Can we please take the time to give this man a hand. He went threw ever detail of the garrison buildings and how to make money the most effective way using said building. Sub and like for you sir.
Figured this was worth revisiting one last time since it's a question I get a lot. If you plan on doing some profession leveling, I have some 1-700 guides in the description that you may find useful. Also, you may notice that the gold estimation in the title/icon is less than in the video. This is on purpose. I always try to undershoot my estimations as to not mislead/disappoint people. If you were to actively farm the mines, pet menagerie, herb garden and you get lucky with those 6.2 missions I'd say that on average 3000g/day would still be a pretty reserved estimate. Let me know your thoughts on this and if you have any follow-up questions. Like I mentioned I'll try to keep all of this as updated as I can with annotations and such, but just keep in mind the date that this was posted. Thanks for watching and good luck!
interesting points ,if anyone else needs to find out about wow gold making guide try Pycanta Warcraft Protocol (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some awesome things about it and my co-worker got amazing success with it.
Thanks dude, really been helpful to me in the past week. I can't even explain how much I've gotten back into the money aspect and upkeep of my garrison. keep up the awesome work man!
You always make very useful videos,it was vert helpful to me,it's a really good method to get some extra gold while waiting Legion. Your doing an amazing work,keep it that way Mad:)
I figured all these by myself before but it was still very nice to verify them. Keep up the great work man! Obtw scribes could also occasionaly gain a lot from darkmoon cards so i tend to try my luck at least 2 times a day and selling some of them for 600+ gold... Just my 2 coins ;)
It may cut into your time as well, but having a bunker you get the iron horde scraps, which can currently purchase cosmetic items, they can be sold for 11-24 gold each and are BoA.
Keep your blacksmith building up and have a follower in it. That allows you to keep your armour from being damaged while fighting all across the world. Yes, if you die it goes away, but for normal farming it helps keep the cost down.
Yes savage blood are because you can still trade them in for the purse. Thats 50 gold minimum. Haven't found any use for felblight yet. The upgrades don't seem to be selling on my server
I just did tailoring and enchanting for all my characters. Also made sure I recruited all my followers to have extreme scavenging. I also made sure that one of my alts had alchemy to transmute sorcerous air/water/fire to earth. My income comes from selling hexweave bags, Enchanting dust/Crystals and fur. My buildings are :inn,barracks,war mill,trading post,tailoring,enchanting,scavenging. I find this setup the best for time.
While I've been following this set up mostly, with the exception I'm running enchanting huts because I don't want to give up professions for inscription. But everything else I'm following. Another option I'm toying with is removing the enchanting huts and putting in a bank for the increased amount of work orders. I believe that with a level 3 bank, you can max out work orders and only have to collect them once every 4 days, further decreasing how much time you spend in the garrison daily. Just as long as you log in and do your mission table, you can spend less than a minute in the garrison daily, except on that 4th day.
Still a good setup. I currently have 4 lvl 3 garrisons, so each one is slightly different, but they're still lucrative. Of course, the four toons have Tailoring/Enchanting, Herbalism/Alchemy, Blacksmithing/Mining, and my main, with two gathering professions (Mining/Skinning). Hexweave bags are going for around 2k on my server. The gambling cards are worthless.
Also there is an Abandoned Mining Pick treasure in Spires of Arak that allows you stack mining speed with the Garrison looted mining pick that you get from mining carts so you can speed through gathering in your LVL 3 Mines.
Thanks for the video, I've been super bummed about the nerfs for a while now. I had few characters with a full amount of follower armory pieces, they went from like 25g a stack to 1s or something like that, infuriated me that 500g was gone just like that. I still pop on my characters to see if there's any rare missions, some of those still give good AH rewards. The Gronn mount sells for like 500g, the oil sells for like 250g, and the ogre resources sells for like 200g as well. The big money item is the medallion that gives reputation, sells for around 6,000g. Overall, waiting for Legion's official release, hopefully Demon Hunters and the Invasions keep me sated. Great videos MadSeason!
I actually use the barn to farm my furs. I think it is much more effective than the trader, which is what I used to use. with the barn you can go out and farm beasts for about an hour and that 1 hour grind will give you about a weeks worth of work orders. over a weeks time you will probably spend about an hour in your trading post, or doing things to get resources for your trading post, and your trading post doesn't give you savage bloods. also, you don't get the perks of having a level 3 barn, like 110% movement speed or being able to perform actions while mounted. I feel like the barn is MUCH more effective.
