My experience. 1. First and most importantly - there is a difference between buying a 2pc suit, and buying a jacket/pants individually, that have attachment zippers. Generally with 2pc suits, the jacket is cut short, and as such they AREN'T good for matching with jeans etc - you end up with an exposed midriff. 2. 2-pieces often don't have the same stretch materials / accordion panels etc around the back/crotch/hip area. And as such either the suit's cut is racy (and it's a pain to stand up in) or it's cut casual and it's a pain on a sportsbike (but fine if you're on a naked). 3. You're more likely to get pockets and such on a 2pc suit. Lots of 1pc suits have either no pockets or maybe 1 inner wallet pocket. This varies though, I have seen some 1pc suits with 3 inner pockets. 4. There is zero information out there about brand compatibility with 2pc suits. If you're trying to mix and match brands (heck, even different ages of gear in some brands....) it's likely the zips are incompatible. 5. I agree that putting on a 2PC is often as big a pain as a 1PC. In both cases, regardless of what liner the suit has, I recommend a set of lightweight merino longsleeve single/long johns. Merino wool you say? Won't I get hotter? Actually no, because they wick sweat away, they stop the suit sticking to you, and the other reason for going merino is that synthetics will stink to high heaven after a long day - merinos won't.
I think #2 is the real kicker that people overlook: if you're riding a naked, you're probably better off in a two piece. Also, as a non-Rossi human, I will never get any of the benefits of the aerodynamic back hump, so I would prefer not to have one because it causes problems for EMS if something catastrophic were to happen. Lots of two piece tops are made without the hump. I have never seen a mass market, non-custom tracksuit without the hump except for flat tracker suits.
Damn right about the underclothes. I got one of those sets that keep me a bit warmer in colder conditions and stay a bit cooler during warmer conditions. It makes such a difference with taking it off
I don't mind overlaping of the jacket. To me the biggest plus of 2-piece suits is ability to use a public toilets when nr.2 💩 is comming 😅 Try to do it in public covered with god only know what floor in 1-piece suit... 🤦🏻♂️
I would also call out two other considerations: (1) hot weather (Track and road); two piece is great to cool off. (2) going to the toilet - definitely the two piece wins. I use my two piece for road and one piece for the track; i bought my two piece first then upgraded to a high quality (expensive) one piece for track. Thanks for the review always good content (especially the garage stuff); ever thought about including some track riding tips?
I have a 2 piece Alpinestars suit. And another benefit of it is, then when you go for a ride and you stop to have a drink or whatever. You can simply remove the jacket. I would recomend a 1 piece suit for track riding tho. Like you said, it's a lot safer.
Did a track day at Sydney Motorsport Park when it was the hottest place on Earth (seriously!) and was grateful to be able to take the jacket on my 2 piece off in between sessions - if you have hot track days it is a nice option to have www.sbs.com.au/news/sydney-s-penrith-the-hottest-place-on-earth-amid-devastating-bushfires
Agree with the points! A one-piece is so much more comfortable! I have both but crashed hard in my one-piece last week (on the way to a trackday) when a car made a left turn just in front of me. Very happy to wear a solid leather one-piece suit and not any textile crap!
I had a 2 piece klim kit for about 5 years for commuting then recently got a missle v2 and gotta say its not that much harder worse to use day to day and man it is so much more comfy and confidence inspiring. I was worried my coworkers would make fun of me but nobody cares cuz you look just as goofy either way. when I suit up in the missle v2 almost every day and I love how safe it feels and it is so much more comfortable on the bike.
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your vast knowledge and expertise. Your videos play constantly in my work shop. I have taken a small hiatus from motorsports but when I'm ready to.come back I will be using your website exclusively for all my needs. Take care and I wish you and your son Max the very best ☺️
Nicely explained, I just got a Dainese Avro D-AIR and have to point out that the overlap is much smaller. It almost looks like a 1-piece. But the disadvantage is that the jacket is shorter and thus can't be worn on its own. Great content btw!!
More advantages for the two piece: better if you're stopped in hot weather, and you have pockets, pockets are freakin useful. I have the RST sabre airbag leather two piece, and some textiles. Covers everything and can do a few track days a year easy. Have said to myself if I start doing 6+ days a year then I'll get the RST airbag suit, but the sabre is good for now!
Excellent review!!!!!!! im going to do a few track days next year ... $499 is definitely in the budget. I'll be a 1st timer at the track... thanks for this
The upside of that is you will have better protection than just an insert in a jacket. You will also be able to use this for years to come and can take it with you if you end up replacing a suit. - Van
The "2 piece suit" used for demonstration purposes isn't actually that at all; it's separate jacket and pants that zip together. An actual 2 piece suit is functionally identical to a 1 piece suit, next to no overlap, fits the same, offers the same protection. Still a very informative video, just seems like a few terms were mixed up
If you know more about suits feel free to post your own video. Purpose built 2 piece suits and jacket/pant combos are almost identical for most brands. Also important to note that purpose built 2 piece suits do not sell at the same rate as jacket/pant combos do. If you are wondering how I know this that would be because my shop has sold more suits since 2006 than most any other shop out there. - Van
Correction Heroic ...big guy... leathers have 2 zippers that start atneck go to your left /right pectorials and go down the sides of your torso...it splits the torso vertically front and back so suit just slides/zips right up . No fighting suit at all ....Amazing difference...amazing fit also
Dainese used to offer suits with a main zip using this style. You do not see the double zip style used in many suits at this point as it was never very popular. - Van
Agreed on this, if you prioritize safety- 1 pc suit is the way. however if you prioritize comfort and ease of removing them 2pcs is good for you. Also, most 1-piece doesn't have the option to add back protector (pocket) unlike 2 piece suit. So if youre going for 1 piece you'll have to buy the strap-on back protectors.
