of the children they adopted or had. Mia‘s Asian adopted son has come out in support of Woody and multiple children of Mia’s, that she adopted, have committed suicide and Mia Farrow’s brother was convicted of child sexual assault and sentenced to 10 years in prison.
You guys even seem uncomfortable talking about this. It was an uncomfortable watch. But I think it's a story that needs to be told. I remember seeing this news story around 12 and not fully getting it but knew the Sun-Yi thing was a bit weird. Expose Evil and detect it before it can come your way in another form. I was never a fan.
The problem with this is the commentators the Host dont seem concise and to the point ,its like they are talking to each other across the dinner table and giving opinions .
from a Woman of Mexico that we have a lot of abuse, i only have to tell "that it is legal does not mean that it is correct" we use to normalize things that are not correct
Exactly.
Not being vegan for one thing; unncessecarily violating the well-being of innocent sentient entities with the will to live without suffering, without consent.
Mariel Hemingway in her autobiography spoke of Allen trying to convince her to go to Europe with him. He was then visiting her and her parents in Idaho after the filming of "Manhattan". Hemingway sensed this was not a platonic invitation and being a smart teenager, she did not accept. Thanks for a great review.
@@sundaygirlsez Yes. I found that concerning.
@@g-love6507 He was good friends with Jeffrey Epstein. Imagine those conversations! He was almost 40 years older than Soon-yi.
Ms. Hemingway remained friends with him and acted in his film Deconstructing Harry (1997).
@@simonboccanegra3811 So?. He was still 42 years old and it was grossly inappropriate to proposition ( understatement) a 17 year old minor practically in front of her parents. The parents did not protect her. She protected herself.
@@msw8839 I hope you aren't a fan of pretty much any rock stars, then. You must *really* loathe David Bowie, John Lennon, Jimmy Page, pretty much any male star who was big in the '60s and '70s, who had sex with teen groupies who have since gone on the record. Some of those groupies have written memoirs about their experiences.
My position is that it's for Ms. Hemingway to be offended or not. She said no and that was that. She was 17, as you say, not 11 or 6. And this has f***-all to do with a charge of child molestation of a 7-year-old.
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To say Mia was woody's Exgirl friend is misleading. They were together 12 years and presented themselves as common law husband and wife in public and certain circles where it was to their advantage. NY and CT have very different divorce laws. Had they moved in together their individual fortunes would have been attached in divorce proceedings. Soon Yi was brought up with Mia as her mom and woody as a surrogate dad/father figure. It was wrong for woody to have sexual relationship with her while in a relationship with her mom or even after and then to enlist her in the cover up of that affair. There is also potential that he groomed her for years for a forthcoming sexual relationship.
You should make a documentary.
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Well said!
@Kevin Shaughnessy Sun yi was Mia’s daughter. That’s not in dispute. Woody was aware she was Mia’s daughter, and he even acknowledged she had problems in that audiobook. Instead of trying to be empathetic, and help her he uses it as an opportunity to wedge between her mother, and have his way with her. I get an impression Mia was timid with Woody, and he shamed her into signing those adaption papers. Everything I see points to a predator.
Woody was never any type of father figure. She has a father, Andre Previn. Woody never lived in the same house as she did. She actually didn't like him much, as she thought anyone who was interested in her abusive mother had to be awful.
@@fishjellyfilmreviews there is a great one,not by HBO.
By the Way, Woody is Innocent -
A far more compelling, researched, & factual account - not done in secret for several years with Mia & her two minions with an HBO deal, but from an unbiased person learning the information from documents, witnesses, articles & interview with relevant sources -
Rick Worley
ua-cam.com/video/muyaCg2dGAk/v-deo.html
It sounds like if Woody wasn't famous he would have likely went to prison. The actors praising him have no idea how he is behind closed doors
Or worse...they do
Wealthy and famous people get away with a lot more than the average person. That was obviously eluded to in this video
They Loved Weinstein, and Epstein.
We know that, 26 trips Bill REALLY !!!!!
I remember this when I was a kid. Never liked Woody Allen because of this. Even back then I knew “famous people” could get away with things us “regular people” never would.
Idk if I’ll watch this because it might just make me angry but I appreciate the review guys!
were you even alive when this happened?
@@TroglodyteDiner yes. Yes I was.
"regular people" pull this sh!t too and often get away with it.
How long was he having a relationship with Mia adopted daughter before WOODY marriage that 18yrs old adopted girl? Did Woody just wake up one day and decided today I am going to marry Mia adopted daughter.
Hey adopted daughter of my GIRLFRIEND I want to marry you Today and the adopted girl said OKAY FATHER let’s get married.
Soon'Yi is the daughter of Andre Previn and Mia Farrow, not Woody.
Soon'Yi was 21 when they started their relationship.
After living together for 7 years Allen married Soon Yi.
He was not her father.
I don’t know if it’s true or not what Allen did to Dylan , soon yi if he truly molested or groomed them etc . but you can’t just dismiss that the man has creepy obsession making movies about young women , teenage girls with much older men almost geriatric aged men.
so what?
@@TheLiveMusicGroup I agree. So what? Just like Mia has an obsession with much older men. She was 21 when she married 50 year old Frank Sinatra; she was 25 when she married 41 year old Andre Previn (he was still married. Mia got pregnant and broke up his marriage).
Only 6 of his 54 films features a young woman (in her early-mid 20s) in a relationship with a much older man. So not a "creepy obsession" at all.
I remember you guys talking about this video of yours getting the most views so when it popped up, I was very excited to watch. Oh my god!!!! What a complicated topic with, like you say, some very personal moments here. I agree with you totally: We'll never know! This certainly seems like something to watch with friends so you can all discuss at length all the complex and unfair different topics that are brought up in this documentary.
Thanks again
Bottom line is Mia said when she first met him, he had no interest in her kids or even wanted to meet them. That would have been a non-starter for me if I had kids. They even played an interview of him saying they lived in two households and he didn’t have to see them 24/7 or change diapers. Never enter a relationship hoping the other person will eventually change. He seemed weird from jump.
so what are you saying?
@@TheLiveMusicGroup - that they were not suited from the very start. Never enter a relationship hoping the person will change.
@@nunyanunya4964 yet for some reason they were together for 12 years! I dont claim to understand it; people are strange
Look times for women were different back then. She was in her 30s and had 7 children. Guys back then would see her as used goods and not date her. Mia probably felt she had to compromise herself and take what she could get.
Constantly felt like Mia was compromising herself to keep a man.
Question: Would a psychiatrist after all these decades actually recommend pursuing this case rather than to have the victim move on with their life. Many rape victims have never received justice against their attackers but are urged to get passed this event with counselors and support groups. In all these mess, isn't Dylan the most important.
EQUALLY ALL THE CHILDREN ARE IMPORTANT, NOT JUST HER BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC ALLEGATIONS, WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER CHILDREN. DON'T GET ME WRONG, I DO EMPATHIZE WITH DYLAN, AND WHILE I DO KNOW IT MUST BE HORRIBLE TO RELIVE TIME AND TIME AGAIN WHAT SHE WENT THROUGH, I KNOW SHE IS NOT ALONE AND FOR YEARS HAS RECEIVED THE HELP THAT SHES NEEDED TO RISE FROM THAT STRUGGLE & WILL CONTINUE TO GET HELP. CAN YOU IMAGINE THE SILENT STRUGGLES OF THE OTHER CHILDREN WHO HAVEN'T BEEN PUBLICLY SUPPORTED.
@@annabellezuniga3422 thank you, the media just focuses on the one adopted daughter to mia and Woody, and their one biological child Ronana and the hell with Soon Yi, Moses and the others, adopting 11 children when your then boyfriend tells you he doesn't eat to have cchildren or antything to duo with them, so you go out and adopt more and more, and when they don't turn out or say the correct things, you abuse them and beat them and brainwash them into thinking your way. DYLAN IS LYING, AND ronana was only 3 years old he cant remember or saw what happened at age 3 at all only Moses and the other children who lived in that house which were older the Dylan and Roanan.
