The Acolyte: A Perfect Failure

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  • @coltonberge3678
    @coltonberge3678 6 місяців тому +676

    Wow, an older figure of authority takes advantage of their power to sexually assault a younger person because no one can stop them. Where have we seen that before?
    ... Wait, the head producer/writer was an assistant to who?

    • @RoseBaggins
      @RoseBaggins 6 місяців тому +37

      ... Yeah ...

    • @UncleB83
      @UncleB83 6 місяців тому

      lol she just can’t help but to make this entire series her own diary. God damn she is beyond worthless.

    • @BertoxolusThePuzzled
      @BertoxolusThePuzzled 6 місяців тому +94

      They DO say to write what you know, I suppose she REALLY took that lesson to heart...

    • @lurkingllama8364
      @lurkingllama8364 6 місяців тому +37

      She writes what she knows.

    • @SelecaoOfMidas
      @SelecaoOfMidas 6 місяців тому +29

      Filed under: Write What You Know 😂💀

  • @BlazingOwnager
    @BlazingOwnager 6 місяців тому +837

    A powerful leader of a powerful coven of powerful women!
    *entirely wiped out by a single Jedi in self defense*

    • @VladMcCain
      @VladMcCain 6 місяців тому +80

      A single Jedi woman

    • @ppsarrakis
      @ppsarrakis 6 місяців тому +25

      tbh this is one of the few things that i could let slide, she clearly is a jedi "Consular" and i can i see her disrupting the "ritual" fucked them up.

    • @robertc.9503
      @robertc.9503 6 місяців тому +76

      @@ppsarrakis It's not funny because it's unrealistic (within the setting, anyway), it's funny because it goes against what the show runners were trying to do.

    • @ppsarrakis
      @ppsarrakis 6 місяців тому +17

      @@robertc.9503 the show runners clearly are trying to make this a Meta/Realistic etc and falling all over the place yet still a broken clock is right twice a day, (wookie fight and indara mind thing was fine for me,the rest where shit)
      edit they probably think that proper writing is beaneath them and they too smart for following basic storytelling rules

    • @VladMcCain
      @VladMcCain 6 місяців тому +35

      @@BlazingOwnager I'm kinda with jsg, they setup, have said, men bad, Jedi are patriarchy and bad... Tried to set up so the Jedi and especially the Jedi men are bad... and then the witches are the ones that mind fuk two people. then a group of them take over a single Wookiee. Only for the one female Jedi swoop in and somehow kill all the rest by breaking up the mind control...
      Um what was the point of the story again? Oh yeah men bad... Yet they barely did anything outside just being there.
      No the whole story is a dozen fantasy stories rolled together under "star wars" and they left story holes big enough to drive the star death through.

  • @Narukamiiii
    @Narukamiiii 6 місяців тому +848

    There's no way Disney higher ups ever watch these shows because if I payed 180 million and THIS is what they made I'd be somewhat upset

    • @weldsj8847
      @weldsj8847 6 місяців тому +36

      IT was pointed out, you have 8 x 30 min. episodes, minus opening and closing credits, recaps, and episode 7 was a lot of re-used footage = more like 3 or so hours of content. $180 million. I think Raiders of the Lost Ark cost $30 million. Inflation but, really!?!?

    • @jr_484
      @jr_484 6 місяців тому +11

      ​@Luke_Go 🙄 of course you are, Luke.
      Having $58 worth of fractional shares doesn't count

    • @CyAnKS93
      @CyAnKS93 6 місяців тому +16

      Tax writeoff, and most of that goes to people already heavily linked to the company. 50 million to a "different department" etc etc

    • @MichaelDuFresne
      @MichaelDuFresne 6 місяців тому +23

      Honestly, I think the $180 mil was mostly money laundering.

    • @illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon
      @illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon 6 місяців тому +9

      No investor care about the product, is all about the returns.

  • @Kemot300
    @Kemot300 6 місяців тому +457

    Someone described witches dying scene as 'Trinity disconnects the witches from The Matrix killing them instantly' and it's a hillariously perfect fit.

    • @HellsFallenAngel1
      @HellsFallenAngel1 6 місяців тому +24

      That explain soo much

    • @persephone342
      @persephone342 6 місяців тому +22

      You can hear the matrix opening notes in the score when she leaps into the air onto Kelnacha’s shoulders.

    • @adrianchatman5734
      @adrianchatman5734 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Kemot300 LMFAO 😆😆😆!!!

    • @SavageRush012
      @SavageRush012 6 місяців тому +1

      AngryJoe

    • @nikosantos1172
      @nikosantos1172 6 місяців тому

      define perfect

  • @Comicsluvr
    @Comicsluvr 6 місяців тому +779

    A perfect example of someone who can't tell a story, even when they know exactly what they want to say.

    • @sadface7457
      @sadface7457 6 місяців тому +18

      I think each episode was written by different person

    • @tjroelsma
      @tjroelsma 6 місяців тому +38

      Well, they DON'T know what they want to say: characters contradict themselves constantly, sometimes even after just a few minutes. Things are being set-up that never pay off, or even worse: some things haven't been set-up but do pay off.
      There simply doesn't seem to be a coherent script and everyone involved seems to bemind wiped the moment the director yells cut, because they can't seem to remember what they did before the present scene.
      This show makes no sense, has terrible directing, has terrible acting, has no script, has no plot, flip-flops between raping the lore and suddenly remembering the parts of the lore that are convenient, has no sense of time and there simply isn't even a shed of continuity.

    • @davfree9732
      @davfree9732 6 місяців тому +12

      When you break it down, there is just enough info to suggest the head Thread Witch is planning to sacrifice the coven to give Mai and Osha some kind of power boost, or put them onto a destined path without the Jedi. So frankly I'm okay with Trinity disconnecting them from the Matrix

    • @thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852
      @thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852 6 місяців тому

      ​@@davfree9732I was thinking the opposite. Sacrifice the twins for more finger bang powers for the coven.

    • @t.k.1319
      @t.k.1319 6 місяців тому +7

      That’s because they prioritized whatever ham-fisted message, they wanted to say over telling a good story.

  • @internetzenmaster8952
    @internetzenmaster8952 6 місяців тому +327

    After Episode 3, my inner 40k nerd was going: "The Jedi should totally purge these -heretics- darkside cultists. They give off the _comically evil_ vibes from the get-go, and it'll take a lot to make the Jedi look bad."
    After Episode 7, that 40k nerd is screaming: *_"THE JEDI DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG. THEY PURGED THE HERETICS WITH THEIR OWN UNHOLY FLAME AND THE COVEN DESERVED EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED TO IT."_*
    This makes Torbin's suicide *completely pointless* because the kid did nothing wrong at all.

    • @3rdtimesthecharm376
      @3rdtimesthecharm376 6 місяців тому +58

      Suffer not the Witch to live-

    • @RallasterAsuremen
      @RallasterAsuremen 6 місяців тому +42

      Hatred is the emperor’s greatest gift to humanity.

    • @garysuarez9614
      @garysuarez9614 6 місяців тому +35

      My armour is contempt.

    • @SelecaoOfMidas
      @SelecaoOfMidas 6 місяців тому +45

      The only reason for Torbin game ending himself then would be him still suffering from the mind grape all this time, and May gave him a "way out" that kinda-sorta fits her un-justification for killing these Jedi. It makes sense... until it doesn't.
      E: These writers wanted it to be "men bad, Jedi bad", but instead we get the Jedi being cops acting in self-defence being vilified, and even get a half-hearted nod to the effects of being sexually assaulted or worse on a survivor of the event. Which I say "good on you" because we know they normally would laugh and demean male victims/survivors.

