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  • IS THIS THE SMARTEST EV CHARGER? - INDRA SMART PRO
    In this episode of Artisan Electrics, Jordan takes you on a deep dive into how we install electric vehicle chargers. This install includes a channel first appearance from The Indra Smart Pro! Smart by name. Smart by nature, and possibly the smartest charger currently on the market? Stay tuned to find out what makes this charger so smart!
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    The Smart PRO is the smartest electric vehicle charger available on the market. Chock-full of the latest smart features, this innovative EV charger brings you cheaper, faster and more advanced home charging. The British-made Smart PRO EV charger enables you to take advantage of the lowest-cost electricity from your supplier and free power from your rooftop solar without having to buy an add-on kit.
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    ⏱️Timestamps
    00:00 Is this the smartest EV Charger
    00:15 Welcome to the episode
    00:42 Meeting the customer
    01:00 Plan for the install
    01:30 Consumer Unit
    03:54 Main cut out fuse
    06:19 Gas Pipe
    07:13 INDRA Charger unboxing
    09:25 Lining up the drill
    10:43 Angle Drilling
    11:33 EV Ultra Cable
    12:40 EV height regulations
    13:27 Mounting the bracket
    14:31 Rawl plug hunt
    16:09 Mounting the charger
    17:48 Clipping the cable
    18:45 Doughnut time
    19:17 Cable stripping tools
    19:38 Wiring up the charger
    22:09 Wiring the consumer unit
    23:50 R1 & R2 Testing
    24:59 Double check
    25:25 Charger Internet Connection
    26:57 Putting the cover on
    27:27 Sorting the tails
    28:42 Checking connections
    29:11 Data cable
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    33:31 Charger B-Roll
    33:58 We’re all set up
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 343

  • @artisanelectrics
    @artisanelectrics  2 роки тому +5

    Let us know your thoughts on the Indra Smart Pro Charger. Make sure you’re subscribed to our Channel with Notifications on - bit.ly/3nqFpXp-ArtisanElectrics

    • @aaaa-ig6sc
      @aaaa-ig6sc 2 роки тому +2

      I've had mine for three months and can't fault it. The app is fairly decent, clear billing section and easy to use. It also supports Octopus Go and Agile to charge when it's the cheapest slots. Rumor has it SoC is coming soon, rather than just idle/boosting etc.

    • @aaaa-ig6sc
      @aaaa-ig6sc 2 роки тому +2

      Can you do a video based on Indra's V2G/V2H charger, uses Chademo bidirectional to send it back into the house or grid. CCS soon 🤞

    • @gap9992
      @gap9992 2 роки тому +1

      Can it be set up to vary charging to avoid sending my spare solar back to the grid ?

    • @gadgetman36
      @gadgetman36 2 роки тому +2

      I much prefer the look of the Andersen, Indra and Zappi to the Hypervolt, which looks so untidy with its separate holster and extra 4 holes that need to be drilled for it. I can’t believe the awful Rolec Wallpods like Jordan ripped out are still being fitted, but they are on a new build housing estate near me.

    • @aaaa-ig6sc
      @aaaa-ig6sc 2 роки тому +1

      @@gadgetman36 I think Anderson wins on style, I would take the Hypervolt over Indra Smart Pro even with the separate holster. The Zappi literally looks like a toilet seat but is a decent EVSE (just need to order in black 😜)

  • @GeordieDashCam
    @GeordieDashCam 2 роки тому +104

    Hmmm, one point. personally if I want something screwed securely into a wall I'd never ever go into the mortar, fixing into the brick invariably gives a 'more' spherical hole which enables the rawl plug to grip correctly. After 50 years of many different fixings I can well remember the blocks of wood hammered in to a gouged out mortar line, as the mortar degrades fixings become loose .... in brick they stay fixed.

    • @biaelectric9066
      @biaelectric9066 2 роки тому +5

      Still calling them Rawl Plugs, eh? If you were on the Fischer Duos you wouldn’t be so worried where you placed them!

    • @heladas90
      @heladas90 2 роки тому +1

      I'm all about using the wall dog screws when mounting EV chargerd

    • @GeordieDashCam
      @GeordieDashCam 2 роки тому +8

      @@biaelectric9066 Hi there, yup, still calling them 'rawl' plugs, more as a generic term and it's what Jordan referred to them as. I've never tried 'Fischer Duos' and I'm sure they are admirable but checking their website pictures they don't actually show any of them going in the mortar line.
      I was merely making the point that in my opinion, any fixing is much more secure in brick than mortar, it's 15 years since I retired but I doubt mortar has improved. Having said all that, an EV charger probably has a limited lifespan and will no doubt be replaced long before the mortar crumbles.
      (I was never worried where I placed my fixings as they always went into brick) :-)

    • @tombarrett1487
      @tombarrett1487 2 роки тому +5

      @@GeordieDashCam actually, although I agree with your comment regarding drilling the brick and not the mortar line, the plugs Jordan used are made by Rawlplug, so in this case it was the correct nomenclature.

