Busting Genesis Apologetics | Dinosaurs in the Bible
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2021
- Finishing the absolute abomination that is the Genesis Apologetics "7 Myths" series.
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“Evolution is just a theory! No one’s ever observed evolution!”
Well, atomic theory is just a theory and no one’s ever observed an atom, so I guess nuclear weapons don’t exist by that reasoning.
Good to know!
And it’s good to remember evolution has been observed, both on the micro scale and speciation
Germ theory of disease is a theory yet we’ve seen germs. Young earth creationists and many anti-science christians don’t understand the term “theory”
Since friction is a theory I suppose that friction doesn't work.
I spent my 40 year career working for an electric utility company operating a nuclear power plant. This company spent billions of dollars on a "theory". Reactor theory. I even had a discussion with a coworker who described evolution as just a theory. I reminded him that his employer has invested heavily in a theory.
actually, atoms have been observed, and our technology for doing so is so advanced that one science team made a little stop motion animation by moving around individual atoms. you can find it on youtube called "The worlds smallest movie, a boy and his atom"
As someone who’s high school science curriculum consisted of young-earth creationism and “evidence” that “disproved” evolution and other theories that require billions of years, I really appreciate your videos. I enjoy learning things I didn’t have the opportunity to learn about back then.
Wow that's unfortunate, I hope it wasn't public school
@@carlwheezer1030 it wasn’t. It was homeschool/ Christian private school
Oh my. I didnt know schools even taught that. Young earth creationists arguments fall apart under their own weight. Glad youre figuring it out for yourself.
As a fervent supporter if the separation of church and state, I have to say here that it should be noted that the fundamentalist evangelicals that are following their stated agenda to take control of the law, etc. have declared that when they take power, evolution will no longer be taught in public school and creationism will be the only science they teach.
This is not a conspiracy theory. They quite willingly and publicly say this is their intent.
Please help save us from them by supporting church/state separation!
@@I_am_Irisarc Please do not worry. You have more rational people on your side than you can imagine. I know. I am one of them.
As someone raising children in the Bible Belt I need all the ammo I can get to protect them from irrationality and prejudice.
Best of luck
@mattn561 - My mother made sure that I knew all about evolution (and other science and history topics) by reading to me from the adult science books she read. It protected me when her friend talked her into becoming a Mormon and she had to scramble to reconcile what she knew to be the truth with their non-science beliefs. But I was shielded by then. Thanks, Mama!
So - keep up your teachings and instead of little kid books, introduce some books on science topics. My mother also made little sketches of what she was reading to me as we went along. They weren't fancy drawings. Your children will remember all this. All the very best!
"Lo he was the absolutest unit."
I really want a Gutsick Gibbon Bible translation
It never said est!
Considering how many civilizations had invented writing by then you would think there'd be thousands of independent corroborating accounts of dinosaurs.
The commie leftist secular deep state got to them first in order to turn America into a socialist atate
Ever wondered why the jesus character has no writings, ll do. One brilliant answer l got was he was too busy doing miracles...
@@krisbest6405 Jesus did have writings.
@@lightknight876 what?
@@jesusismysavior4985 - Who in the world is hiding away the books and letters that Yeshu' wrote from the rest of us? That is a far-fetched claim, JIMS - and it requires very concrete proof. I doubt that you have any proof because Yeshu' was like nearly every other person in that area - illiterate.
I remember thinking my grandmother lived with dinosaurs,
Time is a malleable thing when 10 years is more than you've ever experienced and you're just starting math
When you are in hell, god will send a huge asteriod to destroy that place. Heathens will be extinct.
@DrMustacho - "Gotta go slop the dinos!"
Technically speaking that's true
Birds are dinosaurs after all, I may not know your grandmother but I'll bet that she has probably seen a bird at some point in her life
These videos feel like I'm hanging out with my brilliant younger sister, sipping coffee and listening to her speaking accessibly about advanced biology/paleontology issues.
Thanks for this, Lindsey. Your work is making a real difference.
Did you fall for that kool-aid?
You mean the Bible? No we didn't.
The "living trilobite" thing.. I think I know what is happening there. There's a type of isopod usually called "trilobite isopod" due to its external form resembling that of a trilobite, HOWEVER, that doesn't mean the isopod is a trilobite; there's a beetle called "trilobite beetle" and I don't think you could say those are trilobites too. Damn, there are also armadillo lizatds, those aren't armadillos either, common names don't mean anything in taxonomy.
Guinea pig!
Oink oink.
@@Crackpot_Astronaut That one is wrong in both words ;)
@triccele ----
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Rhinoceros Beetle
Elephant Shrew
Bee Hummingbird
Mole Cricket
Mole Rat
Dogfish
Seahorse
Sea Lion
Leopard Frog
Dragon Fly
Damsel Fly
Bear Dog
Water Bear (Another term for the Tardigrade.)
