I mean it does suck, but take a trip down to your local Indian dealer and you'll see striking similarities minus the reliability is now only slightly better than Harley.
I bought a Victory Vision Tour after surviving a life threatening bought of Cancer. I had not ridden in 35 years and am 6' 6" and about 290 lbs. This bike is a dream. It cruises like a Cadillac, leans almost as much as a sports bike, and can Turn at idle in it's own length. It is the best $6000 I ever spent. As a past marketing man, Victory failed because of poor marketing and Polaris not taking advantage of their vast recreational vehicle dealer network. They are doing better with the lessons learned through Victory's failure with Indian, but they also really caused bad blood with the loyal Victory owner. My Victory is a great bike and I have no intention of getting rid of it.
My friend nearly died in a motorcycle accident 2 years ago. He had his hip and leg surgically re-assembled and went through an entire year of re-hab, with his goal of buying another bike and riding again. He got through it and bought a "new" (used) bike. However he had hardly ridden it at all when his wife *"soft-guilted"* him into giving it up. You can I'm sure, understand the angle she used. I can't blame her. The irony is he'd just completed a 10-day "hard butt" ride from coast to coast and back without an incident, and then a week or 2 later got in that wreck less than a mile from his home!
this is where we were going with this whole conversation, please read or watch the video for there is nothing more important than your eternal salvation and where you spend eternity God bless :) if you ever want to talk i would be glad too < this is the gospel the greatest news you can ever hear we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
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when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
I bought a Hammer 100 inch. It’s a 2006. I’ve been to France,holland ,Belgium and Germany twice and my Hammer never let me down. It is the most beautiful bike in the world.
I am a proud owner of both a Vegas 8ball and Cross Country,and both are phenomenal bikes. Maintenance is a breeze and they are a blast to ride. Im hoping that sometime in the future Polaris will bring them back for another shot, just like they did Indian. This was a bittersweet video
I own a 2017 Victory Highball, just put some Bassani pro street turnouts on her last week, absolutely love this bike. Matte black, tons of attitude, and has insanely loud pipes and plenty of power to back it up. Wish they kept making them, but when I am ready for another bike, Indian will definitely be my main choice. Polaris does it right.
@@ansv3340 I believe thats what they were going for, to NOT look like a harley and to be original yet modern looking. Thats why I went with them. At the time they were not only cheaper than a harley, but also more powerful. Not sure how they look like an asian bike but ok. Oh yea, they were also 100% American made, Harleys are not...
@@jessstearns4534 I know for sure that Harley uses showa forks and Denso electronics, which are the best out there, all the sensors and computers from denso are the best and most reliable. . ( these both are Japanese)
I picked up an 05 Hammer in August 2021. Only had 1,400 miles. After replacing the fuel system and getting everything else straight from it sitting for so many years, it's a brand new 05 Hammer, and it's the best bike I've ever owned. Reliable, fast, and unquestionably beautiful. Comfortable to ride, even on long distance trips. It'll cruise at 95 mph in 6th gear all day long. It's smooth as silk and quicker than a damn rattlesnake. That 100 cubic inch motor is no joke, and the 6 speed transmission means it's fantastic on the highway. Wouldn't trade my Victory for any other bike out there. It's definitely not for sale!
I bought my brand new 03 Vegas right after retiring from the Navy. Still have it almost 18yrs later! Amazing machine. 60k miles and still runs very strong! Always gets compliments I never dreamed I’d own a bike this long. I’ll never sell it 😎
This one hurts a bit. We NEED Victory back. There's room in the market for the brand for sure. My thoughts... The Gunner was about 4 years too late, and they never did a good job of marketing or building a dealer network.
I agree. I bought my gunner because I saw it on the show room floor and then showed up for a demo ride day. I've never regretted that purchase. I had no idea the brand was on its way out at the time, I assumed they were just getting started.
@@marksman303 I purchased my Gunner in May 2017, after announcement was made. It did not stop me from getting it. I always wanted a Victory and when I heard the news of the shutdown, it was now or never. Still have the bike, almost 10,000 miles on it and love it. It has been rock solid.
I've owned and ridden a lot of motorcycles, but when I rode my sons victory vegas 8 ball I instantly fell in love with it...that includes Yamaha fj 1100, Yamaha v max, Yamaha v star 950...and a few others...What a great bike.
I'm a very large fellow from Texas. 6'3" 340 lbs. When Victory came out with the Vision Tour bike I thought I went to heaven. I still have and enjoy riding my 2017 model. I've rode bikes all my life and this bike was just made for me. I'm 63 years old and I guess I will ride it until the wheels fall off. Best bike ever! Thanks for the video... Sadden Victory owner....
this is where we were going with this whole conversation, please read or watch the video for there is nothing more important than your eternal salvation and where you spend eternity God bless :) if you ever want to talk i would be glad too < this is the gospel the greatest news you can ever hear we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
ua-cam.com/video/Ixyuvdo_Sjg/v-deo.html
when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
I bought my first Victory Cross Country in 2023 and absolutely love it! Planning to keep it for a long time, plus my wife likes it and it’s comfortable for both of us.
With a fight as reliable as a victory you really don't need to have a dealer Network unless you have a lemon that's always going back to the dealer like HD
this is where we were going with this whole conversation, please read or watch the video for there is nothing more important than your eternal salvation and where you spend eternity God bless :) if you ever want to talk i would be glad too < this is the gospel the greatest news you can ever hear we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
ua-cam.com/video/Ixyuvdo_Sjg/v-deo.html
when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
Good video! I'm a Harley guy but I totally respected Victory and was sad to see it go. I've test-ridden Indians and think they are phenomenal motorcycles so kudos to Polaris for bringing Indian back and keeping it alive. Yes, corporate decisions are sometimes heartbreaking but you've got to pay the bills. HD needed competition, got it from Victory and now has it from Indian (plus the Japanese and European manufacturers). Overall, Victory and Indian have made HD better and not worse.
HD has priced themeselves out of competition //// You cannot attract younger riders to HD scooters at the current price point ! HD is starting to get into trouble !
I always thought the same, HD needed competition from an American brand. While Victory was able to push them, it was unfortunate that most didn't even know the brand existed. I've always thought that Victory needed to advertise more than just here and there in a couple magazines directed to motorcycle riders. I was glad to see Indian at least show up at a few shows and then really started getting in on the flat track racing. Hopefully they will be able to get new riders into the fold and keep innovating. And hopefully HD will not just fall back on it's "we're only trying to sell to old fanbois" attitude and keep pushing new areas like the PanAmerica.
all Indian needed was to have the backing of a big corporation (like Polaris) and resources to become a relevant brand again. It already had the heritage.
I bought a Victory last year and it’s been the most fun bike I’ve owned. I took my first trip obit three weeks ago and am planning another nex month. Great bike. They discontinued the wrong bike.
I bought a Victory new in 2013 and still ride it today. I love it. I’ll never say never to another bike but this Victory still gives me goose bumps when I ride.
this is where we were going with this whole conversation, please read or watch the video for there is nothing more important than your eternal salvation and where you spend eternity God bless :) if you ever want to talk i would be glad too < this is the gospel the greatest news you can ever hear we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
ua-cam.com/video/Ixyuvdo_Sjg/v-deo.html
when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
I bought a 2013 Cross Country Tour brand new off the showroom floor and still have it. 53000 miles on the ticker and no plans to get rid of it. I do like the new Challenger, and rumor has it that was originally going to be a Victory bike before the Big V folded.
