How Mainstream HIJACKED Emo
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
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Old Emo vs Modern emo, whats the difference? where did it come from? and how did it go from an underground style of music to a fashion trend and lifestyle?
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sick twinkly stuff at 10:38 is @echoisaband - Ігри
i thought i read somewhere guy and ian started Embrace together but i was wrong :( not sure how i fucked that up
I fix corrections here
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they started fugazi together
Heavy Metal got hijacked by MTV, and Grunge replaced it after it got hijacked by the mainstream. There's a ton of history with makeovers, trends, and industry plants, because it all is show business. Once a genre is monetized, maxxed out then tossed aside to make way for the next thing you can market, it goes in the discount bin and the industry moves on. . Thanks for digging up the origins of a genre close to many a tattered heart.
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So in other words....the definition/meaning of emo has just changed and gotten broader over time. That's just the way music works. It doesn't mean someone is wrong for immediately associating emo with, say, MCR. Sure, it's not the roots of emo, but to plenty of people they've been synonymous with that style for literally two decades. Great vid.
Thanks dude glad you enjoyed!
I would say both are emo
Mainstream emo and emocore are different, but both are valid definitions of emo, saying this as a diehard lover of both
I would say emo changed the meaning to mainstream and emo hardcore is what used to be emo imo
Interesting history lesson but honestly I can’t keep track with what bands I’m “allowed” to call emo and whatnot (as someone who’s music taste ranges from 90s screamo like pg99, combat wounded veteran and orchid, to fall out boy and pierce the veil etc).
Basically all the bands that reject the “emo” label, from the 80s DC scene and 90s second wave of Midwest bands as well as bands from around the country like Mineral, Sunny Day Real Estate, and Jimmy Eat World are who you’re “allowed” to call emo lol. All the third wave stuff is the “mainstream” emo, though there is a bit of a gray area there with bands like Thursday, Finch, Saves the Day, etc.
The truth is, the label is more personal in most cases; when I think emo I think of the bands I was into in the late 90s like The Promise Ring, Jimmy Eat World, The Get Up Kids, Cursive, Braid, Texas is the Reason, and on and on. When you use the word emo with most people, they’re going to think of the 3rd Wave stuff like My Chemical Romance mall emo, and has a much more polished and pop-punk sound. A lot of the earlier Midwest stuff was much rougher around the edges, especially vocally (as some of those bands had some complicated stuff musically)
who cares
In the nicest way, emo is emotional hardcore not post-hardcore and pop-punk hope that helps.
@@wyominn5181 stop
American Football was highly influential in the Midwest Emo community too! Absolutely love that band, LP 1 spins constantly this time of year for me :)
why not in September?
Eyein Mickay.😂
Lol how can you possibly miss pronounce “Ian”
Even Gerard Way said the bands not emo
True, but he also said "I just got so emo i fell apart" lmao
Johnnie Guilbert
Good example
The urge to type real emo copypasta is hard on this one 💯‼️
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Emo bands hates being called EMO..
It isnt new
korn which is technically the one who accidentally invented the NU Metal genre Hated the NU Metal label
also.. one of the recnet hatebreed and all that remains hates being called Metalcore
It;s a cycle that bands hated the genre they are in..
The 'core' in emocore speaks to the element of "70's arena rock" et cetera, that was a missing link between Pet Sounds /'66 and the eighties, emocore, as you describe. Think of modern country taking on elements of rock and pop to get to where it is now, from the age of early American genres.
The "core" comes from "emotional hardcore"
This was an argument even back when I was a true "mallcore" emo 2005-2010ish. We associated "emo" with the fashion we wore, not necessarily the music. It was usually people on the outside of the culture that lumped all the bands into the "emo" category.
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Really awesome video and heck yeahhhh you used my comment on the video. Freakin awesome!
I always say The Used because Noone ever talks about them except when i was in school. I bought their first album in 8th grade with the song "A box full of sharp objects". Exactly when you said Emo was becoming mainstream around 2005ish in school.
Also Great Job on the time lines on this. You really nailed it 👍
low mispronouncing both Ian and guy's names lol
how do you pronounce guy? lmao
are you going to do a video on scene kids? i think it would make a good sequel to this video because both subcultures are related
this is a good idea!
Forgot to mention the RAWRing 20's and E.N.D. and how just those two alone killed off Zoomer emo before it really went anywhere. It also didnt help that Zoomer Emo frontmen just kept dying
what
look I'm probably roughly the same age as you. grew up in the MCR days.
I was never a fan of any of these bands. But the thing is, the term changed meanings. This happens with a lot of genre's and the purists always hate it. Take country music for instance. if you put Hank Williams Sr. on, and then play Florida Georgia line, it's not the same genre at all. But it's still considered country. in reality new country is much closer to southern rock.
same is true for pop. The Beatles were pop, Michael Jackson was pop. listen to either of them, then put LMFAO party rock on. and tell me that's the same genre. It's not.
but genre's change with time just like people do. So MCR is emo, but also the original DC hardcore bands were too. It just evolved.
