Inclusivity Bias: Art "Fixers"
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As a black artist myself I believe we should make our own amazing black characters instead of using a brown paint bucket, and calling it "diverse".
SO damn true!
That requires too much effort for the smooth brained people who demand demand representation.
I agree with you. I always make my own black characters.
True I like to create my own characters who are poc and it's super fun to explore what you can do but some people are just curious about what it would look like for some characters to look like them or have their features I occasionally do it but not for representation or diversity just to see how creative I can get with it while also sticking to the original design I don't post them but it's just a fun thing to do in your past time and if you wanna practice character design but that's just my take 💞💞💞🫂
YES
Fun fact: the original artist, Josh-S26, responded to the person who "fixed" their art that they forgot to remove Scooby because Scooby wasn't even in the Velma spin-off.
LOL
Lol she slaped the "Fixer" right back to her cave 😂😂😂
I saw the original posted and I GENUINELY wanted to smack the "fixer" for this one.
@@RexStyles Yeah everyone, even leftists, hate Velma and think that's it stupid and annoying. Aka LS Mark, Saberspark, Dumbsville, etc. They treat it like the weird AU it is, not canon in the slightest. So treating the racebending in Velma as official canon that should be applied to all fan art is baffling when not a single real, intelligent person likes or supports that show or thinks it's even REMOTELY canon regardless of political leaning. Velma freaking dies in the end and becomes a ghost. It's not canon.
@KrimsonKattYT Canon or not people expect the characters retain their core character and aspects on top of having the writing fit even if it's a spinoff or whatever.
This is something i think some who make these kind of things like Velma never understand nor respect.
So they basically say "Fight racism with racism!" Got it!
"i used the stones to destroy the stones" ahh logic🏴☠️
"I'm you and you are me" ahh mind set
I'm racist (Good 😁)
I'm racist (Bad 😧)
@@NoBloons 🏎💨
Oh remember, for them you can't be racist towards white people
As a black person it was lowkey so annoying so see somebody recoloring Nahida the dendro archon and then proceeded to act like they fixed her!They even went so far as to say black washing doesn’t exist and called me a racist, I posted a pic of myself and they stopped responding 😂
How is it racist?
@@evie7903 they called me racist because I wrote a comment after the art ticked me off saying black washing does exist
Lol it's even more racist to just assume that you're white just based on your opinion.
That's what these people do and I know they're aware it exists, they just don't care and want to make you seem as the bad guy, that's how it always goes.
It’s just how they interpret the character. Usually people don’t do that with the intent of fixing the art, it’s just fun to make headcanons.
I'm really sick of seeing Genshin artists redesign Sumeru characters with darker skin when the scholars and residents of the big fancy cities having paler skin actually makes perfect sense both culturally and historically. Redrawing all of them to have darker skin goes to show how little they actually know/care about the supposed cultures they're trying to represent- which is also lowkey racist to assume all of a certain culture or ethnicity are the same.
Scholars having paler skin is very on brand - those mfs spend 30 hours a day on their studies. They probably don't remember how outside looks 😂
Exactly!
They only see skin tone but not the thought behind the designs.
Personally I was very impressed with how much cultured the Genshin devs were with their choices of names, titles, roles and design!
FOR REAL, I'm absolutely sick of that side of picky choosy shit ass side of genshin fandom
@@kyperactive normally based in the game lore and world building the nation with most characters being dark skinned would be Natlan the Pyro nation.
And the fans know well enough
Edit: but like, Natlan isn't released yet.
That game already got two dark skinned characters so far with sumeru releasing a number that's between white to tan.
as an arab who is very pale…what the fuck are you even on about.? sumeru is meant to be representing not only the middle east, but also south asians. if they were ONLY representing arabs, then sure. making them mostly pale can just be them focusing on one of the countries with paler skin but they are quite literally telling people that they are representing a huge chunk of the continent who nowhere NEAR that pale. if they are claiming for them to be a certain culture and then just making them look like a white girl wearing a stereotypical halloween costume, then i think people redesigning them to look more accurate to their culture is perfectly fine.
imagine being a person of color that just happens to have a lighter complexion, and some SJW gives you tan saying they “fixed you”
Reminds me of how some people (on Twitter, surprise surprise) changed Xinyan and Kaeya' skin tones and then claimed that they "fixed" the characters because their OG skin tones were "too ashy". POC with the same skin tones as Xinyan and Kaeya exist in real life and acting as if there's anything wrong with their skin tones is just gross. I've also seen people racebending fricking Yun Jin which is just straight up wrong
@@whatever5401 it somehow reminds me of an artist on Tiktok, that doesn't colour the skin (no matter which, they just don't colour it, an artstyle choice) and people are always bashing them when they see Kaeya's skin isn't colored. Somehow they can't see that other characters don't have it coloured too lol
I'd rather let an amatuer Panzer Mechanic fix me than whoever delusional twat from Twitter.
It makes sense that these people are actual racists who then go and shove their prejudices onto real creative people. There is videos of anti-racist types racially abusing people for agreeing with the so-called racists, who are quiet and behaving themselves. It is essentially like how Voldemort has folks in Hogwarts pretending to be good and scared of the good ones. They blend in easily and the focus is on the ones who actually want to do good which would be Severus Snape when he was trying to stop Quirrell. These are the same types who badmouth Lovecraft for merely using words that were used back then. Words that are still used in rap songs.
Funny enough there a lot of lighter skin that been told that they can't give opinion about their own race because they not have "right shade of color ".
People forget racism and sexism go both ways
amen🙏
”women can’t have big chest” or ”big chest=automacitally sexual”
@@loka-chan6695 wait until these people find DeviantArt
They act like their not racist but then they will only draw some people with a certain race 🤨
My chest is like non-existent. I remember the first time I discovered chest gravity/physics… one of my high school friend was larger and smaller than me, you know how weight repartition matters with chest size. Anyway she was big-chested, but I didn’t really think it through. She has a different body type is all.
During a school trip, we were having fun in our hotel room. She started dancing and jumping around. My jaw went slack and my eyes went blank when I saw a big mass of skin going up while the other went in the opposite direction. I just didn’t know it was possible. She noticed my shock, laughed nervously and apologized. And I was like "no don’t be, you haven’t done anything wrong, I’m just not used to it at all". I felt bad for her and mentally scolded myself.
Following that experience I wondered if the reason behind my shock was because I perceived her chest movements as sexual.
It’s stupid actually- have you ever looked at a picture of what a breast looks like inside ? There is nothing more ew than the inside of a breast. And technically it’s just localized body fat. It’s just… flesh.
So I’m kinda bored by the common reaction males have towards breasts. It’s okay always blushing, panick or sexualizing. Acting as if the thing itself is an invitation when it’s actually just a ball of flesh. It’s simply there.
I’m positively surprised when female nudity can be shown without focusing on parts that arouse the spectator. I’ve found it in Ghost in the Shell movie and stranger yet Grisaia anime. In Grisaia a girl is changing her top, her breasts are visible for a momant and the dude that talks with her has no ambiguous reaction. He does not pay it mind, neither does she.
Reminds me of the situation with the Puss in Boots artist on Twitter. This person when 'The Last Wish' came out made an AMAZING rendition of Puss if he was a human, people were angry that his skin wasn't dark enough and said that latinas had darker skin. One, they couldn't even get Puss' nationality right (He's a Spaniard) and two, someone could literally be any skin colour! Like A Latina could have lighter or darker skin, as long as the artist isn't being racist who cares?
THIS!!! I'm literally Mexican and I have the palest skin ever, and it's not uncommon for other mexicans to have pale skin either. It's so stupid to assume specific races can ONLY have one color and that's it
“If you’re white you’re not allowed to speak Spanish!”