    • @billylocke9633
      @billylocke9633 6 місяців тому +19

      But she was gonna let Osha go. Never mind the fact that she mind graped someone and turned into a smoke demon. She was a good mom.. Jedi are bad!!

  • @cynblade7422
    @cynblade7422 6 місяців тому +245

    Honestly, I can't help but see the fingerprints of an abuser on this show, and given the showrunner, that makes sense. Think about it. The Padawan turned Master killed himself because he thought he did something evil. We come to find out that not only did he do nothing wrong, he was the one who was violated. The worst abusers are the ones that convince the victims they are at fault, which is a natural inclination of the abused trying to make sense of the shame coming from what happened to them. This show is disgusting.

    • @RoseBaggins
      @RoseBaggins 6 місяців тому +23

      That's what I was thinking after finding out what happened in this episode.

    • @LRich-hg3hu
      @LRich-hg3hu 6 місяців тому +43

      Dear Lord....I already thought the suicide and the violation were bad.
      Then you had to throw this astute insight at me that connects the two in the most horrific way....

    • @hayorge27
      @hayorge27 6 місяців тому +36

      As a grown man who was sexually abused by his own mother, you are 10000000% correct. Every day is a struggle not to blow my head off.

    • @69SalterStreet
      @69SalterStreet 6 місяців тому +13

      Yes! As soon as I found out who Leslie was and who she worked for it made so much sense.

    • @Morncreek
      @Morncreek 6 місяців тому +16

      ​@@hayorge27 Abused by my father. I am sorry that someone who should have been your protector was instead a perpetrator.
      (edit: Removed hugging emoji. I realized it may be a tainted association and unintentionally cause distress.)

  • @SunShine-xc6dh
    @SunShine-xc6dh 6 місяців тому +336

    Heres the thing, you'd have to be a reasonable person to know what a reasonable person considers reasonable.

    • @alannothnagle
      @alannothnagle 6 місяців тому +11

      Yeah, it's sort of a spin-off of the Dunning-Kruger Effect!

    • @ALmizzle415
      @ALmizzle415 6 місяців тому +7

      That’s a reasonable assumption…

    • @aaronaukema1284
      @aaronaukema1284 6 місяців тому +12

      Yes. These are seriously the type of people who will argue that "of course the Jedi are bad!", and then give 100 reasons that demonstrate how good they are. These are the same people who argued on the Piers Morgan show that the show HAD to be good, because like Black Panther, the Acolyte has a mostly diverse cast and crew.

  • @katemaloney4296
    @katemaloney4296 6 місяців тому +175

    "But that would make sense . . . and this isn't that kind of show."
    Best damn tagline ever!

  • @Sakemaru_
    @Sakemaru_ 6 місяців тому +153

    Considering Lesley's last job, i can see why she just glossed over the mind grape scene. She's used to ignoring that sort of thing

    • @suezcontours6653
      @suezcontours6653 6 місяців тому

      Oh, so you only recognize rape when its woman on man? How often do women rape boys? Hardly ever. White boys aren't victims of anyone, sorry to burst your bubble but women weaponize sex by NOT having sex with men... Like right now, 4B Movement is being practiced in USA right now, driving down your population.
      So don't really know what victimhood status are whites trying to push here, it's just making you look IMPOTENT. We still segregated from whites and black Americans and Africans are currently mating with other POC and Chinese specifically due to BRICS. The West's population is dying. White people birthrates are suffering

    • @martinderabbie3429
      @martinderabbie3429 6 місяців тому

      Or at worst she thinks it's okay as long as it's a Girl doing it to a Boy

  • @erraticuk
    @erraticuk 6 місяців тому +138

    When Kilgrave mind assaults Jessica Jones, he's the worst villian ever.
    When Witches mind assaults children and men, They are the good guys???

    • @JoakimOtamaa
      @JoakimOtamaa 6 місяців тому +15

      Just rewatched JJ S1. Damn it was good after all these years.

    • @AbsentMinded619
      @AbsentMinded619 6 місяців тому +24

      She seems to think of r-e as something powerful people get to do, and therefore in her power fantasy, she can do it, making the traditional patriarchal man tremble at her great strength. She doesn’t seem to see assault as inherently evil; it’s just that she wants to be the one doing it to “them.” The Echo show ended in a similar way. There are a lot of personal issues making it onto the screen at Disney.

    • @adrianchatman5734
      @adrianchatman5734 6 місяців тому +7

      @@erraticuk glad someone else noted the hypocrisy of JJ and this show.

    • @JHand04
      @JHand04 6 місяців тому

      Still tryin to figure that ish out, fren.

    • @ricardocanonico3430
      @ricardocanonico3430 5 місяців тому

      Because tits, that's why.

  • @RunKnitCoffee
    @RunKnitCoffee 6 місяців тому +914

    As a woman who was abused by another woman- the mind rape scene was horrifying. There is no excuse for how it was framed.

    • @Motard.Actual
      @Motard.Actual 6 місяців тому +148

      Yea, that shit is pretty fucked up. And I’m sorry you went through that.

    • @RunKnitCoffee
      @RunKnitCoffee 6 місяців тому +192

      @@Motard.Actual don’t ever let anyone call you a toxic fan, and don’t ever let Leslye Headland tell “young audiences” that it’s ok to abuse teenage boys. I’m glad people are actually talking about this in a rational manner and picking it apart. I think that’s the best thing that’s coming from it.

    • @NerdettesNewsStand
      @NerdettesNewsStand 6 місяців тому

      Mind Rape?!?

    • @Quazi-Moto
      @Quazi-Moto 6 місяців тому +10

      @@RunKnitCoffee Just for the sake of clarification, was "irrational" what you meant to say?

    • @Motard.Actual
      @Motard.Actual 6 місяців тому +27

      @@RunKnitCoffee thanks homie, I do my best. I normally keeps my mouth shut the shop I go too has a lot of folks that love the show.. I don’t get it. Good for them I guess. But shit just pisses me off.

  • @jfangm
    @jfangm 6 місяців тому +351

    I find it disturbing that Hollywood is obsessed with making the Jedi the bad guys, which makes the Empire seem good in contrast.

    • @c0d3warrior
      @c0d3warrior 6 місяців тому +59

      They can only write about what they know and want to be seen as on the right side of history, while knowing damn well they are the villains - so they need all this moral relativism to tell themselves their evilness is good somehow. If they were better writers, they might even be able to construct a somewhat palatable story - but they aren't.

    • @leviticusprime4904
      @leviticusprime4904 6 місяців тому

      They are unintentionally making the literal space nazis(the main military arm is called Stormtroopers and the main colors are red, black and white) look like the good guys.

    • @leviticusprime4904
      @leviticusprime4904 6 місяців тому

      @@c0d3warriorThey are making the space nazis look like the good guys by accident.

    • @leviticusprime4904
      @leviticusprime4904 6 місяців тому

      @@c0d3warriorthey are accidentally making the space nazis look good.