@@annabellezuniga3422 Doesn't it bother you that the only alleged abuse victim Dylan cares about is Dylan? Based on all of the publicly record and available evidence, I do not believe that this event of abuse happened and that she has false memories drummed into her by Mia. But, even if the sexual abuse did happen, why does Dylan feel the need to relive it over and over and not move on. She has become a professional victim and because she has absolutely no interest in helping other victims, including her siblings Moses, Soon Yi and the other non-white adoptees, she is no longer a sympathetic figure. She is a tragic one. And shame on Mia for keeping it alive.
@@gheller2261 it doesn't bother me honestly, i just find it really telling of what people in their circle are capable of. I find it revealing how things are twisted and turned for the public audiences and how that whole family expertly exercises those abilities.
Woody Allen gave his story of events quite heavily in 1992 and in several interviews, Mia never did. I believe Dylan and have never watched a Allen movie since
Mia never did? Mia's Story/Vanity Fair - 1992, Mia & Woody/edited and fact checked by Mia - 1994, What Falls Away - 1997
You can pay a Psychologist to say whatever you want. The way it works is that the Court orders a Psychologist, and the whatever side wants to dispute that report hires another Psychologist that comes up with the facts favorable to that side. If you have enough money you can hire an infinite amount of psychologists.
Didn't work for the State of Connecticut's prosecution team because the psychologists they hired sided with the defendent...Woody.
No movie, script, or piece of art is worth the innocence of a child. Sorry. When you are abused, raped, or assaulted it sticks with you forever. It changes the person you were or who you would have been. I lived with mine for over twenty years and at 40 years old I’m still dealing with the affects. That pain you see in Dylan is the pain of knowing what happened to you but having other people determine what that pain is worth. Anyone who can still look at Woody Allen and be ok should question why. How much is your child’s innocence worth? What if this was your child, how would you feel if a movie was worth the dismissal of your child’s pain?
I don’t care how fantastic Woody Allen’s movies are, he is a predator. Also, I don’t think Dylan thought all those celebrities were all speaking out specifically just for her or this was all for her, I think she just was grateful to FINALLY be seen! You don’t understand the amount of extra pain that comes with suffering silently and the shame and fear that comes with not being believed. Our society still gets it so wrong when it comes to victims.
You two do a wonderful job of parsing through this mess.
Thank you
It's actually not much of a mess. Everything is quite straight forward. It's the Farrow camp that makes it a mess by keeping it alive and creating a false narrative that favors her.
@@buzzcrushtrendkill You do not appear to understand the word "groom" which is used by people far too often without any context, and it provides an easy way to arrive at an opinion without doing the research to learn what actually occurred.
What is it that he is supposed to be accountable for? By all accounts, theirs is a happy marriage that produced two happy kids. Who are we to judge that?
Yes, I get it, engaging in a relationship with your former lover's daughter is not something that most people would approve of (as if their approval is at all necessary). But it is neither illegal nor even immoral; it's just unusual and even weird. People do not need to be "accountable" for doing something unusual or weird. And groomers almost never marry their victims; they move on to the next one. Contrary to what some would argue because they lack knowledge of the facts, Woody Allen was never a parent or father figure to Soon Yi. He had almost nothing to do with her until she was around 19 when Mia asked him to spend time with her and get to know her. Their physical relationship did not happen until she was at least 20 years old. So, when did this supposed "grooming" happen?
Finally, if you are somehow referencing the alleged sexual abuse of Dylan Farrow when talking accountability, the overwhelming evidence that is publicly available (and it is a lot) points to the likelihood that the alleged event of sexual abuse never happened. The evidence does show that Mia was and still is her abuser (and an abuser of her other non-white kids), not Woody Allen.
@@buzzcrushtrendkill You seem to have some synapses missing. Your sarcasm is silly and trite. Very easy to say "would you feel the same if it were your daughter." That's a freaking cop out and an easy way to deflect that you do not know the facts. The fact is, whether or not I think it was a good idea for these two to become involved, Soon Yi was "of age" when the physical relationship began (20 or 21) and there was nothing illegal about it. As for morality, I am not into judging people that way and I will deal with my own personal life and children as I deem appropriate, thank you very much.
You throw out pedophilia and obviously do not know what that means. Not sure if you are relating it to Soon Yi, which would be silly because she was of age, or Dylan. In any event, pedophilia is a disorder that is compulsive and demands repetition, and where the perpetrator's sexual attraction is exclusive to pre-pubescent children. We know about many of Woody Allen's adult relationships, including with his current wife, and other than the single alleged event of abuse at the Farrow farmhouse, not a single other allegation of abuse has been made against him in his 86-years on this earth (and none involving his two adopted daughters, who reportedly adore him). If he is a pedophile, he is not a very good one. Woody Allen is not a pedophile.
Regarding Dylan, it is well documented that this alleged event of abuse, if it happened, happened once (which makes the allegation even more incredible). This does not fit the profile at all. Moreover, Dylan was alone with Woody Allen many times before the day of the alleged abuse, which purportedly occurred in the Farrow house under the watchful eyes of at least 10 other people (during a custody battle). Yet, this so-called pedophile never once abused her before that? Does that make sense? And, although a different matter, it is noteworthy that there has never been a single allegation of sexual impropriety or harassment from any woman who ever worked with him even though the majority of his staff for 40+ years have been women.
Interesting how you mention his looks because that's a big part of all of this and it screams of anti-semitism and racism -- a small, Jewish man who has stereotypically Jewish features (how could anyone find HIM attractive) with a young, plain Asian woman whose looks many have been unkind about. If this had been George Clooney and a 20-year old Japanese Vogue model, nobody would have thought twice about the relationship. Dian Cannon and Cary Grant; Bogie and Bacall; Elvis and Priscilla; Seline Dion and her husband. Few batted an eye because they were glamorous, usually pretty people. When the Friends character Monica was with Tom Selleck, nobody screamed PEDOPHILE!! or even that it was inappropriate.
Oh, and fact is, many women have said that they find Woody Allen sexy because he is smart and funny, and they like Jewish looking men. They are out there.
Even though you are likely dug in, here is a bunch of stuff to read and watch. Time for you to learn something because the HBO series was a Farrow sponsored, hagiographic, fact deficient hit job:
mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05/a-son-speaks-out-by-moses-farrow.html
ua-cam.com/video/muyaCg2dGAk/v-deo.html
www.thedailybeast.com/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast
ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2016/05/30/hard-questions-for-ronan-farrow-an-open-letter/
ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2019/04/08/the-truth-about-woody-allen-part-i/
ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2019/04/08/the-truth-about-woody-allen-part-ii/
ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2020/07/20/the-rise-and-fail-of-ronan-farrow/
ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2021/02/28/farrow-v-farrow-the-case-of-the-magical-disappearing-electric-toy-train/
ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2021/03/07/the-interview-that-never-happened/
levine2001.medium.com/the-woody-allen-controversy-reader-why-maureen-orths-10-undeniable-facts-about-the-woody-allen-5f26791c15a0
levine2001.medium.com/the-woody-allen-controversy-reader-did-dory-previns-song-lyrics-influence-mia-farrow-in-accusing-6cb1f83038fe
levine2001.medium.com/in-her-attempts-to-brand-woody-allen-a-child-molester-mia-farrow-made-a-videotape-of-her-f6d4c555c582
www.woodyallenmoblynching.com
quillette.com/2021/03/28/allen-v-farrow-intellectually-dishonest-propaganda-meets-emotional-blackmail/
forward.com/opinion/395553/woody-allens-innocence-should-be-a-feminist-cause/
www.theguardian.com/film/2021/mar/03/allen-v-farrow-woody-allen-mia-farrow-documentary-is-pure-pr-why-else-would-it-omit-so-much
bookandfilmglobe.com/film/allen-v-farrow-documentary-review/
moviecitynews.com/2021/02/review-allen-v-farrow/
ua-cam.com/video/8JomEP29Uhg/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/uVsDixMvvOQ/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/zozl9K9cbmc/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/qk7QSBEbZsc/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/k2ZcAoOqOeU/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/7YhdbyvLxn0/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/WDTwP4bUD4g/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/LJedjqHckTU/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/hOFW9xe7ZzM/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/RkLZe7MPb0g/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/Gzc6DOP41BI/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/users/resultssearch_query=elizabeth+loftus+how+reliable+is+your+memory
unherd.com/2021/02/what-woody-allens-accusers-wont-tell-you/
www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/woody-allen-is-not-a-child-molester/
@@buzzcrushtrendkill In addition to the other words that you do not know the meaning of, you do not know the meaning of the word objective. You're nothing more than a small minded dolt holding his thumbs in his ears and shouting "la la la I'm not listening" because you are faced with the possibility, indeed likelihood, that what you believe is wrong. I will waste no more time on you.
