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  • @deroiste16
    @deroiste16 7 років тому +58

    Your knowledge of Old Hollywood is fantastic, I'm a huge old hollywood fan stemming from when I grew up in the 90s watching TCM in my granny's sitting room. I really think you have a great awareness of the importance of that era in cinema and you have some really interesting information on the personal lives of those great stars, and your dog is cute haha keep up the good work

    • @melianna999
      @melianna999 Рік тому

      Good old days with TCM in TV not Netflix - BS

  • @ellennewth6305
    @ellennewth6305 3 роки тому +17

    What an amazing life Thalberg had...short, but amazing. I don't care what Joan Crawford thought - Norma Shearer was a wonderful actress! Love your stories, Jordan. You're a wealth of information!!!

    • @TrangPakbaby
      @TrangPakbaby 9 місяців тому

      Joan Crawford had every right to resent Norma. Joan was more beautiful talented and paid her dues and was undermined simply because Norma was married to the boss.

    • @pittsburge88
      @pittsburge88 4 місяці тому

      @@TrangPakbaby You're kidding right?

  • @anonymousgirl799
    @anonymousgirl799 6 років тому +17

    Thanks for the video, Jordan. This home was also Barbara Stanwyck's estate. Someone recently purchased the property.

    • @zyrrhos
      @zyrrhos 3 місяці тому

      I can't find any record that Thalberg lived here. Every search shows his home to be 707 Ocean Front in Santa Monica.

  • @robin5380
    @robin5380 5 років тому +13

    The doctors were not far off when they said he would not live past 30. Guess that’s why he was in a hurry at such a young age

  • @christymichael
    @christymichael 6 років тому +17

    So enjoyed your commentary..I feel the same as you about Norma and her acting.. totally won over by herI love her in 'Smilen Through'..the special effects and metaphysical concepts had yo be ahead of their timeI'm moved by the Ending every time.. What a great talent Irving was..thank God he formed the foundation for creating filmI love all the still photos of him..gentle handsome eyes.. look forward to more of your commentary film tours.. you'll be on TCM someday

  • @trevorrandom
    @trevorrandom 6 років тому +18

    It's official I'm addicted to your vlogs!

  • @c.9850
    @c.9850 5 років тому +20

    Norma Shearer is my 3rd cousin and the family liked her.

    • @northerncalifornia3566
      @northerncalifornia3566 3 роки тому

      What the heck is a third cousin?

    • @michaelzadell9063
      @michaelzadell9063 3 роки тому

      @@northerncalifornia3566 Third cousin is the grandchild of a first cousin.

    • @brianoyler706
      @brianoyler706 Рік тому

      @@michaelzadell9063 no, the grandchild of a first cousin is a cousin twice removed. A true second cousin would be you as your grandmother's grandchild and your relation to your grandmother's siblings' grandchildren. A true third cousin...ok, I cannot remember. I'll have to look it up. I'll get back to you on that one if possible. But you see, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc...cousin relationships are much more origin involved than cousins removed. Your first cousin's child is your first cousin once removed!!

    • @brianoyler706
      @brianoyler706 Рік тому

      C. Was Norma Shearer a true third cousin to you, or was she a cousin twice removed? There is a big difference, you know!

    • @TrangPakbaby
      @TrangPakbaby 9 місяців тому

      I thought she had a strained relationship with her children?

  • @sheilariley5179
    @sheilariley5179 6 років тому +50

    One of my favorite vlogs of yours Jordan. I was always fascinated by Mr. Thalberg and Norma Shearer because Joan Crawford hated them so much. I don't think I would have liked Crawford. Thalberg was a genius and his story is amazing.

    • @MTknitter22
      @MTknitter22 5 років тому +9

      Sheila Riley Yes, my favorite too. Naturally when Norma became Mrs Thalberg, she got plum roles ! It infuriated Crawford. But when you marry the Big Boss, it tends to go that way. 😂😂😂 The Women is such fun to watch because Joan got to treat Norma Shearer with hatred. Awesome movie.

    • @northerncalifornia3566
      @northerncalifornia3566 3 роки тому

      I always thought thalbergs death was crawford related. I still do.

