What Do MS Model Numbers Mean? (Part 3/?, G Gundam, Wing, X and Turn A) [Question of the Week]
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Those Turn A designations are easy, they're seemingly random simply because they're from countries, armies or engineers in the dark history, who's existence is lost to time. It's like building WWII tanks 1k years from now and wondering why they have such random designations when the countries they were made by don't exist.
Agreed. I think there was something to that effect in the background of the series. For example, the Wodom could mean a unit of Neo-Japan from G-Gundam. Though I do not know about that Model U that was I guess recently added. I never saw it being used like that before now. Shrug.
I think the Wodom's model number is a reference to G Gundam considering the infamy of Turn A manages to mishmash AU Gundam series together as a single universe.
Kakarot197: **a few videos ago** Oh hey, someone asked about the model numbers for mobile suits. That could be fun.
Kakarot197: **now** I've made a horrible mistake...
oops
Meaning next time will be Seed, 00, Age, IBO, and then possible Build
yeah! actually, i think he already did SEED and SEED Destiny, maybe. as for Build Series, i wanna see him go in depth and also explain its place in the Dark History (with my theory being that in that version of the Dark History, they did some sort of Plavsky Particle or whatever experiment on a Perfect Grade Turn A Gundam Gunpla (one can only WISH for a Perfect Grade Turn A. tho i would prefer it to be Perfect Grade Unleashed) and it went haywire and did the thing, which would also explain the lack of knowledge on who the pilot was, or if there even was a pilot when the Turn A first destroyed society)
Ibo probably has one of the easiest naming schemes for model numbers
@I am Petitgguy ooooh i see. But i still want the build series to also be part of the Dark History lol
7:36 - At first, it didn't make sense to me as to why the Leopard, the Heavyarms-esque Gundam of X, is named after a stealthy big cat; now it makes sense to me.
Gundam X where a the mobile suits look better then UC or Wing.
The W in the Airmaster's model number could probably stand for "wing" as it's an aerial unit, just as the T in the Leopard could be for tank, since it's an artillery unit.
It could also be T for Turret, as it's got a machine gun as arms, not unlike another Gundam Wing unit.
It could also means trooper and warrior accordingly
"W" stands for Wambo?
me: absolutely
When i heard "giant robots controlled by a steering wheel" i imediatley thought of the power rangers RPM and operation over drive megazords being controlled by steering wheels
I think power rangers turbo also used a steering wheel to control their megazord isn't it?
And then there’s Super Megaforce with the pirate themed mech complete with the steering wheel at the helm of a pirate ship.
@@TheHiddenBoss Like a lot of people, I prefer to think of it as Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger where they used controls akin to sailing vessel's helms! We don't talk about Megaforce or Super Megaforce, okay? *stares into soul*
@@CD-Gaming Fair enough.
You poor soul...quick, do a top list of beam sabers. That should be easy and fun, maybe.
and obviously the Nemo's beam saber is number 1 when it comes to killing.
no but really, it's number 1 for reducing collateral damage since it was tuned NOT to cut in order to encourage stabbing (which i'm sure it is safe to assume that that is a holdover from the Nemo's AEUG days)
In the guide to G Gundam in the blu ray set, it's stated that George's family bought the butler MS so your theory def checks out
Personally I believe that most of the designations of turn a is tomino making fun of how random and inconsistent they are
My theory with the "MR" and "MRC" is that it means "Moon Race" and "Moon Race Combat" since the only suit to use the "MR" in its model number is technically a Mobile Worker... but then that is completely shot down by the Bellona, a Mobile Worker with "MRC".
From my understanding the C was for Custom. And denoted that it was either a custom design or a mass production design that the pilot was allowed to customize.
@@JTMC93 like he said in the video, Turn A is a can of worms that does not need to be opened until we have an official source.
Or moon race construct
@@spartana1116 but then how do your explain the Jet Stream, its model number only has MR.
@@DeamonChocobo jet stream? That's a tristar move
Just a guess for Neo France's second suit. It might be a reference to the Foreign Legion or as its called in French, the Légion étrangère. I know the letters aren't in order but its also a triple language combo with Japanese, English, and French
theory on the Pescatore:
P-143 stands for Pescatore model 143.