“Are you familiar with the country of Spain”
These people must think that everyone in south America:Brazil, México, Argentina and etc. Are dark skinned, bro in Brazil more than 43% of the people are white, that's fucking 80 Million 💀
Im Mexican and a lot of my friends are, guess what, WHITE, and all of them are Mexicans also, I don’t understand this thing of if you are of a pale skin, you can’t be latino.
@@CarlosAlarcon26. Same here in Brazil bro.
I'm an NSFW artist so instead of having my art "fixed" they just tell me to off myself which is honestly far more tolerable
Huh...never thought the only thing able to drive these people off was porn...
I should be taking notes
@@eggsandbacon892 Well they either tell you to kill yourself or they feel the need to insult your for drawing porn
Though I mainly do ecchi instead of anything super explicit (I do that too but less) so I'm not entirely sure what their limit is
Ah yeah, i can see that as a better reaction
@@liandoaethend2403 It's at least funny
Like what are they gonna do, assassinate me?
I'd be so proud of myself for getting under so much people's skin to get them to kill me!
I still can't believe that Scooby-Doo picture made Daphne yellow to represent Asians. They made a racist depiction of an Asian, since she's not only yellow as well as now has squinted eyes, but she's also the competent fighter of the group, which is an Asian stereotype, to somehow make representation. Overall, the art fixing is stupid and redundant, since it doesn't add representation, just stagnates it with no actual leaps.
Daphne is Asian along with Velma who's SEA in that picture is because of that dumb Velma show coming out
@@Saltedroastedcaramel isn't velma South Asian?? Like Indian??
I'm glad im not the only one that noticed that they made Daphne asian and more yellow
@@mimmiebat pretty sure that's what SEA stands for, being South East Asian, because nothing says great casting like making the main nerd character into an Asian.
@@Culo_Sniffin_Cheezit yeah, because we all know that Asians are yellow with apparent pointy eyes, not at all either pale or light brown with slightly pointed eyes from their monolids.
4:50 I remember this one, holy shit XD! The moment they got called out and asked to explain how knuckles was supposedly "black coded" and all they could come up with was "his theme is a rap song"
Imagine thinking Knuckles has to be black as a human because his themes are rap music and his quills could kind of look like dreads.
What does that say about you? It's like when they assume orcs are a stand in for blacks, like black humans can't exist in a fantasy setting. No, they have to be represented by creatures usually portrayed as ugly and evil. And that's progressive? Lol okay.
Welp...time "fix" Eminem
I actually visualize knuckles as Polynesian cuz the architecture and the fact his home is an tropical island feel like a reference
But I understand that that’s just my headcanon and it’s not fact
@@garrettlich7140 You should draw your version of Knuckles!
@@MissAtSHy not a bad idea, I could definitely give it a shot after practicing my art more
7:25 she.. added a fucking signature??..
I didnt even notice, fucking disgusting
Omfg ☠️☠️☠️
That’s not even theirs 💀 they just ruined it
@Electrayy exactly why I added 'fucking'
Also I said this before but art “fixers” always give the most over exaggerated features or stereotypical features to their poc’s characters.
It really just shows they don't know what they're doing and just want social justice points
Not to mention they only races as black and white. Oh and how their poc characters are also very stereotypical in personality and bio as well-
I’m starting to notice that when all these SJWs are calling people racists, they are actually projecting themselves to white people. They probably think that since they themselves are white, and have racist views, then everyone who is white must secretly have them too because they failed to realise that not everyone in a single race are clones of each other.
@@vampyroteumint ima be a comment fixer
It’s social credit not social justice
@@PaGDu333 whats the difference
Am curious
The genshin ones are especially silly, cause like what are they trying to achieve? I get wanting darker characters, but "fixing" already existing ones won't do anything. Mihoyo will never see it, and even if they would, they wouldn't care. In the end if they're getting money there's no problem for them. Those people are just waisting their time😭
They want representation it seems but that goal is very far away when the company doesn't even care
I don't think they're trying to "fix them" or trying to get mihoyo/hoyoverse (wtv it's called) to change the character..I think they just do it to have as a pfp ?? if they have common sense knowing mihoyo, they should know they won't do anything so Im pretty sure they're just doing it for fun as "representation" or something
@@heiext yeah the genshin fandom doesn't have common sense though
It doesn't work in the art style anyway. You need to have a high contrast between skintone and linework for the face to be properly defined on a tiny phone screen, it's the same reason you don't draw with a black pen on black paper.
It’s especially dumb that they seem so mad that an East Asian game consists almost entirely of East Asian characters.
5:16 "Stop sexualizing women!"
stop looking at an artists work and calling it sexual because they have big boobs
The original character is even like that, the fuck is their problem 😭
Boobs transplant services: damn we are sexualizing woman 💀💀💀💀 hell nah i dont remember our ancestors fight during ww2 for this
Exactly! Thist is not sexualizing, Girls whith big boobs exist. It'l literally genetic
Real! Like women have boobs!
I hate how women who just happen to have big boobs are immediately so sexualized even when they didn't do any pole dance like stuff...
One thing about the whole "Amandinha lele " situation is that she not only "fixed" the art, ( which is bad enough as it is ) but ALSO slapped her own watermark over art that SHE DID NOT CREATE...??? That's like painting a mustache on the mona lisa and saying you painted it
Remember the rule:
"It's okay when we do it!"
In all seriousness, it's either okay for both black-washing and white-washing to exist, or it's bad for either to exist. Whichever one you decide is morally correct is ultimately up to you, but at least be consistent. Either it's okay for everyone or it's okay for no one.
(In case it's not clear, I'm talking about the people making these "fixes", not you Jack. You're great.)
Both bad, with the exception of doing it just "Because it could look neat"
I've done both just because I was curious how it could look/interesting
agreed
imo both are literally super bad.
the fact that people will throw hands at one while praising the other literally makes me want to scream in agony.
yep. my rule is would it still be okay if the roles were reversed? if something is okay for one person then it should be okay for another and vice versa.
Hard agree. If it's just a fun experiment or whatever and that's cool but people are shoving it down others throat like it's the law to the point where it just needs to stop
"Do not forget that representation exists." So this version of the Mystery Crew that isn't even out officially, is barely a year old in the public eye via concept art and promotion art, and will be dropped once that show ends is more important than the default version of the crew that lasted for decades.
1000% THIS
Not to menchion Velma seems like a self insert
@@honey3762 Meh there's at least 3 self insert characters
And if representation already exists why do they NEED to draw this version of the mystery crew lol
Do not forget that Original exists
This is something that those people in the genshin fandom need to hear. They are trying to push what they think is inclusivity on people, while in some cases erasing the other cultural things that are in the actual game (Dori), like I do think that you can do edits of them, they do look pretty, but don't say you "fixed" them because you won't get any inclusivity out of it and listen to the black people when they say that it won't do nothing cause they're right
I agree, and it makes sense that the respectively browner characters are the ones that are out more often. Al Haitham and the other paler ones are pale because they stay in more, and people draw them black...??? Like how can they possibly be black if they stay in all day. Im not trying to be racist, its literally the truth. Those very people probably make fun of people for staying inside or being white (because they are staying inside) like theyre math isnt adding up. Sumeru is also a desert, so (if it was literal) the sun would hit/shine brighter/uv rays on them more often, so the brown characters there will be... brown. Like yeah, Genshin could've probably made them a little darker, but the way they are is fine too. I dont know why people are like, "guys blackwashing is okay!!!! whitewashing is bad!!" when its still removing the race. It could be like a character from Liyue and someone makes them black. Thats removing their race, still. I do think that making a character a little bit darker would be better or nice in art, because i doubt they all are paper white (majority genshin characters), but they still are pretty pale, because they are inside all day.