Also still only 1000 garrision resources for rush order barn. You get much more fur and bonus savage bloods than buying trading post. And so easy to stock weeks of animals doing in groups as above commenter pointed out. I get so much fur that sell the rest.
hey, you can also get 30 gold every day if you have engineering at 700 and the engineering booth. with your daily cd you will produce 20 gearspring parts and there are two items which cost exactly 20 gearspring parts, which is the megawatt filament and hemet's heartseeker. they both sell at a vendor for 30 gold. I thought it's a nice add to your video :)
Great vid! For myself I'm just using the Garrison as a one stop shop for an AH, Transmog, Bank and Gbank. It's very useful but doesn't make me any money! Will incorprorate some of this :D
Thanks for the guide. Just like you said, I think I'm going to abandon them still no matter how lucrative they may be. I followed your previous gold making guide for the garrison, and ive made a ton using it. Thanks for the vids
Do trader Yula and Elder Suirehide still show up? I've been trying to check every day, and haven't seen Surehide even once since the patch. I've been using the vendor that sells Sumptuous Fur for 20 resources because I'm starting to think Blizzard sent Elder Surehide to sleep with the fishes.
im just getting back into wow, is there a level requirement for garrison? i got the legion collectors edition, so i got a level 100 boost i can use, but i wanna use the garrison to recruit followers and make money while i level up my main and some new characters
Is it worth doing this if you are completing starting from a lvl 1 garrison 0 followers. Would take almost 6 months to get the followers correct and the gold investment as well. I have about 400k liquid gold but im curious if this is worthwhile to set up on multiple characters. Or if this is for someone who has already set something up and wants to change it for passive gold in legion. @MadSeasonShow
Loved the Garrison gold guide. The one part I really got attached to was the Tailoring Hexweave bag guide. I rushed home thinking I had a 700 tailoring on one of my toons. Sadly.....no. I have 700 in Inscription, Enchanting, Jewelcrafting, Engineering. On my main I have LW and skinning and will likely keep that heading into Legion. Also have BS and Mining on DK but will keep those as well. So, my question is, Is it possible to drop one of those and level tailoring to 700 to take advantage of the bag making gold selling plan?? Or it really is not worth it? If you think it is worth it, which one of the 4 professions I have would you ditch in Legion based upon the information you have now? Thanks again. Great guide as always.
Hey Jmac! At this point there really wouldnt be any reason to try and take advantage of the hexweave bag plan since DH are released tomorrow. In general though tailoring + the emporium will be pretty good in terms of gold making. I personally would get rid of JC since their daily quest got nerfed, but that's just me. Also keep in mind that pretty much every profession will be lucrative during the first month or two of legion. I'd only build around this setup if you plan on keeping your character in the garrison. Hope this helps! Thanks for watching.
you aren't using the gorepetal gloves from nagrand to herb your garden, they speed up herbing so much it no longer feels like a pain to do it on every toon.
Isn't it worth it for tailoring to craft one of each of the transmog set and then build on a bag stock? I usually sell the transmog about every week or two at 5k a piece.
Thanks for watching, Michael. I keep all of my banking with the guild bank. For this expansion I went ahead and made a dedicated bank to supply myself with all of this. If I ever run out of materials, I can quickly use that mobile banking perk and grab what I need. Pretty handy!
Another amazing video. You do the math and everything. I gave you a subscribe and sending this to friends. Please do something like this for the class order halls once legion hits :)
Nice advice. Only criticism I'd have is that I don't think it's going to be worth transmuting elements into earth for a long time - the alchemy stone vendors for 20ish gold, which puts a bottom price on Alchemy Catalysts of 4g, not going to be worth spending those on the transmute for a long time.
Thanks for the video, your guides have been very helpful on understanding garrisons and the changes that came with the pre patch. I'd like to hear your thoughts on how we can leverage demon hunters when they come out for this kind of gold making or if they wont be worth it
Thanks for watching Thraxis! Demon hunters are great for this since they start at level 100, so there's way less of a time investment since you get to skip all of that leveling. There's still a hefty gold investment with the buildings, profession leveling, and follwer leveling but like I mentioned in the video, if you stick with it in the long run it should pay off. Demon hunters are also great for "once per character" ways to make gold(a new series I'm working on). More stuff regarding that shortly =)
There are two items in draenor that allow you to mine and herb faster, making both much more lucrative, when you have 11+ characters its intensely time consuming, shaving any seconds off is nice.
Firstly, thank you for all the hard work and time that you have invested in your video's. I watch all of your video's and you do some great stuff. My questions are; do you do Tailoring on all of your characters? Do you, or does any one else in chat know of a video guide that will help me level up my garrison followers and get them geared up? I feel like i am missing out on some good garrison loot. And lastly, i was originally planning on going with Tailoring and Alchemy for all of my toons (minus a guy with mining and possibly a blacksmith as well) i feel like i would make some Good gold just making hexweave bags all the time and doing transmute spec in alchemy and doing whatever transmute is selling for the most, every day. What do you think of that plan? Thank you
Thanks for watching! I actually have blacksmithing on a couple of my characters, but that's only because they have unobtainable plans and I couldn't bring myself to drop it. Ideally though I would want all tailors. I'm not sure about video guides, but as for gearing up your followers quickly look for the "frozen arms of a hero" on the auction house. This increases both your follower's armor and weapon Ilevels by 50 which is really nice. As for leveling them from 90-100, you may want to look into getting the harrison jones follower. He has a perk that allows you to powerlevel followers on the same mission as him. He can take a while to get though. Check out the comments on this link for more info: www.wowhead.com/follower=465/harrison-jones I do also have a video for that but it's pretty old! And your plan sounds fine. Like I said what you saw in this video isn't the "be all end all" ultimate setup - it's just one that I like. I think your tailoring/alchemy/blacksmith plan will still make you some good gold once you have everything leveled up. Hope this helps! Have a good one =)
+MadSeasonShow thanks very much for getting back to me so quickly and thank you for the link and the Harrison Jones tip. I just can't bring myself to completely ditch a very passive way of making gold with my garrisons. So looks like it's follower levelling time for me.
