Super Bell Subway, N64 Ranbow Road, Toad Harbor, Mario Kart Stadium, and Toad Turnpike all take place in TOAD CITY, this confirmed by the map seen in the subway.
That means that Melody Motorway (Music Park) and Yoshi Valley aren’t very far from Toad City as trains run to and from these location quite quickly, as shown on the timetables
Would moonview highway also be in toad city? Also, I’m unsure if mushroom city and mushroom bridge are part of a different city altogether or just another borough of toad city.
7:30 I know it's hardly noticeable, but Electrodrome isn't just one nightclub but rather an entire city. You can see numerous buildings surrounding you and there is also no ceiling, just a nightsky with the visible moon. It may be true that Electrodrome is a part of Neo Bowser City though
@@algotkristoffersson15nonetheless if paired with the map that was made in the other video, it could provide more insight. Wouldn’t go as far as to call that “confirmed canonically” though.
two stops could be 500 feet apart and the next two could be 75 miles and passing below other locations. difficult to actually get any info out of a subway map
small correction but electrodrome actually takes place outside the club's exterior! you can tell because you can see the moon and buildings in certain parts of the map
Interesting video! Something I never gave much thought to but definitely neat to think about. One thing to note: I am very surprised you so quickly dismissed the Wario-Water Park connection. While it may seem improbable or strange, Water Park is definitely a Wario-themed course, at least to an extent. Someone else already mentioned the big W logo as bearing Wario's mustache, but there is also an attraction called "Waluigi Sea bed" to the left of the starting area. You can see it if you pause the video at around 1:52. As for Thwomp Ruins, all that comes to mind for me is Whomp's Domino Ruins from Super Mario Party. Not sure if Sweet Sweet Canyon is outside of the Mario world, but it looks like some kind of joint effort between Peach and Daisy, based on the decorations/logos and such. And if you're going to make connection to Super Mario Galaxy, maybe Cloudtop Cruise is set in Gusty Garden Galaxy? The theming and music seem to reference it heavily.
The possibility of Dragon Driftway taking place in the Chai Kingdom is actually really exciting. But speaking of Sarasaland, Shyguy falls could take place in the Easton Kingdom as the 2nd level and parts of the 3rd heavily feature waterfalls and caves within rocky locations, and based on the cover art of the game, would be the mountains. Plus, Daisy and shyguys have this sort of weird connection to each other
Sunshine airport isn't exactly on Isle Delfino, but instead is the airport that took Mario, Peach, Toadsworth and some Toads to it. Also, the Koopa Beach in the background suggest it is nearby the N64 track (and maybe even the SNES Koopa Beaches)
I don't see why there'd be a Shine Sprite themed airport in the Mushroom Kingdom. I just think it's in Ilse Delphino and it has been updated since Mario Sunshine.
For the F-Zero universe, FZ GP Legend actually reveals that Mute City is New York in the future. So that one is an AU of a real-life location! FZGPL also suggests Big Blue is its own one of several planets that appeared at some point near Earth.
My theory for Wild Woods was somewhere near the Somnom woods from Mario & Luigi Dream Team. There's no definitive proof or anything, but I get the same general vibe from the two locations.
Ah ye!!! I love Mario kart for this! I used to be much more active in a subreddit called "Marioverse" and there was a lotta discussion about this stuff! Also, for Sunshine Airport, you can see the Rock from the old N64 Koopa... Beach? Koopa Circuit? So, I always assume that it is on or around the Turtle shaped island we see to the east of Isle Delfino?
It's N64 Koopa Troopa Beach, and yeah, said Koopa rock can be clearly seen in the background at 5:48. Although I don't think the island itself is an exact match from the one in Mario Kart 64, judging by the shape, lack of stone walls, and abundance of grass. Maybe they got the same stone carver that did the statue in N64 Koopa Troopa Beach to make a replica on another island.
I'm pretty sure Miyamoto confirmed something to this effect. Basically, every Mario game is a play put on by the cast of characters. It explains why Mario and Bowser will do kart racing and tennis and all that other stuff together.
Now this is the type of world building I like to think about when it comes to the Mario Series. It makes these tracks feel more lived than just random locations floating in an aimless abyss
i would agree, were it not for the scarcity (if not outright non-existence) of mushroom/koopa kingdom enemies in dk games. it would be very strange for the dk part of the world to have one part with tons of mario enemies and then have the rest of the area feature none at all
Thank you for making this video. When it first came out, it inspired me to start a project where I cartograph the entirety of the Mario universe, and I’ve had a blast doing it.
I think water park is in Wario city from Super sluggers since Nokis can be in both and the W is similar enough that they could be trying to use the Wario w but couldn’t get the rights
13:04 while I agree that this map is completely unreliable, at least we can learn 1 thing from this, Sweet Sweet Canyon is set on Earth. And with that in mind (and the fact it's close to Bone Dry Dunes, but again, this is unreliable), I would set the course in Layer Cake Desert from nsmbU
Not necessarily. Subway maps show how the different train lines connect. Not literal locations. And the train might pass through a warp pipe to get between those locations.
