The Best 2017 iMac Apple Doesn't Sell!

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
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    Parts I used:
    Intel i7-7700K CPU - snazzy.fm/7700k
    Crucial MX300 2TB SSD - snazzy.fm/mx300
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    Footnote #1: I actually bought the mid-grade model. At the time, I wasn’t sure the CPU coolers were the same across all 27” models. I have since learned that they are; so if you buy the cheapest 5K iMac, you can do all the upgrades I mention in this video without issue.
    Footnote #2: This is not an instructional disassembly video. I recommend checking the guides on iFixit. They are well illustrated-provide adequate caution and warning for tricky areas-and have a community section where people provide advice. At the time of this video, there is no updated guide for the 2017 iMac; however, it's very similar to the 2014-2015 A1419 model. The only big difference is the screw placement on the motherboard. Just take your time finding all of the screws (one is hidden through the gold hole in the middle of the board) and you'll be fine.
    Footnote #3: A little drama that wasn't included in the video is that the first time around, the CPU got bumped out of the socket when I screwed in the cooler, so the CPU wasn't seated correctly and the computer didn't boot. Upon disassembling the machine again, I saw the CPU was out of the socket and partially bent. I bent the CPU back (silicon bends easily without damaging, luckily), reinserted it into the socket, and was more careful when I tightened the CPU cooler the second time. It's easy to wiggle the CPU out of place when installing the cooler, so be careful-and if it feels too hard to tighten the CPU socket, stop-something is wrong.
    Footnote #4 - My machine's GeekBench results: browser.geekben...
    The 27" 5K iMac is a good computer for many; however, to users that want high-end specs, Apple charges way too much money. Snazzy Labs pulls apart a base model iMac, upgrades the CPU, SSD, and RAM; showing the world the best iMac that Apple doesn't sell! Get the world's best iMac configuration for $2,000 less than what Apple charges.
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  • @snazzy
    @snazzy  7 років тому +958

    This video took weeks to plan and make. Excited to finally show it to you! It turned out even better than I expected. Please let me know what you think of the new ad integration. I tried to find a happy medium for me, the brand, but most importantly; you, the viewer. Let me know if I've succeeded or what I need to work to improve. Stay snazzy!

    • @andrewksmith12
      @andrewksmith12 7 років тому +30

      I think that the ad integration is very well done. Not too obtrusive, yet informative and in-depth enough for me to be interested in the product. 10/10

    • @djsnowpdx
      @djsnowpdx 7 років тому +5

      Snazzy Labs Ad int is great!

    • @MarkyShaw
      @MarkyShaw 7 років тому +8

      Yes indeed, great job on this video. I'm not even a huge Mac fan but I love seeing your tear-downs, hacks, and upgrades.

    • @michaelchristopher8266
      @michaelchristopher8266 7 років тому +5

      Snazzy Labs i think apple uses 7700 not the 7700k which would likely explain why your cpu performs better

    • @MrShawnMitchell
      @MrShawnMitchell 7 років тому +6

      I thought the ad was perfectly fine. It wasn't too long and it showed off the features without gushing over the product. It made me want to actually try it even though I already use LastPass.

  • @granttrek1113
    @granttrek1113 7 років тому +1402

    I like this guy he uses mac because he likes it but knows how to actually build a pc, respect

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +171

      Gotta walk the walk to talk the talk. LOL. :D

    • @medpire113
      @medpire113 7 років тому +13

      Yea. Gotta respect that.

    • @bluesdealer
      @bluesdealer 7 років тому +31

      Some of us system builders just prefer sleek hardware and the OSX platform! I still build PCs, but I switched to Mac for my primary computer in '07 because Apple under Steve Jobs was pure magic. Back then, you could also customize and mod them much easier. Cook is leaving a bit to be desired in terms of value and innovation, though... :-(

    • @RabbitConfirmed
      @RabbitConfirmed 7 років тому +8

      ImmortalCoolMinecraftKidHD442 LOL you think Mac useres have no clue of building a PC... What a noob..

    • @milosjakovljevic4850
      @milosjakovljevic4850 7 років тому +16

      why would building pc be impressive? have you ever done legos? well congrats, you can build your pc

  • @Dave2D
    @Dave2D 7 років тому +1387

    SUPER cool video dude! I thought it would be awesome but this turned out even better.
    The geekbench score for your 7700k seems pretty normal to me? .. (My stock unit gives - 5782 / 20169)

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +79

      Is that on your iMac? I admittedly don't have a loaded iMac on hand, so I a) went off of the "average benchmark score" for all of the 2017 fully-loaded 7700K iMac's tested on the GeekBench browser, and b) asked a viewer with a loaded iMac to do the test (he got 18,790). Your score is pretty good; about the same as mine. I don't know why the average is so low. Software related maybe? It isn't the RAM (because I yanked that and tested with the stock kit and was just under 20,000 (so not much slower)), and as you know, thermals in GeekBench don't get anywhere near the thermal throttling ceiling, so it's not that either. I'm flummoxed. LOL.

    • @Dave2D
      @Dave2D 7 років тому +137

      ya on the 2017 iMac. it could because of my cooler ambient temps though in the office. WE CRANK DAT AC

    • @floppydisk4500
      @floppydisk4500 7 років тому +7

      Dave Lee sup Dave, didn't expect to see you here, lol.

    • @anglognzls
      @anglognzls 7 років тому +4

      Buy it, it's worth it. I used it in my undergrad as a EEE in college and will probably use it forever. It'll be one of the best investment in your life, especially if you're going into any engineering field.

    • @johndavis29209
      @johndavis29209 7 років тому +1

      Ayy Dave wassup lmao

  • @solitude335
    @solitude335 7 років тому +482

    you make the best Mac videos on UA-cam keep it up

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +27

      Thanks for the kind words! Stay snazzy! :D

    • @zishan9988
      @zishan9988 7 років тому

      i agree Quinn at its best

    • @taseenkhan5204
      @taseenkhan5204 7 років тому +1

      Mod/Tune I am PCPR (PC Peasant Race) and even I enjoy these Mac videos.

