You don't put an apostrophe on "Victorys" and "Harleys" (And I know the plural for "Victory" is "Victories" I'm just emulating what you wrote.) I know I'm a grammar Nazi.
I have a couple friends that have Harleys. I never really wanted a bike. One friend had (at the time) 3 Harleys and said he'd sell me one. I wasn't looking for a bike. One evening I say a bike, my mouth dropped, did not know what it was, saw it was a Victory...said to myself 'I've Never Heard of a Victory...owner came out of the business he was parked at. We talked..at length. (He rides the very bike you are showing...and said. 'I can sell you a bike...') Short story -- my first bike is a 2007 Victory Kingpin 100 cubic inches. I'm 65yo.
Bow Hunter I was bumming around on a Saturday afternoon and wondered into a Victory dealership out of boredom. 20 minutes later I’m signing papers for a new 2012 Kingpin. I had a little trail bike when I was a kid and a buddy loaned me his Suzuki Intruder for a week in school, but this was first real motorcycle and it saved my life. I was struggling with depression and teaching myself to ride it gave me a challenge to face and an activity to get me out of the house on weekends. 26K smiles on it and still have it!
Never happen because Polaris is too into their Indian line. I feel they were different enough that they could’ve kept both. Really liked the Victory bikes.
@@sokodad Dont get a Victory. They have a weak point! 5 dollar gear retaining clips in the transmission break! Don't catch it in time the engine will lock up up, end of engine end of you. Catch it in time and full strip down required. Steer clear. My judge went at 17k. Many reports of them going. Don't risk it, you've been warned. Best looking production bike ever though.
@@matoko123 - Yep! Just turned 91,000 miles on my Victory Jackpot, and the transmission started acting up along with it making an ungodly noise when in neutral and leaned over to the left. Mechanic said the C clip in the tranny either came loose or broke. Being that the tranny is part of the engine means that in order to repair it, you must remove the engine and split the case. Was going to run about 5 grand to repair IF no gears were messed up in the tranny. Any other problem found could easily add another grand or so as parts are already hard to find. Ended up selling the bike "as-is" to someone who was looking at fixing it themselves and I went out and bought a Big Dog K9 motorcycle.
bought my Victory... all my friends have Harleys.. My bike has spent more time waiting for HD's at dealerships to be fixed on long trips, i been across the states couple times, never had any problems. And i do not baby my bike at all lol
61 k on my crosscountry tour , Love this damn bike, 8 " more legroom than the ultra and corners like a dream. Too bad , they were just catching on. Ride on !
@@silinusvers no comparison in leg room. Nothing rides like a Vic. Try and ride the two bikes back to back and you will throw rocks at the HD guy trying to sell you the bike lol
@@silinusvers ---> I have ridden the Road Glide and now own a Victory Cross Country tour which is the same bike as the Cross Country, but with heated seats, grips, cruise control, crash bar lowers. All of the Cross Country bikes have 18-inch floorboards and you have more legroom than you have riding a Harley Road Glide.
I love the look and style of the Victory bikes but I tend to hang to my bikes forever and that 10 year cut-off for parts would be weighing on my mind every time I rode the bike. Too bad Polaris couldn't just keep manufacturing Victory bikes alongside Indians. I like both.
I've ridden Victory, a very nice bike that created a niche for itself by being unpretentious. I've ridden an Indian, which seemed to be a renamed Victory trying to be something it wasn't. STILL.... Both were nice bikes and if it suits you, awesome! Go get one and ride it! I think most of the criticism of Harley-Davidson has nothing to do with the motorcycles themselves. The beef is either with the buying demographic and their attitude toward "infidels", or with the dealers and their greediness at the bargaining table. I ride a Road King, but I try to avoid stereotypes. I ride in full protective riding gear with a full face helmet. I ride with all kinds of other folks and their chosen brands because not everyone in my riding organization buys Harley. We insist on the "Planet Fitness" method of getting along, the "Judgement Free Zone". I love seeing all kinds of motorcycles in our group rides. It makes me wish I owned every one of them!
I have an 04 Kingpin in purple thunder. I love it as much today as I did when I rolled it off the showroom. To this day I get thumbs up when I go out for a spin. I'm 69, been riding since I was 15 and have 5 other bikes of varying size and style. My Vic is still my favorite.
Oh man. That's basically my dream bike right there! I always love Victory's because they have a big v-twin with overdrive, have a lower CG and are just lower to the ground for us shorties, and they look clean and modern. I'll never understand why every other v-twin on the market either looks unchanged since 1953 and looks just like every other v-twin ever made, oooorr they've got a wee little pizza cutter way up on the next county which makes them handle like a bloated walrus.
I just bought a 2014 Victory Cross Roads. It has 5700 miles and is in showroom condition. Price: $7400. I'll be 77 when they quit making parts for it. For now, I'm loving this bike!!!
Had many many bikes, my 2003 Victory Classic Cruiser is the Best Bike I ever owned, handled Great, nimble as hell for a Big bike, my had the 92 with 100ci factory update kit, full bagger that is so comfortable to ride all day, Victory went under but I will always own one as long as I ride, easy to work on if ever needed, much more Reliable than any Harley, and way more value for the buck, harley way overpriced Name Bike, but hey what ever makes you happy and Victory is it for me.
Victory screwed over all the people who bought them by shutting down. Now Polaris thinks I will buy an Indian??? No way. Not from a manufacturer that walks away from its customers.
How did they walk away? They're still manufacturing parts, honoring warranties and repairing victory's. They just quit making new bikes. That's not walking away. That's re focusing their efforts on a brand that has a better chance.
My local Victory dealer was in the top 5 in the country. They were given NO notice. They were just told that they weren't a "new" bike dealer anymore. They said "no problem, we will just sell Indians". Nope. Polaris didn't grant them permission to be an Indian dealer. No loyalty at all from Polaris. They will make Victory parts for awhile, but eventually they will not support them.
@@quinnjim Wait so you think Polaris screwed you over because they opted not to take on your victory dealer as an Indian dealer? Also 10 years of committed support after discontinuing the brand isn't enough? That's above and beyond. Come on. They run a business they did what they had to do to stay profitable nothing more nothing less. You're just being butthurt for no reason.
I never said that Polaris screwed me over. Try not to put words in my mouth. They screwed one of their top dealers over, which says a LOT about who they are.
@@quinnjim you specifically said they screwed over the people that bought them. You put those words in your mouth LMAO. Did you even read your own comment before that reply? I'm sorry I assumed you had purchased one since you referred to your victory dealer. I.e. They screwed you over. Are you daft?