    • @rogerbean393
      @rogerbean393 2 роки тому +3

      It’s the awesome drilling crew again , always in the mortar!!!! He will never learn.

  • @essexcountyelectricalltd
    @essexcountyelectricalltd 2 роки тому +21

    This chargepoint is a hell of alot smarter than mentioned, the PEN fault settings are selectable dependant on the installation and reference earthing especially if you have solar pv to avoid nuisance tripping. This manufacturer is one to watch as they are ticking alot of the boxes for the future installations.

  • @rogerbean393
    @rogerbean393 2 роки тому +6

    Just keeps on giving !
    Your current transformer needs to be before the Henley block to take into account the other household loads.There was another set of tails going to a switched isolator feeding a outbuilding or garage.
    Good practice to keep meter tails away from Gas pipes.
    For reference and it’s not an electrical reg. but a gas reg. Meters and associated fittings have to be 150mm from electrical services. Gas pipework has to be 25mm from cabling or be separated by an insulating barrier or the pipework is wrapped in insulating material.

  • @justme5384
    @justme5384 2 роки тому +44

    13:37 no it's spaced so you can always hit the brick and not the mortar. Never fasten to mortar, it crumbles with time and you'll have a EV charger on the ground

    • @blower1
      @blower1 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed - my experience of securing in the mortar, is never do it! - as you say it crumbles, or you end up with a spinning wall plug. On some properties it is tough enough for wall plugs but there is so much variability that its better to stick with going through the brick.

  • @awestrope74
    @awestrope74 2 роки тому +8

    To truly future proof the install i would also install a cat5 for the data connection of the charger itself in addition to one used for the CT. You could use the same cat5 cable given you only need 2 pairs for a 100mb connection which would be more than adequate leaving 2 pairs for CTs

  • @geraldelwood9660
    @geraldelwood9660 2 роки тому +38

    Do you really prefer to drill (for screws) into the mortar course. I have always found there is a significant risk of sandy/flaky mortar, so I will always choose the bricks to drill into.

    • @LoudAsFuckk
      @LoudAsFuckk 2 роки тому +2

      Same

    • @havoctrousers
      @havoctrousers 2 роки тому +4

      I thought everyone did this, really surprised to see Jordan fixing to the mortar.

    • @rogerbean393
      @rogerbean393 2 роки тому +1

      It is considered bad practice ! Only to be entertained If the bricks are crumbling and the mortar is better.

    • @michaelsimpson6603
      @michaelsimpson6603 2 роки тому

      @@LoudAsFuckk Ditto, dislike fixings in motar.

  • @nigelhudson1948
    @nigelhudson1948 2 роки тому +3

    Just after you released this video my Indra Smart Pro stopped charging after about 5 months service. After a month and at the third time of asking the installer, ChargedEV, finally turned up to look at it. Turns out that the lever lock connector on the live wire of the charging lead had popped open and it had gone open circuit. The electrician said that he was not a fan of the lever lock connectors as he had several instances of them coming unlocked due to the thermal cycling of the copper cores. This simple issue has cost me a month of being able to access my EV charging tariff - I'm a very disgruntled customer.

    • @adriansmith8213
      @adriansmith8213 2 роки тому

      Happened with the neutral with me. Now I'm waiting for a solid red light fix

    • @twig3288
      @twig3288 Рік тому

      Screw terminals provided they’re tightened properly are more reliable IMO

  • @zoltrix7779
    @zoltrix7779 Рік тому +1

    I love watching all these videos as an Australian electrician. Things done differently in different countries. Something's are better, some things worse. Biggest thing for me is the non mechanically protected mains cables. Differences in terminology. "Main Cut-out Fuse" = "Service Fuse". "Consumer Unit" = Switchboard (Main Switchboard if its the first one after the meter). We would use a 100A service fuse on 16mm2 mains, but the power company would have us use a 63A circuit breaker as the main switch so the service fuse is the last resort. We also always have a earth electrode at each installation. Earth is bonded to neutral inside the main switchboard/consumer unit (We call it the MEN link). This is a suposed safety device to keep voltage down to around 80v or so should an exposed part become live but not enough current flows to operate a CB.
    Those cables clipped to the outside of the wall wouldn't be acceptable here, you would need some kind of mechanical protection, this would normally mean conduit or ducting. However, we basically never use armoured cable.

  • @PlanetCypher_
    @PlanetCypher_ 2 роки тому +15

    13:49 or it ensures you always miss the mortar to make sure you get a solid fixing into the brick🤔

    • @Sunneful
      @Sunneful Рік тому

      A pro never misses

  • @allbymyself85
    @allbymyself85 4 місяці тому

    Wera tools: simply the best. That's probably the deepest explanation I could get. Thanks

  • @michaelagnew7825
    @michaelagnew7825 2 роки тому +2

    you are supposedto drill into the brick, spacing in brackets will also serve to avoid mortar

  • @2Balint
    @2Balint 2 роки тому +7

    That CT clamp should be before the split!