This doesn't really confirm nor deny anything but it's worth noting that Sweet Sweet Canyon is implied to be a creation of Peach and Daisy, since their Royal Patisserie logo is seen all over the track, a giant crown with both their emblems surrounding it is seen on top of the giant cake in the middle of the track, the spectator stands where the gingerbread men are seen are actually bakery packaging and the ocean is made with huge bottles of Princess Orange soda (take a guess who that's made by). I just find the idea that the princesses made a giant desert canyon out of baked goods to be really funny (as an Adventure Time fan though, can't say this is an entirely foreign concept to me)
3:30 Hey, I wonder if Thwomp Ruins is from Thwomp Volcano in Mario and Luigi Partners in Time? That would be so cool, and the only place I could think of! Love these location videos man keep it up.
Shy Guy Falls might be set on Subcon. Worlds 1, 3 and 5 look similar enough. And even Wild Woods might be there too, considering we have giant trees in 5-3 .
Exactly my thoughts. When I saw big cliffs with straight falling waterfalls I immediately thought SMB2 1-1. Also because it's where you first meet Shyguys
Probably on surrounding islands - Isle Delfino is explored in its entirety in Super Mario Sunshine and there’s absolutely no space for any of those tracks on the island.
When you brought up sweet sweet canyon, I immediately thought of the southeastern island of the petal isles from SMBW. Very dessert themed, has distant mountains, and the other level on the island has what appears to be honey, but we could say it’s orange juice (the thickness could be from sugar, since if you’ve spilled fruit juice or other sugary liquids on the floor, it does tend to stick and become very hard to remove)
Oooh I love the concept for this video so much! It'd be even more satisfying to mark them down on a Mario world map, I'd love to see that map develop with more and more pins over multiple videos. I know there isn't a reliable map of the mario world to use, but... maybe that's a video project of it's own, lol. I think that Shy Guys Falls is a shoo-in for Yoshi's Island! The large population of Shy Guys is the most direct connection, but even that aside, I think the landscape resembles Yoshi's Island, or at least the surrounding Dinosaur land, quite a lot! Especially in the way it's depicted in Mario World, on the world map. The tall, orange-toned hills and cliffsides with greenery at the top matches up nicely, IMO. There are even prominent waterfalls on that world map! I can think of one desert level with sand as red as that of Bone-Dry Dunes- Tostarena! Perhaps this track takes place somewhere near there, in the Sand Kingdom? There's a connection in the skeletal motif, as well. The Mario land connection with Dragon Driftway is awesome, I didn't know about that one! Love to see that side of the universe enriched a bit. Also, I totally agree with your decision to place Sweet Sweet Canyon near the Sweet Sweet Galaxy! I think that's the right call, and it's fun to think that the more exotic maps can take place way outside their Earth. I agree about the Wild Woods being closest to Wood Kingdom, I could see them being close by at least, even though it's not a perfect match. Boggly Woods feels way too different, IMO... Looking forward to future installments in this!
I would assume the Water Park is meant to be partially underwater, if it panders to Nokis. Especially with the strong shell aesthetic it has. Its either designed by Nokis, or a tourist trap for them. Thwomp Ruins reminds me alot of Thwomp Volcano from Partners in Time. But it may also be closely related to Whomps Domino Ruins from the recent Mario Party game. Potentially both arose in the same area, but its hard to tell how connected Whomps and Thwomps truly are. They share many aesthetics and similar designs, but theres rarely ever any direct correlation between them with in game lore. I would wager Shy Guy falls is somewhere on Yoshis Island. With the only caveat being that most mountains in that island are the toony cylindrical pill-shaped colorful mountains. But its up to you whether thats an artistic liberty, or straight up how the mountains look. There is ONE example as far as I know of oil drilling the Mario Universe. Which was from a album Nintendo commissioned artists to make about Mario and literacy... It was a different time. That album includes a favorite of mine, "Ignorance is Bliss" by Jellyfish, where Bowser is specifically described as an Oil Tycoon, and trying to get fossil fuels out of Dinosaur land, but cannot read his book of spells because he is illiterate. So maybe its a frozen part of Dinosaur Land, which ironically from memory I remember no frozen parts of Super Mario World.
1:45 I agree with your point here that Water Park isn’t located in a wario-y area, but the W has wario’s mustache behind it and it has cars with wario’s overalls on them
Always love a good video going into the surprisingly connected lore of Mario Kart 8. Considering that these get referenced in other stuff too like Odyssey and even the movie, I really hope Nintendo adds cool little details like this in the next Mario Kart game too
Because the map is tilted like this: super bell subway rail map instead of this: super bell Underground Railway it is showing both subway and long distance lines. Which means the stations could be hundreds or even thousands of miles apart.
Personally, I think Sweet Sweet Kingdom is around one of the sugary areas in the Sprixie Kingdom, since there isn’t much evidence the course is in space, and 3D World is the only other Mario game to feature candy-themed levels, IIRC.
11:38 I think Ice Ice Outpost might be located by Cool Cool Mountain from Super Mario 64. I know CCM is a location entered through a painting, but you can do the same in Odyssey and they lead to locations you already visited
8:08 I think this actually could be somewhere in Gusty Garden Galaxy. Why? The Galaxy games are the only time in the series I can think of beanstalks that are that massive floating in the sky, and it also features a giant ? block, which wouldn't be out of place there either. On top of that, the music that plays in a section of the course's theme is that of Gusty Garden Galaxy, which has it pretty set in stone for me.
my theory is that Wild Woods is somewhere at Donkey Kong Island Remember those Ewok Village levels from Donkey Kong Country? The village seen in Wild Woods looks pretty similar. If you want a better look of the Ewok Village, then look at Vine Valley from DKC Returns
I like to think that those who proposed a racing tournament just somehow found a huge mass of land that had all these biomes, and from there they decided to make a bunch of themed racetracks designed around iconic Mario World themes.