You mean the BOE stuff like armor and weapons? It's possible I guess. I'd think they would have most of their value now rather than later, but they may have that transmog value later on the road.
Hello, love your guides. Is this still accurate and up to date as of 7.3.2? I guess there's no reason to think it wouldn't be, but before i invest the time in getting this set up i want to make sure it's not a waste of time. Thanks
i can trap around 200 wolves in 1 hr, 1 cage gives about 100g each from 1 blood + 22 fur, thats 20.000g for 1 hr farming, which is more than ive seen from any gold farming guide. i can only imagine that ill be able to farm more at lvl 110, maybe 300 pr hr with only spawnrates holding me back. the barn rush order completes 5 cages, thats 500g for 1000 resources. but yea i got 6 million gold now, so i cba doing this in legion.. not untill i run out of gold or anything better to do
i still keep up the level 3 building that gives you the free token for raiding, and the follower tokens, much much later on the tokens can be used for bonus loot (GOLD) while running at higher level with more people!
Great video, thank you. Could you do a Legion gold video for those with a lot of alts? So pretty much, a way we can make gold and not spend a lot of time on the alts. I have 64 100's at the moment and checking the gold missions in WoD took me 3 hours everyday alone.
I don't think anything will beat the old garrison missions, but I do have a couple things in mind that altoholics such as yourself may find useful. Also, I hear class halls will also be capable of making some gold. There might be a problem with order hall resources though - I hear it's not as self sustainable as the garrison.
Hard to say - hopefully not. I think we've weathered the nerf storm but you can never be 100% sure. Regardless unless things are insanely drastic this will most likely be the last time I revisit this. Hopefully annotations will suffice if things do change =)
They don't show up daily, but usually in groups of 2-3 every couple days. On average it's around 6-8 a week so I just rounded it to 7 to make the math easier =)
Yeah i was gonna say if you are running alchemy you can just use a few of those catalysts to xmute from air or water to earth. If I recall correctly the recipe is on the daily trader visitor that pops up now and again.
I have 4 main characters that I run garrisons with.. I set them up with tailoring alchemist and inscription several weeks ago and what I have done over that time I see that instead of cards with inscription I sell weapon crystals for about 3k gold.. they only cost 70 war paints 15 savage blood and 15 sorcerous water to make and I have 4 barns so it all comes from doing a little leg work.. with barns I never need to buy fur or savage blood infact I normally sell about 200 savage bloods a week from rushing barn orders..
I use to do cards, and someone asked me to make him a weapon crystal and gave me 4k for it is how I got the idea.. best day I had as far as making gold I made 60k in one day of making top tier upgrades a week ago... but I also buy and resell anything I can make a profit on by just playing the market
Yep the only thing that's instant gold are the philosopher's stones. The bags and cards are usually pretty easy sales though as long as you're undercutting. Usually gold value can be a little iffy, especially with anything related to transmogs. But for the most part everything in this video should be a pretty quick sale. Just depends on your server's economy I guess.
Allright, Tank you! For the Cards of Omen, im to lazy to sell them on the auction house, because they dont sell. Maybe its because its a low population server. I just open them, still good profit.
+ExBruinsFan get that shit bro. draenor's questline is actually fun. its immersive, and the game does a good job at actually making you feel super important lmao. "Commander." ;)
I disagree on how you handle inscription. I'm not sure spending your War Paints on the cards is such a good idea. 5 War Paints result in 10 Cards of Omen, which sell for about 10g each. So 5 Paints = 100g or 1 Paint = 20g. Now if you look at the DMF trinkets that can be upgraded to stage 6/6 ilvl 715. Starting from the base ilvl 640 (which you can buy or make yourself, you need 45 Savage Bloods, 90 Felblights, 45 Sorcerous Water and 90 Sorcerous Fire, and 735 War Paints to upgrade it all the way to ilvl 715. On my server, these upgraded trinekts are still selling for 24k or more (at least for now, maybe demand for these can stop at any point now) Now let's convert all these mats to raw gold value. Savage Bloods average 60g each, Felblights 15g, and the Sorcerous item 1g each. Total gold value of everything combined = 45x60 + 90x15 + 90x1 + 45x1 = 4185g. Subtracted from the total price of the trinket, this gives 24.000 - 4.185 = ~20k. So the value of 735 War Paints equals 20k, or about 30g per Paint. This value becomes slightly higher if you use your own mats, because let's be honest, apart from Savage Bloods, the other stuff is super easy to get with the doubled Felblights drop from Kazzak and Shipyard providing even more Sorcerous items. Thoughts? Also Alchemical Catalysts stack go for 1k or more on the AH sometimes. It's worth checking their price, either to sell stacks yourself if prices are high, or buy them to convert them to Philosopher Stones if they go for 600g or less at the time.