  • @courage3881
    @courage3881 6 років тому +430

    i accidently died touching the power source

  • @pikerdm7466
    @pikerdm7466 6 років тому +93

    silicon lottery only comes into play when you start overclocking, the difference in score is almost certainly coming from there 3 factors. 1: the ram you got for this mod runs at a higher speed with better timings then the ram that apple uses. 2: the Polaris GPU you have will hit a slightly higher boost clock then the GPU that was used for the stock mac test. 3: the thermal paste you used on your new 7700k is better then the stuff apple uses by default and that allows you to hold max boost clock for more time.

    • @NOrlando952
      @NOrlando952 6 років тому +8

      pike RDM I️ wouldn’t be surprised if Apple bought Lower binned chips but they use the 7700 not 7700k the k has a higher base and boost even when non overclocked so I️ think that is why

    • @SleepyFen
      @SleepyFen 6 років тому +3

      The shocking thing here is that Apple wanted more than 1000 $ for an iMac model with worse performance. Then again, maybe it's not so shocking, considering it's Apple.

    • @einarabelc5
      @einarabelc5 5 років тому

      Is there a way to switch the GPU as well?

  • @chrisdrown5866
    @chrisdrown5866 7 років тому +66

    Sometimes I watch people take apart and upgrade Apple products like this just for the thrill. One mistake and it is done forever. Exhilarating.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +25

      Once I got the screen off I was fine, but man... I was nervous with that heavy/fragile display. LOL.

  • @michaelreqd
    @michaelreqd 7 років тому +154

    plus you can use the wheel as a pizza cutter once you are done with your iMac !

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +21

      Indeed! A very, very tiny one. 😂

    • @murdochwong3346
      @murdochwong3346 6 років тому

      Snazzy Labs so one of those tiny Japanese weird things?

    • @chosenideahandle
      @chosenideahandle 6 років тому +2

      I love pizza. I'm going to take my dad's iMac apart ASAP.

    • @Plqnes
      @Plqnes 6 років тому

      😂

    • @ulogy
      @ulogy 5 років тому

      What is this, a pizza cutter for ants?

  • @maxrivera2582
    @maxrivera2582 7 років тому +290

    Why was there a gif of Linus dancing on the screen?

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +127

      Linus is quite the pretty dancer.

    • @maxrivera2582
      @maxrivera2582 7 років тому +10

      Snazzy Labs try doing a colab with him, however good luck with transportation

    • @Mcbebblestin
      @Mcbebblestin 7 років тому +1

      Why was there a gif of Linus dancing on the screen?

    • @hunterchao197
      @hunterchao197 7 років тому +6

      Why not??? I love to see a little Linus in every video!!!!!

    • @ZXTech
      @ZXTech 7 років тому +1

      Maxwell Rivera u have a typo there. I think u meant *god of pcmr

  • @stonelark
    @stonelark 7 років тому +44

    Great video, Snazzy Labs! If you're only adding a secondary drive (no CPU upgrade), you can do it without removing any circuit boards. I used this video to add drive to a late 2015 27” Retina 5K iMac (Skylake i7 4.0 GHz), with only 256GB flash SSD factory-installed. The drive-only shopping list is: drive bay adapter, OWC heat sensor (which came with monitor adhesive), SATA data/power cable, and ifixit pizza knife. You only need to remove the left speaker and fan to access the motherboard SATA data and power connections. Reach underneath the edge of the board, and press in the cable connectors (use a small mirror). Route the cable behind the fan mount stands, to the new drive. You may need to loosen and move the right speaker to access the bay mounting screws unless you have tiny-trump hands.

    • @balasomokashi1291
      @balasomokashi1291 6 років тому

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    • @Mainyehc
      @Mainyehc 5 років тому +1

      Indeed, but seeing how just opening the damn thing in the first place is such a hassle (and a one-time operation, unless you're willing to waste sticker sets), isn't it wiser to just gut the entire thing and swap as many internal components as necessary and possible? Plus, Apple's thermal paste application (and quality) is usually crap (as you can see from the video; it's spread all over the place, even outside of the copper part of the heatsink, and extremely dry even when new); even if you weren't swapping the CPU, replacing said paste whenever you have the chance is just good practice.

    • @nealjweinstein
      @nealjweinstein 5 років тому

      hey can i email you? i have a nice project on my hands

    • @yellowchartreuse
      @yellowchartreuse 5 років тому

      He replaced the stock internal drive or ADDED a 2nd internal drive? It's not clear.

  • @elijahcorpus3
    @elijahcorpus3 5 років тому +26

    5:37 The loaded 5K iMac 27" actually uses an i7 7700, not a 7700K. The K really just means it's good for overclocking, but macOS has quite limited overclocking ability, it doesn't matter.

    • @jose9th
      @jose9th 5 років тому +3

      Not sure why he bought the unlocked version...he could have saved some more money by going with 7700 non-k.

  • @oscardavidsg
    @oscardavidsg 7 років тому +25

    Great ad integration, great video and great memes 10/10

  • @danielnicolas69
    @danielnicolas69 7 років тому +229

    You are probably the best Mac peasant online

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +109

      Thank you!
      Love,
      Mac Peasant

    • @Mushehpee10
      @Mushehpee10 7 років тому +1

      *Mac Metaphorical Peasant

    • @curt8806
      @curt8806 7 років тому

      I accidentally bought ddr 2800. will it work?

