Firestorm - Strategic or Terror Bombing? - Sabaton History 098 [Official]

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  • Опубліковано 16 гру 2020
  • At the end of July 1943, Hamburg burned. A fleet of British heavy bombers had dropped thousands of incendiaries over the city, turning it into a hearth of unprecedented dimensions. Numerous major fires merged together into a single storm of fire. Structures combusted under the immense heat, as strong winds drove the inferno through the streets at rapid speed. Craving for more oxygen, the firestorm sucked human bodies into the flames and immediately incinerated or mummified them. Thousands of others died slowly of carbon monoxide poisoning in their shelters. By the end of the raid, 60% of Hamburg had been burned out and more than 35,000 of its inhabitants were dead. But while the Germans were shocked to disbelief, for the British the firestorm has worked as intended. And this was just the beginning.
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    Written by: Markus Linke and Indy Neidell
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    Creative Producer: Maria Kyhle
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 823

  • @SabatonHistory
    @SabatonHistory  Рік тому +15

    What are your thoughts on this point in history? Sound off in the comment section.
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    • @pfdrtom
      @pfdrtom Рік тому

      Why Dresden? Because Germans lived there. I had an uncle I never got to meet die in that war (yes, I'm an older guy), because of the Holocaust, because of the brutality of the Nazis, and because Hitler was elected by German citizens, I have no problem at all with these bombings.

  • @Davyc712
    @Davyc712 3 роки тому +892

    "The atom bomb, so the argument went, might actually be more humane."
    That sent chills down my spine...

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 3 роки тому +20

      Yeah.... Jeez....

    • @slacksviii9824
      @slacksviii9824 3 роки тому +4

      Same

    • @Zakatak-mf4iq
      @Zakatak-mf4iq 3 роки тому +75

      Yeah, pretty much. Total war is indeed total. Although imo I think Harris's quote about reaping the whirlwind applied to Japan as well. It is indeed terrible, but the Axis leader's were the ones that dragged their nations into war, committed genocide, and then refused to surrender, willing to sacrifice the populace to avoid justice for a little while longer.

    • @d3Rm0Nk
      @d3Rm0Nk 3 роки тому +27

      Not only because they so nonchalantly defended the use of a weapon they didn't really understand yet and dismissed the possible outcome for it's victims but also because they aknowledge that firebombs are in fact not exactly the most humane in the first place ...

    • @Slavic_Goblin
      @Slavic_Goblin 3 роки тому +9

      Except, it's not the case.
      The aftermath of the firebombing, while horrendous, was still lesser than the atom bomb's.

  • @Yora21
    @Yora21 3 роки тому +142

    In 1946, American analysts reviewed the destruction from the atomic bomb in Nagasaki, and concluded "the damage was not nearly as bad as in Hamburg".

    • @skillet682
      @skillet682 9 місяців тому

      The "atomic bomb" was just a firestorm from regular bombing.

  • @justinswinehart5361
    @justinswinehart5361 3 роки тому +618

    I absolutely love that Joakim is wearing a Monty Python shirt. And it's honestly one of my favorite skits of all time.

    • @jlyo1991
      @jlyo1991 3 роки тому +24

      *Sad Spanish Inquisition noises*

    • @Markok1911
      @Markok1911 3 роки тому +16

      Mayby a song about ancient Rome is finally coming?
      Joakim, if You're reading it - write that down, write that down! :D

    • @Kenadian2006
      @Kenadian2006 3 роки тому +5

      Right? I want that shirt so bad.

    • @youtuber-gl5ym
      @youtuber-gl5ym 3 роки тому +2

      Why is this written 1 day a ago?

    • @youtuber-gl5ym
      @youtuber-gl5ym 3 роки тому

      This video was uploaded one hour a ago

  • @connorbeyak5162
    @connorbeyak5162 3 роки тому +269

    "What did the Romans ever do for us?" "Toilets"

    • @slacksviii9824
      @slacksviii9824 3 роки тому +8

      But the Japanese took the idea and ran with it

    • @BlaudracheLP
      @BlaudracheLP 3 роки тому +19

      @@slacksviii9824 Behold. The watered shitter that moistens thy butt!

    • @ChIpMuNkDeLtA
      @ChIpMuNkDeLtA 3 роки тому +4

      Brought Peace?

    • @Meirstein
      @Meirstein 3 роки тому +1

      @@ChIpMuNkDeLtA Peace? Shut up!

    • @bremc666
      @bremc666 3 роки тому +4

      @@Meirstein Yes, from August to Marcus Aurelius there was 200 yere long peace cald pax romana, which is astonishing for the time to only have war with neighbors for that long on that massive area.

  • @mekhane675
    @mekhane675 3 роки тому +540

    First part: "In total war, there are no true 'good guys'. The best you can get is a light grey."
    Second part: "Hey Joakim, how massive do you think the Hulk's dong is?"

  • @filipsalcer
    @filipsalcer 3 роки тому +189

    >be me
    >have a ton of homework with deadline ruthlessly approaching
    >sabaton history releases a video
    >homework can wait

    • @squirmymetal5060
      @squirmymetal5060 3 роки тому +1

      Same bro

    • @elliott421
      @elliott421 3 роки тому

      Who knows, maybe something SH says in this video can apply to your homework. If not, oh well.

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 3 роки тому +2

      Atleast Sabaton History is educational so it's acceptable.

    • @user-ex1cu8vf5j
      @user-ex1cu8vf5j 3 роки тому

      Что мы говорим домашней работе? Тоже что богу смерти, не сегодня.