There is no game that abbreviates to that. If you mean the game in the DS. It’s literally just called “New super Mario Bros” (or NSMB for short.) there is no “DS” in its name
8:45 you mention that the red sand in Bone-Dry Ruins isn't seen anywhere else in the Mario world, but isn't it just possible that the sand looks particularly red because the race is taking place near sunset, and would look more like normal yellow-brown sand under regular lighting?
No. It can’t be the lighting because lighting affects the appearance of everything in an area, and the characters remain unaffected. it must therefore be the texture itself that is red.
Shy guy falls, Thwomp ruins, Mario circuit (and wario's gold mine by extension) could take place near sparkling waters from NSMBU. Mainly because the terrain is very similar: big jaged stony plateus with grass on top and several holes and waterfalls troughout
I love these world building videos on Mario and would ADORE to see more videos like this from the Mariokart series. I’d love to know where the nitro courses for Mariokart Tour take place!!
I think Thwomp Ruins could be somewhere near the Cascade Kingdom. Not in the kingdom itself, but relatively close. Maybe somewhere below the kingdom, since it’s on a giant cliff thing in odyssey I’d like to see this for the other games. I think 7 would be interesting, with places like Wario Shipyard, Shy Guy Bazaar, and Wuhu Loop! Well, not that last one. Other games would be awesome too. DS would have some interesting ones. Wild Woods could be near Mondo Woods from Paper Mario Color Splash, or a similar concept. I wasn’t going to bring it up until you mentioned TTYD. Essentially, Kamek made some woods big. If not the same location, it’s certainly feasible that magic was involved. Honeyhive Galaxy also has some large trees, but is too aesthetically different.
this hits close to home because when i was younger i used to try to make a connected universe with mario kart 8 and super mario odyssey by sorting the tracks by the odyssey kingdoms. (mostly just by aesthetic) sweet sweet kingdom would be in a far corner of the luncheon kingdom and thwomp ruins was in the cascade kingdom because the backgrounds and themes are similar to name a few examples.
Sunshine airport Could also very well be on one of the surrounding islands that are never visited As far as we know they could have their own shines and stuff
For the waterpark, I do agree that it makes sense to be on Isle Delfino, especially with it being a sort of tourist attraction, but the W on the ferris wheel does have a mustache behind that is similar in appearance to Wario’s, plus some of the actual parts of the ferris wheel you ride in are designed after Wario’s clothes, so maybe Wario is a sort of sponsor for the park.
I don't think Sweet Sweet Canyon is in Sweet Sweet Galaxy. Mario Wonder has levels like Maw Maw Mouthful and Gnasher Lair that take place in a candy setting and I think that place is more likely
All characters and courses in the DLC were originally created for Mario Kart Tour, but if you're talking about release/reveal dates, you are correct. I won't list every course like this, but for the new ones, there is also Sky-High Sundae and Squeaky Clean Sprint.
honestly if they ever made a Super Mario Odyssey 2, or a DLC it would be super nice if they incorperated alot of these tracks as real playable and explorable places. Not only do we get to see the areas outside the tracks, we get to know so so much more about the mario world. Imagine Thwomp Ruins, Rainbow Road, Electrodrome, Wild Woods, Shy Guy Falls, Maybe all or even a few of the Theme Parks. It would be amazing
You do make valid points about Sweet Sweet Canyon being in Sweet Sweet Galaxy (like the name as you said), but I do also like the idea of food related tracks being in or around the Lucheon Kingdom
The thwomp ruins could be in rock-candy mines, the color of bricks, form of the mountain and the fact that the course is above clouds remind me of that place
8:09 I think that Cloudtop Cruise is set somewhere in Gusty Garden Galaxy. The music is similar, both have massive vines and are in the clouds. It makes almost prefect sense.
9:13 I would probably say this is a Bowser Territory in the Sand Kingdom, which does have this yellower sand, and which we've only seen a small portion of.
5: 17 I imagine it's location is one of the levels in Mario Bros 2 (US) for the NES, given obviously the shyguys, and the fact that the walls you're actually driving on are cliff faces with water falls, as was the design in Mario Bros 2 (US).
I want to point out that, with the way that Mario Galaxy ended, any place that we saw in that game could easily be somewhere else at the end, including on "earth", even in the Mushroom Kingdom. Maybe that's also how Layer Cake Desert was created ...
Thwomp Ruins could certainly take place in Super Mario 3D World's location.. presumably somewhere closer to 4-5 Spike's Lost City. The motifs are incredibly similar, an abundances of Thwomps, an expansive ruins location, even the music is sort of built thematically like 3D World's with a mix of Fantom-like synths and real world instrumentation.
Paper Mario: Sticker Star's 5th world is a jungle area. It's called Shy Guy Jungle and it's home to the Chomp Ruins. Maybe Thwomp Ruins are around there too. They have a similar architecture too.
If we let the movie be at least partially canon, we can assume they got to other universes through a warp pipe. Obviously, that goes for the World Tour courses set in real world cities.