I heard the same thing about the Challenger. Even if it's not true, I like to think the reason it's getting such a good response so far is because it was originally slated to be a Vic. I haven't ridden one (yet!) but I hear they are amazing!
this is where we were going with this whole conversation, please read or watch the video for there is nothing more important than your eternal salvation and where you spend eternity God bless :) if you ever want to talk i would be glad too < this is the gospel the greatest news you can ever hear we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
ua-cam.com/video/Ixyuvdo_Sjg/v-deo.html
when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
I think the subprime mortgage crisis was the biggest factor , victory was just hitting their stride. And I was aware of the impulse at the time. I even saw the 108 challenger motor as a victory cross country prototype before they canceled the brand . I think ithe motor will will actually bolt into my bike. I ride a 2013 Cross country ,the Challenger from the seat down it’s the same bike! Albeit not as good looking. Great video!
After looking Victory for a few years I went and bought one! And knew that the Victory brand was gone already. That was in 2020 and glad I did!! I bought a 2014 Vision Tour and drove over 700 miles to get it and it only had 2100 miles on it with many more to put on it in the future. I wish they would bring it back.
Proud Victory Cross Country owner here for 4 years and just love it. Most comfortable motorcycle I have owned with gobs of room to stretch out and outstanding performance for a big heavy bagger. Mine is Maximus tuned with LLoyds air filter and 501 Lloyds cam ( already had tri oval pipes ) and sits at 115 hp an tq. The only bike that could move me away would be the new Indian Challenger with PP 108 motor that Victory was designing to replace the 106, or a fixed fairing Indian PP 108 model rumored to be in production.
I currently own a '16 Highball and I love it. The looks, the ride, the sound of the exhaust note, everything. I'm always on the lookout for a reasonably priced Magnum X1 to add to the stable. 🤞
I own a 2011 Victory Vision 8 Ball. I rode Goldwings for years however when I came across my 8 Ball I fell in love. It’s been a year and I’m still in love. I like Indian but Victory had its own unique style. I’m praying they come back. Peace ☮️
Great video! Have a 2010 Cross Country I bought new and it's flawless. Last year bought a Indian Challenger and you can definitely see the Victory dna in it, I hope it's as reliable as the Cross country has been
I had a 2010 Victory Cross County. Loved it! But when the Challenger came out, with its Victory inspired engine and overhead cams, I pulled the trigger on my first Indian. I still love the Victory motorcycles, but looking to the future, had to get the Indian. And I will say, I love it and it feels like the evolution of where Victory was going.
Great look back at victory... I have a 2011 Cross Country, not too worried about parts, there already are companies like witch doctor that sell non OEM parts, I've already replaced pipes and clutch with after market.
I am a Harley rider, but always liked the Victory bikes and felt that they were on the right path to being a true HD competitor. Just like Buell, in which HD gave up on them too soon, Polaris gave up on Victory too soon. As well, Polaris didn't do a great job of promoting Victory and I think that because of that they never became a known commodity.
this is where we were going with this whole conversation, please read or watch the video for there is nothing more important than your eternal salvation and where you spend eternity God bless :) if you ever want to talk i would be glad too < this is the gospel the greatest news you can ever hear we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
ua-cam.com/video/Ixyuvdo_Sjg/v-deo.html
when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
Best bikes IMO. I currently own 7 of them, and do all my own work. Very well designed bikes, and despite some issues on the very early V92 transmissions, they are quite reliable. And if you upgrade the transmission, even the early bikes are very reliable.
this is where we were going with this whole conversation, please read or watch the video for there is nothing more important than your eternal salvation and where you spend eternity God bless :) if you ever want to talk i would be glad too < this is the gospel the greatest news you can ever hear we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
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when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
the gospel news you can ever hear we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
ua-cam.com/video/Ixyuvdo_Sjg/v-deo.html
when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
Thanks for this. I would love one for sure and I really love the models seen here. I'm generally not a fan of big batwing fairings but they really stood out on a few of these
I still own a 2013 Cross Country Tour, I went from a Honda Valkyrie Interstate and never looked back. The CCT is far more reliable than the Valk ever was, More comfortable for long rides, fuel injected so you didnt have those annoying carb issues. Got better mileage and looked different than all of the other cookie cutter V twin bikes.
Bought my 2015 Cross Country 8-ball after lots of research in February of 2019 second hand with 8,000 miles on the odometer. Yes I knew they had already stopped production almost 2 years earlier. Since, I added a tour pack and forged bars to make it my dream touring bike. I will ride it until the wheels fall off.
One more thing to note is that the highest customer satisfaction figure would indicate victory riders not willing to trade their bike in for another model because satisfaction was so high, thus low sales. , and with almost no marketing dollars on television or radio. So this also would limit sales
HOW DOES THAT ACCOUNT FOR SELLING YOUR BIKE TO A PRIVATE PARTY CAUSE DEALER WOULDNT GIVE SHIT FOR A trade and then a pissed off buyer goes and buys a real harley....lol
@@craigbielsky115 it doesnt relate. if your satisfied with your bike means you dont wanna sell it, thereby victory needing to expand customer base via new customers, which can be limited, without marketing dollars spent, it would rely on word of mouth only. Which can work but may take more time.
@@paulford540 you didnt answer my question? so you think all new bikes are sold to guys trading in the old one? nope...what if more sold the used bike outright and didnt buy a new victory instead bought something else....you speak as if there are no other options....i have been satisfied with many bikes boats cars but sold them for something new and better your scenario holds no water....
What will likely happen is some of the larger dealers will buy up all the left over stock they can get their hands on and keep selling into the future . It's what happened with Buell parts which aren't really carried by HD dealers anymore since they stopped selling them in 2010 , but a couple dealers still have almost a complete parts inventory available for now . You just have to know where to look once you own one you'll find out pretty quickly since basically they use derivatives of 90's and early 2000's HD parts so you'll need replacements .
Great video, although I have to point out that the first model year was 1999 (not 1998). I bought my victory Judge used from a Harley dealer when I was ready to move on from a Vulcan 800, it was less than half the price of a comparable harley softtail at the time. I rode it 3 hours home and never looked back. I Immediately fell in love with the brand and would love to add another vic to the stable. If only the stable were bigger though.. till the wheels fall off.
The Octane is definitely a bike i wanna try. I like the looks better than the scout, and it performs better on paper. I wouldnt be surprised if the octane became a cult classic bike.
Very short production so these will be hard to find and will hold value. I even think in time to come they will go up in value if the miles are not extreme
Just sold my XC for my first Harley. I loved it. I really did. But parts availability was shit before covid... Only got worse after. The aftermarket support was near non existent compared to HD.
Thanks for the video, great job. I was certainly sad to see a superior brand be shutdown. The week after I decided my next bike was going to be a Victory, i read the announcement and was very discouraged initially. After some debate and delays, i came across a 2016 Victory Gunner in army green, with only 7000 km's and fell in love. What a beauty to look at and ride :-). Eventually i may switch to Indian, but for now i am loving my Gunner!
If I want a tractor I'll buy a John Deer or a Mahindra. If I want another motorcycle I will buy another Victory or an Indian Challenger, which is in fact, pure Victory born and bred.
I lived in Sebastapol for a while. Being an Aussie I was always interested in the stuff happening in California. It so happened I teamed up met a gent I only knew as California Bob. A seriously great guy. a gentleman of the highest order. And he had a Victory! Well, he'd show up on a Sat. and take me up and around, and about up in Sonoma County. That machine was a dream. Handled like a knife and fork. Stable. Smooth. Comfortable. Awesome! Vale Victory.
