Oh, A Civ 5 One Tile Cursed Start!

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  • @maxfactrr8949
    @maxfactrr8949 27 днів тому +1250

    Imagine sailing towards an island so small and insignificant it's barely worth traveling to, just to see the largest and greatest lighthouse in the known Universe shining into the heavens

    • @obviousbear1289
      @obviousbear1289 20 днів тому +93

      @@maxfactrr8949 also their city is so big that it covers the entire island by now. They crave coffee without ever having seen it, and don't know what construction or wheels are.

    • @aiodensghost8645
      @aiodensghost8645 19 днів тому +3

      Ah yes... its a wonder called The Tower of Bable.

    • @ДмитрийМаринин-ф3ь
      @ДмитрийМаринин-ф3ь 18 днів тому +12

      That's some warhammer 40k shit

    • @KarmaSangheili
      @KarmaSangheili 17 днів тому +6

      And we shall call it... Rapture.

    • @JoshuOfficial
      @JoshuOfficial 3 дні тому

      Bro made Numenor from Lord of the Rings

  • @TeddyElT
    @TeddyElT 27 днів тому +645

    Potato was so preoccupied With whether or not he could, He didn't stop to think If he should

    • @Sp4rt4nSl4ya
      @Sp4rt4nSl4ya 27 днів тому +17

      I'm glad he did, this is a fun challenge start

  • @ghjong001
    @ghjong001 27 днів тому +456

    Every time I see it, I have to stop to appreciate the art direction in Civ 5. The Art Deco inspired iconography and fonts are just perfection for a Civ game.

    • @josdelijster4505
      @josdelijster4505 27 днів тому +4

      Agreed🎉

    • @candycorn6268
      @candycorn6268 18 днів тому +37

      From art-style perspective, civ5 beats 6 at any time of the day

    • @Rynewulf
      @Rynewulf 17 днів тому +11

      Its such a shame that after initial release each expansion downplayed the art deco more and more.
      The new main menus were just ingame art backgrounds instead of art deco statues of things like Atlas holding up the world.
      And as much as the leader/civ music got better and better, the main themes got so much worse.
      It became a frankenstein renaissance art deco mess by the end, and not even in a cool intentional way either

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 17 днів тому +6

      Definitely the best art of any civ game

    • @feckusmaximus3234
      @feckusmaximus3234 16 днів тому +6

      @@RynewulfThe main themes got worse? Wdym? Maybe I’m biased because of nostalgia from listening to it for 9 years but BNW’s theme is beautiful imo.

  • @ZachariahWiedeman
    @ZachariahWiedeman 25 днів тому +147

    PotatoMcWhiskey: "I'm thinking about doing A. Here's why A is good. Here's another reason to do A. A would be good for this and for that. I'm definitely going to do A. Yeah, A is the play here. Actually, I'll just do B."

  • @OmikronTitan
    @OmikronTitan 27 днів тому +159

    5:30 How the heck do they even know what coffee is?! Did a can of Folgers wash up on shore?
    EDIT: 7:34 A storm must have blown some plants from just across the water and they were like.... We need this. Build a great lighthouse to find it!

    • @Cx10110100
      @Cx10110100 22 дні тому +3

      Birds.
      Ate plants and...deposited seed on the island?

    • @Indian0Lore
      @Indian0Lore 19 днів тому +2

      Ahh yes, bird poop coffee.

    • @Palitato
      @Palitato 10 днів тому

      You should look up the process to make chocolate from cocoa beans. Like... who figured that out? Who came up with that process?! It's so convoluted and utterly insane.

  • @C1azed
    @C1azed 27 днів тому +302

    I feel like this entire video was made solely for the Boat Mormonisum joke.
    And let me just say, WORTH IT

    • @beeinablanket
      @beeinablanket 27 днів тому +53

      Shameful that Potato turned his back on the one true faith, Denouncing Venice.

    • @LAZERAK47V2
      @LAZERAK47V2 27 днів тому +28

      But have you heard of Yoloism? We have Pagodas.

    • @StonerWaifu
      @StonerWaifu 26 днів тому +6

      Do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Savior... of Boats?

    • @matthewpopow6647
      @matthewpopow6647 25 днів тому +12

      @@beeinablanket i denounce Venice

    • @russellcostain1682
      @russellcostain1682 16 днів тому

      SOAK AND ROCK

  • @czeslav19
    @czeslav19 27 днів тому +245

    Coming from a Pole, Your pronounciation of Łódź is dead on. Congrats!