Definitely an option. For me though, the cards sort of follow the "lazy" approach that I have going on. Usually I have a harder time selling those trinkets, and I think they're something that may lower in price once everyone moves onto Legion content. This can put a fire under your butt to sell them ASAP and not to overstock to where you have too many that you can sell before the 30th. As long as those cards omens remain untouched, they should be relatively timeless. For now though it's a solid option for those willing to put more work in for more gold(depending on the server). I was also wondering if they may also see an increase when demon hunters come out. There has to be some people out there who want to max out there character before Legion, even if it's only 3 weeks away. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Shadioow. More options are always good =)
hey mad I've been watching since you had 240ish followers and I feel like you're not feeling it anymore making wow videos. Do you think wow is dying? I'm getting my friends to try to play but I'm not sure it'll help my realm went to poo.:c
On the contrary. Right now I feel like I've hit my stride video wise and I'm as excited as ever for Legion! I have a ton of friends coming back and we're looking to get some PvP action in this xpac - it should be fun times. I think WoW will be fine. I have very high hopes for Legion. As long as they give it the support that it needs I think it'll be one of the better expansions.
Understandable. I mentioned this in the video as well but I personally won't be farming them once Legion comes out. At least in the beginning anyways. If things ever stagnate like they did with Draenor I may come back to them out of boredom but at least for the beginning of the expansion I want to focus on Legion content. I don't think there's anything wrong with still wanting to farm garrisons though - it's still decently profitable and it doesn't take a whole lot of effort at all =)
Too many. They're actually there for the shadowmourne questline. For this expansion I wanted to max out my garrison and I made death knights since they start at 55 and they're eligible for that quest. You can get some pretty expensive stuff from that =)
Can we please take the time to give this man a hand. He went threw ever detail of the garrison buildings and how to make money the most effective way using said building. Sub and like for you sir.
Figured this was worth revisiting one last time since it's a question I get a lot. If you plan on doing some profession leveling, I have some 1-700 guides in the description that you may find useful.
Also, you may notice that the gold estimation in the title/icon is less than in the video. This is on purpose. I always try to undershoot my estimations as to not mislead/disappoint people. If you were to actively farm the mines, pet menagerie, herb garden and you get lucky with those 6.2 missions I'd say that on average 3000g/day would still be a pretty reserved estimate.
Let me know your thoughts on this and if you have any follow-up questions. Like I mentioned I'll try to keep all of this as updated as I can with annotations and such, but just keep in mind the date that this was posted.
Thanks for watching and good luck!
So I don't know why it took me this long to realize it... but you're on my server, super interesting, well... howdy!
Is it 1k gold per toon?
interesting points ,if anyone else needs to find out about wow gold making guide try Pycanta Warcraft Protocol (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some awesome things about it and my co-worker got amazing success with it.
Thanks dude, really been helpful to me in the past week. I can't even explain how much I've gotten back into the money aspect and upkeep of my garrison. keep up the awesome work man!
Glad this could be of some help to you. Thank you for watching!
I have watched this vid. 3x times and paused/backed up it several times. As we speak I have replaced 5 store houses w/alchy. labs. Good vid. tyvm.
Nice! Does this still work in Shadowlands and in Pre-Patch-Shadowlands? :-)
Your channel has become my go to for guides after watching your earning underlight angler artifact power fast guide.
yeah, this is the vid i was waitin for, thanks!
Awesome, best economy video ive seen in a looong time. Thks dude!
You always make very useful videos,it was vert helpful to me,it's a really good method to get some extra gold while waiting Legion.
Your doing an amazing work,keep it that way Mad:)
So you used our Inscription tips. Now everyone will jump on it hehe.
So what I heard is this is the best way and more garrison videos to come 😁. All kidding aside. Good video as always.
Lmao! Thanks as always for watching Lohkin =)
Aww shit! I didn't know you can specify which herb to grow.Thanks for the tips.
Yep very handy to have! Thanks for watching =)
I figured all these by myself before but it was still very nice to verify them. Keep up the great work man! Obtw scribes could also occasionaly gain a lot from darkmoon cards so i tend to try my luck at least 2 times a day and selling some of them for 600+ gold... Just my 2 coins ;)
And in my server omen cards go for 5 gold so i also try my luck twice each day so i basically alternate between different options
idk why but at first i hated your voice but now im slowly loving it xD
Thank you so much. Gives a new life to the Garrison. Rebuilding now and going for the lazy version :-)
Thanks bro ;D I've already been doing gold with the omens and pets, now bags and stones !
Good luck man! Thank you for watching.
It may cut into your time as well, but having a bunker you get the iron horde scraps, which can currently purchase cosmetic items, they can be sold for 11-24 gold each and are BoA.
Keep your blacksmith building up and have a follower in it. That allows you to keep your armour from being damaged while fighting all across the world. Yes, if you die it goes away, but for normal farming it helps keep the cost down.
Love the video. Just a note. If you do your mine and herb garden each day you get primal spirits you can use to make extra cloth at reduced mats.
Good tip! I also hear savage blood/felblight may be a good option too. Heavily server dependent I guess though.
Yes savage blood are because you can still trade them in for the purse. Thats 50 gold minimum. Haven't found any use for felblight yet. The upgrades don't seem to be selling on my server
I just did tailoring and enchanting for all my characters. Also made sure I recruited all my followers to have extreme scavenging. I also made sure that one of my alts had alchemy to transmute sorcerous air/water/fire to earth. My income comes from selling hexweave bags, Enchanting dust/Crystals and fur. My buildings are :inn,barracks,war mill,trading post,tailoring,enchanting,scavenging. I find this setup the best for time.
