Can you spec me out a pc. This will be my first setup. I wanted to use the Ryzen 7 7800x3d cpu while utilizing the RX 7900xtx. I want to squeeze out every performance with out breaking the bank, like going with the Rtx 4090. If possible can you spec it out in white. Budget of $2500
@@e-ternallife8029 This is prolly late but are you looking for primarly gaming and what currency is $2500, usd or cad? Again if it's late just ignore this lol
I’m having to do an impromptu “upgrade” because I went to update my BIOS on an MSI board and it bricked. It’s so confusing and there are so many options I’m having choice paralysis. I’m 40 now and build many systems but now I don’t have time to dive into this for days to research and find the perfect setup. Thank you so much for a concise breakdown, brass tack facts, and not some UA-cam personality with an annoying voice. This felt like a bro giving me some advice and for that, I SO appreciate you. Liked, subscribed, and I’ll be a regular on your channel.
This guy is good. I do dissent on his recommendation to avoid the PCIe 5.0 MBs. Some of us keep our MBs for half a decade or more. Bought my current in 2018. It is only PCIe 3.0 because 3.0 was the best SSD on the market at the time. If it was 4.0, I would not be considering an upgrade today. If I want 5.0 storage in a couple of years, I don't want to have to rebuild on a new MB. Buying cheap today with no PCIe 5.0 means another upgrade would be necessary sooner. Might as well spend the extra $100 and have an MB that will be very useful in 3+ years.
Like I showed in the budget category. You CAN get PCI 5.0 for cheap with something like the ASRock board but it’s not a necessity. Thanks for the input! I think most buyers follow your same upgrade method.
I agree but definitely a budget issue for most. If you're upgrading to this board then more than likely, you're also upgrading your CPU to match the chipset, will need to upgrade ram for DDR5, and most likely a graphics card to not bottleneck unless you're rocking at least a 3090. Starts to add up pretty quick.
@@unIdentifieDskate I understand. However, if your budget doesn't allow you to make the most sensible / best value purchase for your gaming PC, then just wait until it does. Why rush an upgrade now just to have to pay more later?
@@michalk8520 I got one myself back in November. I wanted something with decent audio (alc4080) and space for two GPUs so I could screw around with PCI passthrough in VMs. Initially, as was the case with most AM5 boards early on, it took a weirdly long time to POST, but after a couple BIOS updates it's been much faster. I've been quite happy with it. And unlike Asus boards, it didn't melt my CPU.
theres a few points i disagree with about the B650/X670 "E" arguments: -higher cpu overclocks: no. its depending on the silicon-quality of the cpu itself - not on the motherboard -better vrm and & power delivery: well, mostly every cheap b650 can run a 7800x3d as it is very efficient and powerstages arent a problem on x670/b650 in general -higher memory overclocking: wrong. overclocking of ram depends mostly on the ram-controller of the cpu the only thing viable on the b650/x670 "E" motherboard is indeed PCIe 5.0 for the gpu. and even the newest 40-series nvidia dont support it. also this isnt bottlenetting gpu at all right now, so over the next few years there wont be a benefit in having pcie5.0 for the gpu. i run a cheap ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 with a 7800x3d and 6000cl30 ram just fine. 130€ for the board boottimes seems to be an issue on am5. gigabyte and some asrock are the fastest ones. asus and msi seem to be really slow.
Hey man, can you give a bit of advice. I am planning to get the same CPU and already have the Saphire Nitro 7900xtx OC. For the past few weeks my head is fuming from videos about different bords from 200 to 700$... While you just say all you need is that ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 that can smash that CPU and has no issues running 6000cl30 ram just fine ?! Wow.... mind to tell us more about the build, how did it went, Bios etc.... Any issues so far, what GPU, PSU do you have, model of RAM. Thanks :)
Excellent video. I've been overthinking this thing. I dont overclock, or any of that fancy stuff. Just looking for a solid dependable board. I dont think I can go wrong with the Tomahawk. Thanks!
This video made my mind up to buy the Rog Strix B650 E - F, I switched from intel to AMD and got this mobo with the 9800x3d and 32gb cl30 6000mt Corsair Dominator Titanium Ram, it's a great combo.
Another reason to get the Extreme chipsets is for mini-ITX systems with only 3 slots, one x16 & two other 4x for nvme. It makes sense to have 2/3rds of your slots being PCI-e 5.0.
Thanks Danny really well thought out and explained, going to build a ryzen 7900 system and will drop in the last chip that the board supports in 2025 (ie. 1800 to 5800) so been having difficulty deciding which board to go with 👍
I purchased ASRock X670E Steel Legend, I like all the features especially all the USB's this board came equipped with. It will hold 32 gigs of 7200 ram speed. I'm not a gamer but I do like a fast computer. I matched it up with 7900X. Now I'm waiting for parts to come in.
ALL reviews on ALL motherboards have the same big fail. They do not show the number of lanes available on any secondary pcie 16 slot.They could be 4 or 8 or even 16 electrically. Many add in boards require 8 lanes to function that means the only way to use them is put the GPU in a secondary slot. Yes this limitation is not a reviewer fail it is a manufacturer fail. But I would be nice to know at review time, to discount the board immediately.
That flashback is invalueable. Bought a new mobo and CPU. The website said that a 5000 series CPU would work. I was pissed when I found out that the BIOS had to be flashed for the CPU to work as I did not have an old CPU to flash the new mobo.
You should make a series called “7 second review”. Like all you say “yeah it’s good” or “no don’t bother get this instead” then link to your “yeah it’s good” video. Those id watch.
Hello, I plan to buy the 7800X3D. I am not interested in overclocking and want to buy the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F version because it is significantly cheaper than X670E-F. Do you recommend buying this CPU for a more "inferior" version like the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F. The X3D will work fine?
It sure will! The VRM and MosFets can handle that chip with no problem. I run an X570 board for AM4 but with the direction board manufactures have gone with price and performance, everything has gone up. I’ll most likely follow your lead and get a B550 board with a 7800X3D as well.
rather than the b650 tomahawk wifi I would rather get the b650e pg riptide wifi from asrock for 240, or if you want a white build the b650e steel legend wifi for $270 (although I got mine for $250, and relatively frequent sales have put it as low as $240).
Yeah I think I’m getting the B650E PG Riptide WiFi. If spending a little bit extra money means I can upgrade to a new gpu in a couple of years with pcie 5.0, I’m all for it
Good video! Thanks man you have a way to translate the specs and products into plain English lol, don’t get me wrong being super specific helps but also can tangle someone’s brain that’s a novice to the PC world. Subscribed!