  • @user-mj6fk5xx6h
    @user-mj6fk5xx6h 3 роки тому +463

    This is "almost every single song"
    The last one - SWEDISH PAGANS

    • @JojokimVT
      @JojokimVT 3 роки тому +36

      If we are lucky, they will save that song for the 100th episode, which is just in 2 weeks.

    • @zanderdupont9287
      @zanderdupont9287 3 роки тому +11

      @@JojokimVT and the last one of 2020

    • @tomppeli.
      @tomppeli. 3 роки тому +26

      WooOO'oh, wooOOoo'oh...

    • @Zivon96
      @Zivon96 3 роки тому +12

      Quoth Tommy and Thobbe: "I wanna play Swedish Pagans"

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 3 роки тому +2

      and it's nearly 100 of them jeez.

  • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment
    @Big_E_Soul_Fragment 3 роки тому +99

    14:10 "Death from above" -Sun Tzu, Art of War

  • @kamalinsofiya
    @kamalinsofiya 3 роки тому +293

    Last one to wait: SWEDISH PAGANS!!!
    (This is how to trigger Joakim off)

    • @JojokimVT
      @JojokimVT 3 роки тому +16

      Another way to trigger Joakim is to include Tommy in that episode

    • @DC-ru5xz
      @DC-ru5xz 3 роки тому +4

      @@JojokimVT And as a special guest, Thobbe too!

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 3 роки тому +4

      Having Tommy in a sabaton history episode would be interesting.

    • @pieterjanbuysse3747
      @pieterjanbuysse3747 3 роки тому +2

      wooooh-woooooooooh-woooooooh

    • @josephpeck8723
      @josephpeck8723 3 роки тому +1

      @@Thomas.Wright Ah, I see you are a fellow person of culture as well, comrade.

  • @MDMetal
    @MDMetal 3 роки тому +164

    Time for a *_Beasts of War_* album, guys!
    Hannibal's elephants
    The Great Emu War
    Sergeant Stubby (America's first and most highly decorated war dog)
    Cher Ami (the pigeon that saved the 77th in the Argonne)
    Wojtek
    etc.

    • @vsmaster123
      @vsmaster123 3 роки тому +17

      Don't forget unsinkable sam

    • @ollebo
      @ollebo 3 роки тому +8

      And for B sides, songs about Nils Olav (a penguin) and William Windsor (a goat)

    • @GinraiPrime666
      @GinraiPrime666 3 роки тому +7

      Definitely would love to hear something for Stubby and Wojtek! :D

    • @katiereithmeier2890
      @katiereithmeier2890 3 роки тому +6

      Saturn the gator

    • @weerwolfproductions
      @weerwolfproductions 2 роки тому +5

      I think there's a statue somewhere in the USA of a marine with four legs and a horse's head. He would take himself back to the supply train, where they'd load up ammunition and then he'd walk himself back to the front line. Sergeant Reckless.

  • @BlondMysz
    @BlondMysz 3 роки тому +240

    Joakim seems to learn only really essential and useful sentences of other languages :D

    • @mats7492
      @mats7492 3 роки тому +28

      Noch ein Bier

    • @6th_Army
      @6th_Army 3 роки тому +29

      @@mats7492 Arguably the ONLY sentence anyone needs to know.

  • @thescollard8764
    @thescollard8764 3 роки тому +245

    That interview section had some of the biggest whiplash I've ever experienced in Sabaton History. Going from a depressing topic like carpet bombing to Sun Tzu riding a flying carpet, the phone call skit with Indy, and the talk about the Incredible Hulk's package was certainly an experience. I think I was genuinely laughing at some points during the discussion, like when Pär (yes, with an 'ä') butted in.

    • @BeaglzRok1
      @BeaglzRok1 3 роки тому +10

      #JoakimKilledPär

    • @MrSam1er
      @MrSam1er 3 роки тому +6

      I too have this great power : ä ë ï ö ü ÿ, I have them all !!!

  • @hitomisalazar4073
    @hitomisalazar4073 3 роки тому +30

    Talking about Bomber Harris there always reminds me of a line from his American counterpart in the Pacific Theater, Curtis LeMay who organized similar incendiary attacks against Japanese residential districts and civilian targets that were well beyond declared sacrosanct by international treaties like hospitals and emergency services. If I remember it came about after the war, 1950 or so. And he said something to the effect of: "If we hadn't won the war me and my ilk would have been tried as the greatest war criminals in history."

    • @optimisticnihilist3417
      @optimisticnihilist3417 2 роки тому +2

      He's not wrong. When it comes down to it, the only crime in war is to lose.

  • @Zeroless
    @Zeroless 3 роки тому +38

    I didn't even realize the regular songs were through already

  • @luciussvartwulf6630
    @luciussvartwulf6630 3 роки тому +100

    "If it is strategic when you do it to your enemy, but terrorism when your enemy does it to you, that is all the answer you need to your question."

    • @stastu6484
      @stastu6484 3 роки тому +3

      Whose quote is that

    • @luciussvartwulf6630
      @luciussvartwulf6630 3 роки тому +15

      @@stastu6484 mine, though i'm sure someone smarter than me has said something like it before.