    • @purple_purpur7379
      @purple_purpur7379 27 днів тому +31

      well it was in the first half lol

    • @jdraymon
      @jdraymon 27 днів тому +19

      had a good effort on Wrocław as well - hampered by civ 5 not showing diacritics

    • @TheZakhai
      @TheZakhai 27 днів тому +18

      Turning from nearly spot on "Vrot-suave" on the beginning to literally "Rock-claw" in the middle of the video. Sadge

    • @Blackwing2345635
      @Blackwing2345635 27 днів тому +4

      Mean time Wroclaw - "Raw claw" xD
      I believe considering English phonetics it would be like Vrotz-wav, the first syllable is stressed

    • @NotAProducer888
      @NotAProducer888 26 днів тому +6

      ​@@TheZakhai I mean, some languages do pronounce it like that. I don't blame them. I am a Pole that lives in the Netherlands, and the Dutchies also say "Rock-claw". They're Germanics trying to pronounce a Slavic language, of course they will struggle. On the other hand, a lot of Poles are very lacking in their pronounciations of the Dutch language. Let's not even start on how we sound when we speak English.

  • @sheepwshotguns42
    @sheepwshotguns42 27 днів тому +134

    5:30
    how the heck do they even know what coffee is? it would be like me demanding unicorn meat!

    • @ethanfrench9111
      @ethanfrench9111 27 днів тому +14

      I've imagined it makes good surf and turf with some mermaid fillets. Throw in some frites on the side with an Immortal Peach sorbet for dessert and it's golden. Of course, I have yet to locate a Dragon for the starter soup but it's a work in progress.

    • @NotAProducer888
      @NotAProducer888 27 днів тому +4

      Travelling adventurers from unknown, far away civilizations would have swam over to the island and shown coffee to the inhabitants. That's how I pictured it lmao

    • @IrDaNoobKing
      @IrDaNoobKing 17 днів тому +1

      By that logic..because coffee did actually exist despite them not knowing about it…. Where the unicorns at?

    • @Pyxis10
      @Pyxis10 7 днів тому

      @@sheepwshotguns42 I demand Unicorn meat!

  • @BoliceOccifer
    @BoliceOccifer 27 днів тому +34

    When Civ 8 releases, you'll have to go back to playing Civ 4

    • @franciscloutier5387
      @franciscloutier5387 18 днів тому +1

      @@BoliceOccifer good luck getting it to run lol, I cannot for the life of me get civ4 to work on modern hardware (Civ3 runs perfectly fine tho)

  • @Laurathespookygal
    @Laurathespookygal 27 днів тому +23

    made me chuckle seeing the massive army amassing around Wroclaw yet potato not acknowledging it

    • @neilu7132
      @neilu7132 11 днів тому

      You mean, the city state troops ? actually a great buffer unless their ally declares war on you, then the city state will hammer you lol.

  • @Mathmachine
    @Mathmachine 27 днів тому +72

    Sometimes I think the games know when they're being played by a streamer and intentionally create these kind of starts.

  • @themerchant9711
    @themerchant9711 27 днів тому +22

    I appreciate the variety of buildings in civ 5, even if the fact that every city can build them makes it feel a bit repetitive. Might have been cool in civ 6 to have given districts building options that push you one say or another. Kind of like the museums

    • @Rynewulf
      @Rynewulf 17 днів тому +2

      Wizardry: Master of the Arcane did that a decade ago around Civ V's time, but unfortunately unlike today with Humankind and Old World gamers just werent interested in 4x civ style games outside official aaa 'sid meier' releases back then

  • @mikokos12
    @mikokos12 27 днів тому +18

    Love the civ 5 content Potato, keep the good stuff flowing!

  • @pacocheung1864
    @pacocheung1864 27 днів тому +43

    Next episode could be an hour of pure suffering and copium, or it could all end in 5 minutes

  • @dhk117rp
    @dhk117rp 27 днів тому +38

    Me when potato doesn't take 15% wonder production :/

    • @matthewloser7567
      @matthewloser7567 27 днів тому +10

      @@dhk117rp I thought that too, but unless he had at least 10 production, then he would be getting less than 1 additional production a turn. I'd need to check but I'm not sure whether that would even shave a turn off the timer.