I don’t think 1 piece suits are inherently safer unless it’s track specific, what they’re made fire . I’ve owned multiple jackets that all have pockets for a back protector built in .
Both should offer the same amount of safety, but the 1 piece has much more comfort while riding the bike. The 2 piece offers convenience for when you’re not on the bike. A separate full length back protector will offer the most protection as compared to just an insert anyways, and can be worn at any time.
Just stumbled upon the channel. Watched a few vids. Apart from being informative, I got to appreciate your sense of humor (tight shirt vids), and to reply to viewers questions to the best of your ability - true gentleman. Curious to know if you have or can make a vid on puig z vs r windscreens or just a comparison on the top 2 or 3 aftermarket ones. Happy holidays.
the amount of times I am at a track day watching 1 piece riders walk around holding their upper suit awkwardly while i am free from waist up is hilarious. for the maybe 1% better performance on the track ( get better trained) vs comfort and practicality off is a no brainer for anyone other than paid professionals.
Having done this for a few decades now (and having owned a couple of two piece suits) I can say with confidence the 1 piece suit is the best option for almost everyone on the track. - Van
At 35 years old now I am way to comfortable to wear a one piece suit. Alpinestars Missile V2 2 PCS covers everything I need. I even use it on the track where I can remove the jacket between the sessions and when I'm going to the bathroom everybody else is jealous of me. People are always telling me the one piece i a lot safer, but when asking for statistics and empirical data of this it always gets very quiet. A zipped together Missile V2 2 PCS with the Tech Air 5 is everything I ever need.
Great video, very useful, but I feel like you forgot one big point between the two, and that is going to the bathroom, especially a #2 with a 1 piece LOL. You're either holding half your suit between your legs while on the can, or you're going to have to risk taking off your boots and the entire suit in a public bathroom. Neither is appealing or very fun. BTW, I've long ditched a 2 piece for a 1 piece for any spirited riding/track days and a jacket/jeans for casual stuff.
@@sportbiketrackgear don't forget us women that might just have to go pee lol! I do a couple novice track days a year, and I stick with the two piece. Easier to go the bathroom, and more comfy to take the jacket off in between sessions on a hot day. I don't even notice the extra leather overlapping when I'm on the bike, too many other things I'm paying attention to.
I've just realised i have to adopt a particularly wide stance when going for a leak in my 1 piece. I need to have the arms off to be able to do the deed but then it wants to fall down to my knees. Yes its comfy but this drama is one of the reasons I'm now looking at a 2 piece
Hello sir, thanks for all the hard work you put into these videos! I’ve been debating picking up the Dainese Assen 2 Perf 1 Piece suit but didn’t stumble across any vids on it. Just wondering if you had any thoughts on it or if you’d recommend a different suit. (Possibly the Icon Hypersport, Alpinestars Motegi V2, Dainese Laguna Seca 4, etc) Aside, my measurements are 5’10”, 175-180lbs, and a 33-34 inch waist. Thanks!
Best value is the RST TracTech Evo 4 One Piece Leather Race Suit (54 Euro) www.sportbiketrackgear.com/rst-tractech-evo-4-one-piece-leather-race-suit/ Alpinestars Missile Leather Race Suit Tech-Air Race Compatible (56 Euro) www.sportbiketrackgear.com/alpinestars-missile-leather-race-suit-tech-air-race-compatible/ The RST suit is very close to this and better than the Icon suit you mentioned. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Thanks for the reply. Do you know if you will get any more of the white RST Tractech Evo 4’s in stock? I’d buy immediately. Cheers!
Thanks for all the reviews, it's very helpful. I'm wondering if it's possible to review a one piece for a female since I assume bathroom use would be more difficult? Lol
One thing I think you didn't add in, if you really want the safest suit (so probably one piece) you are probably also looking at an airbag vest too which also really raises the price, not that 2piece guys don't get them. I don't have a 1piece but have been looking at them for the last few months.
@@sportbiketrackgear can I ask you guys about a suit company. On instagram I have this company "balmy_co" they make tailored suits for $500 or so im almost tempted to buy one. I know like one x USA is good but I'd like to see you guys compare this
@@sportbiketrackgear Hello Van, When I look at 0:18 in the video you do appear to be comfortable. But off the bike while making the video you look uncomfortable. I'm just making an observation not a criticism. I use a 1-pc leather suit when riding my motorcycles. Great video overall. Very helpful.
@@sportbiketrackgear I found your older video that goes into detail on fitting: ua-cam.com/video/K2AcTUptNVg/v-deo.html Thanks again for taking the time to explain things. Very Helpful!
Late comment, but I don't see why a company couldn't make a two piece suit like how freediving wetsuits are made. The wetsuits have a stretchy piece of fabric that hangs off the back of the shirt that goes between your legs and clips near your belt-line on the front. It would keep the shirt from riding up in a crash and would be easy to take off if you get hot. Only problem I could see is if you got into a slide feet first, you might get some "discomfort" down there, lol.
Best of both worlds is Heroic ...Big guy ...1 piece suit which has 2 vertical zippers on the torso about 1 foot apart. Getting suit on/off is a breeze . FYi heroic uses Kangaroo leather , stingray leather at abrasion points and cost same as alpinestars ect. Heroic best on market
my biggest issue is the size limitations. I'm 6' tall and 280, "working on that part." But i struggle to find gear as a whole that fits my frame. a 4x alpine stars jacket that i daily ride is still snug across the shoulder, with dianese i wear a size 64 for the same reason. with pant size im again an oddball, wearing a 38/30. trying to find gear, let alone track/spiirited riding gear is a nighmare for me. so if you can recomend something that jsut might work, im all ears.
