Oh I've gone faaar down the rabbit hole out of my damn curiosity.🤦 I've acquired knowledge of light and dark and I prefer the light and will continue to strive to live in the light. I did lose the idealistic view for a while but came back to it due to still possibly being influenced by the religion I grew up in and their views of the afterlife. And yes f the narcs.
At one point I was fairly hateful of humanity, misanthropic I guess. The thing that really helped me was connecting to others deeply. Learning about other people has helped me feel more trustworthy of them. It's easy to fear things when you see yourself as alone in all of this, but knowing that others depend on you, and you on them, it's a lighter burden. For anyone in that misanthropic state, reach out to people who you have commonalities with. Bond with them, and really see how unique each person is. See their struggles, and then you see yourself in them, and them within yourself. That is how we grow as INFJs, by understanding others, we understand ourself.
I’m an INFP, but I have done this… it caused me Great Depression for a long time, and wasn’t helpful for my mental illness. It started with truth and turned into delusions. I’m getting out of that now, but like you said, I’ll never really be the same. I feel the same way about having mental illness though,. Like I’m never going to stop seeing certain patterns and losing my mind because of it. Medication can help, but I’ll never be fully sane and untouched by certain knowledge. Wish you the best. -INFP 4w5
I have been there. I had really bad chronic pain for 16+ years...combined with that...seeing too much of the bad side of ppl on occasion... Definitely pushed me to the breaking point. More than once. For me, i would do lots of things depending on... How far "down the rabbit hole" i was. Think of my family's reactions. Writing down everything that im thinking and feeling. Or Focus really hard on finding at least one positive thing to hold onto each day...to get to the next day. Then do it again. Now tho, tbh i dont let myself get to that point. The obsessive, depressive loop, as it were. I head it off bf i get there. Or at least try to, as much as possible. Mostly, w music tbh... It helps me anyway, finding a perfectly fitting song to match my mood. Something soothing to the soul in it for me. And of course knowing, that someone else has felt that way, and captured the feeling.. helps me a lot. Gets me outta my head. That form of artistic expression. 😊
You know what? The fact that you don't know and can't really know everything as an INFJ or anyone else really is actually a blessing. It allows you to keep hope and faith for a better ideal and a brighter future because you can still give the benefit of the doubt and stay hopeful. You're not actually forced to be so categorical. Some people will call you delusional for that (usually the thinkers from experience, they can frequently be cynical). Some INFJs who go too far down the rabbit hole will start thinking they've figured out everything. But it's this same faith (not religious, just basic faith), this uncertainty that will give them the will to move forward no matter how dark things can seem to be at times, because there is no proof fatality exists. You having the capacity to decide from your own will at any given point to act against it no matter how hopeless things can seem to be is a sign it doesn't. As long as you can still question yourself and doubt at any moment, free will still does exist. That's the essence of what makes the greatness of the INFJ type imo, *they're always doubting.* Totally lucid and realistic, they don't take anything lightly, yet they are also very ambitious and idealists at the same time. Depressing yet hopeful, that's what an INFJ is. That could really sound like a flaw at first but it's not. Being able to doubt and always having a second thought is actually a great quality. That's thanks to it that INFJs can reconsider things and directly stop when they're in the wrong. It demands real strength to have the courage to doubt. As an INFJ, if you become too convinced of the fatality in things, you can no longer stay an ambitious idealist. You're usually here to remind thinkers that loopholes can exist in their well crafted logical view no matter how perfect it can seem to be for them. And thanks to you finding the right facts and examples, they'll come to slowly recognize, accept, tolerate and even maybe come to appreciate that you can defy them over time. If you no longer can, you'll become a very cynical and know it all INFJ. The doubt is what will keep your mind sane and healthy as an INFJ. Other types usually don't realize that's why they like INFJs, they can't put their finger on what's different about them. INFJs are always on the verge of everything and everyone else usually looks so extrem to them. That's also what makes them great diplomats. Regain your light and your hopeful nature INFJ, start doubting again, stop overtheorizing and your objectivity will come back from where you left it for a time.
I find you have to write out your thoughts to cure the NI-TI loop. And yes, causing yourself minor pain does temporarily distract from emotional pain. By the way Johnny, are you seeking companionship, or just something that puts a smile on your face? Because if it's the latter - you can just get a robot. It should be less expensive overtime.