I owned a '14 Cross Country Tour, a '10 VTX 1800 T, and a '10 Street Glide, at the same time. I wholeheartedly preferred the CCT. The handlebars didn't vibrate my hands to sleep. The stock seating position was much better with large floorboards to put your feet in more comfortable locations. Massive luggage area in the bags. Great BiG GOBS of torque. Smooth engine. There wasn't anything NOT to appreciate. Sadly traded it for a Slingshot, hindsight mistake. If I ever find another CCT in my price range, I'm jumping on it and doing the trike conversion (bad leg prevents safe stops on a 2 wheeler).
Man I rode a cross country a couple weeks ago that a guy I work with has, I've always ridden sport bikes, my last bike was an 07 R1. That victory was awesome, can't wait to buy one. It was so easy to ride, doesn't feel like a big bagger at all
I’ve been hooked on Victory motorcycles for over 5 years now. I’ve owned other brands but nothing else compares. Best bike for the money. Amazing style, great comfort, outstanding performance, low cost of maintenance. TTWFO
One thing puts HD over Victory is that if HD shuts its doors today, I will be able to build a new one from scratch with aftermarket parts for the next 100 years....In ten years there will be NO Victory aftermarket.
I'll be building my Victory for years to come with used parts after new are no longer available. it's a non issue unless you are going for complete aftermarket upgrades.Harley has those big time. That said I've modified my Victory Hammer extensively.
John Garrison - That is a stupid reason, i still find parts for my 1948 Indian Chief. I still find parts for my 2003 Indian Chief, Victory is a far superior bike to H-D and you will still find parts in 20+ years. I own 8 bikes right now and not a single 1 if a H-D. Harley is crap compared to Indian, Victory and Yamaha which is why H-D sales keep dropping year after year after year. I very recently almost bought a 2016 H-D SGS, i decided i wanted a touring bike and i looked at the Indian Chieftain, H-D SGS and because i didn't like how forward the controls are on the Chieftain and was leaning towards the SGS. I was telling a friend and he said before you pull the pin and get the 2016 H-D SG, he said has a friend selling a 2016 Victory magnum i should check out, i am familiar with the Victory branch because i have a 2007 Victory Jackpot. He called up his buddy and we drove down to see the Magnum, it was mint and gorgeous, lots of upgrades including full stage 1 pipes and air intake along with an ECU tuner. I took it out for a ride and OMG, feels, handles and looks better than the SGS,. I fell in love with the 2016 magnum that has only 4000 miles on it and still under warranty until 08/2019. The H-D hard 0 warranty, more miles and not even close on the upgrades and was $7500 more. I bought the 2016 Victory Magnum and having it delivered on February 2nd.
Aww man. If my daughter wasn't driving age, and her Christmas present being out in the driveway.... I'd be all over that sweet ride. I LIKE being different.
Harley does make some beautiful bikes. Ive come to own two Victory motorcycles. I wouldn't trade them for any Harley. That's not a knock against Harley either. I love the stretched tanks on the Vic's, I also prefer the freedom 106 which has proven to be Superior to any other hd engine. Polaris screwed up and badly mismanaged that brand. I wish they were still in business.
I really liked Victory's modern take on cruiser design. If ever I was going to own a cruiser, Victory had my interest. I was just never in the market for one when they were being made and when I finally got in the market for a new bike, they were no longer available. What a shame. I can understand why Polaris started producing Indian motorcycles and can understand why they didn't want to support two competing brands. Seems to me they'd be smart to keep all the Victory designers and engineers and sell Victory product under the Indian banner. The Indian badge for the classic styling and a Victory badge for the modern styling, all under one company.
Too many roosters in the henhouse, I get it. But I can't see the advantage of only going head to head with Harley. The modern performance oriented styling hit the younger demographic in spades(something Harley has ruined for all young riders looking into cruisers with "retro" styling)
I have a 2016 Victory Gunner that I’ve put nearly 40k on since I rode it off the showroom floor. The next bike I buy will be a Victory regardless of them being shutdown by polaris. When the day comes I can no longer keep them on the road I’ll go back to Harley. At least I have faith they will still be around making motorcycles by then.
I am on my second victory. My first one was an 03 V92 classic. My oldeat son now has that bike. I put 120,000 on that thing, and other than consumable parts, that bike has had nothing done to it. I now have a '11 crossroads. LOVE IT!!!
For your sake, I hope that was a "no way". Not that the Vic isn't a nice bike, but dude... You're gonna have issues getting support. And the aftermarket supply is going to dry up.
How is it that HD riders want to be seen as "an out there minority" yet they all ride the same looking bikes and all dress the same? Its almost a uniform. That is a nice bike. Too bad they killed that line.
I ride a Harley trust me I don't dress like the typical Harley rider but that's also like saying every sports bike looks the same the ninjas look like the GSXR that look like the cbr's
I may dress like a typical Harley owner but my bike is one of a kind. You couldn’t tell me for one moment that all Harleys look the same, that’s just how they come from factory. Just like every other manufacturer.
upside downdog aftermarket intake and exhaust with a tune. Factory bulbs for turn signals and brake. Aftermarket yellow bulb for headlight. $600 in miscellaneous matching parts like my primary cover, headlight cover, brake reservoir covers, etc. Got myself a seat, new shift lever, new grips, new clutch and brake levers, new plug wires to match my tank. All of that plus so much more on what’s already a badass 48 Sportster. Nice try tho 🤙🤙
@@killer44spl well, to me sportsbikes clearly dont all look alike. To a degree yes but the fireblade, the older one, 2014, has a veeeery different face than a Yamaha r1. Thing is. Im not a sportsbike guy. I like wide handlebars. But. On one hand I'd want my fairing to be in flipflock paint and all individual.... But that gets you caught for speeding very easily....
I think Victory will be something unique in the future. Maybe something akin to a Norton as far as some good memories for people and that what if capturing imagination.
I recently found your channel looking for videos on the Yamaha Road Star. I realized you are selling these motorcycles, hence a sales channel. My last ride was a 2000 Victory V92C and am now thinking about getting another ride. After seeing your videos on the Road Star I would consider one over getting a Harley, mainly because of the price (and sadly the reliability). Although this Victory looks pretty sweet.
I just bought a second Cross Country a few months ago. I have two Anit Feeze Green ones and on Black/blue Vision. I have been riding bikes over 50 years (66) and plan on riding till I drop or can't anymore. I've own all the major brands...NOTHING compares to the Victory: I'm not worried one bit about parts, I have no problem getting them and FRANKLY: the fun will be creating new systems from newer technology. These bikes are BEYOND good looking....I get stares and people asking to take pics all the time...GREAT BIKES..
Victory and Indians are built for bigger riders. If your 6 foot or taller you would be much more comfortable on these bikes. Finding parts is getting expensive and hard to find. But these Victories are a deal if your looking for a big bike with lower cost. Harley’s are nice but they are built for smaller people. Don’t believe me, just look at the floor boards.