Van IMHO the best suit on the market is the one that is easiest to get into so they will wear it instead of leaving hung up in the closet.Heroic uses the best materials (all kangeroo and 1/2 kangroo/top grade cow) and STINGRAY LEATHER which is increadible ..seen a guy slide 75ft on stingray leather and it did not wear through . Point is the double zipper system in 1 piece leathers makes it SO much easier to get on off i cant see why ALL suits are not 2 zipper systems . The Alpine suit with 2 zipper ...w frame .. system wasnt popular because of the PRICE. 2700-3000$ even back almost a decade ago. FYI...I get no money products ect from Heroic ...I like you, just like helping fellow motorcyclists . I am old, skills shot lol.Have a superbike collection of all curreent japanese and euro superbikes . Want to see people use leathers, boots gloves .NOT just wear a helmet and think they are covered safety wise . Which is wat most people think , unfortunately . VAn try a Heroic 2 zipper system suit i think you will be pleasantly surprised YOU GUYS ARE GREAT...KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
The biggest issue is they only make these for 10% OF THE POPULATION. 5' 6' and a 120# or LESS. At 5'10" and 240lbs there is nothing that will fit me unless I go with custom tailored stuff. Oh I forgot, only stick figured people ride sport bikes. Dumb me.
We get people your size into off the rack suits all the time. If you need help finding one that fits reach out to the team on orders@sportbiketrackgear.com and they will get you sorted out. - Van
I was just deciding if buying a 1 or 2 pieces leather suit, and this video pops up just at the right time! I was looking at the Alpinestars missile 2 pieces, do you recommend it? I would use it in summer (I'm in north Italy) with the Alpinestars tech air 5 Thanks for the video!👍
We do not have any suits that come in short versions. That said there are some that are a little shorter in the legs and arms. Please shoot the team an email on orders@sportbiketrackgear.com and they can help you sort this out. - Van
A 2 piece offers the ability to take off the jacket when you reach a destination which can be pretty convenient for street rides and appeals to some riders. If you plan to street ride in the suit and want to be able to take the jacket off 2 piece is the way to go. If you can live with just taking off the top half of a one piece when you reach the destination a 1 piece offers more comfort considering you do not have the overlapping material at the waist. - Van
@@njmenaceify i mean as long as you aint a girl it don't mather. only diffarance betwen one piece and 2 piece is the lenght of the ziper you have to unzip
Im looking to get a motorcycle to commute to work. I work inside so I typically prefer to wear shorts and a tshirt while working. I definitely don’t want to ride in shorts and a tshirt. So my question is, what would you recommend for someone who wants full coverage but also wants to be able to change into normal clothes easily. Is there something that goes over light clothing easily?
You could get some riding jeans and a jacket. Just change into the shorts when you get to work. If you want more protection then you could look at a leather two piece suit. - Van
Consider a textile one piece oversuit. Takes care of the jacket and pants in one go and they're easy to put on and take off. A somewhat decent one will have the armor built in and keeps you warm and dry. You'll look like the ultimate dad biker wearing one but who cares.
I ride a mt10. I already have a rev’it textile jacket. Before that I had a Missile 2 piece suit, which became too small. Should I go for another 2 piece or a one piece. I ride very hard, pegs scrapping on each spirited rides. Few track days (1-2/summer). What should I go with? Thanks!
I currently own one of each. one piece & two piece. As I considering doing some long distance touring soon, I assume a two piece would be my best option. (don't know anyone who's toured in a one piece?
Hey mate , great reviews hey just a question ?? Iam the exact same size and height as you and a friend of mine just sold me a very cheap deal on a 2 piece alpinestars leather suit and the pants fit perfect and the jacket is a fraction big at size EUR 60 do you recon that is to big for someone our size , I heard you mention in one of your reviews that you was a size EUR 56 in the alpinestar jacket any help or advice would be much appreciated
Here is a link to the 2 piece suits on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/riding-gear/motorcycle-race-suits/?search_query=&page=1&limit=48&sort=featured&Product=Race%20Suit%20(2%20Piece)&category=59004&is_category_page=1 - Van
Hey Brian, I'm a new rider and want to do some track days next riding season. My concern is that I'm 5'4" and don't think I can find a suit that will fit me. I doubt I could afford a custom suit. Is it possible to have a suit altered or what do you recommend I do?
not Brian, but a fellow shorty. Finding the right length in off the rack leathers is next to impossible for shorties. The advice I was given that I found to work is to pull up the leather a little from just under the knee (then zip up boots so it's held that way) and once you are on the bike the armor is usually in the right spot. If not, it's most likely adjustable up or down on the inside. For sleeve length, a good tailor that knows leather can fix that easy peasy.
@@jessicabaker4763 ok, thanks for the advice. I've never actually put one on so I can't quite picture what you are talking about but when I get one I can figure it out.
@@dmcontino sorry, was trying to figure out how to describe it. pulling up the leathers so the bottom of the legs isn't all bunched up, and they are more where they should be. is that a little better description?