    • @TsvetanVR
      @TsvetanVR 7 років тому

      not at 2800 atleast

  • @FrenchieFries
    @FrenchieFries 6 років тому +6

    If I had $3000 and needed a new Mac I would probably do the same thing tbh. It should be much harder than just building a pc, just need to be careful with that display

  • @MicBergsma
    @MicBergsma 5 років тому +13

    Interesting...one day I will try this 🤙🏼

  • @rigas472
    @rigas472 7 років тому +121

    Apple after watching this video be like, Oh you SOB we will make our next iMac much slimmer and CPU soldered to motherboard, RAM soldered to motherboard and then sit there waiting for your video.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +27

      +Rigas Doddi Please no. Lol

    • @rigas472
      @rigas472 7 років тому

      Snazzy Labs I wish no.

    • @nazarm6215
      @nazarm6215 7 років тому

      Rigas Doddi they would solder it because it’s making the laptop thinner. Complain about the size. Thinner iMac= soldered on ram

    • @AlexMkd1984
      @AlexMkd1984 6 років тому

      Rigas Doddi crapple dont make none product dumb shit

    • @annahgarcia9689
      @annahgarcia9689 6 років тому

      wtf

  • @Sithhy
    @Sithhy 7 років тому +170

    "Using that cheap 1440p monitor"
    I can't even afford a 1080p one by myself... Wanna send me it? *LOL*

    • @HappySlappyFace
      @HappySlappyFace 7 років тому

      CDLLBOSS Lee I can have that

    • @user-wj7sm9bm6p
      @user-wj7sm9bm6p 7 років тому +1

      Still requires an ISP. Unless using free wifi. I can get 1080p displays for around $50

    • @bluesdealer
      @bluesdealer 7 років тому

      Depends on if you want a 1080p worth having, guys. Sure, they are cheap, but the ones with accurate color/contras, pixel performance, and refresh rate can cost a decent amount.

    • @ChristianStout
      @ChristianStout 7 років тому +1

      Get a job.

    • @ImplantedMemories
      @ImplantedMemories 7 років тому

      Christian Stout
      I have a 1680x1050 monitor
      Still runs strong since 9 years
      1080p 144Hz isn't a worth jump for me so i will keep my monitor 15 years or so until 2k / 4k 144Hz get affordable. That means mid grade gpu like a 1060 for 250 bucks should be good enough to Run a 300$ 1440p Monitor with 144 Hz
      So total 550$ for nearly ultra gaming 1440p 144hz.
      Today a 1070 alone is 400 $
      And the monitor is 530 $
      Thats overpriced as fuck

  • @zollotech
    @zollotech 7 років тому +67

    Well done and worth the wait!

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +8

      +zollotech Thanks Aaron!

  • @marksapollo
    @marksapollo 5 років тому +1

    You’ve actually inspired me with this video. This will be cheaper then a Mac Pro setup but still very fast. And with that little wheel it’s not as hard to take apart as I thought..

  • @mctvr
    @mctvr 5 років тому +14

    Now:
    Apple: Hey Quinn, do you want to spend 5 grands for an iMac Pro
    Quinn: YAS!!

  • @CubeCraft1997
    @CubeCraft1997 7 років тому +31

    Hands down my favorite tech channel. No clickbait, well edited, quality content. This is the only channel I actually watch all the ads for.
    Stay Snazzy!

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +5

      CubeCraft1997 Thank you!

  • @chriskendall3388
    @chriskendall3388 7 років тому +415

    go to the apple store and load these kinda videos up on all their computers just to piss them off

    • @kimjongoof5000
      @kimjongoof5000 6 років тому +15

      Tried that and nobody gave a shit

    • @TopHatProductions115
      @TopHatProductions115 6 років тому +17

      Go to an Apple store with a hacintosh - that'll annoy them :)

    • @rohangokoel7755
      @rohangokoel7755 6 років тому +7

      Just AirDrop it 😂

    • @boofney6123
      @boofney6123 6 років тому +9

      or go to the apple store with some petrol and burn it down

    • @willie2843
      @willie2843 6 років тому +3

      Thanks doing this tommorow. Last week me and My buddies went and turned off every device in an Optus store

  • @TheTransformerCrazed
    @TheTransformerCrazed 7 років тому +12

    Linus Dancing was Hilarious!

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +2

      OH YEAH!

  • @woogaloo
    @woogaloo 6 років тому

    I did this recently to my 2012 iMac. My hard drive died so I decided to switch it with a SSD and upgrade the CPU. I didn’t grab the OWC cable but haven’t had any issues with my fan. Great video!

  • @annisasabrina8259
    @annisasabrina8259 7 років тому

    i love the fact that he uses mac and not being a fanboy over it like most people but likes to compare it to the pc he build himself. literally the best mac channel. well done

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому

      +McCallaghan Existed Cheers!

  • @insidebyte8561
    @insidebyte8561 7 років тому +147

    Apple use the 7700 not the 7700k which has higher clocks as well as overclocking :)

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +66

      They use the 7700 in the base high-end configuration, but they use the 7700K in the loaded configuration. With Kaby Lake, the K variant is clocked 700 MHz higher even without OC, so Apple just runs the unlocked CPU at base-clock.

    • @avon9447
      @avon9447 7 років тому +12

      #kabylakegate

    • @stephen_l1474
      @stephen_l1474 7 років тому +17

      Snazzy Labs is it possible that Apple use some terrible thermal paste which makes the temperature so high so it throttles and lead to some performance decrease

    • @hugoharington263
      @hugoharington263 7 років тому

      Why would you overclock a CPU that's basically in a laptop? I think that's a big waste of money.

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 7 років тому +4

      +Stephen _L_S Apple is known for shyte thermal paste and fans that prematurely wear out.