Thanks. I try to keep it simple and easy to understand. Most people want something that just works, isn’t overly complicated, and comes in at a good price!
@@DannysTechChannel Hi, i want to buy the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WiFi and a Ryzen 7800x3d. DDo I need a bios update if I buy both of them new and want to install them?
I went with the Gigabyte Aorus b650 Elite Ax and the only problem I faced was my 6400mhz ram was not compatible so I ended up manually overclocking it to 6000mhz and I'm loving it so far.
@@maxdamage4919 I have the same board but the Lan seems to have intermittent issues. I updated the driver on Gigabyte, then went to Realtek but neither seemed to fix problem. To further isolate the issue i used the Wifi option, disabled the lan card and never had the problem again.
I would like to buy this motherboard Gigabyte Aorus b650 Elite Ax but I don't know what is the best box power supply with it and what did you use for the cpu refrigerator? aire or liquide ?@@maxdamage4919
@@DannysTechChannel it’s a little pricey. The pcie 5.0 stuff might not matter much now but with a few generations of support for the am5 it will be more future proof than any of the others
Micro Center has an amazing sale right now. The 5900x, Asus B650E STRIX, and 32GB of G.Skill DDR5 for $600. I don’t even have one close but I’m thinking about making a special trip for it
Thanks Danny! Saved me a bunch of money. I've always thought bigger was better, but you have convinced me that I've wasted a bunch of money over the years. Thanks again for the info!
I know this vid is a year old, but now is the time to buy a MB with PCIe 5 for GPU and M.2. The prices of the MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK are awesome, we get all the features and future slots for the upcoming RTX GPUS.
@@DannysTechChannel thank you so much. sir please give me a solid advice on which b650 should i get between MSI EDGE WIFI vs TOMAHAWK WIFI vs ASUS TUF GAMING PLUS?
I don't plan to do any OC so I am going to buy either MSI PRO B650-P WIFI or Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI. MSI is the cheapest B650, ATX motherboard with WiFi Asus on the other hand is top notch B650E motherboard with WiFi, Thunderbolt and double PCI-E 5.0 - probably would last to the end of AM5.
TY for your opinion. I was thinking about the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F and had second thoughts about other cheaper boards but now its confirm. I will go with Asus ROG Strix B650E-F for my build with Ryzen 7950X. Feels like that would be a futuristic investment.
I agree with your assessment, I have an amd ryzen 3900x system. Only reason I decided to upgrade is due to cpu and mobo issues. I am about to RMA it. Then I will give that one to my kid.
One thing you didn't talk about is the audio chipsets and the motherboards. Someone else mentioned that you don't get good audio on the cheaper boards. I really don't know much about this though but trying to figure it out.
If you have an OCZ Revodrive3 x2 and would like to run it on the AM5 motherboard make sure to get an ASUS motherboard. AsRock will not be able to recognize your Gen2 PCIe SSD
Hi Danny, I'm looking at building a new gaming rig for the first time in about 15 years and am interested in investing into the AM5 Platform and currently have the following components on the shopping list (budget is around £2,000). The games I like the look of are (I mainly play FPS and RTS games): Cyberpunk 2077, Doom Eternal, Call of Duty series, Overwatch 2, Borderlands 3 and such like. I believe combining the Ryzen 5 7600X with a GPU like the RX6800XT (or higher) will squeeze the most performance out of the system and also has an upgrade path built in (the Ryzen 5 7600X can cope with the fastest GPU on the market, even the monster known as the RTX 4090 - so maybe when the price drops). * CPU: Ryzen 5 7600X * GPU: Radeon RX6800 XT or the 6950 XT * Mobo: MSI MAG Tomahawk B650 WIFI * CPU cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin or DeepCool AK620 (or maybe an AIO Liquid Cooler like the Arctic Liquid Freezer 2) * RAM: Kingston Fury BEAST RGB 16GB (2x8GB) 5200 CL40 or similar * PSU: CoolerMaster MWE Gold 750W V2 Fully Modular or similar (min.750W, at least B-Tier) * Case: So many to choose from but 2 that I like are the Be Quiet! Silent Base 500DX and the Antec NX410 (ideally would like the Hyte Y60 but this is a tad pricey at over £200 and the GPU is the most important component of all) * Monitor: Gigabyte M28U (a 4k one). I'd be interested to know what you guys think of this proposed setup!
Great build choices. Only things I would modify is trying to find 6000MHz ram at that seems to be the sweet spot for price vs performance, either GPU would be great and definitely go for air cooling. Better reliability. I’ve had crappy luck with liquid coolers failing lately
Hello, I like every part of your build except the power supply. For now it is fine, but if you want to upgrade your cpu and video card in the future, 750 may not be enough
In my country, the MSI X670E Gaming Plus WIFI is the same price as many B650 boards. I kind of like every spec except the entry-level audio chipset (7.1 (Realtek ALC897). For 240€, I will probably get this for my ordered 7 8700x3d. I know PCIe 5 will be useless in the next few years, but I plan on keeping this motherboard for at least 6-8 years.
Where I am, the MSI Pro B650M-A WIFI board worked out as the best value. I'm not sure if this was available at the time of the video. Hard drives are never, ever fast enough, so I went hunting for a 5.0 M.2 drive and just couldn't find one. Wifi isn't essential but I've found wifi dongles can be temperamental. Will be the first build I've ever done without hard drive cables floating around. And why is the USB standard so fucked that it describing a USB port requires verbal gymnastics?
In a bit of a trouble here, looking to upgrade my 10900k to a 7800x3d but based on the recent news, ASUS boards are a no-go, MSI has high boot times and some Gigabyte boards apparently have very bad coil whine. Any fool-proof recommendations at around 300usd price point that are worth checking out?
If I was buying AM5 right now, I’d go for the MSI option. Least worry and easiest issues to deal with. I’ve had a good experience with their components.
Yeah but still IF you have an old PC booting Windows in EG 15 seconds you dont want to get new one with 40 sec boot times or even 90 without tweaking in BIOS and make the system unstable...