Mia Farrow and Woody Allen have one thing in common. They don't care about the "mores" of society. But they are using society as a judge to a way of life most of us cannot identify with or understand.
I’m waiting for the body & language reading experts to deliver their opinions on the main characters. Especially WA.
The thing that always bugged me was that the girl lost one set of parents and Woody was so focused on his own needs that he didn’t consider what it would be like for her to lose a potential second set. And yes, I single him out because of course a young woman who has been separated from her biological father is going to develop a fat infatuation with an older man that shows her attention and affection. Someone who has examined the human condition in the depth that he has should be well aware of that.
In other words, no matter how it went down, Woody took her away from the only real mother she had.
He accused Mia of parental alienation???
( rereads what I just wrote)
SHE was alienating a parent?
Ye gods, he has no shame.
What girl are you talking about? Dylan Farrow? Soon-Yi?
@@kellyalves756 I'm not doubting Dylan's account, but my God what an ANNOYING off putting, self absorbed victim. Cashing in her abuse for likes, views and followers....What a gross society we've become.
i'm pretty sure dylan is only doing this documentary as a PR thing to sell her novel "Hush" i mean you have to know that she's making bank off of people that actually were victims of sexual abuse and honestly i think she and Mia are the antichrist... being sexually abused is one thing but there's a special place in hell for people that accuse men of sexual assault to vindictively ruin their lives and then try to profit off of these false allegations....
@@sisterS224 Soon-Yi.
I love the Criterion collection in the back!
If Mia was such a bad mother, where are the statements by school teachers or personnel attesting to that? Woody is a liar
I'm only on episode 1, but this documentary doesn't paint Mia in a good light at all. She deliberately ignored red flags with Woody Allen's interactions with Dylan. Mia & Woody are both weird AF. Such dysfunction, and to raise kids in that environment.
2 of her children have taken their own lives.
And other children have spoken out about being abused by her.
Mia was a terrible person, she got her adopted children to cook, clean and look after her younger children.
@@august6389 stop 🛑 the madness.
@@IyaPatsyOriginalEgunlady you asked a question and I answered it.
Not my problem how the answer triggers you
@@august6389 🤣🤣🤣
I like how these guys have all those Criterion Collection DVDs behind them. Seems like they have excellent taste in film!
After spending *years* curating my very own Criterion Collection, hunting everywhere for gems, sending away for interesting pieces, I scrapped the project entirely when I found out they added "Armageddon"!! HORRIBLE!!
@@widowrumstrypze9705 😂
Why can I not stop looking at that animation hovering over ur heads of ur heads 🤣🤣 it's too cute!
I personally still want to watch. To me, a documentary doesn't always serve the same function as something you'd see on National Geographic. These topics are often focused on one side. Again, I haven't watched the it, but as an adult, if I'm asked to tell the same story more than 10 times, inconsistency begins at maybe 7 and by 15, I'm not even sure if the story would appear to "add up" at all. Putting it all out there for a 4-part documentary is open to film criticism and I'm glad you guys sat down and discussed it with us. Love you guys and keep making content!
nah fuck it
What we cannot speak about we must pass over in silence.
I watched a woody Allen movie and when I looked up the information about him I found out about this. I believed her. She was consistent. And he ran off with her sister.
she was not consistent. she consistently repeated mia's lies and brainwashing is all. how pathetic you can't manage to learn a single actual fact. this show is not actual fact. how pathetic.
@@yourmajesty1630 Who said she was coached?
@@manigje1 r u Kidding? Its not that hard to learn the facts
How y’all see all four... I’m really astonished as to why this is so unbelievable...like really he married her daughter why are we ignoring that? He’s a director I could see him becoming a character from a script he once wrote just to get that authentic feel of a predator. So the audience get that raw feeling of a character
shows you don't know his work
@@sodapop83 you really don’t know there were several scripts that didn’t make the cut soda pop
Living for the shirts!!!!❤️
It’s too bad our society has historically made it very difficult for victims to come forward and feel supported. I believe this is one of the biggest reasons we’re seeing so much hashed out in the ‘court of public opinion’. Also, I don’t think that’s such a bad thing, as it is sparking some important conversation. I was raised on Woody Allen, and loved him for years. In 1992 when the allegations came out re: Dylan my gut told me it was true. My gut was informed by my intake of his interviews, his books, and his film. I allowed the media blitz by Allen’s PR army to lull me back into a mild state of cognitive dissonance. I don’t want it to be true, but I believe Dylan. I think Woody is a very slick wolf in self deprecating sheep’s clothing. His is probably the most convincing mask I’ve seen on a child predator, and I’ve seen a mask or three. Thanks for the video!
Better to be informed by facts than your gut.... ua-cam.com/video/muyaCg2dGAk/v-deo.html
@@MARKCC1330 I was referring to my childhood, young adulthood, leading up to now. I’m in my 50s and am very well informed as of now. Thanks!
@@jennifermariejoyce But I was clearly referring to how your gut informs your views on WA, etc, such as "When the allegations came out re: Dylan my gut told me it was true. My gut was informed by...." I'm surprised that such a well informed person misunderstood this. Watch the linked documentary. Then you can claim to be well informed, though judging my some of your comments I suspect you're unable/unwilling to look at this objectively. Cheers!
@@MARKCC1330 The allegations became public in 1992. I didn’t want to believe it, and at that time (in 1992) we didn’t have the luxury of the internet. This is why I was going by my gut instinct.
Many years have passed since then, and I have gathered plenty of facts since then. It’s possible to have a gut instinct, and gather facts. My initial confirmation bias was to find him innocent. As time has passed, and I’ve gained more knowledge (mostly through public records), and informing myself about child sex abuse, how it’s treated, and statistics on reporting, indictment, conviction, etc. my opinion has become more open to the idea that Dylan is telling the truth. I don’t claim to know for sure, and no one else can either, unless they were there. So there you go, I’m good on info. Thanks.
@@jennifermariejoyce My reply seems to have disappeared. Hmmm. Anyway, I recommend watching the documentary I linked for you. Then you can rightly claim to be good on info. Finally, I understand that injustices happen where child abuse is concerned but that doesn't make Allen guilty. The facts tell us that it's highly unlikely that he is. All the best.
I agree, Nick. The subjective opinions of actors was both pointless and insulting to the victims
You can tell how powerful allen is- how come no one is discussing this on news media - he is definitely guilty, a seven year old can’t make up stories not unless it was done to her...
Mia could make up the story and she did, and she programmed it into her seven-year-old daughter. She made her repeat it until it was a false memory, and there it stays. The abuse came from Mia.
@@michellemauler4199 were you there? Did you even watch the documentary?
Unless her mother methodically coached her. Allen’s movies don’t even make much money. He has power because he’s an auteur.