At 5' 4" it can be a bit of a challenge to find the right fit in a race suit. That said there are options that may work off the rack. Please shoot us an email to orders@sportbiketrackgear.com and work with the staff so they can help you find some available options. This is more than I can do over UA-cam comments making email or a phone call a better option. - Van
We have a ton of inventory here and more on the way. The volumes we are seeing are unprecedented and we are starting to see some inventory shortages due the the disaster it is to import goods at this time. Not sure what the motivation is for your comment. - Van
No the zippers will be different. That said the jackets and the pants will both come with the other half of the zipper so you can take this to a tailor and have the other half attached so you can zip them together. - Van
Well mr. Van Dam, I have both and two stand alone leather and textile jackets. My one piece fits like yours if you’re honest. It’s tight in the crotch and baggy ass in the back, looks like something is wrong. The positive is ahh, umm, not sure. Now the two piece( both heavy duty from the same manufacture), the pants fit amazing, and the jacket also. It’s so much more comfortable to ride in, not even close. Pros/ fit looks and feels better, usually cheaper, removeable jacket for extended stops or breaks in between sessions. As far as getting it on an off it’s easier than the one piece. But let’s be honest, both are easy with the right undergarment. I have a bulge on the one piece in the front that is nonexistent with the two piece. I do enjoy switching out occasionally, however, the two piece is the way to go. Also one other side note, they won’t admit it but riders look at like you are a rookie or can’t afford a one piece, not all but some. Certainly for most, one will feel better than the other, but when it comes to my two suits both will afford me the same protection. Both are 1.3-1.4 genuine leather. Also my two piece are directly made for each other, no mix and matching, huge difference. The deals are ou there, I bought two premium suits for a combined price of 775$
Most of the race suit will have one interior pocket for the one piece suits while two piece suits have 2 or more inside with the 2 exterior pockets in the jacket. - Van
My experience.
1. First and most importantly - there is a difference between buying a 2pc suit, and buying a jacket/pants individually, that have attachment zippers. Generally with 2pc suits, the jacket is cut short, and as such they AREN'T good for matching with jeans etc - you end up with an exposed midriff.
2. 2-pieces often don't have the same stretch materials / accordion panels etc around the back/crotch/hip area. And as such either the suit's cut is racy (and it's a pain to stand up in) or it's cut casual and it's a pain on a sportsbike (but fine if you're on a naked).
3. You're more likely to get pockets and such on a 2pc suit. Lots of 1pc suits have either no pockets or maybe 1 inner wallet pocket. This varies though, I have seen some 1pc suits with 3 inner pockets.
4. There is zero information out there about brand compatibility with 2pc suits. If you're trying to mix and match brands (heck, even different ages of gear in some brands....) it's likely the zips are incompatible.
5. I agree that putting on a 2PC is often as big a pain as a 1PC. In both cases, regardless of what liner the suit has, I recommend a set of lightweight merino longsleeve single/long johns. Merino wool you say? Won't I get hotter? Actually no, because they wick sweat away, they stop the suit sticking to you, and the other reason for going merino is that synthetics will stink to high heaven after a long day - merinos won't.
All good information, thanks for sharing. - Van
I think #2 is the real kicker that people overlook: if you're riding a naked, you're probably better off in a two piece. Also, as a non-Rossi human, I will never get any of the benefits of the aerodynamic back hump, so I would prefer not to have one because it causes problems for EMS if something catastrophic were to happen. Lots of two piece tops are made without the hump. I have never seen a mass market, non-custom tracksuit without the hump except for flat tracker suits.
Damn right about the underclothes. I got one of those sets that keep me a bit warmer in colder conditions and stay a bit cooler during warmer conditions. It makes such a difference with taking it off
@@patrickspapens5497 taking 1 piece suit is a pain... unless your partner is helping 😅👍🏻
I don't mind overlaping of the jacket. To me the biggest plus of 2-piece suits is ability to use a public toilets when nr.2 💩 is comming 😅
Try to do it in public covered with god only know what floor in 1-piece suit... 🤦🏻♂️
I don't see any mention of the biggest advantage of having a two piece. Ease of going to the John 🤣
LOL if you need to drop a deuce in either one it is not an amazing experience. - Van
Droppin the ole stink pickle!
@@cfltitan THE STINK PICKLE 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣ffs I’ve never heard that one ! 🤣
@@sportbiketrackgear 😂🤣😂🤣 so true
Main reason I want a 2 piece
I would also call out two other considerations: (1) hot weather (Track and road); two piece is great to cool off. (2) going to the toilet - definitely the two piece wins. I use my two piece for road and one piece for the track; i bought my two piece first then upgraded to a high quality (expensive) one piece for track. Thanks for the review always good content (especially the garage stuff); ever thought about including some track riding tips?
Thanks for watching and for sharing your experience. We do plan to add some more track content this season for sure. - Van
I have a 2 piece Alpinestars suit. And another benefit of it is, then when you go for a ride and you stop to have a drink or whatever.
You can simply remove the jacket.
I would recomend a 1 piece suit for track riding tho. Like you said, it's a lot safer.
Good call on removing the jacket when you stop. - Van
Did a track day at Sydney Motorsport Park when it was the hottest place on Earth (seriously!) and was grateful to be able to take the jacket on my 2 piece off in between sessions - if you have hot track days it is a nice option to have www.sbs.com.au/news/sydney-s-penrith-the-hottest-place-on-earth-amid-devastating-bushfires
Agree with the points! A one-piece is so much more comfortable! I have both but crashed hard in my one-piece last week (on the way to a trackday) when a car made a left turn just in front of me. Very happy to wear a solid leather one-piece suit and not any textile crap!
Happy to hear you were ok! - Van
I had a 2 piece klim kit for about 5 years for commuting then recently got a missle v2 and gotta say its not that much harder worse to use day to day and man it is so much more comfy and confidence inspiring. I was worried my coworkers would make fun of me but nobody cares cuz you look just as goofy either way. when I suit up in the missle v2 almost every day and I love how safe it feels and it is so much more comfortable on the bike.
If protection is your priority leather is the way to go for sure. - Van
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your vast knowledge and expertise. Your videos play constantly in my work shop. I have taken a small hiatus from motorsports but when I'm ready to.come back I will be using your website exclusively for all my needs. Take care and I wish you and your son Max the very best ☺️
Appreciate you watching and the kind words. - Van
Nicely explained, I just got a Dainese Avro D-AIR and have to point out that the overlap is much smaller. It almost looks like a 1-piece. But the disadvantage is that the jacket is shorter and thus can't be worn on its own. Great content btw!!
As I remember it (we no longer offer Dainese) the jacket on that suit was shorter. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear What caused you to stop carrying Dianese?