@@stellarix_stariaxi do have a problem with the inherent assumption that skin tone entirely depends on sun exposure… a person with dark skin doesn’t need to bathe in the sun daily to stay dark, and some people spend all day in the sun and remain pale as a ghost, it’s all down to genetics. I feel like people confuse tanning with genetic melanin levels when talking about this sometimes.
I get you’re probably just talking about how Sumeru characters being based on Middle Eastern and South Asian cultures makes it more understandable (since yes people from the middle east and south asia have a wide range of skin tones), but those tones aren’t only down to tanning.
And I do think they coulda done better representing the wider array of skin tones in the middle east or south asia even if most of the characters are stuck inside studying, tighnari being a good example, ik the forest gives a lot of shade but he’s still out in the sun a lot more often than other playable characters from sumeru and yet he’s almost the same sickly pale shade that collei is.
i agree but dori is just a racist charicature like full on
i remembered the whole Nahida chaos.
“NOOO, A FANTASY GAME WITH INDIAN CULTURE SPRINKLES IN, WITH OUT BLACK SKIN, I MUST MOLD IT TO MY LIKING”
they always do it with dehya, candace, cyno, and nahida as well. i hate half the genshin community
She’s literally based on a pale white god idk what they talking abt PLUSH SHES BEEN INSIDE FOR?. HUNDREDS-THOUSANDS OF YEARS?.?? SHE WOULDNT BE DARK
@@corpshu true
I think forced inclusivity hurts creativity rather than helps it. I wouldn’t consider it foundational to media. Art shouldn’t be manipulated to fill a race or gender quota. Instead of creating their own characters, ppl just change established characters to fit their own desires. Wouldn’t it be better for the ppl crying about inclusivity to create new art themselves, enriching the world with something novel rather than simply darkening something we’ve all seen before and pretending they did something significant?
This is probably the best point made on the art “fixing” problem, they cry about needing inclusivity, but instead of creating their own inclusive art, they change another one, it’s people pretending to be passionate about what they believe in but they just take the lazy route of changing something that already exists for no reason.
I 1000% agree. Keep creativity free!
Also, creating their own stuff would involve these brats getting off their butts and doing something, which is beneath Twitter-holics.
@@Violet217 rather than throwing tantrum about representation why not they creating their own character. More authentic, original and of course unique if not using for dumb political agenda
👏 This right here
It can be tough sometimes, though in the case of some things, when there can be a multiverse of stuff, it can be feasible but it doesn’t make it any less sucky sometimes. Especially if it can be done to be forceful, plus it isn’t just about diversity, it’s also about gender, sexual orientation, etc. and how it still comes off goddamn stupid when forced.
I mean, I could be seen forcing some tweaks for an AU idea I’ve had for Marvel characters but I didn’t try to force it, a lot of it was just to do it because it’s an alternate reality even if it doesn’t mean it can be “right”, and I acknowledge that.
Plus I wasn’t trying to “fix” someone’s work! So there’s a huge difference there too.
It's always ironic that art "Fixers" always just redraw characters with large lips and noses, hairy arms legs and usually dumpy and unattractive. A lot of things they complain about being stereotypes when Anime does them, if not just lazily blackfacing characters and calling themselves the _saviors of entertainment._
That’s probably because those are the type of people who are so insecure about their appearance, that they think that redrawing characters into looking like orcs will brainwash society into finding those losers attractive.
Yep, what's the point in doing characters look more realistic and ugly. This is anime, characters here is supposed to be extra in all aspects. We have many anime that close to realism. Why do they don't touch them but make extra character ugly
I seen nsfw artists who make weird stuff more appealing than these freaks.
And that's saying alot.
@@silhouette9699
Because they're usually of that lens of being subversive.
Not wanting to bring politics to it, but it's imo a symptom of the crap that all that nonsense conditioned them into.
…does anyone else remember the whole ‘detumblrization’ meme?
Because they’ve basically been doing that in reverse.
I don't like race-swapping, either. But what if instead of people changing the race of a character to a show, what if they just made an awesome OC instead? That would be pretty cool! 😃
Not only is it creative, but that character would be their own separate character; with their own uniqueness. That's WAY BETTER than just making an already existing, non-black character, a black character.
Now that I think about it, that kind of sounds like how the Persona series sells the same game with extra bonus characters! 🙁
I mean, I know that no one likes it when Persona does that, but at least it's not racist. Right? 🤣
Them: Don't tell me what I can do you ixiot.
The problem with that is that such an action ultimately requires *creativity*.
That's the problem with all these art fixers, from the shittiest fan "artist" to the activists at the top of the Hollywood food chain like Lauren Hissrich that deep-sixed Netflix's Witcher. They *don't have creativity*, but they make up for it with hubris and fan-baiting.
Reject them all.
Egyptians are NOT subsaharan! doing Candice like that is DlSGUSTlNG! I dare you change my mind! if she was black from the beginning, sure, we have some minority of black people after all, and they are a part of us, however, she wasn't! and doing this to her is disrespecting Egyptians by saying that North Africans have to always be bIack or else! and that is NOT OK!
as a white person, who also happened to be middle eastern, I find that highly unappreciated! kindly, do not impose any other culture on us! we do not like that, and that's a highly ignorant and an offensive thing to do!
btw, I totally agree with all of your points in this video! these people are disrespecting EVERYONE! and they think they are on a higher moral ground why? being R@ClST against anyone is wrong! PERIOD!
This is exactly the reason why I often draw my characters with unrealistic skin colors ( Red, Green, Grey, ect.). Can't be called racist if they don't have actual races.
They'll just develop new phrases/labels in that case. A wise man can't hope to win an argument against a fool who pretends to listen.
@@ziephel-6780
A fool will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience
and this is why i prefer drawing non-humans
People will just insist someone is "Black coded"
Even in that case you aren't always safe.
Like how some people proclaim dnd is racist because the "drow", a fantasy race of dark elves with usually dark blue or dark gray skin have an evil society (Mind you, very explicitly not all of them are evil, just one specific society of theirs) and they believe it's supposed to be hate against black people??
Honestly, these people are so far off they are racist again. If you see a fantasy race of elves that live in the underground and have dark fantasy skin colors and immediately think of real black people something is wrong with you.
My favorite 'Art Fixer' story was the artist who claimed to fix one of J. Scott Campbell's iconic Mary Jane covers. This caught the attention of Campbell himself, but when he gave advice on how to correctly position the illustration ( even redrawing the art himself and later selling it) the fixer complained he's only a kid and was backed by wannabes defending them! This controversy not only raised the price of the very comic from a $65 to a whopping $120 book, but sparked more interest into Campbell's work!
@Diego Palacios paiva yep. Like a true gentleman.
Honestly I thought Campbell was a bit embarrassing. He should have just ignored it like anyone else or embraced the illustrations ridiculousness. But at least it started the tread of people posing as Mary Jane, that was hilarious
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“You go, SKINTONE!”
XD
Chad way to handle an art fixer ngl
Didn't Campbell say he used his girlfriend as a reference for that drawing? So, the pose and proportions are all legit.
I’ve seen so many “fixed” art pieces and I felt like I was the only one who thought it was bad. Changing peoples art because it’s “incorrect”? I think that’s wrong from multiple standpoints. Thank you for making this video! 💖
Art fixers doesn’t deserve the title of artists or creators. They’re just another form of plagiarizers.
10:38 last time I saw an Asian person. They don’t all have yellow skin, maybe it’s also because I don’t think or notice people’s skin color
True. I'm personally more on the yellow side (actually it's somewhere between yellow and yellow-orange), but others still fall under reds and oranges and browns. Hell us Asians can still be naturally white without any white heritage lmfao
i ave enver omce in my life seena n asian person with yellow skin. only tan and kight skin. where did yellow even come from
@@Nezumi_YasuMy big sister has a white yellowish skin.