    • @RaphaelMArias
      @RaphaelMArias 3 роки тому +1

      Joan was lovely. She was a hoot. Lots of fun. She came from nothing and became one of the greatest actresses, and beauties. She was top of her game.

  • @_CoolHandLuke_
    @_CoolHandLuke_ 5 років тому +7

    What a great vlog! Norma was gorgeous and Irving seems beyond genius. Thanks Jordan

    • @_CoolHandLuke_
      @_CoolHandLuke_ 4 роки тому +1

      @@marjoriemargel1567 Thats a shame that she felt that way. She had a beautiful smile and laugh.

  • @kylecarmean3127
    @kylecarmean3127 3 роки тому +3

    Very cool. I'm a screenwriter who moved to LA last year and am a new fan of old Hollywood. Very neat to see where the Boy Wonder lived.

  • @master-kq3nw
    @master-kq3nw Рік тому +2

    Good too see this house👍

  • @karencox322
    @karencox322 5 років тому +7

    Love old hollywood...You are an awesome vloger

  • @R6FTW59
    @R6FTW59 7 років тому +6

    thanks Jordan very interesting and your dialogue is second to none loved it!

  • @toddconsolo8009
    @toddconsolo8009 7 років тому +8

    Love the old Hollywood vlogs. Good work.

  • @blondthought5175
    @blondthought5175 5 років тому +8

    Both of their children are dead, but I'm assuming there are grand kids still living. (Norma never embraced the whole grandmother thing. It wasn't her cup of tea.)
    Post-Thalberg she had affairs with Mickey Rooney (when he was fifteen) and George Raft. She eventually married Martin Arrouge, a handsome ski instructor maybe twelve years her junior. They were married until her death in 1983.

  • @MummyBrown
    @MummyBrown 6 років тому +7

    Whitley Heights is my favorite area too, Jordan!! There is something about it, you can almost sense the history from that neighborhood

  • @joeblanco3694
    @joeblanco3694 Рік тому

    Well Jordan here's another gem I finally got around to watching but well worth the wait.. thank you my friend!

  • @ms.sonshine8878
    @ms.sonshine8878 4 роки тому +4

    Am a big fan of the beautiful, chic Norma Shearer. Her performances were mesmerizing. My favorite movie of hers is 'Free Soul' with Gable. I also love her movies with Robert Montgomery. Their home on Santa Monica beach is stunning. I found pics on Zillow.

  • @ceciliem1811
    @ceciliem1811 5 років тому +3

    I loved this video Jordan! I loved handsome Irving and pretty Norma together! ❤ Their home is beautiful! Thanks for the information! 👍🎬👍

  • @fernandoanthony63
    @fernandoanthony63 4 роки тому +3

    Groucho Marx had said that Thalberg was instrumental in the success of the Marx Brothers movies due to Thalberg's attention to them. After Thalberg died, Groucho said the Marx Brothers movies just floundered without him. MGM and Louis B. Mayer didn't know what to do with them.

    • @almi3767
      @almi3767 3 роки тому +1

      Great insights!
      Thank you!

  • @patricknunez8884
    @patricknunez8884 4 роки тому +4

    Lion, I love your segments You Rock.

  • @devonzastre9666
    @devonzastre9666 7 років тому +9

    Idk if I'd ever buy a house with that address but props to anyone that does.

    • @ceciliem1811
      @ceciliem1811 5 років тому +2

      It would be okay! It is the 666 address, that you have to look out for and never live at! 😒

    • @elizabethmyers9517
      @elizabethmyers9517 3 роки тому

      I don't like that either. However I was born Oct 6, 1966.

  • @debbiem9218
    @debbiem9218 6 років тому +8

    Sounds like Irving Thalberg was a "smooth operator"

  • @janets9179
    @janets9179 4 роки тому +3

    That is interesting. Always wanted to see Norma shearer in Marie antoinette. My mom and aunt said it was one of their favorite movies.