Just bought a 2013 CC with 14k miles. Hands down the most powerful and comfortable motorcycle I’ve ever owned. No regrets at all! Going down to Arizona bike week in April 2022
I have owned many motorcycles over the years and I can say with certainty my 2014 Cross Country 8-ball is the finest bike I have ever had. I bought 4 years ago after Polaris stopped production, and for the fun I've had, it's been a great decision.
I ride a 1999 victory v92c that I bought new. I have been riding it ever since. It is the best and most reliable motor cycle I have ever owned. It still runs like a new motorcycle after 22 years of desert riding.
I love my Victory Cross Country. Bought it used with 10K miles and have doubled that since. It's a great, reliable bike that is like riding on a couch. Couldn't ask for better.
While I do not own a Victory, I am always open to adding one to the collection. I do hope that the aftermarket will provide enough parts to keep these bikes on the road for years to come.
Victory was taking off and then they shut it down. People were beginning to get a victory over a Harley Davidson. The victory was a bullet proof design with a single oil fill, single oil drain, air cooled and a gear drive American bike. Victory was selling and was about to peak in 2014/2015/2016 as you began to see more of them on the road until Polaris went to the Indian instead which was a bad move. If Polaris had of put the same energy into Victory like they did Indian Victory could have been huge.
Good thing there is good aftermarket support for them. I was looking to get a victory before they went under and went with an indian. I still wouldn't be scared to buy one like alot if people are. If they are as good as my indian I wouldn't have any worries
@@M3TA1UPY0URA55 Who's Them??? Please don't even try to compare your Indian with any other Italian or Japanese bike,it will never compare.American bikes are just a devise that returns petrol into noise.
I just bought a victory vegas used. Amazing bike, and a steal in value terms. The more I looked into the reliability, maintenance, and aftermarket support, then more comfortable I became.
@@M3TA1UPY0URA55 you clear did not look up the difference they put into it. Or even watched this video if you are saying that. I know they looks pretty similar buts it's also like saying a Harley Softail Standard and the Fatbob 'are the same bike' or that the a Yamaha FZ06 and the R6 'are the same bike'. No iv ridden every one of the scouts and the octane. They are Definitly not the same bike.
@@John_shepard yes! The octane itself has a tone of different styling cues as well. In practical performance, cams in the engine and the drive train are tuned for shorter closer gears, delivering way instant torque at lower RPMs than the Scout. The tire selection is mean for sharp performance and better cornering than the fat tires on the Scouts. Overall shape and major structure of the engine are similar but they feel and look so very different. That is why I made a comparison to different Harley Softtails. The Harley Softail may ostensibly all the use the same engine but they can feel and perform very difference across the line up. And the octane and Scout actually have different engine characteristics between them that the Softtails don't have between themselves. I want a new Scout because it's the closest thing to the Octane, but if the Octane where still made the scouts would be dead to me.
i was interested in Victory back in the early 2010s, I was still going to college and everything at the time so I never got to buy one before they're sold out. I'm looking at an FTR1200 right now. I'm absolutely in LOVE with that machine!
On another note the Victory Judge in Matt nuclear sunset with a matte black engine still gets compliments when I ride it. Here is the compliment I get. "That is a really nice looking bike, who makes it?" I just point to the side of the tank. They must have thought I just painted that logo on there and it was a different manufacturer.
Nice! Those Judges were beautiful muscle cruisers. They seemed to catch on more in Europe as people like the sportier bikes there a bit more than North America.
Polaris never marketed the brand. No one ever heard of them. Indian was doing good because people have heard of Indian. Don't worry Victory morphed into Indian. I own a Judge and will never get rid of it because it is a one of a kind. My wife wants me to get a bagger so she can ride with me so my next bike will be Indian/Victory Challenger. LOL! The 108 is a liquid cooled version of the 106 with a Indian bottom end attached. One of the things I like about Victory was for a little bit of money you could make it an insanely powerful motorcycle.
The PP108 has nothing in common with the old Freedom 106, other than two pistons... While there was a Victory version of the PP108, there is absolutely nothing in common with that engine and the Previous Victory 106.
The upper end of the 106 and 108 are pretty much the same internally. Same chain for timing same hydraulic tensioner. Same single overhead cam. That is about it as far as similar but they are not totally different.
Loved my Victory's. Since they shit down I made the transfer to Indian. I love my Indian but honestly would probably still be on a Vic if they were around
I have a Vision and it's been an amazing bike. It feels more reliable and comfortable than my newer Ultra Limited. It's a dang shame that Victory didn't survive. They forced Harley to be better. Competition is a beautiful thing for the consumer. The Indian line is ok....but it's just not the same as Victory.
There's about 30 for sale here in Oz. They're all in amazing condition and still demand decent coin. Seems they were all bought by enthusiasts who look after them. I'm looking to move to a cruiser soon (read old n fat) and not being a brand snob Victory is well up on my list and they're a little bespoke making them more interesting. On paper the Victory demise is truly baffling but the real world isn't made of paper...
Brand snobs, are the people who buy Harley's. why would you pay over the odds, for a bike, when there are much better looking, reliable, powerful and cheaper makes on the market
I would still like to own a Victory Cross Country. My challenge is I don’t have that level of money to gamble with. What I mean is this: If I had $11-$13k that I could spend and not be concerned about whether Victory parts would be available beyond 2027, I would buy a Cross Country tomorrow. I would take it on cross-country ride, then relegate it to Sunday afternoons & keep it as a family heirloom. Another bike would be for general riding. But, I don’t have that kind of spare money to risk, so I can’t do it-not yet! My current ride is a 2007 Vulcan 1600 classic-great reliability & power (torque is amazing) but I’m much older now and the Vulcan is top-heavy on the front end. For years, riders have raved that the Victory baggers are nimble and great at low speed steering. Great video & research. Thanks.
Still resentful myself, Polaris stabbed Vic owners in the back. Polaris never really promoted Victory, it was a half effort, support from Polaris was poor, service at the dealerships was about the same, thank the gods Victory was almost trouble free. The biggest support came from the independent service shops that specialized in Victory, as well as performance improvements, places like Conquest Customs, The Vic Shop, Nometz Designs, and of course, Lloydz. Everyone said Victory was a dead brand, but, thanks to the love for it by the owners, it's going strong! 👍
@@elkarlos814 you got lucky with your dealer, the ones we had in the Atlanta area were garbage. The problem it seems was Polaris tried to place Victory with multi line dealers, Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, etc, or, a place that sold other Polaris product, the unfamiliarity with the brand, who bought it, made for an uphill climb. Notice Polaris didn't make that mistake with the fake Indian brand.
I had wanted a Victory for many years and of coarse when the time came when I could get one, Victory was no more. As a result, I am now the proud owner of a Indian FTR. Part of this desire for a Victory and the eventual purchase of my Indian was that I have owned many Polaris products over the years and have been very satisfied by their reliability and performance. It sucks that they let the Victory line go but I believe you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the name on the tank was their biggest issue.