1:39 you can clearly see the merry go round is built for underwater use due to the submarine styled hatch on it so I think its supposed to be like that and you can see that area is located underneath the harbor if it was flooded its surroundings would look much different also the way the sub coaster enters and exits there relys on it to be underwater as you can see its wheels raise up and it funchions like a normal submarine so id say that area is intentionally meant to be underwater
koopa beach from MK64 is also near sunshine airport since you can see the koopa rock in the distance on the glider section. it’s like how you can see daisy cruiser on peach beach and yoshi circuit in double dash
I can think of an explanation for how Moo Moo Meadows and GCN Sherbet Land can be close by to one another. Seasons; It’s clearly winter in Sherbet Land, and spring or summer in Moo Moo Meadows.
Luncheon kingdom (at least the one we see in in odyssey) is surrounded by some sort of pink lava, Mario kart 8 deluxe is just Mario kart 8 with new characters and more tracks (if you have the booster course pass) since Mario kart 8 came before Mario odyssey, sweat sweat galaxy makes more sense
8:01 actually the ds version of the first Olympic winter games take place in a unique location in the Mario/sonic universe, so mount wario could totally be a mountain located in the Icepeak mountain range from that game.
@@PiantapediaYT,if you listen closer to the Track’s Music & played Super Mario Galaxy,you would know that Cloudtop Cruise is based of Gusty Garden Galaxy!!
When I was younger I thought Mount Wario was the same location of Winter Sports Champion Race from Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winters Games Sochi 2014
7:38 This is more of a theory but I think I know where Mount Wario is. In Mario Kart Arcade GP games, each cup has 2 races in the same location/formation, one of them being the Wario Cup with “Diamond City” and “Snow Panic”. I think Diamond City was a location in the WarioWare series, and in “Snow Panic” you briefly take a detour from the city streets to a snowy area under construction. While not confirmed, the completed structure likely became the Mount Wario race track. tldr: Mount Wario is in Diamond City from WarioWare
Thwomp Ruins probably takes place somewhere on/near Wushu Isl. as its style is almost identical to the style of the Cliffside Ruins you can see in Island Flyover
8:10 i think Cloudtop Cruise is located somewhere in Sky Land from Super Mario Bros. 3, but that's just a guess based off the color scheme and retro subject matter
Considering mario wonder has a candy/cake themed area in petal isles i think the flower kingdom is more likely for sweet sweet canyon and choco mountain
Super Bell Subway, N64 Ranbow Road, Toad Harbor, Mario Kart Stadium, and Toad Turnpike all take place in TOAD CITY, this confirmed by the map seen in the subway.
That means that Melody Motorway (Music Park) and Yoshi Valley aren’t very far from Toad City as trains run to and from these location quite quickly, as shown on the timetables
Would moonview highway also be in toad city? Also, I’m unsure if mushroom city and mushroom bridge are part of a different city altogether or just another borough of toad city.
@islippedtheslime In Mario Kart double dash, Mushroom City is seen across the ocean of Mushroom Bridge
weird question but how is toad turnpike in the same city as toad harbor, there are no skyscraper's anywear near there or n64 rainbow road?
@atomicbattleground8681 It's a highway in the same city. There are buses with the name Toad City.
7:30 I know it's hardly noticeable, but Electrodrome isn't just one nightclub but rather an entire city. You can see numerous buildings surrounding you and there is also no ceiling, just a nightsky with the visible moon. It may be true that Electrodrome is a part of Neo Bowser City though
Took until you told me to notice it’s not entirely indoors
@snaifhassnan6348 yeah I also only realized like a few months ago
Noticed it too
Electrodrome is my favorite map, and I only just realized that it's outdoors
3:52 counterpoint: The racetrack, anti-gravity and smaller size of the castle means this is most likely the replica of a famous in-universe location
id say royal raceway is the real peachs castle as ita much larger right?
Maybe the one from Mario Maker 2?
A lot of locations are confirmed canonically and in-game by subway maps in different courses, and maps on monitor screens at Sunshine Airport.
Subway maps show connections, not locations.
This is not a theory, it is literally how the real life tube map for the London Underground is set up.
@@algotkristoffersson15nonetheless if paired with the map that was made in the other video, it could provide more insight. Wouldn’t go as far as to call that “confirmed canonically” though.
two stops could be 500 feet apart and the next two could be 75 miles and passing below other locations. difficult to actually get any info out of a subway map
@@solarprogeny6736 especially in a world with warp pipes
small correction but electrodrome actually takes place outside the club's exterior! you can tell because you can see the moon and buildings in certain parts of the map
Interesting video! Something I never gave much thought to but definitely neat to think about.
One thing to note: I am very surprised you so quickly dismissed the Wario-Water Park connection. While it may seem improbable or strange, Water Park is definitely a Wario-themed course, at least to an extent.
Someone else already mentioned the big W logo as bearing Wario's mustache, but there is also an attraction called "Waluigi Sea bed" to the left of the starting area. You can see it if you pause the video at around 1:52.
As for Thwomp Ruins, all that comes to mind for me is Whomp's Domino Ruins from Super Mario Party.
Not sure if Sweet Sweet Canyon is outside of the Mario world, but it looks like some kind of joint effort between Peach and Daisy, based on the decorations/logos and such.
And if you're going to make connection to Super Mario Galaxy, maybe Cloudtop Cruise is set in Gusty Garden Galaxy? The theming and music seem to reference it heavily.
The possibility of Dragon Driftway taking place in the Chai Kingdom is actually really exciting. But speaking of Sarasaland, Shyguy falls could take place in the Easton Kingdom as the 2nd level and parts of the 3rd heavily feature waterfalls and caves within rocky locations, and based on the cover art of the game, would be the mountains. Plus, Daisy and shyguys have this sort of weird connection to each other
Sunshine airport isn't exactly on Isle Delfino, but instead is the airport that took Mario, Peach, Toadsworth and some Toads to it. Also, the Koopa Beach in the background suggest it is nearby the N64 track (and maybe even the SNES Koopa Beaches)
I imagine it’s been renovated massively.
