I said it would only take a week to get the results video out, and this time I delivered on my promise!! Hope you enjoy the video - this one was a mammoth video to edit, so I'm gonna go relax for a day or two before starting my next video, but I'll see you in 1 or 2 weeks!! Thanks as always for supporting my channel by watching my silly little Nintendo videos, I feel so lucky that this is my job! :) - Thomas
Part of me wonders how much of these results come from community nostalgia over thoughts on each course’s actual quality. I mean, when more than half of the top 10 tracks were in Mario Kart Wii, it makes you start to wonder if people just have a Wii bias
@@-Teague- I mean yeah the game itself was built different, but personally I think that’s more due to how the controls felt and the (lack of) item balance, not the courses themselves being superior. Obviously Coconut Mall and Rainbow Road deserve their top spots, but I’m just surprised so many Wii tracks (and Grumble Volcano which tbh is more recognized for Wii than Double Dash at this point) got ranked so highly
Strong MK Wii nostalgia and a sense of “tired” familiarity with MK 8DX have definitely influenced this list. Still, an interesting analysis, but some absolute bangers were paid total dust here.
I mean, popular opinion is never the end-all be-all to me. It gets which tracks are the most popular right now across the people who voted, but there's so many demographics here and so many different reasons to like or hate a track that a list like this will never satisfy everyone.
There is a *LOT* of recency bias in this results... all the way to giving the first place to Wii Rainbow Road. But I guess it is natural that anyone disagrees since there are so many courses. I am kind of intrigued to see how this results would look by taking into account what courses are voted the most frequently in online races. Nintendo probably has a more objective view of peoples opinions just by that method, that takes into account recency and all that.
I actually did something somewhat like this for a while a couple months ago! I kept track of how many times every track got selected to race on and the most frequent one ended up being GBA Ribbon Road, being selected 16 of the 28 times it appeared (57.14%). Not exactly the same but still pretty interesting I think.
@@broshi1752You are correct! Royal Raceway is the number 1 track online. I know this because I keep track of my stats and have nearly 6000 races logged.
Overall there are only 3 Wave 6 maps which are rated higher than 48th place. And two of them are complete fan favourites and one just delivered very good.
There are only 3 tracks from Wave 6 that made it in the top half. 2 of those are fan favorites from a long time, and the other is a brand new track that is well done. It might've played a role but I don't think it was very noticeable
Although this list is mostly accurate in my opinion, recency bias and nostalgia, especially MKWii nostalgia, are definitely at play. As someone studying statistics, I feel a need to mention this.
Also another facet that occurred to me here is there isn’t anything to account for 150 as opposed to 200cc here. I understand that the vast majority of players prefer 150 but as someone who plays almost exclusively 200 and has friends who also do some of these picks absolutely baffled me, but upon further inspection is a direct result on the 200vs 150 split (the easiest example I can give is in this list Rome avanti being above Madrid drive, Rome is not very smooth on 200) It makes me wonder what a survey that takes this split into account would be like
@@joshevans3421 yeah both the F0 tracks immediately sprang to mind as shockingly low for this list, along with Piranha Plant Side. What mainly caught my eye is the tracks that would be much lower as a result, namely Wario Stadium, Ninja Hideaway, ect. Those 2 are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head that strike me as just kinda not working very well in 200 (obviously no track is made for 200 but those 2 seem poorly adjusted and thought out to the point that they just aren’t very fun on 200)
This list may portray everything below position 48 as "bad", but technically speaking, everything that has a score lower than the average of 2.5 would probably be considered as actually "bad". And sure enough, Number 96, 3DS Toad Circuit, is actually the only course in the game that did score lower than 2.5, having a score of 2.45, making it barely lower than average. Number 95, Bone-Dry Dunes actually managed to score slightly above average with a 2.53. For those who'd want to only consider those with a score of 3 or higher as "good", I've got you covered there as well: Number 81, Ice Ice Outpost scored with 3.01, barely passing it, whilst Number 82, GBA Sky Garden, barely didn't with a score of 2.99.
There are only a handful of tracks in that game I'd actively consider to be "bad tracks". Probably only excitebike and some of the city tracks. MK8 really has a lot of really good tracks.
Mariokart 7 is so underrated. It had so much influence on MK8 in terms of how to remake retro tracks and in general the physics and lots of other things.
YES!!!!!! In every ranking video I see for MK8, it's ranked ridiculously low. Some people straight up hate it and I can't even begin to imagine why. It's in my personal top 10, maybe even top 5. It slaps majorly
That's what I'm saying! Unfortunately this ranking would be very biased though just because of the lack of judging based on track layout, visuals, music, etc. For example neo bowser would probably be a top 10 track for me. The fact that it is 50th is most likely because of the hate for the tight ass turns which I understand makes the track hell, but also more interesting and complex! Otherwise yeah if we were judge neo bowser off of track layout which is interesting, good music, and the visuals of the city with the lights and the rain, it would easily be a track up there in at least top 20.
9:46 It's great to see Mount Wario place so high! It's a really unique track, and it's one of my favorites. 10:54 Waluigi's Pinball is another one of my favorites, mainly because I'm a bit of a pinball fan. Rip Twisted Mansion and Neo Bowser City...
I'm guessing Neo Bowser City scored so low because it's such a goddamn nightmare on 200cc. It was one of the best tracks in MK7, but it just wasn't intended for high speed.
yeah, especially after wave 1 but 100% agree The Rainbow Roads, Bowser Castle 3, and Pretty much all of the Wii, GameCube and GBA Tracks are complete masterpieces
@@goofyfish17 yeah i thought that too. i think the wii rainbow road is a really great track but i think most of the votes on this one is rooted in nostalgia
In my opinion the track doesn't flow nicely as most turns feel like you're in the wrong position and it feels like there's too many obstacles in the way but not enough space to move past them. There's no exiciting part of the track and every section feels so crammed together that it tries to mix in a lot of ideas of different turns but the turns don't feel satisfying. It feels like a tour track ported to mario kart 8 where it feels designed for a different games racing mechanics. The turns don't feel designed for karts or bikes, there's not interesting shorcuts and you feels funneled down areas that not only players get in the way but so do the walls and edges of the track like it's trying to make it a struggle to move. It's what cp_junction is to team fortress 2.