What's the difference between a old dog and Harley Davidson? The Old Dog can get into the back of a pickup by itself!! I have a Victory Hammer best bike I've owned I replaced the clutch so posted the part# and special tools required if there's any Victory owners needing a manual its in my description too!
I’m glad you mentioned that 92 models aren’t recommended. I just found one that looked really sharp and priced at $3200. I was strongly thinking about buying it until I researched it. Thanks you probably saved me a ton of headaches and buyer’s remorse. Ride safe and stay off the paint.
I could never stand harley fanboys/purists...esp when they try and argue that their bikes dont leak or their part are outsorced to asian countries for manufacturing victory won me over years ago when I saw how they build/run their engines and create more stable power , output and performance/maintenance reliability.
I was going go with street glide and I went with 2013 victory cross country few days ago.... hope next few years or by 2027 someone will pick victory up and start making them again
They are owned by Polaris. Polaris pretty much shut them down to focus on the Indian brand. The new Indian challenger definitely looks like a new victory.
The cross country is PERFECT for tall guys 6 feet and over. Most room I ever felt on a motorcycle at 6’2. It is literally a recliner on 2 wheels. I wasn’t even interested in victory until I sat on one just for fun and I was like WOW this feels good! Unfortunately they were pretty much as expensive new and used as the Harley’s and I couldn’t afford either. I will say the victory engine is nice. It’s got great midrange and top end unlike a Harley or Kawasaki big twin. My Kawasaki 1600 falls flat on its face when the Rpms get up there and just abruptly stops pulling. The victory keeps pulling no matter how high the revs
Sean Kerr, I remember the 2006 Kingpin you had that your sold for only $5k. I was hoping my money came in fast enough back then to get that bike. They was a cool bike!
Still lovin my 2016 Victory Vision. I knew Victory line was being shut down when I bought it, but had been enthralled with the vision since walking by one on the dealers showroom floor in 2009. Victory engines and trannys are near bulletproof, so I likely have many more miles to put on it. I am still bummed out Polaris ended the line. Support for the line was committed for 10 years, that was from 2018 I think. There are a lot of good motorcycles out there, but I still like my Victory.
Damn dude, I was restarting my headphones, restarting my phone etc.. trying to figure out wtf was wrong. Scrolled to the comments to see if I was the only one, took forever but finally saw yours. Phew...
I'm a young rider from England, and I bought a 08 Vegas 8ball a few months back, it definitely has a few issues but I love this bike. Though once the parts become rare I'll just slowly swap harley parts in 🤷♂️
Dude. I almost bought the 2012 in 2015. I loved the ride and feel but the biggest difference to me was the value. My harley was a few thousand more but the cross country had zero real chrome. All plastic covers. I watched your unedited 2nd half. Don't pay $300 to map a bike. You can get a new tuner for that.
Ps Took the HD out today in cold wet weather Dyna Street bob with 16" apes and it made me feel better than not taking it out. Result. Big smile on my face ;)
I love my 2016 Victory Crossroads 8ball. The people I ride with are on Harleys. The performance of the Victory IMHO is better than the Harley. There are two things that I wish victory had done differently; the gas tank doesn't seem to fit a fuel nozzle properly and it's often a pain in the but to fill the tank. Also, the stock pipes make it sound a little anemic and it doesn't properly represent the true power of this beast.
Да такая же у нас истеричная любовь в Харлеям=) Я всерьёз заглядывают на Vegas, но точно знаю, что пока сам не попробуешь, никакие советы не помогут выбрать то, что действительно твоё! Удачи на дорогах!
I like how you said they are different and unique I guess I am just a diehard Harley man. Just not a fan of their look. Interesting seeing and hearing it run. Price seems a lot better.... i also agree Harley's colors haven't grabbed me until recently I test drove a Blue Max SG I drove it home ;-)
Hey I fell in love with the Daytona Blue on my 14 Rushmore limited, never seen the color blue pop that way, as for reliability I have 53000 miles on it and only had it in for routine maintenance. Guess I am crazy but I love HD's
I'm from England, and my local bike shop actually stocks a lot of Victory's, which is quite rare because I never see them here. Is it an issue repairing them, considering they are no longer in production?
Victory is a better than Harley in design and 0ower and comfort. The sad thing about Polaris is they had no heart and didn't realize what they have so they close Victory. I would have bought a Victory Cross Roads if they would have stayed open. All the Victory dealers around me in cities all around were not passionate and some of them are jerks. Walk into their Victory store and it acts like it kills them to have you in there as a customer. I was never a Harley-Davidson fan but Battle Creek Harley-Davidson always treated you a good when you want next door. They won me over as I bought me a Road King Classic. I love Victory motorcycles! The Kingpin is one of my all time favorite bikes ever. I would like to see someone buy Victory from Polaris and take them to the next level.
@ I am one that likes all bikes so I think they are all cool. Honda makes sweet bikes. I like Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki, Victory, Harley, Indian, they are all cool bikes to me.
Baird's Bikes Videos wasn't the main reason Victory was shutdown was because they (Polaris) did not want compete with to put a dent in Indian sales? Basically compete against them selves.
@@johnanderson9735 It might be. Not sure. I know the Victory fans that loved Victory were not Indian fans at all. I always liked Indian. The Chief I always thought was cool looking. When I contacted Polaris online before, they said Victory didn't sell a whole lot. I was arguing with them because of their lack of passion for their product in my area of Victory dealers. When the dealers act like it kills them if you walk into their store to look around, that is a bad way to push your product. Victory motorcycles are sweet! Just needed more passion in their product in my opinion.
@@68weebee I agree on the lack of passion, Victory's are nice bikes. If I had enough cash, and my wife would approve, I would have one my favorites from each line of bikes (two is the limit right now, I was talking about #3 and I got 'No you don't need three!' my daughter chimed in as well LOL).
I disagree, I liked the Victory similar to the one in this vid but after riding it and riding the Harley Street glide, I was greatly disappointed in the Victory, the Harley was much smoother and more maneauverable. But to each his own.
@@troydolan9223 lol....they don't have to legally provide anything. If you're buying into them still providing anything but basic rebuild parts in the next 5-years, or so, I've got some nice Florida swamp land you might be interested in as well.
I have ridden all types of motorcycle, but In my opinion Victory is the way to go. My 2013 vegas 8-ball has more power and torque than my brothers 2015 fatboy. Very dependable bike.