    • @luciussvartwulf6630
      @luciussvartwulf6630 3 роки тому +24

      @@Unknown_Genius true, but the issue isn't people being terrified, its the use of terrorism as a tactic, or more accurately hypocritically labeling something terrorism when the enemy does it, but then turning around and justifying the same act or worse as "strategic" when you do it.
      The Brits blasted the hell out of the Nazis for bombing civilians, calling absolutely evil...but then suddenly it was morally okay to not just bomb civilians, but to deliberately bomb them in such a way as to maximize the loss of human life? Even in war there must be standards and morals. If it was acceptable for the allies to firebomb civilians, then Hitler did nothing wrong when he did the same. And if Hitler was evil for bombing civilians...then the allies too committed great and terrible evil.

    • @luciussvartwulf6630
      @luciussvartwulf6630 3 роки тому +13

      @@Unknown_Genius true. not that that stops anyone from insisting they're the good guys when they're just as horrible as the "bad guys."

    • @mikatu
      @mikatu 3 роки тому +4

      I believe the difference is "if you do it during the war is strategic, if you do it in times of peace it is terrorism"

  • @Freedomfighter205
    @Freedomfighter205 3 роки тому +126

    This is gonna be an Arthur “ fire up the lancers” Harris video isn’t it?

  • @sistra8930
    @sistra8930 3 роки тому +33

    If you are finished with all regular songs of the albums, that can mean one thing: Time for a new album :)

    • @josephpeck8723
      @josephpeck8723 3 роки тому

      They missed a couple though-"Swedish Pagans," but also "Glorious Land." I'm interested in the stories behind those songs.

  • @Scroll120
    @Scroll120 3 роки тому +24

    Man, I fear the day the channel runs out of songs, tho there are still topics Sabaton could cover, Seven Years War, Napoleonic Era, Franco-Prussuan War, Sengoku Jidai, Roman Empire, 100 years war, man humanity has a long history...

    • @ivangenov6782
      @ivangenov6782 3 роки тому +4

      Or american Revolution (but make sure the tea u droppin in water isn't shown to british people) or pearl harbor or Force Z (was it force Z I can't remember) or maybe the battle of jutland.

  • @ghazghkullthraka9714
    @ghazghkullthraka9714 3 роки тому +79

    Can we get a history of ‘Camouflage?’ Telling the stories of literal ghosts in warfare

    • @gendumthegreat805
      @gendumthegreat805 3 роки тому +8

      That’s a cover of really old song

    • @Damien.D
      @Damien.D 3 роки тому +6

      @@gendumthegreat805 Yeah but there are true stories in that regard someway, including a japanese soldier lost in the jungle who thought WWII wasn't over until the late 50's

    • @Hendricus56
      @Hendricus56 3 роки тому +1

      @@Damien.D even one who fought until the 70s

    • @dr.history3567
      @dr.history3567 3 роки тому +1

      I think operation wandering soul and psychological warfare would be a match for the song camouflage

  • @Jbcblack
    @Jbcblack 3 роки тому +65

    I always thought this was about the us firebombing Japan, damn

    • @rinoz47
      @rinoz47 3 роки тому

      Jfc me too...

    • @sovietpie
      @sovietpie 3 роки тому +27

      it could apply to both cases

    • @alexamerling79
      @alexamerling79 3 роки тому +2

      I thought it was about both

    • @rogueleader7506
      @rogueleader7506 3 роки тому +1

      The blitz for me

    • @KaptenN
      @KaptenN 3 роки тому +1

      I confused this song with Nuclear Attack.

  • @kerlongsjorlejov1945
    @kerlongsjorlejov1945 3 роки тому +23

    Nearly done. Always wondered why this track wasn't covered in lineups. Now, I know.

  • @falloutlover5443
    @falloutlover5443 3 роки тому +6

    I left the room for 45 seconds and the subject went from an album's play to inviting the Hulk to have relations in the kitchen.
    Still more historical than The History Channel.

  • @joshuaolejasz9590
    @joshuaolejasz9590 3 роки тому +11

    "Messups in the high command", understatement of the century, the army and navy where pretty much literally at each others throats

  • @SpaceDuckQuack
    @SpaceDuckQuack 3 роки тому +9

    A normal conversation: *exists*
    Indy: but what is the Hulk packing tho? 🤔

  • @YberFrank
    @YberFrank 3 роки тому +75

    It's time for:
    "History of Sabaton."
    "History of Rockstad:Falun/Sabaton open air."
    Special: "History of Indy and Spartacus."
    And as a curveball: "History of Sabatons hometown Falun."

  • @loltwest9423
    @loltwest9423 3 роки тому +29

    One of my more favorite songs from The Art of War album, not just for its adrenalin pumping music, but also the dreadful and terrifying lyrics. Seriously if you guys ever performed this song live again, you better have sirens going off when the lyrics "the sirens scream out loud" come up. That would just send chills down my spine.
    Also, did anyone else expect this song to be about Napalm bombing runs during Vietnam? At least at first glance?

    • @JohnSmith-kb4re
      @JohnSmith-kb4re 2 роки тому +1

      >did anyone else expect this song to be about Napalm bombing runs
      that's just natural. anglo crimes against humanity have no end.

    • @edorasmarauder5761
      @edorasmarauder5761 2 роки тому +3

      I think the effect would be better if the sirens went off before the start of the song imo.