  • @michaelzadell9063
    @michaelzadell9063 3 роки тому +2

    Good work. I have recently been drawn big time to old Hollywood after reading The Heart of the Lion, a novel centered around the lives of Thalberg and Norma. Norma, I always thought, maintained a bit of the silent movie era emotion/moves but blended it well with modern acting, it made her unique.

  • @javimu111
    @javimu111 4 роки тому +3

    According to the internet, it looks like Barbara Stanwyck also lived here in this same house once!

  • @cindyhenning7832
    @cindyhenning7832 5 місяців тому

    Jordan,I’m watching your old videos but you are amazing and very good with the story’s. You’re very knowledgeable. Thank you. I learn a lot from you thank you

  • @jomama5186
    @jomama5186 Рік тому +2

    I love Norma Shearer. This is all stuff I didn't know. How mean of Joan Crawford!

  • @trixie9246
    @trixie9246 7 років тому +3

    Thanks for posting - love your work - so interesting

  • @rotceridjc
    @rotceridjc 4 роки тому +7

    Is that painting on your wall a “Velvis” ?

  • @christina-yp6jy
    @christina-yp6jy 3 роки тому +1

    Really love this video and thank you.

  • @CalTxDude
    @CalTxDude 3 роки тому +2

    'MGM ~ More Stars than in the Heavens'

  • @leontindle7226
    @leontindle7226 6 років тому +6

    that is an awesome house

  • @louvarricchio780
    @louvarricchio780 4 роки тому +3

    I truly enjoy your videos. Your ground truthing of Hollywood history using modern geography is lively and informative. The L.A. area, like New York City, is in constant rebuilding and we lose so much cultural history as buildings are razed and street grids altered. Anyhow, great fun. Thanks for sharing always!

  • @rosalieallen8828
    @rosalieallen8828 6 років тому +6

    He has a full of mystery feel thats compelling. So early to exit. So much info jordan. Be an investigator for cold cases.

  • @paulwarner2231
    @paulwarner2231 10 місяців тому

    I first saw Norma on the movie escape , that was in 1975 , adored her ever since

  • @ginam8474
    @ginam8474 3 роки тому +1

    Norma was crossed into her early 20's. She saved up from acting as extras and got a surgery that straightened it out.

  • @giathomas8844
    @giathomas8844 Рік тому +1

    Great dog 🐶 good boy

  • @giathomas8844
    @giathomas8844 Рік тому +1

    I love your 🐶

  • @karencollins5353
    @karencollins5353 3 роки тому +2

    Be careful with garlic and onions to do with our little furry friends

  • @jomama5186
    @jomama5186 Рік тому

    I'm getting that Jah t-shirt! Thanks Jordan !

  • @hannahcarvalho8664
    @hannahcarvalho8664 3 роки тому +1

    i love your dog,sweet!!

  • @jomama5186
    @jomama5186 Рік тому

    Each one of your videos is such a precious gift Jordan ! I'm so glad you have your first home. It's beautiful. But, part of me misses you being in LA. I wish houses weren't so high out there and you could have gotten a house just as beautiful as your own there. I'm sure you miss LA, and all the nostalgia. But I am sure glad you showed me how great the change can be sometimes. I am always carrying you and Jah around in my heart and keeping you both in my prayers. So cool to watch your channel grow. You have put so much into this and it's so awesome to see things going so well for you. I am STILL playing catch up on all your videos. And loving each and every one of them ! That little Jah is thee cutest dog in the world! I hope he is enjoying the pool and his yard. I bet he feels like top dog. Too cute! Again, thank you so much for your awesome content and your love for Old Hollywood. I love all the stories! And please never forget I love you and Jah very much !!! I'm 53, so maybe old enough to be your big sis or Mom, and I am every bit as proud of you as both could be! You've got a huge fan, that's for sure!🧡🙏🏻

  • @Ma_Pooh
    @Ma_Pooh 2 роки тому

    I so thoroughly enjoy all of your vlogs, especially the Old Hollywood Vlogs. You're so knowledgeable about the subject matter at hand. Thanks Jordan for yet another Fabulous vlog!!