    • @LRich-hg3hu
      @LRich-hg3hu 6 місяців тому +65

      You have to look at it from the view of the writers. The writers are West Coast, Hollywood progressives. So they see:
      *Jedi:* A quasi-religious order that enforces law and order, is committed to defending the traditional ways, teaching the old ways, and has a firm sense of good and evil, right and wrong, and strictures about not being ruled by your emotions (feelings) and letting rationality (facts) govern them.
      And on the other side, they see...
      *Empire:* An organization that forsakes ideas of good and evil and is only concerned with gaining power, and then using that power to force everyone else in the galaxy to obey them - to live as they say, to act as they say, to think as they say, and believe as they say.
      Obviously, they already believe the Empire are the heroes....now they are just looking for ways to convince the audience.

  • @НикакНетфамилии
    @НикакНетфамилии 6 місяців тому +156

    - And now i will begin to turn into Menacing Dark Cloud!
    - Why?
    - This is the way we greet treasured guests around here. We are peaceful.
    - What else do you do?
    - We mind*f-u-с-к* force-sensitive teenagers. We are peaceful.
    - What else?
    - Cannibalism. Don't question our awesome traditions.

    • @jimgillespie9739
      @jimgillespie9739 6 місяців тому +15

      I got the feeling that she was turning into the cloud in an attempt to de-escalate the situation. (Because the story wants the Jedi to be the villains and the witches the victims not because of anything actualy shown.) So if Sol hadn't stabbed her everything would have been fine.
      BUT... you've already violated a teenager, so doing something menacing looking without making your intentions very clear gets a cheer from the audience when you get stabbed with a light sabre

    • @brotbrotsen1100
      @brotbrotsen1100 6 місяців тому +6

      I kinda want a clarification how strong with the force the witch was supposed to be. I don't think we saw anyone just changing aggregate states with the force. Maybe she is made out of water

  • @chidoman1595
    @chidoman1595 6 місяців тому +51

    In main canon, the jedi are actually pretty chill with other force users, even those who use the darkside. They almost never fight unless they're forced to.

    • @TheVoidIsCold
      @TheVoidIsCold 5 місяців тому +3

      Believable considering that the Jedi Council decided that they shouldn't interact with the coven cult

  • @roamingvagabond5435
    @roamingvagabond5435 6 місяців тому +91

    As a dude that got physically Torbin'd I appreciate you holding that line, Guy.

    • @mrpurple11
      @mrpurple11 6 місяців тому +17

      Sending you a hug. Hope you get better and heal❤

    • @kaygee2121
      @kaygee2121 6 місяців тому

      Yeah, likening what happened to Torbin to actual sexual assault, is indeed disgusting. Not saying the witches were in the right...anyone with a brain knows they weren't and aren't the good guys. But sexual assault, really?

  • @Danbearpig
    @Danbearpig 6 місяців тому +233

    Excellent analysis. It’s even worse though! They do in fact address the “mind rape” of a teenager when Sol tells him not to let them into his mind again. Which means instead of confronting the space witches for violating a child, they literally blame the victim!!! And when they re-enter Space Waco and the fire starts, only the Jedi suggest saving the girls! Sol offers help and begs that they all work together, and the witches’ response is to escalate to violence, then gaslight Sol. Unbelievable!

    • @MumboJumboZXC
      @MumboJumboZXC 6 місяців тому +34

      Awful writing through and through

    • @tcunero
      @tcunero 6 місяців тому +64

      Its almost like it was written by a person who spent time as a personal assistant covering up such things.... 😮

    • @alicianieto2822
      @alicianieto2822 6 місяців тому +22

      Guess that spending your career justifying and assisting Einstein would wrap your mind so that logic seems reasonable

    • @VespoLiveGaming
      @VespoLiveGaming 6 місяців тому +21

      Sol told Tommen to suck it up and take it like a man.

    • @alannothnagle
      @alannothnagle 6 місяців тому +15

      This episode gives off very strong Jonestown vibes. All that's missing is the Kool-Aid!! 😒

  • @O4C209
    @O4C209 6 місяців тому +386

    Leslye Headland is a bad person, that's why her "heroes" are bad and "villains" are good.

    • @alannothnagle
      @alannothnagle 6 місяців тому

      She appears to possess no moral compass whatsoever. If she did possess one, she'd never have worked for somebody like Weinstein. "By their fruits ye shall know them."

    • @thelaughingrouge
      @thelaughingrouge 6 місяців тому +56

      She's complicate if not an accomplice in the SA of countless young women. She's waaaaay beyond "a bad person".

    • @thatHARVguy
      @thatHARVguy 6 місяців тому +25

      Woke SJWeirdos: "The heroes you love are EVIL!"
      *Accidental Strawman intensifies*
      Every. Damn. Time. 🤦‍♂

    • @ProtonCannon
      @ProtonCannon 6 місяців тому +23

      "You write about what you know." as they say

    • @morriganmhor5078
      @morriganmhor5078 6 місяців тому +23

      She was Weinsteins padawan, after all. So... Darth Les?

  • @aokhoinguyenang3992
    @aokhoinguyenang3992 6 місяців тому +99

    This really reminded of that Ignited comic you revealed where the main cast attack people randomly &we are supposed to see tham as "heroes", while the antagonist tried to use as less force as possible but they are considered by the story as "villains"

    • @internetzenmaster8952
      @internetzenmaster8952 6 місяців тому +28

      Dear god, I was wondering why I got a familiar vibe from this show. There's 'writing the story from the antagonist POV,' but both Ignited and the Acolyte fail at it so bad its painful.

  • @victorsedamano2513
    @victorsedamano2513 6 місяців тому +142

    There are no fire extinguishers in such a big compund? It looks like an OSHA violation XD
    I'll see myself out

    • @BKPrice
      @BKPrice 6 місяців тому +19

      That's why Osha wanted to go: the compound wasn't compliant to her.

    • @thatHARVguy
      @thatHARVguy 6 місяців тому +16

      Ya see, the flammable stone is unprocessed Explodium™. That's what the consoles in Star Trek are made of. The lowest bidder, amirite?

    • @willhuey687
      @willhuey687 5 місяців тому

      OSHA and the IRS truly the most feared cults in the galaxy

    • @jasonnewbery
      @jasonnewbery 5 місяців тому +3

      Definitely needed to be examined by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration

    • @jadonsmith3224
      @jadonsmith3224 4 місяці тому +1

      Tbf... Who knew solid rock was as flammable as laundry lint

  • @darthlaurel
    @darthlaurel 6 місяців тому +27

    When "write what you know" should be used by the prosecution in your trial.

  • @AAjax
    @AAjax 6 місяців тому +51

    I guess Torbin self deletes decades later, because he couldn't cope with the violation.

    • @Life_Universe_Everything
      @Life_Universe_Everything 5 місяців тому

      Not surprising, men who are sexually assaulted or abused aren’t taken seriously and so many men told “should of enjoyed it”

  • @DFAMPODCAST
    @DFAMPODCAST 6 місяців тому +107

    Modern Hollywood writers can't write morality tales because they're incapable of understanding that just because you WANT something to be true, and say something is true, doesn't MAKE it true. This is because they live in a little weird bubble in California where reality is based upon likes, and all that matters is that you APPEAR to be good (and be seen doing it on TickTock) not that you actually do good things.
    You can believe the world is flat , that Galadriel was attracted to Sauron, that the Alcolyte is actually good and this is actually good writing, but that doesn't make it so...
    The fact is this is a poorly disguised trashy fanfic with a bunch of self inserts by writers with gigantic chips on their shoulders who didn't get picked to be on the team in high school, that didn't get to take who they wanted to the dance , and never looked in the mirror to realize that the world isn't always fair and they are not the center of it.
    Instead they went to college and got taught a weird ideology that blames all of their problems on other people . They then got jobs in Hollywood where they hide behind Shields of perceived persecution and continue to make garbage safe with the knowledge that their bosses won't dare fire them because thier bosses are also pushing the same wierd ideology and that the FANS are the problem ....not them.