While I've been following this set up mostly, with the exception I'm running enchanting huts because I don't want to give up professions for inscription. But everything else I'm following.
Another option I'm toying with is removing the enchanting huts and putting in a bank for the increased amount of work orders. I believe that with a level 3 bank, you can max out work orders and only have to collect them once every 4 days, further decreasing how much time you spend in the garrison daily. Just as long as you log in and do your mission table, you can spend less than a minute in the garrison daily, except on that 4th day.
Thank you for the guide! Awesome Channel + honnest!
Still a good setup. I currently have 4 lvl 3 garrisons, so each one is slightly different, but they're still lucrative. Of course, the four toons have Tailoring/Enchanting, Herbalism/Alchemy, Blacksmithing/Mining, and my main, with two gathering professions (Mining/Skinning). Hexweave bags are going for around 2k on my server. The gambling cards are worthless.
Great guide as always. Thank you.
Thanks for watching Loken =)
Also there is an Abandoned Mining Pick treasure in Spires of Arak that allows you stack mining speed with the Garrison looted mining pick that you get from mining carts so you can speed through gathering in your LVL 3 Mines.
Thanks for the video, I've been super bummed about the nerfs for a while now. I had few characters with a full amount of follower armory pieces, they went from like 25g a stack to 1s or something like that, infuriated me that 500g was gone just like that. I still pop on my characters to see if there's any rare missions, some of those still give good AH rewards. The Gronn mount sells for like 500g, the oil sells for like 250g, and the ogre resources sells for like 200g as well. The big money item is the medallion that gives reputation, sells for around 6,000g.
Overall, waiting for Legion's official release, hopefully Demon Hunters and the Invasions keep me sated. Great videos MadSeason!
Through the whole course of WoD, doing garrison missions just about every day, I have never seen the Gronn mission.
Thanks for the video I really thought it was very informative!
your words are magic ! thanks
Nothing new, but good recap. You got a Sub!
I actually use the barn to farm my furs. I think it is much more effective than the trader, which is what I used to use. with the barn you can go out and farm beasts for about an hour and that 1 hour grind will give you about a weeks worth of work orders. over a weeks time you will probably spend about an hour in your trading post, or doing things to get resources for your trading post, and your trading post doesn't give you savage bloods. also, you don't get the perks of having a level 3 barn, like 110% movement speed or being able to perform actions while mounted. I feel like the barn is MUCH more effective.
in an hour you can farm 300+ wolf cages in a 5 man group. I am pretty sure you can't use them all in one week.
+Psi Storm im talking solo here buddy. i never said anything about grouping to speed things up. thanks for trying to correct me though.
Also still only 1000 garrision resources for rush order barn. You get much more fur and bonus savage bloods than buying trading post. And so easy to stock weeks of animals doing in groups as above commenter pointed out. I get so much fur that sell the rest.
hey,
you can also get 30 gold every day if you have engineering at 700 and the engineering booth. with your daily cd you will produce 20 gearspring parts and there are two items which cost exactly 20 gearspring parts, which is the megawatt filament and hemet's heartseeker. they both sell at a vendor for 30 gold.
I thought it's a nice add to your video :)
Hi I was wondering if this guide was still relevant in 7.2? Are there any updates to make more gold? Thanks, keep up the great work!!
Great vid! For myself I'm just using the Garrison as a one stop shop for an AH, Transmog, Bank and Gbank. It's very useful but doesn't make me any money! Will incorprorate some of this :D
Very well described way.. but do i need lvl 700 professions or is lvl 1 profession good for the start?
700 lvl
THANK YOU SO MUCH, i am not that good at making gold and this will help a TON!
Any time Martino. Good luck man!
I really liked it and subscribed. Peace.
this was a well made video.. thank you
So for the epic missions you need 3 675, 7 645 and 15 600 followers which means you have to have barracks?? Since the total is 25?
Thanks for the guide.
Just like you said, I think I'm going to abandon them still no matter how lucrative they may be. I followed your previous gold making guide for the garrison, and ive made a ton using it.
Thanks for the vids
Watching this.. i noticed how much fun i had doing garrioson for first time.. but it is not alt friendly
Do trader Yula and Elder Suirehide still show up? I've been trying to check every day, and haven't seen Surehide even once since the patch. I've been using the vendor that sells Sumptuous Fur for 20 resources because I'm starting to think Blizzard sent Elder Surehide to sleep with the fishes.
Thanks for the vid! What addons do you use if you don't mind sharing?
im just getting back into wow, is there a level requirement for garrison? i got the legion collectors edition, so i got a level 100 boost i can use, but i wanna use the garrison to recruit followers and make money while i level up my main and some new characters
Is it worth doing this if you are completing starting from a lvl 1 garrison 0 followers. Would take almost 6 months to get the followers correct and the gold investment as well. I have about 400k liquid gold but im curious if this is worthwhile to set up on multiple characters. Or if this is for someone who has already set something up and wants to change it for passive gold in legion. @MadSeasonShow
Loved the Garrison gold guide. The one part I really got attached to was the Tailoring Hexweave bag guide. I rushed home thinking I had a 700 tailoring on one of my toons. Sadly.....no. I have 700 in Inscription, Enchanting, Jewelcrafting, Engineering. On my main I have LW and skinning and will likely keep that heading into Legion. Also have BS and Mining on DK but will keep those as well.