Hearing these rankings I realize that most of my favorites on my tier list comes from how much I enjoy racing on the tracks and not looks like a lot of other people's. I had Mario Circut 3 and Donut Plains pretty high up in my tier list because I just loved driving on those tracks. That's also why I put New York Minute below Toad Circut because TC is just bland and a poor update but NYM is just not fun to race on and irritates me
I agree with you, and even then I find donut plain 3 very pleasing visually, I just think people don't like flat tracks with no set pieces. It's also very notable that gimmicky/themed track score extremely high on the list, best demonstrated by Yoshi Valley and Hyrule circuit, both being quite bland visually and not that interesting in term of layout but score very high purely based on concept. While I overall agree with the top rankings (outside of the wave 6 tracks which are all heavily boosted in the ranking) I find the upper middle of the ranking significantly worse than the lower part of it.
The thing with New York is that it looks amazing, the song SLAPS, but my word, it is just way, WAY too slippery. The entire thing is an ice stage with an American coat of paint
@@artimist0315 how are Yoshi Valley and Hyrule Circuit more bland visually and less interesting in layout than SNES Mario Circuit 3? Maybe these tracks may not be the best in those departments, but certainly better than SNES Mario Circuit 3, and I get the value in having a mostly faithful recreation of an SNES track to stand out from the more gimmicky newer tracks, but Donut Plains 3 already served that purpose well, Mario Circuit 3 just doesn’t offer that much as a track in general
The highest placing Tour track is actually Yoshi's Island. Despite what all the marketing & technicalities will tell you, that track was created for Tour. Also while some of the cities certainly deserved to be that low, its a shame that a bunch of the good ones placed alongside them, the bias against Tour really shows.
I think it would be better to have done a survey, but for a more general public, and not just for the most Mario Kart fans, because you can see a lot of preference for Mario Kart Wii tracks (which is not bad, but there is almost no diversity
I was honestly surprised it scored this high, as well as coconut mall, both are good tracks but are such poor quality remakes, both visually and in term of gameplay. Like Waluigi pinball really lost a lot of its magic in this super out of place art style and coconut mall just look bad
Arguably it was better in Tour when it was split into three routes as their own standalone tracks, as the route with the suspension bridge is easily the most popular of them. But in MK8 the track peaks too early in the first lap and it gets progressively worse as it goes on. Still would say it's a good one though, it just has bad pacing issues
@@jesse422 that makes me think, it would be interesting to see a video going over all of the multi section tracks and have people rank the laps in each, I'm sure TGD is tired of Mario kart at this point but it'd be neat to see 😅
I’d like to see if these rankings would change if this data collection was done not from a poll of people just watching this channel, but from within the game itself: Across x games played online globally/regionally, make a note of the tracks that were offered up (3 tracks + random), and then measure how many people voted for each track (perhaps de-weighting them dependant on how many people voted random). From here it should be possible to work out the rankings from actual players online, across a large enough sample size, and weighted dependant on how many times each track was thrown into the vote from Nintendo’s end.
As much as i don't like the city tracks outside of singapore i gotta agree first time I saw it i thought cool fire and ice world track but the actual track is so bland
3ds Rainbow is by far the best course in the game, SO beautiful! I'm quite sad it didn't win. Btw what is wrong with the city tracks? Most of them look magnificent and are pretty fun to drive.
I think a major part has to just do with how poorly Tour was handled, especially the monetization of it. Since cities were like the major "advertisement point" of these games, I guess people connect the two closely. Though the small amount I've played them at a friend's place, as I don't have the DLC nor do I play MK8 very often, I feel like some of them are quite easy to get lost in, especially with the track changing with the lap. They were fine in Tour due to forced smart steering, but that's usually not used in MK8.
@@TheQuackinator I agree; having played the MK8 city tracks frequently, a few of them suffer from confusing layouts where branching paths are concerned. The giant glowing red arrows aren't the most effective guides, it turns out, and the very realistic materials for the roads and surrounding objects can sometimes make it difficult to parse from a distance what part of the track is track and what part is a sidewalk or out of bounds.
the city tracks can be confusing even after playing on them multiple times, and the first few that released were very bland, so their low standing makes sense to me
I still don't understand the hype around Waluigi Pinball, I have so many problems with the track that it's honestly surprising, specifically in 8 Deluxe
It’s a desert with no train or explorable temple with lots of obstacles, that’s why (desert environments tend to rub people the wrong way) I don’t exactly hate it as much as some people do, but it kinda falls under a similar boat to GCN Dry Dry Desert, it’s an okay desert-themed track, and nothing else
Out of all of these, these are my favorites: 1. N64 rainbow road 2. Toad's turnpike 3. Cheep cheep beach 4. Sherbert land 5. Mount Wario 6. Moon view highway 7. Animal crossing That's all! :)
Here's a list of the lowest and highest rated tracks from each game (plus the new tracks in the BCP). SNES: Mario Circuit 3 (94th) and Bowser Castle 3 (16th) N64: Toad's Turnpike (72nd) and Rainbow Road (13th) GBA: Sunset Wilds (89th) and Ribbon Road (25th) GCN: Dry Dry Desert (92nd) and DK Mountain (9th) DS: Mario Circuit (68th) and Waluigi Pinball (3rd) Wii: Moo Moo Meadows (49th) and Rainbow Road (1st) 3DS: Toad Circuit (96th) and Rainbow Road (2nd) Base Game: Bone-Dry Dunes (95th) and Mount Wario (5th) Tour: Tokyo Blur (93rd) and Singapore Speedway (47th) New BCP Tracks: Sky-High Sundae (77th) and Yoshi's Island (4th)
The fact that Wii Moo Moo Meadows is just below the top 48 just goes to show how many people love Wii. Also, if 3DS Rainbow Road was first, it would mean that MK7 has the best and worst track in MK8DX.
@@goofyfish17 no, ninja hideaway debuted in tour, but im going of the official dlc, and it has no retro label on the track unlike the city tracks which have Tour on the track name.
I'd be curious to see the most "controversial" scores - the ones with the highest variances, or the ones that received a lot of both 1's and 5's in their votes compared to the rest.