Whale Shark
Fairy Shrimp
Rock Hound
(Going too far?)
Gotta keep dunking on these fools. It's so sneaky the way they feed you legitimate science (eg> pneumatized bones in sauropods) and then run with that stolen legitimacy to get the unprepared viewer to swallow whatever unsubstantiated assertion they're making.
I hereby make this tribute to the UA-cam algorithm. May its heartless devices and unholy machinations be appeased.
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@@whatabouttheearth Oh I've been subscribed for a long time now. I just had nothing helpful to add.
@@zacbranagan8939 I generally say something along the same lines, like "here's a comment for the ever-hungry Almighty Algorithm," myself, so I get it! 😉 😄
Might be the coolest algorithm tribute I’ve seen.
You forgot the "radiometric dating is fake" "dendrochronology is fake" "geology is fake"......
"...millions of dead things laid down by water all over the earth..." This line of Ken Ham' seems to continuously find itself insrted painfully into countless creationist videos. However we should note that ne of the most famous fossil(s) ever discovered was definitely NOT laid down by water. The fighting dinosaurs fossil was caused by a collapsing sand dune, which covered and killed a velociraptor that was locked in mortal combat with a protoceratops.
ofcourse you were there right? saw it happen.
@@nicky158 of course being there is the only way people can know things. That's why forensic science doesn't exist and the only way to solve crimes is eyewitness testimony.
@@nicky158 my evangelical school trait is to reply to that with, "no, but I know someone who was!"
Checkmate
Ha ha ha
@@nicky158 We haven't seen atoms, yet produce nuclear power. Science works in falsifiable ways. Pretending that we have to "see" things to know them to be true is ridiculous. We don't see the wind either, but can objectively demonstrate its effects.
@Lord Methane Not uniformly, no.
"dinosaurs died mummified with food in their stomachs! isn't a flood the best explanation?" I would love to see them try to connect those dots.
Mary Schweitzer understands that evolution is real but she IS a Christian. USED to be a YEC. She gave up on that nonsense when she began studying paleontology with Jack. I have a lot of notes on her because the YEC nonsense.
@58:00 I'm especially annoyed at the stealth parasitism of the creationists talking all that dino design when NONE of the work was done by creationists, but by standard evolutionary paleontologists.
18:53
Those dinosaurs were on land on the west side of North American Craton between the Absaroka and Zuni sea rise levels of the Sloss Sequences.
So according to 'The Principle of Faunal Succession' and 'Sloss sequences' it would of been:
Absaroka rise,
marine fossils,
dino fossils,
Zuni rise,
marine fossils,
KT Line (Iridium)
....so I bet the dinosaurs they are talking about are a certain portion of the Jurassic period specifically.
😄 but theyre are going to say that the original thing that killed the dinos was Noahs flood (which only lasted a little bit) and then there was scavenging. You cant win with people who are playing a game of make beleive
....it wouldn't make sense that the entire planet was that broiling after the KT extinction if the ancestors of extant species survived
Yeah, not to mention that we have history of Chinese dynasties for over 5,000 years. The "global flood" didn't include China.
"after explaining that he's the master designer-"
now my brain is just imagining this as a weirder version of the lego movie where Job strives to also become a Master Designer but all he can think of is a triple decker cat and all the other aspiring Master Designers make fun of him
I guess this is some sort of alternate history exploring which fantasy creatures do and don't get to exist when god gives the keys to a bunch of other people.
ua-cam.com/video/6SHQoFgZYYI/v-deo.html
"Master designer"
Meanwhile actual doctor: Human body is stupidly built
Lol, Erika. The way you so casually yet affirmatively said "I like hippos. I think God would also like hippos" was adorable. That aside, this was another phenomenal presentation. Watching you obliterate Genesis Apologetics never gets old. Thank you for sharing this with us. Keep up the amazing work, dear!
I love how they switch their agenda in the blink of an eye ... "perfect creation with those air pockes in the bone" .... "had a hard time breathing" ... eh, what is it now? Perfect design or a botched up job? Like that molten core planet I still wish to see the manager about since the last earthquake and the damage it did to my house.
Loving the "Are you single and christian" ad at the top right of your screen.
Less an example of 'targeted advertising', than an example of an 'unguided missile'. 😀
I've heard hypotheses that the myths of the Greek Cyclops may have been created when ancient peoples found elephant or mammoth skulls. Do you think it's possible that ancient peoples could hsve also found dinosaur fossils and added them to their mythos in much the same way?
It's rare but we find fossils uncovered by erosion. Its reasonable to assume that it's happened a number of times throughout human history. They likely didn't even have to dig to find some.