Hello. My name is Joe. I did my first and only new build almost exactly 1 year ago. My motherboard is an Asus ROG Strix B550-E gaming w/wifi and blue tooth, Ryzen 5 3600 CPU w/Wraith Stealth cooler, EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G5, 80 Plus Gold 850W power supply, G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 3200 SDRAM, two Western Digital 1TB WD Blue SN550 NVMe Internal SSD's, and a very old, but still functioning WD 4TB mechanical HD, all in a Phanteks Eclipse P400A atx case. I had to settle for a crappy GPU because, well, it was 2021 and GPU prices were prohibitively expensive. It works, and I am happy with my build, but I want to upgrade...especially the GPU. My questions to you are as follows: 1. Should I keep the B550-E, or go with the new Asus ROG strix B650E-F, knowing I will also have to replace the memory and the CPU? 2. If I replace the MB, What CPU are you recommending? The new AMD 7950's are having real issues, i am hearing. I am NOT interested in Intel CPU's. I'm an AMD fan. 3 If I keep the B550-E, I am looking at getting the AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 6950 XT, and adding another 32GB of memory. I think this may be the best route to go. What is your opinion? Thank you for your input. Your video was very clear and concise.
The platform you have is great. I’d stick with that and simply upgrade. I think you have a good plan with a solid choice for parts. I was going to get zen 5 stuff now that motherboards have come down in price but I think I’ll be skipping this generation with all the early adopter issues they’ve been having.
i'm only intersted in uprading to a rysen 7000 mb with 8 sata ports for my 3,5 hdd setup. not many to chose from. Chould i buy a cheap MB (not interested overclocking) with fiew sata ports and a buy a pci card with extra sata ports on , Do the cheapest ryzen 7k board has enuf pci lanes to for add on sata ports ?
Hey guys, I’m about to build my first PC for work. I’m planning to use the Ryzen 9 7950X with a B650 motherboard since the price of X670 is quite high in my country. Are there any risks or limitations with this setup? (If possible, could you recommend some B650 models?) Thanks for your advice!
i'm gonna combo the 7700x with a b650e-e and some good 6400mhz ram. My current mpbo is from an old prebuilt, and my cpu is on it's last few months of life (r5 2600), so it's gonna be a very noce upgrade
I'm debating whether to do a mid-range build (27" 1440p monitor, 5800X3D, RTX 4070ti) for ~$3,000CAD Or go ballz to the wallz with a 4k OLED (LG C2), 7800X3D, RTX 4080/90 (I have a huge desk that's 3 feet deep and I'd be using it for mostly games & movies/TV shows so 42" is not excessive for my desk) for ~$6,000CAD I currently have a 24" 1080p 60hz monitor paired with a 1st generation intel CPU lol.
That’s quite a different path and either one is a massive upgrade over your current setup. I’d go for the higher-end one. This will last you longer and give you a future upgrade path.
I think the Asrock B650 Livemixer is a solid choice too. Lots of USB-A. One PCIe 4.0 x16 and x4 directly off of the CPU and one x4 off the chipset, all physical x16. You can even put in a Thunderbolt card. Btw. be aware of the boards that have a two PCIe slots off the CPU. Some split them to x8/x8 when plugging cards in both. This can slow down your GPU by 5% to 10% !!! because now it only has an PCIe 4.0 x8 instead of x16. Also, bios flashback is required by AMD to be on every board.
What MB, CPU, Graphics card would you recommend for a Pro Photographer with intentions of also doing some video? My software won't presently run -- it tells me I need some version of "Vulkan" -- which I do not have. Faster & better and also to run some of the new "AI" program parts. {I tend to keep my PC's for a looong time.}
Hey i'm building a pc with a ryzen 7600. What B650M board do you recommend for futureproofing? (Planning to upgrade to a 8000X3D serries when they'll come out)
What about lines to connect CPU with M2 SSD and GPU?. I think if you have one GPU and 2 SSD M2 only two of then can connect to CPU at the same time?. It is a bit confused for me. How can i check this?.
For my build I was planning to go for the b650 tomahawk but somebody recommended the x670 tomahawk and I was confused to why since it was more expensive . Yeah I might not need the x670 , even though I want to look into over clocking
I'm currently running a 7900X set to 65W TDP on a MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk. It has a horrible, high-pitched, electrical whine / crackling noise coming from the CPU. I'm using a passive CPU cooler (no fans), No GPU (using onboard graphics), and all case fans at 0 RPM. So, it's not anything mechanical that is making the noise. Any suggestions as to which board or boards will have the least propensity to experience coil whine?
I don’t. I’ve had that problem with the MSI ACE board back in the day with intel but haven’t had that happen since. Never experienced that on any other motherboard.
i am looking to build a new PC, looking at AM5 with the 7800x3D setup. was wondering if i should wait till after CES 2024 and hope for further price reduction since the new proc are releasing
Ok so I have an Xbox Series X and I'm looking to switch over to PC and also have my gaming at pretty much 4k 60fps and actually have an upgrade from the Xbox. I thi k I'm going with the Ryzen 7800X3D and want a good motherboard that's also a little future proof. Any ideas. The graphics card a saw that seems good is the Radeon RX 7900XTX which is a bit pricey but I don't want it to be out classed in a year or 2
You don’t need to go all out on the motherboard. A B650 board will do just fine. I usually look at the rear I/O like USB ports and Ethernet speeds to make sure it’s got everything I want. I also look at how many PWM fan headers it has. I like all my cable routing to be easy. So I’d say it really depends more on what case you choose than “future proofing”
I just decided to watch this review and please mind wrong statements like the one that "E"-variant chipsets are for overclocking @2:07. I know you have exposed all the features correctly, but this statement is misleading.
I didn’t say they are specifically for overclocking but the Extreme motherboards typically have better VRM AND MOSFETs which aids in better overclocking results. The non-E motherboards are the best option for most buyers.
can you suggest me some value for money motherboard for ryzen 7 7700x ! will going for the b650 mobos an ideal choice ! or I should go for x670 series ones ! I I'm in budget actually.
There’s only about 4 choices when it comes to B650 boards. I’d say go for the cheapest one cuz almost $300 for a motherboard is crazy when you could get AM4 and it would be great for gaming in 2023.
?? thats confusing dude. the first recommended board is the asrock riptide. thats also available als b650e. in the end you talk about how great the asus board is. which is way more expensive than the b650e riptide.
What about mini itx boards for DDR5. First time builder here trying to wrap my head around all this stuff! 1440p and 4K setup is the way to go. Got a good deal on 7700x. By the time I gather all my parts though, people will already be moved on! Lol.