It feels like I’m one of the only people who loves Sky-High Sundae. Not only is it a beautiful course, but the constant tricks and jumps make it feel almost exhilarating. I straight up called it “delightful” after my first run of it. Also I’m shocked that Baby Park was ranked so low considering it’s typically one of the most popular tracks.
@@linhaaa same. it is the only course across all MK games that I actually hate with a fiery burning passion. Tho i can see why others would like it. I don't hate it for being poorly designed or bad, I just hate it to a comical extent and I have a very strong personal vendetta against it. Death to Baby Park
Yoshi’s Island is technically the true best Tour track in 8 Deluxe since it was developed for Tour first but ported to 8 Deluxe before its Tour release. Still happy with how it turned out even if most city tracks imo are a little too low.
@@omegablack_ just not true, I’d say Wii, ds, 7, and 8 are all about on par with each other, and people just have nostalgia bias from there first game.
I’m happy to say I’m one of those folks that took part in the survey, I did that while trying out every course at the same time to better give my opinions out. It was fun!
love this!!! I sadly was not aware of the survey while it lasted but I DID make my own ranking a week or 2 ago and played each course to have a fresh opinion. Such a fun time!!!
Most of the cities were in my opinion. I don't know if it is because of the bias there is against Tour and its tracks, but they did not deserve to be ranked lower than Baby Park.
@@BassiKun99it is bias. These kids literally can’t use critical thinking when deciding their opinions on Tour tracks. It takes a lot of stupidity to hate tour tracks simply because you hate tour
I know Tour is unpopular due to its monitization practices but I love the tracks that came from it on 8. I love that its based on cities its so cool to drive through!
Wild Woods is SUCH an enigma to me. It is genuinely a good track. But If I were suddenly asked to name as many Mario Kart 8 + DLC/BCP tracks as I could, I 100% guarantee I will not remember Wild Woods. It's a good track that is somehow just so super forgettable for me
I'd suggest a top most popular characters poll just because knowing this is the last DLC this game is extremely popular at the moment. Great video and I love, absolutely love the top half of the list, the game's last DLC tracks look amazing and play just as well!
HOW THE FUCK IS DOLPHIN SHOALS, ANIMAL CROSSING, AND THE MK8 RAINBOW ROAD SO LOW!?!?!? Also, not surprised to see Wii Rainbow Road as number one. I actually think they widened the course a tiny bit for the Switch version as I still have yet to fall off the course
i'm in shock that ice ice outpost is so low, that course is so fun!! also wow i'm surprised this came out so fast after the poll :0 nice job edit: also yeah, i think coconut mall and the other courses ported from tour probably would've been higher if they were graphically redone. i certainly would've put them higher lol
This was made while players were still in the honeymoon phase of wave 6. I believe if this was made a year later after the hype dies then there might be a little bit of difference without the hype influencing it.
Wii Rainbow Road's music might actually be the greatest theme ever composed for a video game. A bold claim, I know, but as a self-proclaimed VGM connoisseur I'm very serious.
Here are my top 5 1. Wii Rainbow Road 2. 3DS Rainbow Road 3. Bowsers Castle 3 4. Singapore Speedway 5. Big Blue Squeaky Clean Spring is my honorable top 5 mentioned. I’m not surprised to see so many Wii Tracks pretty high. Mario Kart Wii tracks are so good.
Mario Kart DS is the first video game I ever owned, so I stand strong in saying Waluigi Pinball is the best track ever and it will never be topped. It’s so nostalgic, but fundamentally it just works better than any other track.
i never understood why bone dry dunes is so disliked. the music is really good and it has the one of most unique aesthetics out of all of the desert tracks. it's quite fun in my opinion too
i was shocked about cheese land and royal raceway those tracks are always picked online my personal top 10 is 1 gba ribbon road 2 mount wario 3 3ds rainbow road 4 gba cheese land 5 electrodrome 6 yoshi’s island 7 n64 royal raceway 8 3ds neo bowser city 9 gcn yoshi’s circuit 10 super bell subway
People really voted great tracks like 3DS Neo Bowser City (Koopa City in europe) in the bottom half, and trash like 3DS Piranha Plant Pipeway in the top half
A lot of my favorites were pretty low. Cheese Land rocks, and I'm sad to see it's so low on the list. The new tracks are not nearly as quality as the old tracks.
Shocked that the Athens track isnt higher! It's my favourite of the real-world tracks because of how much it *doesn't* feel like a real world track. also yeah, I know it's a recentcy bias thing for most but Wii Rainbow Road has the best music in the game and the way they made improvements to the original track is just *perfect*. justified top spot, even if Wii favoritism is obviously doing it favors.
Thomas, this video was extremely entertaining to watch! I think the community's got pretty great taste on most of the top 10! Thanks for all your hard work in editing this video.
Toad Circuit is pretty bland, but saying it's worse than Bone-Dry Dunes is wild to me. I think this entire list had a heavy Wii bias. 6 of the top 10 tracks were also in MKW (GCN DK Mountain included), and though they're all good tracks, saying that they're better than the majority of the other tracks in MK8D seems a little suspect.
Great list! I don't know how long it took you to make it, but it would've been nice to see each track's variance, which would highlight the most polarizing tracks. Idk if that's interesting enough but I'd assume there's some interesting results (for example, people either love of HATE Baby Park)
I actually really like most of the Tour city ones, they're really creative spins on real locations. I get that there are better 100% original courses and the fact they're so low doesn't entirely reflect quality overall though, it's more just "Not as good as" than "These suck" I guess. I do agree with the Tokyo one however, it unfortunately suffered as the first city course they made. Actually, a good chunk of my favourites are near the bottom somehow, lol. Why Merry Mountain?! Come on!
I think it's just because they don't know these courses in details as much as the regular tracks. I agree it's a shame! Rome for instance is absolutely amazing, yet ranked way too low.
Nuh These tracks are mostly too busy: too many details, too many different ways, always changing through laps And usually very narrow For me personally this tracks are absolutely not fun to play. It’s not that i don’t know the layouts. I’m not even invested in learning the layouts. Cause racing there is no fun
I said it would only take a week to get the results video out, and this time I delivered on my promise!! Hope you enjoy the video - this one was a mammoth video to edit, so I'm gonna go relax for a day or two before starting my next video, but I'll see you in 1 or 2 weeks!! Thanks as always for supporting my channel by watching my silly little Nintendo videos, I feel so lucky that this is my job! :)
- Thomas
And that promise was kept well :D
go relax, you earned it :D
I voted
I really enjoy these poll based videos, Thomas!