I don't see why there'd be a Shine Sprite themed airport in the Mushroom Kingdom. I just think it's in Ilse Delphino and it has been updated since Mario Sunshine.
For the F-Zero universe, FZ GP Legend actually reveals that Mute City is New York in the future. So that one is an AU of a real-life location! FZGPL also suggests Big Blue is its own one of several planets that appeared at some point near Earth.
My theory for Wild Woods was somewhere near the Somnom woods from Mario & Luigi Dream Team.
There's no definitive proof or anything, but I get the same general vibe from the two locations.
Ah ye!!! I love Mario kart for this! I used to be much more active in a subreddit called "Marioverse" and there was a lotta discussion about this stuff!
Also, for Sunshine Airport, you can see the Rock from the old N64 Koopa... Beach? Koopa Circuit? So, I always assume that it is on or around the Turtle shaped island we see to the east of Isle Delfino?
It's N64 Koopa Troopa Beach, and yeah, said Koopa rock can be clearly seen in the background at 5:48. Although I don't think the island itself is an exact match from the one in Mario Kart 64, judging by the shape, lack of stone walls, and abundance of grass. Maybe they got the same stone carver that did the statue in N64 Koopa Troopa Beach to make a replica on another island.
these courses really seem like the rivalries are just for show and mario and bowser are just really chummy with eachother
I'm pretty sure Miyamoto confirmed something to this effect. Basically, every Mario game is a play put on by the cast of characters. It explains why Mario and Bowser will do kart racing and tennis and all that other stuff together.
Now this is the type of world building I like to think about when it comes to the Mario Series. It makes these tracks feel more lived than just random locations floating in an aimless abyss
Cloudtop Cruise probably takes place in World 5 from Super Mario Bros 3, considering it is set on clouds and has airships
Isn't world 7 in smb3 the pipe world?
@@leleeleeee-p4z I meant world 5, sorry
I always assumed it takes place in a coin heaven due to the long vine that leads to the cloudy section
I always assumed it took place in the Gusty Garden Galaxy because it references the music
Thwomp Ruins probably takes place in a Donkey Kong Location, since it kinds has a Donkey Kong vibe. And it would make sense.
And the staff ghost is Donkey Kong.
I’d say it’s more likely connected to Thwomp Volcano or Thwomp Desert.
@@seandwalsh3Yeah, the environment looks almost identical to Thwomp Volcano
i would agree, were it not for the scarcity (if not outright non-existence) of mushroom/koopa kingdom enemies in dk games. it would be very strange for the dk part of the world to have one part with tons of mario enemies and then have the rest of the area feature none at all
@@seandwalsh3 Thwomp Volcano Partners In Time for my vote.
I think Thwomp ruins looks a lot like the board Whomp’s domino ruins from super Mario party and could be in the same area.
agree
The W does have a mustache though...
I was just coming down to comment the same thing. It is a W with Wario 'stache and nose behind it
this is what i was coming to comment lol
Also the carriages on it look like wario’s yellow shirt and purple overall
There's maps too & the attractions have names based on Wario & Waluigi
Wouldn't it be funny if it's in Diamond City
Thank you for making this video. When it first came out, it inspired me to start a project where I cartograph the entirety of the Mario universe, and I’ve had a blast doing it.
I think water park is in Wario city from Super sluggers since Nokis can be in both and the W is similar enough that they could be trying to use the Wario w but couldn’t get the rights
13:04 while I agree that this map is completely unreliable, at least we can learn 1 thing from this, Sweet Sweet Canyon is set on Earth. And with that in mind (and the fact it's close to Bone Dry Dunes, but again, this is unreliable), I would set the course in Layer Cake Desert from nsmbU
Well not necessarily, because the map also goes to rainbow road, which is… in space
@@V_Ladxthelad well, it doesn't specify wich Rainbow Road it is, so it could be SNES Rainbow Road
@@brunolike8631 fair point
Not necessarily. Subway maps show how the different train lines connect. Not literal locations. And the train might pass through a warp pipe to get between those locations.
This doesn't really confirm nor deny anything but it's worth noting that Sweet Sweet Canyon is implied to be a creation of Peach and Daisy, since their Royal Patisserie logo is seen all over the track, a giant crown with both their emblems surrounding it is seen on top of the giant cake in the middle of the track, the spectator stands where the gingerbread men are seen are actually bakery packaging and the ocean is made with huge bottles of Princess Orange soda (take a guess who that's made by). I just find the idea that the princesses made a giant desert canyon out of baked goods to be really funny (as an Adventure Time fan though, can't say this is an entirely foreign concept to me)
7:10 You can actually see the sky and some buildings on Electrodrome, so it's not an enclosed space like a nightclub would be.
3:30 Hey, I wonder if Thwomp Ruins is from Thwomp Volcano in Mario and Luigi Partners in Time? That would be so cool, and the only place I could think of! Love these location videos man keep it up.
Shy Guy Falls might be set on Subcon. Worlds 1, 3 and 5 look similar enough. And even Wild Woods might be there too, considering we have giant trees in 5-3 .