  • @kingdraconias
    @kingdraconias 3 роки тому +17

    SUN TZU ON A FLYING CARPET IS THE BEST THING I'VE SEEN ALL YEAR! I choked on my tongue I laughed so hard. And then the mixups with the Dutch language followed by the corrections, despite the subject being incredibly horrifying (I never knew the US firebombed Tokyo, we never learned that in school, I only ever learned we bombed HIroshima and Nagasaki), I laughed so much during this episode.
    Thank you guys so much for adding levity to the video despite the serious nature of the song. It always makes me smile, even if I'm havin a tough time right now cause I've had 5 finals this month with my 5th and final one tomorrow. I'll keep soldiering on, but these videos are always a bright spot in my week.

  • @hanshelga
    @hanshelga 3 роки тому +64

    I own a bass and an ä-key so I guess I am qualified and will be expecting a call. #JoakimKilledPär

    • @Jacks_Bad_Ideas
      @Jacks_Bad_Ideas 3 роки тому +11

      #joakimKilledPär
      Copy and paste but I only got a trumpet

    • @turkayaydogan
      @turkayaydogan 3 роки тому +6

      I can play a piano if you guys need one #Sabaton #JoakimKilledPär.

    • @xmgzsandwich
      @xmgzsandwich 3 роки тому +2

      I have pads if you need some pads. Or a tuba

    • @VeraTR909
      @VeraTR909 3 роки тому +5

      I tune my bass in ä-key.

    • @Submarine_2010
      @Submarine_2010 3 роки тому +1

      I can play the drums if that helps

  • @armandomoraes3429
    @armandomoraes3429 3 роки тому +12

    16:30 poor Pär...

  • @lux_wil
    @lux_wil 3 роки тому +27

    Did you ever do an Episode about the song Camouflage? Or is it not invluded because it's a bonus track?

    • @micahdadbeh5955
      @micahdadbeh5955 3 роки тому +3

      No, because camouflage is a cover of a Stan Ridgeway song from back in the 80s

    • @camilogonzalez5576
      @camilogonzalez5576 3 роки тому +5

      It is a cover. But it's a great song. They should do it

    • @Bazerald777
      @Bazerald777 3 роки тому +1

      @Kiryan cover with a wrong lyric mind you

    • @micahdadbeh5955
      @micahdadbeh5955 3 роки тому

      @@camilogonzalez5576 not only that, it’s a cover for a song with a fictional premise

    • @camilogonzalez5576
      @camilogonzalez5576 3 роки тому +3

      @@micahdadbeh5955 sure, but it would be a chance to talk about Vietnam, PTSD, drugs and the American soldiers, mythology of the war...

  • @darthcalanil5333
    @darthcalanil5333 3 роки тому +19

    I have the absolute blessing of having a German keyboard so that I can easily type PÄR with the correct umlaut XD

  • @metroplexgrimlock7089
    @metroplexgrimlock7089 3 роки тому +14

    I hate to say it, but I'm learning more history from a heavy metal band than some guy standing in a classroom with 20-30 kids

    • @claytonplays8722
      @claytonplays8722 2 роки тому +1

      Hate to say it? Dont you mean you *love* to say it?

    • @metroplexgrimlock7089
      @metroplexgrimlock7089 2 роки тому

      @@claytonplays8722 yes

    • @beng6480
      @beng6480 2 роки тому +1

      That is because the american school system is horrible. I am obviously assuming your an american so if I am wrong just ignore this comment.

    • @metroplexgrimlock7089
      @metroplexgrimlock7089 2 роки тому

      @@beng6480 I am, and I agree

  • @spencergorman366
    @spencergorman366 3 роки тому +10

    You should do Shadows and make the history part about the history of the Nazgul

    • @josephpeck8723
      @josephpeck8723 3 роки тому +1

      That would be interesting in more ways than one. Tolkien (may he rest in Piece) could be incredibly vague; the history of the Nazgul is one such instance. What we know for certain: they were once Men who were given Nine of the Rings of Power, three were Numenorian lords, one was an Easterling, four others are unknown, and their leader was once the Witch King of Angmar, and is the greatest of the Nazgul. The Nazgul were Sauron's chief minions, and were essentially unkillable so long as Sauron was around. They were sent from Mordor to hunt Frodo and the Ring; later on, the Witch King of Angmar led Sauron's forces at the Siege of Minas Tirith and the Battle of the Pellenor Fields, where a prophecy regarding said King came into effect: he technically was not killed by a man, anyway you look at it. When the One Ring was destroyed, so were the Nazgul. That is what we know for certain. It would be cool to watch a video about possible theories though.

    • @pemithmithsara7632
      @pemithmithsara7632 2 роки тому +2

      Intoo the middle earth... The Mordor Army marched!!

  • @TheMmus
    @TheMmus 3 роки тому +33

    Now this was dark. Indy gave me the chills summing up "An atom bomb might have actually been more humane."
    But anyhow, what I'm mostly thinking about right now, is Neuken in de Keuken.

    • @thepsychicspoon5984
      @thepsychicspoon5984 3 роки тому +3

      I came to that same conclusion diving deeper in the wars.
      This was a war completely driven by hatred by all involved.
      All the combative countries have deliberately targeted civilians, the only limitations being the capabilities of the war machines themselves.
      What is the difference between 1000 bombers dropping 100,000 lbs vs one bomber with one bomb, the destruction levels being the same.
      To me that is probably the scariest thing about nuclear weapons: It was just a cheaper way to do what they were already doing.

    • @andreasgaming9765
      @andreasgaming9765 3 роки тому +1

      As Sweden Neuken in de Keuken this sound so funny lol

  • @janknoblich4129
    @janknoblich4129 3 роки тому +7

    Even as a german I never heard about this. Thank you for covering this
    Edit: especially the Hamburg part. Dresden I knew

  • @jeffstowe4860
    @jeffstowe4860 Рік тому +1

    I can binge watch and listen your history vids indefinitely! SUBSCRIBED.