Are people getting robots instead of dogs lol? Is robot man's best new friend now hahahaha. I don't know about that, GTS, but as always, thanks for the clever comments. Hope all is well.
I hear you Bro. I understand exactly What you mean. We can drive ourselves crazy Trying to seek truth. I take your message with L🤍vE & Respect. 🕊️🕯️🤍🌳🕊️.
That is very true. I like to pair knowledge with some sort of small action. Ni 🏃🏻♀️Se 🏃🏻♀️Ni 🏃🏻♀️ Se 🏃🏻♀️ Research, brainstorm, execute. Rinse and repeat. That Ni Ti loop is a special kind of hell lol
There was a time where I went deep to the point of depression. I’ve come to understand that I can still seek truth and go deep, knowing that at the end of the day, it’s not up to me to take on the world’s problems or to solve them or heal. Healing is an individual journey that you take within yourself. Having a support system can help, but in the end, people have to choose to recognize the faults and choose to fix it for themselves. Which brings me to my conclusion, there is so much ugly in the world on a soul level and I have come to understand that the change for the better may take much more time than you or I will have on this Earth. I’ve come to accept that. Much love 🙏🏽.
I researched so much that I even know the name for that condition: Depressive realism Depressive realism is a hypothesis that people with depression are more likely to accurately assess certain situations than those without depression. Two professors of psychology, Lauren Alloy and Lyn Yvonne Abramson, developed the depressive realism hypothesis in the 1970s.
The Truth will set you Free. The Truth Hurts. Sometimes.
Fear is the Key. Ignorant is Bliss.
Oh I've gone faaar down the rabbit hole out of my damn curiosity.🤦 I've acquired knowledge of light and dark and I prefer the light and will continue to strive to live in the light. I did lose the idealistic view for a while but came back to it due to still possibly being influenced by the religion I grew up in and their views of the afterlife. And yes f the narcs.
Interesting. I'm a christian, though I don't like religion . .
I find you have to write out your thoughts to cure the NI-TI loop.
Capital F man !!!!!!!
At one point I was fairly hateful of humanity, misanthropic I guess.
The thing that really helped me was connecting to others deeply. Learning about other people has helped me feel more trustworthy of them. It's easy to fear things when you see yourself as alone in all of this, but knowing that others depend on you, and you on them, it's a lighter burden.
For anyone in that misanthropic state, reach out to people who you have commonalities with. Bond with them, and really see how unique each person is. See their struggles, and then you see yourself in them, and them within yourself. That is how we grow as INFJs, by understanding others, we understand ourself.
Sometimes I think it would be better to be ignorant of certain things. The saying "ignorance is bliss" can be true.
Hi Zalvert! After I made this video I realized this happens to INFP too. More content for INFP coming soon. Take care. 🌈 🙏 👋🏻
I’m an INFP, but I have done this… it caused me Great Depression for a long time, and wasn’t helpful for my mental illness. It started with truth and turned into delusions. I’m getting out of that now, but like you said, I’ll never really be the same. I feel the same way about having mental illness though,. Like I’m never going to stop seeing certain patterns and losing my mind because of it. Medication can help, but I’ll never be fully sane and untouched by certain knowledge. Wish you the best.
-INFP 4w5
It's really not our war/ it's the Most High's .... we do play a part; known in part for now.
I have been there. I had really bad chronic pain for 16+ years...combined with that...seeing too much of the bad side of ppl on occasion... Definitely pushed me to the breaking point. More than once.
For me, i would do lots of things depending on... How far "down the rabbit hole" i was. Think of my family's reactions. Writing down everything that im thinking and feeling. Or Focus really hard on finding at least one positive thing to hold onto each day...to get to the next day. Then do it again.
Now tho, tbh i dont let myself get to that point. The obsessive, depressive loop, as it were. I head it off bf i get there. Or at least try to, as much as possible. Mostly, w music tbh... It helps me anyway, finding a perfectly fitting song to match my mood. Something soothing to the soul in it for me. And of course knowing, that someone else has felt that way, and captured the feeling.. helps me a lot. Gets me outta my head. That form of artistic expression. 😊
You know what? The fact that you don't know and can't really know everything as an INFJ or anyone else really is actually a blessing. It allows you to keep hope and faith for a better ideal and a brighter future because you can still give the benefit of the doubt and stay hopeful. You're not actually forced to be so categorical. Some people will call you delusional for that (usually the thinkers from experience, they can frequently be cynical).