More advantages for the two piece: better if you're stopped in hot weather, and you have pockets, pockets are freakin useful. I have the RST sabre airbag leather two piece, and some textiles. Covers everything and can do a few track days a year easy. Have said to myself if I start doing 6+ days a year then I'll get the RST airbag suit, but the sabre is good for now!
For sure there are pros and cons to either one. If you are riding on the track with any frequency the one piece is the way to go IMO. - Van
Excellent review!!!!!!! im going to do a few track days next year ... $499 is definitely in the budget. I'll be a 1st timer at the track... thanks for this
Thanks for watching. For sure take a look at the RST TracTech Evo 4 Race Suit. Hard to beat at $499. - Van
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience! Nice video!
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
Thanks brother I feel like I'm starting to have waiste problems now that you mentioned it I just grabbed a 1 piece can't wait to break it in
IMO 1 piece is the way to go. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear just bought your last 1 alpinestars size 58 🥲
Good content and much needed
Thank you for watching! - Van
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This video has me thinking about a one piece however dropping 100 to 150 for another back protector should be noted which adds to the cost.
The upside of that is you will have better protection than just an insert in a jacket. You will also be able to use this for years to come and can take it with you if you end up replacing a suit. - Van
The "2 piece suit" used for demonstration purposes isn't actually that at all; it's separate jacket and pants that zip together. An actual 2 piece suit is functionally identical to a 1 piece suit, next to no overlap, fits the same, offers the same protection.
Still a very informative video, just seems like a few terms were mixed up
If you know more about suits feel free to post your own video. Purpose built 2 piece suits and jacket/pant combos are almost identical for most brands. Also important to note that purpose built 2 piece suits do not sell at the same rate as jacket/pant combos do. If you are wondering how I know this that would be because my shop has sold more suits since 2006 than most any other shop out there. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear this response gave me second hand embarrassment for the other guy 😭
Great video 👍
great video! I was leaning to the 2 piece now I'm definitely getting the 2 piece
Happy to hear it was helpful and thank you for watching! - Van
Correction Heroic ...big guy... leathers have 2 zippers that start atneck go to your left /right pectorials and go down the sides of your torso...it splits the torso vertically front and back so suit just slides/zips right up . No fighting suit at all ....Amazing difference...amazing fit also
Dainese used to offer suits with a main zip using this style. You do not see the double zip style used in many suits at this point as it was never very popular. - Van
Did you have the Vanson sports rider seperates, with the three zippers, or was it the made to order full circumference zippered suit?
Another (big) advantage of a 2 piece suit: more pockets (generally)
I would agree with this. Typically a one piece will only have one internal pocket. - Van
Agreed on this, if you prioritize safety- 1 pc suit is the way. however if you prioritize comfort and ease of removing them 2pcs is good for you.
Also, most 1-piece doesn't have the option to add back protector (pocket) unlike 2 piece suit. So if youre going for 1 piece you'll have to buy the strap-on back protectors.
Personally I prefer the full protector with the straps when it comes to protection. An insert is more comfortable. - Van
Some suits, like Alpinestars have a snap system that you can attach a protector that doesn't need the shoulder straps, just the waist straps.
I don’t think 1 piece suits are inherently safer unless it’s track specific, what they’re made fire . I’ve owned multiple jackets that all have pockets for a back protector built in .
Both should offer the same amount of safety, but the 1 piece has much more comfort while riding the bike. The 2 piece offers convenience for when you’re not on the bike. A separate full length back protector will offer the most protection as compared to just an insert anyways, and can be worn at any time.
Just stumbled upon the channel. Watched a few vids. Apart from being informative, I got to appreciate your sense of humor (tight shirt vids), and to reply to viewers questions to the best of your ability - true gentleman. Curious to know if you have or can make a vid on puig z vs r windscreens or just a comparison on the top 2 or 3 aftermarket ones. Happy holidays.
Thanks for the kind words and for watching. I like your idea and we will look into getting this done over the coming months. - Van
If I order a one piece suit from STG, do I get a medium athletic build in the box?
Yes when you put the suit on it will magically transform you. Do not spend anytime working out, the suit will handle everything. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear LMAO
If you don't, make sure you return it in the worst conditions possible ;)
the amount of times I am at a track day watching 1 piece riders walk around holding their upper suit awkwardly while i am free from waist up is hilarious. for the maybe 1% better performance on the track ( get better trained) vs comfort and practicality off is a no brainer for anyone other than paid professionals.
Having done this for a few decades now (and having owned a couple of two piece suits) I can say with confidence the 1 piece suit is the best option for almost everyone on the track. - Van
At 35 years old now I am way to comfortable to wear a one piece suit. Alpinestars Missile V2 2 PCS covers everything I need. I even use it on the track where I can remove the jacket between the sessions and when I'm going to the bathroom everybody else is jealous of me. People are always telling me the one piece i a lot safer, but when asking for statistics and empirical data of this it always gets very quiet. A zipped together Missile V2 2 PCS with the Tech Air 5 is everything I ever need.
We are all different and it is good to have options. - Van
Must try on first alpinestars made in Vietnam sizes are small but great quality
We sell a metric ton of leather suits and are able to get most riders into the right size over the phone or via email. - Van
Great video, very useful, but I feel like you forgot one big point between the two, and that is going to the bathroom, especially a #2 with a 1 piece LOL. You're either holding half your suit between your legs while on the can, or you're going to have to risk taking off your boots and the entire suit in a public bathroom. Neither is appealing or very fun.
BTW, I've long ditched a 2 piece for a 1 piece for any spirited riding/track days and a jacket/jeans for casual stuff.