Yes, it's a real thing, u wouldn't really notice it at a first glance unless u focus on it.
I'm tired of people "fixing" them to be a certain colour and then attacking the creators for not having diversity. Like, if you liked the character, wouldn't you like them for their personality, design, etc. and not focus solely on their race? Another thing that isn't really brought up is that in fantasy world, the people have different rules and such; not all media has to reflect the world we live in today. Also people attacking artists for not making characters "black enough" - like, lighter-skinned black people do exist.
I've seen a lot of people defending black-washing because of lack of representation, but it's hypocritical. Editing other people's work is just rude in general without permission. Let people create what they want to create. Overall, great video. I always love your stuff, keep up the good work!
Also (6:18): they literally edited/traced another person's artwork and have the audacity to put their watermark? Bruh.
True. I often draw human cartoon character from various series and race but in the same time making them odd coloured instead of blackwashing/white washing like so many people have done. Like green skinned Craig (in its cartoon he actually dark brown ) and blue Spinelli. Not for whatever agenda of course just for fun and draw them in my own style instead of tracing other art
Right! Also, it is stupid to compare the skin color of these characters with characters from a different story or real life ppl instead of characters in the same story .. Sometimes the character appears in a darker tone next to the characters from their story. It depends on the context of characters designing in their world
no because the genshin community is so toxic. artists say they're scared of drawing the darker skinned characters BECAUSE of how fast people attack them for not making their skin dark enough, despite there being some kind of skin tone regardless, which then leads to less diversity posted. it's literally having the reverse effect these people wanted in the first place
Agree. Art is freedom, we can interpret it the way we want. Creating something out of this world. Using real references in different setting with different approach also can be considered art. So, color-washing any art without permission and with malicious intent just because what they thought, isn't an art, it's destruction of property.
Ye. Seriously OC's are a thing and is basically a self insert of us. Why else there are many who have an oc or two?
I'm reminded of the time I showed my coworker a comic with one of my characters who has small eyes and does not speak English well, and she complained that it's racist to make Asians talk like that. My stupid ass jumped to correcting her with "He's Russian," and she immediately and completely seriously goes "oh that's fine then."
🤦♀️
I mean.... it's rude of her to say that... and to just assume that everyone should be able to speak perfect English if they're Asian, then turn around and act like its fine because he's Russian... It's okay that an Asian character also isn't great at English... They're still probably better at it than that coworker with any other language. I don't know if that makes sense.... sry...
Russians are asian though?!?
@@demens8977 Technically yes but most people (in the USA at least) don't recognize them as such. Including my coworker.
@@Eusong god, like, I get why US people are like that but man, thats harmful not just towards russians. (Unless your coworker is from a country that borders with russia lol)
@@demens8977 She's actually from Germany originally. Came over when she was a preteen.
That "fixed" image about Candace? I got into an argument with someone defending the art. They argued that Candace is Kush, who have incredibly dark skin. I argued that Candace is Egyptian. Their source was her name and some words by someone else, spectulating that Candace would be Kush. My argument was her clothes, as well as her shield being blessed by Bennu, an Egyptian deity, who is protrayed as a Wagtail and Heron, both of which appearing in her Skill and Burst. The person blocked me and (from what I can tell), didn't respond back.
Of course they block you when you say something that doesn't blindly agree/support them 🙄Honestly, it's a problem I have with a lot of the genshin fandom (as a huge genshin player myself). Especially with Sumeru, the fandom went crazy with the skintones of the characters. Yes, I do wish they had a bit more variation with the skin tones in the game as a whole, but you also have to remember how much cultural and historical references Genshin uses in each of their regions. When people just complain about the skin tone of the characters, it feels like they forget that skin color does not equal culture. They think that genshin characters are just caricatures or something defined solely by their skin tone, which is wrong. Each region is based off of a *bunch* of different cultures, and it's ultimately fictional, so it's okay if they take inspiration from many different real-life cultures into one region.
@@lilachrysanthemum7281 To be fair, we did argue back and forth for a bit. It wasn't until I pointed out the Egyptian stuff in her design that the person blocked me.
5:38 i live how incredibly racist this is (towards black people) and the author never even said anything about that. the art implies that there is something less sexually arousing about black women when compared to white women.
I've always believed that if someone demands representation and inclusion and throws a tantrum when they don't get it, then they shouldn't get any until they can act like an adult.
Yep
We don't want to represent juvenile people as the norm and as good. We want to represent cool people. :)
They should be teach to not throw tantrum frequently just like kid. The problem is they're stubborn adult not innocent kid
based yanfei
Woah no way! its Yanfei!! I love your work in Genshin impact!!!
Actually, "Art fixers" originated on Tumblr, the only came to Twitter during the Great Tumblr Exodus.
Drop the lore, young master. My curiosity has exceeded significantly.
@@crowsan2871 Eh, there no real deep lore, Tumblr was a cesspool of identity politics (including many forms that unheard of anywhere else, like "otherkin"), and many "artists" on the site took it upon themselves to "fix" other people's art (usually meaning either making them morbidly obese, removing all womanly features or raceswapping, sometimes all three).
Then Tumblr banned porn and it's entire userbase fled to Twitter.
Same, I missed that History class and would be glad to know it.
So did MAPS, assumedly
@@dylanmccoy3243 Eh, no, that's home grown on Twitter. I don't think the term """MAP""" had even been coined by the time of the Great Tumblr Exodus.
zeefixesart is probably the most infamous example of "art fixing"
Do people realise racism is not just towards Asian Hispanic and black poeple
It’s hate towards a race, and white is a race.
I’ve seen people who are black online say all white people are racist and as a white person I find black people with the richest skin so beautiful.
8:40 I definitely agree on this, people fix “white skin” as if our whole race is stupid. Which it isn’t true.
Reminder that genshin impact is mostly of white skin due to the fact most anime kinda styled games have white characters cause anime is from Japan. If you dont like the loss of representation then make your own OC. Like Jesus Christ.
It’s racist to actually change a characters race. “Black washing doesn’t exist”, yes. Yes it does.
If I was a character who got turned black I’d be a little offended in a way, not that I’m not black, but you don’t appreciate my race.
As a Latina artist, never have I ever drawn a character to represent my race. Just saying. Why? Because I don't need characters to look like me or "represent" me in order to relate to a character. All of my favorite characters are White guys, and most of the characters I draw are either White or a nonexistent race.
I thought I was the only one because my mom keeps saying I should but I just like drawing other cultures because I think they are pretty-
@@thelying2594 Well you aren't alone. I just get ideas in mind for characters I want and draw them, their race or whatever is irrelevant to me. If you have an Insta or anything I'd be more than happy to follow a fellow artist.
@@ObnoxiousFeline omg please I love meetings new artists!! I haven't posted on mine yet tho-
I still don't understand why we should be "proud of being Latino"
@@everyonesfavoritesejong The one reason I'd say I'm "proud" is because it means my family is filled with great cooks lol.
Telling Japanese artists to stop sexualizing characters is like telling Ozzy Osbourne to stop drinking.
Good luck with that.
Telling Ozzy Osbourne to stop drinking is like telling Amy Schumer to be a better comedian.
It's like telling technology companies to not overprice their products, gl hf with it
Telling Japanese artists to stop lewding their characters is like telling EDP445 not to groom/sexually assault children
I thought Ozzy Osbourne wasn’t drinking anymore?
Telling Japanese artists to stop sexualizing characters and telling Ozzy Osbourne to stop drinking is like telling Bill Cosby to stop raping women...