So I'm not allowed to sell some or all of my current system to offset the cost of upgrafe? I'm pretty sure AM4 parts are in high demand. AM5 will be around for a long time so the cost of platform upgrase should be spread out across several years.
My old pc retired and i was thinking going 7600x, now im having trouble with deciding which mobo i should go, stability and reliability is the most important factor for me. Would you have any opinions or suggestions for 200-230ish range? Personally ive been looking at msi tomahawk, gigabyte aorus elite ax and gigabyte gaming x ax, well mainly the first two i think. Tomahawk would be the cheapest and aorus would be around 20-30 bucks higher.
By the time PCie 5.0 GPUs, Drives hit the market, 6.0 will be released. Shame that PCie 5.0 products wasn't released with these high end over engineered boards.
@@DannysTechChannel Building a limbo system right now. Probably done it to clear older Nvme PCie 3.0,4.0 old stock before the next gen ones hit the market.
Yeah, I don't think it's appropriate to say B stands for budget anymore when they have budget boards starting and going so high. And I thought Intel boards were getting too expensive haha
Just bought a gigabyte aorus b650M with a 7600x. Do I need to flash the BIOS before adding my CPU ? im so confuse !! Some people tell me to flash it (cause it wont work otherwise) and others tell me that it will be fine. Any advice ?
Tough choices. Asus TUF x670e is the same price as the b650ef right now. Both are overpriced tbh. Gigabyte B650 Elite AX on the other hand is $100 cheaper.
Depends what you want from it. The B450 motherboard won’t have PCI 4.0 capabilities. If you just want the increased CPU performance, you can simply update the BIOS and throw the 5700X into your B450 board
@Veezo Uptown I've got x470 for the 3900x, x570 for the 5950x, and the others are b550s. I wouldn't go out and buy a new mobo. If it's a good one like a b450 tomahawk I'd update the bios and install a 5800xt. Pcie4.0 isn't that big of a deal for me as most my drives are still 3.0. I think it all depends on budget though. My x470 mobo did have a 2700x and I sold it and upgraded to the 3900x that was in my x570. That way I could get the 5950x which I got a steal of a deal very early on after release
I think i dont want to over spend. Dont know if its necessary to get a am5 board if computer games haven't caught up to the technology. Am4 board with ryzen 5 or 7 is more than enough for games that have a proper graphics card. That would be the only part to upgrade in my opinion and the needs of a system.
I have the Asrock Riptide Wifi and haven't had any issues. I'm running a 7900xtx and 7800x3d so maybe I should have gone with a higher end board but eh it works.
Great video, I really wish I knew someone who needed a pc built so I could build one. I enjoy putting the specs together and building them.
help me 🫡
Can you spec me out a pc. This will be my first setup. I wanted to use the Ryzen 7 7800x3d cpu while utilizing the RX 7900xtx. I want to squeeze out every performance with out breaking the bank, like going with the Rtx 4090. If possible can you spec it out in white. Budget of $2500
@@e-ternallife8029 This is prolly late but are you looking for primarly gaming and what currency is $2500, usd or cad? Again if it's late just ignore this lol
I’m having to do an impromptu “upgrade” because I went to update my BIOS on an MSI board and it bricked. It’s so confusing and there are so many options I’m having choice paralysis. I’m 40 now and build many systems but now I don’t have time to dive into this for days to research and find the perfect setup.
Thank you so much for a concise breakdown, brass tack facts, and not some UA-cam personality with an annoying voice. This felt like a bro giving me some advice and for that, I SO appreciate you. Liked, subscribed, and I’ll be a regular on your channel.
That’s great! I’m glad I could help make your shopping experience easy. Ever have any questions, feel free to message me on Twitter.
I just built a 7700x build with a Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX. Came out nice.
This guy is good. I do dissent on his recommendation to avoid the PCIe 5.0 MBs.
Some of us keep our MBs for half a decade or more. Bought my current in 2018. It is only PCIe 3.0 because 3.0 was the best SSD on the market at the time. If it was 4.0, I would not be considering an upgrade today.
If I want 5.0 storage in a couple of years, I don't want to have to rebuild on a new MB. Buying cheap today with no PCIe 5.0 means another upgrade would be necessary sooner. Might as well spend the extra $100 and have an MB that will be very useful in 3+ years.
Like I showed in the budget category. You CAN get PCI 5.0 for cheap with something like the ASRock board but it’s not a necessity. Thanks for the input! I think most buyers follow your same upgrade method.
same
Those were my exact toughts
I agree but definitely a budget issue for most. If you're upgrading to this board then more than likely, you're also upgrading your CPU to match the chipset, will need to upgrade ram for DDR5, and most likely a graphics card to not bottleneck unless you're rocking at least a 3090. Starts to add up pretty quick.
@@unIdentifieDskate I understand. However, if your budget doesn't allow you to make the most sensible / best value purchase for your gaming PC, then just wait until it does. Why rush an upgrade now just to have to pay more later?
Just went with the MSI Tomahawk for a 7600X build - seems like a decent feature set for the money.
How are you liking it so far?
I just ordered one yesterday. 😊
@@michalk8520 I got one myself back in November. I wanted something with decent audio (alc4080) and space for two GPUs so I could screw around with PCI passthrough in VMs. Initially, as was the case with most AM5 boards early on, it took a weirdly long time to POST, but after a couple BIOS updates it's been much faster. I've been quite happy with it. And unlike Asus boards, it didn't melt my CPU.
still rocking the B350 Tomahawk with a 1600x and of course will be going MSI for my jump to AM5. Asus bad lol
what graphics card you using?
theres a few points i disagree with about the B650/X670 "E" arguments:
-higher cpu overclocks: no. its depending on the silicon-quality of the cpu itself - not on the motherboard
-better vrm and & power delivery: well, mostly every cheap b650 can run a 7800x3d as it is very efficient and powerstages arent a problem on x670/b650 in general
-higher memory overclocking: wrong. overclocking of ram depends mostly on the ram-controller of the cpu
the only thing viable on the b650/x670 "E" motherboard is indeed PCIe 5.0 for the gpu. and even the newest 40-series nvidia dont support it. also this isnt bottlenetting gpu at all right now, so over the next few years there wont be a benefit in having pcie5.0 for the gpu.
i run a cheap ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 with a 7800x3d and 6000cl30 ram just fine. 130€ for the board
boottimes seems to be an issue on am5. gigabyte and some asrock are the fastest ones. asus and msi seem to be really slow.