  • @16by95
    @16by95 7 років тому +10

    You created a great content this time, I can't really describe how much I loved this, the Idea, the concept and the way you presented. Just everything is completely beautiful in my opinion. Best 8 minutes I spend it on a youtube video for a while.
    Thank you 😊

  • @adamkija6895
    @adamkija6895 5 років тому +135

    "my cheap 1440 p monitor"
    1080p gang where you at

    • @AyanAimal
      @AyanAimal 5 років тому +12

      lol 1080p peasants, don't know nothing about 360p

    • @user-zb7vm3om6p
      @user-zb7vm3om6p 5 років тому +6

      480p crt gang where you at

    • @jamesjacob9632
      @jamesjacob9632 5 років тому +2

      @cgwworldministries show me where please I need one

    • @ericland9865
      @ericland9865 4 роки тому +2

      240p gang

    • @noahsduck4109
      @noahsduck4109 4 роки тому

      720 gang where u at?

  • @theomitrentsis
    @theomitrentsis 6 років тому

    My HP z820 hackintosh (bought refurbished for 990 euros) runs circles around this imac. It's also rock solid and completely functional.

  • @Starringo58
    @Starringo58 6 років тому

    They did everything they could to keep people from upgrading and you pulled a MacGuyver on 'em. I'm officially a fan!!!

  • @fobspock2846
    @fobspock2846 7 років тому +430

    now you can use the extra 1800$ you saved to buy a pc

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +84

      I've already got too many of those. LOL.

    • @fobspock2846
      @fobspock2846 7 років тому +30

      Snazzy holy shit I love your channel, thanks for replying

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +43

      Sure thing. Thanks for watching! Stay snazzy. :D

    • @NikilanRz
      @NikilanRz 7 років тому +7

      You cam build an 8core Ryzen w/RX580 for those $1800

    • @TsvetanVR
      @TsvetanVR 7 років тому +1

      Nope, but the extra could be spent on eGPU case and a quiet overclocked AIO cooled 1080Ti to bring the performance at native resolution from 0 to Average.

  • @nathanricketts2415
    @nathanricketts2415 7 років тому +27

    Pfft, should be called the "Diymac"

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +13

      That's the nickname I've chosen for it, but it's an SEO nightmare so I decided against it for the title/thumbnail. LOL.

  • @Food4thought1234
    @Food4thought1234 7 років тому +51

    "Removing this part can cause serious bodily harm, or even death!! But don't worry, just touch the edges and you'll be fine".... Haha,, ok,, that's a no for me.

    • @Deadlyaztec27
      @Deadlyaztec27 7 років тому +1

      Richard Andrews
      Just get some insulated gloves if you're really worried about it

    • @iamDave0071
      @iamDave0071 7 років тому +2

      How can you die from touching it when it isn't hooked on electricity? (Serious question)
      Is there still somehow a current?

    • @ondra30
      @ondra30 7 років тому

      All that had to be added was discharge the caps before handling this board. ;)

    • @hispanicbaljeet4076
      @hispanicbaljeet4076 7 років тому +1

      kifla420 makes sense. I was wondering too and never thought of capacitors.

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo 6 років тому +2

      if you're scared, unplug the thing from the socket it and then hold the power button pressed for 10 second before even starting to open the monitor frame. that should discharge any remaining power on capacitors

  • @stevens6654
    @stevens6654 5 років тому +4

    If I had the skills and know-how, I’d follow your advice and upgrade a base 2017 iMac. It’s easy, right? Just follow the instructions, and in two hours, you have a machine that will last for years. Unfortunately, for most of us, your miracle upgrade would result in an SSD that doesn’t boot, and a fan that doesn’t quit, ever. Maybe I can invite you over for pizza and beer, and maybe you can do it for me? Ya’ think that’s a possibility? I’d put in a thumbs-up for your sponsor. Maybe you can make my request into a special remote video!!!

    • @HelloKidney.
      @HelloKidney. 4 роки тому

      It's really not that complicated. I just helped a buddy if mine to upgrade his 8GB RAM too 32GB and HDD to an SSD.

  • @danmastellotto9862
    @danmastellotto9862 6 років тому

    I bought the same computer and basically did the same thing. I had never seen this video until much later. I didnt go so far as to install the i7. Too scary. The reason I also did this was because the HDD in the iMac was WAY TOO slow and completely outdated when I purchased my 2017 iMac. The only reason I purchased this computer is because of the Retina screen. Still one of the best. Thanks for the video! Enjoyed it. Maybe one day Ill get around to installing the i7-7700k. But just installing a SSD made the computer MUCH faster and usable. Please keep the Vids coming. Two Thumbs up!

    • @MarloDellAntonio
      @MarloDellAntonio 6 років тому

      So, did you buy a fusion and replace it with the SSD-- or Apple's SSD, then... add another SSD? I don't understand why someone would even pay Apple's price for a small SSD, if they were just going to replace it with another third party SSD. Why not get a fusion drive then take that out? Isn't that cheaper?

  • @Andru
    @Andru 7 років тому +8

    BRB sending you my iMac to perform surgery on 🖥 - oh wait, I paid for top of the line everything except the RAM 😭😭😭

  • @nitrowad
    @nitrowad 7 років тому +43

    Did you compare the thermals? Maybe Apple uses cheap thermal paste?

    • @NOrlando952
      @NOrlando952 6 років тому +4

      nitrowad I️ think Apple uses the 7700 not 7700k

    • @kcbrads
      @kcbrads 6 років тому

      actually it does intel bins the K's higher because they do over clock the differences small yes but there is one.

    • @jamestor6700
      @jamestor6700 6 років тому

      then why go with a K series cpu? that just doesn't make any sense to me other then the bragging rights that it has a 7700k

    • @shannonHWryan
      @shannonHWryan 6 років тому

      nitrowad Came here to say that. Apple is notorious for using cheap thermal paste that dries out and kills the GPUs. I rebuilt an Air, and adding Arctic Silver made a big difference. Fan never runs past 50%.

  • @startedtech
    @startedtech 7 років тому +29

    hey, you did the :O face!
    (Liked the new ad integration, as well)

    • @SJ-dm1ls
      @SJ-dm1ls 7 років тому

      Sam T second that

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +10

      Glad to hear it. Thanks for watching, guys!