    • @alannothnagle
      @alannothnagle 6 місяців тому +13

      Based.

    • @ozmanoshe
      @ozmanoshe 6 місяців тому +13

      You deserve more likes.

    • @tkps
      @tkps 6 місяців тому +10

      Until the money finally runs out which it will. "Too big to fail" has never once been successful unless government steps in with taxpayer money to ensure it.

    • @Sorain1
      @Sorain1 6 місяців тому +5

      @@tkps And no government has truly limitless resources either.

    • @zzreaper4499
      @zzreaper4499 6 місяців тому +4

      One thought I had was since this show was directed towards kids, they were maybe probably trying to normalize abusive behavior as heroic....whatever reasons they would do that for I don't know...but it seems a little "brainwashy" to me

  • @jeffmcarthur5617
    @jeffmcarthur5617 6 місяців тому +103

    Bear in mind that these writers were paid - at minimum - $10,500 per week. Per... week!

    • @sadface7457
      @sadface7457 6 місяців тому +8

      Jeez.

    • @BKPrice
      @BKPrice 6 місяців тому

      I wish someone would pay me to take a dump, too.

    • @Jjrmtv
      @Jjrmtv 6 місяців тому +20

      and I think of all the qualified writers who are also SW fans would LOVE to write for the show for half that and would still come up with a far superior product

    • @nikosantos1172
      @nikosantos1172 6 місяців тому

      yay late stage capitalism! overpriced garbage for everyone

    • @drdassler
      @drdassler 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Jjrmtv I can't stand Star Wars but I respect the fanbase & could write a superior story in an afternoon without even trying.

  • @VespoLiveGaming
    @VespoLiveGaming 6 місяців тому +131

    In the original cut, Mother Anisaya shouts "I can't breathe" as Sol kneels on her neck for 9 minutes.

    • @newfieldcharlotte324
      @newfieldcharlotte324 6 місяців тому +8

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ymca4547
      @ymca4547 6 місяців тому +8

      I can't breev!

    • @GNackers53
      @GNackers53 6 місяців тому +9

      I'm willing to bet that, in this scenario, Sol wouldn't even be the one force choking her.

    • @Mystyx-Sama
      @Mystyx-Sama 6 місяців тому

      Took me a moment but my slow ass finally caught up. Good one lol.

    • @leobuana7430
      @leobuana7430 6 місяців тому

      ​@@GNackers53 definitely not her first time

  • @Skull-Daddy
    @Skull-Daddy 6 місяців тому +20

    “The men were supposed to be the cause of the problem, but the only one that did anything shady was the woman “ LMFAO 🤣

  • @XandersArcaneStudy
    @XandersArcaneStudy 6 місяців тому +149

    I had the exact same take on this episode as you. Everything the jedi did seems reasonable and measured except Torbin's weird motivations.

    • @Volyren
      @Volyren 6 місяців тому +20

      You see this with activist writing all the time. You want Yoda to be mean. So you have Yoda fart and say "lick, you must, my ass."
      But the activist writes "Pardon me, you must. Rude, that was."
      And its *not* lazy writing.
      They are snarky, mean-spirited people, who constantly bicker and insult each other. To them, thats just a normal person. But you politely apologize with grace and a smile, now _that_ is insulting. Talking down to you, smugly judging you....
      Thats how they see it.
      You can watch how they interact online, and its exactly like in the shows. Reason and kindness, responsibility, facts... these are attacks.
      She portrayed the Jedi as what she sees as evil, or at least messed up.

    • @alannothnagle
      @alannothnagle 6 місяців тому +8

      @@SageOfLimitlessHands Torben is shown as naive and downright simple-minded, with his childish obsession with just going home, so he was probably all the more vulnerable to this assault. He never should have been on that planet in the first place, and you've got to wonder if the Jedis have any aptitude tests at all for missions of this kind. I guess not.

    • @alannothnagle
      @alannothnagle 6 місяців тому +6

      @@SageOfLimitlessHands Indara messes with Torbin too. Remember the opening scene where we discover that Torbin has been with them on the planet for seven weeks, collecting moss, with no idea what they're looking for, and only then does Indara tell him the point of the mission. Why? I mean, WTF? What are Indara's intentions with him? The poor kid is being abused from all sides, and why was he ever taken along on this expedition in the first place?

    • @ricardokojin7
      @ricardokojin7 6 місяців тому +4

      @@SageOfLimitlessHands Padawan's are trained from a very young age... unless he was like Anakin (former slave with a LOT of baggage + evil master mind trying to turn him slowly) there is no reason for him to be acting like a spoiler brat.

    • @alannothnagle
      @alannothnagle 6 місяців тому +4

      @@SageOfLimitlessHands Of course it isn't the same at all, but Indara is serving Tobin very poorly, and no explanation is ever given.

  • @MadsFeierskov
    @MadsFeierskov 6 місяців тому +18

    For some reason Sol says he feels a special connection with Osha, but he also can't tell Mae and Osha apart later in the episode and it's basically explained that they are identical with respect to the force.

  • @MrPonytron
    @MrPonytron 6 місяців тому +103

    You know something is bad when JSG laughs at how bad it is

    • @Wolfsong3398
      @Wolfsong3398 6 місяців тому +13

      And you know how bad it is when he made the video longer then 10 minutes. When he makes a video that's more than 10 minutes about a show that's bad, then you know he will really go in the deep end to explain why it is bad

    • @MrPonytron
      @MrPonytron 6 місяців тому

      @@Wolfsong3398 Yep

    • @confusedzentradi
      @confusedzentradi 6 місяців тому +4

      He’s crying on the inside.

    • @MaroshBRuNo
      @MaroshBRuNo 6 місяців тому +2

      This is first video of his that I watched and he was repeating himself constantly and that fake laugh made me cringe everytime.

    • @Wolfsong3398
      @Wolfsong3398 6 місяців тому +1

      @@MaroshBRuNo Oh that wasn't a fake laughter

  • @reidveryan9414
    @reidveryan9414 6 місяців тому +36

    The only thing I can take away from this is that Leslie hedlund sees morality, logic, and reason as evil.

  • @SvenReinck
    @SvenReinck 6 місяців тому +32

    The only thing I can imagine for Torbin is that he is so traumatized from the events that he tries to escape reality. And then Mae presents him a way to end his misery forever. But that’s just an idea.

    • @beesmitty3435
      @beesmitty3435 6 місяців тому +8

      ...great writing...
      "The man desperately trying to escape reality... Never thought of suicide.." yea that will make the characters more believable...

    • @CyberDustCapsuled
      @CyberDustCapsuled 6 місяців тому +6

      Torbin:
      So... we discovered evil dark side magic using witches who tried to kill us and mind raped me.
      ...
      I guess now I turn from Padawan right into a jedi MASTER and want to die for the rest of my life.

    • @DevilfishFace
      @DevilfishFace 6 місяців тому +4

      Made him obsessed with going home using mind control.