Man, I really don't want to be seen as "that guy", but like... I agree with your takes on art "fixers" and the whole act of it, but at 5:02, you really didn't need to say "retarded" for that, man. I know most people will probably just look at this comment and laugh, thinking I'm too sensitive or it's not really a slur, but I've had that word thrown at me by peers, family, and superiors my whole life as punishment for some of my difficulties with both ADHD and ASD, as well as some simple mistakes. That word, for a lot of people, is something they grow up with people close to them using to bash and berate them or what they have and becomes the word that says "you're lesser, you're invalid, you anger me", especially with its connotations to having any kind of disorder that affects processing or social skills. Just really brings up a lot of awful feelings and memories for a lot of people, just like when someone says "faggot".
I'm not trying to say "shame on you, you should feel bad, how dare you" by saying all this, I just ask that next time you just use a different word. Idiotic, moronic, brainless, asinine, vapid, meaningless, shit-brained, repugnant, abhorrent, nauseating, loathsome, detestable, vile, reprehensible, appalling, insufferable. There's all these and so many other words that aren't commonly used to berate and punish certain groups of people. And before anyone acts like it's a bending over backwards request I'm making, it's literally just "avoid this one word." I mean, from what I know, there's only 5 or 6 words total in English to avoid using, and most people always avoid one and usually avoid 4 of them without making an effort.
I'm autistic, and I say he gets a pass. Those "fixers" are actually more retarded than me. 😂
Если перекрасить белого в чёрного это "fixed", а наоборот это "расизм" 🤔 неужели люди, которые так думают, действительно не осознают проблематичность такого мышления? Мне интересно: что у них в головах??
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Я понимаю, создавать своих персонажей, исходя из своих учреждений, но переделывать уже имеющихся💀💀💀
В чем прикол
@@Hadaraii есть куча крутых чёрных персонажей. Но люди рисуют не их, а приебываются к другим персонажам с белой кожей. Гении
@@gradient2385 людям делать видимо нечего кроме как приебываться
Ну все, ребят, не дай бог ты будешь белым😯
@@gradient2385 ДА,ДА ,ДА в геншине приебывается к инадзумцам и вот это по моему самый странный Поинт в этой ситуации потому что в инадзуме другая угнетаема расизмом раса-азиаты и вы перекрашиваете одну угнетаемую группу в другую и говорите что это...репрезентация и исправление расисткого говна?типо ...вы только что сказали что это не расизм потому что персонаж не темнокожий ....
9:21 I never really thought Fred was dumb. He's like the 2nd smartest out of the gang right after Velma. His traps sometimes work, he's really inventive, resourceful, and also he always adding new features to the Mystery Machine.
He's moreso been gradually dumbed-down over the years. His traps became a fixation where he can basically tunnel-vision how whatever plan is going to work, when likely a simpler solution will suffice. There's the annoying will-they-won't-they with Daphne that gets laid on REALLY thick in some movies... aaaaand some movies/shows give him this unhealthy "guy"-like fixation on cars, more specifically taking care of the Mystery Machine.
It's a flanderization that's often in tandem with the writers wanting to make Daphne a girlboss with her fighting skills and independance, I think.
So yeah, he comes off a lot more dumb and himbo-like in recent years.
@@HexManiacQuinn ok, but that doesn't explain why he's considered "the dumb one" or "the dumbest" in the group. Like Shaggy and Scooby are near borderline retarded, Scooby can somewhat excused because he's a dog.
Plus he usually is seen as the leader of Mystery Inc. on top of that so there’s no way Fred is totally dumb in much Scooby-Doo! media.
He's a soft hunk, also maybe more naive than dumb. That could be why.
I love how that art fixer who "fixed" that scooby doo art straight up slapped their own signature on there too
Saw that shit as well man that gets my blood boiling
My little sister has been doing this a lot for the past two years of anime characters and keeps showing them to me. It’s just really annoying
Try to explain to her that it’s not right
@@EvelinDagger yeah she won’t really listen and just joke about it
@@stickthelanding4785 alr get the sandle out it hurts the most on the back of the head.
As an asian man, I nominee myself to play black panther
People that spend their life “fixing” art are often the miserable and insufferable people to be around. Can’t remember how many times I’ve seen these people say they finally felt “represented” after what was basically committing vandalism on someone else’s work!
Also the fact that alot of art “fixers” go and “fix” official art (e.g. Genshin) because ‘its okay’ , but all of sudden “fixing” a twitter/insta/ect. artist’s art is “off limits and disrespectful to the original artist” Ive seen it so many times
I'm open to interpreting art in a unique way or a different style. When people say " I'm fixing art" that's when it quickly becomes insulting. All these "Fixers" are stroking their egos and making the originals look even Better!
And then you got all the "reimaginations". Not the actual cool ones done for the sake of actually looking at what the character would look like if they originated from another culture for example, but the ones where a character is simply made black for the sake of it (Velma from the animated Velma show). Reimagination my ass, they made her skin darker and changed nothing else about the actual character.
“You can’t ruin the original… but I’ll be entertained watching you try… GO OFF, THEN.”
-ecruostnoF
Notice how nobody on TikTok is fixing them and it’s all on Twitter
Reminds me of an artist on tumblr that got bullied to the point of attempting suicide due to their art by the Steven Universe fandom. There were news articles about it too.
Can we start redrawing their avatars and tell them we fixed it?
My sister jumped on the Candace was whitewashed train, too. I actually took a few minutes to google her origins and her name made sense (Candace was a name passed down to multiple queens apparently). I hate this idea that art needs to be “fixed”, especially for political reasons, it’s like telling an artist that their work is only acceptable if it aligns with the fixer’s ideals.
This kind of stuff is pretty common in the Cookie Run fandom, from race all the way to gender identity.
Candace isnt even a name, its a title. GI Candace was appearently based on a queen who was blind in one eye, causing it to be lighter or so ive been told from other yt comments
@@Sample-Text. Yeah, I remember seeing that it was used as a title. I was told her eyes are are a reference to the god Horus.
God I love cookie run by itself but I will never personally engage with the fandom.
@@Sample-Text. Exactly, that's what I keep telling people lol. Not to mention just because it's inspired or a reference doesn't mean it has to be a 1 to 1 recreation, just look at stigmata girls being named after important figures same with FGO, SMT/Persona demons, and anime like Naruto with the Shinto gods
Current Candace is so pretty though- Her skintone not only suits her story but her theme I wish people would take they artist thoughts into account and only criticize on **actual** art issues
4:40 funnily enough the original drawing was a commission drawing of a real person
Oh god that makes it so much worse
To twitter, real people do not exist. Must change skin color. Skin color only important 🪦🪦🪦🗿🗿🗿
Thank you so much for addressing this problem, it really bugs me seeing art from creators I like messed up. It's disrespectful.
1:07 they’re an art fixer and AND Velma fan? That’s probably the most defective combination of traits as an artist.
I remember when someone drew a redesign of some She Ra characters like Bow and Princess Mermista and the artist got backlash from stans of the She Ra reboot for making them white without realizing that it’s supposed to be more based on the original who were white instead of the reboot in which they were race swapped.
Wait they were white in the original?
I must’ve misremembered it.
@@Violet217 most of were. That's one of the reasons I dislike the reboot they race swapped the characters instead of making any new ones. Also they made bow black but he was better as a red head.
@@SarcasticAriel yeah, i can understand why people wouldn't like the reboot 4 that. i personally think that she-ra did a pretty good job when it came 2 race swapping, cause they still managed 2 pull off a good show by the end of the day
@@Violet217 yeah most of em were, I can confirm as I have the original in dvd
@@eggstertries I disagree I didn't think the show was good at all even putting the race swapping to the side. I still found it be be poorly written & animated. I am that you were able to enjoy it & can disagree with me in a casual way though.
In my opinion, stuff like Blacktober is a huge missing opportunity.
Like, it could be just about black artists sharing their projects and ocs, but no, let's make a month dedicated to projecting and blackwashing characters.
Why? Just why?