Exactly my thoughts. When I saw big cliffs with straight falling waterfalls I immediately thought SMB2 1-1. Also because it's where you first meet Shyguys
sweet sweet canyon could be from layer-cake desert as well
I wonder about this too, Coconut Mallory, Sunshine Airport, and Peach Beach all apparently take place on Isle Delfino.
Probably on surrounding islands - Isle Delfino is explored in its entirety in Super Mario Sunshine and there’s absolutely no space for any of those tracks on the island.
Delfino Square from DS does, too.
@@cameronpierce4997 also almost definitely a different island
@@seandwalsh3 Or they weren't built at the time considering Sunshine predates the existence of the tracks.
@@jourdonpatron212 definitely not. There’s no space for them on the island.
When you brought up sweet sweet canyon, I immediately thought of the southeastern island of the petal isles from SMBW. Very dessert themed, has distant mountains, and the other level on the island has what appears to be honey, but we could say it’s orange juice (the thickness could be from sugar, since if you’ve spilled fruit juice or other sugary liquids on the floor, it does tend to stick and become very hard to remove)
10:35 The F-Zero universe may not have a name, but Mute City is located on Earth and Big Blue is named after the planet the track is built on
Oooh I love the concept for this video so much! It'd be even more satisfying to mark them down on a Mario world map, I'd love to see that map develop with more and more pins over multiple videos. I know there isn't a reliable map of the mario world to use, but... maybe that's a video project of it's own, lol.
I think that Shy Guys Falls is a shoo-in for Yoshi's Island! The large population of Shy Guys is the most direct connection, but even that aside, I think the landscape resembles Yoshi's Island, or at least the surrounding Dinosaur land, quite a lot! Especially in the way it's depicted in Mario World, on the world map. The tall, orange-toned hills and cliffsides with greenery at the top matches up nicely, IMO. There are even prominent waterfalls on that world map!
I can think of one desert level with sand as red as that of Bone-Dry Dunes- Tostarena! Perhaps this track takes place somewhere near there, in the Sand Kingdom? There's a connection in the skeletal motif, as well.
The Mario land connection with Dragon Driftway is awesome, I didn't know about that one! Love to see that side of the universe enriched a bit. Also, I totally agree with your decision to place Sweet Sweet Canyon near the Sweet Sweet Galaxy! I think that's the right call, and it's fun to think that the more exotic maps can take place way outside their Earth.
I agree about the Wild Woods being closest to Wood Kingdom, I could see them being close by at least, even though it's not a perfect match. Boggly Woods feels way too different, IMO...
Looking forward to future installments in this!
Seit Sweet Canyon seems to be on a bigger planet though, I think it’s more likely located in the Flower Kingdom
I would assume the Water Park is meant to be partially underwater, if it panders to Nokis. Especially with the strong shell aesthetic it has. Its either designed by Nokis, or a tourist trap for them.
Thwomp Ruins reminds me alot of Thwomp Volcano from Partners in Time. But it may also be closely related to Whomps Domino Ruins from the recent Mario Party game. Potentially both arose in the same area, but its hard to tell how connected Whomps and Thwomps truly are. They share many aesthetics and similar designs, but theres rarely ever any direct correlation between them with in game lore.
I would wager Shy Guy falls is somewhere on Yoshis Island. With the only caveat being that most mountains in that island are the toony cylindrical pill-shaped colorful mountains. But its up to you whether thats an artistic liberty, or straight up how the mountains look.
There is ONE example as far as I know of oil drilling the Mario Universe. Which was from a album Nintendo commissioned artists to make about Mario and literacy... It was a different time. That album includes a favorite of mine, "Ignorance is Bliss" by Jellyfish, where Bowser is specifically described as an Oil Tycoon, and trying to get fossil fuels out of Dinosaur land, but cannot read his book of spells because he is illiterate. So maybe its a frozen part of Dinosaur Land, which ironically from memory I remember no frozen parts of Super Mario World.
1:45 I agree with your point here that Water Park isn’t located in a wario-y area, but the W has wario’s mustache behind it and it has cars with wario’s overalls on them
Your videos on these in depth delves make me absurdly happy. Thanks man.
Happy to hear it!
Always love a good video going into the surprisingly connected lore of Mario Kart 8. Considering that these get referenced in other stuff too like Odyssey and even the movie, I really hope Nintendo adds cool little details like this in the next Mario Kart game too
Because the map is tilted like this: super bell subway rail map instead of this: super bell Underground Railway it is showing both subway and long distance lines. Which means the stations could be hundreds or even thousands of miles apart.
Personally, I think Sweet Sweet Kingdom is around one of the sugary areas in the Sprixie Kingdom, since there isn’t much evidence the course is in space, and 3D World is the only other Mario game to feature candy-themed levels, IIRC.
11:38 I think Ice Ice Outpost might be located by Cool Cool Mountain from Super Mario 64. I know CCM is a location entered through a painting, but you can do the same in Odyssey and they lead to locations you already visited
Thwomp Ruins could be connected to the old Thwomp inhabited castles in Chapter 1 of TTYD
Cloudtop cruise and sky garden are 100% related to Nimbus land from Mario RPG
8:08 I think this actually could be somewhere in Gusty Garden Galaxy. Why? The Galaxy games are the only time in the series I can think of beanstalks that are that massive floating in the sky, and it also features a giant ? block, which wouldn't be out of place there either. On top of that, the music that plays in a section of the course's theme is that of Gusty Garden Galaxy, which has it pretty set in stone for me.