There is a theory that gryffins were inspired by protoceratops.
There's also a giant salamander fossil that was assumed to be a human victim of Noah's flood. *Andrias scheuchzeri* if you're interesed
I believe PBS eons just released a video about this.
I think it's basically guaranteed
Myths usually do have a foundation on something factual. Then elaborated on as they are recounted orally over the ages.
That's honestly where I think we get dragons. Dinosaur bones would have been found all over the world, anyone lucky enough to have been digging could have come across them and their bones look like these giant lizard-like monsters. Different dinosaur bones around the world could have led to different cultural interpretations of dragons and serpents. It just makes sense.
Absolutely love your videos. I find a lot of science topics difficult to understand, but you make everything you talk about easy to comprehend. You're intelligent, articulate, funny, and extremely thorough, and I can't thank you enough for taking complicated topics and breaking them down in an entertaining way. Keep up the great work!
"Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water all over the Earth" DING DING DING! WE HAVE HOVIND, PEOPLE!
I'm curious if YEC has enough time to HAVE billions of things to die in the flood. What was it? 2000y after Creation?
@@Kayback Yes population curves show young earth not evolution. The human population as well.
@@MichaelAChristian1the human population would have an absolutely massive bottle neck to the point that we would not be here if the flood happened.
@@midnightsan9917You are from a single couple. That's admitted. You believe you are related to a stone and an orange.
@@MichaelAChristian1 an orange yes a stone maybe. It depends on whether or not you consider the basic building blocks of life found on asteroids to be a familiar connection.
Btw we've found nucleotides on asteroids currently.
You think your related to a dirt dude and his rib.
Also I'll remind you that you started from a single cell too. Its called an egg. Unless of course you were spawned in by god fully formed
Edit -
Also genetically the human population can only be down to 100 people to propigate properly. Otherwise genetic diversity gets so low that birth defects start killing children at a higher rate then they are produced leading to extinction. Its even possible to see a genetic bottle neck of 1000 in a genome. For example Cheetahs are so inbred that every single cheetah in existence right now is at most third cousins. They have high birth defect rates and poor semen quality. All things humans don't have which is weird if your book is true because their were only max three breeding pairs.
So glad I found your channel, I'm 63 and never took biology in school. I love learning thank you so very much.
Check out some of Aron Ra's content it is quite educational as well....
@@blackice9088 Been following him or quite a time now
I love this video so very much. You pause their video, call them on their bullshit and then actually dig into it. Fantastic.
@Lord Methane That's a very absolute assertion. I'd love to see you back it up with something.
Not even Ken Ham himself is wrong on *all* counts.
@Lord Methane Are you saying there is a massive conspiracy to make up decades and decades of research just to ... I don't know, get fake research grants, or something?
@Lord Methane How are all claims in biology based on The Big Bang? I don't follow. You'll have to cite me a paper or something, so I can read up on it, otherwise it's just an assertion on your part.
@Lord Methane Ah, okay, it is quite clear to me that you don't have even the most rudimentary grasp of the material then, and I can safely disregard you. Good to know.
Feel free to correct me, of course, but do so with citations. UA-cam comments are not a good source of information on their own, and you're not going to overturn all of established biology here.
@Lord Methane You can prove these things? Sounds great, go right ahead. I'm not dismissing anything, because you have not presented anything.
"Plate tectonics?"
I love how a clade that completely dominated most large-bodied niches for 145 million years, and was present for 40 million years before that is just rendered unable to do anything because of centimeters per year movement of continents.
How very interesting that the guy claiming to have extracted dinosaur DNA just happened to do it a year after Jurassic Park came out.
in some translations the sinue of his loins is translated as the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
the description of behemoth is pretty close to an elephant(nose bit) and leviathan is arguably a nile crocodile(with a couple embellishments) who can grow up to 20 feet and weigh almost a us ton
also ceder was also a term for a switch of cedar for keep flies off of themselves and camels/ox/ect
Late, but an elephants tail does actually resemble a cedar, a Lebanese cedar
Edit: and croc/gator bellows kinda look like boiling water, so maybe that takes some account
@@monstrdog7031 i would say more like a branch(of the cedar) with some of the leaf sprouts removed
wtf is wrong here!?!? Your channel should have at least ten times the subscribers. This world doesnt make sense sometimes.
...but sauropods were taller than lotus trees, so how were they in the shade of lotus trees?
If we're using these verses as a literal description of behemoth, then it's hard to imagine a lotus tree (Ziziphus lotus) at 2-5 meters height at best, "covering [the sauropod] with their shade."
In addition, a sauropod would have to deliberately hold its head near ground level to be potentially threatened by a river "gushing into his mouth." As their awkward CGI showed, sauropods would normally just wade through that without issue.