  • @Fandango541
    @Fandango541 6 років тому +1

    Hi! Another great Vlog! Fact: Norma Shearer definitely was cross-eyed but did daily exercises so she could control her eye muscle better. Notice how there are few, if any, shots in any of her movies where she looks full face into the camera. I also love Idiots Delight! But it was filmed in 1939, so it was a movie about fighting facisim before WWII, not WWI. The hotel was supposedly in the Italian Alps. The soldiers who were holding everyone captive were members of Mussolini's black guard. Just thought I'd let you know. And....you opened by taking a walk by my old apartment building!!! Thanks for that!

  • @haseleyes1
    @haseleyes1 4 роки тому +2

    One of my favorite actresses

  • @carolynpurser7469
    @carolynpurser7469 4 роки тому +3

    The Women is a favorite of mine of Norma Sheaerer.

  • @Josherpoodle
    @Josherpoodle 3 роки тому

    Love your old Hollywood vlogs so much. Great work.

  • @zyrrhos
    @zyrrhos 3 місяці тому

    Barbara Stanwyck lived in this house. I can't find any record that Thalberg lived here. Every search shows his home to be 707 Ocean Front in Santa Monica.

  • @jomama5186
    @jomama5186 Рік тому

    Omg the beginning was so stinkin funny about Jah and his pizza weight. Omg Jordan! You are too darn funny! His face says it all !

  • @maryjaneblahnik5767
    @maryjaneblahnik5767 Рік тому

    Loved watching this vlog again. Irving Thalberg was a genius.

  • @susangerwien1290
    @susangerwien1290 4 роки тому

    The Women and Smiling Through were my two favorite Norma Shearer movies. I could watch them over and over.

  • @micheleadler466
    @micheleadler466 6 років тому +1

    I love all of your interesting videos,

  • @wendymcfadyen-allerby6142
    @wendymcfadyen-allerby6142 5 років тому

    Another great vlog, your on a roll. Thank you Jordan :)

  • @giathomas745
    @giathomas745 4 роки тому +2

    I love your dog 🐕 the pizza good

  • @christopherp.hitchens3902
    @christopherp.hitchens3902 Рік тому +1

    I very much appreciate your work and the research you put into these videos. I particularly enjoyed your summary of F. Scott Fitzgerald’s Hollywood life and subsequent death.
    I did want to mention that I had read, several times, that Thalberg was rather flippant about writers, famously saying that writers should be more like an assembly line, implying that they were not all that important? Apparently he and Fitzgerald’s were friends and he even based his Last Tycoon on Thalberg? Well, anyway!
    I sincerely hope you are still making videos. You seem to be something of a writer yourself, your passion is quite enjoyable!

  • @mikejames-drummerreginacan1386
    @mikejames-drummerreginacan1386 3 роки тому

    Great video Jordan.

  • @peggyhill7283
    @peggyhill7283 7 років тому +9

    This story is the reason I'm subscribed to your channel. I can relate to. Mr. Thalberg's in soo many ways. Health problems to being very successful in business. I shouldn't have lived past 30 either. I have, I'm happy to say. Idiots Delight may be found in bargain bins. I found it on VHS years ago. Joan Crawford never had a nice thing about anyone but herself! Thank you for sharing. Love anything l as the 20's - 30's of Hollywood's best days.

  • @GoldenGirls08
    @GoldenGirls08 2 роки тому +1

    Where is this house I’m a huge fan of Norma and I’m visiting California in September this was one of the things I really want to see

  • @laurakojima5076
    @laurakojima5076 Рік тому

    Such a good story.

  • @cathyvice7135
    @cathyvice7135 6 років тому +5

    Interesting address...

  • @lisaa8795
    @lisaa8795 2 роки тому

    Have seen The Divorcee and A Free Soul a number of times. Those were two of Norma Shearer's best films.

  • @loridee1182
    @loridee1182 6 років тому +1

    You are the best.

  • @izzy6049
    @izzy6049 4 роки тому

    Joan Crawfords film debut (though uncredited) was in my favorite Norma Shearer film "Lady of the Night". Norma Shearer played a dual roll in this movie.