  • @Yuusharo
    @Yuusharo 7 років тому

    One correction that may or may not have been pointed out. Mac display resolution in the System Information window shows the logical resolution, not the actual resolution. Those Mac Pros are, indeed, running at 5k 5120x2880, with a logical retina 2x resolution of 2560x1440.
    So yes, they are running 5k on the UltraFine 5k displays. Just wanted to correct that for anyone that was confused. A retina Mac may say 1440p, but that's logical, not actual, resolution.

  • @pierbover
    @pierbover 6 років тому +1

    Nice video! The difference in performance could be because you added a better thermal paste which allowed the CPU to run longer without being throttled or maybe run TB for a longer time.

  • @cheeriy0740
    @cheeriy0740 7 років тому +26

    This may be a stupid question but could that poor performance of Apple's top-of-the-line iMac possibly be due to the thermal paste/grease that Apple used?

    • @avon9447
      @avon9447 7 років тому +1

      🤔

    • @cheeriy0740
      @cheeriy0740 7 років тому +1

      Reminds me, I need to reseat the thermal material on my MacBook Pro. lel.

    • @adamsaint2890
      @adamsaint2890 7 років тому

      That's quite feasible due to the turbo boost function being disabled if the CPU gets too hot. So better thermal paste might transfer heat more efficiently. Downside of this might be that the more heat the CPU is able to dump into the cooler, the less temp differential is available to cool the GPU, so you might find that the GPU throttles more quickly in workloads that stress GPU and CPU.
      I don't think that there are "runt" 7700K's given to Apple though. At or below their max turbo clock, they should all perform the same. The silicon lottery applies to anything above max turbo which won't be applicable here.

    • @nerfinator03
      @nerfinator03 7 років тому +1

      Adam Saint someone in the comment mentioned apple using 7700 and not 7700k like he is

  • @tipoomaster
    @tipoomaster 7 років тому +4

    You can actually set up a fusion drive with two SSDs, and it'll manage hot blocks better than a human!

  • @imgoodatvideos6710
    @imgoodatvideos6710 7 років тому +26

    Woah tempting

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +27

      +AppleMacsterRace lol your username.

  • @smoore69
    @smoore69 6 років тому

    This is excellent. 15K likes and 595 trolls downvoting a free video from someone trying to help them for no reason at all. Great video. Kudos, and thank you.

  • @woolyimage
    @woolyimage 3 роки тому +2

    Apples BTO upgrade prices are insane. It was a lot easier to do diy on the older macs

  • @jacobsmith5006
    @jacobsmith5006 7 років тому +5

    about the display not running 5k on the LG thing I'm pretty sure that it's impossible to run 5k without thunderbolt 3 or hdmi 3.0 or whatever display port version it is so they couldn't run it at 5k on iMac

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +8

      It's correct that you'd need DisplayPort 1.4. Mac Pro only has DisplayPort 1.3, but two 5K monitors from Dell and HP allow you to use two cables to get 5K. Apple and LG could have done it, but two cables to run one monitor is against Apple's design philosophy. LOL.

    • @jacobsmith5006
      @jacobsmith5006 7 років тому

      Snazzy Labs oh my bad thanks for correcting me. I love the build

  • @matttheman4331
    @matttheman4331 7 років тому +5

    You finally finished it

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +8

      Indeed. The weeks of planning paid off. It's performing marvelously!

    • @matttheman4331
      @matttheman4331 7 років тому

      Snazzy Labs have a great day

  • @muhammad.raw.1403
    @muhammad.raw.1403 7 років тому +4

    new ad integration it's very good

  • @chuckzone3000
    @chuckzone3000 7 років тому

    Don't need $40 cable for heat sensor, just install SSD Fan Control and it handles the fan speed automatically for you based on the system temp.

  • @Fallen_Zen
    @Fallen_Zen 7 років тому

    Well I did install SATA SSD to my brand new iMac (alongside the NVMe 512GB SSD) at Apple's Authorized Service Provider and I did not loose warranty.

  • @MIDO2802
    @MIDO2802 7 років тому +5

    What a great youtuber!

  • @yatheesh999
    @yatheesh999 5 років тому +5

    Can you try upgrading 2017 7th gen cpu's to 8th or 9th gen cpu's as 2019 imac's are out with 9th gen cpu's without any changes so it could be easy swap and huge performance upgrade!.

    • @lux-pro
      @lux-pro 5 років тому

      Yatheesh Yashasvi I have the same question. I think the socket may have changed for the 9th gen. But maybe the 8700K would be possible, borrowing software compatibility from the 2019 iMac 21”.

    • @yatheesh999
      @yatheesh999 5 років тому

      @@lux-pro even 9th gen i5 use same 1151 socket so physically its possible for 27' imac 8gb gpu.
      No one knows exactly until someone takes risk!

    • @lux-pro
      @lux-pro 5 років тому

      Snazzy Labs be our hero!

  • @notcarlos7551
    @notcarlos7551 6 років тому +6

    Quinn!
    A perfect update to this amazing video would be an updated 6 core CPU like the i7 8700k!!!

    • @danishdezembro1116
      @danishdezembro1116 6 років тому

      Brandon Chapman *Motherboard

    • @CheapBastard1988
      @CheapBastard1988 6 років тому

      Does Apple support intel coffeelake?I thought they were still stuck on kabylake and skylake-x.

  • @likwidflame
    @likwidflame 4 роки тому

    This is awesome. I just got an old iMac Pro from 2012. I'm seeing what mods I can do to it. All I'm using it for is music, not even video. Should be fun!

  • @MFG9000
    @MFG9000 6 років тому

    The reason your Core i7 7700K outperforms Apple's similar offering is the thermal paste you're using. It allows you to hold on to your Boost/Turbo clocks for a longer duration which can yield better results.