  • @ciontachthecthonicchampion3576
    @ciontachthecthonicchampion3576 6 місяців тому +13

    >try to portray themselves as the misunderstood outcasts being attacked by the prejudiced people in power
    >portray themselves as evil accidentally
    >They are actually the prejudiced people in power attacking the misunderstood

  • @BlazingOwnager
    @BlazingOwnager 6 місяців тому +40

    I was recently playing a PvPvE looter named Dark and Darker. This one guy turned all his combat buffs on, rushed me, and when I defended myself started saying "You hit first! You hit first!"
    That's the coven in this

  • @jimluebke3869
    @jimluebke3869 6 місяців тому +81

    "We never see why the Jedi are bad"
    That's because Headland doesn't know good from evil, it's just "power and who is allowed to use it."
    She's the one with The Platform, so everything she says is true, and everyone has to think like her now because that's what happens when you have The Platform.
    It never occurs to her that there is an objective reality out there that contradicts what she's saying on her platform.
    And it's not really a platform at all -- it's a stage, and she's being booed off of it. Not because what she's doing objectively _bad_ (because, remember, there is no objective truth), it's just her intersectional enemies trying to get the power that "it's her turn to have."
    If anything, all of this nonsense just goes to show how corrupt, vacant, nihilistic, and out-of-touch with reality her point of view really is.
    We can thank her for proving this with "the best piece of art she's ever made".

    • @69SalterStreet
      @69SalterStreet 6 місяців тому

      Such a good point. This bish is definitely a Sith. 😂

    • @thatHARVguy
      @thatHARVguy 6 місяців тому

      She "leaked" her hiring and held Disney hostage with the threat of the angry Twitter mob.
      From the very get-go she exercised an abuse of power.

    • @tompearce5418
      @tompearce5418 6 місяців тому +5

      On the other hand, the opening preamble of the novelisation of A New Hope explicitly states that the Galactic Republic was a majestic civilisation invulnerable to external assault but slowly rotting on the inside, beneath the surface where it wasn't immediately obvious. Part of the fun is spotting the factors that led directly to the rise of the Empire.

    • @jimluebke3869
      @jimluebke3869 6 місяців тому +5

      @@tompearce5418 The rot at Disney was very fast indeed. The rest of America was close behind -- except then the Backlash started. =)

    • @he-manworld6140
      @he-manworld6140 6 місяців тому +2

      @@tompearce5418 "The Acolyte" is not the way to tell that story. The Prequel Trilogy gave the audience that story.

  • @Rikalonius
    @Rikalonius 6 місяців тому +41

    In the Empire Strikes Back, Luke is stuck on Dagobah, and manages to get the survival supplies off his X-wing which includes a power supply that provides light, and energy to recharge his laptop (i.e. R2D2). Yet, 100 years earlier, in the dark times, Jedi sat near the fire, despite having hand-held devices that literally contain massive amounts of plasma energy that can cut a tree down with a single swipe. Good job, girls, this is why nobody respects your "science fiction"

    • @RoseBaggins
      @RoseBaggins 6 місяців тому +1

      Yup

    • @alannothnagle
      @alannothnagle 6 місяців тому +13

      And they're using old-fashioned metal detectors looking for... what now? Even the original Star Trek had effing tricorders! (BTW, the whole premise of the episode is pure Star Trek, i.e. surveying an alien planet for life. Why would Jedi Knights with such humdrum work? Wouldn't they have drones and droids to do it for them? And more importantly, since when do space monks bother with scientific research anyway? Since when has that been in their job description? It's screamingly obvious the showrunners have no understanding of Star Wars at all.)

    • @thatHARVguy
      @thatHARVguy 6 місяців тому

      @@alannothnagle They were there for 7 weeks and they didn't know about the coven? Scanners and probe droids exist, dammit. The very first thing you do once in orbit is conduct a sensor sweep. The witches collective body temperature would show up on thermal.

    • @mattpierre891
      @mattpierre891 6 місяців тому +7

      Why didn't they just stay in the ship instead of sitting by a campfire with all them 'skeeters?

    • @Rikalonius
      @Rikalonius 6 місяців тому +6

      @@mattpierre891 That's a good point also. It's not like the ship crashed like Luke's X-Wing, you'd think they'd taken a RV type ship since they've been there 7 weeks. Are they eating meal rations all this time. The whole show is dumbness.

  • @Edd25164605
    @Edd25164605 6 місяців тому +93

    I bailed after ep2.
    From all I've heard and read it looks like that was a good move.

    • @lukeluke333lukeluke
      @lukeluke333lukeluke 6 місяців тому +12

      Smart move! Don't waste any time watching this fan faction.

    • @demomanchaos
      @demomanchaos 6 місяців тому +13

      ​@@lukeluke333lukelukeit is not fan fiction, that would require the writers be fans or at least vaguely familiar with the source material

    • @weldsj8847
      @weldsj8847 6 місяців тому +7

      @@lukeluke333lukeluke I've seen better fan fiction! There's one on youtube Dave Cullens referenced about Vader coming upon a Temple for the Light Side and having a Luke in the swamp like experience from the other perspective. They can be fun. This? Junk!

    • @weldsj8847
      @weldsj8847 6 місяців тому +8

      I stopped watching Secret Invasion after 2 episodes. Now I know, when a show is this bad it is more fun to watch commentary like this one. Greatness from Just Some Guy.

    • @jdstudios1912
      @jdstudios1912 6 місяців тому +2

      I bailed after ahsoka

  • @djay6651
    @djay6651 6 місяців тому +34

    It's because the writers believe the way they portrayed the Jedi WAS showing they were evil. They believe anyone based are evil.

    • @adamaccountname
      @adamaccountname 6 місяців тому

      People who show concern for others and find odd cults suspicious are evil!!! Because if you apply the same reasoning in the real world those traits would make you question the writers politics

  • @timdaly9323
    @timdaly9323 6 місяців тому +27

    So this flashback was supposed to explain the previous nonsensical flashback, but now a third flashback is necessary to make sense of the current mess. And there’s only one episode left. Yeah, there’s no fixing this.

  • @LuigiTheMetal64
    @LuigiTheMetal64 6 місяців тому +124

    "The force is female" is bigoted to females since they are fine with male characters being the Jedi or ESPers.

    • @Ferox2121
      @Ferox2121 6 місяців тому +10

      The Force is stronger then the thread apparently, given that Trinity easily killed all the witches when she used the force to free the wookie.

    • @shinyrayquaza9
      @shinyrayquaza9 6 місяців тому +13

      The same people saying that also claimed rey was the first female jedi

  • @originaldarkwater
    @originaldarkwater 6 місяців тому +10

    If all the interviews around this show hadn't been "I want to portray the Sith as the underdogs" and "This show isn't kind to the Jedi", I could even believe it was intentional, to show how the dark side tries to twist words and events to turn people against the Jedi, and then show the truth later on.
    As it stands, I have to imagine a scenario where Headland told writers and directors what she wanted, but then completely failed to even oversee what they were doing and they decided to flip her ideas on their head because they didn't want to see the Jedi more denigrated than Disney already has done.