    • @eyresysleftpeg
      @eyresysleftpeg 2 роки тому

      Only measuring half of the bloody house!

  • @TwineLightMedia
    @TwineLightMedia 2 роки тому +17

    One of, if not THE most engaging informative EV install videos I’ve seen. Keep it up Jordan !

  • @makg4655
    @makg4655 2 роки тому +5

    Wow if that hole saw had just pushed through while u blinked that neutral was well mangled

  • @MrBobmeadows
    @MrBobmeadows 2 роки тому +18

    If the CT clamp is attached just under the consumer unit, did it cover all the incoming grid supply? There seemed to be a split (through a Henley block) of the customer tails.

    • @2Balint
      @2Balint 2 роки тому

      Of course, it is in a wrong place!

    • @jordonbutler7509
      @jordonbutler7509 2 роки тому +1

      If you look closely you can see the switch is off, my guess it’s an old economy 7 install

    • @haldo691
      @haldo691 2 роки тому

      The other tails went to that ancient fused isolator with piro coming out of it probably a garage supply

    • @sparkstack
      @sparkstack 2 роки тому

      It doesn’t look like it. Curious also why it was reading a negative number. I think it was the wrong way around.

  • @Chris_In_Texas
    @Chris_In_Texas 2 роки тому +2

    32:47 isn't the CT clamp on backwards? It shows the house is drawing -2725 watts on the screen. So you are generating power and putting it back in the grid? That should be a positive number. I assume there is an arrow on the CT clamp or the wiring was reversed on the unit.

  • @Vikingza
    @Vikingza 2 роки тому +3

    With networking cable, if you use 2 pair, you have a 100mbps link. If you use all 4 pairs you will have a 1gbps link.
    You cannot have CTs and ethernet in the same cable as the CT will interfere with the Lan connection and cause it to drop all the time.

    • @MrOcsicman
      @MrOcsicman Рік тому

      Keep the pair twist intact when terminating the ends...this limits the cross-talk between the data-pairs.

  • @shilks8773
    @shilks8773 2 роки тому +3

    I believe that the vertical distance for Metric brick ( 215L x 102.5W x 65Hmm) is slightly less the the old Imperial size bricks (Pre 1960's) which were 9" x 4" x 3" (230 x 102.5 x 76) - at least the imperial size is what my bricks are.

  • @alanrose4827
    @alanrose4827 5 місяців тому

    I tend to fit the lower energy water heaters, they can be run on 1.5mm2 3C+E, lower bills, but must have separate circuit depending on water capacity.

  • @eddiereed5025
    @eddiereed5025 2 роки тому +5

    The first thing i did in this situation requested isolator to be fitted by supplier so that work to upgrade tails could be carried out Octopus carried this out and allowed upgrades to be completed before calling DNO. How did you go about liasing with DNO, Supplier, like you mentioned this would have been a nightmare, Or did you pull the cut out !!!! Even if you did it would have been a 100% better job if you had fitted an isolator although the tails were very short .

  • @sparkygazza
    @sparkygazza 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Jordan I was of the understanding that the charger had to be on a Double Pole RCD or RCBO.

  • @StuartPittaway
    @StuartPittaway 2 роки тому +3

    Shouldn't the CT clamp be on the incoming meter tails before the Henley block?

  • @n0tryhard0nlyfun82
    @n0tryhard0nlyfun82 Рік тому

    Greetings from France,
    I've been binge-watching your videos last few days and i had to thank you for the content and the quality of your videos / work, as an apprentice i'm learning a lot and it motivated me to make everything look NEAT.
    Jordan scared me a little on this one when he drilled through the electrical panel, not about the wire because i know Jordan maxed out the "Artisan Angle Drilling" skill.
    It was about the connections, i don't know if you use the same hole saws but ours would shake the panel so much that sometimes if the installation is old or if the work is (learned that here) "rubbish", screws of the circuit breaker could come loose creating arcing. So we do it power off and we tighten the screws just after.
    Anyway i was quickly reassured when the connections were tightened but i was surprised that you didnt make the correlation between the vibrations and the loosening.
    You have a great team and i thank you again for your work and your videos which allowed me to learn even more about our profession.
    A la prochaine👋

  • @BerkeleyTowers
    @BerkeleyTowers 2 роки тому +2

    Ref your comment about the age of the incoming mains....... I had the DNO out recently to replace the meter board and uprate the incoming fuse, and I asked whether the age (64 years) of the incomer was an issue...... he said that (in his opinion) it was better quality than the stuff they put in new installs..... So, who knows?
    I would echo others with not going into mortar lines with fixings.....And whilst the idea of putting the mounting holes at standard brick/block spacings is great in theory, I don't think they've ever been out on site and measured real life brickwork! Which leads to the worst of both worlds of holes half in/half out on the edge of mortar lines. Middle of the brick every time!