If you have to drop a deuce in a 1 piece that is a challenge for sure! - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear don't forget us women that might just have to go pee lol! I do a couple novice track days a year, and I stick with the two piece. Easier to go the bathroom, and more comfy to take the jacket off in between sessions on a hot day. I don't even notice the extra leather overlapping when I'm on the bike, too many other things I'm paying attention to.
I've just realised i have to adopt a particularly wide stance when going for a leak in my 1 piece. I need to have the arms off to be able to do the deed but then it wants to fall down to my knees. Yes its comfy but this drama is one of the reasons I'm now looking at a 2 piece
Hello sir, thanks for all the hard work you put into these videos! I’ve been debating picking up the Dainese Assen 2 Perf 1 Piece suit but didn’t stumble across any vids on it. Just wondering if you had any thoughts on it or if you’d recommend a different suit. (Possibly the Icon Hypersport, Alpinestars Motegi V2, Dainese Laguna Seca 4, etc)
Aside, my measurements are 5’10”, 175-180lbs, and a 33-34 inch waist. Thanks!
Best value is the RST TracTech Evo 4 One Piece Leather Race Suit (54 Euro)
www.sportbiketrackgear.com/rst-tractech-evo-4-one-piece-leather-race-suit/
Alpinestars Missile Leather Race Suit Tech-Air Race Compatible (56 Euro)
www.sportbiketrackgear.com/alpinestars-missile-leather-race-suit-tech-air-race-compatible/
The RST suit is very close to this and better than the Icon suit you mentioned. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Thanks for the reply. Do you know if you will get any more of the white RST Tractech Evo 4’s in stock? I’d buy immediately. Cheers!
Thank you for another, very informative video. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Too bad I already have both or I would be calling.
You are welcome for the video. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well. - Van
Outstanding video man! Just what i need it to finally decide for the missile 1 p! Thanks 💪🏻
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
Great channel, deserves a sub! 👍
Grtz from Belgium! 🇧🇪
Appreciate you! - Van
Really good information, mate thanks for putting that together 👍👍👍
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
This is going to sound dumb, but does the rst one piece have inside pockets? I envision not, for track purposes.
Yes there is one pocket inside of the suit that is big enough to hold a wallet etc. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear sold!!! I love the value of that suit
Not a lot of options for women for cheaper suits :( everything is close to $1,000 for what I see for alpinestars
There are not a ton of women's race suits being produced due to the low volume. - Van
Thanks for all the reviews, it's very helpful. I'm wondering if it's possible to review a one piece for a female since I assume bathroom use would be more difficult? Lol
For sure the bathroom deal requires a lot more effort! - Van
One thing I think you didn't add in, if you really want the safest suit (so probably one piece) you are probably also looking at an airbag vest too which also really raises the price, not that 2piece guys don't get them. I don't have a 1piece but have been looking at them for the last few months.
I prefer the one piece across the board. If you can afford to add the airbag that is money well spent IMO. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear can I ask you guys about a suit company. On instagram I have this company "balmy_co" they make tailored suits for $500 or so im almost tempted to buy one. I know like one x USA is good but I'd like to see you guys compare this
Not to knock your product (because the suits are excellent quality), I don't think your too comfortable in either suit. But looks can be deceiving...
I have been doing this a long time now and can assure you the fit is correct. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Hello Van, When I look at 0:18 in the video you do appear to be comfortable. But off the bike while making the video you look uncomfortable. I'm just making an observation not a criticism. I use a 1-pc leather suit when riding my motorcycles. Great video overall. Very helpful.
@@sportbiketrackgear I found your older video that goes into detail on fitting: ua-cam.com/video/K2AcTUptNVg/v-deo.html Thanks again for taking the time to explain things. Very Helpful!
Late comment, but I don't see why a company couldn't make a two piece suit like how freediving wetsuits are made. The wetsuits have a stretchy piece of fabric that hangs off the back of the shirt that goes between your legs and clips near your belt-line on the front. It would keep the shirt from riding up in a crash and would be easy to take off if you get hot. Only problem I could see is if you got into a slide feet first, you might get some "discomfort" down there, lol.
If it is going to be a two piece suit the pants and the jacket have to be joined together in a way it is very difficult for them to separate. - Van
Best of both worlds is Heroic ...Big guy ...1 piece suit which has 2 vertical zippers on the torso about 1 foot apart. Getting suit on/off is a breeze . FYi heroic uses Kangaroo leather , stingray leather at abrasion points and cost same as alpinestars ect. Heroic best on market
Heroic makes a nice suit but I would no label them the best on the market. - Van
Very informative. Really helps. Thank you
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
What a fantastic video, thanks a million
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
my biggest issue is the size limitations. I'm 6' tall and 280, "working on that part." But i struggle to find gear as a whole that fits my frame. a 4x alpine stars jacket that i daily ride is still snug across the shoulder, with dianese i wear a size 64 for the same reason. with pant size im again an oddball, wearing a 38/30. trying to find gear, let alone track/spiirited riding gear is a nighmare for me.
so if you can recomend something that jsut might work, im all ears.
Hard to really do this via UA-cam comments. Please shoot the team an email to orders@sportbiketrakgear.com and they will sort this out for you. - Van
Van IMHO the best suit on the market is the one that is easiest to get into so they will wear it instead of leaving hung up in the closet.Heroic uses the best materials (all kangeroo and 1/2 kangroo/top grade cow) and STINGRAY LEATHER which is increadible ..seen a guy slide 75ft on stingray leather and it did not wear through .
Point is the double zipper system in 1 piece leathers makes it SO much easier to get on off i cant see why ALL suits are not 2 zipper systems .
The Alpine suit with 2 zipper ...w frame .. system wasnt popular because of the PRICE. 2700-3000$ even back almost a decade ago.