I never liked the Arlen ness look but I know they were built great, I’m a retired Harley-Davidson mechanic and the victory ran so much better and cooler, I now own an Indian and kept my Harley-Davidson’s but never ride them that much the Indian runs oh so much stronger and more reliable, I have a few Honda’s, Yamaha and vintage mx bikes but the Indians are on top
Yeah my Indian warmed up my inner thigh but I had Ryan Lloyd from Charlotte Indian bench flash my ECU with what he calls the secret sauce and that helped it out 100%
Yep, all the Victory bikes seemed bathed in that Ness stench. It appeared as though they were finally trying to get away from that family and make more interesting bikes when they were closed down. Guess Polaris didn't want any internal competition harming its Indian brand? Those clowns love to proclaim the heritage of the original Indian as their own instead of focusing on their own achievements of the past two decades. That I could respect but promoting the marketing equivalent of stolen valor I can't.
Same I have a Boardwalk and have absolutely ZERO intention of getting rid of it. Actually now that they're out of business it makes me want to hold on to it tighter
I own a Victory Hammer, I'm in Australia. Best most reliable bike I've ever owned. Bought it and two weeks later they stopped production. Never had a problem sourcing parts or accessories, even all the way down here. Several Victory specific parts places in America. If you never rode one, you'll never understand, much better than the Harleys I've owned.
These bikes being cancelled broke my heart and it still does.
same. so i bought mine 4 months after the close. ‘12 Highball and i’ll never give it up
Do you own one?
@@jamesmata2945 I do I’ve owned two vics. A 14 highball and a 17 magnum
I mean it does suck, but take a trip down to your local Indian dealer and you'll see striking similarities minus the reliability is now only slightly better than Harley.
@@devindavis4518 i cant wait to get my first bike. Maybe next year. Gotta save.
I bought a Victory Vision Tour after surviving a life threatening bought of Cancer. I had not ridden in 35 years and am 6' 6" and about 290 lbs. This bike is a dream. It cruises like a Cadillac, leans almost as much as a sports bike, and can Turn at idle in it's own length. It is the best $6000 I ever spent. As a past marketing man, Victory failed because of poor marketing and Polaris not taking advantage of their vast recreational vehicle dealer network. They are doing better with the lessons learned through Victory's failure with Indian, but they also really caused bad blood with the loyal Victory owner. My Victory is a great bike and I have no intention of getting rid of it.
Enjoy your new life, friend.
SENSIBLE PEOPLE: "Bikes are dangerous".
YOU: "Been there, done that".
My friend nearly died in a motorcycle accident 2 years ago. He had his hip and leg surgically re-assembled and went through an entire year of re-hab, with his goal of buying another bike and riding again. He got through it and bought a "new" (used) bike. However he had hardly ridden it at all when his wife *"soft-guilted"* him into giving it up. You can I'm sure, understand the angle she used. I can't blame her.
The irony is he'd just completed a 10-day "hard butt" ride from coast to coast and back without an incident, and then a week or 2 later got in that wreck less than a mile from his home!
do you believe in afterlife? ?
this is where we were going with this whole conversation, please read or watch the video for there is nothing more important than your eternal salvation and where you spend eternity God bless :) if you ever want to talk i would be glad too <
this is the gospel the greatest news you can ever hear
we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless
when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
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when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
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@@ryanflanagan9624 only Allah rides a motorcycle in afterlife.
I bought a Hammer 100 inch. It’s a 2006. I’ve been to France,holland ,Belgium and Germany twice and my Hammer never let me down.
It is the most beautiful bike in the world.
I’m a proud owner of a 99 victory v92cc still runs like a champ! When I first got it it only had 7000 miles on it!!! I love my victory
I am a proud owner of both a Vegas 8ball and Cross Country,and both are phenomenal bikes. Maintenance is a breeze and they are a blast to ride. Im hoping that sometime in the future Polaris will bring them back for another shot, just like they did Indian. This was a bittersweet video
I own a 2017 Victory Highball, just put some Bassani pro street turnouts on her last week, absolutely love this bike. Matte black, tons of attitude, and has insanely loud pipes and plenty of power to back it up. Wish they kept making them, but when I am ready for another bike, Indian will definitely be my main choice. Polaris does it right.
Thanks for the comment. Those new Indian Chiefs have definitely taken some of the Vegas styling cues.
the problem with Victory, they not harleys, )) and they look more like asian bikes. no classic look in any of them,.
@@ansv3340 I believe thats what they were going for, to NOT look like a harley and to be original yet modern looking. Thats why I went with them. At the time they were not only cheaper than a harley, but also more powerful. Not sure how they look like an asian bike but ok. Oh yea, they were also 100% American made, Harleys are not...
@@jessstearns4534 I know for sure that Harley uses showa forks and Denso electronics, which are the best out there, all the sensors and computers from denso are the best and most reliable. . ( these both are Japanese)
I picked up an 05 Hammer in August 2021. Only had 1,400 miles. After replacing the fuel system and getting everything else straight from it sitting for so many years, it's a brand new 05 Hammer, and it's the best bike I've ever owned. Reliable, fast, and unquestionably beautiful. Comfortable to ride, even on long distance trips. It'll cruise at 95 mph in 6th gear all day long. It's smooth as silk and quicker than a damn rattlesnake. That 100 cubic inch motor is no joke, and the 6 speed transmission means it's fantastic on the highway. Wouldn't trade my Victory for any other bike out there. It's definitely not for sale!
I bought my brand new 03 Vegas right after retiring from the Navy. Still have it almost 18yrs later! Amazing machine. 60k miles and still runs very strong! Always gets compliments I never dreamed I’d own a bike this long. I’ll never sell it 😎
5 Victory's under my belt. Never had any mechanical or electrical issues. Had nothing but trouble with Harleys.
This one hurts a bit. We NEED Victory back. There's room in the market for the brand for sure. My thoughts... The Gunner was about 4 years too late, and they never did a good job of marketing or building a dealer network.
Agree. Polaris needs to use their existing dealers to sell their bikes. There would be so many more Indian dealers if that was the case.
If we still had victory, I would not have bought my Yamaha.
I agree. I bought my gunner because I saw it on the show room floor and then showed up for a demo ride day. I've never regretted that purchase. I had no idea the brand was on its way out at the time, I assumed they were just getting started.
@@marksman303 I purchased my Gunner in May 2017, after announcement was made. It did not stop me from getting it. I always wanted a Victory and when I heard the news of the shutdown, it was now or never. Still have the bike, almost 10,000 miles on it and love it. It has been rock solid.
I agree. They really lapsed on marketing.
I've owned and ridden a lot of motorcycles, but when I rode my sons victory vegas 8 ball I instantly fell in love with it...that includes Yamaha fj 1100, Yamaha v max, Yamaha v star 950...and a few others...What a great bike.
Bought my first road bike ever last year. A 2016 green Gunner. Absolutely love this bike.
Just purchased a 2011 crossroads a few months back after selling my street glide special. Love Victory!
I'm a very large fellow from Texas. 6'3" 340 lbs.
When Victory came out with the Vision Tour bike I thought I went to heaven. I still have and enjoy riding my 2017 model. I've rode bikes all my life and this bike was just made for me. I'm 63 years old and I guess I will ride it until the wheels fall off.
Best bike ever!
Thanks for the video...
Sadden Victory owner....
do you believe in afterlife? ?
this is where we were going with this whole conversation, please read or watch the video for there is nothing more important than your eternal salvation and where you spend eternity God bless :) if you ever want to talk i would be glad too <
this is the gospel the greatest news you can ever hear
we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless
when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
ua-cam.com/video/Ixyuvdo_Sjg/v-deo.html
when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
ua-cam.com/video/uZdv-TtiMkg/v-deo.html
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I'm 34 5'10 180lbs and I love my 08 vegas custom 6k miles
I bought my first Victory Cross Country in 2023 and absolutely love it! Planning to keep it for a long time, plus my wife likes it and it’s comfortable for both of us.