    • @makg4655
      @makg4655 2 роки тому

      Mortar fixings is just for ease and use the mortar line as a guide

    • @JC-jv5xw
      @JC-jv5xw 2 роки тому +1

      I had exactly the same comment recently. DNO fixed a high Ze (1.5ohm) on a TN-S supply, old lead/paper/tar cable from either the 60s or possibly even the 1930s. Asked the guy if the cable was deteriorating and he said it was fine and would last longer than any replacement they could put in. (Fix was shorting N-E in a new junction about half way back to the road, Ze now down to 0.25. I suppose/hope the road supply was already PME?) .

    • @haldo691
      @haldo691 2 роки тому +2

      The old paper lead cables were much better made than the new plastic cables unless it's a joint or damage the cables very rarely fail

  • @davewright22
    @davewright22 2 роки тому +2

    Did anyone spot Jordan had fitted the CT clamp the wrong way round? 32:30 shows a negative current draw,. Unless of course there’s solar PV.

  • @cj-rb8fz
    @cj-rb8fz 2 роки тому +6

    Bonding clamp on paper Lead armoured 🙈, 3m of flexi tails and no switch fuse isolator 🙈 and fixing into courses instead of bricks 🙄, and board right near gas meter and pipe work

  • @lucidlx
    @lucidlx 2 роки тому +1

    Shouldn’t the CT be before the Henley block split? Also CT was backwards, since reading negative values in app.

  • @andrewwright1200
    @andrewwright1200 2 роки тому

    My 1971 bungalow was built with 16mm tails and a 100A service fuse. It also had 3 CU's, one with 4 circuits (cooker 32A, emersion 16A, sockets 32A, lights 6A), one with 2 circuits (Central heating 63A and central heating boost 63A), a 1 ton cast iron block heated for hot air ducted heating and the final one with 3 circuits for 3 extra night store heaters (3* 16A).
    Pretty sure it was pulling over 100A at times

  • @TWOKDOK1
    @TWOKDOK1 2 роки тому +4

    I’m sure it won’t be long before security cabinets for charging points will become necessary, to inhibit people nicking your charging point and cable. ‘Security’ screws are a bit of gimmick.

  • @k1lmo
    @k1lmo 2 роки тому +3

    I have one of these fitted, been very impressed with it.

  • @PlanetCypher_
    @PlanetCypher_ 2 роки тому +5

    23:32 I was under the impression you should not have cable inside a CU that is not rated for 240v, the cat5 is surely not, should it have been hived off inside a wiska before passing through the conductors?

    • @havoctrousers
      @havoctrousers 2 роки тому +5

      None of the inner conductors are exposed in the CU, it's only the cat5e sheath. If the cat5e sheath wasn't rated for 240V then it also wouldn't be rated for being inside that NYY-J cable at all?

    • @PlanetCypher_
      @PlanetCypher_ 2 роки тому

      @@havoctrousers yes my thoughts exactly, it seems the cable does not conform to a specific BS standard as yet anyway, just that you should follow the manufacturer’s instructions/guidance.

    • @roymorton8142
      @roymorton8142 2 роки тому

      I don’t think the data cable should be incorporated inside a 240v cable anyway

  • @Chris_In_Texas
    @Chris_In_Texas 2 роки тому +1

    28:45 Not to be Safety Sally, and call you out, but is that a proper torque screwdriver for those terminal connections? (Just asking for Cory!) 😜😁

  • @keis9396
    @keis9396 2 роки тому

    Este es el mejor video en tema de información técnica de cargadores. Me sorprendió que la casa tiene altos consumo y una ducha eléctrica de 32A y agregando ese cargador se debía aumentar a 100A del disyuntor de la compañía eléctrica jajaja. Acá Chile la ducha eléctrica esta prohibido y el disyuntor mínimo que se instala en la caja de medida de la compañía es de 25A y es el consumo típico de las casas chilenas.
    Buen video Jordan, ¿Nathan volvió o ya no trabaja con ustedes?
    Saludos!

  • @DanielPierce
    @DanielPierce 2 роки тому

    I would put a little plastic or rubber washer behind the mounts screw holes to fill in the gap between the depth of the mortar and the face of the brick where you screwed in the mount so that the mount doesn’t bow when screwed down tight and everything sits flush against the wall…

  • @stephenfriel59
    @stephenfriel59 2 роки тому +2

    are you allowed to clip the CT to the tails inside the CU?

  • @MrBobmeadows
    @MrBobmeadows 2 роки тому +2

    Nice use of PPE Jordan!

  • @LoudAsFuckk
    @LoudAsFuckk 2 роки тому +6

    Fischer Duopower are king of wall plugs, no comparison

  • @JJ-zg1hh
    @JJ-zg1hh 2 роки тому +3

    Great video. Really informative and showed all the steps for the installation. Top work!