@@deborahe3117 She doesn’t need to watch the documentary. Nobody does. There’s no new revelations in it and there’s a lot left out.
Kids do lie about this.
I remember a Nightline segment on this case. Allen asserts that during this case Farrow calls Allen about her appearing in his film Manhattan Murder Mysteries. He claims that she still assumed she was still cast in the movie.! Its such a twisted salacious tale though.
Try reading Robert Evans book on his producing Rosemary's Baby, and how she agreed to extend her time in shooting the film as needed, though she had previously agreed with Frank Sinatra, her new husband, that she would be available to work at an earlier time so she could proceed with her role in a film he was scheduled to film. This was the straw that broke the camels back for Frank, who then told Mia that it (the new marriage) was over, and he walked out on her. During this push and pull period, Evans had stroked her ego so profusely in promises that she was sure to obtain an Oscar for her performance, after he had viewed the early rushes of her work on the film up to that point. She was then faced with being pulled from two sides. The director, Roman Polanski wanted her for more shooting, though she was legally (by contract) permitted to end her participation and proceed to her new film with Sinatra. Evans claims that her ego was so inflated by his raving over her performance that she re wrote and "signed-on" to the Rosemary's Baby contract, and snubbed Frank, and his own production of a Tony Rome detective film, in which he also starred (but no longer with Mia)..
It may be productive also to take a look at her earlier childhood where she was sexually abused by her own father, John Farrow, then a very famous and successful Hollywood director. What he had been equally famous for (within the Hollywood studio circle ) was his continuous and widely recognized philandering with young film beauties, even while he was married to one of its most beautiful and successful lovelies, Maureen O'Sullivan (Jane, in the Weissmuller Tarzan movies), who "played" Mia's mother. That very strained Hollywood marital relationship was given an autobiographic (around Mia's biography) artistic treatment in Woody's very successful "Hannah, and Her Sisters", where Maureen O' Sullivan "played" the mother of Hannah (performed by Mia), and was married to just such a philandering Hollywood entertainer, played by Lloyd Nolan. Three of Hannah's (Mia's own adopted) children characters were "played" by Soon Yi Previn, Daisy Previn, and Moses Farrow. Fletcher Previn was also cast as one of the "Thanksgiving Dinner guests" in the film but not identified as one of Hannah's (Mia's role) children. One of the film's subplots in the film dealt with this ongoing battle between the historically unfaithful husband (Hannah's, and presumably Mia's Dad, John Farrow), with his beautiful and faithful wife (the Maureen O'Sullivan role). No treatment is given in the film to Mia's actual brother who is now in prison for sexually grooming, and then raping two young boys. Nor of her (Mia's) uncle who also went to prison for sexual abuse of young children.
A rather sordid biography in all respects, and one worthy of minimal investigation prior to casting stories at those people accused of wrongdoing by that very same highly questionable human "character" from life.
What's this got to do with the rape allegations smh
Moses Farrow did come forward with terrible stories about Mia's abuse. It's a sad story all around, but if we should always believe the victim, why is his story not being considered by the Woody haters? ua-cam.com/video/HBD30WF5t7k/v-deo.html
@@MsRoxanne45 So it is a victim contest: using "psychology" to explain away one victim's claim as alienation (the child turns on the victim to save the accused parent) - doing away with all the instances of abuse reported by the "alienated" child. Convenient but unconvincing. It is hard, isn't it, to just admit that things might be a tad more complicated ?
Yeah, that's not what's happening here. But nice try though. Read the Robert Weide pieces, those written by Justin Levine (who uncovers the Maureen Orth writings as complete nonsense), watch the UA-cam documentary "By The Way, Woody Allen Is Innocent." Any reasonable person willing to take in those and review court transcripts should conclude that the abuse of Dylan did not happen. And people's being icked out by Soon Yi doesn't change that.
Precisely
All her other children deny this and his story changed from just a few years ago and his whole childhood. Meanwhile Dylan and several others witnessed Woodys unusually and molesting behavior first hand.
@@JDMimeTHEFIRST I read his testimony from his blog, then i saw his recent tributes to his two siblings that committed suicide, and an intervention about his involvement for adopted kids who are victims of abuse: his story has NOT changed.
Are Moses and Sun-Yi included in this documentary? They've been very public about Mia's physical and mental abuse towards her adopted children, and SPECIFICALLY Mia's treatment of her adopted children of color verses her birth children -- how they were abused and treated as servants, compared to her treatment of Ronan and Dylan. Just weird stuff all around. But it seems the voices of Farrow's adopted children of color have been left out completely from this documentary.
No
Only home movie footage of them in the first episode. Not sure about the content of the rest of it.
No. Because they don't serve the narrative. If I am Woody and Soon Yi I sue the crap out of these producers, filmmakers and Maureen Orth.
Moses is hedging his bets. As the only child that is defending his adopted father, he stands to inherit quite a bit of money one day. He’ll recant, again after pay day. As far as Mia’s children committing suicide, perhaps they were silent victims of Woody also, who saw the injustice that was done to their family and took their own lives. Woody Allen is a Narcissist, just like R. Kelly. They both use their art to lull us into acceptance of their anti social behavior. White privilege and $$ helped Woody avoid jail. His films brought millions of dollars into NYC. An Ultra Narcissist triangulates people and systems. I wonder how his adopted daughters with SunYi are getting on?
#IBelieveDylan
@@IyaPatsyOriginalEgunlady You might as well have just said I Believe Dylan even if God revealed himself to me and told me the sexual abuse never happened. All because the Woody-Soon Yi relationship icks you out.
If a prosecutor really believed that they had probable cause would they not be obliged to pursue criminal charges? In this case, the prosecutor was criticised for his comments (a state disciplinary panel called his comments "inappropriate, unsolicited and potentially prejudicial").
Although the statute of limitations for a criminal case may have passed, I believe that a civil case could still be pursued.
In many cases of sexual abuse the court could still have enough evidence but they can choose not to bring charges if they believe it will cause the child more harm it is not right but the court does it when I was a child I went through something similar and while they proved assault but they thought going through a court battle would cause more harm
Moses Farrow, has publicly said that 3 of the adopted children have died. Two took their own lives and the 3rd did asked not to be resuscitated. She adopted children with a lot of medical, psychological issues and that may be a reason for the deaths. But 3 dead adoptees in one household?
One of them committed suicide.
I find both Mia and Woody are freakin weird. I really think the abuse made Soon Yi sees Woody as an escape from Mia, similar situations that occurred to her other adopted daughters resulted in them finding escape in drugs or crime while Woody was an outsider that took advantage of it.
Yes that needs looking into. Mia seems very unstable. Two of her kids allege extreme abuse by Mia to the point that one committed suicide from it.
ft.Jack&Jimmy agree
So? It happens all the time with biological families.
Great job calling out the stark difference to Leaving Neverland.
Then again is it very different? You believe MJ is guilty?
@@pointsbeingmade7996 I believe MJ is 100% innocent but the HBO movie just had two people telling their side of a story that has changed several times.
@@TaitsTake Yeah and the difference to this one being? Woody innocent and Mia behind the HBO docu to keep playing the victim? Seems like the similarities are there.
I watched neverland for the 2nd time yesterday and yesterday I was starting to think MJ may be guilty after all. Kind of shows what 4 hours of the same narrative makes you believe😂
@@pointsbeingmade7996 if you got 8 hours to watch Leaving Neverland, I would take a second to check out Square One if you have Amazon Prime.
@@TaitsTake do you have a family account?
PLEASE tell me where you got your Rosemary's baby tshirt!
This is the most even-handed approach I have seen about this topic online.
Except it isn't. Not even in the ballpark.
convincing people that someone they like is a sexual predator is a process. It wont be an overnight thing. For all those defending woody, your going through a tough process and when you get to the other end, your in suprise for a feeling of just goodness when you align yourself with reality.