Well said!
Yeah this is what I’m saying in the video haha
@@VIIZZZYY more or less a tl;dr lol
bro beach boys aint first in emo
most blues is sad asf
Great video!!
Could you also do movie on Darkwave? Like no one is talking about Sisters of mercy (and Andrews massive influence Leonard Cohen) for example
SoM are goth.
@@4EverGoth that too
what does leonard Cohen have to do with goth?
My favorite part is how the 2000's emo kids just looked like updated hair metal musicians. Nothing ever really changes.
I've been getting a succession of those "click right here" (by announcer) and there being nothing to click on, lately - is that because I'm on da mobile?
Emo is a scene not a genre and like ever genre it just evolves
I agree!
@@VIIZZZYY You agree with what? That comment makes no sense. first it says emo is a scene and not a genre of music (which is already wrong btw, unless you were one of those gatekeepers and would only consider just one of the "eras" or "scenes" emo, but it doesnt seem like you do from watching the video) and then they go on to say "like every genre it evolves"(which would've make sense, if he didn't previously said that emo isn't a genre, it's a scene" still wrong because those scene did exist then, and soem still exist today ), contraditicting what they just said right before! So not sure waht you're agreeing with... Did you even read what that guy wrote? Cuz it's barely a sentence, makes no sense, he says one nonsensical thing and immediately contradicts himself in the same sentence!
Mcrs first record was emo it was also produced by the singer of Thursday
this was a good video man
thanks dawg means alot
FINCH MENTIONED!!!!!!!
Iron mckay lmaooo
The emo beach boys 😂
1:16 CAPN JAZZ MENTIONED!!!
theyre actually so good!
@@VIIZZZYY i'm from the chicagoland area, which is where they're from. that's like... REALLY emo...😂
14:52 annnnnd here’s where I disagree fully because what the fuck. Music should be about music, not about dressing up and pretending to be shit you’re not.
15:25 There is no such thing as emo rap is just rap with sad lyrics i find this term kinda weird
GRAY MATTER MENTIONED‼️‼️
haha thanks for watching!
This is the best video I've seen on the history of emo!! Well done!!!
thanks for the inclusion in this awesome video! i loved watching it! 💛
you got it! xoxo
All music is emotional, i don’t understand what calling something emo even denotes? So if a band writes great emotional lyrics like Paramore, that automatically makes them emo?
in my opinion todays emo is basically aesthetic and lyrical theme
Because emo is short for emotional hardcore… the whole point is it’s hardcore genre
no 2000’s screamo bands mentioned
Bro It’s pronounced page ninety nine. Not pg 99 😂 also guy from Rites of Spring wasn’t in embrace he was however in Fugazi with Ian.
I had a feeling it was page 99 lmao I flipped a coin on how to pronounce it, also I could have sworn I seen somewhere that embrace had both guy and Ian
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It’s like death metal, only for people who think “feel sorry for me please” is a personality trait
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Wish it hadn’t then I could of seen less of it 😂
Coming from the "screamo" scene and growing up with 2000's Bullet For My Valentine, Alesana, Eyes Set To Kill, etc... I was always a bit bugged when I heard "pop punk emos" consider themselves emos. I deeply cherished those days and the culture we had back then. But as you mentioned, it's become an umbrella word, and they're somehow part of the history of the genre so I guess I have to accept it 🥹
EDIT: these bands I used to listen to aren't trve emo as well so I was clearly in the wrong for judging lol, lesson learned with time
And back then i would have been bugged by you calling yourself an emo because i was listening to actual post hardcore
Alesana and Eyes Set To Kill are as "real" emo as pop punk bands are 😭
That's kind of hypocritical. You don't even listen to pure emo bands. Who are you to judge them?
Hahaha let's be honest, I wasn't very bright back then, we learned with time that emo is indeed very very wide and I should not judge
Pg. 99 is PAGE 99... Jesus fuck..
I feel like most of these people in the comments are just old boomers and I feel like emo is all big now cause if Tik Tok which kinda sucks in a way. Especially for emo UA-camrs too. I like how they are big now like Johnnie Guilbert but I’m sick of the new fans.
btw guy is pronounced gee
Thanks dude!
Mf’s made fun of me in high school n now everyone likes the same stuff I did
i was gonna mention this in the video too lmao
Nirvana was the grunge movement.
Emo is a pejorative. Emo has nothing to do with punk rock or hardcore. Emo is power-pop adjacent; nothing against power-pop -- I love Fountains of Wayne and Nada Surf -- but let's not pretend it's even slightly punk-related.
Emo bands might've listened to punk and hardcore, but they're unable to play it because they're not punks. It's the same reason MGK isn't punk.
There is no “correct” history. It’s all opinion pieces and labeling based on opinions. If someone wants to identify as Emo, that’s their choice and their right. As is disagreeing is a person’s right. I disagree with much of this video.
Peegee99?? Brother its pageninetynine