  • @pixelpatrick
    @pixelpatrick 6 років тому +33

    Is it possible that the maxed out iMac is that much slower because Apple throttles their hardware so it doesn't overheat? After all there is only the one fan.
    For example, a lot of phones have batteries that could be charged longer, but they have cutoffs to stop them from becoming dangerous and exploding (with the exception of that one phone *cough cough*)

    • @vismortis
      @vismortis 6 років тому +1

      One thought is, they want to at the top end ($5000+) for the maxed out iMac want to drive you to the iMac Pro which while still $5000 is cheaper and has more power.

    • @InB4Ethan
      @InB4Ethan 6 років тому +6

      all the parts he replaced can be used in any pc. not the case.

    • @theprofessor3339
      @theprofessor3339 6 років тому +10

      Patrick Wilson With all that empty space inside the machine and the price they're charging for it, it's still the shittiest business practice I've ever heard.

    • @MattTolbertMedia
      @MattTolbertMedia 6 років тому +3

      Business practice has to do with sales and profit, they certainly make a lot of profit and have lots of loyal customers, so I would have to argue that they're doing something right there haha!

    • @Rettro404
      @Rettro404 5 років тому +1

      My iPhone 6 blew up

  • @jpsleepwalker8
    @jpsleepwalker8 7 років тому +9

    Do you think the new Coffee Lake 8700K (same LGA 1151 socket...but different chipset) that will be released in about week and half will work w/ the 2017 iMac?

    • @chosenideahandle
      @chosenideahandle 6 років тому +3

      No, won't work.

    • @yatheesh999
      @yatheesh999 5 років тому

      snazy labs should try this, as new 2019 iMac are out with 9600 i5 units with same old specs its possible to upgrade old 2017 7600 i5 imac to new processor..

  • @SethiestSeth
    @SethiestSeth 7 років тому +57

    LOL😂 When Quinn builds better Macs then Apple!

    • @AlexMkd1984
      @AlexMkd1984 6 років тому

      The Master crapple dont bulid mac dumb shit foxcon bulid it you are stupid as fick that why apple love stupid people like you

    • @nopparuj
      @nopparuj 6 років тому +4

      Aleksandar be together not the same
      Are you mad? lol.

    • @junhaowang1834
      @junhaowang1834 6 років тому

      It's not better, the CPU is prone to overheat in such small space with the mediocre cooling, Apple lower the clock speed probably to prevent this problem.

    • @jamestor6700
      @jamestor6700 6 років тому

      its not a lowered clock speed, its running at stock

  • @trevwagner666
    @trevwagner666 7 років тому

    you are literally the best kind of apple fan

  • @chickenwing986
    @chickenwing986 6 років тому +2

    This is one of my favorite tech videos, I love Snazzy Labs!

  • @israchido5708
    @israchido5708 6 років тому +5

    OMG he is becoming smart.

  • @nikhilfriedman9324
    @nikhilfriedman9324 7 років тому +27

    But can it run crysis?

    • @juhotuho10
      @juhotuho10 7 років тому

      the graphics card he has (AM Radeon PRO 575) is comparable to GTX 780 (www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2969/radeon-pro-575 benchmark scores) so i wouldn't say that even the 4,000$ machine can run crysis

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +10

      Yes, but quite poorly.

    • @Yonderford
      @Yonderford 7 років тому +1

      Quite poorly at what resolution though? 5k? The GPU itself is not bad, but paired with a 5k display, it'll obviously struggle so would any equivalent GPU I would imagine. I'm sure that iMac is perfectly capable of running games at 1080p, which is still full HD.

    • @8BitParadise
      @8BitParadise 7 років тому +4

      No it's a mac. Can't do shit

    • @mkultrasoldier
      @mkultrasoldier 7 років тому

      8 Bit Paradise Learn before you speak OK.?

  • @mobilecarlos
    @mobilecarlos 7 років тому +7

    Loved the video Snazzy makes me want an iMac now lol

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +3

      That's high praise from you. LOL. 💙

  • @MrDjcamo29
    @MrDjcamo29 7 років тому

    It's funny that the commercial that I cannot skip before the video was for the new galaxy tab S3 lol 😂

  • @myflorin25
    @myflorin25 4 роки тому +1

    That was a Snazzy upgrade my friends by a Snazzy guy in a Snazzy lab .

  • @sergiomayoral
    @sergiomayoral 6 років тому +3

    Hi ! I have a fusion drive iMac, instead of replacing the hdd drive I would like to replace the ssd for an original and high Gb storage, my model is 5k 2015. What's the name of the original ssd that is sell with the iMac? Can I find it or have I got to find another brand ? Is it going to work perfectly ?
    Please help me :)
    Nice video

  • @alxxxnder2
    @alxxxnder2 3 роки тому +3

    Your mic stops working after you do the bottom tape if you don’t be careful and cut an opening. And don’t press the bottom too hard at first. But you will want to secure the adhesive. Don’t want a $1000 accident.

  • @andy91342
    @andy91342 7 років тому +11

    Is it worth skipping the other video card options on the higher Imac
    base: Radeon Pro 570 with 4GB of VRAM
    Mid: Radeon Pro 575 with 4GB of VRAM
    High: Radeon Pro 580 with 8GB of VRAM

    • @edgyyoutuberuser5991
      @edgyyoutuberuser5991 6 років тому +3

      why would you ever buy an iMac?

    • @tattoobillyvon9764
      @tattoobillyvon9764 6 років тому

      edgy youtuber user I am tomorrow and will love it.