You need facts...and you don't have any.
It's cognitive dissonance that's what they are experiencing.
@@vanitysmirror You think Woody is guilty even though multiple agencies cleared Allen saying no molestation took place. Is that what you mean by cognitive dissonance?
Very simple. Read the pieces by Robert Weide, watch the two and a half hour documentary created by Rick Worley available on UA-cam and Justin Levine's debunking of Maureen Orth's hit pieces and then come to a conclusion. It will likely be different than if you just watch the HBO series or rely on uninformed commenters.
@Векторная Эйфория You are correct. And someone who does not want to change their mind won't. People have a hard time admitting they were wrong.
Excellent, and lucid review, I don't think I can remember when Joseph, was so animated in his thoughts and also leading much of the conversation, along.
"gay homosexuals"...much better than garden variety homosexuals indeed. :)
i haven't watched this documentary but I remember reading about how he denied having ever gone in the attic only for his DNA to be found and me thinking, why lie about going into a room, it hard to trust anything he has to say after that scientifically proven lie.
True.
@Infinite Jeff so he had an invisibility cloak that he could hide him and Dylan then?
@Infinite Jeff where did he go for 20 minutes though?
@Infinite Jeff at the time there was no conflicting testimonies.
Only woody Allen gave a contradictory story. Moses gave testimony later that contradicts all facts. It contradicted woody Allen at the custody hearing, it contradicted other eye witness testimony that was given to the police, farrow, and the court, and it contradicted the police.
So there really isn’t a lot of contradictory evidence or testimony. Pretty much all testimony and evidence point to Allen having been up there. No you may have unreasonable doubt. I can’t account for that, but we need a plausible place for him
To have been.
@Infinite Jeff who said he never left the room? I never heard that.
The baby sitter said “I saw him in the room with his head in her lap. I was horrified and left.” Or soemthing very similar. They didn’t know where he went. That’s not saying “I know he was in the room the whole time.”
Oh lawd not this mess again! I lived through the trial and was completely grossed out. I guess people will get constantly bombarded by rehashings of Woody, O.J., Michael and Jonbenet, for the rest of time.
Great review fellas! Glad the subscriptions are skyrocketing!
Hugs from a cold East Coast! ❤️
There was no trial.
3 thumbs up for a false assertion. THERE WAS NO TRIAL.
I lost it I thought you said curvy dick too and had to rewind. Too bad we didn't see Joseph's initial reaction
I think it’s sad that both the Farrow and the Allen sides have chosen to involve the general public in their family and legal issues. Hopefully this documentary is the last word on their family battles.
I just wanna know what world some of you live in where a man can marry his girlfriends daughter hes been around grooming since she was a teenager and somehow thats just fine. Like the excuses I see some of you making for him doing that are absolutely CRAZY!
Also a lot of people bring up Moses’ abuse accusations but I mean in reality both can be true in fact Mia not being a great mom and some what abusive leans itself to y she didn’t handle the abuse
Boy oh boy. For victims, Mia, Dylan, and Ronin are milking this for their own financial benefit. If they feel so strongly that Woody did this to Dylan, then why don't they take this back to court. Connecticut law allows them to do so. There are witnesses that have stated at the time, that this never happened. Both the court and social services stated that there was no evidence of sexual abuse towards Dylan. When Dylan was interviewed by the court. They stated that she sounded like she was coached. Also, if they feel so strongly that Woody did this and is getting away with it. Why don't they simply take it to court again. Connecticut law allows themto do so. So why don't they?
That’s interesting my only point of reference is the documentary but ur comment definitely makes me want to research and then draw a conclusion
@@chloegardner6336 Yes please do some research. I suggest you take a look at an articular called, "A son speaks out," by Moses Farrow. He was 14 when this,"occured," and was an eyewitness. Also, check out a youtube video called, "By the way, Woody Allen is innocent." It's over two and half hours long. So watch it in segments. Please let us know your thoughts.
@@Shadowsnshades thank u for that I’ll check those out since my original comment I am now down the rabbit hole lol omg this is crazy
They don’t sue him because Dylan is under Mia's thumb and Mia knows that they have no case. Also, go to trial and you have the risk of losing and of public embarrassment. Try it in the media and she has complete control over the narrative.
Thank you for this thought-provoking review. Three key points stood out: how media seeks to shape our opinions, the power dynamics between the adults specifically as it relates to Allen's power, and protecting youth in communities like mine. I know what I would do and believe but hearing men discuss these complexities broadened my perspective. Much to reflect on-thank you.
What expert said that Dylan was coached by Mia?
I think one of the social workers of that Yale-New Haven clinic.
I live in Connecticut and have no problem confirming that yale new heaven is horrible, I had a baby there and I suffer from PTSD due to those people, don't want to get into the details and the details are not similar to this case anyway but they are horrible.
i'm sorry that happened to you. medical "professionals" are not infallible.
@@brookeribet5210 it wasn't a mistake, a mistake I could understand.
@Jacobite Jones nothing yet but I was giving the go ahead to file a law suit.
@@sophieloves7092 you are a liar
Neither Mia Farrow or Woody Allen had any business being around children. I went into this documentary sympathizing with Mia and wanted to know why no one believed her daughter. Sadly, she ended up being one of those reasons. Who the F hears from their child that they have been abused and does not intend to report the abuser? Who calls the abuser to warn them? Who witnesses inappropriate behavior and does not get the authorities involved? Who finds disturbing pictures of their other child and does not call the police immediately? Who gets mad at that child and under-reacts to the abuser? Who still lives is the creepy house where the worst incident of abuse occured? Who... Mia Farrow. I actually came away from this disliking her and feeling really bad for Dylan and the other children.
Not only that, but after she made the allegations she fully intended to work with Woody on his next film, Manhattan Murder Mystery, and even went so far as to call up his office to enquire when and where she should go for the rehearsals!
@@pappy374 That's so sad. What's worse is she doesn't feel bad about it. She actually filmed herself saying she didn't mean to report him.
@@shilohscott There's definitely something very odd about the whole situation. Her lawyer told Woody that she would drop the allegations for a large settlement, which has always struck me as immoral. Likewise, at one point she also said that she thought Woody may be a homosexual and wanted to molest Ronan, but despite that she wrote an affidavit stating that Woody was a loving and wonderful parent when he applied for adoption of Dylan and Moses.
I like your movie analytics very much. Would like you to review older movies too .....would that be an idea?
Yes...we just need to find more time.
I support anyone who must defend themselves of accusations of committing a crime where there is a lack of any physical evidence. Our prisons are filled with innocent people who are not a fortunate as Woody Allen. I find it hopeful that, even after watching a 4 part, very one-sided documentary, you still questioned whether the alleged crime was committed. To convict someone, or even reach a private conclusion of their guilt, there must be corroborating evidence or a proven pattern of behavior. We cannot just "believe the victim" or we risk creating two. Thanks for the review.
Really great job! It's very very creepy that he started an affair & married mia farrow adopted daughter bc he knew her as a little girl. Also do people really think that mia is some hypnotist that she brain washed both her adult kids that made up these memories. Not just Dylan but ronin remembers very inappropriate behavior? Im being serious. I also definitely believe woody is not Ronins dad. I don't know if its sinatra or not but woody looks like he has very strong facial genetics. I know a child could look like one parent completely but ud see something in ronin. Also I think woody maybe shooting blanks bc he adopted kids with soon yi as well. Also could u guys please review the " framing britney spears " doc. Its heartbreaking & makes u very upset & even angry.
@@ke6264 yes in my opinion he is Frank's son. Their is a resemblance not only to mia but Frank as well. Plus I read somewhere that the sinatra family would babysit ronin & had a rekationship. Kinda odd since she & Frank divorced many years before. He is also Mia's only biological child. Almost like if she was gonna have one blood child it was going to be with Frank who I think she still was in love with.