- a *former* YEC who used to find this 'biblical dinosaur' at least somewhat convincing
As for "having to see things through the eyes of the people back then": "God parted the waters" in Genesis makes no sense unless seen through the eyes of the people of that time who believed there was was no vacuum but water all around. And God made a pocket in that water, put the earth in and set up the firmament to protect earth from these waters. The water, it seems, must have dried up by now ...
So much evidence against a young earth, yet they seem to speak so confidently about how "the evolutionists have it wrong. I have yet to hear any YEC give any good argument, or pose any good evidence, as to why that is.
It took me two sittings to finish this video, but like all of your other work, it was well worth the time.
Thank you!
Oh yea, Zit happens!
"Evolutionist" is a term made up by Creationists, as was (not really)Intelligent Design...
The confidence obviously doesn't arise from good arguments.
But I don't believe any of these creationists truly care to use, or listen to logic in regards to believing the claims of their religion.
1. THe "oort cloud" is imaginary and does not exist. It has no scientific evidence or observation. Comets disprove millions of years. Evolutionists are forced to believe in things WITHOUT evidence a total blind faith.
2. The mythical RNA creature that does not exist. Dna is so impossible for evolutionist they made up mythical rna creature that does not exist and never observed. Evolution is a blind faith.
3. Interbedded layers at grand canyon show not "millions of years" apart. Meaning evolution is dead again.
4. Whales on top of mountain. Meaning you have to believe the layers formed rapidly meaning no "geologic column".
And so on forever.
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@@MichaelAChristian1 Um, thanks for making the example proving the point of the OP I guess.
Are any of the points you made claims that you understand at all well? If so I'd be happy to point out where they fail.
I'm hoping that you are repeating material though, because those arguments are embarrassing.
I'm not interested in picking on you personally. But the arguments you presented do not make you look good.
@@stevewebber707 So do you admit the "oort cloud" is IMAGINARY? Do you admit no scientific observation at ALL for it? That they believe it DESPITE the observations? Can you be honest with yourself?
And you believe that there can be a rna only creature? Do you have any EXAMPLES of such a life-form? Or do you admit it is IMAGINATION?
Do you admit that interbedded layers exist in grand canyon? Do you understand that the layers formed contemporaneously then? Are you able to admit to yourself honestly?
I'm Gibbon ready for this one.
53:00 oh wow, it turns out the group of animals that evolutionists say birds evolved from had hollow bones. Who'd have think it... Next we'll find out they were warm blooded, had feathers, and laid shelled eggs in nests 🤨
I think this may be the first reference I've seen to leviathan and behemoth likely being chaos monsters, rather than as elephants or hippos. Well done.
Actually I agree with Aron Ra, the behemoth describing an elephant, the leviathan being a nile crocodile and the unicorn being a one-horned rhinocerous...
@@blackice9088 Aron's specialty is evolutionary science, including paleontology and related fields such as geology. Further, I don't believe he was ever a Christian in the usual sense, having been raised in a Mormon home. As such I don't consider him to be the most reliable source for Biblical interpretation.
Having said that, I have to agree regarding the unicorn. That was simply a bad translation of a term that could have been translated rhino or aurochs, However, both Biblically and historically in the context of other Middle Eastern etiological creation myths, I think it's far more likely that when El (or Yahweh) brought order out of chaos by dividing the land from the waters, he had to contend with the ubiquitous chaos monsters of those ancient myths.
Of course, as with any of a number of mythological chimeric beasts, the people of the time would have used known animals to create the unknown. So sure, the elephant and the Nile crocodile could have been used as the basis for the chaos monsters. But in Ps. 74:14 Leviathan has multiple heads, and even the word is related to the earlier Ugaritic Lotan, a serpent that was the servant of the sea god Yam.
The picture regarding Behemoth is less clear, but the pairing with Leviathan in Job 40-41 indicates that it would likewise have been a chaos monster.
So for now, at least, I think I'll stick with Leviathan and Behemoth being chaos monsters.
Aren't "non-specific chaos monsters" basically what dragons were in the ancient world west of China?
I think these Young-Earth-Creationists are challenging you in order to get you to read Bible verses. They believe in magic and they think that if you read enough of their magic book you will become one of them....
And many an Atheist will tell them to read Bible verses in the hopes that if they read enough of their magic book, it will make them Atheist, too.
last year i took an earth history course and i'm really glad my professor took the time to thoroughly explain why young earth "theories" are complete bogus. i didn't need any convincing but it is incredibly useful to have a foundation of knowledge to really know *why* YECs are so incredibly wrong about so much.
one of the topics he covered was whether or not a global flood could account for the geologic time scale we see, and obviously no it doesn't, and it just completely boggles my mind how people think that's a reasonable conclusion to draw from the (somewhat) neatly ordered layers of geologic time that we have. how could a chaotic mess like that result in a progression from less to more complex body mechanics??