@@TSMKstudios Same! :D
Part of me wonders how much of these results come from community nostalgia over thoughts on each course’s actual quality. I mean, when more than half of the top 10 tracks were in Mario Kart Wii, it makes you start to wonder if people just have a Wii bias
Wii was just built different
Counter argument: Wii has good tracks
Counter-Counter argument: GCN, DS, 7 & 8 have good tracks
You might have a point
@@-Teague- I mean yeah the game itself was built different, but personally I think that’s more due to how the controls felt and the (lack of) item balance, not the courses themselves being superior. Obviously Coconut Mall and Rainbow Road deserve their top spots, but I’m just surprised so many Wii tracks (and Grumble Volcano which tbh is more recognized for Wii than Double Dash at this point) got ranked so highly
Wii is great but even Nintendo has wii bias
@@DoMorrMusicthat's because it's just a better rainbow road than 3ds
Strong MK Wii nostalgia and a sense of “tired” familiarity with MK 8DX have definitely influenced this list. Still, an interesting analysis, but some absolute bangers were paid total dust here.
Keep crying lol
@@IHitTheWaterit’s true tho lol
I love mario kart wii
I mean, popular opinion is never the end-all be-all to me. It gets which tracks are the most popular right now across the people who voted, but there's so many demographics here and so many different reasons to like or hate a track that a list like this will never satisfy everyone.
Literally how did baby park get 70TH Im shaking and crying rn 😭
There is a *LOT* of recency bias in this results... all the way to giving the first place to Wii Rainbow Road. But I guess it is natural that anyone disagrees since there are so many courses.
I am kind of intrigued to see how this results would look by taking into account what courses are voted the most frequently in online races. Nintendo probably has a more objective view of peoples opinions just by that method, that takes into account recency and all that.
So excited for Excitebike to come back as a retro track in the next Mario Kart due to it's online popularity.
Royal Raceway would be top 10 if we went by online
(And I wouldn’t be against that)
I actually did something somewhat like this for a while a couple months ago! I kept track of how many times every track got selected to race on and the most frequent one ended up being GBA Ribbon Road, being selected 16 of the 28 times it appeared (57.14%). Not exactly the same but still pretty interesting I think.
@@broshi1752You are correct! Royal Raceway is the number 1 track online. I know this because I keep track of my stats and have nearly 6000 races logged.
lol I just commented this before I saw this
You know it's a great game when even the tracks I really like are low ranked
there has to be a last place they all can't be 1st place
no it probably just means the tracks yous like are not good
@@dfunnyitc2probably not. Maybe it's just that the subscribers opinions are wrong 😂
@@MyGuyZi well you never know, maybe ole' thomas rigged everything and this is all his opinions
@@dfunnyitc2It means they aren’t as good as the best tracks in the game.
You probably should’ve waited much longer after wave 6 released to make this to mitigate any possible “ooh, shiny new wave” bias
True but video views lol
Overall there are only 3 Wave 6 maps which are rated higher than 48th place. And two of them are complete fan favourites and one just delivered very good.
There are only 3 tracks from Wave 6 that made it in the top half. 2 of those are fan favorites from a long time, and the other is a brand new track that is well done. It might've played a role but I don't think it was very noticeable
felt with Rosalina's Ice World 😬
Although this list is mostly accurate in my opinion, recency bias and nostalgia, especially MKWii nostalgia, are definitely at play. As someone studying statistics, I feel a need to mention this.
Also another facet that occurred to me here is there isn’t anything to account for 150 as opposed to 200cc here. I understand that the vast majority of players prefer 150 but as someone who plays almost exclusively 200 and has friends who also do some of these picks absolutely baffled me, but upon further inspection is a direct result on the 200vs 150 split (the easiest example I can give is in this list Rome avanti being above Madrid drive, Rome is not very smooth on 200)
It makes me wonder what a survey that takes this split into account would be like
@@nito6133 I can imagine tracks like big blue being much closer to the top of that were the case
@@joshevans3421 yeah both the F0 tracks immediately sprang to mind as shockingly low for this list, along with Piranha Plant Side. What mainly caught my eye is the tracks that would be much lower as a result, namely Wario Stadium, Ninja Hideaway, ect. Those 2 are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head that strike me as just kinda not working very well in 200 (obviously no track is made for 200 but those 2 seem poorly adjusted and thought out to the point that they just aren’t very fun on 200)
can't believe Roy studies statistics ☠☠
It would also be interesting to see which tracks were more divisive. I suspect there were a lot of people that voted 1 on MK8 rainbow road.
This list may portray everything below position 48 as "bad", but technically speaking, everything that has a score lower than the average of 2.5 would probably be considered as actually "bad". And sure enough, Number 96, 3DS Toad Circuit, is actually the only course in the game that did score lower than 2.5, having a score of 2.45, making it barely lower than average. Number 95, Bone-Dry Dunes actually managed to score slightly above average with a 2.53.
For those who'd want to only consider those with a score of 3 or higher as "good", I've got you covered there as well: Number 81, Ice Ice Outpost scored with 3.01, barely passing it, whilst Number 82, GBA Sky Garden, barely didn't with a score of 2.99.
There are only a handful of tracks in that game I'd actively consider to be "bad tracks". Probably only excitebike and some of the city tracks. MK8 really has a lot of really good tracks.
The average is 3, the options were 1-5. The average would be 2.5 if the options were 0-5
He said the bottom 25 are the worst
@@nonmagicalwitch Ah man, I like excitebike arena a lot.
Mariokart 7 is so underrated. It had so much influence on MK8 in terms of how to remake retro tracks and in general the physics and lots of other things.
Oh no
@@FaisalBashir1 💀
I can’t believe neo bowser city got in the bottom half. It’s one of my friends and I’d fave tracks in vibes alone.