I bought my 2013 cross country new at the end of 2012. I have loved every minute of it. It's a much better bike than Harley has ever made
do you believe in afterlife? ?
With a fight as reliable as a victory you really don't need to have a dealer Network unless you have a lemon that's always going back to the dealer like HD
@@ryanflanagan9624 I don't understand the meaning of your reply are you threatening me because I like victory
@@frankmarkovcijr5459 not at all, i want to know what you think happens to someone after they die, what do you think happens?
this is where we were going with this whole conversation, please read or watch the video for there is nothing more important than your eternal salvation and where you spend eternity God bless :) if you ever want to talk i would be glad too <
this is the gospel the greatest news you can ever hear
we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless
when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
ua-cam.com/video/Ixyuvdo_Sjg/v-deo.html
when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
ua-cam.com/video/uZdv-TtiMkg/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/TgzD_yNdacA/v-deo.html
As a kid, i always admired Victory Vision, now, as an adult.... i love it
They’re still around. And they’re surprisingly affordable.
Amazing bike. I felt like cheating on the 1000 mile butt burner ride ;)
I will never sell mine.
My last Iron Butt run with it: Antwerp-Seville, 2100 km in 18 hours and 6 hours party afterwards. :-)
Best bike I've ever owned. Runs and rides great.
@@richardsmith5738 It's just that I can't get away from that side by side of the Vision and Bozo the clown, sorry.
Good video! I'm a Harley guy but I totally respected Victory and was sad to see it go. I've test-ridden Indians and think they are phenomenal motorcycles so kudos to Polaris for bringing Indian back and keeping it alive. Yes, corporate decisions are sometimes heartbreaking but you've got to pay the bills. HD needed competition, got it from Victory and now has it from Indian (plus the Japanese and European manufacturers). Overall, Victory and Indian have made HD better and not worse.
HD has priced themeselves out of competition //// You cannot attract younger riders to HD scooters at the current price point ! HD is starting to get into trouble !
I always thought the same, HD needed competition from an American brand. While Victory was able to push them, it was unfortunate that most didn't even know the brand existed. I've always thought that Victory needed to advertise more than just here and there in a couple magazines directed to motorcycle riders. I was glad to see Indian at least show up at a few shows and then really started getting in on the flat track racing. Hopefully they will be able to get new riders into the fold and keep innovating. And hopefully HD will not just fall back on it's "we're only trying to sell to old fanbois" attitude and keep pushing new areas like the PanAmerica.
do you believe in afterlife? ?
@@ryanflanagan9624 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
all Indian needed was to have the backing of a big corporation (like Polaris) and resources to become a relevant brand again. It already had the heritage.
I'll keep my Victory Cross Country 'till the wheels fall off! Love this bike and brand. Greetings from Germany.
wow from Germany!
Hello Deutschland!
Still banging around on an ‘05 Kingpin. Zero issues and the 16 year old bike always gets compliments
do you believe in afterlife? ?
I have a Victory and I never saw one commercial on television. No advertising killed the brand.
I’m just now realizing how good Victory was.
I bought a Victory last year and it’s been the most fun bike I’ve owned. I took my first trip obit three weeks ago and am planning another nex month. Great bike. They discontinued the wrong bike.
I bought a Victory new in 2013 and still ride it today. I love it. I’ll never say never to another bike but this Victory still gives me goose bumps when I ride.
do you believe in afterlife? ?
this is where we were going with this whole conversation, please read or watch the video for there is nothing more important than your eternal salvation and where you spend eternity God bless :) if you ever want to talk i would be glad too <
this is the gospel the greatest news you can ever hear
we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless
when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
ua-cam.com/video/Ixyuvdo_Sjg/v-deo.html
when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
ua-cam.com/video/uZdv-TtiMkg/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/TgzD_yNdacA/v-deo.html
No advertising and not enough dealers. I have a Vision and my daughter has a Kingpin. Chances are we will get more as time moves on.
I bought a 2013 Cross Country Tour brand new off the showroom floor and still have it. 53000 miles on the ticker and no plans to get rid of it. I do like the new Challenger, and rumor has it that was originally going to be a Victory bike before the Big V folded.
I heard the same thing about the Challenger. Even if it's not true, I like to think the reason it's getting such a good response so far is because it was originally slated to be a Vic. I haven't ridden one (yet!) but I hear they are amazing!
Of the 13 different bikes I've owned since 1972 my 2 Victorys were the best! It's a shame to lose the brand. The engines are awesome!
do you believe in afterlife? ?
this is where we were going with this whole conversation, please read or watch the video for there is nothing more important than your eternal salvation and where you spend eternity God bless :) if you ever want to talk i would be glad too <
this is the gospel the greatest news you can ever hear
we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless
when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
ua-cam.com/video/Ixyuvdo_Sjg/v-deo.html
when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
ua-cam.com/video/uZdv-TtiMkg/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/TgzD_yNdacA/v-deo.html
All the technology went into Indian, so that part is not lost
Bought a Victory Cross Country Tour 2 years ago... it's my forever bike. Love it!! Sad that I won't be able to upgrade.
I just purchased an original 2000 Victory V92SC Sport Cruiser with 485 actual miles on it, back in October 2020.
Great bike !!!!!
The Victory Vegas 8 Ball in gloss black is still one of the best looking motorcycles ever made.
I think the subprime mortgage crisis was the biggest factor , victory was just hitting their stride. And I was aware of the impulse at the time. I even saw the 108 challenger motor as a victory cross country prototype before they canceled the brand . I think ithe motor will will actually bolt into my bike. I ride a 2013 Cross country ,the Challenger from the seat down it’s the same bike! Albeit not as good looking. Great video!
I enjoyed this video, it was well presented. I ride a Victory Crossroads and will continue to ride a buy Victory models as long as I can.
Got a slightly used Octane last year and I'm super impressed by it! I plan on keeping it for a while
I recently bought a 2013 Highball and I love this bike. Turns heads everywhere I ride it and has power for days. Very disappointed in Polaris
After looking Victory for a few years I went and bought one! And knew that the Victory brand was gone already. That was in 2020 and glad I did!! I bought a 2014 Vision Tour and drove over 700 miles to get it and it only had 2100 miles on it with many more to put on it in the future. I wish they would bring it back.
do you believe in afterlife? ?
I had a Victory Gunner and a Kingpin. Fantastic bikes. The Gunner is a monster with a few mods. That 106 is a 💎
I’ve had an 8 ball Hammer and still ride an Anti Freeze Green Crosscountry with the cam party special add ons. I love Victory motorcycles
Proud Victory Cross Country owner here for 4 years and just love it. Most comfortable motorcycle I have owned with gobs of room to stretch out and outstanding performance for a big heavy bagger. Mine is Maximus tuned with LLoyds air filter and 501 Lloyds cam ( already had tri oval pipes ) and sits at 115 hp an tq. The only bike that could move me away would be the new Indian Challenger with PP 108 motor that Victory was designing to replace the 106, or a fixed fairing Indian PP 108 model rumored to be in production.
I currently own a '16 Highball and I love it. The looks, the ride, the sound of the exhaust note, everything. I'm always on the lookout for a reasonably priced Magnum X1 to add to the stable. 🤞
I own a 2011 Victory Vision 8 Ball. I rode Goldwings for years however when I came across my 8 Ball I fell in love. It’s been a year and I’m still in love. I like Indian but Victory had its own unique style. I’m praying they come back. Peace ☮️
Love my victory! My favorite bike to date.