I'm know I'm a couple years late but I'm putting together me and my dad putting together a motorcycle shop Pitch Black Riders two-wheel costume I would love for y'all to come through kill of the UA-camrs that got bikes come through
I have a friend that has a victory and it seems like he is always making excuses why it's "just as cool as a harley", almost like insecure about it...strange. P.S I like those gloves but i would never buy them, that zipper flapping around my paint is not going to happen
Back in the old days, you could buy a Jeep or you could buy a Scout(International), and everywhere you went, you would be defending your decision "They're just as good as a Jeep." Well, they really weren't , and their pickups really sucked too, and they don't make either one now, but you can build a Jeep out of a catalogue, same as a Harley.
Eh. Harley is so much of a cult brand not so unlikely that one would feel insecure perhaps. Unless you d buy not a cruiser but a monster like a Yamaha mt 01which, combining a big v2 with a sporty chassis is like what Harley never tried and buell just kinda did but with issues.
I have some kind of curse…owned a Saab it went out of business…owned a Honda Element…it was discontinued…buy a Victory and they went belly up in ‘18. Ugh…
Look I love Indian and all but part of me wishes Polaris would of just kept the victory line! I love the way they look, the performance was great. Harley Davidson just stays behind the times on a lot of things compared to other brands and their performance don’t match the price tag
@@intrudergrid9530 points of is discussion were on that post it note, the words of wisdom note was the one he moved to the tank. I really don't think he was trying to hide anything.
I have a friend who has a Scout. Fine bike indeed. And Indian is working hard to gain Harley owners. And, certainly succeeding when Harley pulls one of their notorious "it ain't our problem, even if we designed it or created it" stunts. I like how they designed a bad engine... denies their is a problem, and then sells a "Screaming Eagle" kit designed to upgrade and fix that very problem. For a mere $700 plus labor. My middle finger always finds it's way into the air at those moments. Still, I love my Harley. Maybe it's the shake at idle. Or the sound of that exhaust. Or, maybe even the therapy in wiping off the dripping chrome after a wash. Who knows what causes this empty wallet sickness.
You always give good info love those bikes nice style and reliable .😁think I'm gona get one soon later might be harder to find thanks you make me Wana get one
Dont get a Victory. They have a weak point! 5 dollar gear retaining clips in the transmission break! Don't catch it in time the engine will lock up up, end of engine end of you. Catch it in time and full strip down required. Steer clear. My judge went at 17k. Many reports of them going. Don't risk it, you've been warned. Best looking production bike ever though.
I always want to like Victory more than I do. They had a few models that I liked a lot, and a bunch of others that look like a bottle of Axe body wash. I could do without the lame tribal and flame graphics and obnoxious color schemes. But I do like the engines.
Just got a 2017 Chieftain Darkhorse, love the bike. The ride is smooth. The power is awesome. I doubt Polaris will stop making Indian motorcycles. Indian motorcycles were out selling the victory line so that's why that line was cut. I will get a victory magnum to have along side the Darkhorse.
@@totocall1999 Polaris made a corporate decision. Victory was started to be direct competition to HD. The Indian line cut more into Harley sales then Victory ever could. Polaris wasn't going to compete against itself for the same customers. Indian Motorcycles, *(using Victory R&D), has produced 4 motors, (Thunderstroke 111, Scout Powerplant, FTR 1200, PowerPlus 108), since 2014! Polaris isn't leaving the motorcycle segment! Your reasoning is a knee jerk reaction.
I own Victory’s and Harley’s. If you want to get there every time without any worries at all: victory
Harley: better resale.
You don't put an apostrophe on "Victorys" and "Harleys" (And I know the plural for "Victory" is "Victories" I'm just emulating what you wrote.)
I know I'm a grammar Nazi.
@@WalrusWinking "Grammar Nazi" is one way to put it...
100% spot on ... i own both and i would agree
I know 2 guys with Victory that are constantly broke and a ton with Harleys with no issues. Granted one is an older vic
I have a couple friends that have Harleys. I never really wanted a bike. One friend had (at the time) 3 Harleys and said he'd sell me one.
I wasn't looking for a bike.
One evening I say a bike, my mouth dropped, did not know what it was, saw it was a Victory...said to myself 'I've Never Heard of a Victory...owner came out of the business he was parked at. We talked..at length. (He rides the very bike you are showing...and said. 'I can sell you a bike...')
Short story -- my first bike is a 2007 Victory Kingpin 100 cubic inches. I'm 65yo.
Good on you. I hope that you enjoy it for many years to come.
I’m late but...
Congratulations 🎉🎊🎈!😀
We’re there any challenges that came with starting riding at that age? My father just purchased his first bike
Is this the kingpin 106?
Bow Hunter I was bumming around on a Saturday afternoon and wondered into a Victory dealership out of boredom. 20 minutes later I’m signing papers for a new 2012 Kingpin. I had a little trail bike when I was a kid and a buddy loaned me his Suzuki Intruder for a week in school, but this was first real motorcycle and it saved my life. I was struggling with depression and teaching myself to ride it gave me a challenge to face and an activity to get me out of the house on weekends. 26K smiles on it and still have it!
BRING BACK VICTORY MOTORCYCLES
Never happen because Polaris is too into their Indian line. I feel they were different enough that they could’ve kept both. Really liked the Victory bikes.
Loving my 3rd hand Hammer!!!!
Hell yes!
I'm so bummed I barely started riding in 2020. The more research I do the more I realize how bad ass Victory was
There are really good used ones out there. Can’t go wrong with a Victory.
With a price tag to match
@@sokodad Dont get a Victory. They have a weak point! 5 dollar gear retaining clips in the transmission break! Don't catch it in time the engine will lock up up, end of engine end of you. Catch it in time and full strip down required. Steer clear. My judge went at 17k. Many reports of them going. Don't risk it, you've been warned. Best looking production bike ever though.
@@matoko123do you have more sources to back this up?
@@matoko123 - Yep! Just turned 91,000 miles on my Victory Jackpot, and the transmission started acting up along with it making an ungodly noise when in neutral and leaned over to the left. Mechanic said the C clip in the tranny either came loose or broke. Being that the tranny is part of the engine means that in order to repair it, you must remove the engine and split the case. Was going to run about 5 grand to repair IF no gears were messed up in the tranny. Any other problem found could easily add another grand or so as parts are already hard to find. Ended up selling the bike "as-is" to someone who was looking at fixing it themselves and I went out and bought a Big Dog K9 motorcycle.
Bring back VICTORY!!
bought my Victory... all my friends have Harleys.. My bike has spent more time waiting for HD's at dealerships to be fixed on long trips, i been across the states couple times, never had any problems. And i do not baby my bike at all lol
61 k on my crosscountry tour , Love this damn bike, 8 " more legroom than the ultra and corners like a dream. Too bad , they were just catching on. Ride on !
how tall are you, i'm leaning towards the road glide because I like the look and tall riders seem to like it.