There are 142 other pescatores out there ready to haunt our nightmares.
You know, we always ask which suit was the strongest, but we never ask which suit is the most effective. Like which suits were nearly perfect at their job. No plot armour, no random bugs or failures, just did their job and did it well
Oh I so agree with this comment that would be a very fun topic to talk about.
If your doing ibo here's my guess for the gundam frames designation with a rearrangement of the letters is Advance Weapons System Gundam frame followed by the unit number
I had a similar line of thinking for that, but I was thinking the A could stand for Alaya-Vinjana since the term is hyphenated and all Gundam Frames use it.
@@ignisofficialgaming except for Kimaris. until Kimaris Vidar, im not aware that suit has Alaya-Vijnana on it.
@@rhonpen5388 when they were first made all of them had the system, it's 300 years later that some had it removed
@@rhonpen5388 All of them originally had Alaya-Vinjana interface. The first Kimaris we saw was closer to a ceremonial suit than an actual combat configuration. Kimaris Vidar was based to how it looked like during the Calamity Wars. It's the Kimaris Vidar has it's own Dáinsleif launcher.
@@ignisofficialgaming I was thinking that ASW-G stood for "Ahab Synchronization Weapon-Gundam" since synchronized dual Ahab Reactors were the main special feature of Gundam Frames.
Me:Can we have the Hygogg?
Mom: we have the Hygogg at home
The Hygogg at home: 4:56
I cannot wait for the GUNDAM SEED future video!
1:12 gonna waiting for that to release
Can't say I blame you for not wanting to figure out some of the Turn A units. The Gozzo especially is a tossup. I remember reading early information that suggested the Gozzo was from the Wing After Colony timeline. Considering units like the Wing Gundam had a large glass dome on the chest, said technology could have been refined into the Gozzo's cockpit hatch. Some current information though seems to hint the Gozzo to be from the Gundam X timeline. Really it could be either of them.
1:58 That's just how the 4 Evil Kings of the Dark Gundam work, even though Master Asia didn't need DG cells in order to so it, as everything that came into contact with the Dark Gundam became JDG
Michello Chariot's Neros Gundam--> Soaring Raven Gundam
Gentle Chapman's Royal Gundam--> Grand Gundam
Allenby Beardsley's Nobel Gundam--> Walter Gundam
Another question to answer: How many Gundams actually survive their last episode? It seems to be tradition at this point to destroy a protagonist's Gundam during the finale. The ZZ was pretty much thought to be a goner til it came back up later in the manga.
Gundam 00 ELS Quanta, Burning Gundam, (I think V2, I am not sure because I never read the sequel Manga), 00 sky, core gundam, star build strike Gundam, age 1, age 2 dark hound, Age fx, and the unicorn gundam that is now in storage. I think that all of these ms survived their last episodes.
Zeta survived but it's pilot didn't. The f91 was damaged but in crossbone we see that seabook continued to use it
Zeta (wrecked in the last ep of ZZ), F91 (damaged but still operable), V2, God, all TV Wing's Gundam, Turn A (it just coated in MB's cocoon, the unit itself still intact together With Turn X), Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice, 00 Q [Ant] (upgraded into ELS Q[Ant]), AGE-1, AGE-2 and AGE-FX.
I've been watching your dev history and question of the week videos for a while and I really enjoy them. Regarding the W in gundam Airmaster. What if the W didn't mean Wing/Winged, but instead it meant Waverider? That could be an interesting twist.
You are entertaining for gundam info
im huge fan of this number series. can you cover next the ships across different gundam universes ?
For G Gundam the Numbers especially for Neo Japan could be using an Imperial Calendar Like Designation
Assuming the MS Frame is called the Type 71 which could mean it's MS-71 name or MA-60 as Type 60 Mobile Armor
Edit:
I'm assuming Neo Japan must be using these Designation due to previous Designation with military equipment as they have a tendency to do that especially with Armored Units or weaponry, especially with the Japanese Self Defense Force with their tanks being named by Year they were built or final approval
Like Type 90 Kyu-maru and Type 10 Hitomaru
I assume the entire Cosmic Era one is going to be a 20 minute video because I could remember about 16 Model Number Archetypes with just the first series alone.