  • @abdulhaddad5454
    @abdulhaddad5454 2 роки тому

    One of the top easy explained EV charger installation ,Well done
    Excellent

  • @aaronworley556
    @aaronworley556 2 роки тому +2

    The main fuse doesn't protect the dno cable, it protects the meter tails.

  • @marksmith7147
    @marksmith7147 2 роки тому +1

    Jordan, great explanation regarding ownership of the services i.e. DNO, supplier etc, but could you explain the complications for houses with a looped supply, which affects us in older terraced houses? Thanks in advance.

  • @jesseoconnell4369
    @jesseoconnell4369 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video Jordan, so clearly explained. Will be using this to help explain electrical installations to new ones!

  • @phallanxian
    @phallanxian 2 роки тому +5

    Did you have to install the charger to get the VW home?

  • @sinanozcg250
    @sinanozcg250 2 роки тому +1

    another comment by the way - its kind a nice to me saw still someone else use drill drıvers (nowadays lots of people using impact driver and i dont know why (i think if you are not a carpender it not neccessary )) for screws .

    • @justme5384
      @justme5384 2 роки тому

      If you screw a lot of screws a day your wrist will be hurt. Mostly of course if you screw larger screws like 6x100mm etc

  • @BrianFournier1
    @BrianFournier1 2 роки тому +2

    Nice job Jordan!! I Ike the smart features of the charger, it’s good to see those type of capabilities!

  • @wrdcc01
    @wrdcc01 2 роки тому

    A small block of wood when you're drilling towards a gas pipe and the internals of the CU. Those screws are not nails and drill into the brick not the weak mortar.

  • @clintevans1357
    @clintevans1357 2 роки тому

    Great video. As I work on one site for 9 years, I don't get to install or use new equipment or technology as much as I would like. So seeing this in this video is great. Great work. Clint

  • @harryb713
    @harryb713 2 роки тому +2

    It's always a good day when the notification pops up from UA-cam saying Artisan have uploaded!

  • @HousewerkRecords
    @HousewerkRecords 9 місяців тому +1

    Great vid. How do you rate the Indra against the Hypervolt Home 3 Pro and the PodPoint Solo 3? Be interested to know your thoughts. The Hypervolt has Remote locking of the ev point which is good to stop cheeky undesirables trying to charge when your out or away.

  • @terencelawrence1050
    @terencelawrence1050 2 роки тому +6

    Question shouldn’t the consumers tails from fuse box be shielded as they seem to close to gas meter

    • @geraldelwood9660
      @geraldelwood9660 2 роки тому +2

      I agree there is an issue here. I can't quite see the route of the tails, but if less than 50mm from gas pipes they need shielding. But the flexi gas pipe just below the CU definitely needs shielding since it is within 150mm of the switchgear / CU.

    • @terrydennis467
      @terrydennis467 2 роки тому +1

      First time I've heard an electrician say that the closeness of a gas line to a consumer unit is "great".

    • @jonnysegway7866
      @jonnysegway7866 2 роки тому +1

      it does seem strange that the CU is right next to the incoming gas, not the best position

  • @Gr33nMamba
    @Gr33nMamba 2 роки тому +2

    I quite like this charger, slightly industrial but reassuring. Knowing I have the horrible old main incoming supply cable as described, and a 60 Amp cartridge, it's definitely something I will have to consider knowing whatever charger I go for has the ability to limit load, as I'm not sure how much pain and expense there would be dealing with Western Power.
    Personally I would have used a hard wired data connection any day of the week. The potential for having to reconfigure devices when the customer changed their router (assuming it's all ISP provided defaults) makes it a pain. Even if you just broke the data out in the cupboard, installed another 13Amp socket and used powerline to get back the router location, that would be easier to support long term. Ultimately if the customer is happy!

    • @aaaa-ig6sc
      @aaaa-ig6sc 2 роки тому

      I was told by ChargedEV that installed mine that they always recommend the data dongle first, only if you really don't get any mobile signal then go for ethernet, and then only go for home WiFi if the ethernet isn't practical as a last option.

    • @MG_Steve
      @MG_Steve Рік тому

      @@aaaa-ig6sc Yeah, I had my Indra Pro installed by them too. Weird suggestion tbh as hard wired should be the most reliable, but I work in IT and as there was a in-wall switch the inside wall of the mounting point for the charger, I just wired in a weather proof Cat 5/6 (can't remember which now) into the switch and the installer just wired the other end into the charger.
      If you do hard wire it, make sure you use external grade CAT5/6 cable (unless it goes directly into the charger I guess), mine had a run of about 30cm. Normal Cat 5 will degrade pretty quickly in sunlight & weather.