13:31 the rail map only shows connections not location. The actual map of the London Underground works the exact same way
my theory is that Wild Woods is somewhere at Donkey Kong Island
Remember those Ewok Village levels from Donkey Kong Country? The village seen in Wild Woods looks pretty similar. If you want a better look of the Ewok Village, then look at Vine Valley from DKC Returns
8:30 I always figured Sky Garden was in the mushroom kingdom- somewhere near Nimbus Land from Super Mario RPG!
Rainbow road also literally has Earth in the background
Now I want to know where Amsterdam Drift takes place so bad😢
I like to think that those who proposed a racing tournament just somehow found a huge mass of land that had all these biomes, and from there they decided to make a bunch of themed racetracks designed around iconic Mario World themes.
I figure that Mario Kart Stadium takes place in Mushroom City from Double Dash it also has Wario Colosseum so why not a rival venue
Thwomp ruins gives me world 7 NSMBDS vibes
There is no game that abbreviates to that.
If you mean the game in the DS. It’s literally just called “New super Mario Bros” (or NSMB for short.) there is no “DS” in its name
@@algotkristoffersson15 hey asshat, I put DS in there to clarify. Don’t be a dick.
8:45 you mention that the red sand in Bone-Dry Ruins isn't seen anywhere else in the Mario world, but isn't it just possible that the sand looks particularly red because the race is taking place near sunset, and would look more like normal yellow-brown sand under regular lighting?
No. It can’t be the lighting because lighting affects the appearance of everything in an area, and the characters remain unaffected. it must therefore be the texture itself that is red.
It’s probably in the sand kingdom
I believe Cheese Land is located in the Luncheon Kingdom!
"bone-dry dunes has sand too red to be in any mario ga-" WORLD 4. SUPER MARIO 3D WORLD.
Shy guy falls, Thwomp ruins, Mario circuit (and wario's gold mine by extension) could take place near sparkling waters from NSMBU. Mainly because the terrain is very similar: big jaged stony plateus with grass on top and several holes and waterfalls troughout
I love these world building videos on Mario and would ADORE to see more videos like this from the Mariokart series. I’d love to know where the nitro courses for Mariokart Tour take place!!
I think Thwomp Ruins could be somewhere near the Cascade Kingdom. Not in the kingdom itself, but relatively close. Maybe somewhere below the kingdom, since it’s on a giant cliff thing in odyssey
I’d like to see this for the other games. I think 7 would be interesting, with places like Wario Shipyard, Shy Guy Bazaar, and Wuhu Loop! Well, not that last one. Other games would be awesome too. DS would have some interesting ones.
Wild Woods could be near Mondo Woods from Paper Mario Color Splash, or a similar concept. I wasn’t going to bring it up until you mentioned TTYD. Essentially, Kamek made some woods big. If not the same location, it’s certainly feasible that magic was involved. Honeyhive Galaxy also has some large trees, but is too aesthetically different.
The Mario version of Cybershell
Sweet Sweet Canyon could also be in the flower Kingdom. Looks much more like the candy levels there than anything from the Galaxy games
this hits close to home because when i was younger i used to try to make a connected universe with mario kart 8 and super mario odyssey by sorting the tracks by the odyssey kingdoms. (mostly just by aesthetic) sweet sweet kingdom would be in a far corner of the luncheon kingdom and thwomp ruins was in the cascade kingdom because the backgrounds and themes are similar to name a few examples.
I’d say Thwomp Ruins takes place in Thwomp Volcano from Partners in Time
Sunshine airport
Could also very well be on one of the surrounding islands that are never visited
As far as we know they could have their own shines and stuff
For the waterpark, I do agree that it makes sense to be on Isle Delfino, especially with it being a sort of tourist attraction, but the W on the ferris wheel does have a mustache behind that is similar in appearance to Wario’s, plus some of the actual parts of the ferris wheel you ride in are designed after Wario’s clothes, so maybe Wario is a sort of sponsor for the park.
I don't think Sweet Sweet Canyon is in Sweet Sweet Galaxy. Mario Wonder has levels like Maw Maw Mouthful and Gnasher Lair that take place in a candy setting and I think that place is more likely
I don’t think all the booster course pass tracks are retro/tour, but the only one I know for Sure is brand new is Yoshi’s Island
All characters and courses in the DLC were originally created for Mario Kart Tour, but if you're talking about release/reveal dates, you are correct. I won't list every course like this, but for the new ones, there is also Sky-High Sundae and Squeaky Clean Sprint.
@@harrybest2041 whether created for both or not I think release date is what matters here
Cloudtop Cruise's theme is partially an arrangement of Gusty Garden Galaxy, so there's definitely a connection there.
honestly if they ever made a Super Mario Odyssey 2, or a DLC it would be super nice if they incorperated alot of these tracks as real playable and explorable places. Not only do we get to see the areas outside the tracks, we get to know so so much more about the mario world.
Imagine Thwomp Ruins, Rainbow Road, Electrodrome, Wild Woods, Shy Guy Falls, Maybe all or even a few of the Theme Parks. It would be amazing
I’ve always liked videos explaining this. It’s been such an interesting topic.