  • @jlhill17
    @jlhill17 6 місяців тому +22

    This flashback was set up by Mae asking Sol about what really happened on Brendok. Then in the flashback to get the answer. Except... Mae personally witnessed half of "what really happened", and the other half she personally CAUSED. This makes her question to Sol rip your suspension of disbelief to shreds. She knows good and well what happened, maybe even better than he does, because she knows how and why the fire started and who pushed her to do that. The writers can't even remember what they, themselves, have written.
    It seems like they were trying to make the Jedi look bad by reacting poorly to a tense situation, except they just created a pretty cut-and-dry example of self defense. The witches clearly instigated the violence. The Jedi were absolutely not to blame for anything wrong that happened. If this is what they think corruption looks like, then they have a terribly warped view of reality. I can't think of any other way to explain this.

  • @murky1608
    @murky1608 6 місяців тому +5

    The side by side of the witches mind controlling immediately followed by them dead is peak comedy.

  • @ziephel-6780
    @ziephel-6780 6 місяців тому +74

    "Help! my house is on fire!"
    Normal people: "We'll call the fire department"
    Woke Witches: "We'll kill you, Jedi!!"

  • @evanflynn4680
    @evanflynn4680 6 місяців тому +7

    Them:
    "We're edgy and controversial! Jedi are the bad guys!"
    The rest of us:
    "We know the Jedi were flawed. That was why Sidious was able to take them out in the first place. They were a well-intentioned space cult that deliberately taught their members to suppress emotions instead of process them healthily, then put them in high stakes diplomatic roles and made them space cops. Showing how flawed they were at the height of their power wouldn't be controversial for fans to see and just shows that these people don't know enough about Star Wars. And their failure to actually show them as bad, which was their central point they were trying to make shows they are bad at storytelling, too."

  • @user-us5dr2qi2r
    @user-us5dr2qi2r 6 місяців тому +44

    No one said DEI writers were good at their job.

    • @Jimmie2429
      @Jimmie2429 6 місяців тому +16

      DEI = Didn’t Earn It

    • @1992holycrap
      @1992holycrap 6 місяців тому +2

      Except the DEI writers themselves, who're basically nobody anyway.

  • @CordeliaWagner1999
    @CordeliaWagner1999 6 місяців тому +8

    "Are we the baddies?"
    "Hans, get the Flammenwerfer!"

  • @kennethellingsen5902
    @kennethellingsen5902 6 місяців тому +16

    What is worse, the stupid metal detectors, not able to locate a bigass stone fortress on top of a mountain or a jedi wookie with a lightsaber not being able to beat a 100 pound padawan twink...?

  • @thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852
    @thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852 6 місяців тому +10

    7 weeks? You'd think a Jedi Master could find a vergence in the force within minutes.

  • @pbh9195
    @pbh9195 6 місяців тому +53

    The problem with Leslie Headlend is she couldn't commit to an idea.
    If you wanna make the Jedi flawed by all means but do it in a way that actually makes sense, here there just stupid

    • @niklbauglir
      @niklbauglir 6 місяців тому +13

      She just collected together all the "cool" ideas she saw from other places and glued them together haphazardly.

    • @pbh9195
      @pbh9195 6 місяців тому +7

      @@niklbauglir I think your spot on with that.
      Look I've been forgiving about a lot of stuff in this show (save ki adi mundi cameo)
      But this mystery of what happened to the witches is so contrived.
      Worse we only have one episode left right when the current timeline was actually starting to get good, for me.
      There's too many issues that 1 ep can't wrap up

    • @sadface7457
      @sadface7457 6 місяців тому +7

      ​@@niklbauglirUnfornutely zero idea from kill bill and frozen made it into the show. We have yet to see any sister love or terintos dramatic styling

    • @LRich-hg3hu
      @LRich-hg3hu 6 місяців тому +11

      @sadface7457 The disturbing thing to me is that the Osha-Mae relationship *could* be how Headland views sisterly love. I say that based on two things:
      1. Headland described this story as a "love note to her sister" (those probably aren't the exact words, but something to that effect). And...
      2. Headland and her sister are estranged. Her sister refuses to even speak to her.
      That makes me think that maybe Headland things this "I love you so much I'll kill you if you leave me" type of love actually *is* a beautiful love shared by sisters.

    • @SelecaoOfMidas
      @SelecaoOfMidas 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@LRich-hg3huThe relationship reminds me a little bit of that between Savathün and Xivu Arath in in the Destiny franchise, but predicated on the "sword logic" or essentially "survival of the fittest" where combat and death are expressions of love.

  • @100Servings
    @100Servings 6 місяців тому +31

    You're having entirely too much fun. It's nice to hear you laugh. I like it.

    • @MaroshBRuNo
      @MaroshBRuNo 6 місяців тому

      I can't believe you haven't noticed the laughter was totally fake. It made me cringe every single time.

    • @100Servings
      @100Servings 6 місяців тому

      @@MaroshBRuNo Sounded pretty sincere to me. Yes, it's not a deep belly laugh, but he clearly finds the circumstances humorous.

  • @randomperson-up5vt
    @randomperson-up5vt 6 місяців тому +9

    No way him being homesick is actually a problem. They can travel between worlds in like 30 mins at every other point in the story. Just go home for two days a week to pick up provisions again.

  • @Jimmie2429
    @Jimmie2429 6 місяців тому +51

    $180 million? Where? Spent on what? Who green lit this budget? There has to be some money laundering going on here.

    • @alicianieto2822
      @alicianieto2822 6 місяців тому +16

      A big chunk of money got lost in creative accounting Im quite sure

    • @VespoLiveGaming
      @VespoLiveGaming 6 місяців тому +16

      This episode cost more than twice what Godzilla minus 1 did, and almost half of it is recycled footage from episode 3

    • @brotbrotsen1100
      @brotbrotsen1100 6 місяців тому +8

      16 writers and God knows how many other people are "working" on this, and you have to pay every one, probably a large amount.
      I unironically think this whole show is just there so headland and everyone else who is working on it can fill their pockets. Every single thing about this show screams low effort, there is no chance that the money went into anything that would increase the quality of this mess.

    • @LoneSilverW0lf
      @LoneSilverW0lf 6 місяців тому

      Laundering and embezzlement are strong in Hollywoke

  • @gabbycotto4024
    @gabbycotto4024 6 місяців тому +33

    >Mae really did try to kill OSHA for no reason
    >Horny Mommy is the one to talk her into it
    >Diverse Mommy tried to kill Mae cuz she’s innately evil & will ruin OSHA life if left alive
    >Sol attacked in reflexive defense of a child
    >Coven died of strain controlling one Wookie
    How are the witches victims of anything but their own arrogance & possessiveness? How are the Jedi evil for at most jumping the gun against child abusers & seeming-murderous shadow dust monsters? I’d say these people need morality coaches, but given how they behave IRL, just chuck them straight to jail.

    • @tompearce5418
      @tompearce5418 6 місяців тому +1

      These Jedi were acting in self defence after ignoring the Council's orders to steer clear.

    • @shayla106
      @shayla106 4 місяці тому

      @@tompearce5418 Because children were being hurt .

  • @brb1017
    @brb1017 6 місяців тому +25

    Harvey Weinstein's personal assistant wrote this so:
    1) she's going to write what she knows.
    2) she's probably not going to see any of that as making the space witches villains... or she'd probably have turned in Harvey long ago. 🤷‍♂️

  • @user-co7fo
    @user-co7fo 6 місяців тому +29

    She wasn't a collegue of Weinstein for nothing, alright?