YES!!!!!! In every ranking video I see for MK8, it's ranked ridiculously low. Some people straight up hate it and I can't even begin to imagine why. It's in my personal top 10, maybe even top 5. It slaps majorly
@@buttercuup02skill issues, that’s why
It's because it's the epitome of a love it or hate it track, so it being in the middle checks out
That's what I'm saying! Unfortunately this ranking would be very biased though just because of the lack of judging based on track layout, visuals, music, etc. For example neo bowser would probably be a top 10 track for me. The fact that it is 50th is most likely because of the hate for the tight ass turns which I understand makes the track hell, but also more interesting and complex! Otherwise yeah if we were judge neo bowser off of track layout which is interesting, good music, and the visuals of the city with the lights and the rain, it would easily be a track up there in at least top 20.
Tell me you played CP2077 without telling me you played CP2077
9:46 It's great to see Mount Wario place so high! It's a really unique track, and it's one of my favorites.
10:54 Waluigi's Pinball is another one of my favorites, mainly because I'm a bit of a pinball fan.
Rip Twisted Mansion and Neo Bowser City...
I'm guessing Neo Bowser City scored so low because it's such a goddamn nightmare on 200cc. It was one of the best tracks in MK7, but it just wasn't intended for high speed.
@@jasonblalock4429 Guess it's not a problem for me since I max out at 150cc. 😆
Twisted mansion was at 60
@@noahstanczak5866 Yeah, it's a shame.
@@jasonblalock4429 It's very easy on 200cc, it's just bland and boring
I am SHOCKED how many Booster Course Pass tracks were in the top 10!
yeah, especially after wave 1 but 100% agree
The Rainbow Roads, Bowser Castle 3, and Pretty much all of the Wii, GameCube and GBA Tracks are complete masterpieces
Mount Wario is the only base game track in the top 10
A lot of banger tracks, but recently bias could also influence the results.
@@MUSQUIZanimation and also Wii nostalgia, considering 4 of its tracks are in the top 10
@@goofyfish17 yeah i thought that too. i think the wii rainbow road is a really great track but i think most of the votes on this one is rooted in nostalgia
So many tracks from the bottom are tracks I love. Dolphin Shoals, Switch RR, Shroom Ridge, Berlin. I actually like Bone Dry Dunes aswell
I will never understand the hate that bone dry dunes gets, especially considering that there are other tracks that deserve it more
Me neither I don't get what makes this course bad plus it's got a banger for a course song and ots super unique among desert themed tracks
In my opinion the track doesn't flow nicely as most turns feel like you're in the wrong position and it feels like there's too many obstacles in the way but not enough space to move past them. There's no exiciting part of the track and every section feels so crammed together that it tries to mix in a lot of ideas of different turns but the turns don't feel satisfying. It feels like a tour track ported to mario kart 8 where it feels designed for a different games racing mechanics. The turns don't feel designed for karts or bikes, there's not interesting shorcuts and you feels funneled down areas that not only players get in the way but so do the walls and edges of the track like it's trying to make it a struggle to move. It's what cp_junction is to team fortress 2.
People hated it because they found it boring and interesting
Hearing these rankings I realize that most of my favorites on my tier list comes from how much I enjoy racing on the tracks and not looks like a lot of other people's. I had Mario Circut 3 and Donut Plains pretty high up in my tier list because I just loved driving on those tracks. That's also why I put New York Minute below Toad Circut because TC is just bland and a poor update but NYM is just not fun to race on and irritates me
I agree with you, and even then I find donut plain 3 very pleasing visually, I just think people don't like flat tracks with no set pieces. It's also very notable that gimmicky/themed track score extremely high on the list, best demonstrated by Yoshi Valley and Hyrule circuit, both being quite bland visually and not that interesting in term of layout but score very high purely based on concept. While I overall agree with the top rankings (outside of the wave 6 tracks which are all heavily boosted in the ranking) I find the upper middle of the ranking significantly worse than the lower part of it.
Yesss those tracks are a ton of fun to play on imo, and DEFINITELY agree on new York minute that track is very lame to play
The thing with New York is that it looks amazing, the song SLAPS, but my word, it is just way, WAY too slippery. The entire thing is an ice stage with an American coat of paint
@@artimist0315 how are Yoshi Valley and Hyrule Circuit more bland visually and less interesting in layout than SNES Mario Circuit 3? Maybe these tracks may not be the best in those departments, but certainly better than SNES Mario Circuit 3, and I get the value in having a mostly faithful recreation of an SNES track to stand out from the more gimmicky newer tracks, but Donut Plains 3 already served that purpose well, Mario Circuit 3 just doesn’t offer that much as a track in general
Also… SNES Mario Circuit 3 is way too easy of a track when put into a modern game imo
The highest placing Tour track is actually Yoshi's Island. Despite what all the marketing & technicalities will tell you, that track was created for Tour.
Also while some of the cities certainly deserved to be that low, its a shame that a bunch of the good ones placed alongside them, the bias against Tour really shows.
Squeaky Clean Sprint is also for Tour right? And I was surprised Bangkok did so poorly. I like driving in the water.
But it came out on Mario Kart 8 first.
Fr how is singapore the only one in the top half?
Would have been interesting to see how the results changed based on age of the person or which game was their first Mario kart
I think it would be better to have done a survey, but for a more general public, and not just for the most Mario Kart fans, because you can see a lot of preference for Mario Kart Wii tracks (which is not bad, but there is almost no diversity
Waluigi pinball is such a unique stage with awesome music, and I'm glad most people also seem to enjoy it
I was honestly surprised it scored this high, as well as coconut mall, both are good tracks but are such poor quality remakes, both visually and in term of gameplay. Like Waluigi pinball really lost a lot of its magic in this super out of place art style and coconut mall just look bad
It’s top tier
@@artimist0315cap asf lol they look better than ever stop glazing
It's crap
@@artimist0315Coconut Mall remake is amazing
I'm surprised Vancouver velocity wasn't the most popular city course, given how anticipated it was online
Arguably it was better in Tour when it was split into three routes as their own standalone tracks, as the route with the suspension bridge is easily the most popular of them. But in MK8 the track peaks too early in the first lap and it gets progressively worse as it goes on. Still would say it's a good one though, it just has bad pacing issues
@@jesse422 that makes me think, it would be interesting to see a video going over all of the multi section tracks and have people rank the laps in each, I'm sure TGD is tired of Mario kart at this point but it'd be neat to see 😅
@@Plumtopia agreed. I'm not a huge fan of Amsterdam Drift, but the third lap with the tulip meadow as one entire course would be a favorite of mine
@@jesse422I’m glad someone else mentioned this. If the laps were reversed (Lap 3 first; Lap 1 last), the track would’ve been so much better.