I think that if we look deep enough on all previous show airing leading up to Turn A Gundam. We might have an answer, since Turn A is basicly accumulates all of the previous timeline mobile suit.
*Thinks of Gundam Seed model numbers.* Good luck and Godspeed.
Maybe the NEL-75C is Neo England Leisure? 75 being the model, and the C being a variant? Cater variant?
7:51 Winged ms
WINGS cus it transforms into a jet
The Zaku with the bazooka in the background doing his best was funny to notice.
I'm not sure that's a Zaku, the shield makes me think it's a Leo.
i see kakarot197 upload! i click!
I'm guessing in Turn-A they only used MS for more general-use suits they excavated, and more specialized designations for specialized units: SPA-51 Cannon Illefuto most likely means Self-Propelled Artillery. TAF-M9 Eagail might just be "Transformable M9"? Like everything else in Turn-A, it's a mishmash by design. But my hat's off to you for trying to tackle it.
Looking forward for the CE series.
There was info before on what the OMNI Enforcers numbers meant... But that was more than a decade ago
7:48 Probably W in Airmaster's number stood for "Winged Gundam" 🤷🏻♂️
Back in the 90's, I've watched these four gundam series, only gundam turnA disappoint me so I dropped it after watching few episodes but the rest I was able to finish all episodes
You should finish turn a it's amazing, you should see turn a more like a ghibli gundam
Turn A Gundam is like one of the best Gundam series to this date still. You should re-watch only if you going to pay attention to the details of story of it.
I can't believe your actually doing this lol.
Could you touch on the madwang manga from 1994? It's an interesting concept set place at 1160 UC
What's it about? 1160 is a long way ahead of 0079...
@@SoulstrikerV it's a lot different, ig you can say it doesn't even feel gundam anymore. I haven't really read it but it seems very interesting to me
Justyeet I read the mad Wang manga and the mech designs are weird and should be considered au instead of uc
Yey, it's here, buuut I'm expecting the Cosmic Era.
Question "Do you think Gundam Stats "make sense" vs their on screen depictions?" You use the information from the stats to inform your lore and development history videos but I've seen it said they have too many inconsistencies to be reliable (UA-camr boofire191 made a good video on this subject)
The S in the attack helicopter for Neo America could be for Strike (which is ground attack for aircraft. eg. F-15S
Strike Eagle, the ground attack focused variant). The USAF uses both strike and attack as words for ground warfare aerial units
Oh Boi Gundam Seed is up.
9:10 OH LAWD HE COMIN
The numbers on the X Gundams could be the year they were designed with the DX being designed before the war but manufactured afterwards. We don't know the calendar date before the war so it's a possibility.
The Turn A gundam model number to me is pretty obvious because they call it the white doll or WD, then m for mobile suit, it's the only one so 01. WD-M01. Then for moonrace, I think the Sumo being MRC and the excavator being MR is in fact to stand for MoonRace, but the sumo being a fighting unit means MoonRace Combat. Since the excavator is a civilian unit it does not get the combat designation.
Here is my question:
When was the first mobile suit in Universal Century that achieved atmospheric flight? And why wasn't it mass produced?
The first mobile suit to achieve atmospheric flight was the Gouf Flight Test Type and it went into limited production through the Gouf Flight Type we see in 08th. It never went into full mass production as its performance was below expectations. (Though ngl, I find them achieving atmospheric flight during the OYW to be kinda silly.)
Che I the bhyarlant dev history I belive he covers it there...
Every now and then I go back to this video and skip ahead to the Turn A part so I can grab a secure password.
4:55 Its beautiful
Maybe the r in the revolutionary mobile suits numbers stands for refurbished repurposed or retrofitted, I mean any one of those could fit with gundam x taking place after a war
You know I had a thought where Kakarot mentioned that he thinks the D in the UNE Model Numbers is actually due to the name of their machines always sporting Daugh at the front. Well, my idea would have Daugh being the actual company that developed and built the mobile suits. Or least the abbreviation for the company name anyways. Just a thought I had when he mentioned that during the video.