  • @MrTheBaron
    @MrTheBaron 3 роки тому +9

    16:50 Looks at bass: *My time has come!*

  • @karlstone297
    @karlstone297 3 роки тому +6

    I adore this song, always makes me put my foot down just a little bit while driving.

    • @miskapiska2188
      @miskapiska2188 3 роки тому +3

      Officer you don't understand Sabaton was on.

  • @Numorfutinca
    @Numorfutinca 3 роки тому +8

    I think you missed The Hammer Has Fallen
    Please cover that too I love the song

  • @diapason89
    @diapason89 3 роки тому +2

    "We can't get an illustration of flying carpets dropping bombs."
    You underestimate the power of the Internet, Indy.

  • @mosstarproductions3843
    @mosstarproductions3843 3 роки тому

    Thank you for doing one of my favorite songs from Sabaton

  • @thompsonM1928a4
    @thompsonM1928a4 3 роки тому

    Please keep on coming with the history episodes! Maybe go into further detail of existing songs which you already covered? Looking forward to sabaton history each week!!

  • @zikcan
    @zikcan 3 роки тому +1

    I where on the Sabaton cruise that year when you played 7734.. The thing is, I was so extremely surprised that you played it, (because it's one of my top three favorite Sabaton songs) that it took me half way trough the song to enjoy it to the max.

  • @YoYoCheese6
    @YoYoCheese6 3 роки тому +33

    You could do an episode about Shadows. It could cover the writing of and\or the cultural impact of Lord of the Rings. It could also be a Bio Special of sorts for Tolkien.

    • @JustinLaFleur1990
      @JustinLaFleur1990 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah that would be awesome, and Indy could mention Tolkien's impact on rock and metal as any rock or metal band worth their salt has a song about LOTR. Or In Amon Amarth's (who Sabaton covered Twilight of the Thunder God from) case named their band after Tolkien's works.

    • @josephpeck8723
      @josephpeck8723 3 роки тому +1

      Yes! That would be amazing!

  • @xmgzsandwich
    @xmgzsandwich 3 роки тому +7

    I'm glad that none of this is being forgotten.

    • @swampy81
      @swampy81 3 роки тому +1

      These crimes against civilians like in Dresden will never be forgotten!

    • @Kyle-gw6qp
      @Kyle-gw6qp 3 роки тому

      @@swampy81 not crimes. These people needed to be bombed.

    • @swampy81
      @swampy81 3 роки тому +1

      @@Kyle-gw6qp A city full of refugees...don't talk nonsense

    • @Kyle-gw6qp
      @Kyle-gw6qp 3 роки тому

      @@swampy81 refugees of which country? Civilians of which country? The war had to be won. The end definitely justifies the means.

    • @swampy81
      @swampy81 3 роки тому +1

      @@Kyle-gw6qp Refugees from Silesia maybe? Do you have any idea about what you are commenting? The Hague Convention was already valid at that time. You are really not the brightest candle on the pie.

  • @JustinLaFleur1990
    @JustinLaFleur1990 3 роки тому +3

    You know what this means right, Sabaton needs to do another album to keep Indy busy.

  • @PanzerMan332
    @PanzerMan332 3 роки тому +5

    Arthur Harris had the same realization a lot of commanders that saw combat in their youth came to: The longer you try to prolong the conflict in hopes of reducing casualties, the more blood is spilled.

    • @rockyblacksmith
      @rockyblacksmith 2 роки тому +1

      Soo you butcher civilians to save your soldiers? Is that what this lesson is?
      If so, I guess Al Quaida are the true heirs of Arthur Harris.

  • @mattkent4397
    @mattkent4397 3 роки тому +2

    Started dark ended light. Every Sabaton history episode

  • @truegrit2060
    @truegrit2060 3 роки тому +68

    The warning at the beginning of this video was so you don't get hit with a ban hammer from evil UA-cam?🤔😥

    • @jamesstraw9732
      @jamesstraw9732 3 роки тому

      Probably

    • @galactica604
      @galactica604 3 роки тому +4

      No , just because prevent kid to watch

    • @AnonPanzer
      @AnonPanzer 3 роки тому +5

      And youtube only punish axis crimes, ally crimes doesn't even care.

    • @DarrenOrson
      @DarrenOrson 3 роки тому

      Don't need a bunch of Karens mass reporting videos.

    • @suntiger745
      @suntiger745 2 роки тому +3

      I think the pictures of kids and adults burned to a crisp might have something to do with it. It’s not something everyone can handle seeing.

  • @CobaltLancer
    @CobaltLancer 3 роки тому +8

    5:35
    I live in Cologne. Shocking that it was a war zone 80 years ago

    • @alexamerling79
      @alexamerling79 3 роки тому +1

      Right? I spent a summer in Koeln and its amazing how it looks now compared to 1945.

    • @CobaltLancer
      @CobaltLancer 3 роки тому

      @@alexamerling79 Yup

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 3 роки тому

      And there was that one tank duel that is decently well covered in that city as well.
      for a pretty much tiny event its one of the most well known ones.

    • @alexamerling79
      @alexamerling79 3 роки тому

      @@davidty2006 I remember reading about that.