@@silinusvers no comparison in leg room. Nothing rides like a Vic. Try and ride the two bikes back to back and you will throw rocks at the HD guy trying to sell you the bike lol
@@silinusvers ---> I have ridden the Road Glide and now own a Victory Cross Country tour which is the same bike as the Cross Country, but with heated seats, grips, cruise control, crash bar lowers. All of the Cross Country bikes have 18-inch floorboards and you have more legroom than you have riding a Harley Road Glide.
60000 on mine
I just love the sound of a Victory motor.
I love the look and style of the Victory bikes but I tend to hang to my bikes forever and that 10 year cut-off for parts would be weighing on my mind every time I rode the bike. Too bad Polaris couldn't just keep manufacturing Victory bikes alongside Indians. I like both.
I've ridden Victory, a very nice bike that created a niche for itself by being unpretentious. I've ridden an Indian, which seemed to be a renamed Victory trying to be something it wasn't. STILL.... Both were nice bikes and if it suits you, awesome! Go get one and ride it! I think most of the criticism of Harley-Davidson has nothing to do with the motorcycles themselves. The beef is either with the buying demographic and their attitude toward "infidels", or with the dealers and their greediness at the bargaining table. I ride a Road King, but I try to avoid stereotypes. I ride in full protective riding gear with a full face helmet. I ride with all kinds of other folks and their chosen brands because not everyone in my riding organization buys Harley. We insist on the "Planet Fitness" method of getting along, the "Judgement Free Zone". I love seeing all kinds of motorcycles in our group rides. It makes me wish I owned every one of them!
I have an 04 Kingpin in purple thunder. I love it as much today as I did when I rolled it off the showroom. To this day I get thumbs up when I go out for a spin. I'm 69, been riding since I was 15 and have 5 other bikes of varying size and style. My Vic is still my favorite.
Oh man. That's basically my dream bike right there!
I always love Victory's because they have a big v-twin with overdrive, have a lower CG and are just lower to the ground for us shorties, and they look clean and modern. I'll never understand why every other v-twin on the market either looks unchanged since 1953 and looks just like every other v-twin ever made, oooorr they've got a wee little pizza cutter way up on the next county which makes them handle like a bloated walrus.
8:37 that's a Federal law (10 year supply of parts) they're not doing that out of the kindness of their hearts. The real test will be after 10 years.
I just bought a 2014 Victory Cross Roads. It has 5700 miles and is in showroom condition. Price: $7400. I'll be 77 when they quit making parts for it. For now, I'm loving this bike!!!
Had many many bikes, my 2003 Victory Classic Cruiser is the Best Bike I ever owned, handled Great, nimble as hell for a Big bike, my had the 92 with 100ci factory update kit, full bagger that is so comfortable to ride all day, Victory went under but I will always own one as long as I ride, easy to work on if ever needed, much more Reliable than any Harley, and way more value for the buck, harley way overpriced Name Bike, but hey what ever makes you happy and Victory is it for me.
Victory screwed over all the people who bought them by shutting down. Now Polaris thinks I will buy an Indian??? No way. Not from a manufacturer that walks away from its customers.
How did they walk away? They're still manufacturing parts, honoring warranties and repairing victory's. They just quit making new bikes. That's not walking away. That's re focusing their efforts on a brand that has a better chance.
My local Victory dealer was in the top 5 in the country. They were given NO notice. They were just told that they weren't a "new" bike dealer anymore. They said "no problem, we will just sell Indians". Nope. Polaris didn't grant them permission to be an Indian dealer. No loyalty at all from Polaris. They will make Victory parts for awhile, but eventually they will not support them.
@@quinnjim Wait so you think Polaris screwed you over because they opted not to take on your victory dealer as an Indian dealer? Also 10 years of committed support after discontinuing the brand isn't enough? That's above and beyond. Come on. They run a business they did what they had to do to stay profitable nothing more nothing less. You're just being butthurt for no reason.
I never said that Polaris screwed me over. Try not to put words in my mouth. They screwed one of their top dealers over, which says a LOT about who they are.
@@quinnjim you specifically said they screwed over the people that bought them. You put those words in your mouth LMAO. Did you even read your own comment before that reply? I'm sorry I assumed you had purchased one since you referred to your victory dealer. I.e. They screwed you over. Are you daft?
I owned a '14 Cross Country Tour, a '10 VTX 1800 T, and a '10 Street Glide, at the same time. I wholeheartedly preferred the CCT. The handlebars didn't vibrate my hands to sleep. The stock seating position was much better with large floorboards to put your feet in more comfortable locations. Massive luggage area in the bags. Great BiG GOBS of torque. Smooth engine. There wasn't anything NOT to appreciate. Sadly traded it for a Slingshot, hindsight mistake. If I ever find another CCT in my price range, I'm jumping on it and doing the trike conversion (bad leg prevents safe stops on a 2 wheeler).
Man I rode a cross country a couple weeks ago that a guy I work with has, I've always ridden sport bikes, my last bike was an 07 R1. That victory was awesome, can't wait to buy one. It was so easy to ride, doesn't feel like a big bagger at all
I have a 2014 Street Glide and I’m going to be getting the Victory Highball soon. These two bikes are basically my dream bikes.
Love the review. It is awesome. I have an XC 2016 I got as a left Over in 17. I put 14,500+ on it so far!
I’ve been hooked on Victory motorcycles for over 5 years now. I’ve owned other brands but nothing else compares. Best bike for the money. Amazing style, great comfort, outstanding performance, low cost of maintenance. TTWFO
I was seeking happiness with a motorcycle but you showed me the way ..thank you for changing my mind. ..
One thing puts HD over Victory is that if HD shuts its doors today, I will be able to build a new one from scratch with aftermarket parts for the next 100 years....In ten years there will be NO Victory aftermarket.
And that is the absolute #1 reason I paid nearly $1000 more for my used '09 FXDF than a 2014 Vic with less miles on it. lol
I'll be building my Victory for years to come with used parts after new are no longer available. it's a non issue unless you are going for complete aftermarket upgrades.Harley has those big time. That said I've modified my Victory Hammer extensively.
Craig Hall I love the victory hammer great bikes
I already have this problem with my victory. I go to websites to buy something, only to find that it is discontinued.
John Garrison - That is a stupid reason, i still find parts for my 1948 Indian Chief. I still find parts for my 2003 Indian Chief, Victory is a far superior bike to H-D and you will still find parts in 20+ years.
I own 8 bikes right now and not a single 1 if a H-D. Harley is crap compared to Indian, Victory and Yamaha which is why H-D sales keep dropping year after year after year.