  • @lee.m.bennett2635
    @lee.m.bennett2635 Рік тому

    Whilst I agree with the upgraded tails. Back in the day 16mm was always used on 100A supplies. And the incoming PILC cable will be 16mm 😂
    Great job though

  • @tommymack3210
    @tommymack3210 2 роки тому

    Security screws is better than snapping. I hate opening snap products when it’s -10,15 degrees celsius and the material just breaks.

  • @wobby1516
    @wobby1516 2 роки тому +3

    Does it work with solar panels in the way that Myenergi’s Zappi can.

    • @mattyt6722
      @mattyt6722 2 роки тому +1

      Still nothing new zappi does all of this and more.

  • @roberthodges3522
    @roberthodges3522 Рік тому

    Love watching your UA-cam videos and I think I have nearly watched them all. I have one of these fitted some time ago and it does have quite a lot of features as in PV Sola as well and the boost function for the full 7kw. The app is good as well.
    Keep up the good work,👍

  • @rosshannemann7772
    @rosshannemann7772 2 роки тому +1

    I never drill into mortar, it can collapse, prefer brick, much sturdier.

  • @williamanthony7224
    @williamanthony7224 2 роки тому

    Fun fact. On the data cable you if fit clamps to the blue and brown pairs you can still use the other pairs for a 100mb network connection. also, I may have lied about this fact being fun.

  • @royyoung3104
    @royyoung3104 Рік тому

    Anyone else just think that to get Electric cars a viable proposition for EVERYONE is pie in the sky!!!
    Just had my survey done and the amount of work involved infitting to a ' relatively ' modern terrace house was ridiculous.
    Goodness knows what woukd have been needed in my old Victorian terrace house...
    What a load of Green Bollox!!!!

  • @metrotechguru5863
    @metrotechguru5863 2 роки тому +2

    Very nice presentation, Jordan. Informative without dragging on with every tiny detailed. You seemed more comfortable making this vid. Good on you.

  • @IanFarquharson2
    @IanFarquharson2 2 роки тому +3

    Ct clamp on the right way round? -2700 showing.

    • @rodd8170
      @rodd8170 2 роки тому

      This would have been corrected after the calibration of ct.

  • @ctsungyi1984
    @ctsungyi1984 Рік тому

    Very surprised the Power supply inside is Open frame style or PCB style. Curious about long term life time with moisture, temp .

  • @markjlewis
    @markjlewis 10 місяців тому

    Was the CT giving a negative reading i.e it was installed the wrong way around?

  • @hallga2
    @hallga2 2 роки тому +1

    why would you not want security screws on the cover??

  • @0072sy
    @0072sy 2 роки тому +3

    Looking at that EV cable with the cat5 cable inside, I was always told keep your data cables away from electrical cables due to the interference and degraded network signals. Is this not the case these days?

    • @MrBobmeadows
      @MrBobmeadows 2 роки тому +2

      Generally the Cat5e is shielded inside EV Ultra-type cables.

    • @duzzah
      @duzzah 2 роки тому

      @@MrBobmeadows shielding only works if one end is grounded, didn't use a shielded cat 5 plug or ground the other end?

    • @timbo19
      @timbo19 2 роки тому +2

      Interference just isn't that big of an issue. Remember that the electromagnetic fields around the live and neutral wires are the same but opposite polarity. That along with them being gently twisted along the length of the cable ensures effective cancellation and thus induction into adjacent cables isn't a significant issue. For the same reason, if measuring current with a clamp meter you have to put it around one wire only as if you put it around the whole cable you get a zero reading. In addition, the wires in the CAT cable are arranged as twisted pairs for the purpose of common mode rejection.
      Shielding isn't relevant to EM fields, it's purpose if present is for rejecting RFI.

    • @MrOcsicman
      @MrOcsicman Рік тому

      These are digital, not analogue signals...using twisted pairs and a floating data ground...most modern ethernet devices can withstand and maintain the required data throughput these days

  • @sivco
    @sivco 2 роки тому

    Very good video interesting. I just picked up my BMW X2 Plugin Hybrid. I can charge with 3 pin socket in the Garage , I will get EV Charger fitted. Thanks for the Video.

  • @7123
    @7123 2 роки тому

    Not going to lie, that charger looks like a cheap soap dispenser. Would be ok inside a garage, but would not want that fitted in a visible location outside my house.
    I understand your reasons for screwing into mortar, but mortar degrades over time hence why houses need repointing (process of renewing the mortar between the bricks) after so many years. Personally would feel more comfortable seeing it installed to brick work so its more secure, especially on a charger where the cable is going to be pulled about to plug into a car.
    As always though, nice professional install other than that :)

  • @matthewstevens7486
    @matthewstevens7486 2 роки тому +2

    Surely that bracket is designed to hit the middle of every brick……..I would not use the mortar for fixing

  • @delspark
    @delspark 2 роки тому +1

    its a smart charger for sure but looks wise I'm not a fan of it. good to see you back on the tools jordan👍🏻

  • @stephenwillis9518
    @stephenwillis9518 2 роки тому +1

    Top job, personally using the mortar to fix to isn't really an issue (let be honest the unit weights not much, and the usage is wrapping the cable around) also thinking of newer style brick which are mainly hollow, your going to get more friction and contact via a mortar joint.