These bootimes issues are making the boot time with a significant difference? I was thinking in get a B650 Mortar Wifi or a B650 Aorus Pro Ax
@@adrianomephisto8869 you can check out the video from hardware-unboxed. he tested vrm, boottime and performance. b650 mortar seems decent
Hey man, can you give a bit of advice. I am planning to get the same CPU and already have the Saphire Nitro 7900xtx OC.
For the past few weeks my head is fuming from videos about different bords from 200 to 700$...
While you just say all you need is that ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 that can smash that CPU and has no issues running 6000cl30 ram just fine ?!
Wow.... mind to tell us more about the build, how did it went, Bios etc.... Any issues so far, what GPU, PSU do you have, model of RAM.
Thanks :)
Excellent video. I've been overthinking this thing. I dont overclock, or any of that fancy stuff. Just looking for a solid dependable board. I dont think I can go wrong with the Tomahawk. Thanks!
You bet! That’s what I’m saying. Most people just want something that’s reliable, handles the CPU they want, and comes in at a decent price.
This video made my mind up to buy the Rog Strix B650 E - F, I switched from intel to AMD and got this mobo with the 9800x3d and 32gb cl30 6000mt Corsair Dominator Titanium Ram, it's a great combo.
Great comparison Danny, I went with the Asrock B650m Riptide, which actually has 5 fan header actually
Another reason to get the Extreme chipsets is for mini-ITX systems with only 3 slots, one x16 & two other 4x for nvme. It makes sense to have 2/3rds of your slots being PCI-e 5.0.
Thanks Danny really well thought out and explained, going to build a ryzen 7900 system and will drop in the last chip that the board supports in 2025 (ie. 1800 to 5800) so been having difficulty deciding which board to go with 👍
I purchased ASRock X670E Steel Legend, I like all the features especially all the USB's this board came equipped with. It will hold 32 gigs of 7200 ram speed. I'm not a gamer but I do like a fast computer. I matched it up with 7900X. Now I'm waiting for parts to come in.
ALL reviews on ALL motherboards have the same big fail. They do not show the number of lanes available on any secondary pcie 16 slot.They could be 4 or 8 or even 16 electrically. Many add in boards require 8 lanes to function that means the only way to use them is put the GPU in a secondary slot. Yes this limitation is not a reviewer fail it is a manufacturer fail. But I would be nice to know at review time, to discount the board immediately.
That flashback is invalueable. Bought a new mobo and CPU. The website said that a 5000 series CPU would work. I was pissed when I found out that the BIOS had to be flashed for the CPU to work as I did not have an old CPU to flash the new mobo.
Great video, thanks a lot for the effort!
You should make a series called “7 second review”. Like all you say “yeah it’s good” or “no don’t bother get this instead” then link to your “yeah it’s good” video. Those id watch.
Hello,
I plan to buy the 7800X3D. I am not interested in overclocking and want to buy the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F version because it is significantly cheaper than X670E-F. Do you recommend buying this CPU for a more "inferior" version like the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F. The X3D will work fine?
It sure will! The VRM and MosFets can handle that chip with no problem. I run an X570 board for AM4 but with the direction board manufactures have gone with price and performance, everything has gone up. I’ll most likely follow your lead and get a B550 board with a 7800X3D as well.
rather than the b650 tomahawk wifi I would rather get the b650e pg riptide wifi from asrock for 240, or if you want a white build the b650e steel legend wifi for $270 (although I got mine for $250, and relatively frequent sales have put it as low as $240).
Yeah I think I’m getting the B650E PG Riptide WiFi. If spending a little bit extra money means I can upgrade to a new gpu in a couple of years with pcie 5.0, I’m all for it
Thanks danny this will help me on my plan build.
Good video! Thanks man you have a way to translate the specs and products into plain English lol, don’t get me wrong being super specific helps but also can tangle someone’s brain that’s a novice to the PC world. Subscribed!
Thanks. I try to keep it simple and easy to understand. Most people want something that just works, isn’t overly complicated, and comes in at a good price!
@@DannysTechChannel Hi, i want to buy the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WiFi and a Ryzen 7800x3d. DDo I need a bios update if I buy both of them new and want to install them?
Most likely not. It should just be plug and play since the X3D chips are the same base architecture
Amazing information, very clear !! thanks
I went with the Gigabyte Aorus b650 Elite Ax and the only problem I faced was my 6400mhz ram was not compatible so I ended up manually overclocking it to 6000mhz and I'm loving it so far.
i have the same mother, is an excelent choice , dont mention low temps. Asus is the worst election.
@@maxdamage4919 I have the same board but the Lan seems to have intermittent issues. I updated the driver on Gigabyte, then went to Realtek but neither seemed to fix problem. To further isolate the issue i used the Wifi option, disabled the lan card and never had the problem again.
I would like to buy this motherboard Gigabyte Aorus b650 Elite Ax but I don't know what is the best box power supply with it and what did you use for the cpu refrigerator? aire or liquide ?@@maxdamage4919
Aorus b650 Elite Ax its top tier mobo, good choice ... soo funny that this guy doesnt recommand it in the video
Got the ASUS 650e for my 7900x. Couldn't be happier with it
Thanks for the input. I’m thinkin about picking it up
@@DannysTechChannel it’s a little pricey. The pcie 5.0 stuff might not matter much now but with a few generations of support for the am5 it will be more future proof than any of the others
Micro Center has an amazing sale right now. The 5900x, Asus B650E STRIX, and 32GB of G.Skill DDR5 for $600. I don’t even have one close but I’m thinking about making a special trip for it
@@DannysTechChannel that’s actually what I did. It was about 90 minutes and $650 after tax with some thermal compound
did you have any issues with the fan headers at all? i was reading some people having issues with daisy chaining and stuff?
Thanks Danny! Saved me a bunch of money. I've always thought bigger was better, but you have convinced me that I've wasted a bunch of money over the years. Thanks again for the info!
Anytime! Glad it helped. Enjoy your PC
ASrock X670E Steel Legend is a great option too.
So, in your conclusion, you compared previous generation to current, while not comparing the 7000 series boards..
I know this vid is a year old, but now is the time to buy a MB with PCIe 5 for GPU and M.2. The prices of the MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK are awesome, we get all the features and future slots for the upcoming RTX GPUS.