I very recently almost bought a 2016 H-D SGS, i decided i wanted a touring bike and i looked at the Indian Chieftain, H-D SGS and because i didn't like how forward the controls are on the Chieftain and was leaning towards the SGS. I was telling a friend and he said before you pull the pin and get the 2016 H-D SG, he said has a friend selling a 2016 Victory magnum i should check out, i am familiar with the Victory branch because i have a 2007 Victory Jackpot. He called up his buddy and we drove down to see the Magnum, it was mint and gorgeous, lots of upgrades including full stage 1 pipes and air intake along with an ECU tuner. I took it out for a ride and OMG, feels, handles and looks better than the SGS,. I fell in love with the 2016 magnum that has only 4000 miles on it and still under warranty until 08/2019. The H-D hard 0 warranty, more miles and not even close on the upgrades and was $7500 more. I bought the 2016 Victory Magnum and having it delivered on February 2nd.
Aww man. If my daughter wasn't driving age, and her Christmas present being out in the driveway.... I'd be all over that sweet ride. I LIKE being different.
Amen to Seekers of Wisdom! I really dig your channel and enjoy your Bible verse Kick Offs! ⚡
I’ve noticed most HDs I see for sale used have mostly 2k-4k miles. most victories 10k plus.
Harley does make some beautiful bikes. Ive come to own two Victory motorcycles. I wouldn't trade them for any Harley. That's not a knock against Harley either. I love the stretched tanks on the Vic's, I also prefer the freedom 106 which has proven to be Superior to any other hd engine. Polaris screwed up and badly mismanaged that brand. I wish they were still in business.
I just bought one- absolutely love it. Things is a beast
I really liked Victory's modern take on cruiser design. If ever I was going to own a cruiser, Victory had my interest. I was just never in the market for one when they were being made and when I finally got in the market for a new bike, they were no longer available. What a shame. I can understand why Polaris started producing Indian motorcycles and can understand why they didn't want to support two competing brands. Seems to me they'd be smart to keep all the Victory designers and engineers and sell Victory product under the Indian banner. The Indian badge for the classic styling and a Victory badge for the modern styling, all under one company.
Yes I totally agree. I was thinking the same thing. Both companies would be moving forward making money.
Too many roosters in the henhouse, I get it. But I can't see the advantage of only going head to head with Harley. The modern performance oriented styling hit the younger demographic in spades(something Harley has ruined for all young riders looking into cruisers with "retro" styling)
I have a 2016 Victory Gunner that I’ve put nearly 40k on since I rode it off the showroom floor. The next bike I buy will be a Victory regardless of them being shutdown by polaris. When the day comes I can no longer keep them on the road I’ll go back to Harley. At least I have faith they will still be around making motorcycles by then.
Is Polaris still supporting victory?
Parts and service?
I am on my second victory. My first one was an 03 V92 classic. My oldeat son now has that bike. I put 120,000 on that thing, and other than consumable parts, that bike has had nothing done to it. I now have a '11 crossroads. LOVE IT!!!
Ive been on the fence about victory only because they went out of business. But 8:30 you just helped me make a decision my friend!
For your sake, I hope that was a "no way". Not that the Vic isn't a nice bike, but dude... You're gonna have issues getting support. And the aftermarket supply is going to dry up.
How is it that HD riders want to be seen as "an out there minority" yet they all ride the same looking bikes and all dress the same? Its almost a uniform. That is a nice bike. Too bad they killed that line.
I ride a Harley trust me I don't dress like the typical Harley rider but that's also like saying every sports bike looks the same the ninjas look like the GSXR that look like the cbr's
I may dress like a typical Harley owner but my bike is one of a kind. You couldn’t tell me for one moment that all Harleys look the same, that’s just how they come from factory. Just like every other manufacturer.
@@jacobclarke9019
Apes, PIAA headlight bulbs or LED conversion, LED blinkers, pipes, aftermarket seat?
upside downdog aftermarket intake and exhaust with a tune. Factory bulbs for turn signals and brake. Aftermarket yellow bulb for headlight. $600 in miscellaneous matching parts like my primary cover, headlight cover, brake reservoir covers, etc. Got myself a seat, new shift lever, new grips, new clutch and brake levers, new plug wires to match my tank. All of that plus so much more on what’s already a badass 48 Sportster. Nice try tho 🤙🤙
@@killer44spl well, to me sportsbikes clearly dont all look alike. To a degree yes but the fireblade, the older one, 2014, has a veeeery different face than a Yamaha r1. Thing is. Im not a sportsbike guy. I like wide handlebars. But. On one hand I'd want my fairing to be in flipflock paint and all individual.... But that gets you caught for speeding very easily....
I think Victory will be something unique in the future. Maybe something akin to a Norton as far as some good memories for people and that what if capturing imagination.
I recently found your channel looking for videos on the Yamaha Road Star. I realized you are selling these motorcycles, hence a sales channel. My last ride was a 2000 Victory V92C and am now thinking about getting another ride. After seeing your videos on the Road Star I would consider one over getting a Harley, mainly because of the price (and sadly the reliability). Although this Victory looks pretty sweet.
Always loved the sound of the baffle and exhaust on the Victory
BRING BACK VICTORY!!! I'M IN LOVE WITH MY CROSS ROADS
If they bring these back im getting one
Just go ahead and get a used one, if you can locate one.😉
I dont even like most of hd models. Id prefer the looks of asian cruisers. Also hd is very overpriced and not as reliable.
Darth bane, why do you even need a bike? Dont you have a sith order to eliminate lol
I love my Vic Magnum! I’m typically not a “Me Too Guy”.
Me too.
I just bought a second Cross Country a few months ago. I have two Anit Feeze Green ones and on Black/blue Vision. I have been riding bikes over 50 years (66) and plan on riding till I drop or can't anymore. I've own all the major brands...NOTHING compares to the Victory: I'm not worried one bit about parts, I have no problem getting them and FRANKLY: the fun will be creating new systems from newer technology. These bikes are BEYOND good looking....I get stares and people asking to take pics all the time...GREAT BIKES..
Victory has 8 seals. Harley-Davidson Twin Cam has I believe 68 seals.
i jst bought a 2012 Victory Vegas Eightball....it gets more compliments than all the Harleys around me
Good to see the gloves work with cell phones.. Great bike Great video.. God bless
Victory and Indians are built for bigger riders. If your 6 foot or taller you would be much more comfortable on these bikes. Finding parts is getting expensive and hard to find. But these Victories are a deal if your looking for a big bike with lower cost. Harley’s are nice but they are built for smaller people. Don’t believe me, just look at the floor boards.
You are correct sir I am 6' 3'' most room Vic CX stock I've owned and tried HD they've been passed up as being a big bike
2017 Victory Vision 55k miles 0 issue 30k pulling trailer.
2011 Victory Vision 0 issue
What's the difference between a old dog and Harley Davidson? The Old Dog can get into the back of a pickup by itself!! I have a Victory Hammer best bike I've owned I replaced the clutch so posted the part# and special tools required if there's any Victory owners needing a manual its in my description too!