  • @tonywood6332
    @tonywood6332 2 роки тому +1

    I have the Indra, but like your man, waiting for my car (was due end Jan, now May 😏) Nice video 👍

  • @Chris_In_Texas
    @Chris_In_Texas 2 роки тому

    28:10 No conduit fill regs over there, that seems really tight! 😎👍

  • @carlseddon2392
    @carlseddon2392 2 роки тому +1

    I presume you drilled upwards as well to stop water going down the cable. Haven't seen the end yet so I presume again you use sealant

  • @greaterheights7042
    @greaterheights7042 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Jordan!
    This is amazing video ever...keep the good work going.
    I feel like coming over to you for internship on EV installations and other related electrical matter especially smart homes design and installations.

  • @malcdickinson06
    @malcdickinson06 11 місяців тому

    Great video, can you answer a question for me. I have a BP pulse (new WiFi version) that is useless. A friend gave me a Podpoint. He has had his name removed from the charger so he’s no longer associated with the charger. Can I have this installed to replace the BP pulse. Thanks! Malc.

  • @muhammadkhurshid4607
    @muhammadkhurshid4607 2 роки тому +1

    Great watch, very informative as always mate. Keep them coming in 👍🏽

  • @davegeorge7094
    @davegeorge7094 2 роки тому

    USA home standard is one 200amp panel w/split phase.

  • @daraoladapo
    @daraoladapo 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this video.
    I'm considering getting a good budget drill just for home DIY things.
    Do you have recommendations on some that can drill through walls comfortably?

  • @Ted_E_Bear
    @Ted_E_Bear 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Jordan for sharing !

  • @oliverhiestand7098
    @oliverhiestand7098 11 місяців тому

    Are there ev chargers with dynamic load balancing that work with a off grid system that charge more when there is sun and know the status of the battery?

  • @mikeenglish1492
    @mikeenglish1492 2 роки тому +4

    Good vid, camera work excellent 👌

    • @artisanelectrics
      @artisanelectrics  2 роки тому

      👌🏼

    • @makg4655
      @makg4655 2 роки тому +1

      That’s what happens when u set up a media company and use camera men/ women instead of raw electricians showing themselves graft

  • @melhiore
    @melhiore 2 роки тому +7

    0 points for using WPS. It is not secure and should be banned. I am sure there are more secure options to chose from... Apart from that love the charger...

    • @aaaa-ig6sc
      @aaaa-ig6sc 2 роки тому +1

      I don't understand why he didn't use the 4/3g option unless it's really bad signal area

    • @melhiore
      @melhiore 2 роки тому +1

      @@aaaa-ig6sc Yup, looks like cellular is included in price with data for life. Much better option than WPA, probably more stable than home grade wifi...

    • @mikeschooling8346
      @mikeschooling8346 2 роки тому +2

      I agree that the old style WPS with PIN code was insecure as it was always exploitable but the new style with physical push button is much more secure.
      You press the button on the router and it is only insecure for a couple of minutes or until the first device connects. An attacker would need to be in range of your wifi, know you have pressed the button and connect before you did.
      The Smart PRO only supports the push button method.

  • @rogerbean393
    @rogerbean393 2 роки тому

    Did you miss the switched isolator coming of the Henley block , not worth considering ?
    Did you do a ZE on the 6mm existing Earth ?
    What rating is that charger 7.2kw ?
    Why is cable not armoured ? It’s going down the drive

  • @slimski
    @slimski 2 роки тому

    Really dig the Smartface tune. Thanks!!

  • @adammorehouse7664
    @adammorehouse7664 2 роки тому

    My question is, could the client set up different accounts for different users if there were 2 or 3 EVs in the home?

  • @Wintersky136
    @Wintersky136 2 роки тому +1

    32:44 The CT Clamp has a wrong orientation!

  • @haldo691
    @haldo691 2 роки тому +1

    Employing more staff so you have more houses to test chargers at I see your game Jordan

  • @iainnoble1138
    @iainnoble1138 2 роки тому +1

    Seeing as the DB was turned off at the end of the video and working in the dark was it reasonable to work live on the DB connecting up the cable?
    And why not the SWA cable outside as there is no mechanical protection for the cable basically a flex has been clipped to the wall

    • @Blackf1ngers
      @Blackf1ngers 2 роки тому

      A clipped direct cable doesn't require extra mechanical protection. The EV ultra is a tough sheath cable and the manufacturer says it can even be buried direct in the ground.

    • @MrBobmeadows
      @MrBobmeadows 2 роки тому

      Maybe a Dynamic Risk Assessment was done and SWA was deemed unnecessary?