I bought the Tomahawk 650 and looking for reviews everyone else was was to techy like I would know everything thx for making it simple 😢
Anytime!
did you face any bios issue that everyone is talking about?
Nope, not at all. I’ve updated my BIOS for the X3D processors. That’s all.
@@DannysTechChannel thank you so much. sir please give me a solid advice on which b650 should i get between
MSI EDGE WIFI vs TOMAHAWK WIFI vs ASUS TUF GAMING PLUS?
Totally up to your style. They are all good boards but I’d go between either the tomahawk or the TUF. My personal favorites
I don't plan to do any OC so I am going to buy either MSI PRO B650-P WIFI or Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI.
MSI is the cheapest B650, ATX motherboard with WiFi
Asus on the other hand is top notch B650E motherboard with WiFi, Thunderbolt and double PCI-E 5.0 - probably would last to the end of AM5.
TY for your opinion. I was thinking about the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F and had second thoughts about other cheaper boards but now its confirm. I will go with Asus ROG Strix B650E-F for my build with Ryzen 7950X. Feels like that would be a futuristic investment.
im building a 7800x3d on a MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI
I agree with your assessment, I have an amd ryzen 3900x system. Only reason I decided to upgrade is due to cpu and mobo issues. I am about to RMA it. Then I will give that one to my kid.
Last - most expensive board, but lacks: 1) no spdif digital audio output, 2) no biosh flasback on rear side visible...(maybe not at all?)
I think all current motherboards are underwhelming, so get the cheapest thing you can get since you're going to end up replacing it inevitably.
No regrets with my rog strix b650e-f with a R9 7900x
Is it good? i want to build the same
I went with MSI PRO A620M-E and Ryzen 5 7600, 300$ both overclocking is dead anyway and hopefully future CPUs will be more efficient with lower TDP.
Why is Mark Strong giving PC Tech recommendations?
Anyway i took the B650 Tomahawk for my 7800X3D. Thx.
Good video wish I watched this befor I bought my new motherboard for my new pc build but thank you for sharing
Thanks a bunch! Hopefully I can help ya with your next upgrade
Tnx it helped alot❤
You bet!
Thank you! I'll buy the last asus one
One thing you didn't talk about is the audio chipsets and the motherboards. Someone else mentioned that you don't get good audio on the cheaper boards. I really don't know much about this though but trying to figure it out.
Generally a $20 USB DAC beats most onboard audio. I don't even bother with motherboard audio chipsets anymore and disable them in BIOS.
@@ravneiv Do you have any decent recommendations that are around the price you mentioned?
Which motherboards support booting from the ssd on pcie ?
If you have an OCZ Revodrive3 x2 and would like to run it on the AM5 motherboard make sure to get an ASUS motherboard. AsRock will not be able to recognize your Gen2 PCIe SSD
Hi Danny, I'm looking at building a new gaming rig for the first time in about 15 years and am interested in investing into the AM5 Platform and currently have the following components on the shopping list (budget is around £2,000). The games I like the look of are (I mainly play FPS and RTS games): Cyberpunk 2077, Doom Eternal, Call of Duty series, Overwatch 2, Borderlands 3 and such like. I believe combining the Ryzen 5 7600X with a GPU like the RX6800XT (or higher) will squeeze the most performance out of the system and also has an upgrade path built in (the Ryzen 5 7600X can cope with the fastest GPU on the market, even the monster known as the RTX 4090 - so maybe when the price drops).
* CPU: Ryzen 5 7600X
* GPU: Radeon RX6800 XT or the 6950 XT
* Mobo: MSI MAG Tomahawk B650 WIFI
* CPU cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin or DeepCool AK620 (or maybe an AIO Liquid Cooler like the Arctic Liquid Freezer 2)
* RAM: Kingston Fury BEAST RGB 16GB (2x8GB) 5200 CL40 or similar
* PSU: CoolerMaster MWE Gold 750W V2 Fully Modular or similar (min.750W, at least B-Tier)
* Case: So many to choose from but 2 that I like are the Be Quiet! Silent Base 500DX and the Antec NX410 (ideally would like the Hyte Y60 but this is a tad pricey at over £200 and the GPU is the most important component of all)
* Monitor: Gigabyte M28U (a 4k one).
I'd be interested to know what you guys think of this proposed setup!
Great build choices. Only things I would modify is trying to find 6000MHz ram at that seems to be the sweet spot for price vs performance, either GPU would be great and definitely go for air cooling. Better reliability. I’ve had crappy luck with liquid coolers failing lately
@@DannysTechChannelhat mother board would you recommend with the 7800x3d
@@JasonXBeats yes safe some money and go for this cpu :)
Hello, I like every part of your build except the power supply. For now it is fine, but if you want to upgrade your cpu and video card in the future, 750 may not be enough
In my country, the MSI X670E Gaming Plus WIFI is the same price as many B650 boards. I kind of like every spec except the entry-level audio chipset (7.1 (Realtek ALC897). For 240€, I will probably get this for my ordered 7 8700x3d. I know PCIe 5 will be useless in the next few years, but I plan on keeping this motherboard for at least 6-8 years.
Where I am, the MSI Pro B650M-A WIFI board worked out as the best value. I'm not sure if this was available at the time of the video. Hard drives are never, ever fast enough, so I went hunting for a 5.0 M.2 drive and just couldn't find one. Wifi isn't essential but I've found wifi dongles can be temperamental. Will be the first build I've ever done without hard drive cables floating around. And why is the USB standard so fucked that it describing a USB port requires verbal gymnastics?
I agree. I feel like it just keeps getting more and more complex. I wish it would have been simpler.
I have the Asrock b650e pg riptide wifi and so far it's really awesome
thanks for this
Best in depth video I have ever watched. Amazing video full of information I needed. Subscribed and liked.
In a bit of a trouble here, looking to upgrade my 10900k to a 7800x3d but based on the recent news, ASUS boards are a no-go, MSI has high boot times and some Gigabyte boards apparently have very bad coil whine. Any fool-proof recommendations at around 300usd price point that are worth checking out?
If I was buying AM5 right now, I’d go for the MSI option. Least worry and easiest issues to deal with. I’ve had a good experience with their components.
Yeah but still IF you have an old PC booting Windows in EG 15 seconds you dont want to get new one with 40 sec boot times or even 90 without tweaking in BIOS and make the system unstable...
i just ordered a b650 plus wifi and i'm gonna get the r9
whered the battery on the asrock b650m pg riptide located?