    • @cmdrwilmot2696
      @cmdrwilmot2696 18 днів тому +2

      I think he should have built a worker boat right before he started pumping workers. Using it to make fishing boats would give him one extra food and production. The food would make it easier to put workers as unemployed for production, and adding even one production would be a 33% boost.

    • @superguy911
      @superguy911 6 днів тому

      @@cmdrwilmot2696 work boats don't exist in this mod, workers improve sea resourses

  • @iambicpentakill971
    @iambicpentakill971 27 днів тому +7

    I appreciate the city pronunciations. They might not be perfect, but they are a lot closer than most English speaking people would say

  • @TheCodaCrew
    @TheCodaCrew 25 днів тому +7

    Honestly, this is the god spot for if this was Civ 6 with the zombies turned on

  • @ethanfrench9111
    @ethanfrench9111 27 днів тому +9

    Yeah, I had something similar to that happen to me just yesterday except it was Shaka and not Polynesia and he spawned right next to me so I didn't even have time to build stuff like you did with the galleys and frigates. The harder difficulties of Civ 5 are basically "Hope I didn't spawn next to an aggressive early game Civ" which is arguably the same thing across most of the games but it goes hard in 4 & 5.

  • @MrAM-ny1nk
    @MrAM-ny1nk 27 днів тому +9

    I honestly thought this was one of those one tile challenge maps that every civ player was spamming out in civ 6 like four years ago. Good to see its an actual game!

  • @colonelgraff9198
    @colonelgraff9198 18 днів тому +4

    Bro gets the Saint Helena starting point

  • @fredblues7175
    @fredblues7175 27 днів тому +18

    I have a lot more hours in Civ5 than 6. The modded civs were amazing and diverse. 2 of my favorites were New Vegas Mr. House one city and Little House on the Prairie.

    • @realah3001
      @realah3001 27 днів тому

      The yuri civ was peak

  • @seansloan7015
    @seansloan7015 27 днів тому +10

    "Save 15% or more when you switch to Aristocracy." -Some sort of Lizard maybe

  • @evanknopp4441
    @evanknopp4441 21 день тому +2

    Having not finished this video, I tuned out when you started to lose, I started your rewind and had humongous dejavu, I'll watch the whole thing now ^.^

  • @KorutsiHiro
    @KorutsiHiro 27 днів тому +18

    The most cursed Spawn in civilization history.

  • @Makem12
    @Makem12 27 днів тому +11

    Potato, why didn't you spawn on a snow tile? You're making it too easy for yourself

  • @Jerrycourtney
    @Jerrycourtney 27 днів тому +5

    *_Maybe the real Polish One-Tile Island is the friends we made along the way._* -Sacagawea

  • @lesnicus
    @lesnicus 27 днів тому +24

    mate, your prenounciation is spot on. well done!
    edit: spoke to early I guess...

    • @lesnicus
      @lesnicus 27 днів тому +3

      polish is confusing but we have only one K :) rest was spot on

    • @Blackwing2345635
      @Blackwing2345635 27 днів тому

      @@lesnicus pretty much one letter - one sound mostly, but also W = V confuses people sometimes.

    • @lesnicus
      @lesnicus 27 днів тому

      @@Blackwing2345635 Yeah, Potato got it right though. I like to describe it as Ł=W and W=V and we have no V

  • @rhystaylor851
    @rhystaylor851 27 днів тому +4

    RIP the hundreds (if not thousands) of gold that was lost because Potato refused to build harbours. Also Boat Mormanism pog

  • @josdelijster4505
    @josdelijster4505 27 днів тому +2

    I loved civ 5 with all addons it was great.. never thought i would love ut more than 4 next war.. but i did.. and this is a fun vid on what was possible with it

  • @ladsvideos
    @ladsvideos 21 день тому +2

    Back to watching Potatoes videos because
    1) They're great
    and
    2) Civ 5 refuses to launch on my PC 😢

  • @archranger80753
    @archranger80753 22 дні тому +2

    glad to see people are still playing civ 5, great vid!

  • @dlearn863
    @dlearn863 26 днів тому +1

    Haven't discovered horses yet. The enemy is entering the era with spies. Imagine that in FFA.