I rode 2 of them, the Jackpot and the Magnum. Both very special machines
Great video! Have a 2010 Cross Country I bought new and it's flawless. Last year bought a Indian Challenger and you can definitely see the Victory dna in it, I hope it's as reliable as the Cross country has been
This production was as entertaining as it was necessary. Great work.
Thanks. I really enjoyed making this one.
I had a 2010 Victory Cross County. Loved it! But when the Challenger came out, with its Victory inspired engine and overhead cams, I pulled the trigger on my first Indian. I still love the Victory motorcycles, but looking to the future, had to get the Indian. And I will say, I love it and it feels like the evolution of where Victory was going.
Great look back at victory... I have a 2011 Cross Country, not too worried about parts, there already are companies like witch doctor that sell non OEM parts, I've already replaced pipes and clutch with after market.
I am a Harley rider, but always liked the Victory bikes and felt that they were on the right path to being a true HD competitor. Just like Buell, in which HD gave up on them too soon, Polaris gave up on Victory too soon. As well, Polaris didn't do a great job of promoting Victory and I think that because of that they never became a known commodity.
20 years is giving up too soon?
do you believe in afterlife? ?
this is where we were going with this whole conversation, please read or watch the video for there is nothing more important than your eternal salvation and where you spend eternity God bless :) if you ever want to talk i would be glad too <
this is the gospel the greatest news you can ever hear
we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless
when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
ua-cam.com/video/Ixyuvdo_Sjg/v-deo.html
when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
ua-cam.com/video/uZdv-TtiMkg/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/TgzD_yNdacA/v-deo.html
I still love my 08 Vegas 8 ball I just got 6k miles she's all dressed as best she could be
Best bikes IMO. I currently own 7 of them, and do all my own work. Very well designed bikes, and despite some issues on the very early V92 transmissions, they are quite reliable. And if you upgrade the transmission, even the early bikes are very reliable.
do you believe in afterlife? ?
this is where we were going with this whole conversation, please read or watch the video for there is nothing more important than your eternal salvation and where you spend eternity God bless :) if you ever want to talk i would be glad too <
this is the gospel the greatest news you can ever hear
we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless
when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
ua-cam.com/video/Ixyuvdo_Sjg/v-deo.html
when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
ua-cam.com/video/uZdv-TtiMkg/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/TgzD_yNdacA/v-deo.html
You do this type of video better than anybody.
....except Fortnine.
Thanks! I enjoyed making this one particularly.
@@nicksundby i like them both, i feel though fort 9 has a different style, not better or worse just different.
I completely agree with your statement. 👍🏻👍🏻
@@robertbelote5273 I also agree with you point. It's a different storytelling style.
Had 7 Harley's and one Victory Cross Roads, it was the most comfortable road eating machine out of the eight!!!
it's amazing how wonderful an actual suspension feels.
the gospel news you can ever hear
we broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments written on our heart by our God given conscious (lying, stealing, using God’s Name in vain, looking with lust which is adultery in the heart, hating our brother, our neighbor, anyone, is murder in the heart etc.) Jesus paid our fine on the cross with His death and shedding of blood. He took our punishment on the cross, God pays us in death for our sin and while Jesus did not deserve to die He did so willingly to save us from sin and death and hell and give us life forever, He paid our sin debt on the cross in His life’s blood to save us all. Jesus rose again from the dead and by His blood our sins are forgiven. Jesus is alive forever as He is King of kings and Lord of lords and He saves all who put their faith and repent of sin, confess and forsake it genuinely and in Truth. God can legally let us live forever, we broke His law Jesus paid our fine, He can do what is legal and just and right let us walk on judgment day when we all give account to God for our lives. in response to what God has done you have to put your faith in Jesus to save you and repent of sin turn from it and deny self pick up cross daily and follow Jesus. when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake genuinely you have God's promise you have life eternal as a free gift, God promises this, God Who cannot lie. God will also give you The Holy Spirit to abide with you forever to guide, help and comfort you in life as well as God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness that is a personal miracle for sin loving humans, so if you want a personal miracle seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Jesus, follow God’s ways and watch His work in your life He will never leave or forsake you and never let you down. get right with God, put your trust in Jesus and repent of sin, confess and forsake it and follow God and read your Bible God’s perfect Word ask The Holy Spirit to guide you as Jesus is The Living Word, ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in all confidence and God will in Jesus Name we pray amen always remember Jesus loves you that is why He saves us all! ✝️❤️< God bless
when you have put your faith in Jesus, repented of sin u are born again and are saved u have been transferred from the kingdom of darkness into The Kingdom of Light, from death to Life, the path to hell to Life eternal in heaven with God and Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen obey Jesus, His Word, He and God will make His home Their home with u, God with you always in The Holy Spirit
ua-cam.com/video/Ixyuvdo_Sjg/v-deo.html
when you are born again, when you put your faith in Jesus and repent of sin (confess and forsake) God will give you a new heart and spirit that loves righteousness instead of sin and corruption. that is a personal miracle for sin loving human beings so if you want a personal miracle humble yourself before God seek after God with a whole heart and you will find Him. Jesus said if anyone desires to come after me let him deny himself and pick up your cross daily and follow Jesus, to obey His Word in for God and Jesus to come and make Their home with you, the power of God through The Holy Spirit. God is knocking at the door and it is your choice to open or not
ua-cam.com/video/uZdv-TtiMkg/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/TgzD_yNdacA/v-deo.html
I did buy a 2019 Indian Chieftain Icon and am totally satisfied with it.
I think you can't beat the chrome work on Indian motorbikes, but I personally don't like their retro styling. But to each there own!
Thanks for this. I would love one for sure and I really love the models seen here. I'm generally not a fan of big batwing fairings but they really stood out on a few of these
I still own a 2013 Cross Country Tour, I went from a Honda Valkyrie Interstate and never looked back. The CCT is far more reliable than the Valk ever was, More comfortable for long rides, fuel injected so you didnt have those annoying carb issues. Got better mileage and looked different than all of the other cookie cutter V twin bikes.
do you believe in afterlife? ?
😢I still want one...yet your info was so needed....I really love the look of that bike
I bought a 13 xc nuclear suede sunset last year and I absolutely love it. Everytime I ride I get asked what my bike is and what color is it.
Bought my 2015 Cross Country 8-ball after lots of research in February of 2019 second hand with 8,000 miles on the odometer. Yes I knew they had already stopped production almost 2 years earlier. Since, I added a tour pack and forged bars to make it my dream touring bike. I will ride it until the wheels fall off.
One more thing to note is that the highest customer satisfaction figure would indicate victory riders not willing to trade their bike in for another model because satisfaction was so high, thus low sales. , and with almost no marketing dollars on television or radio. So this also would limit sales
HOW DOES THAT ACCOUNT FOR SELLING YOUR BIKE TO A PRIVATE PARTY CAUSE DEALER WOULDNT GIVE SHIT FOR A trade and then a pissed off buyer goes and buys a real harley....lol
@@craigbielsky115 it doesnt relate.
if your satisfied with your bike means you dont wanna sell it, thereby victory needing to expand customer base via new customers, which can be limited, without marketing dollars spent, it would rely on word of mouth only. Which can work but may take more time.
@@paulford540 you didnt answer my question?
so you think all new bikes are sold to guys trading in the old one? nope...what if more sold the used bike outright and didnt buy a new victory instead bought something else....you speak as if there are no other options....i have been satisfied with many bikes boats cars but sold them for something new and better your scenario holds no water....