Hello. My name is Joe. I did my first and only new build almost exactly 1 year ago. My motherboard is an Asus ROG Strix B550-E gaming w/wifi and blue tooth, Ryzen 5 3600 CPU w/Wraith Stealth cooler, EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G5, 80 Plus Gold 850W power supply, G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 3200 SDRAM, two Western Digital 1TB WD Blue SN550 NVMe Internal SSD's, and a very old, but still functioning WD 4TB mechanical HD, all in a Phanteks Eclipse P400A atx case. I had to settle for a crappy GPU because, well, it was 2021 and GPU prices were prohibitively expensive. It works, and I am happy with my build, but I want to upgrade...especially the GPU.
My questions to you are as follows:
1. Should I keep the B550-E, or go with the new Asus ROG strix B650E-F, knowing I will also have to replace the memory and the CPU?
2. If I replace the MB, What CPU are you recommending? The new AMD 7950's are having real issues, i am hearing. I am NOT interested in Intel CPU's. I'm an AMD fan.
3 If I keep the B550-E, I am looking at getting the AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 6950 XT, and adding another 32GB of memory. I think this may be the best route to go.
What is your opinion? Thank you for your input. Your video was very clear and concise.
The platform you have is great. I’d stick with that and simply upgrade. I think you have a good plan with a solid choice for parts. I was going to get zen 5 stuff now that motherboards have come down in price but I think I’ll be skipping this generation with all the early adopter issues they’ve been having.
What about B650M? What's that? Gigabyte has it. I'm thinking at ASRock X670E PRO RS and X670E PG Lightning. Both are around 300$ in my country.
i'm only intersted in uprading to a rysen 7000 mb with 8 sata ports for my 3,5 hdd setup. not many to chose from. Chould i buy a cheap MB (not interested overclocking) with fiew sata ports and a buy a pci card with extra sata ports on , Do the cheapest ryzen 7k board has enuf pci lanes to for add on sata ports ?
Hey guys, I’m about to build my first PC for work. I’m planning to use the Ryzen 9 7950X with a B650 motherboard since the price of X670 is quite high in my country. Are there any risks or limitations with this setup? (If possible, could you recommend some B650 models?) Thanks for your advice!
What about the msi mag x670e tomahawk wifi?
i'm gonna combo the 7700x with a b650e-e and some good 6400mhz ram. My current mpbo is from an old prebuilt, and my cpu is on it's last few months of life (r5 2600), so it's gonna be a very noce upgrade
what are unproblematic rams from b650s? i heard quite a few rams simply do not work and have massive problems if they are intel optimized
I'm debating whether to do a mid-range build (27" 1440p monitor, 5800X3D, RTX 4070ti) for ~$3,000CAD
Or go ballz to the wallz with a 4k OLED (LG C2), 7800X3D, RTX 4080/90 (I have a huge desk that's 3 feet deep and I'd be using it for mostly games & movies/TV shows so 42" is not excessive for my desk) for ~$6,000CAD
I currently have a 24" 1080p 60hz monitor paired with a 1st generation intel CPU lol.
That’s quite a different path and either one is a massive upgrade over your current setup. I’d go for the higher-end one. This will last you longer and give you a future upgrade path.
I think the Asrock B650 Livemixer is a solid choice too. Lots of USB-A. One PCIe 4.0 x16 and x4 directly off of the CPU and one x4 off the chipset, all physical x16. You can even put in a Thunderbolt card.
Btw. be aware of the boards that have a two PCIe slots off the CPU. Some split them to x8/x8 when plugging cards in both. This can slow down your GPU by 5% to 10% !!! because now it only has an PCIe 4.0 x8 instead of x16.
Also, bios flashback is required by AMD to be on every board.
What MB, CPU, Graphics card would you recommend for a Pro Photographer with intentions of also doing some video? My software won't presently run -- it tells me I need some version of "Vulkan" -- which I do not have. Faster & better and also to run some of the new "AI" program parts. {I tend to keep my PC's for a looong time.}
msi tomahawk x670e ou msi x670e gaming wifi ??
Hey i'm building a pc with a ryzen 7600.
What B650M board do you recommend for futureproofing? (Planning to upgrade to a 8000X3D serries when they'll come out)
what is the audio like on the asus b650e-f? keep reading about 'audio codecs' being bad and its giving me mobo anxiety lol
What about lines to connect CPU with M2 SSD and GPU?. I think if you have one GPU and 2 SSD M2 only two of then can connect to CPU at the same time?. It is a bit confused for me. How can i check this?.
For my build I was planning to go for the b650 tomahawk but somebody recommended the x670 tomahawk and I was confused to why since it was more expensive . Yeah I might not need the x670 , even though I want to look into over clocking
Any alternative to Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WiFi? It uses Intel's Ethernet which is known to have connection drop issues.
Can you explain the fan header issue on the asus board? Im hearing it causes headaches with the daisy chains or something?
What do you think about The B650M DS3H with 7600X?. I'm really planning on that one, or the B650 Tomahawk instead but the MSi is way more expensive
Go with the Tomahawk. The DS3H boards have not impressed me over the years as far as features and components go
@@DannysTechChannel what about Gigabyte Gaming X AX ATX ?
Where is the Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX?
I'm currently running a 7900X set to 65W TDP on a MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk. It has a horrible, high-pitched, electrical whine / crackling noise coming from the CPU. I'm using a passive CPU cooler (no fans), No GPU (using onboard graphics), and all case fans at 0 RPM. So, it's not anything mechanical that is making the noise. Any suggestions as to which board or boards will have the least propensity to experience coil whine?
I don’t. I’ve had that problem with the MSI ACE board back in the day with intel but haven’t had that happen since. Never experienced that on any other motherboard.
i am looking to build a new PC, looking at AM5 with the 7800x3D setup. was wondering if i should wait till after CES 2024 and hope for further price reduction since the new proc are releasing
No. I’d build now. Prices are really good. Plus it’s Christmas time
Awesome video but on a side note, has anyone told you that you look like Mark Strong from Kingsman?