    • @tomsoutham9747
      @tomsoutham9747 2 роки тому

      Externally clipped cable at low level, I would personally put an SWA? Just to cover any chance of damage

  • @mimikm222
    @mimikm222 2 роки тому +1

    Sir, no crimps into those terminals? 20:34

  • @johnfenlon458
    @johnfenlon458 2 роки тому

    What an excellent video!! That's really interesting, the charger! OMG, Not good, the gas pipe is too close!! Should be outside. Great job.. Thumbs up! Cheers! 🤟

  • @stevenpinkerton1705
    @stevenpinkerton1705 2 роки тому +1

    I really wish electricians will stop pulling cut out fuses, ask the DNO for an isolation switch when they do the cut out upgrade.

  • @silverghini2629
    @silverghini2629 Рік тому

    Is a 32amp mcb enough for a unit that can draw up to 32amps?

  • @slimski
    @slimski 2 роки тому

    Also, the spelling of Rawl plug
    Respect John Joseph Rawlings

  • @oldwelshgit
    @oldwelshgit Рік тому

    Cautionary advice when drilling near lead gas pipes.. DONT, we hit a hidden lead pipe buried in plaster, called a plumber to repair, was told they are no longer allowed to repair lead ??? a whole new copper supply to the boiler, cooker and gas fire. thirty years of never making a claim on the insurance, ruined by one 5mm hole..
    gary

  • @jamespegg6418
    @jamespegg6418 Рік тому

    Great news for electricians and copper thieves.

  • @markhowells3835
    @markhowells3835 2 роки тому

    We have this charger constantly needs testing

  • @stephenrussell5751
    @stephenrussell5751 2 роки тому +2

    Hey Jordan,
    I have indra smart pro and also the vw t6.1 abt advance model. Got it in May last year and the van only clocked 700 miles and has been with vw tech center broken since July. Apparently broken charge controller and a full battery pack replacement. I do wonder if the indra caused that catastrophic failure.

    • @haldo691
      @haldo691 2 роки тому

      Can't see how the charger could damage the vehicle all it does is tell the car howmuch power is available to charge with

    • @NikolaiBeier
      @NikolaiBeier 2 роки тому +1

      Unlikely.
      That device from Indra, to hang on the wall, is an 'EVSE' that is there to ensure the electrical connection is switched on after the plug is properly inserted into the car. (among other features). It offers the car the opportunity to pull AC power. it offers permits, but does not decide the details of the charging process.
      The actual charger that takes mains AC power and converts it to DC current that a battery can be charged with, and regulates the current to levels that are safe for the specific battery in that specific car, is inside the car.
      Even though Indra call its product a "charger" in its sales brochure, it is not what one would call a 'charge controller'.
      A good design would have multiple layers of defence, that will stop a fault on the EVSE connection to be passed on to electronics in the car handling the charging protection of the battery. It sounds very extreme that both electronics and battery needs to be replaced, rather than replacing smaller pieces. That might be due to lack of diagnostics. If the actual battery in the battery pack has become damaged, it is very very odd.

    • @stephenrussell5751
      @stephenrussell5751 2 роки тому

      @@NikolaiBeier yeah it is strange. They have had the van since July!

    • @jonnysegway7866
      @jonnysegway7866 2 роки тому

      @@stephenrussell5751 I think Jordan has been having problems with his VW EV van too, I think VW are late to the EV 'party' and rushed the technology through

    • @stephenrussell5751
      @stephenrussell5751 2 роки тому

      @@jonnysegway7866 agreed

  • @simonjenkins982
    @simonjenkins982 2 роки тому

    I have had this Indra for 5 weeks before it stopped working and displays a red light indicating a fault. I am awaiting the installer to come and look at this. The house next door has solar on its roof as has another house two semi-detached houses away. The charger was not fitted with a reference earth, and the electrician said the earth into the main 100amp DNO fuse is not large enough. I have contacted my District Network Operator to look at my earth cable. I am on a TN-C-S system. The charger is connected to a Henley block and its own separate isolator. The Doncaster cable with the load curtailment and line, neutral and earth then runs only a couple of feet to the Indra. At 7Kw charging this cable felt warm in one spot near to the curcuit breaker. So I charged at 2Kw before the Indra stopped working.
    I won't say my EV experience is good as the new car has several intermittent issues with its cruise control and front sensor system. On a motorway at 70mph the car said there was a bend ahead and started to automatically reduce the speed to 40mph. This was not good with a lorry being up my rear-end.
    Great videos. I am not an electrician and I have learnt alot. In my opinion the technology is not there yet and the Government need to invest more and EV cars are too expensive and unreliable.
    Thank you.

  • @marklola12
    @marklola12 2 роки тому

    Do you need earthing with this? Or does it have a pen thing...I'm a noob but because I can't afford one all out...I may use the company egg and pay monthly

  • @jasontibbitts5231
    @jasontibbitts5231 2 роки тому

    Should you have not added you link cable when you null leads R1 R2