As a psychologist, it is very common for parents to emotionally manipulate their children into believing anything. Don’t forget, Mia Farrow has also been accused of abuse by her adopted children. One committed suicide. He was never found legally guilty, and in my mind is innocent. A creep,but not a child molester
Ronan is not Woods son!!. Put a picture of Frank & Ronan together and its undeniable. Mia was allegedly sleeping with both men around the same time. Ronan is definatley Frank's son. A DNA test should be done. At least for Ronans sake.
@@AshLoRo i read that he confirmed Frank’s Ronan’s son.
There are people defending a person who married his daughter. LMAO 50% of people are below the average IQ so it makes sense
It's so many compromising things here from the adults, and the children always suffer as a result. It's just disheartening to know the children so harshly have to deal with the faults of the adults. It's just so unfair.
Kirby Dick 😂 You guys are awesome! 😁
Everyone in the system isnt as good as their jobs equally. Botched investigation is common.
Look up *'A son Speaks out by Moses Farrow.'* on Internet. I want to know what you think after that.
thank you, i really love how people have taken this film documentary that was written by and narrated by close friends of Mia and Ronana and Dylan, and yet from what i understand no one has talked to Moses who was the teenage son at the home at the time of this, while dylan was 7 and Ronana cant say crap cause he was only 2 or 3 when it happened or didn't happen. and moses and Soon Yi are far more reliable than a 7 year old and a then 2or 3 year old baby.
@@wwozanewmusical both Woody and Mia can be perpetrators.
Moses, Soon Yi and the three young sons and daughters that died BECAUSE OF Mia bad parenting... Well, this "lady" has no credibility for me as she has been a neglected mother all her life adopting children. Not only white lifes matter.
@@xXxFatiishxXx And that is what it very much sounds like. They both aren't all that good. Wish the prosecutor guy let Dylan go thru with it then this all would have been over with. I thought even back then they had the situation set up for children where you can talk in a room on video and some other ways for the child to speak comfortably.
@@marlak4203, Mia drilled it into Dylan & the older kids. She taped Dylan continuously & the experts in the field of all types of child abuse, saw right thru Mia's charade. Hence why no criminal charges were ever issued against Woody in either of 2 states, NY or Connecticut.
I've only been able to find two parts and from what I understand they lived in New York and apartments across Central Park from each other and then she eventually bought a home in Connecticut but the whole relationship was weird
I don’t think it’s weird she had 14 kids what man is going to marry her or want to be in a home with all them people.
1. I just read your t-shirt! Dude, a great homage to Mia and maybe the bigger picture behind her complex issues with Woody(!) and the legal system.
2. I only saw E1 tonight. It’s clear from the home videos and observations that W. was grooming Dylan at some early point. I know firsthand what it’s like to be in denial about a partner’s behavior - it’s scary for a mother.
3. You men would do well to pay closer attention to ALL the objective evidence without preconceived opinions about the individuals involved. I’m glad Mia took so many home videos (watch W’s hands on Dylan!! Ick. ). NOT OKAY!!!
4. Finally - as disturbing as this kind of documentary is - I have to believe that viewers can learn from others’ experiences if they have an open mind. The most important lesson is that everyone of us needs to be more aware and to protect our most innocent and vulnerable people: CHILDREN.
So true. As a women who was abused when I was around eight, I can see my own predator's touches and looks in so many of Allen's with poor Dylan. My heart goes out to her. She deserves to be heard.
I think you should try to follow-up on the 'Train set' allegations by Robert Weide. If it can be proved that there was no trainset, that Moses Farrow was right/the filmmakers have concocted the 'diagram', then that's a huge reason both to distrust this documentary, and poses serious questions for the Farrows.
So selfish of woody to come between a mother and daughter. Mother and daughter now don't talk to each other. Soon yi has had no parents in her life since she was 20.
He did not come between the two of them Mia abused son yi and she wanted out of that house as fast as possible, and the fact that Soon Yi and Woody have been together for 30 soemthingyears has two adopted daughters who don't have any problems, and you rarely see or hear from them unlike Mia and dYLAN AND ronana who's a complete ass hole. Soon Yi hated her mother for her abuse.
@@wwozanewmusical what I mean is they are estranged now, because of woody.
Love the black contrast theme
I think they had his “supporters” in the doc because they wanted to make sure this isn’t a smear campaign. That they acknowledge and want to show how even tho they have lived with this trauma he has inflicted... they’ve all had to live knowing these people and many other STILL supported him throughout.
According to Moses, Mia was the abuser.
@@TheScreamingMime moses just started saying that after woody came back into his life. He consistently told people a diffenrt story his entire life up until then. No other child can back up what he said and there are probable lies in his story as well.
@@conradkorbol Nope, you cannot just say "there are probably lies in his story" without evidence. If you read his primary piece on the matter and other interviews, which provide many, many details, you would know that he was absolutely frightened of his mother. She groomed all of her kids to hate Woody Allen and to fear the consequences if they did not hold the line.
He did not "consistently tell people a different story." You pulled that out of your ass. But even if he did, what I say above is the reason. And the "no other child can back up what he said" is nonsense. Soon Yi has spoken about his mother's abuse of her and of the other non-whit kids, and there are 3 dead adoptive children who are no longer here to tell us what went on in their home.
Regarding the day in question, Moses was the only child there old enough to remember and a lot of his account was already corroborated by the nannies. Much as he pretends to have memories, Ronan Farrow was 4 years old at the time, although over the years he has added years to his age at the time in an effort to sound credible. HE is the one who is a liar. Get the facts before coming to conclusions, but don't just make them up.
@@gmh471 I didn’t pull that one out of my ass watch the documentary on hbo. They talk about his fucking court testimony. When you check the police report guess who has the story that is still consistent with it and was consistent the whole way through? The girl is
It wasn’t Moses. His original story is consistent with it but not his new one. So I didn’t pull it out my ass nice try. All the kids reported the life being awesome including Moses. Then woody allen offers the kids money for changing their stories and guess whose story changes?
Soon Yi was literally molested. Mia admits to hitting soon yi once and no one else reports abuse. Moses didn’t either until money got involved. So much written material that contradicts what Moses is saying.
Now we know for a fact Woody likes teenage girls and it’s pretty obvious he was with soon yi when she was underage and that he manipulated her pretty throughly.
Three dead kids doesn’t really prove anything. Kids have problems and she adopted kids with disabilities and hardships already.
So the fact that the kids with health problems had health problems shouldn’t surprise anyone.
Anyways, it’s pretty obvious Moses sold out
I never had ANYTHING TO DO with HBO since "Leaving Neverland" aired and no I haven't watched the documentary and NEVER WILL but anyway? this is INTERESTING and yes Mia's adopted son Moses claims that Mia was the 1 that was ABUSIVE not Woody so this is confusing, I mean 1 of her bio kids claim that Woody was abusive while 1 of the ADOPTIVE kids claims that it was Mia who was abusive!
Also hasn’t Mia had like two of her kids commit suicide?
@@philippeh3904 Yes, Moses CONFIRMED it in 1 of his videos here on UA-cam!
Regardless Campbell ...I'm with you on the "Leaving Neverland" boycott , I cut Miss Oprah out of my viewing forever around that too
@@philippeh3904 Two committed suicide and one, Tam, died of an overdose. Mia claims her death was accidental and Moses says it was suicide.
@@whatadollslife I cut Oprah off my viewing list too over it, in fact I haven't watched The OWN channel, the Oxygen channel, Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz in 2 years just because of it, my point was Michael's been gone for over a DECADE and yes Robson testified in his trial that NOTHING HAPPENED and now that he SPENT all of his money from "The Wade Robson Project" and "You Got Served"? he needs a NEW SOURCE so I haven't had anything to with Oprah and anything she does in 2 years!