Some INFJs who go too far down the rabbit hole will start thinking they've figured out everything. But it's this same faith (not religious, just basic faith), this uncertainty that will give them the will to move forward no matter how dark things can seem to be at times, because there is no proof fatality exists. You having the capacity to decide from your own will at any given point to act against it no matter how hopeless things can seem to be is a sign it doesn't. As long as you can still question yourself and doubt at any moment, free will still does exist.
That's the essence of what makes the greatness of the INFJ type imo, *they're always doubting.* Totally lucid and realistic, they don't take anything lightly, yet they are also very ambitious and idealists at the same time. Depressing yet hopeful, that's what an INFJ is.
That could really sound like a flaw at first but it's not. Being able to doubt and always having a second thought is actually a great quality. That's thanks to it that INFJs can reconsider things and directly stop when they're in the wrong.
It demands real strength to have the courage to doubt.
As an INFJ, if you become too convinced of the fatality in things, you can no longer stay an ambitious idealist.
You're usually here to remind thinkers that loopholes can exist in their well crafted logical view no matter how perfect it can seem to be for them. And thanks to you finding the right facts and examples, they'll come to slowly recognize, accept, tolerate and even maybe come to appreciate that you can defy them over time.
If you no longer can, you'll become a very cynical and know it all INFJ.
The doubt is what will keep your mind sane and healthy as an INFJ.
Other types usually don't realize that's why they like INFJs, they can't put their finger on what's different about them.
INFJs are always on the verge of everything and everyone else usually looks so extrem to them. That's also what makes them great diplomats.
Regain your light and your hopeful nature INFJ, start doubting again, stop overtheorizing and your objectivity will come back from where you left it for a time.
@@kyurei4478profound words, kyurei! I like how you said said the doubt keeps the mind sane. Have a blessed day. Thank you for your amazing comment! 🌈
Thanks for your insightful talk and daily wise words on this channel 🙏.
I find you have to write out your thoughts to cure the NI-TI loop. And yes, causing yourself minor pain does temporarily distract from emotional pain.
By the way Johnny, are you seeking companionship, or just something that puts a smile on your face? Because if it's the latter - you can just get a robot. It should be less expensive overtime.
Are people getting robots instead of dogs lol? Is robot man's best new friend now hahahaha. I don't know about that, GTS, but as always, thanks for the clever comments. Hope all is well.
I hear you Bro.
I understand exactly
What you mean.
We can drive ourselves crazy
Trying to seek truth.
I take your message with L🤍vE & Respect.
🕊️🕯️🤍🌳🕊️.
That is very true. I like to pair knowledge with some sort of small action. Ni 🏃🏻♀️Se 🏃🏻♀️Ni 🏃🏻♀️ Se 🏃🏻♀️ Research, brainstorm, execute. Rinse and repeat. That Ni Ti loop is a special kind of hell lol
I find you have to write out your thoughts to cure the NI-TI loop. It is a special kind, though I can't bring myself to chuckle.
There was a time where I went deep to the point of depression. I’ve come to understand that I can still seek truth and go deep, knowing that at the end of the day, it’s not up to me to take on the world’s problems or to solve them or heal.
Healing is an individual journey that you take within yourself. Having a support system can help, but in the end, people have to choose to recognize the faults and choose to fix it for themselves.
Which brings me to my conclusion, there is so much ugly in the world on a soul level and I have come to understand that the change for the better may take much more time than you or I will have on this Earth. I’ve come to accept that. Much love 🙏🏽.
Glad you are doing better, Jeff. Thanks for sharing this. 🙏
I researched so much that I even know the name for that condition:
Depressive realism
Depressive realism is a hypothesis that people with depression are more likely to accurately assess certain situations than those without depression. Two professors of psychology, Lauren Alloy and Lyn Yvonne Abramson, developed the depressive realism hypothesis in the 1970s.
Oh wow, I never knew there was a term for this. Thanks for sharing.