  • @Gorbz
    @Gorbz 6 місяців тому +9

    It is funny because the "power of many" has proven itsself to be weaker than the power of one, every time it has been invoked so far.
    It was one, not many, that made OshaMae.
    It was one, which caused the deaths of the many via Force feedback.
    It was one, who used "the thread" to push back against two while teaching an example of the power of many.
    It was one, Smilo, who defeated the many, the Jedi. Yeah, they were mostly nameless extras and expected to not last, but the point still stands.

  • @lucyhardman2267
    @lucyhardman2267 6 місяців тому +3

    So, a teenager gets violated by someone in a position of power and a grown man develops a preoccupation with a young girl... and the woman in the team decides they should sweep all this under the rug? Anything you want to get off your chest there, Leslye?

  • @snafuthegreat
    @snafuthegreat 5 місяців тому +1

    "Just watched the Acolyte and I think i can officially say I've been in better written “Star Wars” movies."
    - Mia Malkova, adult film actress

  • @pacershark452
    @pacershark452 6 місяців тому +22

    This feels like a "protest episode" from the adults in the room at disney. Like RATIONAL people came together and said " we have to show them we're all not like kathleen kennedy."

  • @CarlWheatley-wi2cl
    @CarlWheatley-wi2cl 6 місяців тому +48

    Never mind not picking it up with ship scanners, the Jedi recon team spend nearly two months NEXT TO a giant fortress on a mountain without noticing it lol. It lights up at night ffs! I honestly don't know what Headlands intentions were for the Jedi because motive, continuity, cause and effect are all over the place. There's nothing that logic can hold onto in here. It's completely discombobulated.

  • @mizorenight3851
    @mizorenight3851 6 місяців тому +9

    With all that money and apparently infinite possiblities given to her, Leslie is just like a deer in front of a truck, unable to decide if she should jump left or right. Only difference to the deer is her being bludgeoned to a mess, lying on the ground, and still telling everyone how well she is doing and that everything is fine the way it is.

  • @Quazi-Moto
    @Quazi-Moto 6 місяців тому +11

    The term 'middle school fan fiction' has been tossed around in reference to this show's quality since the 2nd episode aired.
    Each successive week sees what was just conjecture and colloquialism being turned into undeniable fact.

  • @slimbombur7922
    @slimbombur7922 6 місяців тому +4

    Sometimes i think that different people write different parts of Disney stories and they never get together to compara notes.

  • @TheRealMonkeyrogue
    @TheRealMonkeyrogue 6 місяців тому +2

    From Headland's POV, The Witches of Dathomire must not have been able to be defeated by the Jedi. Which. No. Not the case for them, or the mystics of half a million others systems out there. They don't just misunderstand the Force, but the entire makeup of the universe in any way whatsoever.

  • @markmunroe-hz8rf
    @markmunroe-hz8rf 6 місяців тому +88

    Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic is more cannon than Disney's garbage.
    I often re-watch it to remind myself of what Star Wars could've been.

    • @sadface7457
      @sadface7457 6 місяців тому +13

      Those cut scence are have more plot then the acotyle

    • @Rikalonius
      @Rikalonius 6 місяців тому

      While sometimes cheesy, it has many, many better stories with many, many better female characters. Look at the 6' tall female Jedi "of color" in the one of the more recent episodes. She would have made a great Jedi in a show, with armor and a type of robe made t fit the armor. But no, all the Jedi have to be shown as weak.

    • @chilbiyito
      @chilbiyito 6 місяців тому

      You watch videogames?

    • @thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852
      @thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852 6 місяців тому +8

      ​@@chilbiyitoWell yeah you usually have to see it to play it. You don't watch what's going on when you play?

    • @Soup-man
      @Soup-man 6 місяців тому +2

      Those two games are better than the last two trilogies combined. I apologize for nothing.

  • @Byrvurra
    @Byrvurra 6 місяців тому +35

    There are no alarms of fire suppression systems because there were no men around to install them.

  • @stevesamuals2651
    @stevesamuals2651 6 місяців тому +4

    It still baffles me that the whole reason the cult die off is because a 4th grader is bored of his summer youth counselors field trip and wants to go home. That, and a single lantern burns down a stone fortress

  • @groovyengineer
    @groovyengineer 6 місяців тому +2

    I think the story is very telling of the state of Leslie's mind.
    Obviously she's tired of reasonable people, interrupting her evil spell conjuring, and mind manipulation of the youth.

  • @davfree9732
    @davfree9732 6 місяців тому +7

    Poor Torbin. He went to a place no Padawan should be forced to go and it traumatised him to the point that he tried to meditate the taste of well worn carpet away...
    But seriously, I suspect the Thread Witches so called mastery of the Force did something to his mind and he had to meditate to keep it at bay... only to see a way out when Mai came to him.
    His unaliving himself is thusly, completely unrelated to Mai's revenge quest.

  • @KuchiKopium
    @KuchiKopium 5 місяців тому +1

    Hearing JSG laughing as his mind is violated by this show was...kinda cathartic haha. He's usually so calm and composed, but this show broke even him

  • @gregorycollins6561
    @gregorycollins6561 6 місяців тому +4

    If they were raised in isolation from the rest of the galaxy, how do the twins even know about the Jedi?

  • @MarkLittle-rq2bq
    @MarkLittle-rq2bq 6 місяців тому +2

    Despite sending the worst Jedi who ever Jedied (lying in general/being deceitful, being emotional and/or emotionally driven, harboring attachments, and being covetous), they still manage to save a young girl's life from a decrepit mining facility on fire while dispatching a formerly hunted and exiled Dark Force coven of space witches despite the High Council's unwillingness to act. So, I guess the moral of the story is that you can have complete faith in the Jedi since even the worst they have to offer will still end up doing the right thing!
    Guess the good guys are...still the good guys - who knew?

  • @itismydump
    @itismydump 6 місяців тому +4

    Everyone was looking for the Bad Jedi payoff....instead, what we got was a "mystery" of misunderstanding on both sides and a series of accidents....so now, we have one episode to figure out the who, what, why, how, when of Smylo Ren....all in 30 minutes.
    And they have made Sol tooooo Feely, like how the heck you passed the Trials being that feely and emotional.

  • @MjolnirsPower
    @MjolnirsPower 6 місяців тому +7

    This is Diveristy hiring at it's Finest. Let THAT sink in.

  • @jasonreynolds6643
    @jasonreynolds6643 6 місяців тому +4

    Don’t forget that this was originally billed as a mashup between Kill Bill and Frozen. The point is that an accident created a rift between the sisters JUST LIKE IN FROZEN…

  • @victorstr9396
    @victorstr9396 6 місяців тому +5

    When one's moral compass is so twisted and distorted, the common and logical actions would seems abhorrent whilst the senseless and horrible actions become the Right things and the next.

  • @AntoineSojicYT
    @AntoineSojicYT 6 місяців тому +4

    And even when Torbin goes after the twin to show them to the Jedi Council so he can finally go home, it's perfectly understandable: He had just been mind-raped, and even such a violation wasn't enough for the Council to rapatriate him so he can have all the psychological support a Padawan might need in such a case; so of course, when the proof of a vergence in the Force - which appears in the series as one of the only reasons the Council would recalled them - seems at hand, he would try to get the proof that would entice the Council to stop their mission and summon them back to Coruscant.

  • @ash23neuro
    @ash23neuro 6 місяців тому +32

    Jedi Sol was collecting moss. Carrie-Anne Moss

    • @Rikalonius
      @Rikalonius 6 місяців тому +2

      I could be really, really bad about new moss, but I'd better not.