  • @ronnieramsten6389
    @ronnieramsten6389 2 роки тому +1

    One of my favourite Sabaton song! Good history behind the song, and Indy Neidell it’s an awesome storyteller!!! I like him very much! Great job to Indy and Sabaton history channel!!!

  • @grotenbink
    @grotenbink 3 роки тому +5

    Sabatons show of Heroes on tour at Amsterdam, was by far the most amazing show I have ever seen! BROEK UIT, OP JE HOOFD! \m/.

  • @666bluegreen
    @666bluegreen 3 роки тому +5

    This just means they needed to release another album, maybe even make it a double album. In this case, we all win, more awesome Sabaton songs and more episodes of Sabaton history.

  • @KatherinaBathory
    @KatherinaBathory 3 роки тому +2

    Such a dark chapter in history and yet I can't stop giggling at that quote on Joakim's t-shirt! I love that scene and that movie xP

  • @DuncanNat
    @DuncanNat 2 роки тому +1

    I’m from the Netherlands and I just watched this episode. It was really fun hearing you guys mention a tour you did in the Netherlands and trying to speak Dutch! I will see you for the first time in March next year! I’m VERY excited!

  • @CaptainSully101
    @CaptainSully101 3 роки тому +8

    Could you guys do the Sabaton song Shadows and just talk about Lord of The Rings history

  • @codeine6483
    @codeine6483 3 роки тому

    I have been waiting for this for so longggggg

  • @Yora21
    @Yora21 3 роки тому +6

    - "How many war crimes do you wish to commit?"
    - "Yes!"

    • @Drache191200
      @Drache191200 3 роки тому +3

      Welcome to the Allies, you can commit warcrimes and get away with it

    • @unowenwashere2782
      @unowenwashere2782 3 роки тому

      @@Drache191200 that's why I love the allies hahahahahaha

    • @Drache191200
      @Drache191200 2 роки тому

      @Sacred Squadron SAS The allies did much worse things? Yes, I totally agree

    • @optimisticnihilist3417
      @optimisticnihilist3417 2 роки тому

      @Parthenax nobody gives a shit about allied war crimes because the allies won. That's it. Nothing else. The same would be true for the axis if they had won. When it comes right down to it, the only crime in war is to lose because the victors get to choose the narrative.

  • @greenrepublic8875
    @greenrepublic8875 3 роки тому +1

    This is the first time they gave a warning that is how good this song is

  • @jamesharding3459
    @jamesharding3459 3 роки тому +2

    You know you’ve got an obsession when you at least recognize all the Metallizer songs when they mention them.

  • @KaptenN
    @KaptenN 3 роки тому +3

    Fire arrows weren't a thing used to light the enemy on fire. They blow out when the arrow is loosened due to the speed. Even if they hadn't blown out, it would be hard for the arrows to light anything on fire. There were specially designed fire arrows that didn't blow out, but they were most likely used for signalling.

  • @lopenash
    @lopenash 3 роки тому +1

    I love this editor so much!

  • @theblackprince1346
    @theblackprince1346 3 роки тому

    A great song from my favourite sabaton album.

  • @twintailedfox5254
    @twintailedfox5254 3 роки тому +3

    There is the song The Hammer has Fallen maybe that could be a song you take a look in

  • @kingextorp2478
    @kingextorp2478 3 роки тому +7

    Can you make episodes about the bonus like Glorious Land and Camouflage ?!

    • @EJ_Red
      @EJ_Red 3 роки тому +2

      Glorious Land was a bonus? Sounded like part of the actual album, fit well with the theme

    • @jsmith4liberty
      @jsmith4liberty 3 роки тому

      Glorious land wasn't a bonus afaik, it just didn't cover any historical topic but rather a concept

    • @sander6438
      @sander6438 3 роки тому

      Camouflage is a cover done by sabaton

  • @LillaIgelkotten
    @LillaIgelkotten 3 роки тому +6

    I know it is sort of a cover, but by when could we expect the video for "Långa bollar på Bengt"?

  • @braddavis8797
    @braddavis8797 3 роки тому +2

    I’m still waiting for the camouflage episode. It’s a bonus song but it’s great.

    • @Damien.D
      @Damien.D 3 роки тому

      Yeah but it's a cover, and not related to any peculiar historical fact. Just about vietnam war and PTSD, which is a very broad topic that should be covered.

  • @alelalle
    @alelalle 3 роки тому +15

    I demand "shadows" next 😂

    • @acrosticrampage9420
      @acrosticrampage9420 3 роки тому +2

      Yes.
      Ash nazg durbatulûk
      Ash nazg gimbatul
      Ash nazg thrakatulûk
      Agh burzum-ishi krimpatul

    • @josephpeck8723
      @josephpeck8723 3 роки тому

      As a Tolkien nerd, I agree 100%

  • @rinoz47
    @rinoz47 3 роки тому +7

    The answer? Yes. Its both. There cannot be one without the other.

  • @nicholaszaborny423
    @nicholaszaborny423 3 роки тому +1

    History rocks keep it up 👍

  • @rhysgoodman7628
    @rhysgoodman7628 2 роки тому +2

    Britain designed some crazy shit during and before the war. The first nuclear weapons program, the earthquake bombs, radar, cavity magnetron for radar, proximity fuzes, first jet engine, etc.
    Stalin was right when he said that the war was won with “British brains, American brawn, and Russian blood”.
    Britain’s Tube Alloys project was sent over to America where it was renamed the Manhattan Project. Britain needs more recognition!