A big part of why I love it is the music. That shit slaps
it seems like a lot of the best tracks are ranked low because they either have high difficulty or no gimmicks
its like the opposite to me rainbow road on wii ranked 1 lol
2:41 imo, I think that Bone Dry Dunes is a pretty good track while being very janky to play
the music in it also goes so hard
Same
I’m kinda shocked how low on the list Sweet Sweet Canyon was, it’s one of my favorites personally
I’d like to see if these rankings would change if this data collection was done not from a poll of people just watching this channel, but from within the game itself: Across x games played online globally/regionally, make a note of the tracks that were offered up (3 tracks + random), and then measure how many people voted for each track (perhaps de-weighting them dependant on how many people voted random). From here it should be possible to work out the rankings from actual players online, across a large enough sample size, and weighted dependant on how many times each track was thrown into the vote from Nintendo’s end.
Most popular from every game:
SNES: Bowser’s Castle 3, 16th
N64: Rainbow Road, 13th
GBA: Ribbon Road, 25th
GCN: DK Mountain, 9th
DS:Waluigi Pinball, 3rd
Wii: Rainbow Road, 1st
3DS: Rainbow Road, 2nd
MK8: Mount Wario, 5th
Tour: Yoshi’s Island, 4th
MK8 Rainbow road at 54th is CRIMINAL YALL that track slaps
I think most people just find that track too hard, while Wii Rainbow Road is clouded by nostalgia.
How in the rainbow hell was ranked LOWER then SNES Rainbow Road?
@@mariajimenafigueroa233probably because of the theme
@@jomaq9233 I guess im biased because i think its one of the best themes lol
can be other reasons like its theme doesn't fit@@bingbongjoel6581
Rosalina's Ice World being above every city track is insane.
As much as i don't like the city tracks outside of singapore i gotta agree first time I saw it i thought cool fire and ice world track but the actual track is so bland
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3ds Rainbow is by far the best course in the game, SO beautiful! I'm quite sad it didn't win.
Btw what is wrong with the city tracks? Most of them look magnificent and are pretty fun to drive.
City tracks are my favorite part of 8dx 😢
I think a major part has to just do with how poorly Tour was handled, especially the monetization of it. Since cities were like the major "advertisement point" of these games, I guess people connect the two closely.
Though the small amount I've played them at a friend's place, as I don't have the DLC nor do I play MK8 very often, I feel like some of them are quite easy to get lost in, especially with the track changing with the lap. They were fine in Tour due to forced smart steering, but that's usually not used in MK8.
@@TheQuackinator I agree; having played the MK8 city tracks frequently, a few of them suffer from confusing layouts where branching paths are concerned. The giant glowing red arrows aren't the most effective guides, it turns out, and the very realistic materials for the roads and surrounding objects can sometimes make it difficult to parse from a distance what part of the track is track and what part is a sidewalk or out of bounds.
the city tracks can be confusing even after playing on them multiple times, and the first few that released were very bland, so their low standing makes sense to me
I feel the city tracks are ranked because people hated Mario Kart Tour for being a gacha game until 2022 when they removed the loot boxes
I still don't understand the hype around Waluigi Pinball, I have so many problems with the track that it's honestly surprising, specifically in 8 Deluxe
Bone Dry Dunes is my personal favorite track so I was shocked to see it be so unpopular
Yeah bone dry dunes is pretty fun
Same, unique desert track with banger music
It's one of my favourite MK8 tracks as well
It is pretty wack for me, but not bad. It was far lower than my 3 I gave.
It’s a desert with no train or explorable temple with lots of obstacles, that’s why (desert environments tend to rub people the wrong way)
I don’t exactly hate it as much as some people do, but it kinda falls under a similar boat to GCN Dry Dry Desert, it’s an okay desert-themed track, and nothing else
Out of all of these, these are my favorites:
1. N64 rainbow road
2. Toad's turnpike
3. Cheep cheep beach
4. Sherbert land
5. Mount Wario
6. Moon view highway
7. Animal crossing
That's all! :)
Here's a list of the lowest and highest rated tracks from each game (plus the new tracks in the BCP).
SNES: Mario Circuit 3 (94th) and Bowser Castle 3 (16th)
N64: Toad's Turnpike (72nd) and Rainbow Road (13th)
GBA: Sunset Wilds (89th) and Ribbon Road (25th)
GCN: Dry Dry Desert (92nd) and DK Mountain (9th)
DS: Mario Circuit (68th) and Waluigi Pinball (3rd)
Wii: Moo Moo Meadows (49th) and Rainbow Road (1st)
3DS: Toad Circuit (96th) and Rainbow Road (2nd)
Base Game: Bone-Dry Dunes (95th) and Mount Wario (5th)
Tour: Tokyo Blur (93rd) and Singapore Speedway (47th)
New BCP Tracks: Sky-High Sundae (77th) and Yoshi's Island (4th)
The fact that Wii Moo Moo Meadows is just below the top 48 just goes to show how many people love Wii. Also, if 3DS Rainbow Road was first, it would mean that MK7 has the best and worst track in MK8DX.
Also the highest ranked Tour track is Ninja Hideaway
@@goofyfish17 in the booster course pass its not labeled as a tour track, so im not counting it as one, and im counting it as a new track.
@@ampixxy ok so the tracks that debuted in Tour and aren't cities...debuted in the BCP
@@goofyfish17 no, ninja hideaway debuted in tour, but im going of the official dlc, and it has no retro label on the track unlike the city tracks which have Tour on the track name.
I'd be curious to see the most "controversial" scores - the ones with the highest variances, or the ones that received a lot of both 1's and 5's in their votes compared to the rest.
It feels like I’m one of the only people who loves Sky-High Sundae. Not only is it a beautiful course, but the constant tricks and jumps make it feel almost exhilarating. I straight up called it “delightful” after my first run of it. Also I’m shocked that Baby Park was ranked so low considering it’s typically one of the most popular tracks.