I didn't have a problem with Mia Farrow until she put it out that the son she said was Woody's is actually Frank Sinatra's son. Sinatra's daughter even called him her little brother. You don't lie about who the father is. My father's mother did that to him and messed him up for life.
According to Nancy Sinatra, if that's the daughter you're referring to, she never for a second thought Ronan was her father's child. In fact she was annoyed at Mia for saying that, and says it was a joke on Mia's part. A bad joke but a joke.
@@Catbooks But Ronan looks exactly like Sinatra.
off topic but where can I find that "All of Them Witches" shirt? Thanks!
Redbubble.com
Omg, I saw a trailer for this doc-series today & I forgot that another child then was involved in the hot mess. I knew something about Woody’s current wife/step-daughter situation and the writer/brother of Dylan, Ronan Farrow’s story with Mr. Allen. Thanx for early review. I don’t have HBO, so I’m not gonna see this. I hope I can rent it & see it later👍🏼👍🏼📼📰
I remember as a teen (who at that point had had several step fathers myself) being completely grossed out by Allans relationship with his step daughter. And I was pretty sure, that must have been some serious grooming going on.
But I didn't realize that there was other allegations within the family. - Well, other than the usual dysfunctional fighting of a really ugly divorce.
@@hildajensen6263 SOON YI was not his step daughter. he was never married to Mia. In fact, she is not even Mia's biological daughter. This is something that many people cannot get straight.
And I wonder why people can't get into their heads that a marriage doesn't mean a lot in that situation.
And that Soon Yi was adopted definitely doesn't mean a thing.
By being Mia's boyfriend and the father of Soon Yi's younger siblings, Woody Allen had access to her and been an authority figure in her life, since she was 8 years old. For all intent and propose, he was a stepfather.
@@hildajensen6263 I have corrected your assertion that Woody was her step father and you refuse to acknowledge your error. Both woody and soon yi have stated that there was never a father-step daughter relationship. He was not really an authority figure as you put it. He and Mia never shared a home. Soon yi's adoptive father is/was Andre Previn.
@@jv-ep2tc Of course they will say that. They know that their relationship was / is socially unacceptable. So they are putting a positive spin on it.
Still don't change the fact that it's a nasty thing to start a relationship with your girlfriends underaged and very inexpirenced daughter.
Besides, everyone I know and have ever spoken to about such things, have called any person in the family position, that Allen was in regarding Soon Yi, a step parent.
Pedofilia seems to be very common in Hollywood. I'll be watching and thank you for your review.
Pedophilia is common everywhere
Love your channel, first video and already subscribed! I think both Mia and Woody are weird period. How she didn't care if he was part of the life of the children and how he said he didn't mind fathering a child and not being involved then marrying someone who you usually see as a step child. They are just both weird and I don't know. Both sides sound credible. She could've coached her and he could've abused her. They both aren't farfetched ugh
the man married his daughter and your iffy on who's side to join? What is wrong with this country
@@munchmacuchi7502 it's not his biological child tho. It's weird but she was an adult and not related to him at all thats why I say that.
@E Boston call it what you want but if you dating someone and get married those kids that are yours make someone legally considered the step parent
@E Boston I said dating and married. As in dating, married, divorced etc as in multiple situations. The fact you were around a woman when she was growing up and saw her develop and go through puberty etc then decide you want to be with her after she is of legal age is just crazy. He was dating her MOTHER and they spent intimate times together while she was still living in the home
@@munchmacuchi7502He did NOT marry his daughter.
great review! cool shirt Joseph :) do you gentlemen think you'll review "Behind Her Eyes" ?
Love you guys
Dylan Farrow has until her 48th birthday to pursue a civil case against Woody Allen. This will (of course) subject her claims to legal scrutiny and charges of perjury if she makes false statements. I do not think she will EVER file a case. Draw your own conclusions from that.
There were explicit pictures taken by Woody of Soon-yi found by Mia. Woody was caught with his head in Dylan's lap and she was found to not be wearing underwear later that day. These are undisputed facts. On the other hand Mia is overbearing with that video camera. Recording Dylan when she broke up with her boyfriend. That struck me as very uncomfortable. That is not normal parental behavior. There was some weird shit going on there.
This world wicked as hell
Holy shit. If you make a kid tell the same damn story 13 times then on course it’s gonna sound rehearsed by round 13. Because you’ve been rehearsing her!
yah this is a tough one. I dont know either to side with the people accusing woody allen of molesting children or the guy who married his daughter. Real tough.
I believe the child. Children DO NOT make up this stuff!
@@LaniAnne402 I believe her, too. I just can’t believe whoever it was that would have the nerve to repeatedly interrogate a kid and then go “ I don’t know, it sounds rehearsed.”
Wait. Did he sue for custody of Moses and Dylan...but not Ronan?
You feel conflicted because he's a good predator. Bad predators don't make you feel that.
She can take him to Civil court until she’s 48….
I'm not doubting Dylan's account, but my God what an ANNOYING off putting, self absorbed victim. Cashing in her abuse for likes, views and followers....What a gross society we've become.
Victims of crime can often be unlikeable, but they still are victims.
@@cremetangerine82 And in many many cases the victims become the victimizers
@@TheOpenSociety777
It still doesn’t negate the status that they were once victims, and of course, it is not an excuse. We have such a trouble and just talking about normal sexuality that we are completely handicapped in the ability to understand sexual abuse. Woody Allen was sexually inappropriate and should be called out for it, not matter how great as comedian/writer/director he is.
@@cremetangerine82 The age of consent should NOT be lowered to 12 yrs as you have advocated for. (See I can also attribute things to you that you've never said, then remark on this straw man)
I'm not doubting Dylan's account, but my God what an ANNOYING off putting, self absorbed victim. Cashing in her abuse for likes, views and followers....What a gross society we've become.
@@TheOpenSociety777
I am *not* advocating for the age of consent to be lowered to 12 years old, it needs to stay at 18 years old. I am *NOT* an apologist for sexual abusers, so don’t get that twisted.
All I am saying is it’s completely normal to have someone who is very unlikable but could have been abused at some point.
3 & 1/2 out of 5 stars? That sounds like it has good entertainment value.
I just watched the first episode. And I think you did a great review. I am not positive but I probably will watch the other episodes. Everyone is going to have their own opinion but I’m inclined to believe the seven-year-old girl over Woody Allen. She would have no reason to lie but he would because if the charges are true And A jury convicted him he would lose his freedom and his career. Dylan kept saying that she thought the situation was just the way daughters and fathers were as she didn’t really have anything to compare it with and that is the problem with young children experiencing abuse they don’t know the word rape or sex or concepts of sexual abuse so they’re very limited in the words they have to use to explain it and And the grownups who abuse them - especially if they or their parents - have absolute power over the children’ so The kids really don’t have a chance to voice their truth in a way most adults can understand, not at age 7. it just seems very real to me that this happened to her. I myself am a survivor of childhood physical and sexual abuse.
After you watch it watch Woody is Innocent by Rick Worley on UA-cam. Then you'll have 2 sides available to make an informed decision.
@@rl12345 Sorry he is not innocent. No normal man has a 7 year old suck his thumb. Priming her for the next digit.
@@PhyllisMN26 Interesting how this "incriminating" piece of evidence was never ever mentioned to the therapists by Mia. Interesting how the "thumb sucking" was never mentioned by Mia or any other witness in the court trial. Interesting how it never came up in Mia's autobiography. The claim only appeared in the 2013 Vanity Fair article, the same article that couldn't be fact-checked so Mia had to sign a document saying it was the truth from "her point of view"...also known as Mia's opinion. Woody denies the thumb sucking claim and Moses Farrow backs him saying he never saw such behavior.