YES it’s such a missed opportunity! It just looks like they’re doing what a lot of companies are doing right now with media: race swapping already established characters because they cannot: a) come up with an original story with original poc characters, or b)doing it because it’s trendy race swapping for inclusivity 🥲 like I would love to see more works like Yasuke and other stories written by poc artists!
@@J0M1E8X It would be awesome. I would love to read/watch new stories, especially those based on less known cultures!
It's a shame that lazyness is becoming the default nowadays.
I've never done Blacktober before but I'm very tempted to do it this way, just posting art of my OCs Daisy, Reginald and Alvin, and drawing other black characters I really like (such as the black Miis like Emma and Sakura; Cuba from Hetalia, Jackie from Cyberchase, Dr. Sweet from Atlantis and Tiana from The Princess and the Frog; and also humanizing some non-human characters as black humans, such as Spencer from Chipspeech or Jackson Storm from Cars 3.)
I just subscribed to FUCHIA BEACH'S channel and she literally tells Blacktober originally was about that; black artists sharing their projects, OCs and fanarts of already existing black characters. That changed because of one Final Fantasy AU fanart.
Thank you for putting it in proper words!! i've been trying to formulate it for months
Honestly, I enjoy seeing black versions of white characters. It opens up a new perspective on that character to me which I find refreshing. My problem with it is the political nuance and "fixing" the art. As an artist, that makes me nauseous.
my take is, if you like black versions of white characters, then redraw them from scratch in that race, instead of a lazy black recolour and calling it ''fixed''. that's the issue with art fixers, they don't have the talent to do that, but have the audacity to say they ''fixed'' someone else's art.
yeah i just think it's a fun thing
yeah, i’ve seen some edits that actually looked cute. i actually like the idea of recoloring a character for a pfp my problem with this stuff is the entitlement
4:54
What's ironic about that one is that SONIC has been played more times by a black guy than Knuckles has.
"Oh, but he is a part of a tribe. A famous black person recently voiced him. Uh... They play rap music for his background music in the Adventure games. Ummm... Uh. Oh! His quills hang like dreads!" Or some crap like that to justify Knuckles being black if he were a human.
Also knucles is Brown.
@@JustinB6699 those examples people list make me raise an eyebrow. (Also Scott Dreier is his best Voice)
@@lazwardazure716 I agree. If you told me to imagine Knuckles talking, I would hear Scott Dreier’s voice in my mind.
Bro is red@@gustavomartins364
oh trust me, i've been **waiting** for the Velma tear down
Also, i feel the need to add in case people didn't know: the og artist responded to this art fixing simply saying they forgot to erase Scooby-doo 😂
He’ll appear in the Velma show…
He’s just… out getting milk and cigarettes…
HE’LL BE BACK, HE TOLD ME HE WOULD BE!!
not even related to the topic but that was the smoothest sponser placement iv ever seen
Candace black washing feels so wrong. She is Egyptian/Arabian-coded not African-coded.
But I wish there were Indian codes characters in Sumeru forest part. That would have been cool
From what I’ve heard about the Velma show, apparently Fred is gonna be a “white supremacist,” Daphne is gonna be like having this story in which she’s pissed at Fred for not willing to have sex with her or some shit, and Shaggy is gonna be a whole in the hood stereotype. Like bruh, the whole Daphne craving sex shit is pretty obvious what Mady Kaling would do due to the recent work she made is clearly “Sex lives of college girls.” And the fact that Shaggy is gonna have the whole in the hood stereotype is just offensive especially the fact he’s black in “Velma.” I’m pretty disappointed that people are only bringing diversity in a show, but then make the characters who are meant to represent diversity be just stereotypes as personalities, Q-Force and presumably Velma are two perfect examples about that sort of thing which is sad. I wanna see representation in media that doesn’t give the characters shitty stereotypes, but make them relatable and charming characters that would help others feel represented in media.
Wow the way to ruin many people childhoods
@@Pastasmoker Honestly, Scooby Doo has been a part of my childhood and it’s sad to see how this show is just like being the typical “bottom of the barrel adult cartoons.” I honestly don’t care about the raceswap as long as they don’t make the characters have racial stereotypes and now here we are. The characters are racial stereotypes. Damn sad
I just wanna point something out about the genshin example:
Genshin is a game highly regulated by the Chinese government. Having tanned characters suck as Kayea or the Sumeru desert people and a black Asian like Xinyan was already a risk- not too sure on laws there, but they tried to ban a male character for being feminine. I doubt they’d want any minorities in that. Hoyoverse even moved its publishing company to Cognosphere (a company from Singapore, I believe) just to try decrease these restrictions. They’re doing all they can already, people have no right to devalue their artist team.
Literally Hoyoverse is trying yet idiots on tiktok and Pinterest still think this game is “racist”
I think that it's not about government :) it's more because of the audience and beauty standards (like really white skin)
I agree with what you’re trying to say, however the use of slurs was a little excessive
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You’re so angry in this and I love it
We need more people like BlackLightJack.
Absolutely agree with you
So as zane does not eat rain
I also agree 👍
let's not forget that in the case of Scooby doo, the girl actually put her fucking signature on the drawing, as if SHE drew the original artwork, I know it's small but it really pissed me off
Im so happy somone actually pointed this out bc i was scared to day anything
While I am a Black woman artist, I see these art “fixes” as anti-White, anti-female and (my personal disgust) anti-Japanese. Such blatant disrespect and hate! ⭐️🔥
This whole art fixers thing just reminds me of that controversy in the Steven Universe fandom a few years back. Yeah, you remember that one! Where a fan artist drew Rose Quartz a little skinner and then they got bullied to the point of almost committing suicide. This whole thing makes me sick just as much as it annoys the ever loving sh*t out of me! 😠😠😠
I’ll never understand why some people react so viscerally when a fictional character is drawn a certain way. The worst I’d do is say “this is cursed” or “I hate it,” but even that’s not in a 100% serious manner.
@@camarokidbb4347 Yeah. It's like, do they have so little going on in their lives that they feel the need to take some random fan artist's work and change it to suit them? Those are the kind of people I want to shout "get a life" at because if they are getting so offended that some random fan artist drew a fictional character not how they like, even though they likely don't even know them, then they need to go outside and touch some grass!
@@camarokidbb4347 because they blame rapes on that. My sister is one of them and she is so paranoid that she couldn’t leave her house without having someone that looks like Robert Strong accompanimg her.
@@DeadlyAlienInvader They blame rapes on “problematic” art pieces… Here I go thinking these narcissistic SJWs had any sane reason to do anything they do.
@@camarokidbb4347 well, to be fair, there are pathetic coomers who got so obsessed with pornographying(is that a word?)cartoons that they did………….questionable things. Wasn’t Chris Chan one of them? And then again, just because a character isn’t sexually appealing, that doesn’t mean they’re safe from rule 34! For example, do you know Kamala Khan? She’s like one of the most politically correct characters out there, like the SJWs’ wet dream of a superhero, and yet, I remember accidently stumbling upon a fan drawing of her……………..I don’t want to talk about it.
Finally!!! Someone who actually addresses it!! As someone in the genshin community it always bugged me when people blackwashed characters and were butthurt when ppl pointed it out. If you want more rep go somewhere else, don't do the same thing you see as bad (blackwashing is real and it's the same as whitewashing y'all)
I couldn’t agree more.
I also find It just so annoying cause they’re saying “this is the skin color I IMAGINE (group of people) to always have and if you disagree your racist” and it’s just annoying to me.
EXACTLY, with Sumeru it has literally blown off my mind because this MF trully believe south asians and middle eastern people are all stereotypical african level of skin color!
The light skinned characters are based on Persia meanwhile the tan ones are Egyptian, which if you search are literally olive tan skin tone.