  • @Ba-gb4br
    @Ba-gb4br 3 роки тому +3

    This song is just underrated

  • @freelander2739
    @freelander2739 3 роки тому +1

    I actually like ''collecting'' songs I heard live and i always love when they play something unexpected :)

  • @danielboll52
    @danielboll52 3 роки тому

    I love this song- my favorite one!

  • @gcookson76
    @gcookson76 3 роки тому +1

    Great history lesson!
    Seriously, I would not care what songs you guys would sing!
    I love them all! Even Metalizer!

  • @biswaroopmukherjee7450
    @biswaroopmukherjee7450 3 роки тому +3

    They covered Amon Amarth's 'Twilight of the Thunder God' as a bonus track on one of their albums. Would love to see it here - an episode on Norse history and folklore - the battle of Ragnarok!!

    • @michalsnaiberg2734
      @michalsnaiberg2734 3 роки тому +2

      Could be a double episode with Swedish Pagans being told about as well.

  • @MEVU12
    @MEVU12 3 роки тому +5

    Indy: We've done e'm all!
    Meanwhile Glorious Land crying in a corner

    • @MercenaryPen
      @MercenaryPen 3 роки тому

      maybe its part of the current batch?

  • @fin4204
    @fin4204 3 роки тому +2

    I saw a Reddit comment about a Dutch poem of the bombing of Rotterdam.
    "Reminds me of a Dutch poem about the German bombing of Rotterdam in 1940, made as a reaction to a German poster telling us that the Allied bombers are merciless:
    Er kwamen vliegers aangevlogen,
    There, the pilots came flying over,
    Haast als lammetjes zoo zacht;
    Oh, as soft as lambs;
    Die hebben vol van mededoogen,
    They, filled with compassion,
    'n Bezoek aan Rotterdam gebracht.
    visited Rotterdam.
    Ze lieten daar hun bommen vallen,
    There, they dropped their bombs,
    Door liefd' en teederheid bezield......
    filled with love and tenderness....
    De vliegers, die genade kennen,
    The pilots who know mercy,
    Die hebben Rotterdam vernield!
    they destroyed Rotterdam!
    Daar werd een ziekenhuis getroffen,
    There, they hit a hospital,
    (waarop een Roodekruisvlag stond!)
    (which was flying a Red-Cross flag!)
    Daar was het, dat men alle eischen
    There it was, that all requirements
    van Recht en van Beschaving schond.
    to be Just or Civilized, were ignored.
    Daar stonden duizendtallen huizen
    There stood thousands of houses
    In weinig tijds in vuur en vlam......
    shortly after turned into fire and flame...
    De vliegers, die genade kennen,
    The pilots who know mercy,
    Die bombardeerden Rotterdam!
    they bombed Rotterdam!
    Daar werden vrouwen, grijsaards, kind'ren
    There women, elderly, children
    Door dat GENADIGE geweld,
    through that MERCIFUL violence,
    Bij 't ijdel vluchten door de vuurzee,
    while fleeing through a sea of fire,
    Door vallend steen ter neer geveld.
    were killed by falling rocks.
    Daar vluchtten angstig opgejaagden
    There the frightened refugees fled
    Over de vuur'ge straten voort......
    through the burning streets...
    De vliegers, die genade kennen,
    The pilots who know mercy,
    Die hebben duizenden vermoord!
    have murdered thousands!
    Vanuit de Rotterdamsche puinhoop
    From the ruins of Rotterdam
    Stijgt fel en rauw de schelle kreet,
    fierce and raw the loud cry goes up,
    ‘Zie en onthoud, wat hier geschied is,
    'See and remember, what happened here,
    Wie hier genade gelden deed!’
    who subjected us to their mercy!'
    Die kreet weerklinke allerwege
    That cry went up everywhere
    Door ons geknechte Nederland:
    through our subjugated Netherlands:
    De vliegers, die genade kennen,
    The pilots who know mercy,
    Die hebben Rotterdam verbrand!
    have burned Rotterdam!"
    Edit: everything in quotes was not written by me.

  • @RainerChris1
    @RainerChris1 Рік тому +1

    I am not tough enough for this episode,because so many of my relatives died in the firestorm,still see it as a criminal act against civilians who had nothing to do with the war at all

  • @jannwue
    @jannwue 3 роки тому +18

    Not doubting any right the Allies hat to go to war. But considering an attack on Tokyo as retaliation for an attack on a military target just does not sound just...

    • @evanceier8577
      @evanceier8577 3 роки тому +4

      We were targeting the Japanese and german means to make war, i.e. factories and assembly lines hitting their civilians was all but unavoidable, pearl harbor was an attack purely on military targets because the couldn't attack our infrastructure effectively and wanted to avoid antagonizing us by hitting our civilians intentionally, compare that to nazi germany who chose to attack london and other cities INSTEAD of legitimate military targets like airfields and radar site's sacrificing strategic needs so they could directly target civilians. Make no mistake allied strategic bombings were strategically necessary to shorten the war and entirely justified. The only reason japan never targeted our civilians is because they were never able to after pearl. Look at what they did to civilians in the islands, and those people were technically part for the Japanese empire.