  • @MrElectronicfallout
    @MrElectronicfallout 22 дні тому

    that crabs joke got me pretty hard, thank you for that

  • @CainXVII
    @CainXVII 23 дні тому +3

    Apparently the Swedish king is supposed to be Gustav II Adolf. But he looks more like Erik XIV. Doesn't matter, they both fought Poland :)

  • @SergeySklonin
    @SergeySklonin 27 днів тому +1

    You can use "Fog-busting" with civilian units to see barbs in the fog of war. In essence, you hold right-click with a worker/settler and scroll all over the map. If the circle is red, there's a barb. Doesn't work for Terra Incognita though, fog of war only.

  • @Silentpoppy
    @Silentpoppy 25 днів тому +1

    I like to think this city has a absolutely insanely deep mine underneath it, like if you fall into it you will die from screaming before you hit the ground levels of deep.

  • @dontnormally
    @dontnormally 27 днів тому

    it's awesome that you went ahead and rolled with the cursed start - makes for a really interesting game!

  • @farenellvideos
    @farenellvideos 25 днів тому

    The epdisodes where you struggle are the most entertaining. But super interesting at the same time.

  • @CDL_Gaming
    @CDL_Gaming 25 днів тому +1

    NGL, watching this at 6 AM having been up all night and it took me restarting the video 3 times to realize why Civ 6 looked so strange... it's not Civ 6. lol. I'm going to bed, now.

  • @juniusluriuscatalus6606
    @juniusluriuscatalus6606 20 днів тому

    Potato: "Sorry not sure how to pronounce this."
    Half of Poles: Shaking heads in disbelief.
    Second half: "No one knows."

  • @kortzite5204
    @kortzite5204 26 днів тому

    Potato is an absolute demon for calling it "Vrotswav" 50% of the time and "Rawww claww" the other 50%

  • @kaan-kaant
    @kaan-kaant 25 днів тому +1

    I never moved on to civ 6, but civ 5 wasn't quite enough either. Highly recommend the civ 5 vox populi community mod is so good despite some problems with running it.
    Would make a great video watching someone have a go at VP for the first time around tbh.

  • @jessefoutz597
    @jessefoutz597 25 днів тому

    I like that you pronounce Lodz as "woodge," like it's supposed to be.

  • @Sp4rt4nSl4ya
    @Sp4rt4nSl4ya 27 днів тому

    Such a cool start! Glad you decided to roll with it and make a video on this.

  • @emilydioptase
    @emilydioptase 18 днів тому

    In one tile civilization, nobody jumps for the tile improvements.

  • @mikemcgillivry506
    @mikemcgillivry506 27 днів тому +3

    got to give you crazy props for trying to pull that start out from oblivion. Didnt think it was even possible at first

  • @superguy911
    @superguy911 27 днів тому +2

    when your land is incredibly shit, there's actually a strong case for liberty. what use would growing the capital even be when all you have is 2 food tiles. Could have invested those cargo ship in exponentially better cities

  • @ClnlBogey
    @ClnlBogey 25 днів тому +1

    Ah yes the Halloween video. Scary shit, no joke.

  • @diakoneiross
    @diakoneiross 27 днів тому +1

    Pronunciation of Łódź is amazing, Wrocław is basically vrotsuav, we don't do weird stuff with c. C is always ts. ;)

    • @Laura-eq6uv
      @Laura-eq6uv 13 днів тому

      Unless it a part of "ch". Or "cz". Digraphs my beloved :3

  • @SergeySklonin
    @SergeySklonin 27 днів тому

    Also, try rushing for workshops ASAP, before or right after libraries - this might help vs. deity. Loving your videos :)

  • @JesseAnderson
    @JesseAnderson 21 день тому +2

    You'd think after 100 hours, I would've at least tried to improve a water tile with a worker. I've been using workboats exclusively this entire time

    • @garethleahy412
      @garethleahy412 19 днів тому +3

      He's playing with LEKMOD which removes workboats and gives their job to workers. It's a major overhaul of vanilla civ 5.

    • @st.videoss
      @st.videoss 17 днів тому

      @@JesseAnderson It isn't a real thing, potato is playing with several mods that you and I both are very unfamiliar with

  • @DerZocker2000000
    @DerZocker2000000 26 днів тому +1

    11:42 potato discovers what renting property is like

  • @nickojustin
    @nickojustin 23 дні тому

    I had a similar start once. It was big enough for three cities and when I wanted to settle more, I couldn't due to ocean surrounding me.