Of course! Thanks for noticing lol
Ok so I have an Xbox Series X and I'm looking to switch over to PC and also have my gaming at pretty much 4k 60fps and actually have an upgrade from the Xbox. I thi k I'm going with the Ryzen 7800X3D and want a good motherboard that's also a little future proof. Any ideas. The graphics card a saw that seems good is the Radeon RX 7900XTX which is a bit pricey but I don't want it to be out classed in a year or 2
You don’t need to go all out on the motherboard. A B650 board will do just fine. I usually look at the rear I/O like USB ports and Ethernet speeds to make sure it’s got everything I want. I also look at how many PWM fan headers it has. I like all my cable routing to be easy. So I’d say it really depends more on what case you choose than “future proofing”
Hi, Do you know is nividia 50 series will come with pci 5.0? Does it worth to spend now 100usd more for that pci 5.0?
I just decided to watch this review and please mind wrong statements like the one that "E"-variant chipsets are for overclocking @2:07. I know you have exposed all the features correctly, but this statement is misleading.
I didn’t say they are specifically for overclocking but the Extreme motherboards typically have better VRM AND MOSFETs which aids in better overclocking results. The non-E motherboards are the best option for most buyers.
can you suggest me some value for money motherboard for ryzen 7 7700x ! will going for the b650 mobos an ideal choice ! or I should go for x670 series ones ! I I'm in budget actually.
B650 is your best bet. Are you primarily gaming?
Which am5 white motherboard would you guys recommend?
Trying to figure that out myself. Been eyeing the MSI B650 Edge WiFi or the Asus ROG Strix B650-A Gaming.
@@DannysTechChannel I think the edge one it has the best features and quality.
I was leaning towards the same. I plan on doing an all white build using AM5 coming up soon
@DannysTechChannel I am in the process. Getting my 7900xtx Taichi White today!
Any ITX recommendation?
There’s only about 4 choices when it comes to B650 boards. I’d say go for the cheapest one cuz almost $300 for a motherboard is crazy when you could get AM4 and it would be great for gaming in 2023.
I just built a PC. (7800x3d + Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX wifi )
Stable and cool 😍
does it has any bios update issue?
?? thats confusing dude. the first recommended board is the asrock riptide. thats also available als b650e. in the end you talk about how great the asus board is. which is way more expensive than the b650e riptide.
What about mini itx boards for DDR5. First time builder here trying to wrap my head around all this stuff! 1440p and 4K setup is the way to go. Got a good deal on 7700x. By the time I gather all my parts though, people will already be moved on! Lol.
MSI x670 ACE Best for what you get, cost and relationship to being the most benefit to: 4090 and CPU 7800x3d CPU or similar
What do you guys think of the MSI MPG B650 Edge Wifi ?
So I'm not allowed to sell some or all of my current system to offset the cost of upgrafe?
I'm pretty sure AM4 parts are in high demand. AM5 will be around for a long time so the cost of platform upgrase should be spread out across several years.
Not everyone HAS a current system. Sure, sell your AM4 stuff to help with the purchase. These recommendations are for anyone looking to build.
I'm confused between Aorus B650m Elite and Aorus B650m Pro AX
My old pc retired and i was thinking going 7600x, now im having trouble with deciding which mobo i should go, stability and reliability is the most important factor for me. Would you have any opinions or suggestions for 200-230ish range?
Personally ive been looking at msi tomahawk, gigabyte aorus elite ax and gigabyte gaming x ax, well mainly the first two i think. Tomahawk would be the cheapest and aorus would be around 20-30 bucks higher.
I have the B650 tomahawk here in the studio and I LOVE it! Even used a 7800X3D on it
is the Corsair 32gb 6400, 32cl good for the B650E-F?
Hi Danny.
I am building a PC for heavy 24/7 rendering and was wondering what MOBO would be the best for those needs?
The CPU i got is 7950x
By the time PCie 5.0 GPUs, Drives hit the market, 6.0 will be released. Shame that PCie 5.0 products wasn't released with these high end over engineered boards.
I agree. It would have made sense to release 5.0 devices at the same time as AM5 and 13th gen intel stuff.
@@DannysTechChannel Building a limbo system right now. Probably done it to clear older Nvme PCie 3.0,4.0 old stock before the next gen ones hit the market.
Where is the Gigabyte B650M DS3H ?
What do you mean, where is it? I doesn’t make the cut
@@DannysTechChannel 😂 where is itttttt
Yeah, I don't think it's appropriate to say B stands for budget anymore when they have budget boards starting and going so high. And I thought Intel boards were getting too expensive haha
Just bought a gigabyte aorus b650M with a 7600x. Do I need to flash the BIOS before adding my CPU ? im so confuse !! Some people tell me to flash it (cause it wont work otherwise) and others tell me that it will be fine. Any advice ?
Pop it into the motherboard. It should work right out of the box. If it doesn’t, try your motherboards BIOS flashback function. It should have one.
what about going with the asrock b650e pg riptide which is currently $240? i currently have interest in this board.
Microcenter b650e-f with 7900x and 64gb ram for 549 usd. .❤❤❤...I am so lucky yo have micro center within 25 miles.
Tough choices.
Asus TUF x670e is the same price as the b650ef right now. Both are overpriced tbh. Gigabyte B650 Elite AX on the other hand is $100 cheaper.
My whole family is on AM4. I've got the following cpus 3900x, 3600, 5600x, and 5950x.
Nice! What a sweet setup
Depends what you want from it. The B450 motherboard won’t have PCI 4.0 capabilities. If you just want the increased CPU performance, you can simply update the BIOS and throw the 5700X into your B450 board
@Veezo Uptown I've got x470 for the 3900x, x570 for the 5950x, and the others are b550s. I wouldn't go out and buy a new mobo. If it's a good one like a b450 tomahawk I'd update the bios and install a 5800xt. Pcie4.0 isn't that big of a deal for me as most my drives are still 3.0. I think it all depends on budget though. My x470 mobo did have a 2700x and I sold it and upgraded to the 3900x that was in my x570. That way I could get the 5950x which I got a steal of a deal very early on after release
I think i dont want to over spend. Dont know if its necessary to get a am5 board if computer games haven't caught up to the technology. Am4 board with ryzen 5 or 7 is more than enough for games that have a proper graphics card. That would be the only part to upgrade in my opinion and the needs of a system.
Nice video, Which motherboard would be better for the ryzen 7950x? Rog strix B650E-F GAMING or Rog strix X670E-F GAMING?
They will both handle the 7950x fine. I’d save the money and get the B650 board
Where is Gigabyte aorus 650 elite ? is one the best, asus NOP, dont mention Temps problems.
I have the Asrock Riptide Wifi and haven't had any issues. I'm running a 7900xtx and 7800x3d so maybe I should have gone with a higher end board but eh it works.