    • @pajamawolfie
      @pajamawolfie 6 місяців тому

      Carryin' moss

  • @Carloshache
    @Carloshache 6 місяців тому +6

    The Bene Gesserit of Dune would have had their way with the Acolyte witches pretty quickly.

  • @ProtonCannon
    @ProtonCannon 6 місяців тому +2

    19:43 I think the story seems to make the "argument" that the _"Jedi are these cold emotionless oppressors who deny your freedom to feel emotions, to be someone, to be happy or to love."_ That is why Indara is written to not show any compassion towards her Padawan.

  • @thatoneguy2786
    @thatoneguy2786 6 місяців тому +12

    Still one more episode until the big reveal that explains everything and brings every story thread to a perfect conclusion. /s

    • @alannothnagle
      @alannothnagle 6 місяців тому +6

      Perhaps everybody will just wake up and realize the whole series was just a nightmare...

    • @ozmanoshe
      @ozmanoshe 6 місяців тому +6

      I'll take things that will never happen for five dollars.

  • @tortenschachtel9498
    @tortenschachtel9498 6 місяців тому +2

    The Padawan may have had PTSD after the whole affair, hence his state.
    As for the rest: Let go, Luke!

  • @otisheckles6249
    @otisheckles6249 6 місяців тому +5

    "History of Violence" clip to start. Priceless! That's my fave go to for the insanity that surrounds me!

  • @sethcarnius3548
    @sethcarnius3548 6 місяців тому +4

    I like the torben mind violation argument, since I had the feeling, that Indara was more disappointed in him than concerned.

    • @PersonallyPerhaps
      @PersonallyPerhaps 6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah gave the vibe of Ugg I taught you better than this your such a disappointment.

  • @mxvega1097
    @mxvega1097 6 місяців тому +12

    Not even a treatment, just "random ideas on note cards". YES. And this is where I wonder about the process, consideration, testing, and the social dynamics in this writers' room and production. Bc it seems to me that there were a limited number of people involved in testing this script, limited challenge opportunities, very cosy happy clappy Slaay Kweeen BS and suffocating mutual admiration, you can almost smell the chardonnay fumes, and no external input - eg the lore, tech, world, time frames, continuity, tracking threads. And THAT's how you get unconstrained incompetence of this magnitude, failing at long narrative and theme as well as scene by scene.
    Holy shit, it wouldn't have been so hard to run through the entire script and ask "it is consistent on women in leadership?" or "are the Jedi portrayed consistently?" or "how many 180 degree motivation changes does Mae have?" or "why the pool scene?"
    Eg just on leadership: Mother Anaseya strikes first vs Torbin, so she's the aggressor, wildly overestimates the power of the coven, provokes jedi further with the smoke monster trick, she and Coril condemn the coven. Useless. Poor preservation of the purpose of the coven, and poor protection of the vulnerable.
    Master Indara is a poor leader to the team and to her padawan, flip flops on instructions, could have yoinked Torbin off the speeder and prevented him from going to Vag Mountain, then finally says let's lie to the Council to protect the dreams of this vergence child who half an hour earlier she was saying blah blah prime directive shit let's not interfere. Useless.
    So, it's all profoundly irritating, but the biggest problem for me is the social dynamic inside LFL that lets mindless, nonsensical, frankly risible writing get through. And I think it's about lousy internal competition, standards, and rebasing excellence to mean the clamor of fluffers and toadies surrounding celebrity producers. Thus first time this hit a real audience the producers and cast got a helluva shock bc they genuinely thought it was AWESOME.
    Next week: THE HOLE. The witch hole of Brenda reveals its secrets...

  • @justinmcclure6767
    @justinmcclure6767 6 місяців тому +5

    What if the twist was supposed to be that the space Witches were bad so they could bait us into critiquing it incorrectly

  • @jpteknoman
    @jpteknoman 6 місяців тому +3

    The thing with women using bows comes from a silly misconception that bows are all about dexterity when in reality bows take far more strength to use than any other weapon

  • @llperks
    @llperks 6 місяців тому +1

    “Think of a man. Then take away reason and accountability.”

  • @johndurham6172
    @johndurham6172 6 місяців тому +4

    This is what happens when you have to many writers and one team doesn't know what the other team has written.

  • @HeggyC
    @HeggyC 6 місяців тому +2

    Instant like for the phrase "watching someone fuck up a glass of water"

  • @drippi2129
    @drippi2129 6 місяців тому +26

    On the next episode of, The Agenda... Tampax and Diabetes take one the power of maannnnnyyyy. 😂😂

  • @Wolver101
    @Wolver101 6 місяців тому +3

    can i point out how gurl fought off a grown ass wookie, with a light saber and force powers, by herself and somehow a kid with a butter knife kills her in like 2 seconds

  • @ymca4547
    @ymca4547 6 місяців тому +3

    The former personal assistant to Harvey, should any of us really be surprised?

  • @TheGraemi
    @TheGraemi 6 місяців тому +3

    It's funny how some apologists say that Indara was the only "good" Jedi... No, she lied to the Jedi Council, she left here hurting padawan alone (or o), she couldn't control her team, mocked Sol, and if the witches didn't die, she left them to burn and at the end died by an inexperience wannabe-acolyte.

  • @waterbeauty85
    @waterbeauty85 6 місяців тому +4

    Regarding Anisaye (and Mae) dissolving into smoke, Leslye Headland herself said "Anisaye is transforming herself and Mae herself into the Force in a way that doesn't kill them" - basically becoming one with the Force/becoming some sort of force ghost without having to die first. Thing is, though Leslye is the showrunner, there were several screenwriters, and so Leslye's interpretation of that scene may not be what the screenwriters intended when they wrote it.

  • @victorfox2972
    @victorfox2972 6 місяців тому +4

    "We are better than you, because we have no noble intentions!" - so you are evil then

  • @DisGruntledPeon-be7iq
    @DisGruntledPeon-be7iq 6 місяців тому +3

    I know when I get the chance to listen to Nerdrotic and friends during Friday Night Tights the group can agree collectively too easily on the current state of Hollywood and the things they produce. I love your show as it's wonderfully detailed, catching all the writing tropes being misused, not group biased, and passionate because of the love you have for the shows we watch.
    I respect the perspective and pray you find the strength to go on after watching this garbage. You do the hard work so I don't have to; even the 15-min summaries are painful to listen even with your jibes, wit, mirth, snub, barbs and jokes. Keep up the beautiful work and I'm sure you perfected the art of water pouring. You are some guy.

    • @mrpurple11
      @mrpurple11 6 місяців тому +1

      100% with all you said. And yeah even the summaries are cringeworthy but he makes it all worth it and love his explanations.

  • @VPWedding
    @VPWedding 6 місяців тому +14

    Rather than do endless reshoots, they should shoot all scripts twice. The first time would be on a cheap soundstage or like Dr Who in the ‘70s. Then they could reshoot that to their hearts’ content, until they get something worth watching. Then go back and shoot it properly with no changes allowed once the script is finished.

  • @GNackers53
    @GNackers53 6 місяців тому +4

    For some reason, i find the fact that an organization built by women being toppled, or destroyed, by a single powerful woman to be the most believable thing in this show. I wonder why.

  • @josephkania642
    @josephkania642 6 місяців тому +2

    These "Jedi Witches" really look like the Honored Matres from Frank Herbert's later Dune books.