@@craigbielsky115 no of course not, by no means
But the statistic does show the trend
@@paulford540 NOT REALLY JUST YOUR IMAGINATION....
Yes, not having parts made after 2027 is a definite minus. Excellent video. :)
However, it opens the door for machine shop re production parts, more US jobs!! Victory will have a cult following and Victory Clubs will spring up!!
Hopefully the aftermarket fills in. Maybe someday they'll be sought after collectibles.
What will likely happen is some of the larger dealers will buy up all the left over stock they can get their hands on and keep selling into the future . It's what happened with Buell parts which aren't really carried by HD dealers anymore since they stopped selling them in 2010 , but a couple dealers still have almost a complete parts inventory available for now . You just have to know where to look once you own one you'll find out pretty quickly since basically they use derivatives of 90's and early 2000's HD parts so you'll need replacements .
Great video, although I have to point out that the first model year was 1999 (not 1998). I bought my victory Judge used from a Harley dealer when I was ready to move on from a Vulcan 800, it was less than half the price of a comparable harley softtail at the time. I rode it 3 hours home and never looked back. I Immediately fell in love with the brand and would love to add another vic to the stable. If only the stable were bigger though.. till the wheels fall off.
I'm still riding my second Victory, my first was an 04 Kingpin, then I bought a 2014 Crossroads that just begged me to take it home!
The Octane is definitely a bike i wanna try. I like the looks better than the scout, and it performs better on paper. I wouldnt be surprised if the octane became a cult classic bike.
Very short production so these will be hard to find and will hold value. I even think in time to come they will go up in value if the miles are not extreme
do you believe in afterlife? ?
I love my 2013 victory judge with chrome swept pipes!!!!
Never my thing but looked better than Harleys. The full size touring beast always had admirers at the local biker meet up cafe.
That Cross Country was one of the best proportioned baggers out there.
Just sold my XC for my first Harley. I loved it. I really did. But parts availability was shit before covid... Only got worse after. The aftermarket support was near non existent compared to HD.
Thanks for the video, great job. I was certainly sad to see a superior brand be shutdown. The week after I decided my next bike was going to be a Victory, i read the announcement and was very discouraged initially. After some debate and delays, i came across a 2016 Victory Gunner in army green, with only 7000 km's and fell in love. What a beauty to look at and ride :-). Eventually i may switch to Indian, but for now i am loving my Gunner!
If I want a tractor I'll buy a John Deer or a Mahindra. If I want another motorcycle I will buy another Victory or an Indian Challenger, which is in fact, pure Victory born and bred.
I lived in Sebastapol for a while. Being an Aussie I was always interested in the stuff happening in California.
It so happened I teamed up met a gent I only knew as California Bob. A seriously great guy. a gentleman of the highest order. And he had a Victory!
Well, he'd show up on a Sat. and take me up and around, and about up in Sonoma County.
That machine was a dream. Handled like a knife and fork. Stable. Smooth. Comfortable.
Awesome!
Vale Victory.
Great content! Love riding my 2013 VVTP! 🇺🇸 Till the wheels fall off!
Nice! The big dealer in my area just sold a nice 2017 Gunner. Should be a classic someday.
Just bought a 2013 CC with 14k miles. Hands down the most powerful and comfortable motorcycle I’ve ever owned. No regrets at all! Going down to Arizona bike week in April 2022
I love my vision. The most comfortable bike I've owned, just wish they made a 2020😆
I recently bought a 2007 Victory Vegas and I absolutely love the thing.
If I could buy a Vegas or even a Gunner, I would ride off into the sunset and be happy ever after.
If you can land a Vegas and like the riding style, I definitely recommend them. I have a 2013 with the 106 and it’s a phenomenal bike.
My local bike shop just sold a beautiful 2017 Gunner. Beauty.
That 106 on the cruisers is so much fun.
bought an 06 jackpot for 3k
I have owned many motorcycles over the years and I can say with certainty my 2014 Cross Country 8-ball is the finest bike I have ever had. I bought 4 years ago after Polaris stopped production, and for the fun I've had, it's been a great decision.
If Victory would have ever reached my country, then I would have gotten one. No.Matter.what.
I ride a 1999 victory v92c that I bought new. I have been riding it ever since. It is the best and most reliable motor cycle I have ever owned. It still runs like a new motorcycle after 22 years of desert riding.
I have a 2015 Gunner. It's an insanely good bike.
I love my Victory Cross Country. Bought it used with 10K miles and have doubled that since. It's a great, reliable bike that is like riding on a couch. Couldn't ask for better.
While I do not own a Victory, I am always open to adding one to the collection. I do hope that the aftermarket will provide enough parts to keep these bikes on the road for years to come.
Yes. I owned two Crossroads before they folded. I still have my 2012 XR LE No. 109. Best handling bagger I ever rode. Thanks for the video.
Victory was taking off and then they shut it down. People were beginning to get a victory over a Harley Davidson. The victory was a bullet proof design with a single oil fill, single oil drain, air cooled and a gear drive American bike.
Victory was selling and was about to peak in 2014/2015/2016 as you began to see more of them on the road until Polaris went to the Indian instead which was a bad move. If Polaris had of put the same energy into Victory like they did Indian Victory could have been huge.
Good thing there is good aftermarket support for them. I was looking to get a victory before they went under and went with an indian. I still wouldn't be scared to buy one like alot if people are. If they are as good as my indian I wouldn't have any worries
Any Japanese 300 would bet the crap out of these terrible bikes.
@@donaldgoodinson7550 and my indian would beat the crao out of them for comfort and touring. That's what these bikes are made for.
@@donaldgoodinson7550 are you really trying to compare cruisers with sport bikes?
@@M3TA1UPY0URA55 Who's Them??? Please don't even try to compare your Indian with any other Italian or Japanese bike,it will never compare.American bikes are just a devise that returns petrol into noise.
I just bought a victory vegas used. Amazing bike, and a steal in value terms. The more I looked into the reliability, maintenance, and aftermarket support, then more comfortable I became.
I most dissapointed that the octane went away just as fast as it arrived. The scouts just aren't up to par with them, but it's the closest we get now.
The scout is the same bike. And there are several versions of it to choose from. From Cafe racer to bobber.
@@M3TA1UPY0URA55 you clear did not look up the difference they put into it. Or even watched this video if you are saying that. I know they looks pretty similar buts it's also like saying a Harley Softail Standard and the Fatbob 'are the same bike' or that the a Yamaha FZ06 and the R6 'are the same bike'. No iv ridden every one of the scouts and the octane. They are Definitly not the same bike.
@@Cpt-Night-ajg what is the difference then? More performance oriented?
@@John_shepard yes! The octane itself has a tone of different styling cues as well. In practical performance, cams in the engine and the drive train are tuned for shorter closer gears, delivering way instant torque at lower RPMs than the Scout. The tire selection is mean for sharp performance and better cornering than the fat tires on the Scouts. Overall shape and major structure of the engine are similar but they feel and look so very different. That is why I made a comparison to different Harley Softtails. The Harley Softail may ostensibly all the use the same engine but they can feel and perform very difference across the line up. And the octane and Scout actually have different engine characteristics between them that the Softtails don't have between themselves.
I want a new Scout because it's the closest thing to the Octane, but if the Octane where still made the scouts would be dead to me.
i was interested in Victory back in the early 2010s, I was still going to college and everything at the time so I never got to buy one before they're sold out. I'm looking at an FTR1200 right now. I'm absolutely in LOVE with that machine!