    • @MattTolbertMedia
      @MattTolbertMedia 6 років тому +10

      If you watch any video about the 2017 iMac's you would understand, as explained in this video the 5K screen is almost impossible to buy elsewhere and if you can find it it's outrageously expensive, additionally the proprietary NVME SSD technology in these Mac's is some of the fastest you can currently buy- if you look into buying the same speed PCIe SSD for your Windows machine it is actually about $40 cheaper to get the upgrade from Apple than from a different company. Additionally, if you buy the base amount of ram and upgrade it yourself, which is allowed by apple through a port on the back, then you dont have to pay double the price for Apple's RAM. All in all it is almost impossible to mimic the exact specs of the iMac if you do those things mentioned above with a comparable PC including the price of the monitor. Sure, you could just not get a 5K screen and save boatloads of money, but that isn't the point of the apples to apples argument.

    • @jamestor6700
      @jamestor6700 6 років тому +1

      the difference between 4k and 5k are going to be small to non-existent

    • @MarloDellAntonio
      @MarloDellAntonio 6 років тому +1

      Are you suggesting that the PCIe SSD's that Apple sells with their iMac's are better than, say a Crucial SSD you could install separately? Is it worth losing your warranty to buy a base model with a fusion drive, then rip out the fusion drive and add a 1-2TB SSD for cheaper?

  • @jonminuto5242
    @jonminuto5242 5 років тому +3

    "Wild, isn't it?" Well said.

  • @TsvetanVR
    @TsvetanVR 7 років тому

    Loved it! My type of project.
    But since we're into voiding warranties and serious upgrading, I'd go all-out and delid the 7700K, apply Conductonaut liquid metal on it and put the lid back, put kapton tape around the gpu/memory/vrm and put liquid metal on them as well, so the SINGLE cooling fan can enjoy better working conditions and more rest. :)

  • @wwazman
    @wwazman 5 років тому +9

    instead of buying that $40 drive cable, just use ssd fan control! free app!

    • @samtam8771
      @samtam8771 5 років тому +1

      Lol It doesn't work it's a encrypted protocol and the app only works for the old version of osx actually like very old versions of osx

  • @LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS
    @LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS 5 років тому +3

    "but if you don't touch the death board wrong, you gucci."

  • @dakheelalmutairi2715
    @dakheelalmutairi2715 6 років тому +26

    How will you overclock on a not z series motherboard?

    • @fast.biking_freddy
      @fast.biking_freddy 6 років тому +1

      you cant

    • @ilanzatonski8826
      @ilanzatonski8826 6 років тому

      U w0t m8? The price difference today is 8$

    • @jamestor6700
      @jamestor6700 6 років тому

      no its not

    • @XepptizZ
      @XepptizZ 6 років тому +2

      U w0t m8? The K series is still clocked higher by default, has better quality and thus will turbo higher aswell.

    • @RMSLusitania
      @RMSLusitania 6 років тому

      UnknownPlayer their fit perfectly fit the word which is "MOTHERboard"

  • @Xaltar_
    @Xaltar_ 7 років тому

    Better temps from decent thermal compound is probably responsible for the higher scores. Turbo will kick in more with better thermals and make quite a large difference overall. The cooling in those things is always atrocious, every little thing you can do to help it along will help both performance and longevity. I love Mac designs but not the proprietary BS and pricetag that come with them.

  • @BeatSmithTV
    @BeatSmithTV 4 роки тому

    I'm so glad this video exists

  • @floydpackard2466
    @floydpackard2466 7 років тому +4

    But you didn’t add dedicated graphics...😢

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +3

      +Floyd Packard There is a dGPU inside, but no, I didn't add one externally. For reason! Lots of issues on the iMac so far.

    • @floydpackard2466
      @floydpackard2466 7 років тому +3

      Snazzy Labs gotcha! Can you add or replace a dGPU to an iMac internally? Is that even possible?

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +2

      Not unless you swap out the entire motherboard. And guess what the most expensive part of the machine is? Yeah... :(

    • @jonathantable1316
      @jonathantable1316 7 років тому

      You can use a thunderbolt GPU enclosure such as a razer core. It requires some handy work in terminal (modding the OS) but it does work. Also Nvidia has recently released macOS drivers for the 10xx series cards. So that's an option to consider in the future.

    • @8BitParadise
      @8BitParadise 7 років тому

      Buy a pc

  • @djsnowpdx
    @djsnowpdx 7 років тому +6

    Wait! So if you buy an SSD config, there is room for another drive in the iMac?

    • @dwalster7538
      @dwalster7538 7 років тому

      Mark Davenport That's what I was asking me too!

    • @micahfocht
      @micahfocht 7 років тому +1

      Mark Davenport Yeah, there's room, but you need the cable and sensor, since it won't be in the machine if you buy an SSD.

  • @cristiansava7056
    @cristiansava7056 7 років тому +37

    It is true that you lose the warranty but you can buy another iMac for 1800$

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  7 років тому +9

      +CRISTIAN SAVA Yep!

    • @code_red7744
      @code_red7744 6 років тому +1

      I would just put it back the way it came and take a chance

    • @MrDragonorp
      @MrDragonorp 5 років тому

      Yeah ,and get the parts that are not broken into the new imac,and the price of part replacement if needed probably will cost less the to fix the computer even with warranty.

    • @alexmawdsley
      @alexmawdsley 5 років тому +2

      Opening the machine does not void the warranty. This kind of misinformation is annoying at best

  • @barneybarney3982
    @barneybarney3982 5 років тому +2

    6:18 this silicon lottery aply only if you OC, without it all 7700k run exactly the same... unless apple's default 7700k is real silicon lottery loss and it overheats as hell and underclock.

  • @wright96d
    @wright96d 4 роки тому +1

    It's really interesting to see how your accent has evolved since Bolivia. It didn't transform over night. There's still a tinge of Spanish Quinn here, even three years out.
    Edit: It just occurred to me that you might not like when people point these things out. Am I being an asshole?

    • @itslucasyap
      @itslucasyap 4 роки тому

      That is interesting observation about Quinn, that's cool if you ask me.