The flood is such low hanging fruit that it boggles my mind how anyone over the age of 9 could believe it. It flies in the face of virtually every field of life or earth science, as well as physics.
In certain states, debunking YEC tales (they don't qualify as theories, or even hypotheses) would land a teacher or professor in very hot water. I'm assuming your school is not in Texas, Florida, GA or any other bible belt state.
Debunking creationism and "Intelligent Design " should be part of every science curriculum, beginning in high school.
@@petem.3719 actually, this was a college in mississippi! i've lived in MS my whole life (and therefore i'm used to science and prehistory being taught with the caveat of religion) so when this professor first brought up religion and creationism i thought i was going to be in for a semester of catering to YECs. he was religious, but clearly wasnt a believer in literal 6-day creationism, and any time he brought up YEC ideas it was to debunk them. i think he carefully tiptoed around outright saying "young earth isn't legitimate" to appease any believers in the class, but was basically aiming to show the proofs for why it's not.
while i would prefer to keep scientific discussion separate from religion in a science class, i think it was a pretty important aspect of that class considering how many people around here DO believe in YEC. and it was leagues better than how my middle & high school teachers would say "this is the scientific theory... but its only a theory and you don't have to believe it if you dont want to, please dont tell your parents i was teaching you evolution or that god isnt real!"
@@qqweebird "this is the scientific theory... but its only a theory and you don't have to believe it if you dont want to,"
UGGGGHHH!!!.... This is gravitational/germ/atomic/magnetic theory, but It's only a theory and you don't have to believe it if you don't want to. Any time I hear those three words, "only a theory", I instantly dismiss the person as a hopeless science illiterate.
I went to school in Florida. But that was long before the rightwing religious nuts took over this state and, even in the Catholic school I went to, I had never heard of such nonsense as a young earth or a literal Noachian flood. Creationism was for religion class and, even there, nobody ever taught us the earth was literally 6K years old. I don't think even the nuns took seriously a global flood. Evolution was taught in science class and, somehow, it never bothered anyone that man was descended from a lower primate . Somehow, we kept all that separate. Nowadays, we have a governor who encourages high school and middle school kids to report science teachers who dare challenge YEC. Even colleges worry that their donors will get word of their having taught science instead of the preferred mythology and professors walk on eggshells, at least until being granted tenure. PZ Myers has complained that his students are having to take remedial science courses because of this regressive insanity. And he teaches in Minnesota!
And we wonder why the U.S. is losing its position of scientific leadership.
@@petem.3719 Something people dont realize about theories of stuff is that let say the theory of evolution and evolution itself are to separate things evolution is an observation (aka a law or rules, there is no doubt we see evolution everywhere so this makes it a law just like the laws of motion for instance) and the theory of evolution is the best known explanation as to why evolution happens. Same with gravity, gravity is an observation (aka a law/rule) and the theory of relativity is the explanation as to why gravity happens.
People that dont understand science constantly claim that theory is just a guess, but the problem is we dont have a set singular definition of theory, to most people outside the scientific world (and some in) theory just means a hypothesis, or a guess, as to why something happens. But in science it is a term used to label an idea that has been rigorously tested over and over again and has been found to be unfalsifiable by many scientists. When something is a theory it is the highest honors any idea can have.
The theory of evolution is probably one of the most tested and unfalsifiable theory we have to date, there is more evidence for the theory of evolution then most theories we have in science. It is almost mind boggling at how anyone can look at the evidence we have for it and still think its not something that happens.
@@ninjadogs3389 Yeah, I can't even count how many times I've posted what is basically a copy of what you just said there. Another way I've heard it put is if the theory of gravity was disproved tomorrow, things wouldn't start falling up..
There used to be a nice, concise and easy to understand explanation of why evolution is both a theory and a fact published by the NAS online, but I can't seem to find it now. It came in handy when I was more into debating YECs.
Behemoth is thought to actually be an elephant. "Tail like a cedar" isn't talking about the American cedar tree. It would most likely be like the cedar trees in the middle east, which an elephant's tail resembles a lot. Even other creationists can attest to this much. It's absurd to believe that dinosaurs existed less than 6 thousand years ago, though. If this were the case, certainly we'd find signs of humans and these massive creatures in the same sedimentary rocks. But we don't. Ever.
There's a few sentences about how it hangs out in water. Of course, elephants like the water but that could expand the possible inspirations to the Hippopotamus, which is also far more likely than Sauropods. And if you really get down to it, it's a play on words about the Penis of this animal. Swaying the tail and making it hard and so on. Ancient dick jokes are both more fun and more realistic than dinosaurs living 5000 years ago.
