EV Tariff? Ovo Drive Anytime Or Intelligent Go Octopus
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2024
- Got an electric car? wondering which of these 2 companies has the BEST energy deal for you? Comparing the 2 energy deals from both these companies is confusing and not as straightforward as it could seem so I compare the benefits and pricing of both these smart energy deals and we find out which offers the best price per kwh for charging your electric car and the answer might surprise you!
00:00 Octopus Go Intelligent vs Ovo Drive anytime
00:19 Ovo Anytime Rates Vs Octopus Energy Intelligent Rates
01:14 How Car Charging Works & Cost per kWh
01:31 OVO anytime CHEAPER?
02:23 Octopus Offpeak Every NIGHT PLUS Bonus Hours
04:03 Octopus Intelligent for cheaper unless!
04:31 Getting MORE Offpeak Hours at a cheap rate
06:10 Who Will Be Cheaper On OVO?
07:14 Batteries make the most!
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@nicolasraimo started to watch your videos 5 years ago and bought a used 22kwh Zoe to test the waters - having been persuaded that we could probably live with an EV as a second car. This time last year we upgraded the Zoe to an MG ZS EV and now we've swapped our diesel estate for a Skoda Enyaq. So a full EV house now, and you provided the information and reassurances to get the transition going and see it through to completion.
Thank you! 👍 😁
I'm an OVO Anytime customer and my current car charge rate is 6p/kWhr. I understand that their rates vary across the country. My car has V2L so I can plug devices into the car to take advantage of the cheaper rate. For instance I always plug the vacuum cleaner into the car to clean it.
6p is before the 5% vat add the vat your at 7p… which car do you have is it on octopus intelligent
Nigel, if it is your wall box that is compatible any AC that comes out is at the cheap rate. Yes I have tested it. For obvious reasons I can't post about it but I'm sure you can work it out for yourself. Not that you should do it. I did it just for research purposes.
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As always, appreciate your hard work.
I am another Ovo Anytime customer and I have found that, provided you don't expect to charge during the late afternoon/early evening peak, you can charge your car during the day up to 5pm at the 7p rate. Clearly if you are prepared to time-shift big washing loads you can probably offset the higher Octopus rates and if you can afford to plug the car in during the day (rather than using it), there is an unspecified benefit if they choose to charge the car "early". I think both rates are attractive - the key thing is to avoid the full capped 28p rate and especially the ridiculous rates seen at public chargers.
I'm on OVO anytime and have not found any daytime charges being restricted, once you initiate the smart charge.
Hi Nicholas, I have listened to most of your videos but could not find a direct reference to those who are not using an electric vehicle but they want to use the cheapest rate on the market for off peak electricity in order to complement their "fully Independent" PV system (absolutely not connected to the grid for exporting) especially during the few months where England is lacking of sun radiations. What I mean is using the energy for the charging just like a normal appliance with the benefits of the cheapest rate as I'm not sure if Octopus offers that.
Perhaps it would be not a bad idea for you to make a video on this subject, unless of course you've already done so and I missed it). Thanks for your work 🙏
If you haven’t got an EV but have solar and battery they do offer deals for this evnick.com/energy is frequently updated but octopus flux and octopus intelligent batteries
Would be nice to see some numbers on screen to make the comparisons clearer.. lots to take in here.
As the video was more THIS IS CHEAPER FOR YOU unless you can't get it I didn't think it needed the figures on, basically octopus intelligent will be cheaper for you if you can get it if you can't get it ovo be cheaper if you have a charger or car they have and octopus don't
Do you have any advice on how to get Octopus to install a smart meter? I’ve been asking for one consistently for as number of years. They installed one for my neighbour recently, but seem intent on ignoring me.
I had the same problem, I went onto x (Twitter) and sent them a dm asking if they could help and got an appointment within the next day. The appointment wasn’t until five weeks after but I got my new smart meter and I am now on a smart tariff that suits me a lot better. Hope this helps.
try twitter or email greg direct
I emailed Greg directly- same issue for me, over a year of repeatedly asking (pleading!) and was repeatedly told there were no engineers in the area - yet when the Octopus installer came to fit them, he was astonished, as he said he’d been fitting them in our area for 18 months and had loads of free appointments during the entirety of that time!!
He was quite alarmed as they weren’t getting enough work - and suggested there was something wrong with Octopus’ booking systems.
I have a Renault Zoe and a Rolec charger neither of which are compatible with Intelligent Octopus Go. My question is, can I just set scheduling in the car (or worst case, physically plug in) to charge at the lower rate between 23:30 and 05:30, or does the car, or charger, actually have to talk to Octopus to get those rates?
You need a compatible charger or car to switch to Intelligent Go and you need to use it to continue to get the cheap rate. Octopus Go is best if you don't have a compatible car or charger and don't want to pay for a charger install.