Vince, look at the closed caption text... it says your name is cockroach197 ... lol. Keep up the good work man I love your videos
I have yet another question of the week from Gundam Unicorn, what happened to the Gouf that came out the castle we see it show itself but does not show up at the Torrington battle.
I got a laugh out of seeing the Megas XLR.
Personally I'd the JMA-0530 (Model U) Walking dome's model number is very similar to those used by Neo Japan Mobile Armors during Future Century suggesting it could be from there. While the NRS-P701 Gozzo's numbering scheme bears resemblence to those used by the New UNE from Gundam X and during scenes where it's cockpit and control seat are visable they bear an exact resemblence to those used by the New UNE from Gundam X. Furthermore the Gozzo is said to be one of the oldest machines the Moonrace had access to.
Maybe to X DT means
Defender
Terran
11:04 royal mail ship 😂
The 29H-S-MS, I think the S stood for Specialist.
RIP Megas XLR was epic best homage show if it had gotten a third season oh the possibilities.
Mark this as the day Kakarot started to lose his mind.
I think he already lost it when he first made hazel madness series
eh, wait till he renames his channel to Jobby3
For the airmaster I think the W mean wing.
A rumor is that the WaDOM is actually a design from G-Gundam and that the JMA suffix meant Japanese Mobile Armor.
Maybe the Da was the 1st mobile suite in the timeline before after war.
Hi love your videos me and a friend of mine are having a hard time settling a debate about which amphibious mobile suit was better the federations aqua gm or the zeon hy gogg
Yay Gundam X!
7:50
Maybe the w stands for wing
I’m gonna guess the W on the Airmaster from AWX stands for “winged” since it flies in atmosphere
Even in the future century aquatic mobile suites look like they where made by aliens.
While I’m not exactly sure about most of the turn a mobile suits, the MA in the Wadoms name could simply mean moblie armour due to its large size and it’s not-exactly humanoid appearance but that is just a guess.
Question of the week (with regards to the model numbers):
RGM-89 is the vanilla Jegan which appeared in CCA, U.C.0093 and 1988 in the real world. RGM-89D is the 'Jegan D Type' or aka 'Jegan Type-D' according to the HGUC box arts that appeared in Gundam Unicorn, U.C.0096 and 2010 in real life. Also in Unicorn, the RGM-89A2 is simply 'Jegan Type-A2', the RGM-89De stands for 'Jegan D Ecoas Type' and the RGM-89S stands for the 'Stark Jegan' and the 'EWAC Jegan' was numbered RGM-89DEW. The 'Jegan Type-D Escort Type' from Gundam Narrative is numbered RGM-89D-ESC.
All that is understandable and reasonable. But when it comes to F91 I got super confused.
According to the PB HGUC box art, 'Jegan A Type' is numbered RGM-89R rather than RGM-89A, which I have absolutely no clue about what the R stands for and why it is not assigned the model number RGM-89A. The same goes for the RGM-89J 'Jegan Normal Type' and the RGM-89M 'Jegan B Type'. The R, the J and the M after Jegan's model number do not make any sense to me and I doubt there is something to do with the order the anime released in real life as well as a reason in the U.C. universe. What is your opinion on this as the expert on the model numbers?
question of the week.
if you can send 1 mass production unit (with a sufficiently trained old type pilot) from anywhere in the UC timeline back to OYW to single handedly win it for whichever side you choose which would it be?
This is fucking easy to answer: RGM-89S Stark Jegan and piloted by an unnamed veteran of the Second Neo Zeon conflict. He had Marida Cruz beat if it wasn't for that heavy ass anti-beam shielding she had on the front of the co-pit of the NZ-666 Kshatriya. If you put that unit and pilot (mind you he/she is an old-type) on the EFSF side he would wreck Zeon so badly they would give up the fight within first two months.
The flag with Graham Aker,
@@ten_of_diamonds7575 thats the AD timeline not UC but a Flag would wreck shop
Can I make a suggestion with the G Gundam model numbers? Instead of year it entered service, it could be the expected year of exiting service. Some gun companies do that to show how long they expect it to serve in a military, law enforcement, or just how long they originally plan to make parts for it.
I was thinking the numbers could be what iteration of that ms.
So I am curious what did both sides do with both the dead and survivors of any given engagement if the 1 year war and other wars?