I think that it is a little bit of both being that the people who wrote it were probably talking about a hippo and a crocodile doing what all human stories do in hyper exaggerating certain things about them and adding features that don't exist in a story that was probably originally used by those people to talk about why you don't hang around Rivers because these things will kill you.
My grandmother used to make us ice cream when I was a child. She would put two plastic dish pans in the freezer a day or two before to make blocks of ice, and when we were ready to fill the ice cream maker bucket she would heave the heavy blocks with all her strength to the counter and deposit them with a resounding thud. To me they look monumental and indestructable. Next she put the wooden cutting board in the bottom of the sink and would have a go at the massive blocks with a hammer and chisel. It was an astounding vision to see my gentle grandmother so deftly demolish those huge blocks of ice into tiny shards with a controlled strength that made it seem almost effortless, even graceful.
I feel the same sense of astonishment when GG goes after creationism. She takes what the creationists think is a solid coherent argument and with her deft intellect and knowledge effortlessly and utterly destroys it, proving in the process how fragile it really is.
Thank you GG for your videos, and for reminding me of a fond memory.
Thank you for this mental image, I love it!
Creationists don't care what heathen trash has to say.
But where can I get a Kaiju movie of Zig, Behemoth and Leviathan going head to head to head?
Godzilla: Leviathan
Rodan: Ziz
Anguirus: Behemoth
This topic was a part of what set me onto deconverting, among many other reasons. But I remember going to a Bible study once where the topic of dinosaurs came up, and I laughed like, "Ah yea man, hard to believe they make those bones in labs" - I was taught as a child that dinosaur bones were fake & a ploy by Satan. Except many Christians around me moved to correct me, insisting that dinosaurs existed but were wiped out in the flood. And it was just such a surreal experience. I can't even really describe the feeling, it was like the Twilight Zone.
It's just funny how goalposts can move when evidence becomes undeniable. Even happens in scripture, where God goes from living in the clouds and atop the mountains, to being in space, to then being in a realm beyond our ability to perceive ("outside of time" whatever that means) depending on such things. Thank you for your work disputing this rubbish
If Behemoth was based on a real animal, it definitely wasn’t a sauropod. In the King James Version, the description of Behemoth mentions mammalian traits, such as “the naval of his belly” and the “sinews of his stones.” A naval, or belly button, is an exclusively mammalian trait, along with external genitalia. In the English Standard Version, it describes that the tail is “made stiff like a cedar.” This could indicate that the “tail” is a euphemism for the male’s genitalia. Also, many descriptions describe that Behemoth likes to hang out around water, such as hiding under lotus plants and in the reeds of the marsh.
It could mean a literal tail, like an Elephant's.
That sounds like a hippo, even biblical art depicts behemoth as a sort of hippo like creature.
Can't wait for the new thruple of main pokemon legendaries.; Behemoth, Leviathan, and Ziz! Lol but for real, I feel like the person(s) behind Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza were a bit inspired by extended-canon ancient Hebrew texts.
Pretty much, but they just took the base concept and applied it to whatever animals they saw as apex predators of each domain instead of trying to match the source material more accurately and literally, possibly because Ziz was a much later addition and the role of legendary bird that stands above the sea and restrains it was already kind of taken a generation prior with Lugia, and Game Freak is known to take inspiration for new Pokémon from work done on creating previous Pokémon.
@Autobot Starscream that's really cool!
The Behemoth has a navel.
You know what has a navel?
Mammals.
Live googling "hippo tail pooping" -- this is the hard-hitting content that keeps me coming back to your channel! 😆
Absolutely love your work, it's always a fun time 😁
I just like the fact that he (and the rest of the "sauropods are behemoths" crowd) immediately contradicted himself when he said that Diplodicus' bones were like "tubes of brass" only to say next that they were "soft and spongy." Heck, the documentary clip even said that the upper neck was basically styrofoam!
The cognitive dissonance was astounding before, but this was only after a matter of seconds!
I got a notification for Gutsick Gibbon and 'Crime Pays but Botany Doesn't' all at once .... 😁
This. This is really good. I came across this channel randomly and I'm glad that I did. Keep up the good work of bashing YECs!
Awesome content!! I've learned so much from your videos! Continue the great work 👍
How much Death Metal do i need to blast at them so they stop speaking about Behemoth? xD
Never enough. 🤟😎
The consensus among Old Testament scholars say that "tail" is a euphemism for another part of the male anatomy in the description of Behemoth. 🚀💈🍌🌭
Poor 🍆 feels left out
Ancient people sure were obsessed with animal Pingas and bestiality...