  • @vicentcarro
    @vicentcarro 6 років тому +3

    Is it possible to 2nd upgrade cpu to 8700k technically?

    • @griffin8062
      @griffin8062 6 років тому

      no

    • @1stfloorguy59
      @1stfloorguy59 6 років тому

      Different board is needed. There are some articles of people saying if you can program board bios your self and figure out the pin change/layout which is exactly the same but certain pins where converted to power distribution or changed to a different job. So if you knew what you where doing and spend 100 hours tinkering you may be able to get it to runing. In all honesty though it would be wasted effort 7700k is near the performance of 8700 minus core count

    • @CheapBastard1988
      @CheapBastard1988 6 років тому +1

      1stfloorguy Don't forget the imac's pityfull cooler could never cool down an 8700k at load so per core performance would suffer.

    • @bakatobijuu
      @bakatobijuu 6 років тому

      Vincent Ryu Nope apple will never put i7 8700K in iMac doesn't have good cooler so the cores would be die in while use it in long time at 80 -70C
      There is no 2018 iMac with Intel 8th generation sorry

  • @Nino-ui8sy
    @Nino-ui8sy 7 років тому +13

    Should have been called the "DiyMac"

  • @askhowiknow5527
    @askhowiknow5527 6 років тому +7

    i7-7700k?
    They sell 8th-gens already lol

    • @AlecDenston
      @AlecDenston 5 років тому +2

      This was before the 8th gen

  • @WarthogARJ
    @WarthogARJ 5 років тому

    And to get almost as snazzy an upgrade you could use a 1TB SSD and less RAM (32GB) for quite a bit less $$$, but not so much difference in performance. I do like what you did: very nice. And what is very nice was you DO have options.

  • @kosmos3718
    @kosmos3718 6 років тому

    Could someone look into modifying more of it, other than just upgrading yourself? Like get rid of the speakers, upgrade fan system. Maybe add extra things.

  • @DogerBeaner
    @DogerBeaner 4 роки тому +3

    Now apple wants 1000 for a stand
    *A STAND*

  • @gandikha
    @gandikha 7 років тому +14

    Can I use a Intel i7 8700K on this Imac?

    • @cortex6065
      @cortex6065 6 років тому +2

      Alberto Gandica no

    • @junhoson1462
      @junhoson1462 6 років тому

      Try

    • @JailerGamer
      @JailerGamer 6 років тому +2

      Junho Son no cuz the socket isint the same

    • @cortex6065
      @cortex6065 6 років тому +4

      The socket is the same but Intel decided not to support it, something about powerdeleivery they sayd

    • @JailerGamer
      @JailerGamer 6 років тому +2

      Cortex 8700k uses 1151-2 wich has a diffrrent pin layout

  • @copiryte9535
    @copiryte9535 6 років тому +5

    the truth they all run on 1440p

  • @scrooge0
    @scrooge0 5 років тому

    I did this with my 2014 27 iMac and was gonna shell out money for the OWC temp cable but I didn't need it! I pulled out the drive, purchased the new SSD (Samsung 860 Evo) and plugged it in to test. Surprising there was no jet noise from the fans and I tried some games and still no issues. I think the $40 OWC cable is a rip-off or at least only necessary for older iMac.s

  • @talin3
    @talin3 4 роки тому

    Quinn - how do you make this look so easy!?!? A word of warning - I'm fairly experienced with taking iMacs apart and my attempt at this was a total failure. Only 1 LED showing and a long list of things to troubleshoot! Hopefully not a dead iMac.

  • @benjypoli
    @benjypoli 6 років тому

    Just noticed you have gospel Library on your S8! That's sick! I love seeing I'm not the only Mormon Tech UA-camr on the web!

  • @gerardrossiter799
    @gerardrossiter799 5 років тому

    Hi I build custom pcs mostly as more of a hobby... A few years back I became curious about apple products , so I got on eBay and bought a bunch of older iMacs to repair speed up...It was quite an experience I lost a lot of respect for Apple, Anyways just wanted to say I really enjoyed your video and your build... I think you did a fantastic job.

  • @GenieCommands
    @GenieCommands 5 років тому

    I am a tech, I try to avoid removing customers motherboards, mostly to remove the pesky 85gb-128gb if your lucky of SSD drive thats part of their 2tb/3tb fusion drive (just ugly and slow), as the surface mounted components and motherboard are notoriously fragile, don't bend or bump it getting it out. Or your going to pay me $300aust to trace the component and replace, solder or glue it back on. Awesome video will try this myself thanks.

  • @randallsmith2521
    @randallsmith2521 6 років тому

    I now want to look at older iMacs and see if they can be upgraded also...

  • @cdoublejj
    @cdoublejj 7 років тому

    that 8% bump may be from better thermal paste allowing better cooling and better boost speeds and or better/faster/lower latency ram. the Name brand stuff sometimes has better latency

  • @sipapito
    @sipapito 5 років тому

    I went for this 4k and photo editing most of the time,comming from an old 2010 Imac i3.
    Apple iMac 27 inch 5K Ultra HD Display i7 Quad Core 8GB RAM 512GB SSD

  • @golightlyproject
    @golightlyproject 4 роки тому

    I missed many of your hand gestures, so one could account it to me not paying enough attention to detail 😆

  • @chitskirits
    @chitskirits 6 років тому

    WAU! And there is me using a 2008 iMac running Ubuntu free OS and is still kicking along.

  • @CharlieMullett
    @CharlieMullett 6 років тому

    Really nice video - I've just opened up my 2009 iMac - to repair the GPU - and it was super fiddly, amazing how much simpler they have made it now! If i was going to buy/spend this kinda money this is def how I would do it. Neat system, neat idea!

  • @jeremytravis360
    @jeremytravis360 5 років тому

    I love it. Many thanks. Years ago when I was fit and healthy I would have tried this myself. Assuming I was still fit and healthy.