So, my question is, Is it possible to drop one of those and level tailoring to 700 to take advantage of the bag making gold selling plan?? Or it really is not worth it? If you think it is worth it, which one of the 4 professions I have would you ditch in Legion based upon the information you have now?
Thanks again. Great guide as always.
Hey Jmac! At this point there really wouldnt be any reason to try and take advantage of the hexweave bag plan since DH are released tomorrow. In general though tailoring + the emporium will be pretty good in terms of gold making. I personally would get rid of JC since their daily quest got nerfed, but that's just me.
Also keep in mind that pretty much every profession will be lucrative during the first month or two of legion. I'd only build around this setup if you plan on keeping your character in the garrison. Hope this helps! Thanks for watching.
you aren't using the gorepetal gloves from nagrand to herb your garden, they speed up herbing so much it no longer feels like a pain to do it on every toon.
Great tip! Link for those curious: www.wowhead.com/item=116916/gorepetals-gentle-grasp&bonus=0
you are the real MVP!
Isn't it worth it for tailoring to craft one of each of the transmog set and then build on a bag stock? I usually sell the transmog about every week or two at 5k a piece.
are there 7 or 10 plots for your garrison? on one site, there are two different pages that say these things?
Yet another fine guide. Thanks! So how do you do your banking, warp to Stormshield?
Thanks for watching, Michael. I keep all of my banking with the guild bank. For this expansion I went ahead and made a dedicated bank to supply myself with all of this. If I ever run out of materials, I can quickly use that mobile banking perk and grab what I need. Pretty handy!
Thanks for the tip, can you do that if you are a member of a guild?
so much good info your on the money many thanks
Another amazing video. You do the math and everything. I gave you a subscribe and sending this to friends. Please do something like this for the class order halls once legion hits :)
Will do! I hear they have a lot of potential. Thank you for the kind words - they motivate me. Take care =)
No problem :) keep it up!
Can someone confirm if the Rapid Elixir still drops or if the Ring Missions (heilrooms) from the shipyard do exist ?
Great video, keep it up
Thanks Gustavo!
you can also make a small amount of money from the spare hord scraps buying the alliance shield for gold
Great tip. Thank you for sharing!
Lol glad you understood my late night gibberish
Nice advice.
Only criticism I'd have is that I don't think it's going to be worth transmuting elements into earth for a long time - the alchemy stone vendors for 20ish gold, which puts a bottom price on Alchemy Catalysts of 4g, not going to be worth spending those on the transmute for a long time.
Cool video Mad, you just earned a sub! Going to try this when i get off work today. I R super lazy
Thanks Bren, and good luck!
Thanks for the video, your guides have been very helpful on understanding garrisons and the changes that came with the pre patch. I'd like to hear your thoughts on how we can leverage demon hunters when they come out for this kind of gold making or if they wont be worth it
Thanks for watching Thraxis! Demon hunters are great for this since they start at level 100, so there's way less of a time investment since you get to skip all of that leveling. There's still a hefty gold investment with the buildings, profession leveling, and follwer leveling but like I mentioned in the video, if you stick with it in the long run it should pay off. Demon hunters are also great for "once per character" ways to make gold(a new series I'm working on). More stuff regarding that shortly =)
great videos, nice info.
There are two items in draenor that allow you to mine and herb faster, making both much more lucrative, when you have 11+ characters its intensely time consuming, shaving any seconds off is nice.
Firstly, thank you for all the hard work and time that you have invested in your video's. I watch all of your video's and you do some great stuff.
My questions are; do you do Tailoring on all of your characters?
Do you, or does any one else in chat know of a video guide that will help me level up my garrison followers and get them geared up? I feel like i am missing out on some good garrison loot.
And lastly, i was originally planning on going with Tailoring and Alchemy for all of my toons (minus a guy with mining and possibly a blacksmith as well) i feel like i would make some
Good gold just making hexweave bags all the time and doing transmute spec in alchemy and doing whatever transmute is selling for the most, every day. What do you think of that plan?
Thank you
Thanks for watching! I actually have blacksmithing on a couple of my characters, but that's only because they have unobtainable plans and I couldn't bring myself to drop it. Ideally though I would want all tailors. I'm not sure about video guides, but as for gearing up your followers quickly look for the "frozen arms of a hero" on the auction house. This increases both your follower's armor and weapon Ilevels by 50 which is really nice.
As for leveling them from 90-100, you may want to look into getting the harrison jones follower. He has a perk that allows you to powerlevel followers on the same mission as him. He can take a while to get though. Check out the comments on this link for more info: www.wowhead.com/follower=465/harrison-jones
I do also have a video for that but it's pretty old! And your plan sounds fine. Like I said what you saw in this video isn't the "be all end all" ultimate setup - it's just one that I like. I think your tailoring/alchemy/blacksmith plan will still make you some good gold once you have everything leveled up.