FYI...I get no money products ect from Heroic ...I like you, just like helping fellow motorcyclists . I am old, skills shot lol.Have a superbike collection of all curreent japanese and euro superbikes . Want to see people use leathers, boots gloves .NOT just wear a helmet and think they are covered safety wise . Which is wat most people think , unfortunately .
VAn try a Heroic 2 zipper system suit i think you will be pleasantly surprised
YOU GUYS ARE GREAT...KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
Thanks for watching and for taking the time to share your feedback. - Van
Deal breaker for me, 2 piece is easier to take a quick piss. That’s my level
And we all have our level. - Van
The biggest issue is they only make these for 10% OF THE POPULATION. 5' 6' and a 120# or LESS.
At 5'10" and 240lbs there is nothing that will fit me unless I go with custom tailored stuff.
Oh I forgot, only stick figured people ride sport bikes. Dumb me.
We get people your size into off the rack suits all the time. If you need help finding one that fits reach out to the team on orders@sportbiketrackgear.com and they will get you sorted out. - Van
I was just deciding if buying a 1 or 2 pieces leather suit, and this video pops up just at the right time!
I was looking at the Alpinestars missile 2 pieces, do you recommend it? I would use it in summer (I'm in north Italy) with the Alpinestars tech air 5
Thanks for the video!👍
You are welcome. Yes the Missile is a solid suit and the Tech Air 5 really takes the protection to the next level. - Van
Hey I bought a Missile V2 Leather Short Pants from you guys and it fits great! Do any of your full track suits come in a short?
We do not have any suits that come in short versions. That said there are some that are a little shorter in the legs and arms. Please shoot the team an email on orders@sportbiketrackgear.com and they can help you sort this out. - Van
Wierd question but what do you do in the case that you have to relieve yourself in a one-piece?
You zip it down and pull your junk out to take a squirt. If you have to drop a deuce the suit will need to come off. - Van
i'd use a 1 piece motorcycle suit for a batman costume.
Happy Halloween - Van
Do you think i can cut into my full peice suit and make it two peice? Without affecting the safety of it too much?
This would be far more trouble than it would be worth. More likely you ruin the suit than turn it into a two piece. - Van
Have you got any informational videos like this on intercoms and headsets
We do not really focus on them very much so we do not. - Van
is 2pc basically a street use while 1pc is like a long rides type?
A 2 piece offers the ability to take off the jacket when you reach a destination which can be pretty convenient for street rides and appeals to some riders. If you plan to street ride in the suit and want to be able to take the jacket off 2 piece is the way to go. If you can live with just taking off the top half of a one piece when you reach the destination a 1 piece offers more comfort considering you do not have the overlapping material at the waist. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear okie
I’m going to be getting a 125cc for the road, do you think pants would be necessary or would jacket be enough?
That really depends on how comfortable you are with the risk. At a minimum you need to wear a pair of solid denim pants. - Van
Hello, what about if u go a-lot to the toilet what do u recommend? 1 pcs will be a headache?
Taking a squirt in a 1 piece is not a problem. Dropping a deuce is another story... - Van
Easier to pee in 2 piece
LOL. To be fair the effort required to take a squirt is pretty even. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Van squirts
what so hard about peeing inside the one piece?
@@njmenaceify i mean as long as you aint a girl it don't mather. only diffarance betwen one piece and 2 piece is the lenght of the ziper you have to unzip
Im looking to get a motorcycle to commute to work. I work inside so I typically prefer to wear shorts and a tshirt while working. I definitely don’t want to ride in shorts and a tshirt. So my question is, what would you recommend for someone who wants full coverage but also wants to be able to change into normal clothes easily. Is there something that goes over light clothing easily?
You could get some riding jeans and a jacket. Just change into the shorts when you get to work. If you want more protection then you could look at a leather two piece suit. - Van
Consider a textile one piece oversuit.
Takes care of the jacket and pants in one go and they're easy to put on and take off.
A somewhat decent one will have the armor built in and keeps you warm and dry. You'll look like the ultimate dad biker wearing one but who cares.
I ride a mt10. I already have a rev’it textile jacket. Before that I had a Missile 2 piece suit, which became too small. Should I go for another 2 piece or a one piece. I ride very hard, pegs scrapping on each spirited rides. Few track days (1-2/summer). What should I go with? Thanks!
I prefer a one piece over a two piece for sure. IMO the one piece is much more comfortable to ride in while offering a little more protection. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear thanks!
I Have a 1pc leathers. Two 2pc leathers and a and a causal 2 pc.
It is nice to have options if you can afford them. - Van
This video opened my eyes to riding with one piece suits...hmmm
Happy to hear it was helpful. - Van
You're da man dude!!! Cheers!
Thank you for watching! - Van
I currently own one of each. one piece & two piece. As I considering doing some long distance touring soon, I assume a two piece would be my best option. (don't know anyone who's toured in a one piece?
For touring a two piece is the way to go. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear. Thanks, that's sorted that out.
I got myself both..
Alpinestar Missile Tech-air Full Suit and a Missile Tech-air Jacket..😂
Having options is never a bad thing. - Van
Now the question is...airbag vest or armor ?
IMO the airbag vest provide the highest level of protection currently available. - Van
Hey mate , great reviews hey just a question ?? Iam the exact same size and height as you and a friend of mine just sold me a very cheap deal on a 2 piece alpinestars leather suit and the pants fit perfect and the jacket is a fraction big at size EUR 60 do you recon that is to big for someone our size , I heard you mention in one of your reviews that you was a size EUR 56 in the alpinestar jacket any help or advice would be much appreciated
A 60 Euro would be way too large for me. I am a 54 - 56 Euro in pretty much every suit on the market. - Van
Do you have a link to the two piece suit?
Here is a link to the 2 piece suits on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/riding-gear/motorcycle-race-suits/?search_query=&page=1&limit=48&sort=featured&Product=Race%20Suit%20(2%20Piece)&category=59004&is_category_page=1 - Van
I'd go with one piece, for me is the best anime out there.