2:38 have you considered that that course could be in the flower kingdom? There are candy-themed levels
You do make valid points about Sweet Sweet Canyon being in Sweet Sweet Galaxy (like the name as you said), but I do also like the idea of food related tracks being in or around the Lucheon Kingdom
The thwomp ruins could be in rock-candy mines, the color of bricks, form of the mountain and the fact that the course is above clouds remind me of that place
i think bone dry dunes might take place somewhere in Tostarena from super mario Odyssey
8:09 I think that Cloudtop Cruise is set somewhere in Gusty Garden Galaxy. The music is similar, both have massive vines and are in the clouds. It makes almost prefect sense.
9:13 I would probably say this is a Bowser Territory in the Sand Kingdom, which does have this yellower sand, and which we've only seen a small portion of.
You can see some koopa islands of of sunshine airport, so I believe it is near Koopa Beach from Mario Kart 64.
5: 17 I imagine it's location is one of the levels in Mario Bros 2 (US) for the NES, given obviously the shyguys, and the fact that the walls you're actually driving on are cliff faces with water falls, as was the design in Mario Bros 2 (US).
I want to point out that, with the way that Mario Galaxy ended, any place that we saw in that game could easily be somewhere else at the end, including on "earth", even in the Mushroom Kingdom. Maybe that's also how Layer Cake Desert was created ...
Thwomp Ruins could certainly take place in Super Mario 3D World's location.. presumably somewhere closer to 4-5 Spike's Lost City. The motifs are incredibly similar, an abundances of Thwomps, an expansive ruins location, even the music is sort of built thematically like 3D World's with a mix of Fantom-like synths and real world instrumentation.
10:16 bro the planet is literally beneath the course what are you on about
The planet is always beneath everything because that’s how down is defined.
@@algotkristoffersson15 why are you like this
Paper Mario: Sticker Star's 5th world is a jungle area. It's called Shy Guy Jungle and it's home to the Chomp Ruins. Maybe Thwomp Ruins are around there too.
They have a similar architecture too.
If we let the movie be at least partially canon, we can assume they got to other universes through a warp pipe. Obviously, that goes for the World Tour courses set in real world cities.
1:39 you can clearly see the merry go round is built for underwater use due to the submarine styled hatch on it so I think its supposed to be like that and you can see that area is located underneath the harbor if it was flooded its surroundings would look much different also the way the sub coaster enters and exits there relys on it to be underwater as you can see its wheels raise up and it funchions like a normal submarine so id say that area is intentionally meant to be underwater
koopa beach from MK64 is also near sunshine airport since you can see the koopa rock in the distance on the glider section. it’s like how you can see daisy cruiser on peach beach and yoshi circuit in double dash
I think the Whomp’s Domino Ruins board from Super Mario Party and Thwomp Ruins from Mario Kart 8 are in the same location.
I’m so excited for the retro tracks! Like where is Tick Tock Clock!?
I can think of an explanation for how Moo Moo Meadows and GCN Sherbet Land can be close by to one another.
Seasons;
It’s clearly winter in Sherbet Land, and spring or summer in Moo Moo Meadows.
I honestly thought Sunshine Airport would more likely be the Delfino Airstrip itself after getting renovated into a proper airport.
I keep wondering about this. I like the idea of a cohesive world in the Super Mario Series
I would LOVE for you to cover the other MK games & their tracks, absolutely! Double Dash especially, would be great!
1:49 Bruh, the W has his mustache and the boxes are his overalls
In Water Park, the W on the wheel has Warios mustache
My Thwomp Ruins theory is that it is one of Bowser's abandoned castles.
Iirc the booster pass actually included a small number of original courses. I think there were only 3, but those 3 are still worth checking out.
2:39 Bro completely disregarded the existance of the Luncheon kingdom of odessey...
Luncheon kingdom (at least the one we see in in odyssey) is surrounded by some sort of pink lava, Mario kart 8 deluxe is just Mario kart 8 with new characters and more tracks (if you have the booster course pass) since Mario kart 8 came before Mario odyssey, sweat sweat galaxy makes more sense
Would love love love to see more of this!!
8:01 actually the ds version of the first Olympic winter games take place in a unique location in the Mario/sonic universe, so mount wario could totally be a mountain located in the Icepeak mountain range from that game.
I also like to imagine where the tracks could be located. A second part would be good 😊
God, how much i love your channel
Thank you!
@@PiantapediaYT,if you listen closer to the Track’s Music & played Super Mario Galaxy,you would know that Cloudtop Cruise is based of Gusty Garden Galaxy!!
When I was younger I thought Mount Wario was the same location of Winter Sports Champion Race from Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winters Games Sochi 2014
My headcanon is that all non-BCP courses take place in a large amusement park
7:38 This is more of a theory but I think I know where Mount Wario is. In Mario Kart Arcade GP games, each cup has 2 races in the same location/formation, one of them being the Wario Cup with “Diamond City” and “Snow Panic”. I think Diamond City was a location in the WarioWare series, and in “Snow Panic” you briefly take a detour from the city streets to a snowy area under construction. While not confirmed, the completed structure likely became the Mount Wario race track.
tldr: Mount Wario is in Diamond City from WarioWare
Thwomp Ruins probably takes place somewhere on/near Wushu Isl. as its style is almost identical to the style of the Cliffside Ruins you can see in Island Flyover
8:10 i think Cloudtop Cruise is located somewhere in Sky Land from Super Mario Bros. 3, but that's just a guess based off the color scheme and retro subject matter
4:52 he’s in Luigi’s mansion too
That was boolossus, who is technically a separate character
Considering mario wonder has a candy/cake themed area in petal isles i think the flower kingdom is more likely for sweet sweet canyon and choco mountain