Hope this helps! Have a good one =)
+MadSeasonShow thanks very much for getting back to me so quickly and thank you for the link and the Harrison Jones tip. I just can't bring myself to completely ditch a very passive way of making gold with my garrisons. So looks like it's follower levelling time for me.
My main's garrison has the auction bot, and fully upgraded storage yard. I'll be keeping my garrison as my personal private city.
good video, lots of good info.
Oh btw is it worth crafting the soulbound WoD craftmaterials for equip? maybe people want the transmog in later expansions or sth
You mean the BOE stuff like armor and weapons? It's possible I guess. I'd think they would have most of their value now rather than later, but they may have that transmog value later on the road.
Hello, love your guides. Is this still accurate and up to date as of 7.3.2? I guess there's no reason to think it wouldn't be, but before i invest the time in getting this set up i want to make sure it's not a waste of time. Thanks
i can trap around 200 wolves in 1 hr, 1 cage gives about 100g each from 1 blood + 22 fur, thats 20.000g for 1 hr farming, which is more than ive seen from any gold farming guide.
i can only imagine that ill be able to farm more at lvl 110, maybe 300 pr hr with only spawnrates holding me back.
the barn rush order completes 5 cages, thats 500g for 1000 resources.
but yea i got 6 million gold now, so i cba doing this in legion.. not untill i run out of gold or anything better to do
Awesome! I still keep mine up and get plenty of passive gold.
Yep it's still pretty decent after post nerfs. Here's hoping the storm is over hah
i still keep up the level 3 building that gives you the free token for raiding, and the follower tokens, much much later on the tokens can be used for bonus loot (GOLD) while running at higher level with more people!
Now you just gotta wait till a little after legion and do the gold guide for the class halls :)
I heard they can be pretty good for gold making(although not as self sustainable as garrisons). I'll try to look into it!
quick question-the rough estimate for gold per day, was the per character ?
yes, per character being that they are character specific and not account. Regards :)
thanks for vid im gonna try some of yr styles
Great video, thank you. Could you do a Legion gold video for those with a lot of alts? So pretty much, a way we can make gold and not spend a lot of time on the alts. I have 64 100's at the moment and checking the gold missions in WoD took me 3 hours everyday alone.
I don't think anything will beat the old garrison missions, but I do have a couple things in mind that altoholics such as yourself may find useful. Also, I hear class halls will also be capable of making some gold. There might be a problem with order hall resources though - I hear it's not as self sustainable as the garrison.
Thanks man, would this change again once legion hits?
Hard to say - hopefully not. I think we've weathered the nerf storm but you can never be 100% sure. Regardless unless things are insanely drastic this will most likely be the last time I revisit this. Hopefully annotations will suffice if things do change =)
I have to agree - if you speed the video up to 1.25x it's pretty watchable :-)
is it worth it to level a follower to 100 and up his ilvl if he's gunna be sitting at a post with tailoring/herbalism?
no
How do you get a rush order every day? I see you incorporate it into your daily amount. I see rush orders rarely...
They don't show up daily, but usually in groups of 2-3 every couple days. On average it's around 6-8 a week so I just rounded it to 7 to make the math easier =)
What if I don't have tailoring or inscription?
Why didn't you mention the inscription daily follower craft? Is it not worth?
That got a really big nerf in 7.0 - the receipts only have a 10% value of what they used to have so personally it's not worth it for me.
Whats that addon that makes your bagbacks look like that?
Bagnon =)
a stack of 200 sorcerous earth cost around 1000g in my server.
Get an alchemist to convert other versions that are cheaper
Yeah i was gonna say if you are running alchemy you can just use a few of those catalysts to xmute from air or water to earth. If I recall correctly the recipe is on the daily trader visitor that pops up now and again.
All the elements are worth very little on mine :(
Nicely done. Voice could use a little less monotone
I have 4 main characters that I run garrisons with.. I set them up with tailoring alchemist and inscription several weeks ago and what I have done over that time I see that instead of cards with inscription I sell weapon crystals for about 3k gold.. they only cost 70 war paints 15 savage blood and 15 sorcerous water to make and I have 4 barns so it all comes from doing a little leg work.. with barns I never need to buy fur or savage blood infact I normally sell about 200 savage bloods a week from rushing barn orders..
Sounds like a solid setup! How hard is it to sell those crystals. Is it usually an easy sale?
I sell them within an hour of posting
I use to do cards, and someone asked me to make him a weapon crystal and gave me 4k for it is how I got the idea.. best day I had as far as making gold I made 60k in one day of making top tier upgrades a week ago... but I also buy and resell anything I can make a profit on by just playing the market
This is of course the Gold Value per Character right?
Ty for ur Videos btw!
Yep the only thing that's instant gold are the philosopher's stones. The bags and cards are usually pretty easy sales though as long as you're undercutting. Usually gold value can be a little iffy, especially with anything related to transmogs. But for the most part everything in this video should be a pretty quick sale. Just depends on your server's economy I guess.
Allright, Tank you!
For the Cards of Omen, im to lazy to sell them on the auction house, because they dont sell.
Maybe its because its a low population server. I just open them, still good profit.
Can you confirm that elixir of the rapid mind still drops?