As Andrew has said above intelligent is for them to control the car or charger if you don’t have one they can control you can’t join the deal, try octopus go instead info on the deals at evnick.com/energy
@@AndrewEbling Thank you both. I have switched from Flexible to Octopus Go and will see how I get on.
Based on your recommendations I've recently shifted from EDF E7 to Octopus E7. I have a 5 port smart meter though which feeds my separate consumer unit for storage heating and hot water. I now want to shift to OI ( have Tesla and home battery) Can Octopus remotely convert my meter to single rate on BOTH outputs so it can work with OI. I will of course need individual timers for heaters and hw but that would be far cheaper than major rewiring.
Is it a SMETS 2 smart meter or an economy 7 meter?
If you have a 5 port economy 7 meter then you'll have to get a SMETS2 smart meter first.
@@Lewis_Standing It's an EDMI es-12b Smets2 meter, fitted by EDF prior to shifting to Octopus (as Octopus recommended on their website for potential joiners)
Pass…. Worth an email to octopus metering team with photos I suggest or maybe Twitter tag John oes
Economy 7 or ‘white meter’ tariff is one of the most overlooked value tariffs IMO. Octopus rates for Economy 7 is 16p per unit overnight for a whopping 8.5 hours (11pm - 7:30am) which is great if you’re using it for home storage heaters & water heating, and you don’t need a smart meter.
@williammykura2342 Sure, that's what I'm on, but octopus intelligent is even better if used properly . I just need to sort out the meter switching first as stated above.
Is there any way of predicting/knowing when Octopus give you the discount rate outside of the nighttime period?
they tend to give a 5 day GREEN forecast if you pick a green day or its VERY windy and sunny or a weekend chances increase!
What about export rates for those who have solar? My understanding is that IO has a 15p export rate what about Ovo?
Ovo export is poor at 4p but you could move your SEG export to Scottish power for memory 12p a kWh
OVO's export rate of 4p is paid quarterly after you send them a photo of your smart meter reading, following which they post a cheque to you in settlement.
@@briangriffiths114Wow I'm amazed they don't make you fax it to them! 😂
One great thing about OVO is they will install a smart meter (ours currently isn’t smart enough)
So will Ocotpus
It would take a lot to get me to leave octopus. Never had such good service from a company. They extended our octopus go 4.5p tarrif for a year after energy prices sky rocketed because they forgot to send an email saying the tarrif was due to end. The free electric periods are amazing, we regularly get 4-10 hours of electric free each week. Every time we've had an issue theres been very generous financial compensation without even asking. I once had hours missing from a saving session equalling about £3, they sent over £25 credit immediately. Octopus think about customer service for the long term and inderstand that over time short term losses to keep customers happy will be reimbursed plus extra over the long term
What if you are a shift worker operating in unusual hours?It is not a very good idea if you have to put your EV on charge at times that your energy supplier will not supply that charge.Yet more reasons not to buy an EV yet.
If your a shift worker buy solar and charge purely off the solar panels instead
What Nick said, and/or home battery.
I have a 6 year old dum rolec. Mini cooper s electric and a MG4 Xpower can i get intelligent?
The charger of course won’t be but your need to check the list regularly on octopus intelligent checker direct link at evnick.com/energy it’s updated frequently
Heterochromia, also thanks for the info...
Do I need an EV car for these schemes?
Yes
Octopus limits access to OI severely. Don't expect to be able to join!!!!
How do you mean? If charger or car is on list u can as per video
Shame a lot of people can’t make use of these tariffs. I have an MG with a Podpoint charger and standard Go is the only option. Need a version of this analysis that assumes you don’t have a specific charger or car.
@@amiddled that’s what octopus GO does as per video
@@NicolasRaimo are there any other none-car/charger specific alternatives to go, though?
I’ve been on Intelligent Octopus Go for a while now and my home storage battery is set to charge to 100% overnight on cheap rate. While it’s great seeing what extra hours you get when you plug the car in, I’ve found the extra hours are not actually as useful as you might think.
The car charges during the extra hours, BUT the car will charge overnight anyway so there’s little benefit of the early charging. The storage battery will supply the house loads until it starts to recharge overnight, so the house does not use the extra cheap hours. So the extra hours are only useful if you don’t have a home storage battery, or your battery is too small to supply the house for the full day, or you can be bothered to check what extra hours you’ve got, and manually turn on extra loads to use the cheap energy.
The main benefit of Intelligent Octopus Go is the 6 hours of cheap energy overnight at 7.5p, which is excellent and a great benefit of EV ownership.
Note you need to set your car charger to ‘avoid drain’ from the battery otherwise your car will drain your home battery when it’s switched on during the extra hours. The simplest way to do this is by wiring the car charger on the ‘grid’ side of the battery, not the ‘home’ side, so the battery does not know when the car is charging.
You need to look at home assistant to stop battery draining into car/house during extra hours and instead charge