  • @Tsumii610
    @Tsumii610 20 днів тому

    "The Polish One Tile Island" sounds like something i read on urban dictionary

  • @wolfsruhm
    @wolfsruhm 27 днів тому

    one thing i have to say: during your settler production in your cap, you could have just put your ppl back onto food, because, iirc, in Civ 5 half your food production is used into producing settler, with the counter to that that you will not get growth, though it might be change in the mods you were running

  • @kylarking
    @kylarking 23 дні тому

    Always love some fresh Civ challenge content!

  • @princeinferno426
    @princeinferno426 26 днів тому

    Polish person here, you pronounce Wroclaw pretty well. In Polish the ł in Wrocław makes the same sound as w does in water. The rest of the pronunciation is correct.

  • @JamesWilliams-1901
    @JamesWilliams-1901 27 днів тому +2

    Instead of squeaking out 1 GPT with open borders, you can ask for it when mutually trading accept embassy (just saves you making an extra trade)

  • @SkeIIum
    @SkeIIum 27 днів тому +1

    Oh hey, finally forced to go tradition. Lets go!

  • @BucknerSJ
    @BucknerSJ 16 днів тому

    10:50 New Patreon tier unlocked: Potato's home address

  • @TheSuperappelflap
    @TheSuperappelflap 20 днів тому

    A lighthouse...and a library...built right by the seashore...seems weirdly familiar.

  • @Pengi-kun
    @Pengi-kun 15 годин тому

    Watching this made me realize I have no idea how to play Civ despite playing all of them since Civ 3.

  • @2centschange
    @2centschange 22 дні тому

    10:55 Potato basically explaining how social media works.

  • @xanukraine
    @xanukraine 27 днів тому

    You actually pronouncing Łódź correctly!
    Mindblown,jpg

  • @Metallex
    @Metallex 13 днів тому

    The world enters the Medieval period in 920BC. Potato invents the wheel in 260AD.

  • @paulenus2098
    @paulenus2098 27 днів тому

    Wow ...Notre Dame built on turn 66.....AI is on another level this game :)

  • @VGM00021
    @VGM00021 27 днів тому

    We're spending most our lives on an Easter Island Paradise.
    - The early game.

  • @too_s0ber910
    @too_s0ber910 27 днів тому

    I wold have laughed so hard if the great lighthouse got ninja'd out from under you with 1 turn left.

  • @polinco737
    @polinco737 7 днів тому

    Discovers the wheel in 260 AD?? This civilization can't possibly fail!

  • @danielr3587
    @danielr3587 27 днів тому +9

    You should have settled on gold. Better city, and you would have been happy.

  • @PainFireFist
    @PainFireFist 27 днів тому +1

    Gold for crabs is such a legit trade 🤣

  • @esinohio
    @esinohio 20 днів тому

    I can't wait to see @PotatoMcWhiskey demolish Civ VII diety mode when it comes out or whatever the hardest mode will be!

  • @KarltheBarl
    @KarltheBarl 26 днів тому

    lol you had the same idea of playing 5 to refresh your memory for 7 civ 5 is so much fun I forgot how good it is

  • @kiraalira
    @kiraalira 17 днів тому

    Łódź perfectly fits your start since it means "boat" in polish

  • @WilliamTehConqueror
    @WilliamTehConqueror 26 днів тому

    Man, i must have got knocked back 10 years with the boat mormon religion name

  • @KargoolElvalie
    @KargoolElvalie 27 днів тому

    Your proununciation of Nicosia made me cry.

  • @iqh2
    @iqh2 27 днів тому

    wow, you're saying the polish names in the (mostly) correct way😮

  • @Formal-DeHyde
    @Formal-DeHyde 27 днів тому

    Me: rolls 1 tile island, eyeroll and reroll.
    Also me: sees Potato rolled 1 tile island, grabs popcorn

  • @Draugtaur
    @Draugtaur 17 днів тому

    Your pronounciation of Łódź was so good I thought maybe you know some Polish, but then I heard "Wrokław"

  • @ahmadashraf9448
    @ahmadashraf9448 19 днів тому

    Hmm.. I definitely like workers in Civ5 more than 6, in the fact that they don't die from usage.
    But the slow build is definitely a drawback, but the instabuild civ 6 is also absurd.
    I think worker should be like civ5, but much more powerful, and they cost 1 citizen. Maybe they can also stack up to 3 to work on a single tile.