  • @leontindle7226
    @leontindle7226 6 років тому

    great vlog mr. jordan thank you

  • @racheldelgado9216
    @racheldelgado9216 7 років тому +2

    I see your Elvis velvet painting.

  • @jamesdemasi7077
    @jamesdemasi7077 3 роки тому

    Very interesting story, and loved it.

    • @jamesdemasi7077
      @jamesdemasi7077 3 роки тому

      Hey Jordan enjoying you completely and the story is satisfying.

  • @jahmeb
    @jahmeb 6 років тому +2

    This house is for sale. www.zillow.com/homedetails/6666-Whitley-Ter-Los-Angeles-CA-90068/20803828_zpid/ to see the interiors.

  • @michaelh5416
    @michaelh5416 6 років тому

    great job Jordan

  • @rollydoucet8909
    @rollydoucet8909 3 роки тому +1

    After watching this vlog, I went onto Google Maps to see this property, and it's nothing like on your vlog. There must be nearly 10 garbage containers parked in front, all with 6666 (address) on them. How much garbage can the average household throw out in one week? lol

  • @Thomas8892Q
    @Thomas8892Q 5 років тому +5

    Hey Jordon. I’ve been binging on your videos. Love them. I’m also a huge Hollywood and celebrity fan. My dad back once managed a jack and the box in Burbank back in 1969 ish. He met Vick morrow and become friends before Vick died. You should head up to Norcal and do a vlog on the original silent movie hollywood Area called Niles canyon.

  • @thomasdelvin3683
    @thomasdelvin3683 3 роки тому

    so now we know that this guy is now 39 years old as of 2020

  • @pamfrank3962
    @pamfrank3962 2 роки тому

    Great story 👏

  • @lalanthegood
    @lalanthegood 6 років тому +13

    6666 the adress

    • @ceciliem1811
      @ceciliem1811 5 років тому +1

      It's the address of 666; that you have to look out for! 6666 is okay! 😒

    • @Carol-D.1324
      @Carol-D.1324 4 роки тому +2

      Awesome! You are very observant.

  • @Stevebaby123
    @Stevebaby123 3 роки тому +1

    Do you ever contact the current homeowner via mail to see if they have further information on the homes? Enjoy your vlogs.

  • @jennifursun3303
    @jennifursun3303 5 років тому +1

    just saw a couple of videos YOU WOULD LOVE if you have not seen them tour old MGM studio and the Selznic studio

  • @jomama5186
    @jomama5186 Рік тому

    Is what a lovely couple

  • @fred3467
    @fred3467 5 років тому +6

    Although I love Shearer, Crawford was the more talented of the two. Joan Crawford outlasted both Garbo and Norma at Metro. Great vlog!

    • @ceciliem1811
      @ceciliem1811 5 років тому

      Who was the oldest? 😒

    • @fred3467
      @fred3467 5 років тому

      @@ceciliem1811 Norma Shearer

    • @michaelzadell9063
      @michaelzadell9063 3 роки тому +1

      Joan was fantastic in The Women, Mildred Pierce and some later films. She continued on into the 1970s, I believe, because her sense of self worth was bound to her success as an actress. Seems she always carried her wrong side of the tracks youth into adulthood and could never shake that ghost, Sad.

  • @cherchezlavache4373
    @cherchezlavache4373 3 роки тому +1

    “Idiot’s Delight” is one of my favorite movies. It’s wonderful, & Norma Shearer is excellent in it.
    The song you reference as being performed In “Idiot’s Delight”, by Clark Gable, (as Harry Van & “Les Blonds”) “Puttin’ on the Ritz”, I believe actually began its film life 9 years earlier, in a movie by the same name, which starred one of Mae West’s earliest accompanists, Harry Richman, who became a big star in his own right.
    Thanks for all your work. I really enjoy it!

  • @spokanetomcat1
    @spokanetomcat1 5 років тому

    We have the same sinks. Mine is located in the basement bathroom.