This is the exact thing that happened to Encanto where twitter believed us hispanic people must 100% be dark skinned when being hispanic isn't a race but a culture
@@ItsTanuki0_Clock I never knew it happened with Encanto. These people seriously need to touch grass.
there rhis one IG artist that keeps blackwashing anime/game characters from Asian country and they also think blackwashing doesn't exist.It irritate me how insensitive they are
Whitewashing is the erasure of culture and history, hence the ‘washing’ part of whitewashing!
Blackwashing was created because people wanted to compare the two when whitewashing has more harmful history to actual real life people
I also hate how people take some characters who do not have canonical race and tell that they are black and harras people who headcanon them differently. Like of course there is nothing wrong with headcanoning characters who have no race however you want but claiming that they can be only one race is weird. (Im now talking about homestuck mostly. When people in comments hate on you because you draw white Dave or Dirk or human Gamzee)
Like, just fuck off the artists they do not owe you anything unless they are erasing canonicaly black characters.
Wasnt dave literally albino and thats why he had red eyes? (Its been a long time since ive thought about homestuck)
One thing I really dislike about this I’m realizing is how often it happens to Japanese anime characters. And the way it happens
I don’t know how to describe it but Like these people act like they’re blackwashing a white person so it’s ok. But the thing is, that character was never even white to begin with. They’re Asian. They may have pale skin due to East Asian beauty standards but that doesn’t make them white. They’re not Caucasian.
Maybe I’m wrong and this isn’t the mindset when people do this but it severely feels like art fixers think they’re darkening the skin of a white person in the majority.
Like it’s like
Pale anime character = white person to them?
When really they’re “fixing” a character of a racial minority already. It just feels like Asian erasure? Probably not the best way to word it but still.
It's one thing to draw your own interpretation of a fictional character (drawing a character differently than how they're portrayed canonically). It's another to STEAL someone else's artwork, trace over it, and then chastise that artist for not drawing that character the way you interpret them.
FINALLY he made a video on these piles of shit. I remember when someone "fixed" my art on discord by making my character's skin white because she was based off of Japanese attributes. 😞
That’s awful! I’m so sorry that happened to you! Your art didn’t need fixing!
Bruh
Oh my, Im so sorry what happened 🙁
The transition to the Gaomon advertising was so smooth 😂 good one
"I fixed yours because i don't have the skills to improve mine past stereotypes"
6:18 so I'm told that this is actually quite racist since Shaggy was supposed to be an anti-stereotype of the age as apparently black people were treated as goofball idiots easily spooked by ghosts. Shaggy being white was supposed to break that mold...so yeah the "fixers is just reviving a 50 year old racist caricature in the name of inclusivity.
That just makes Shaggy -more powerful- even better.
The irony here is so strong that I could plate a bulldozer in it, and destroy houses and cars if I wanted to
Honestly, people who fixate this much on skin color should be kept far, far away from any topics concerning race - or any substantive topics at all, for that matter.
The only youtuber i can agree with since he does not hold back punches
The thing that gets me with this is just that if you really wanted to make a difference,, you could. Instead of white or black or whatever changing an already created character,, you could make your own inclusive cast. Draw your own gang of misfits, not someone else’s. It’s easy, fun, and a good learning experience. You don’t have to include one community by shoving out another, it’s as simple as drawing sone stick figures yourself.
Back in the day someone made a black version of Goku called Da Black Goku and it was a what if. I found it fun.
Nowadays I hate these fixers who don't remember other cultures exist. Uzaki-Chan is the biggest one
That said .. Fro-ku is chilling in a parody universe rap battling against Young Frodoriya with All Black on the track.
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Honestly, a lot of the bs people play trying to "fix" issues wouldn't at all be a problem if they weren't broadcasting it as "fixing". It's the blatantly plagiarized pieces with a slight pallette swap on the skin tone and patronizing exchange belittling the original artist.
@@bartofii Afrodoriya could probably beat Froku (GONE WRONG)
But that would be along the lines of cosplay where people can dress up as any character regardless of race or skin colour. You even get men dressed as women characters which usually looks hilarious, but it is fun. I often make up my own characters and have them interact with established characters as it comes naturally (writing a coherent plot is often harder) but it is done because we like the characters. Even if a film is boring, I might find the characters themselves interesting.
These so-called art fixers are different as they are obsessed with race and will bully people into thinking like them and are more likely to assault people based on differences than the people, they put their prejudices on.
As for the live-action Disney remakes, they have not been that good regardless of who they cast.
Pinocchio was decent but they ended it with them on an island with no boat and it seemed less magical. Replacing cigars and alcohol with soda made no sense as those items represented the corruption of youth. They basically censored an important part of the film which is the message of morals. Obviously drinking a bit of alcohol is not going to kill you but it represents adulthood in a way and children should be children. Childhood should be something to look back on as happy and pure. With Black Panther 2, any criticisms of Namor racechanging gets shutdown with accusiations of racism. The director bseems to engage with that behaviouras well. Chadwick seemed like decent fellow and not race bound like this co-workers.
She certainly is the biggest one 😏
Same I remember someone making a comic of if Naruto was taking place in Africa, it was a really funny read
Art fixer giving Daphne squinty eyes and literal yellow skin (which was used as an Asian stereotype way back in the 1930s or earlier): I'm progressive!
The worst kind of racist is the one who thinks their actions are anti-racist
The person who ‘fixed’ the scoopy doo art also put their signature
If someone “fixed” my art… I might commit a crime.. my characters don’t need to be fixed!
It's to a point where social media is hell but for artist.
Art "fuckers" should be terminated bruh.
I made a gift for a guy once, like a drawing for him because he was looking for suggestions on how to improve his fursona and I was like “mind if I take a crack at it and draw something up?” He said to go for it so I did. Finished the drawing, then he was like “it doesn’t really look like (the animal) kinda like a hybrid instead, can you change a few things?” I was like 👍 because I was out of practice from drawing and he was a pretty nice dude so I just took his suggestions and tried to work with them, I was still having fun with the drawing at that point, but then it kept going.
Suggestion after suggestion, edit after edit, to the point that I didn’t like what I made anymore. He even showed me screenshots of his friends “opinions” of my art. I know I’m not a professional or anything, I never claimed to be. I even told him that much, I haven’t drawn anything in months and haven’t been finding things I used to enjoy enjoyable, but you know I still worked pretty hard on it. I didn’t need to see people I didn’t know tear it apart like that.
It really just kinda put a thorn in my heart, you know? I ended up getting sick at some point and after I recovered I left the discord and removed him as my friend, pretty much ghosting him because I’m a coward. I noticed he started using someone else’s art for his pfp anyways so my plan is just to try and forget about it, probably won’t be making anymore art anytime soon tho :/
That’s awful! I’m sorry that happened to you!
I hope you can find a new love for art someday. That it will bring you joy, without any one needing to give their opinion on it.
Having a group of people do something like that to you, and your art, is so disrespectful.
Art should be for you. It can be a very personal thing. I hope you are able to enjoy it again.
No matter where you are in your art journey, it’s never too late to come back!
Regardless, I hope you find something that will bring you joy, even if it isn’t art. Have a wonderful rest of your day!
@@legendarybubbles4567 Hey thanks dude! I appreciate the kind words 😊
I used to dream big with thoughts of animation flooding my brain, I gave up on that. Something that does seem tangible though is becoming a vtuber, I’ve been thinking of doing that for a while, but can never find the motivation to come up with a new design after I ditched my old one a long while back
Hopefully I’ll get to it one of these days
You have a good rest of your day as well! 👋
@@mintymouths I’m a bit late to the reply, but, that’s very relatable.
I personally have wanted to become an animator myself, so, I definitely feel you on that.
If you ever decide to become a V-Tuber, that would be awesome! I’m sure you would be great!