  • @MichalKaczorowski
    @MichalKaczorowski 13 днів тому +1

    Great pronunciation of "Łódź" ;)

  • @rratactual
    @rratactual 27 днів тому

    This is such a Poland start I swear
    "hmmm yes wow I cannot wait to play one of the most powerful civs in the game, hopefully my start has at least some pastures"
    The start:

  • @pascallaforge375
    @pascallaforge375 27 днів тому

    What a cliffhanger, hopefully you make it out of that war

  • @andrewwahba5006
    @andrewwahba5006 27 днів тому

    Cursed start. Can't believe you're making it work

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins 27 днів тому

    Venice: This is gonna be the most Equitable Society ever!

  • @Milone335
    @Milone335 27 днів тому +1

    Hi potato, I wanted to ask if you could play Hungary in Civ 6. Because I think it is possible to win a domination victory in under 100 turns on a tiny terra map

  • @NineEyeRon
    @NineEyeRon 27 днів тому

    I’m falling asleep to this tonight!

  • @robertmarshall2502
    @robertmarshall2502 27 днів тому +2

    "I'll wait two turns to grow and then I'll pull two workers off"
    Hey, however you find best motivates them is OK.

  • @maxd4826
    @maxd4826 26 днів тому

    Respect for pronouncing “Łódź” correctly

  • @thecooletompie
    @thecooletompie 27 днів тому

    Rough start, interesting game. In un modded civ 5 pledging to protect a city state will make you lose influence at a slower rate and doesn't decline to 0 but a little more. Like always not sure about lekmod maybe they changed this mechanic.

  • @andrewcollins2060
    @andrewcollins2060 18 днів тому

    4:53 bro is basically making O'Hara from one piece.

  • @hatchhermit77
    @hatchhermit77 26 днів тому

    Wow, that cliffhanger, tho.

  • @ogcipher4967
    @ogcipher4967 17 днів тому

    I was like "wait why does the game look so weird but so familiar in the same time" and boom it's good ol' Civ V not VI

  • @Nokturnal89
    @Nokturnal89 27 днів тому +2

    Keep the civ5 content coming! Civ5 is the superior civ game!

  • @Elias.Barney
    @Elias.Barney 20 днів тому

    as a saint the boat mormons make me happy lol 😂

  • @xleigaj
    @xleigaj 21 день тому

    You've prononce Wrocław and Łódź perfectly onthe beginning, and later it goes strangely wrong ;)
    But good play :)

  • @keeperofthefate
    @keeperofthefate 18 днів тому

    Finally! Warsaw that actually have a "shore". Now "Warsaw Shore" won't be massive jo... scratch that.
    NAVAL POLSKA STRONK!

  • @dbpeel
    @dbpeel 25 днів тому

    surprised you didnt go exploration for the extra production on cities settled on the coast. (unless lek mod removes that part, I dont play with it so Idk if it does)

  • @wilhelmfruchte7245
    @wilhelmfruchte7245 27 днів тому

    Nice game, I would restart that :-)
    Tell me please what mods u used?
    TY and continue such videos pls!

  • @KFP_Prophet
    @KFP_Prophet 27 днів тому +6

    Piety would actually be a better option here. Apo ideally. Tradition is best for exploiting strong starts, rather than tall-by-necessity starts.
    I actually got a start like this, minus the fish, in a game with one of my friends, and in retrospect I'm so sad I told him and restarted, would've been hillarious to play it.

    • @KFP_Prophet
      @KFP_Prophet 27 днів тому +7

      Also 100% Explo on this start. It's already great on coast, but here, you need that +3 production in the cap, better settles for catch up, and all but one of your capital's tiles will be getting +1 food, production and gold from Treasure Fleets.

    • @superguy911
      @superguy911 27 днів тому +1

      He's very hung up on using vanilla strategies on the entirely revamped, much more balanced lekmod.
      But even on native you shouldn't go tradition here, the tradition bonuses to the capital is trying to polish a turd.

    • @KFP_Prophet
      @KFP_Prophet 27 днів тому +2

      @@superguy911 yeah, trad gives you practically nothing here except 2 food, a turn off great lighthouse and a free amphitheatre. The food % is tiny, the hammer % is tiny and used very little, the per pop stuff is pointless with a low pop.
      It's been a while since I played vanilla BNW, but in terms of LEK on that start you need to be rushing religion. Salat, Haiji or Jizya alone is more valuable than all of Trad on that start, let alone 2 of those, devout, feed and APO.