@@rl12345 there is so much evidence that he did. Sorry, you are simply wrong
@@conradkorbol ua-cam.com/video/muyaCg2dGAk/v-deo.html
Gentlemen, congratulations on a thoughtful piece on the documentary series. I'm a fan of Allen's work and of Farrow's acting (both with and without Allen). My reading of the case, which I have followed since the scandal broke in 1992, is that he did not molest Dylan Farrow in an attic in August 1992, although I think she sincerely believes that to be the case today. But I think you handled the material in an evenhanded and considerate way.
The only thing I want to pick a bone with is that May/December romances are not as much of a fixation in Allen's writing as they're made out to be. There's nothing like that in Radio Days, Zelig, Manhattan Murder Mystery, Broadway Danny Rose, Sweet and Lowdown, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Match Point, Alice, Blue Jasmine, Vicky Cristina Barcelona, etc. Very often, the female lead in films in which he personally acted was someone not all *that* much younger than he (Ms. Farrow, Diane Keaton, and his second wife Louise Lasser account for a lot of films among the three of them, and they're all within ten years of him). It's true that in Manhattan and Husbands and Wives, one of the two love interests for his character is a teenager, but however we feel about the appropriateness of middle-aged people and teenagers, I can't make a "therefore" conclusion about his having a sexual interest in a seven-year-old. So I think the most virulently anti-Allen contingent has tried to make too much of that.
PS - I loved the "All of Them Witches" T-shirt!
Can't stand his movies or him. It always irked me that his favourite curse word in his movies was Jesus Christ. Very disrespectful from a Jewish person.
However, Blue Jasmine and Wonder Wheel have crazy vindictive women who are the villains. Coincidence?
Crazy and vindictive is a bit reductive for the character in Blue Jasmine, who is an attempted update on Blanche Dubois. She's unstable and makes bad decisions, but I don't think she's unsympathetic.
Allen has made about 50 films, and most have had prominent roles for female actors. Inevitably when someone is that prolific, there will be characters who remind us of ones we've already met, but I don't think he leans too much on a particular type of woman. He's written women who are poised and controlled (Gena Rowlands in Another Woman, Mia Farrow in Zelig), clingy and desperate (Anjelica Huston in Crimes and Misdemeanors), tough and foul-mouthed (Judy Davis in Husbands and Wives, Farrow in Broadway Danny Rose), imperious and theatrical (Dianne Wiest in Bullets Over Broadway), seemingly ditzy but with surprises (Farrow in Radio Days), seemingly ditzy with no surprises (Jennifer Tilly in Bullets Over Broadway), seriously mentally ill (Charlotte Rampling in Stardust Memories), bawdy yet nurturing (Maureen Stapleton in Interiors), bawdy and not at all nurturing (Elaine Stritch in September)...
@@simonboccanegra3811 All of those characters are pre Allen vs. Farrow. I can't verify that all his other female characters follow the same reductive trope because after watching those two movies, I lost interest in him as a storyteller and film maker.
@@ginapiroli6136 Bullets was a little after the split and the scandal. But I was just naming ones I was most familiar with. Allen's movies of the 21st century generally aren't as good as those of his peak period (through about '94), so I haven't seen all of them.
However, I get it if -- on artistic grounds -- he just isn't someone's cup of tea. That can be said of even the best filmmakers. I struggle with Fellini, although there are some Fellini movies I do like.
This video makes me very sad. I am conviced Woody Allen is innocent. If they had something why do a documentary? The guys is accused to have mollested his daughter. Once! One very day! Nothing before, nothing since ! Com'on!
Especially because of Manhattan it's not hard to see Allen involved with an underage teenager.
(Read it was based on a real relationship with a teenage actress, but that the age of consent in New York
or NYC at the time was 16 or 17, so it wasn't illegal.)
But there's a big difference between 17 & 7.
The world may never know🤔😢
For those of us who were actually aware when these events went down, the whole Soon Yi business was on its face strange, and I had a great deal of sympathy for Farrow. But then when she pulled out the the molestation stuff it seemed like a desperate attempt at revenge. The timing alone was fishy. 7 year-old Dylan even said on the ride to an interview with one of the Yale psych social workers 'daddy didn't to anything' (which probably earned her a good hiding that night since it has since come to light that that was Mia's MO).
None of this comes out in this highly biased, sensationalist, and ratings seeking account. Nothing about how Farrow had ended their romantic relationship five years prior to the Soon Yi incident. Nothing about Farrow's three dead adoptees (2 by suicides, 1 by overdose). Nothing about Moses and Soon Yi's accounts of their distressed and abusive childhoods. Nothing about brother John incarcerated in Maryland on multiple counts of child molestation. The family of John Farrow and Maureen O'Sullivan were dysfunctional even by Hollywood standards!
And of course there's nothing about Mia herself, how she forced Soon Yi's company on Allen (who had no idea who she was) in an effort to get her to come out of her shell. How she would accept potential adoptees out on approval and send them back to squalor if they didn't fit. And then the impossibly sordid Dory Previn story. Mia sought out Previn's friendship with the hidden agenda of seducing her husband. This is a person perfectly capable of brainwashing or bullying a child into saying what she wants to hear in exchange for her parsimonious affection. Not a nice person.
Had Allen never met Soon Yi, Mia might very likely be the subject of Mommy Dearest 2.0
Yes, but Dylan is *grown* now, old enough to tell THE TRUTH. And she has.
@@widowrumstrypze9705 Dylan's truth changes every time she states it.
Yes! It's so infuriating that people who are just now hearing this story are hearing it from the perspective of the malignant narcissist mother. Mother Mia, the Saintly Madonna like "protective" parent. Anyone who knows this story, and who understands covert narcissism.....is sickened by this portrayal of Mia as an innocent victim !!! She is a monster.
Woody Allen is innocent. Mia Farrow should be jailed for children abuse and slander. Dylan should get professional help. And Ronan.. he really needs to stop with plastic surgery.
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@@fishjellyfilmreviews I believe in fair trial, you apparently in gossip and lynch mob.
I think you need more fiber in your diet.
@@fishjellyfilmreviews Yeah, probably. Thank you for your concern. Here is more of Mia: observer.com/2015/01/mia-farrow-apparently-finds-family-pics-by-googling-mia-farrow-her-black-children/
Just out of sheer curiosity how could you guys see all 4 episodes? I can only find the first 2 ;)
We received screening links.
@@fishjellyfilmreviews Thanks for answering :)
I’m watching this again, because it was so good the first time! 💫
There is no one who can convince me Woody Allen didn't groom that girl!
Woody and Mia both lived in New York, across the park from one another. Mia had a vacation home in Connecticut. Mia was a being responsible parent by not living with Woody without being married. Good thing that she didn’t.
Mia - stayed with best friend, who was married to Previn and pregnant.
Mia started affair with Previn who divorced Wife and married Mia. They split up after Ronan was born, rumoured as a result of affair with Sinatra.
Woody - one accusation, in long Hollywood career. Listen to Moses say what an evil mother Mia was
@@jeffbrunton3291 Rowan Farrow is Woody’s son. Mia & Andre Previn were long divorced. Andre is The father of Mia’s eldest twin sons, SunYi, and 2 other daughters.
just got to know your channel! congrats to you both boys! btw how cute of a couple are you
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I really enjoyed this.
I am so ready to see this.
I came away from this documentary thinking that both Mia and Woody are nuts and I don’t think either one of them was good for any of the children they adopted or had. Mia‘s Asian adopted son has come out in support of Woody and multiple children of Mia’s, that she adopted, have committed suicide and Mia Farrow’s brother was convicted of child sexual assault and sentenced to 10 years in prison.
You guys even seem uncomfortable talking about this. It was an uncomfortable watch. But I think it's a story that needs to be told. I remember seeing this news story around 12 and not fully getting it but knew the Sun-Yi thing was a bit weird. Expose Evil and detect it before it can come your way in another form. I was never a fan.
The problem with this is the commentators the Host dont seem concise and to the point ,its like they are talking to each other across the dinner table and giving opinions .
Mission accomplished