    • @evanceier8577
      @evanceier8577 3 роки тому +4

      @@anna-lenaeggenstein541 I am aware of that stuff but again it was for a reason, to get rid of the damn and disrupt production. Yes civilians were killed in the hundreds of thousands, and I'm not trying to say it was entirely just or morally good but I do think it was necessary. Don't get me wrong it was still a horrible things but main point is just that as awful as all this stuff was I think it was ultimately justified. But more than that I don't think thus stuff should be compared to nazi war crimes because of the motivation, allies committed war crimes to try and end the war, nazis committed war crimes to exterminate "undesirables"
      I'm not gonna argue its a good thing or a moral thing, just like dropping the bomb on hiroshima and nagasaki it was a bad thing but it had to be done to end the war.

    • @cloudtail
      @cloudtail 2 роки тому +1

      @@evanceier8577 Undesirables that backstabbed their nation for years. They worked with the bolsheviks and got what they deserved. Fire bombing white European city to dust has no excuse.

    • @evanceier8577
      @evanceier8577 2 роки тому

      @@cloudtail im gonna choose to assume you're joking and not actually a straight up nazi.

  • @tlsgrz6194
    @tlsgrz6194 3 роки тому +2

    I live near Hamburg and just last week an unexploded WW2 bomb was disarmed in my town. Today they announced another one was found, so that‘s going to be taken care of some time in the next weeks. Fitting for that Video to come out today

  • @XxRaginKJxX
    @XxRaginKJxX 3 роки тому +1

    Would be a cool one for 7734, reading through youtube comments on the song theres a ton of different peoples interpretations of the song and it would be interesting to see some of those and yours explored as a song that could pottentially have a few different meanings/fit with them.

  • @TheIfifi
    @TheIfifi 3 роки тому +3

    Strategy or terror?
    well rather tragedly. Those two are not mutually exclusively.

  • @CAepicreviews
    @CAepicreviews 3 роки тому +1

    I love how they go from talking about thousands dying in a firestorm and the question of whether it was ethical or not to talking about whether or not the Hulk has a massive Schlong or not within minutes

  • @impliedtomato8760
    @impliedtomato8760 3 роки тому

    Can't wait to see what happens next

  • @Yora21
    @Yora21 3 роки тому +1

    4:42 That's Lübeck, my parents live just to the right of the frame.

    • @yeoldeyoungin9745
      @yeoldeyoungin9745 3 роки тому

      I’m glad they were ok (or THEIR) parents; I guess it’s not a war crime when we do it! (I say ‘we’ because I’m American)

  • @jeffd5113
    @jeffd5113 3 роки тому +5

    Never expect going from carpet bombings to the Hulk's junk

  • @galis4383
    @galis4383 3 роки тому +5

    Birds of war!
    Finally tell us if it really is about Chaos Raptors from Warhammer 40k.

  • @xcritic9671
    @xcritic9671 3 роки тому +1

    You can tell its from one of the old albums by the almost complete lack of any rhyming in the lyrics. Again, I'm glad they've improved so much since then.

  • @truckersmiky
    @truckersmiky Рік тому

    Sabaton History-Shadows!
    And What par said speeder

  • @elsydeon666
    @elsydeon666 2 роки тому

    I never realized that the AoW quote was from the section named "Attack by Fire" until today.

  • @lavrentivs9891
    @lavrentivs9891 3 роки тому +1

    We need a video on "Shadows", that could easily be made into a history video telling us the background of the dark riders.

  • @chedelirio6984
    @chedelirio6984 3 роки тому +9

    One thing they might have noticed at some point: mass civilian death from above was *not* breaking the will to fight of *either* side.

    • @beng6480
      @beng6480 2 роки тому +1

      this is true. Germany fought until the entire country was conquered and their leader dead. It's kind of ironic that the people who are famous for never surrendering surrendered before an enemy soldier stepped foot on the mainland while the germans fought to the end.

    • @rxfclaymore8782
      @rxfclaymore8782 2 роки тому

      @@beng6480 who are these people who are famous for never surrendering yet surrendered before an enemy soldier stepped foot in their land

    • @gramioerie_xi133
      @gramioerie_xi133 2 роки тому

      @@rxfclaymore8782 japan i guess

    • @takebacktheholyland9306
      @takebacktheholyland9306 Рік тому +1

      It's actually ironic, because of all nations to know this first, it should've been britain because if not the german bombing raids they wouldn't have been unified enough to hold the germans back at the battle of britain

  • @Strothy2
    @Strothy2 3 роки тому +3

    My Grandmother was in Berlin 1945, you can't believe the stories she can tell, the fires were bad, but what came after was worse... not exploded incendiary bombs in the stairwells is something you really don't wanna find when coming out of your bunker and trying to get back into your more or less destroyed home to save what is left...

  • @mpcrauzer
    @mpcrauzer 3 роки тому +2

    There's so many undetonated bombs in Europe that the treat can still come to live, its like every bombing campaing was planned to keep going even after the war if you stop to think about It, no one can predict such an event after the bombings, especially those with civilian targets

  • @DraterTTV
    @DraterTTV 2 роки тому +1

    I love the Life of Brian T shirt lmao

  • @megacheeseheadmegacheesehe2889
    @megacheeseheadmegacheesehe2889 3 роки тому +1

    It's time for Sabaton History to connect what individual events (in history) has done to make modern day times normal.

  • @BosenBesNQ
    @BosenBesNQ 3 роки тому +1

    BROEK UIT OP JE HOOFD! Finally seeing the Dutch Sabaton tradition mentioned. I was at the Amsterdam Great War show and was introduced to it. Great to see and hopefully the guys tackle dutch history soon!

  • @lolathescruff
    @lolathescruff 3 роки тому

    This is absolutely insane
    Edit- Sabaton needs to make a new album by the looks of things