Yep. It's in the video actually =) @ 9:25
Dumb question, cause I'm not currently playing. Can Demon Hunters get a Garrison?
Yep they sure can. Currently you're limited to 1 DH per realm though
At what level do you get a garrison? My highest character is 84.
You start the Draenor intro at 90, and usually you'll be 91 by the time you unlock the level 1 garrison. To level it to 3 you have to be 100 =)
MadSeasonShow
Thank you. 86 now.
+ExBruinsFan get that shit bro. draenor's questline is actually fun. its immersive, and the game does a good job at actually making you feel super important lmao. "Commander." ;)
I see new pixel art also thanks for new video
Yep it's awesome. A long time viewer made it for me recently. I love it!
Glad you have fans who are talented then . cool little piece of art .. ( I was not saying that you are not talented I don't even know you lol)
I appreciate the video but like yourself I'm looking forward to leaving WOD behind as well. Thank you for the video.
I disagree on how you handle inscription. I'm not sure spending your War Paints on the cards is such a good idea. 5 War Paints result in 10 Cards of Omen, which sell for about 10g each. So 5 Paints = 100g or 1 Paint = 20g.
Now if you look at the DMF trinkets that can be upgraded to stage 6/6 ilvl 715. Starting from the base ilvl 640 (which you can buy or make yourself, you need 45 Savage Bloods, 90 Felblights, 45 Sorcerous Water and 90 Sorcerous Fire, and 735 War Paints to upgrade it all the way to ilvl 715. On my server, these upgraded trinekts are still selling for 24k or more (at least for now, maybe demand for these can stop at any point now)
Now let's convert all these mats to raw gold value. Savage Bloods average 60g each, Felblights 15g, and the Sorcerous item 1g each. Total gold value of everything combined = 45x60 + 90x15 + 90x1 + 45x1 = 4185g. Subtracted from the total price of the trinket, this gives 24.000 - 4.185 = ~20k. So the value of 735 War Paints equals 20k, or about 30g per Paint. This value becomes slightly higher if you use your own mats, because let's be honest, apart from Savage Bloods, the other stuff is super easy to get with the doubled Felblights drop from Kazzak and Shipyard providing even more Sorcerous items.
Thoughts?
Also Alchemical Catalysts stack go for 1k or more on the AH sometimes. It's worth checking their price, either to sell stacks yourself if prices are high, or buy them to convert them to Philosopher Stones if they go for 600g or less at the time.
Definitely an option. For me though, the cards sort of follow the "lazy" approach that I have going on. Usually I have a harder time selling those trinkets, and I think they're something that may lower in price once everyone moves onto Legion content. This can put a fire under your butt to sell them ASAP and not to overstock to where you have too many that you can sell before the 30th. As long as those cards omens remain untouched, they should be relatively timeless. For now though it's a solid option for those willing to put more work in for more gold(depending on the server).
I was also wondering if they may also see an increase when demon hunters come out. There has to be some people out there who want to max out there character before Legion, even if it's only 3 weeks away.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Shadioow. More options are always good =)
What addons for follower missions?
That's "Master Plan". Here's a link: mods.curse.com/addons/wow/master-plan
MadSeasonShow thx!
hey mad I've been watching since you had 240ish followers and I feel like you're not feeling it anymore making wow videos. Do you think wow is dying? I'm getting my friends to try to play but I'm not sure it'll help my realm went to poo.:c
On the contrary. Right now I feel like I've hit my stride video wise and I'm as excited as ever for Legion! I have a ton of friends coming back and we're looking to get some PvP action in this xpac - it should be fun times. I think WoW will be fine. I have very high hopes for Legion. As long as they give it the support that it needs I think it'll be one of the better expansions.
No Enchanting?
Is this still worth it? looking for the best methods before legion
i already have 200k if that helps with anything
Nothing has been nerfed since this video was made so if that 1000g/day estimate is worth it I'd say go for it =)
when legion actually releases it probably wont work as well anymore. Demand will drop... So you need to decide if it's worth it for less than 2 weeks
R Eor okey, nah fuck that. You know any other good ways to make some g now ? i can farm if i have too, if its good enough. I
I really liked it.
Glad to hear it. Thanks for letting me know =)
Idk if i can go back to garrisons and wod, thats what made me quit last time
Thank you
Any time. Thanks for watching, Jonatas =)
Oh, that's what those constructs are for....lol never knew that
I appreciate you making this video/guide, but damn i dont want to ever go back to my garrison.
Understandable. I mentioned this in the video as well but I personally won't be farming them once Legion comes out. At least in the beginning anyways. If things ever stagnate like they did with Draenor I may come back to them out of boredom but at least for the beginning of the expansion I want to focus on Legion content. I don't think there's anything wrong with still wanting to farm garrisons though - it's still decently profitable and it doesn't take a whole lot of effort at all =)
WHAT ABOUT PRIMAL SPIRIT
How many DKs do you have!?!?
Too many. They're actually there for the shadowmourne questline. For this expansion I wanted to max out my garrison and I made death knights since they start at 55 and they're eligible for that quest. You can get some pretty expensive stuff from that =)
The Lord of the Bags
Oh yeah I'm ready haha
MadSeasonShow haha
*Cant do anything from this because only played WoD for a month before it got boring.*