On another note the Victory Judge in Matt nuclear sunset with a matte black engine still gets compliments when I ride it. Here is the compliment I get. "That is a really nice looking bike, who makes it?" I just point to the side of the tank. They must have thought I just painted that logo on there and it was a different manufacturer.
Nice! Those Judges were beautiful muscle cruisers. They seemed to catch on more in Europe as people like the sportier bikes there a bit more than North America.
I owned a 2011 Victory Vision Tour that I purchased new. I kept that bike for a little over 10 years. It was a great machine. Very dependable.
I have a 2016 Victory Cross Country Tour and love the bike. I'm gonna ride it until the wheels fall off.
December 2021 I sold the Harley and bought a 2009 vegas low. Best decision I ever made. What a bike !!
I love the look 👀 of most of the Victory’s, the Judge was my favourite, almost brought one not to long ago in my Country Australia 🇦🇺
It was a nice muscle bike. I hear they did well in Europe as well.
@@DifferentSpokesTV , yes apparently they still produced for European markets even after dropped in US , not sure 🤔 about Australia 🇦🇺
Bought a Cross Country new in 2012-still have it and ride regularly. Best motorcycle I have ever owned!!! I would love to find a Ness Vision!
Polaris never marketed the brand. No one ever heard of them. Indian was doing good because people have heard of Indian. Don't worry Victory morphed into Indian. I own a Judge and will never get rid of it because it is a one of a kind. My wife wants me to get a bagger so she can ride with me so my next bike will be Indian/Victory Challenger. LOL! The 108 is a liquid cooled version of the 106 with a Indian bottom end attached. One of the things I like about Victory was for a little bit of money you could make it an insanely powerful motorcycle.
Actually challanger is based on a victory platform
The PP108 has nothing in common with the old Freedom 106, other than two pistons... While there was a Victory version of the PP108, there is absolutely nothing in common with that engine and the Previous Victory 106.
The upper end of the 106 and 108 are pretty much the same internally. Same chain for timing same hydraulic tensioner. Same single overhead cam. That is about it as far as similar but they are not totally different.
Challanger is the WIP Victory, now branded as Indian
Bought me a 2011 Victory Vision Dec 2020. Nothing but double takes when I ride! BRING EM BACK!!!
Loved my Victory's. Since they shit down I made the transfer to Indian. I love my Indian but honestly would probably still be on a Vic if they were around
Just bought an Indian Chieftain dark horse, One of the best looking and most powerful bikes I have ever seen!
I have a Vision and it's been an amazing bike. It feels more reliable and comfortable than my newer Ultra Limited. It's a dang shame that Victory didn't survive. They forced Harley to be better. Competition is a beautiful thing for the consumer.
The Indian line is ok....but it's just not the same as Victory.
Yes sire I would be driving one today if they didn't stop making them.I really liked the looks ,and the sound of the Victory
There's about 30 for sale here in Oz. They're all in amazing condition and still demand decent coin. Seems they were all bought by enthusiasts who look after them. I'm looking to move to a cruiser soon (read old n fat) and not being a brand snob Victory is well up on my list and they're a little bespoke making them more interesting. On paper the Victory demise is truly baffling but the real world isn't made of paper...
Yeah, I just saw a nice 2017 Gunner on sale nearby for a reasonable price. Just don't have the funds right now, but if I did it would be tempting.
Brand snobs, are the people who buy Harley's. why would you pay over the odds, for a bike, when there are much better looking, reliable, powerful and cheaper makes on the market
@@BigBadLoneWolf Because some people like dressing up like the Village People and need the props to go with it 😆
@@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt or as I like to call them, the "motorcycle cosplay group"
@@KevinB-ih9sl 🤣
I would still like to own a Victory Cross Country. My challenge is I don’t have that level of money to gamble with. What I mean is this: If I had $11-$13k that I could spend and not be concerned about whether Victory parts would be available beyond 2027, I would buy a Cross Country tomorrow. I would take it on cross-country ride, then relegate it to Sunday afternoons & keep it as a family heirloom. Another bike would be for general riding. But, I don’t have that kind of spare money to risk, so I can’t do it-not yet! My current ride is a 2007 Vulcan 1600 classic-great reliability & power (torque is amazing) but I’m much older now and the Vulcan is top-heavy on the front end. For years, riders have raved that the Victory baggers are nimble and great at low speed steering. Great video & research. Thanks.
Still resentful myself, Polaris stabbed Vic owners in the back. Polaris never really promoted Victory, it was a half effort, support from Polaris was poor, service at the dealerships was about the same, thank the gods Victory was almost trouble free. The biggest support came from the independent service shops that specialized in Victory, as well as performance improvements, places like Conquest Customs, The Vic Shop, Nometz Designs, and of course, Lloydz. Everyone said Victory was a dead brand, but, thanks to the love for it by the owners, it's going strong! 👍
My dealer's service was absolutely outstanding and as you said, they were so well-built that maintenance was minimal.
@@elkarlos814 you got lucky with your dealer, the ones we had in the Atlanta area were garbage. The problem it seems was Polaris tried to place Victory with multi line dealers, Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, etc, or, a place that sold other Polaris product, the unfamiliarity with the brand, who bought it, made for an uphill climb. Notice Polaris didn't make that mistake with the fake Indian brand.
I had wanted a Victory for many years and of coarse when the time came when I could get one, Victory was no more. As a result, I am now the proud owner of a Indian FTR. Part of this desire for a Victory and the eventual purchase of my Indian was that I have owned many Polaris products over the years and have been very satisfied by their reliability and performance. It sucks that they let the Victory line go but I believe you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the name on the tank was their biggest issue.
I never liked the Arlen ness look but I know they were built great, I’m a retired Harley-Davidson mechanic and the victory ran so much better and cooler, I now own an Indian and kept my Harley-Davidson’s but never ride them that much the Indian runs oh so much stronger and more reliable, I have a few Honda’s, Yamaha and vintage mx bikes but the Indians are on top
Yep, the Arlen Ness stuff is a bit too far out there for me too. I like the more understated bikes.
I never cared for any Ness Victory projects and the parts were ridiculously priced.
My biggest gripe about the Indians was the engine heat on the inner thigh. They ride great for such heavy bikes though IMO.
Yeah my Indian warmed up my inner thigh but I had Ryan Lloyd from Charlotte Indian bench flash my ECU with what he calls the secret sauce and that helped it out 100%
Yep, all the Victory bikes seemed bathed in that Ness stench. It appeared as though they were finally trying to get away from that family and make more interesting bikes when they were closed down. Guess Polaris didn't want any internal competition harming its Indian brand? Those clowns love to proclaim the heritage of the original Indian as their own instead of focusing on their own achievements of the past two decades. That I could respect but promoting the marketing equivalent of stolen valor I can't.
I owned 3 victorys they were fantastic bikes. I have an Indian now. It also has been great.
I plan on keeping my Victory Vegas going for decades to come.
Same I have a Boardwalk and have absolutely ZERO intention of getting rid of it. Actually now that they're out of business it makes me want to hold on to it tighter
AussieBlokeGordo I got a feeling they will make a comeback on a smaller scale.
I own a Victory Hammer, I'm in Australia. Best most reliable bike I've ever owned. Bought it and two weeks later they stopped production. Never had a problem sourcing parts or accessories, even all the way down here. Several Victory specific parts places in America. If you never rode one, you'll never understand, much better than the Harleys I've owned.