I don't love it but I really like it
I agree on Sky-High Sundae being way too low. Better than a lot of tracks that placed just right above it
I think baby park got either 0/5 or 5/5, no in between lol. I'm one of the haters to this course tbh, even if it's crazy popular
@@linhaaa same. it is the only course across all MK games that I actually hate with a fiery burning passion. Tho i can see why others would like it. I don't hate it for being poorly designed or bad, I just hate it to a comical extent and I have a very strong personal vendetta against it. Death to Baby Park
@@linhaaababy park on DD was good, because it was MKDD
on DS and 8/dx, it’s awful
Yoshi’s Island is technically the true best Tour track in 8 Deluxe since it was developed for Tour first but ported to 8 Deluxe before its Tour release. Still happy with how it turned out even if most city tracks imo are a little too low.
I’m sensing some wii bias in the top 10 😂😂
Wii reallz has the best base tracks in all of mario kart
@@omegablack_ just not true, I’d say Wii, ds, 7, and 8 are all about on par with each other, and people just have nostalgia bias from there first game.
I think 3ds is the best, considering i played mk7 myself. It has some fire tracks ngl
Twisted Mansion and Dolphins Shoals being so low is wild to me I gave them both a 5 lol
I think they are both top 15 tracks tbh along with wild woods
3ds Rainbow road deserves 1st in my opinion but I won't complain about it being 2nd.
I’m happy to say I’m one of those folks that took part in the survey, I did that while trying out every course at the same time to better give my opinions out. It was fun!
Thanks for your dedication!!
love this!!! I sadly was not aware of the survey while it lasted but I DID make my own ranking a week or 2 ago and played each course to have a fresh opinion. Such a fun time!!!
Besides 8 Deluxe, 7 has the best track selection in my opinion with exciting new tracks and remakes of fan favorites
Agreed. I would say it goes 8-7-Wii-DS. Which is ironically the release order in reverse
I've waited for this! TGD never fails to deliver!
Hope you enjoy the vid!!!! :)
@@ThomasGameDocs i did!
@ThomasGameDocs I Certainly Did!
I feel like most people who voted on this hasn’t actually played Mario kart 8d..
Took part on this survey. I can't say I agree with these results lol, some great tracks that are at the bottom...
Madrid Drive was rated Criminally low
Most of the cities were in my opinion.
I don't know if it is because of the bias there is against Tour and its tracks, but they did not deserve to be ranked lower than Baby Park.
@@BassiKun99it is bias. These kids literally can’t use critical thinking when deciding their opinions on Tour tracks.
It takes a lot of stupidity to hate tour tracks simply because you hate tour
I feel the same way about New York Minute.
Cheese Land at 74th is surely a crime. 😢
I know Tour is unpopular due to its monitization practices but I love the tracks that came from it on 8. I love that its based on cities its so cool to drive through!
Wild Woods is SUCH an enigma to me.
It is genuinely a good track.
But If I were suddenly asked to name as many Mario Kart 8 + DLC/BCP tracks as I could, I 100% guarantee I will not remember Wild Woods. It's a good track that is somehow just so super forgettable for me
I’ve gotta say, I’m surprised and sad by how low Dolphin Shoals is! I love that track! And the jazz soundtrack for it slaps!
Man, people really don't get the brilliance behind the City Tracks.
They’re kids whose mental capacity is only about thinking of gaming. They have no idea every city track has a dozen+ references
Mushroom Gorge getting rated 4.20 made me laugh.
LMAO I JUST NOTICED THAT🤣
It would be fun to do one of these based solely on the soundtrack instead of track layout or how hard it is
My first mariokart game was 7. So happy to see some of my favorite tracks get so high up!
PLEASE give the city tracks some more love, they’re all amazing
I'd suggest a top most popular characters poll just because knowing this is the last DLC this game is extremely popular at the moment.
Great video and I love, absolutely love the top half of the list, the game's last DLC tracks look amazing and play just as well!
Funky Kong gonna win that poll
@@alexandergilles8583 Also funny how this community disliked Peachette so much, yet she's probably the most popular of the bunch when you go online.
I actually think SNES Rainbow Road is one of my favorite tracks. It's just so fun to play.
The fact that Riverside Park scored higher than Vancouver Velocity...
cheese land is the most underrated course of the game.
HOW THE FUCK IS DOLPHIN SHOALS, ANIMAL CROSSING, AND THE MK8 RAINBOW ROAD SO LOW!?!?!? Also, not surprised to see Wii Rainbow Road as number one. I actually think they widened the course a tiny bit for the Switch version as I still have yet to fall off the course
Yeah. Yall are WAY out of pocket putting Bone-Dry Dunes at 95th place. It's easily one of the best tracks in the game.
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I know why Merry mountain is 51 it is because it is almost always out of season but the track looking stunning
This guys commitment is crazy. Defiantly one of my favorite youtubers.
I'm impressed how Thomas Game Docs was able to confine all this info in less than 15 minutes. Kudos to him.
i'm in shock that ice ice outpost is so low, that course is so fun!! also wow i'm surprised this came out so fast after the poll :0 nice job
edit: also yeah, i think coconut mall and the other courses ported from tour probably would've been higher if they were graphically redone. i certainly would've put them higher lol
not many people like slippery tracks, myself included. I think thats why it underperformed. Also the music and aesthetic are a bit unmemorable
I love twisted mansion, and Singapore is the best city track, I love Singapore itself aswell
This was so biased towards Wii it's insane. As a fellow MK7 fan, I'm also happy to see the _real_ best Rainbow Road make it so high up the list.
Wii has the *REAL* best Rainbow Road (In my opinion, at least)
Only a few mins into the video but Cheese Land at 74th is absolutely criminal, that map clears top 20 easily.
I feel like a lot of people ranked with huge recency bias
I'm loving the content like always, Keep up the good work Thomas.
I'm offended by how many genuinely great tracks are ranked so low
Meanwhile the Wii bias is crazy, a track could be an absolute stinker and place higher by default just by being from wii lol
This was made while players were still in the honeymoon phase of wave 6. I believe if this was made a year later after the hype dies then there might be a little bit of difference without the hype influencing it.