In the case of Levithan you will find accounts of exactly two Levithans, one of which has already been killed by G-d, plus Rahab and other sea monsters are sometimes equated with the Levithan and are sometimes separate creatures, plus mentions of the Ziz having eggs- but you're right, it's a primordial monster. The mention of eggs for example is mostly a folklore thing explaining just how big the Ziz is. Sometimes I like to call the Levithan, Behemoth, and Ziz the three great beasts.
First off I want to say thank you to you for all of your awesome content and the great job that you and people like dapper Dino do … I really hope you continue to destroy this dishonest group of people… because of you and Dapper I have gained the knowledge to better represent my views of evolution and the process of life … also because of you guys I can no longer comment on their Facebook page lol some how their videos started popping up in my feed and I started commenting and I think because you guys have given me so much knowledge and I was able to debunk their nonsense I can no longer comment lol it still pops up once in awhile but I only have the like or share opinions lol … so again thank you very much
The bible not only doesn't mention dinosaurs but the ice ages, continental drift, volcano eruptions (except for an angry god), earthquakes (except for an angry god) that all took place just 6,000+ years ago
Lol
Book chapter verse
I love your content. That is all. Thank you!
Hi Lyndsey i am gutsick when hearing the rediculous things they say keep hammering them strange weird people good work
Great work! Keep on doing this, people need to be informed how things really are. Science rules!
Sauropods have mostly air in their necks so they can raise their heads. Creationists also have their heads full of hot air so they can raise theirs.
Creationist actually have incredibly strong neck muscles to hold up their incredibly dense skulls so dense that there's no room for a brain
The "billions of dead things..." line gives me flashbacks to the war
Looking forward to this one.
The theological discussion, with the Hebrew, was even more brilliant than your "normal" brilliance.
Thank you so much.
Dennis from Calgary, Canada.
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LOVE the goofy little cartoon intro!
v happy i found this channel, ty for the content
Gutsick throughout this video
“WHERE ARE MY BONES JOHN???”
How do you not have like millions of subs? What a great channel...
The sabertooth cat skull is a great backdrop.
You've become one of my favorite UA-camrs.
I too have Fuz’s book and agree it’s great. Very interesting explanation of Behemoth you gave explaining how the hippopotamus fits better than a sauropod, but still explaining why it’s a chaos monster. I also recommend Ben Stanhope’s study, in his book, blog and UA-cam channel.
You are always worth rewatching. Witty and articulate calls me back.Thank you for the mockery of yahoos.
Very under appreciated channel.
I love Gutsick Gibbon. ❤ I have recommended her videos in the comments of the videos many other evolution UA-camrs.
When they talk of dinosaur soft tissue, it is never ever accompanied by the words ‘actin’, ‘myosin’, or ‘muscle’. But even if some of those were found, it still wouldn’t necessarily be a problem.
I hope you make a good living off of this. Nobody deserves it more. Great videos. Thanks
-you go gurl!- I luv tales of redcapped absurdity almost as much as I luv dinos.
Thanks for the review of Team Fairytale's video.
I often view these kinds of stories ,at its truest, as ancient memoirs of sorts and at its least true, the Christian version of The Odyssey. If we go with the former, then it tracks that the reason the Behemoth is a singular destructive entity could be that it was (to them) an abnormally large and aggressive specimen of regular animal, like an Elephant. Historically, given what we know about how lack of understanding of the natural world often led to supernatural conclusions, I don't think it's a stretch to assume the Hebrews saw *something* and associated it with their god
The Sauropods actually had bones made of expanded polyurethane? Wow, who could have guessed.
God, that opening music slaps!❤
This is great. Me, seeing the length of the video: oh, ok, I'll just watch for a couple of minutes. At time stamp 55:20: wait, what? No way it's been an hour!
I like watching you google things. In the past you've had tabs set up, prepared for a debunking video. May I recommend broadcasting the preparation process, your own searching and learning?
I’m subscribing for the introductory animation alone.
In the case of the leviathan it can be assumed that the fire breathing refers to the sound crocodiles make when irritated. Crocodiles hiss which sounds like a kettle. So over generations they could have simply overstated the stories of ordinary crocodiles and embellish them more and more until they are more or less unrecognizable as the original animal. A lot of myths are based on ordinary creatures which were simply not retold honestly.
Well ... you have to be careful with literal bible fans because if they're still clinging to the firmament thing, a meteor is just a star that fell down from the firmament and, as such, might not count as "extraterrestrial" - so they might have gotten confused a tad and thought those were two different things and that "extraterrestrial" means that an alien spaceship landed and offed the dinos with disruptor guns.