I’ve been getting into the community myself lately, and it just seems very fun! A great way to get past showing my face lol
If you ever decide to pursue it, let me know! I’ll be rooting for you! (Though no pressure! Just do what makes you happy!)
I'm sorry you met that kind of guy as your friend,he literally didn't respect you at all which is very sad
If anyone tries to make art for me,I would treasure it and showering the person with love,I never understood how can someone be so judgemental
@@random_eli_fan3767 Ha well, he was a pretty nice guy, at least acting nice to me anyway. That’s why I went along with it for so long, but when he started showing me the screenshots of what his friends said it seemed more of indirectly telling me what he actually thought. You know like “These aren’t MY words, but I gotta show you what THIS guy had to say” yeah?
Cowards find cowards I guess, I’ve never had much luck with making friends online
ngl ive never seen someone speak their mind like u bro, props
I thought I was the only one who thought this, so glad I'm not alone.
I’m pretty upset with people who think they’re fixing a character just cause they made the skin darker. I honestly think it’s just offensive, if we look at Genshin impact there used to be only 2 dark skinned characters(which personally I didn’t care at the time since I just wanted to play the game) some people and “art fixers” were mad that Xingyan and kaeya’s(those were the two dark skinned characters) skin wasn’t dark enough, EVEN THOUGH irl black peoples skin actually looks like that. Ever since the release of sumeru, hoyoverse added more dark skinned characters Like cyno, dehya, Candace, and some npc’s too. But NOPE there are still some “art fixers” making the skin color darker than the og design because I guess in there eyes, black peoples skin are always meant to be really dark. They’re not fixing anything, they’re literally being offensive and it takes the fun out of art>:/ art is about creativity and having fun not whatever the f!ck this art fixing is on twitter. If these people want darker skin on Genshin characters, then they should make an oc instead like I’m planning to do(basically I’m making myself into a Genshin character).
It’s more offensive to black people tbh
@@cryaboutit7499 I know,I was just stating out how “art fixers” annoy me.
@@cryaboutit7499 I'd say it's equally offensive to whites and blacks. Whites are treated like nobody wants them anymore, blacks are treated like a token for easy good reputation.
I feel like those fans intentionally forget Natlan exists where the Nation is full of dark skinned characters.
@@asuramaru815although that’s good, I have a Feeling that people are still gonna have something to complain about.
That thumbnail of Candice from Genshin surprised me....for about 5 seconds and then I remembered that "art fixers" are as self righteous as you can get.
A lot of people were upset that characters in Sumeru, which is the newest playable nation in Genshin based on Egypt and the Middle East, were white. Even though A. It is a fictional world that doesn't need to he exactly like ours, heck they have guys throwing phoenix's and a girl with a chilli munching ex god panda. And B. You could make an argument that Sumeru is divided into two areas, the jungle area, where white characters like Collei, Tighnari and Nilou reside and the desert area, where darker or tanned skin characters like Candice, Cyno and Dehya live. Because Cyno and Co live in rhe desert with minor protection from the sun it makes sense for them at least to have darker skin tones, which they clearly do. Meanwhile the forest area has a lot of shade and likely rain, so it's less likely for Tighnari or Collei to have prolonged exposure to sunlight, so even in the universe of Genshin, it still makes sense for people from the same nation to have different skin tones when the geography is different. Which is also why the prior nations are more homogeneous as they have consistent weather conditions across the land, with few exceptions and even those exceptions wouldn't necessarily force the developers to alter the skin tones.
What's even funnier is that even if Sumeru is based on people from the middle East,people from there aren't even as black as blackwashers make them out to be.Like people from the middle East don't have the melanin of an African,yet for people who want the so called represantaion,they are whitewashed.So then they go out of their way to blackwash Candace,Cyno etc,erasing their culture.Its hilarious and hypocritical.
@@Serbian3 exactly, I'd also say that none of Genshin's regions are based on Africa, Monstadt is Germany or Central Europe, Liyue is China, Inazuma is Japan, Snezhnaya is Russia, Fontaine is France and Natlan is South America. And Kan'ereah isn't based on any existing nation or country. So again it doesn't make sense for those places to have black characters. I just like how they not only ignore the actually origins of the regions, but the existence of Kaeya and Xinyan who are both non white characters. But it doesn't matter if their not white because then their ethnicities are not oppressed enough. And Kaeya, Xinyan, Cyno and Candice all have personalities that have nothing to do with their race as a matter of fact, no one in game talks about it, because it doesn't matter
the thing with candace, is mihoyo took a black darskin godesss from sudan and whitewashed her
@@thatonerazormain8223 what?
@@krnatsu candace. the genshin character is based of a black woman from sudan
Jack when he talks about his sponsor for a video sounds like the ads on tv
The ZeeFixesArt image jumpscared me, was not expecting them to pop up again when i wasn't looking
11:54 funnily enough, considering both her name and username in Twitter, she is Brazilian (saying this as a Brazilian myself). What's is funny is that Brazil isn't a first world country, so for her to be bothering herself with such petty bullshits means that she is obviously chronically online.
Plus, she also put her watermark on this artist artwork 🤦
She should be sent to Brazi- wait a minute…
To be honest.I'm alroght with a race swapoed character as lomg as it"s a headcanon. It gets wrong if said raceswapped character is called 'fixed' or better than the original
I full heartedly agree also the same could be said for the gender and sexuality of characters been different from canon if it's just a headcanon.
My goodness that sponsorship was amazing
I’m a white artist, and I don’t have any black characters. I want diversity in my characters, but I don’t want to offend anyone in some way.
Can always reference real people you're trying to convey.
Besides it's more often white people complaining if it's not actually offensive
im mexican and i hv a kinda fear of doing Very stereotypical Mexican characters xd Especially when it comes to charros and tacos, I love them and every time I can, I make a version like that of a character that I like.
Nah, bro make any character if any ethenicity you want. It'd be funny to see the amount of wokies raging at you for making a characters if different races despite not in any way disrespecting the ethinicity and actually making them accurate.
Cant believe Jack cares about Brazil, in our uprising he will be spared
I'm so tired of the bolsominions, and the artist "fixer" is Brazillian, we need a lot of help
as a black person, I hate it when people black wash characters. I MEAN LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO MAH BOI SHAGGY
The fact that some delulus think they are even ALLOWED to "fix" someone else's art. The nerve...Excuse me, but the only person who can fix my art is ME. If you dare touch my art - you're vandalizing it.
*shakes head* any time I ever heard phrase "art fixer" it was always with thought of someone given permission to help another person with a style, design, etc that the person struggles with. i.e. i just got into charcoal drawings and asked another art student to help me with making one of the character portraits better defined in the face as I never done geishas before, let alone how to translate that but still keep normal face highlights, shadows etc without being too washed out or overshaded. or with clothing details.
Well, also someone casually, or personally asked, to redesign characters to better fit era they are supposedly to be based in. I say thinking of people making people look like would kinda be in regency period instead of renaissance period with the branch break offs depending on the occasion said person is going to-ball, morning stroll, etc. Using that example as been watching a lot of seamstresses with super in depth knowledge for their fields, and what they lack, they bring in people with more info to both teach them and others. I would have used different culture and periods of differences if was more versed to do so. So, this area of art fixing would be acceptable if was done to educate in non-negative way so other artist can use as a base of that period.
But this... I have no words. I am just flabbergasted to see such toxicity be "okay" like this (i mean on twitter or anywhere else). *rolls her eyes* as person that grew up on scooby-doo originals, they had diversity in show even with the friend group being "all white". I agree that this is nothing but racist and leaves a foul taste in mouth. It is even worse when original artist made homage in such lovely and innocent way only for it to be thrown back at them for something as ridiculous as this. Hope this "trend" dies out hard and fast.