DT is probably Daughtress Type
Doesn;t Moonrace uses machines fromDiferent universes/timelines thats why the JMA-0530 is Japan Mobile Armour (like in G Gundam)?
Except the JMA is strictly a moonrace machine. The only mobile suits that were dug up were zakus and capules...and i guess whatever the queens old flame piloted...
@@bryfunkenstein Actually. Apparently, it is now said to be dug up from the Moon's Moon Cycles before the start of the series.
@@robertdrexel2043 could be...could be...
@@bryfunkenstein Muttowoo, Zssan and Turn-X was MS that dug up by Moonrace.
@@seabookarno1664 i was thinking about what was dug up on earth. I know some of the moonrace stuff was dug up too. But to say something is japanese when it was dug up by the moonrace seems weird
That Mexico mobile suit looks like a kappa hahaha
"W is Wumbo" - Patrick Star
Well, I've theory that Gozzo's NRS is related to NR/NRX from After War era. Either an error in their database, or the Black History's After War era isn't exactly the same as After War era we know.
for neo England the t in their model suit could type so net6-ms could mean Neo England Type 6 - Mobile Suit.
Bandai, where are the other 3 evil kings in High Grade???
Soaring Raven Gundam
Grand Gundam
Walter Gundam
U know, someone from Sunrise & Bandai should publish a Gundam Encyclopedia w/ a glossary of designation suffixes divided into which timeline & faction, so it would make it much easier 4 us 2 understand. Someone should publish Jane's Mighty Mechs.
DT either Dah type of Dah Technology, like it's named after the developer.
Nel could be Neo England Liason
Day 1 on asking Kakarot to do a G generation Crossrays Playthrough. 🤣
Xabungle has steering wheels XD
Neo England Lease
Best guess I have.
Horray for SpongeBob reference!
what do think would of happed if the jestas in unicorn made it in time for the attack on Torrington base
MG P-143S pescatore & also PG Nether Gundam with motorized windmill unit when Bandai?
I'm suddenly regretting having no images for the units from my novel... They're easy! EMMF - Earth Machine Mobile Forces, the Gundams developed on Earth in secret; OC-X are mass-produced Mobile Suits developed by ONI from one of the missing Gundam blueprints; MNSF - Martian Naval Special Forces, the Gundams developed from the other three missing blueprints; MAGB and MAGB-T2, the letters are Mobile Armour follwed by the nation to which it belongs, in this example Grand Britain, followed by sequential numbers as per tradition, while T2 refers to the small build number Whalebanes, so big they require two pilots, though they're not much bigger than the kind of Glider seen in Stargate SG-1, each pilot operates either flight or weapons, it can be swapped round mid-flight should such a need ever arise!
Could you make more video like why zeon/titans are defeated? Also, a question, why does gundam in seed destiny made by ZAFT doesn't follow the aesthetics of their other MS: having the monoeye.
He does have old videos on why Zeon and the Titans lost
Question: How do pilots control a mobile suit really? I know that most MS cockpits have two levers/sticks similar to the throttle lever we have in airplanes, and they're also equipped with foot-pedals. But how do MS pilots control the roll, the yaw and the axis movement of the MS, not to mention the individual hand or arm movements we see when an MS tries to grab something, etc...
There is a video that show how an ms is controled: ua-cam.com/video/y4HSI4_yNF4/v-deo.html
There is also the intro scene in Unicorn the pilot using multiple buttons in the throttle from the stark jaegan.
They use OS for MS, something that only explored by SEED-Destiny although not in very detail manner.
Yo!!!!!!!!
I have a question, what happened to Sweetwater after Char's Rebellion? I have looked every where to answer this question but I can't find anything...
The NRS-P701 seems like a X design and the TAF-M9 looks like a SEED design. So, combined multiverse... Yeah.
For the NEL-75C how about Neo England Labor(er) - 75C?
Clearly NEL means Neo Elegant Lad
P-143S is clearly Parry the platypus
TA is destined to be a “Sum up”，so every universe model conversion before TA can be showed
turn a is simply explanation for the sumo its the MRC means moon race combatant, for the others well im under the impression that they are all produced by different manufacturers