  • @utubernan1223
    @utubernan1223 3 роки тому

    I’m going to be doing a juice cleanse myself. I’ve done one before and I do have a juicer but this time I ordered my juice from the best quality juice company I could find because my word, the time it takes and the room it takes in your fridge! I’m busy and I just need to be able to grab it and go. I always want to try to do 30 days but it’s so hard to last that long! How long do u do them for?

  • @robbywells7050
    @robbywells7050 5 років тому +3

    Love that puppy ❤️

  • @elchoya100
    @elchoya100 6 років тому +2

    16:00,marlene dietrich wasnt an M.G.M star,aPARAMOUNT star,though she did make KISMIT 1944 for the studio.you should said have garbo who was the studios top female star.good video though!

  • @thelookuplookdown
    @thelookuplookdown 4 роки тому +1

    Norma Shearer and Jeanette MacDonald were two of the mot underrated actors at MGM during the 30's.

  • @PcolaTigger69
    @PcolaTigger69 Рік тому +1

    How's Jah?

  • @lindainglis8506
    @lindainglis8506 3 роки тому

    Where is the tour?

  • @madhistory
    @madhistory 5 років тому +1

    Interesting address

    • @poorthing
      @poorthing 3 роки тому

      Just numbers

    • @josephharnett5075
      @josephharnett5075 2 роки тому

      Ya I thought the same see you got a comment saying just numbers 🤔 but those wouldn't be my choice lol

  • @lemorab1
    @lemorab1 3 роки тому

    I wonder how much Irving Thalberg smoked and drank, if he did either one. I wouldn't be so sure about never cutting loose. In her memoir "The Shocking Miss Pilgrim," Fredrika Sagor Maas describes a party at the Ambassador Hotel in the 1920's, shortly after she moved out to Hollywood to work as a screenwriter. The studio gave private parties for the top brass and rented several private bungalows for their exclusive use, as well as taking over the main ballroom of the hotel. Maas employed a seamstress and became good friends with her. Maas went to the party and says she naively opened the wrong door to a bungalow at the wrong time. Irving Thalberg, naked, was chasing the seamstress around a chair in the room. Maas, mortified, quickly closed the door and fled. She was so embarrassed and confused, she never spoke to the seamstress again. She says this was when the blinders were truly ripped off her eyes regarding the decadence of the industry she worked in.
    Before Norma Shearer married Thalberg, she and Fredrika were good friends. Both were invited to stay at San Simeon and be roommates, but Freddie cancelled at the last minute because another friend begged her to help find her drunken husband who was on a bender somewhere. This proved to be a costly mistake, as Freddie could've used Thalberg and Norma's support a few years later when she ran afoul of Producer Harry Rapf.

  • @janets9179
    @janets9179 4 роки тому

    I can see the crossed eyes.

  • @writer422
    @writer422 3 роки тому +1

    6666? LOL

  • @jennifursun3303
    @jennifursun3303 5 років тому

    miss my doggie

  • @martinturnbull1257
    @martinturnbull1257 4 роки тому

    Hey Jordan - can you give me the address of the "6666" house? I'm currently doing some research about him and can't see any address with that number.

    • @josephharnett5075
      @josephharnett5075 2 роки тому

      Hey Martin I notice that address too kinda weird 🤔

  • @ginogennaroalonso1067
    @ginogennaroalonso1067 2 місяці тому +1

    Number...666...6 Devil. 2024. 🇺🇸👹

  • @dianadrb
    @dianadrb 2 роки тому

    Look at the address

  • @tomthefunky
    @tomthefunky 6 років тому +2

    Hey, I love your videos but can you stop saying the word "actually" so much?

    • @DazewithJordantheLion
      @DazewithJordantheLion  6 років тому +18

      Nope. Price you pay for free entertainment daily.

    • @_CoolHandLuke_
      @_CoolHandLuke_ 5 років тому

      Hahahahaha. Thats my dog!!!

    • @northerncalifornia3566
      @northerncalifornia3566 3 роки тому

      @@DazewithJordantheLion that's why I am not a subber of your channel.😁

    • @poorthing
      @poorthing 3 роки тому +1

      @@DazewithJordantheLion at least its not 'like',

    • @lisaa8795
      @lisaa8795 2 роки тому

      Actually, no.