I’m glad you mentioned that 92 models aren’t recommended. I just found one that looked really sharp and priced at $3200. I was strongly thinking about buying it until I researched it. Thanks you probably saved me a ton of headaches and buyer’s remorse. Ride safe and stay off the paint.
Not a fan of their fairings. I wish they would've kept the line going.
I love the look of the entire Victory line. I traded my C90 in on a 17 Cross Country. 😍 some day I shall have a Vision model.
I could never stand harley fanboys/purists...esp when they try and argue that their bikes dont leak or their part are outsorced to asian countries for manufacturing
victory won me over years ago when I saw how they build/run their engines and create more stable power , output and performance/maintenance reliability.
Victory built a better mousetrap, they just couldn't market it to OLD SCHOOL HD RIDERS!
I was going go with street glide and I went with 2013 victory cross country few days ago.... hope next few years or by 2027 someone will pick victory up and start making them again
They are owned by Polaris. Polaris pretty much shut them down to focus on the Indian brand. The new Indian challenger definitely looks like a new victory.
That’s my old bike! I added all the chrome to it and the exhaust! What a wonderful bike, I miss it and Victory made one hell of a nice brand!
The cross country is PERFECT for tall guys 6 feet and over. Most room I ever felt on a motorcycle at 6’2. It is literally a recliner on 2 wheels. I wasn’t even interested in victory until I sat on one just for fun and I was like WOW this feels good! Unfortunately they were pretty much as expensive new and used as the Harley’s and I couldn’t afford either.
I will say the victory engine is nice. It’s got great midrange and top end unlike a Harley or Kawasaki big twin. My Kawasaki 1600 falls flat on its face when the Rpms get up there and just abruptly stops pulling. The victory keeps pulling no matter how high the revs
Hate to be obtuse but Honda builds the best touring bike and always have
Sean Kerr, I remember the 2006 Kingpin you had that your sold for only $5k. I was hoping my money came in fast enough back then to get that bike. They was a cool bike!
I want them both and indian aswell and a sport bike and an enduro...... I want them all. The victory would be my commuter through the big city.
LOVE how everyone now suddenly loves and promotes this bikes after they have already failed... where was everyone prior.
Still lovin my 2016 Victory Vision. I knew Victory line was being shut down when I bought it, but had been enthralled with the vision since walking by one on the dealers showroom floor in 2009. Victory engines and trannys are near bulletproof, so I likely have many more miles to put on it. I am still bummed out Polaris ended the line. Support for the line was committed for 10 years, that was from 2018 I think. There are a lot of good motorcycles out there, but I still like my Victory.
Victory was like Indian's sporty-ish line up right? or am i wrong about that
Your wrong. Victory was its own entity. Decent bikes, but now that their gone, parts and service could be dicey
Only reason I didn't buy a victory is because of finding oem parts plus not many new aftermarket parts being made
My left ear really enjoyed this video.
Unfortunately my left speaker doesn't work hahaha
was ur right ear bored. ?
Damn dude, I was restarting my headphones, restarting my phone etc.. trying to figure out wtf was wrong. Scrolled to the comments to see if I was the only one, took forever but finally saw yours. Phew...
Victory made a nice bike, it's a shame they went under, resale value is awful I've heard...
I bought a 2013 Judge with 1800 miles for $6500. He paid around $15,000 for it only 5 years ago.
You can get those big beasts cheap now not much to lose
I bought mine to keep not sure why people care about resale.
cunning linguist hahaha ok 👌🏻 and I ain’t selling mine
I love seeing other victory motorcycles. I own a 2008 victory kingpin. I want to put a fairing on it and make it look more like this.
Victory is superior engineering. I have a 2000 92c. Great Ride.
Trifire W I have a 2000 sc. I swapped in the 01 engine with the upgraded transmission. My only complaint is the price of brake rotors.
Dude... Indian had the v-twin 2 yes before harley, ... So obviously Indian set the pattern.
I'm a young rider from England, and I bought a 08 Vegas 8ball a few months back, it definitely has a few issues but I love this bike. Though once the parts become rare I'll just slowly swap harley parts in 🤷♂️
Dude. I almost bought the 2012 in 2015. I loved the ride and feel but the biggest difference to me was the value. My harley was a few thousand more but the cross country had zero real chrome. All plastic covers.
I watched your unedited 2nd half. Don't pay $300 to map a bike. You can get a new tuner for that.
Love my '14 XC
Hating the fact that Polaris pulled the plug on a performance oriented brand over retro styling.
Love my 2011 XC...smoothest easiest riding bike I've ever owned!!!!
Ps Took the HD out today in cold wet weather Dyna Street bob with 16" apes and it made me feel better than not taking it out. Result. Big smile on my face ;)
I love my 2016 Victory Crossroads 8ball. The people I ride with are on Harleys. The performance of the Victory IMHO is better than the Harley. There are two things that I wish victory had done differently; the gas tank doesn't seem to fit a fuel nozzle properly and it's often a pain in the but to fill the tank. Also, the stock pipes make it sound a little anemic and it doesn't properly represent the true power of this beast.
I like some of the victory cruisers but hate the touring bike
Да такая же у нас истеричная любовь в Харлеям=)
Я всерьёз заглядывают на Vegas, но точно знаю, что пока сам не попробуешь, никакие советы не помогут выбрать то, что действительно твоё!
Удачи на дорогах!
I like how you said they are different and unique I guess I am just a diehard Harley man. Just not a fan of their look. Interesting seeing and hearing it run. Price seems a lot better.... i also agree Harley's colors haven't grabbed me until recently I test drove a Blue Max SG I drove it home ;-)
Hey I fell in love with the Daytona Blue on my 14 Rushmore limited, never seen the color blue pop that way, as for reliability I have 53000 miles on it and only had it in for routine maintenance. Guess I am crazy but I love HD's
Another reason why to not own a Victory:
Many a young boy, I know of, dreamt of owning a Harley. Never have I met one dreaming of owning a Polaris...
I'm from England, and my local bike shop actually stocks a lot of Victory's, which is quite rare because I never see them here. Is it an issue repairing them, considering they are no longer in production?
Victory is a better than Harley in design and 0ower and comfort. The sad thing about Polaris is they had no heart and didn't realize what they have so they close Victory. I would have bought a Victory Cross Roads if they would have stayed open. All the Victory dealers around me in cities all around were not passionate and some of them are jerks. Walk into their Victory store and it acts like it kills them to have you in there as a customer. I was never a Harley-Davidson fan but Battle Creek Harley-Davidson always treated you a good when you want next door. They won me over as I bought me a Road King Classic. I love Victory motorcycles! The Kingpin is one of my all time favorite bikes ever. I would like to see someone buy Victory from Polaris and take them to the next level.