People really are tired of the original tracks. I remember everybody raving about Sunshine Airport, Shy Guy Falls, Toad Harbour and Electrodrome.
Royal Raceway being 56th is criminal!
I a have feeling Royal Raceway was ranked 56th because of nostalgia blind people hating it because "UGH, YOU CAN'T GO TO PEACH'S CASTLE"
that transition from n64 choco mountain to sydney sprint was clean
Guys I swear Ribbon Road should be up there, it’s so fun, and it’s intended short cuts are supper fun to do
Wii Rainbow Road's music might actually be the greatest theme ever composed for a video game. A bold claim, I know, but as a self-proclaimed VGM connoisseur I'm very serious.
"When you picture the city of Tokyo" *proceeds to show Paris*
Here are my top 5
1. Wii Rainbow Road
2. 3DS Rainbow Road
3. Bowsers Castle 3
4. Singapore Speedway
5. Big Blue
Squeaky Clean Spring is my honorable top 5 mentioned.
I’m not surprised to see so many Wii Tracks pretty high. Mario Kart Wii tracks are so good.
1. 3ds rainbow road
2. wii rainbow road
3. big blue
4. singapore speedway
5. ninja hideaway
@@NoctarYT I changed my list. I forgot Mount Wario lol.
1. Wii Rainbow Road
2. 3DS Rainbow Road
3. Mount Wario
4. Bowsers Castle 3
5. Big Blue
i have HUGE gripes with this ranking
Dude the fact that so many mk8 base tracks are in the bad ones list is so confusing to me
Y'all don't like Bone-Dry Ruins????
Nope 😘
It's my 4th favorite track
Mario Kart DS is the first video game I ever owned, so I stand strong in saying Waluigi Pinball is the best track ever and it will never be topped. It’s so nostalgic, but fundamentally it just works better than any other track.
i never understood why bone dry dunes is so disliked. the music is really good and it has the one of most unique aesthetics out of all of the desert tracks. it's quite fun in my opinion too
I am with you about this!
Can you imagine if they did Live Circuit?
*Living Room 1.*
*Kitchen 3.*
*Backyard 2.*
We could have a worse version of Squeaky Clean Sprint
*Oh wait, Tour*
@@BoredOutOfMyMIND2763 Big House
i was shocked about cheese land and royal raceway those tracks are always picked online
my personal top 10 is
1 gba ribbon road
2 mount wario
3 3ds rainbow road
4 gba cheese land
5 electrodrome
6 yoshi’s island
7 n64 royal raceway
8 3ds neo bowser city
9 gcn yoshi’s circuit
10 super bell subway
cheese land was my least favorite before the dlc and because of online it was listed as my favorite for a while in my stats >:(
cheese land was picked online because people would bag on it
Cheeeeseee Land *exciting hands*
People really voted great tracks like 3DS Neo Bowser City (Koopa City in europe) in the bottom half, and trash like 3DS Piranha Plant Pipeway in the top half
Nah dude PPS is my personal favorite. But yeah, this list ain't right.
Surprised we didn't get more battle tracks in the dlc
I get chills every time I play Wii Rainbow Road. It truly is the best track, or at least the track with the best music.
A lot of my favorites were pretty low. Cheese Land rocks, and I'm sad to see it's so low on the list. The new tracks are not nearly as quality as the old tracks.
Shocked that the Athens track isnt higher! It's my favourite of the real-world tracks because of how much it *doesn't* feel like a real world track.
also yeah, I know it's a recentcy bias thing for most but Wii Rainbow Road has the best music in the game and the way they made improvements to the original track is just *perfect*. justified top spot, even if Wii favoritism is obviously doing it favors.
What did bone dry dunes do 😭
Thomas, this video was extremely entertaining to watch! I think the community's got pretty great taste on most of the top 10! Thanks for all your hard work in editing this video.
People sleep on the snes tracks, they're the most fun to race on.
Toad Circuit is pretty bland, but saying it's worse than Bone-Dry Dunes is wild to me.
I think this entire list had a heavy Wii bias. 6 of the top 10 tracks were also in MKW (GCN DK Mountain included), and though they're all good tracks, saying that they're better than the majority of the other tracks in MK8D seems a little suspect.
This video gave some very interesting insight on the average casual player’s perspective on the game.
How did neo bowser place so low. Me and a lot of other professional mk8dx racers love this track.
Great list!
I don't know how long it took you to make it, but it would've been nice to see each track's variance, which would highlight the most polarizing tracks. Idk if that's interesting enough but I'd assume there's some interesting results (for example, people either love of HATE Baby Park)
I think a lot of people missed that a lot of good tracks were so low, because there're just so many great tracks in mk8
It was funny to see the first DLC track at the bottom of the list and the last one at the top 😂. Goes to show how much the DLC improved, I think.
FR. Perhaps Nintendo KNEW Toad circuit was ass thus putting it in early so as not to disappoint fans when putting it in much later in the DLC
*2nd
I actually really like most of the Tour city ones, they're really creative spins on real locations. I get that there are better 100% original courses and the fact they're so low doesn't entirely reflect quality overall though, it's more just "Not as good as" than "These suck" I guess.
I do agree with the Tokyo one however, it unfortunately suffered as the first city course they made.
Actually, a good chunk of my favourites are near the bottom somehow, lol. Why Merry Mountain?! Come on!
Unrelated, the best is Dino Dino jungle, sad it didn’t make it in 8
the tour tracks are just too underrated. i get some people not liking the first ones, but some of these can be quite fun, particularly the newer ones
I think it's just because they don't know these courses in details as much as the regular tracks. I agree it's a shame! Rome for instance is absolutely amazing, yet ranked way too low.
Nuh
These tracks are mostly too busy: too many details, too many different ways, always changing through laps
And usually very narrow
For me personally this tracks are absolutely not fun to play. It’s not that i don’t know the layouts. I’m not even invested in learning the layouts. Cause racing there is no fun
@@nikitashaitan9984Skill issue! And you absolutely don’t know the layouts. Stop whining and get good like the rest of us.
Dude tour tracks are some of the most popular tracks online. I wouldn't call them underrated. People love picking them.
Ice Ice Outpost and Bone Dry Dunes are INSANELY underrated! CHANGE MY MIND