What is anime? - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear 🤣😂, well let me teach you young grasshopper.
@@sportbiketrackgear , by the way; I love your videos man, very educational straight to the point!
Great vid.
Thank you for watching! - Van
STG !!! 🤙
Appreciate you! - Van
Nice informative video
Thanks for watching. - Van
Hey Brian, I'm a new rider and want to do some track days next riding season. My concern is that I'm 5'4" and don't think I can find a suit that will fit me. I doubt I could afford a custom suit. Is it possible to have a suit altered or what do you recommend I do?
not Brian, but a fellow shorty. Finding the right length in off the rack leathers is next to impossible for shorties. The advice I was given that I found to work is to pull up the leather a little from just under the knee (then zip up boots so it's held that way) and once you are on the bike the armor is usually in the right spot. If not, it's most likely adjustable up or down on the inside. For sleeve length, a good tailor that knows leather can fix that easy peasy.
@@jessicabaker4763 ok, thanks for the advice. I've never actually put one on so I can't quite picture what you are talking about but when I get one I can figure it out.
@@dmcontino sorry, was trying to figure out how to describe it. pulling up the leathers so the bottom of the legs isn't all bunched up, and they are more where they should be. is that a little better description?
@@jessicabaker4763 ya I think I get it, thank you!
At 5' 4" it can be a bit of a challenge to find the right fit in a race suit. That said there are options that may work off the rack. Please shoot us an email to orders@sportbiketrackgear.com and work with the staff so they can help you find some available options. This is more than I can do over UA-cam comments making email or a phone call a better option. - Van
Light track stuff and dragging knee on the twisty streets, 2 piece. Anything more, 1 piece.
Two piece is more convenient on the street for sure. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear yeah I'm gonna get a 2 piece, one piece for when I get an actual race bike. (Turbocharged R7 or the rumored R8)
brother hook me up with some riding gear. need a one piece suit
We have plenty for sale on the site. - Van
It does matter you don't have anything vin stock anyway
We have a ton of inventory here and more on the way. The volumes we are seeing are unprecedented and we are starting to see some inventory shortages due the the disaster it is to import goods at this time. Not sure what the motivation is for your comment. - Van
This is the reason I got both of them Lol
Life is smooth and easy when you have all the bases covered. - Van
I want to buy a quality riding jacket for less money
Take a look at the RST Jackets on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/rst/ - Van
Will my current Alpinestars jacket zip up to a pair of RST trachtech evo pants? Or do the zipper sizes differ between brands?
Thanks
No the zippers will be different. That said the jackets and the pants will both come with the other half of the zipper so you can take this to a tailor and have the other half attached so you can zip them together. - Van
Well mr. Van Dam, I have both and two stand alone leather and textile jackets. My one piece fits like yours if you’re honest. It’s tight in the crotch and baggy ass in the back, looks like something is wrong. The positive is ahh, umm, not sure.
Now the two piece( both heavy duty from the same manufacture), the pants fit amazing, and the jacket also. It’s so much more comfortable to ride in, not even close. Pros/ fit looks and feels better, usually cheaper, removeable jacket for extended stops or breaks in between sessions. As far as getting it on an off it’s easier than the one piece. But let’s be honest, both are easy with the right undergarment. I have a bulge on the one piece in the front that is nonexistent with the two piece. I do enjoy switching out occasionally, however, the two piece is the way to go. Also one other side note, they won’t admit it but riders look at like you are a rookie or can’t afford a one piece, not all but some. Certainly for most, one will feel better than the other, but when it comes to my two suits both will afford me the same protection. Both are 1.3-1.4 genuine leather.
Also my two piece are directly made for each other, no mix and matching, huge difference. The deals are ou there, I bought two premium suits for a combined price of 775$
Thanks for sharing your feedback. IMO 1 piece is 100% the way to go on the track. 2 piece has it's advantages for the street. - Van
How much does that Monster energy tracksuit in the background cost and where can i buy one at?
That is a crashed Cal Crutchlow suit I have in my personal collection. Sorry not for sale. - Van
I think the bathroom thing is more an issue for women than men, unless for whatever reason you're dropping deuces at the track.
100% - Van
The two pieces leather suit that you saw as isn't racing as the one piece suit...
So the comparison between them its not right and fair...
The point is to illustrate the difference between 1 and 2 piece. If you plan to ride on the race track buy a 1 piece. - Van
2 Peice Crispy when I'm riding
I have always preferred a one piece suit. - Van
if you walk into starbucks they will call the fashion police.
Easy to fix, don't go to Starbucks. - Van
... and then you look like a Power Ranger! 😂
Better than looking like hamburger. - Van
6.14 . Did he say more convenient?
Heck i heard it as smoking weed! 🤣
Did you smoke before watching this??? 100% more convenient was said. - Van
I creat 1 piece and 2 piece lather suits
Congratulations! - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear thanks Sportbike family
All i hear is mumbling
I would suggest making an appointment at the ear doctor. - Van
Much easier to use the bathroom with a two piece lol.
LOL that is a true statement if you need to shit or are a woman. - Van
HI, WE'RE MANUFACTURES OF MOTORBIKE LEATHER APPAREL. ARE YOU INTERESTED TO WORK WITH US?
No please go away with your bullshit spam. - Van
One word you forgot to mention... POCKETS
Most of the race suit will have one interior pocket for the one piece suits while two piece suits have 2 or more inside with the 2 exterior pockets in the jacket. - Van
power ranger XD
Don't be a hater
@@sportbiketrackgear I dont hate it. I love the way you said it.
Terrible reviews
Then don't watch them let alone spend the time leaving comments. - Van
thanx for this super vid !
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van