@ I am one that likes all bikes so I think they are all cool. Honda makes sweet bikes. I like Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki, Victory, Harley, Indian, they are all cool bikes to me.
Baird's Bikes Videos wasn't the main reason Victory was shutdown was because they (Polaris) did not want compete with to put a dent in Indian sales? Basically compete against them selves.
@@johnanderson9735 It might be. Not sure. I know the Victory fans that loved Victory were not Indian fans at all. I always liked Indian. The Chief I always thought was cool looking. When I contacted Polaris online before, they said Victory didn't sell a whole lot. I was arguing with them because of their lack of passion for their product in my area of Victory dealers. When the dealers act like it kills them if you walk into their store to look around, that is a bad way to push your product. Victory motorcycles are sweet! Just needed more passion in their product in my opinion.
@@68weebee I agree on the lack of passion, Victory's are nice bikes. If I had enough cash, and my wife would approve, I would have one my favorites from each line of bikes (two is the limit right now, I was talking about #3 and I got 'No you don't need three!' my daughter chimed in as well LOL).
I disagree, I liked the Victory similar to the one in this vid but after riding it and riding the Harley Street glide, I was greatly disappointed in the Victory, the Harley was much smoother and more maneauverable. But to each his own.
If Victory ever comes back....i,ll turn in my harley for it.
Then why not get a used Victory?
@@draganm7823 Where will you go when that used Victory needs new parts?
It won’t.
HELLO....!!!! Victory legally must provide parts for ten years...
Common knowledge.
@@troydolan9223 lol....they don't have to legally provide anything. If you're buying into them still providing anything but basic rebuild parts in the next 5-years, or so, I've got some nice Florida swamp land you might be interested in as well.
One thing I cant stand about this bike are the buttons, they look like they are just tacked on as an afterthought
I have ridden all types of motorcycle, but In my opinion Victory is the way to go. My 2013 vegas 8-ball has more power and torque than my brothers 2015 fatboy. Very dependable bike.
I'm know I'm a couple years late but I'm putting together me and my dad putting together a motorcycle shop Pitch Black Riders two-wheel costume I would love for y'all to come through kill of the UA-camrs that got bikes come through
I see a big beautiful cruiser for sale for $14k. I wonder should I buy it.
I bought a heated seat and handgrips. A must have imo
I have a friend that has a victory and it seems like he is always making excuses why it's "just as cool as a harley", almost like insecure about it...strange. P.S I like those gloves but i would never buy them, that zipper flapping around my paint is not going to happen
Back in the old days, you could buy a Jeep or you could buy a Scout(International), and everywhere you went, you would be defending your decision "They're just as good as a Jeep." Well, they really weren't , and their pickups really sucked too, and they don't make either one now, but you can build a Jeep out of a catalogue, same as a Harley.
Eh. Harley is so much of a cult brand not so unlikely that one would feel insecure perhaps. Unless you d buy not a cruiser but a monster like a Yamaha mt 01which, combining a big v2 with a sporty chassis is like what Harley never tried and buell just kinda did but with issues.
And I just subscribed. Just curious looking at the surroundings are you in PA?
Awesome video as usual and pre-owned iron horses.
🗨️😎👍
I have some kind of curse…owned a Saab it went out of business…owned a Honda Element…it was discontinued…buy a Victory and they went belly up in ‘18. Ugh…
Haha could you go buy a Kia for me please and then marry a feminist
Now we know who to blame.
Look I love Indian and all but part of me wishes Polaris would of just kept the victory line! I love the way they look, the performance was great. Harley Davidson just stays behind the times on a lot of things compared to other brands and their performance don’t match the price tag
Victory lied about keeping parts going.
I'm not the one riding the bike, yet that post it on the left side of the bike was causing me to be distracted.
Nothin' written on it: it hides his speeding.
@@intrudergrid9530 points of is discussion were on that post it note, the words of wisdom note was the one he moved to the tank.
I really don't think he was trying to hide anything.
@@intrudergrid9530 You must be a Democrat, as you can plainly see it list his reasons to like/dislike the Victory.
I LOVE my '17 Cross Country!
I like Indians styling. The Cheif and Scout look sexy! And the FTR 1200 looks good as well besides the stock exhaust.
I have a friend who has a Scout. Fine bike indeed. And Indian is working hard to gain Harley owners. And, certainly succeeding when Harley pulls one of their notorious "it ain't our problem, even if we designed it or created it" stunts. I like how they designed a bad engine... denies their is a problem, and then sells a "Screaming Eagle" kit designed to upgrade and fix that very problem. For a mere $700 plus labor. My middle finger always finds it's way into the air at those moments. Still, I love my Harley. Maybe it's the shake at idle. Or the sound of that exhaust. Or, maybe even the therapy in wiping off the dripping chrome after a wash. Who knows what causes this empty wallet sickness.
Victory Boardwalk rider and Christian here. Just subscribed.
LOVE HARLEY AND VICTORY,BBOTH GREAT BIKES
You always give good info love those bikes nice style and reliable .😁think I'm gona get one soon later might be harder to find thanks you make me Wana get one
Dont get a Victory. They have a weak point! 5 dollar gear retaining clips in the transmission break! Don't catch it in time the engine will lock up up, end of engine end of you. Catch it in time and full strip down required. Steer clear. My judge went at 17k. Many reports of them going. Don't risk it, you've been warned. Best looking production bike ever though.
I always want to like Victory more than I do. They had a few models that I liked a lot, and a bunch of others that look like a bottle of Axe body wash. I could do without the lame tribal and flame graphics and obnoxious color schemes. But I do like the engines.
Did you say Axe Body Wash!? Buwahahahahaha! LMAO!
Seen the prices for spare/replacement parts? Eye 👁 opening...
Love my Cross Country, and when it’s time I’ll most likely buy an Indian.
Brian Bong I love my Victory, but I don’t trust Polaris to not suddenly stop making Indians. I’ll stick with metric for my next bike.
Just got a 2017 Chieftain Darkhorse, love the bike. The ride is smooth. The power is awesome. I doubt Polaris will stop making Indian motorcycles. Indian motorcycles were out selling the victory line so that's why that line was cut. I will get a victory magnum to have along side the Darkhorse.
@@totocall1999 Polaris made a corporate decision. Victory was started to be direct competition to HD. The Indian line cut more into Harley sales then Victory ever could. Polaris wasn't going to compete against itself for the same customers. Indian Motorcycles, *(using Victory R&D), has produced 4 motors, (Thunderstroke 111, Scout Powerplant, FTR 1200, PowerPlus 108), since 2014! Polaris isn't leaving the motorcycle segment! Your reasoning is a knee jerk reaction.