@Lord Methane - And the bible tells us that the moon is a light which even the ancient Greek knew not to be true. And I'm curious how you get the spherical earth idea ... especially when you work off the Latin translations and the English ones ...
@Lord Methane - Which proves that you are as good an observer as the goat herders in Palestine. The ancient Greek would laugh at you. Hint: A light doesn't have shadows on it. An object that reflects light does. An object that reflects light is not a light.
Even if the Bible says the behemoth is the biggest unit around it doesn't mean the author of Job is referring sauropod. The author of Job had no idea what a sauropod was! They are proving behemoth was a dinosaur by assuming behemoth was a dinosaur.
I am new to this channel, but have been watching as many posts as I can because I have argued to fellow Christians that the Young Earth Creationists and their Global Noachian Flood theories are thoroughly debunked. Your videos are refreshing to watch and your material offers an excellent retort to their apologetic approach. Perhaps a bit too long, but filled with nuggets of fact. I have a daughter that appears to be about your age, and I feel I "adopted" you as a fantastic spokesperson for the truth! Not every person who believes is a fundamentalist akin to Answers In Genesis or the Genesis Project. I read the Hebrew text and do NOT agree with these groups who attempt to import 21st Century concepts into the writings of Ancient Culture. Your "heat Issue" is one of the best arguments. So you have a new fan and I look forward to more wonderful postings. Keep up the good work!
New sub really enjoy your presentation
48:36 it's an hippooo! If they don't think behemoth is an hippo they don't know how scary AF hippos can be. They kill 500 people a year in modern time, imagine in old testament times
I still don't understand why if all animals were on the earth at the same time, all different sorts of animals aren't found along with dinosaurs.
came from skep ticks channel the ken5t hovind reference got you instant sub lo,
There are many facets of YEC I dislike, but the two I find most abhorrent are their indoctrination of children and the fact they can vote. Thank you for taking the time to show the sheer ridiculousness of their claims.
There are many facets of Darwinian fundamentalism that I dislike, but the two I find most abhorrent are their indoctrination of children and the fact they can vote. Thank you for taking the time to show the sheer ridiculousness of their claims.
There. Fixed it. Right back at ya you clueless dupe.
@@lordsong7 this is pathetic….they were making a joke and you took offense. This is hilarious.
Thank you, will you be here all night!?!
The Cedars of Lebanon "shimmer" in the wind...
Young Earth Creationists: Dinosaurs existed alongside humans...
Velociraptors: YECs are yummy.
Tyrannosaurs: Hold my beer.
01:00:46 "god describes..." Assumption. And the Great K'Mammanuhah describes me as a nice guy. It is written here for thee to see. No, I won't give evidence for Her existence. This is an easy game.
Let's say that at least some dinosaurs survived to recent times. So? Nothing in evolutionary biology forbids that by itself, and it's conceivable that there could have been environments that protected some species. If some dinosaurs were around when humans existed, that wouldn't prove biblical creationism, nor would that fact even offer any support to creationism.
You are specifically referring to non-avian dinos, I take it?
That would mean that all the "geologic column" is false. That you can't assume anything "evolved" because it is still alive today and the fantasy of "millions of years" dies again. Jesus loves you! Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be SAVED!
@@MichaelAChristian1 Okay, so you don't understand evolution and believe a silly religion. Don't expect me to share those traits.
@@gregcampwriter Again they claim dinosaurs are extinct for "millions of years". Seeing them run around destroys their claim leaving them with nothing but more absurd claims like the "oort cloud" and "biogenetic law" and so on that are all false.
@@MichaelAChristian1 The non-avian dinosaurs went extinct some sixty-six million years ago, but that was due to an asteroid impact, and nothing in evolutionary science says that every such dinosaur had to die out.
The biogenetic law was a speculation of over a century ago that failed to meet the burden of proof.
The Oort Cloud exists.
I personally do believe in the dragon-dinosaur connection, but not the way AiG and other YEC organizations claim. My belief is that people in the past found dinosaur bones and, not having encountered anything remotely like dinosaurs, created dragon myths to explain the massive bones they found. Since complete skeletons are rarely found, a lot of the ideas of what dragons would look were probably based on one or two massive bones, which accounts for the wide variety of dragon designs across cultures. Not definitive by any means, but seems like a plausible explanation. This YEC bullshite? Yeah, no.
As often as we see fossils unearthed by erosion, its reasonable to assume that throughout human history we have encountered fossils a multitude of times without even digging.
Sounds like what one might expect ancient paleontology to look like considering what happened in the Fossil Wars...
Once you talk about sparking breath and igniting coals, we're off into lalaland.
You are such a refreshing voice in an era where too much focus, energy, and power have gone into the backward movement of the religious right.
51:18 they had hollow bones ...like birds! woah what a coincidence! 😲